PN, PL raise €803,880 in televised marathons
(Amended) - The main political parties raised a total of €803,880 in their televised fund-raising marathons yesterday. The PN raised €467,880 while the PL raised a further €336,000.
Last year, the PN and the PL raised a total of €672,037. The Nationalist Party had raised €436,135 while a further €235,902 were raised by the Labour Party, which, for the first time, had also grouped its collections into one.
In the same events in 2009, the PN raised €410,525 and the PL €210,511.
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Julie Russell
Dec 15th 2011, 16:39
Why don't they use their own money instead of this marathon. I would rather give it to someone who really needs it, if i had the money they make. Anyway it's a free country, let them go at it. They both lost my vote anyway.
Ms.D. Galea
Dec 15th 2011, 14:25
Almost a million euros in donations to the main political parties? And this is when, according to some quarters, people are practically dying of starvation in the streets, are unable to afford to celebrate Christmas and cannot afford to pay the basic utility bills
John Borg
Dec 14th 2011, 16:15
In a country which, according to Joseph Muscat and his opposition, everybody is starving and can't afford to pay his electricity bills, people are giving more to political parties, including more to Labour. So Joseph is getting it wrong again.... we do not have the problems that he is saying we have, as otherwise people would keep their hard earned cash not give it to parties!
Ryan Scicluna
Dec 14th 2011, 18:18
apperantly those stupid enough to give their hard earned cash to political parties are a huge majority in this country.
George Azzopardi
Dec 15th 2011, 07:37
@John Borg ... maybe you're getting it wrong. This is a clear message that PL majority is on the increase whilst that of PN is stalled. This is a clear message that change is wanted even more. Come on almost 25 years in government even if I were on PN side I would want the change! The country needs this change and Joseph is proving that his party is ready for it.
Mr Tim Ripard
Dec 15th 2011, 12:03
@ George Azzopardi
The PN has been in government for 13 years, not 25. PL apologists keep repeating this falsehood that the PN has been in power for almost 25 years. The people foolishly voted for Labour in 1996 and realised what a mistake they had made in 1998 after having got the opportunity to sample a 'new' Labour Party with a 'new' leader. The same thing will happen in 2013 when the PL will win the election and, by 2018, when, after all the vendikazzjonijiet have taken place, investment has dried up and taxes have increased to make good for inefficiency, the people will realise that voting for the 'new' PL (with AST, Karmenu, Debono Grech, Joe Grima and co) was, once again, a mistake.
Alfred Falzon
Dec 14th 2011, 15:37
Donations, donations galore, now also flowing to our two main parties both vying for power, if necessary power absolute!
No more moaning and groaning on the part of the PL that the people are vertiginously close to the poverty line, but clapping and giggles all around!
As for the PN, well, well...the proof of the pudding is in the eating for now we have the evidence that puts Labour in a tight corner!
Is Malta all that poor, on the verge of bankruptc, after all?... some may want to opine!
Those who have now invested in their vested interests, present and future, are all smiles and eager to launch the final assault for a power grab in the name of the people!
That's what politics is, after all...
Tax and VAT evasion by way of so-called "donations"!
And we, ordinary mortals, wev'e never had it so good, yes indeed!
A pleasure to behold such partisan solidarity with parties going capitalist in the name of the people who just sit and stare at such a shining example of accumulation of wealth!
Whither Malta?
Stefan Zammit
Dec 14th 2011, 15:24
Fidil hu dak li ta mqar centezmu.
F. Azzopardi
Dec 14th 2011, 18:58
Amen.
F. Pisani
Dec 14th 2011, 14:01
if their is no money in hand how did this amount be collected ehhhh? super one is always right ehhhh?
Deo Catania
Dec 15th 2011, 14:44
Your fear is showing Fsadni, you'll soon loose power.
C Vella
Dec 14th 2011, 14:01
Local councils... i woudnt give money to fund them, as if! If i had to give out my money, i would do the maintenance on a road they meant to have not done in the past 20years!!! not give it to them!!
C Vella
Dec 14th 2011, 13:56
This is so shameful! So Ridicolous!.... Then you hear people complaining about the budget.. Whoever donated money is sick!!!! This figure is insane really !!!! I pay high taxes, i pay overcharged fuel, vat on every little thing and i will only give my money to my children to invest and donate only to people in need, no way will i give a penny to this contribution. These marathons should stop for our five national holiday has ended up fund raising for political parties. The President should wake up and STOP this !!!
Samuel Camilleri
Dec 15th 2011, 14:52
and how would the PN **** us again and again without money?
James Tyrrell
Dec 14th 2011, 13:29
What is obvious from these figures is that contributions to the PN have increased very little in the past two years in fact by 14%, whilst contributions to the PL have increased by 60%. Looks like the people are swinging towards the Labour party and are sick of being screwed by the Nationalists.
J. J. Borg
Dec 14th 2011, 14:46
Amazingly informed for one living in N. Ireland. Are the Nationalists screwing over there as well?
Stephen Sultana
Dec 14th 2011, 15:01
For your sake I hope that you are Maltese and not some expat looking around for something to relieve your boredom.
F. Pisani
Dec 14th 2011, 15:11
well it is about time after 25 year? if PN didn"t gave more money to the people than those figure would have never showed up.
Samuel Camilleri
Dec 15th 2011, 14:49
And if it were not for our GREAT Mr .Zaren Vassallo the figures for the PN would be lower
Pat Hobson
Dec 14th 2011, 13:19
I can see from the comments below, where the PN apologists are concerned, that the PL managed to raise this sum of money, had a demoralising effect on them. I bet, in their worst dreams, they never thought, that the PL would raise such a sum! After all the demonising of the PL, and still the PL managed to raise such an excellent sum! One thing for certain. It means, that the people's trust in the PL is growing fast.
Stephen Sultana
Dec 14th 2011, 14:57
In my worst dreams I am watching these nightmarishly cheesy shows and if you know what's good for your health you will stay well clear of this stuff. I personally couldn't give a toss if the PL raises a million Euros and the PN raises 20 cents, or vice versa.
Mario Sammut
Dec 14th 2011, 13:03
My oh My !!!!! The PL , whoever beleives them , God bless them , raise nearly half a million Euros from the poor families who do not have enough money to buy food with . Not enough money to pay for the fuel and gas and electric bills . No money to buy medicines with and so on and so forth . As a matter of fact I really look forward to watching Super One News every day so that I get my usual half an hour of laughter , listenening to their usual mantra of how bad this country of ours is doing . Then , lo and behold , their long sufferring customers find all this money hidden under the mattresses to help their long sufferring party so that maybe , maybe , they would win that beloved election and that blessed hot seat , which brings with it that power .
Charles Mangion
Dec 14th 2011, 12:03
Who says the Maltese are poor they contribute over 1.5million during the festive season plus coffee mornings dinners drinking and smoking hollidays abroad weekends in lokal hotels trips to gozo if i carry on i want finish C.Mangion
Giovann Demartino
Dec 14th 2011, 11:52
Morru go xi supermarket halli tarawh il-faqar, Idhlu sal-Belt, morru sa tas-*Sliema, morru sal-Hamrun, ejjew sal-Mosta....M'hawx sinjuri daqsna fi-dinja kollha!
W Cassar
Dec 14th 2011, 13:18
Wow what a sweeping statement!
Maybe you need to stop and think exactly where that money is coming from? Many Maltese live well beyond their means, just to show off.
Giovann Demartino
Dec 14th 2011, 18:01
"The Maltse live beyond their means" And I thought people no longer believed in miracles!
E Gatt
Dec 14th 2011, 11:51
The €500 a week to the 8-strong cabinet is dragged into every Labour-leaning comment, and boring the rest of us. The cabinet’s increase in pay costs the Maltese taxpayer around €200,000 a year in total, less the savings from having a smaller team (only 8 ministers compared to, I believe, 12 before). The way the increase was handled was wrong, however the amount is almost insignificant compared to the government’s overall budget. Reading some comments, it seems that some people actually believe that the money collected by PN yesterday was going to be given to the ministers (and I imagine in their minds the PL collection will go to the shadow cabinet).
I agree with the parties being funded by the general public through campaigns like those organised yesterday by both main parties. Everyone was free to give.
What I disagree with, are proposals like the ones made by Joseph Muscat, in which Maltese taxpayers are forced to fork out €7.2 million every legislature to fund political parties. The cabinet’s pay increase is only a fraction of Labour’s failed proposal.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090215/local/labour-makes-euro-7-2-million-state-funding-proposal
G. Cachia
Dec 14th 2011, 10:53
In-nies li kkontribwew ghal din il-gabra huma l-istess nies li se jikkontribwixxu ghall-Community Chest Fund ftit tal-jiem ohra miz-zewg nahat.
Iz-zieda fis-salarji li qed tissemma hija rifflessjoni ghax-xoghol siewi li qed jaghmlu dawk li huma responsabbli ghaliex kieku mhux ghax-xoghol immorru imma nipprotestaw fit-toroq bhal pajjizi ohra.
J'Alla nibqghu sejrin hekk anke jekk tinbidel it-tmexxija tal-pajjiz. U ghalhekk wiehed ghandu joghqod attent fil-kritika tieghu ghax bhal ma ikkummentaw hafna. Sinjuri mahniex imma fqar l-anqas.
Sfortunament uhud mill-fqar isibhom fil-pjazza tar-rahal isekksku fuq kull min jghaddi.
Chris Borg
Dec 14th 2011, 10:03
umbad fuq is super one jajdu li mawx flus fl-idejn...mis sema waqaw dawk il 210,000...bhal ma ha jaqaw mis sema il flus biex inhallsu il kontijiet tad dawl u l ilma, u l penzjonijiet gholjin meta jitilaw il lejber
John Zammit
Dec 14th 2011, 11:46
I was one of those that helped the PL in in the door to door collection and I can swore that I saw families wanting to contribute and seeing their positions I refused the donation they were going to give
Kenneth Muscat
Dec 14th 2011, 10:01
Well who gave money ,must earn it well .But if I can give money I give it to the poor not for people who have an extra 500 euro a week.
Michael Vella
Dec 14th 2011, 09:57
Recession??
Mark. Galea
Dec 14th 2011, 09:57
ONE NEWS - Il-poplu qed juri bic-car li lest li jhallas halli jsir fqir, biex inehhi dan il-gvern u meta jkun fil-gvern il-PL ma jkun hemm gbir aktar ghax ma jibqa xejn
Karl Consiglio
Dec 14th 2011, 09:54
Look the Nationalists raised more...
Pat Hobson
Dec 14th 2011, 12:31
The PN always raised more. But unlike the PL, the donations from the many. The PN gets its donations from the few. Il-PL minn dejjem qal "IL-FTIT MINGHAND IL-HAFNA!" The PN can't say that, that's for sure!
Victor Laiviera
Dec 14th 2011, 09:46
Just a few points to reflect on before commenting:
1) Democracy, with all its defects, is still by far the best system of governance man has come up with;
2) Parliamentary democracy needs parties to function properly;
3) Parties need funds to function;
4) In the absence of state funding for parties, it is far better that they obtain those funds from public campaigns than from hidden donations which have to be paid paid x100.
W Cassar
Dec 14th 2011, 09:43
I made my contribution ... it was called tax.
Victor Laiviera
Dec 14th 2011, 09:48
Your taxes go towards the running of the State not the Party. I hope you appreciate the difference.
W Cassar
Dec 14th 2011, 09:59
Yes I know ...so there's no money left! Get it?
C Vella
Dec 14th 2011, 14:04
lol... and what do they do for us! Local councils are absolutely there for nothing. The taxes i pay are mooooree than enough.... Any extra goes to my family and those in need. Vera pajjiz tal mickey mouse!!!
Pat Hobson
Dec 14th 2011, 09:38
One thing is for certain. The PL started the marathon in the early 90's and then the PN followed suit. As usual, the PL starts something and then the PN follows!
John Scerri
Dec 14th 2011, 11:01
news for me ...never knew this .....like the local councils you mean and the EU membership???
Pat Hobson
Dec 14th 2011, 12:29
@John Scerri. You're wrong on both counts. It was the MLP in the 70's who started the way to the EU. Then it was called the EEC. On the local councils, again, you're not well informed. It was the MLP in the late 70's that the idea of a local council was proposed. Then it was called Regional Councils. Check before you blurt out!
Paul Camilleri
Dec 14th 2011, 12:49
you know what the PN did not follow.....getting money from Ghaddafi
Pat Hobson
Dec 14th 2011, 13:15
@Paul Camilleri. No, it did worse. The PN betrayed its country when Mintoff quarrelled with Gaddafi over the continental shelf, and the PN went scurrying to Gaddafi to do some licking!
Pat Hobson
Dec 14th 2011, 14:40
@Paul Camilleri. The PN did something worse, on the verge of treason. When Mintoff had a quarrel with Gaddafi about the continental shelf and oil exploration, Gaddafi sent a gunboat to stop the drilling. Do you know what the PN did? They scurried to Gaddafi to cooperate with him, not in defense of our country. The same happened in 1972 when Mintoff was negotiating for a better Treaty with Great Britain. The PN sided with the British!
John Debono
Dec 14th 2011, 09:34
kemm aw guh u kulhad ijat jaqa bicca bicca sur joseph;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;KELLEK RAGUN.............TAHSEB
Daniel Diacono
Dec 14th 2011, 09:51
x'ghandu xjaqsam li qeighed tghid ... jekk tahdem l-average kemm tat kull persuna hi ta kwazi 2euros kull persuna... sejjer hazin kemm sejjer hazin average ta 2euros p.p. zgur mhux xi ammont fenomenali
John Debono
Dec 14th 2011, 09:31
kemm aw guh u kulhad ijat jaqa bicca bicca sur joseph;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;KELLEK RAGUN.............TAHSEB
Lawrence Fenech
Dec 14th 2011, 09:28
Getting closer every day.
D. A . Agius
Dec 14th 2011, 09:28
Ahdem Gahan, ahleb Guz (u Wenz!)
Stanley Colombo
Dec 14th 2011, 09:19
If I'm not mistaken there are 63 members of parliament. If we take €500 each per week, for 1 year that equates to 500 x 63 x 52 = €1,638,000 - every year! Need I say more?
Ben Agius
Dec 14th 2011, 09:49
The increase was bad enough - especially the way it was done- however not all members of parliament got it- only Ministers. Is that right?
Mr David Ganado
Dec 14th 2011, 10:45
Wrong! All Members of parliament except ministers were already getting it. Now also the ministers are getting it.
Mark. Galea
Dec 14th 2011, 09:13
Min jaf kemm nies fqar ghamlu sagrificcju kbir biex jaghtu donazzjoni lill-PL ... nahseb li l-Milied li gej lanqas pizza ma jkun jistghu jixtru bil-faqar kbir li hawn ...
Tad-dahq hux, nghajtu bil-faqar u mbaghad zewg partiti jigbru 800,000 euro ...
Deo Catania
Dec 14th 2011, 09:49
Kompli nharaq Mark, dan ghadu m'hu xejn.
Mark. Galea
Dec 14th 2011, 11:12
Tinkwetax wisq Deo,
Iktar u iktar jekk it-tkaxkira tkun kbira bhal ta l-ahhar elezzjoni ... (15000 vot rebha ghall-PL)
F. Pisani
Dec 14th 2011, 09:09
would the PL Raise that amount if in the country there wasn't so much money? thinks twise.
Luke Borg
Dec 14th 2011, 09:05
ONE News - Ghalkemm f'pajjizna m'hawnx flus fl'idejn xorta ngabret somma record sabiex il partit jahdem biex ikun jista jmexxi dan il pajjiz kif jixraq.
NET News - Somma sabiha ngabret sabiex nkompli l-hidma taghna fil-gvern. Dan juri kemm pajjizna miexi fid direzzjoni tajba u ghalkemm kulhadd ikollu hafna spejjez fix xahar ta Dicembru, xorta wahda hawn il-flus fl-idejn. Dan dejjem taht gvern Nazzjonalista.
F. Azzopardi
Dec 14th 2011, 09:02
Trid tkun vera bla qalb biex taghmel gabra ghall partiti fi zmien il milied meta hawn ragunijiet ferm akbar ghalxiex wiehed jaghmel gabra!
Lawrence Fenech
Dec 14th 2011, 09:32
@Azzopardi
Inti taf b'xi assocjazzjoni li ma gabriedx flus meta giet fil-bzonn li qed jghamel il-president ghal community chest fund mhux record iehor ghal minn ghandu bzonn.
F'din il-hajja kollox irid ikun tiskanntax.
F. Azzopardi
Dec 14th 2011, 10:54
Le ta tinkwieta xejn ghax go dal-pajjiz xejn m'ghadu jiskantani. Jien m'ghandi xejn fuq il-kuxjenza ghax donazzjoni naghtiha lill min vera ghandu bzonn!
Reinhard Azzopardi
Dec 14th 2011, 08:41
Kemm hawn guh! Kemm hawn ghaks!
Ben Agius
Dec 14th 2011, 09:51
guh u ghaks m'hemmx hafna! Pero tbatija f'certi familji hemm u ghal hafna ragunijiet. pero dawn ic-cifri haga wahda jikkonfermaw li hemm hafna - injoranza u korruzzjoni.
Reinhard Azzopardi
Dec 14th 2011, 12:53
Hekk hu Ben. Jien minflok tajt lil partit, xtrajt rigal zejjed lin-neputijiet ghal Milied. Dawk zgur japprezzawh aktar.
Joseph Francis
Dec 14th 2011, 08:28
Say it again.....M'hawnx flus fil-pajjiz!!!!!!
Joe Briffa I agree with you. A big pity I was born and raised under these diabolical parties. I moaned and objected to the 500Euros........and I did not give 1euro cent to them.
To the maltese people who gave them money........AHDEM GAHAN
Anthony Caruana
Dec 14th 2011, 08:12
Well Joe you right and will they ever learn
Mr R Rizzo
Dec 14th 2011, 08:05
kemm hija isbah li tal-labour l-iktar nies li dejjem jeqirdu li m'hawnx flus fl-idejn u li hawn hafna faqar gabru mat-800,000 euro... tal-ghageb il-gidba li qed jghixu fiha.... li vera hawn dan il-faqar kollu, Joseph Muscat kien jghidilhom huti fidili laboristi dis-sena mhux ha nigbru ghax ma fadalx flus fil-but tal-poplu.
Alexander Brincat
Dec 14th 2011, 09:09
Jien iktar naraha bhala fiducja fil-partit laburista. Zgur li ma kienux partitarji nazzjonalisti li taw dawk il-flus lil PL. Taghti minn dak li ghandek Sur Rizzo, mhux minn dak li mhux tieghek. U ifhimni. Il-gurnata t-tajba.
Deo Catania
Dec 14th 2011, 09:46
Rizzo, tista tghidilna fejn qrajtha li l-PL gabar € 800,000?
Joe Mallia
Dec 14th 2011, 08:02
We are sponsoring BIG MONSTERS at our own expense!
Clifton Aquilina
Dec 14th 2011, 08:36
I so agree with you we will never learn ....
joe briffa
Dec 14th 2011, 07:48
this is the owrst news I can ever hear,first we moan and object over the 500 euros raise the MPs got,and then we fund them ourselves,VERU PAJJIZ TAL-MICKEY MOUSE....Pity I was born here...big pity
Alfred Falzon
Dec 14th 2011, 08:10
Impressive contributions that indicate an investment for the future by some born with a silver teaspoon and further headaches and moans for the ordinary citizens!
Any tax or VAT paid by these so-called law-abiding parties?!