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No-confidence debate to start next Monday, with no time-limits

Opposition accuses government of delaying tactics

The committee meeting this afternoon, presided by Speaker Michael Frendo.

The committee meeting this afternoon, presided by Speaker Michael Frendo.

Last updated at 8.05 p.m.

The Opposition motion of no confidence will start being debated in parliament on Monday evening, with no time limit.

The decision was taken by the Leader of the House, Carm Mifsud Bonnici at a meeting of the House Business Committee this evening after the Opposition withdrew a procedural motion where it had proposed that the debate should be held, and concluded, this Thursday morning.

During this evening's meeting the Opposition accused the government of delaying the debate and it insisted that there should be agreement on when the debate should end.

At the beginning of the committee meeting, Dr Mifsud Bonnici, noted that the Opposition had proposed a procedural motion to limit the confidence debate, and the actual motion of no confidence. 

The procedural motion, he said, was shameful as the Opposition wanted to limit the no confidence debate to one sitting, with 90 minutes for each side. This was an arrogant and mistaken attitude by the Opposition.

He recalled that during the last confidence debate, in November, the duration of the debate was agreed beforehand by both sides.

In this case, however, the Opposition had not sought agreement and gone ahead with its motion.

Therefore, the government would go ahead with the debate on the procedural motion on Wednesday, and once that debate was concluded, one would see.

Anglu Farrugia, deputy leader of the opposition, said the problem of instability needed to be settled this week. He recalled that the debate in November only took one sitting and the procedure the Opposition was proposing for the new confidence debate was the same one. However, the Opposition was open to agreement with the government.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said the government had no objection to the confidence debate. However since the Opposition had presented the procedural motion without seeking agreement, it would have to bear the consequences of its actions. 

Dr Farrugia said he was prepared to discuss any extension of debating time. Therefore he was prepared to hold the Opposition's procedural motion in abeyance so that agreement could be reached.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said the Opposition had been unmasked and it was clear that it was only after achieving power.

Mr Mizzi said the procedural motion could be withdrawn and the no confidence debate could go ahead for as long as needed.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said it seemed the Opposition did not know what it was doing. First it wanted to limit the debate, now it wanted to withdraw the procedural motion. 

Joe Mizzi, Opposition whip, said the government wanted to delay the confidence debate. The Opposition, therefore, was withdrawing its procedural motion, on the understanding that the no-confidence debate would be held this week, as the prime minister had said.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said this was not on. One could not have games, with the Opposition first presenting motions and then withdrawing them. Did the Opposition know what it was doing?

Furthermore, the prime minister had not said the confidence debate had to be concluded this week.

Mr Mizzi said this was filibustering (delaying tactics) by the government.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said that if the Opposition withdrew its procedural motion, the no-confidence debate would start on Monday, with no time limit.

Mr Mizzi said there should be agreement on when the debate ended.

The sitting was suspended for 10 minutes to enable both sides to hold consultations.

SITTING RESUMES

When the siting resumed, Dr Farrugia said that once the minister had proposed that the debate would start on Monday, how would it proceed?

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said the debate would start on Monday and it would be held according to the rules of the house, with no limit.

Mr Mizzi said both sides normally agreed in the committee on how long debates would take. The Opposition wished the debate to be held this week. If it was to start on Monday, it could start in the morning and continue in the afternoon, which should be adequate. If need be, it could continue and be concluded with the vote on Tuesday.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said this was an important debate and he was not prepared to limit the number of MPs who wished to speak. The debate would proceed according to the rules of the House, as from Monday.

Dr Farrugia insisted that the debate could be concluded on Tuesday. Even if all the government MPs spoke, the Opposition only needed an hour and the vote could therefore be taken on Tuesday evening (tomorrow week).

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said the debate would be held normally as from Monday at 6.30 p.m. and proceed normally. The government wanted the debate but would not limit anyone.

Dr Farrugia said the government was delaying the start of the debate...

Mr Speaker Michael Frendo said standing order 49 laid down that in confidence debates, MPs could speak for an hour each (and not 40 minutes which is the limit for other motions).

Dr Farrugia consulted standing orders.

Mr Mizzi said the debate could start well before Monday to stop the instability that the country was suffering.

He proposed that the committee should meet again on Wednesday for the government to say how many of its MPs would speak. In that way, the duration of the debate could be planned.

Dr Farrugia said the debate was being delayed unduly. The debate should take as long as the government wanted, but a date for conclusion should be set.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said he had nothing to say. The Opposition had changed its position. The debate would start on Monday (today week), without any limits or restrictions  of the type the Opposition wanted to impose.

Mr Mizzi said Dr Mifsud Bonnici's decision reflected a lack of good will and a delaying tactic which was not in the general election. He insisted that the committee should agree to conclude the debate on Wednesday (Jan 25).

Dr Mifsud Bonnci said he was against any time limit.

This Wednesday the House will convene after the Christmas recess and will discuss the transfer of properties to various societies followed by the debate on the Education (amendment) Bill and the Budget Implementation Bill. The debate on the no confidence motion will start on Monday.

Mr Mizzi said the Opposition disagreed and was calling for another meeting of the House Business Committee.

Dr Mifsud Bonnici said there was nothing else to add and the schedule was clear.

The meeting ended at 8.04 p.m.

 

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Noel Gatt

Jan 17th, 09:55

Nahseb kontra habib. Dr Farrugia kixef il maskra ta GonziPN ghax issa huwa car li GonziPN irid itawwal l incertezza. Prosit Dr Farrugia . Kif ma tigihdx wahda tajba lil CMB!

George Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 09:43

and in the meantime nothing else can be discussed and no laws passed, including important budget bills!!!

Charles J. Buttigieg

Jan 17th, 13:04

I correct myself,it could take 69 hours not 65.

George Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 09:47

Pl wanted to discuss this matter starting from last Saturday taking as much time PN needed. Why this delay till Monday, may I ask? Why not start on Wednesday or at least Thursday!! Come on admit it, the delay is being made so that maybe some miracle would happen and Dr.Debono is made to change his mind!! Nothing more and nothing less!!!!

George Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 08:29

OMG .. I really believe that if you hadn't heard Anglu Farrugia you'd have voted PL!!!

George Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 08:55

This is what you wrote earlier:

J Craig
Yesterday, 08:59
Dr. Gonzi urges to stop attacks.!!! Dr. Gonzi do you think that the Labour party will ever stop the attacks on you??? No this is impossible. They never change. Let's hope they remain in opposition for many many years.

George Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 09:31

also what you wrote:

J Craig
Jan 15th, 19:18
All this guy wants is power. No ideas. Just gimmicks and pre-prepared questions. Does he want to make us believe that these questions were not prepared? He just cares about his image to gain the power he desires. And if he gains power it will be a disaster for this country. I moved here many years ago and I've seen the difference between PN and MLP governments. Thank God I can vote now also...and Joseph Muscat and his PL will never get my vote since I do not vote for gimmicks.

David Farrugia

Jan 16th, 21:25

inti taf taqra?

A Dimech

Jan 16th, 22:03

inti bis-serjeta? Kull ma rriedu VOT. Min ghandu l;maggoranza jirbah - FULL STOP!

Angelo Cassar

Jan 16th, 22:10

Mark, are you serious? Is it possible that you cannot interpret facts?

mark borg

Jan 16th, 22:10

WICC TOST NAZZJONALIST BIL KBIR !

Christopher Scerri

Jan 16th, 23:21

Int bis-serjeta jew qed ticcajta...Arroganza min ihalli pajjiz imdendel ghal skopijiet patiggjani...Il-gvern ghandu jkun hemm biex iservi l-poplu u mhux il-ftit nies tal-klikka!!

Mr l Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 00:15

int bis-serjeta?? dan qed issib arroganti li gvern li probabbli tilef il-maggoranza jintalab jikkonferma li filfatt ghandu maggoranza? tirraguna wkoll!

Noel Mifsud

Jan 17th, 06:30

x arroganza man mela ma tafx x int tghid jew. Kull ma ried il Gvern hadu u ma cedix wahda. Mela jekk din arroganza minn naha tal gvern x inhi dittatura. Komplu ghazqu nispera fil hanin alla li ma idumux tkissru izjed dal pajjiz.

Joe Brincat-LL.D

Jan 16th, 21:32

Not an Erskine May expert, but I know just a little bit about the Standing Orders and the Constitution. The Constitution is the "supreme law" of Malta, then other laws follow, then the Standing Orders and in default custom and interpretation of standing orders. It is only here that Erskine May comes in.

Our Constitution only recognises a vote of no confidence, as legally binding. Cross the floor, or sitting anywhere in the Chamber, even in the strangers' gallery or behind the Speaker, or on his lap, if allowed, does not change the legal situation. As to the political situation, then that is the prudent judgment of a government.

Paul Sammut

Jan 16th, 21:24

Mr.J.C.Borg regarding your comment it shows clearly that during these 25 years time stood still for you
and you learned nothing. After all after 25 years like you said Austin Gatt distroyed the public transport and this is only one example and for sure it was not the PL..

Noel Mifsud

Jan 17th, 06:32

Sur Borg wara 25 sena il PN tghallmu ikunu arroganti u psataz. Mela insejt li int hadt 1. 16 zieda u huma hadu 26 elf euro zieda. U apparti hekk issa sirt naf ukoll li apparti 26 elf hady 6 ohra beneficcji. Igifieri 32,000 euro fis sena. U alla jbierek qataw biss 26 minnhom. Dawn zgur tghasllmu ikunu arroganti u niex bhalek ituhom l apogg.

Paul Giordimaina

Jan 17th, 01:42

Kont tirrispettah qabel din il krizi jew int wiehed minn dawn id double faces li kull ma jridu jinqdew bi Franco

m. borg (slm)

Jan 16th, 23:19

Mexxej kbir ikollu kontrol fuq dawk ta' tahtu u mhux qed nghid ghal Franco biss, imma ghal dawk il-ministri li b'ghemilhom misshom irrezzenjaw. Imma gonzi tant hu kbir u b'par idejn sodi li hallihom fejn kienu ghaliex kienu jghamlulu wahda bhal ta' Franco.

Paul Giordimaina

Jan 17th, 02:57

Please Mr Brincat dont mention democracy expecialy you who made a mokery out of democracy when you where in power.

J Busuttil

Jan 16th, 21:31

Were you around f'zmien Sant v Mintoff it took Sant 6 months to decide. You call today's situation shameful ?

George Azzopardi

Jan 17th, 09:15

@J Busuttil .. Big difference is that Mr.Mintoff at the time was mentioning projects and other measures made by A.Sant. Dr.Debono today is simply saying that Dr.Gonzi should resign and is stating clearly that he no longer will vote for GonziPN.

Moreover you're mentioning 6months during A.Sant back in 1998. We have been seeing a series of 3½ years of such mishaps during this legislation.

Clifford Grech

Jan 16th, 20:33

politics = bla bla bla

etc etc

J Busuttil

Jan 16th, 20:43

@ Thomas

Does not seem so from yesterdays polls compared to other polls issued a couple of months ago.

Mariano Camilleri

Jan 16th, 20:26

mr willy... the dictators here are the opposition...once more they want to limit everyones right to talk....same old labour

R. Gauci

Jan 16th, 20:40

Talk about what Mariana?? About Dr. Debono's attitude that day. Or about how he slept the previous night?

Willie Grech

Jan 16th, 20:50

@Mariano Camilleri.

I think you have a problem with reading the article. "The Opposition, therefore, was withdrawing its procedural motion," This was further confirmed by Dr Carm Mifsud Bonnici when he said, "Dr Mifsud Bonnici said he had nothing to say. The Opposition had changed its position."

Read carefully and you will see who is the dictator!!

Furthermore, please note that my name is spelt WILLIE and not WILLY. You must have been thinking something else when you wrote my name!

c. saliba

Jan 16th, 20:26

tghid forsi biex jilhaq jaqla l-iskalda?

mario gellel

Jan 16th, 20:47

OPPS, INRID NIKOREGI LILI NNIFSI. GHAX MA MARX , BAGHTUHOMNA HUMA>>> 70 KLANDESTIN.

Victor Baldacchino

Jan 16th, 20:21

Vera ma tafx xi ifisser Dictator. Kieku tikteb u tesprimi ruhek. Its a Shame tli tikteb hekk.

Mariano Camilleri

Jan 16th, 20:29

i agree victor...they must have forgot when between 1996 - 98 people writing in blogs were loosing jobs for talking against the goverment. and now they want to limit the right to talk in parliament by serving a motion to limit of one to talk

Joseph Camilleri

Jan 16th, 20:44

looks like 'dictator' is the latest in-word...

let's all pack up and go to North Korea instead shall we?

R. Schembri

Jan 16th, 20:53

@ Mariano Camilleri, although I am young of age, I have a deep interest in the Maltese political history and ethics and I have read as many books as possible from all view points, both neutral and partisan. Just like you mentioned the 1996-1998 period (although a half-truth), the PN have similar instances in their past as well. Do yourself a favour and instead of pointing out mistakes which both parties have done repeatedly in the past, focus on what is happening now. The PL is not limiting the right to talk in parliament, but simply pointing out that yes it is a delay tactic especially when one keeps in mind that the PM said that answers will be given this Thursday. Apart from that, a limitless discussion is folly... the situation should be solved as fast as possible and a discussion deadline would ensure it.

J Busuttil

Jan 16th, 20:42


@ j.brincat

Yes wait and see how unemployment will be shooting up under a Labour Goverment even Labour supporters say it.

Maria Agius

Jan 16th, 20:11

WELL- SAID !!!!!

R. Gauci

Jan 16th, 19:56

Meta ma konniex mghaggla fl-ahhar votazzjoni u bambaltuhulna .... mhux nies li tista tafdakhom Guz

Neil Dent

Jan 16th, 23:07

MARIO! WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TWO TIMES! TRY SOME CAMOMILLE TEA MABYE, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER! AND SWITch off your caps lock while it's brewing why don't you?

Mariano Camilleri

Jan 16th, 20:34

oghqodu emm stenna sat tnejn.

Joe Calleja

Jan 16th, 20:01

Jimporta ma tkomplux ddahhku!! Ara min irid jitkellem dwar id-demokrazija wkoll!!!!!

D. Xerri

Jan 16th, 20:05

X`jimporta li Malta se tkun ghamlet gimghatejn fl-incertezza u l-instabilita - L-Importanti li L-Prim Ministru jibqa jwebbes rasu halli tghaddi tieghu akkost ta kollox u ta` kulhadd !

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