Updated: Prime Minister seeks vote of confidence - Debono, JPO will vote in favour
Updated Saturday morning - adds comment by Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando
Parliament is to debate a confidence motion in the government on Tuesday.
Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi said that he had presented the motion to the Speaker after the vote in Parliament where a no confidence motion in Transport Minister Austin Gatt was defeated after the Speaker's casting vote.
Dr Gatt said the country needed stability and in such troubled times.
The government, he said, would see the bus service reform through, but it also needed to focus on the economic issues in the context of the economic troubles in Europe.
When asked about the vote of confidence, Franco Debono, the Nationalist MP who abstained in the no-confidence motion in Dr Gatt, said this was something which he himself had proposed in the PN executive, and he would vote in favour of the government.
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando wrote on his facebook page that he would back the government.
AUSTIN GATT SATISFIED
In a brief comment after his no-confidence vote, Transport Minister Austin Gatt said he was satisfied with the outcome.
PM SHOULD DO WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY - MUSCAT
Opposition leader Joseph Muscat said the Prime Minister should reflect on the vote and do what he thinks is right not for his party but for the country.
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joseph saliba
Mar 29th, 13:33
Lawrence qajmu t-terremot. Malli tkellem tregħdu. Mhux bħal griedel imma bħat-tiġieġ, bil-mijiet, farfru rixhom u bdew iqaqu. Anke Dr.E. Bezzina li kemm il-darba rajnieh ma l-akbar kummidjant li qatt ħareg għal elezzjoni f'Malta libes it-toga biex jippontifika bħal Joe Brincat. Kieku KMB kien jgħid tgħatux kas tagħħom għax dawn ma jirrapreżentaw lil ħadd; bħali.
Jo Borg
Nov 6th 2011, 20:18
Calling for a vote of confidence in Parliament is Gonzi's pathetic attempt to hide the internal divisions in his party. Everybody knows the outcome of the vote. And it's pretty obvious what the interpretation of the vote will be from the PN side. Gonzi will come out beaming in front of the cameras and declare victory over those who claimed that his government is in shambles. 'You see', he will say proudly, ' When it comes to the crunch we are a team, as united as ever'. It's like the captain of the Titanic painting over the cracks after hitting the iceberg.
Jeffrey Borg
Nov 6th 2011, 19:14
Why are so many contributors writing about the need of having an election?
Have we become insane? Would Dr Debono push the PM to call for early elections on some other ‘pending’ issue which would free some of his clients who are in prison serving time on drug related charges.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Nov 6th 2011, 18:35
On some Constitutional matters. I think we are all proud of our Constitution. Some even make oath that they will uphold it.
1. I have already written that a government seeks a vote of confidence after being appointed by the President, after an election. The new government presents its programme, and seeks a vote of confidence. Once that is positive, the government is installed. Its life comes to an end either by the lapse of the prescribed time, by a vote of no-confidence, or by resignation of that government.
2. The government assumes collective responsibility. What one minister does, not being an offence imputable solely to him, is a matter for the Cabinet to shoulder responsibility. If the Prime Minister is not satisfied with the performance of a Minister, he may substitute him without notice. And what should be noted here is that a new Minister does not need a vote of confidence in Parliament.
3. It has long been my opinion that Parliament cannot, according to the Constitution, discuss and vote on a motion of no confidence in a single Minister. The error has been creeping in over a period of time. But it is wrong. What Parliament can discuss is a motion of CENSURE (sorry for the caps). If the motion is approved, then it is up to the individual minister to draw his conclusions or for the Prime Minister to advise the President to substitute him. This would be out of political correctness, but there is no mandatory legal duty to substitute that minister.
4. The Prime Minister assumed collective responsibility for the public transport evident problems. Once that motion was defeated with the vote of the Speaker ( who is a Member of the House), there is no room for another "confidence vote", unless the government is proposing a departure to its programme, or there is an issue which, unless settled, makes the government's position untenable.
5. The political responsibility of a Minister for what happens within his portfolio is for political correctness. But there is no legal duty to resign. ( Examine the recent resignation from the UK government). In other countries a minister may be brought down by the press, rather than by a debate in Parliament. It is an unwritten code of ethics.
6. A new motion of confidence is inane. It is also contradictory. A member, who for reasons of his own does not vote against a motion (wrongly termed "on no confidence", when it was really a "vote of censure), cannot turn up to vote in his favour, when that same minister appears as part of the "team".
7. It is not correct to take precedents from other countries which do no have the same Constitution as we have. The closest is the British unwritten Constitution. On ethical and personal grounds of responsibility, we follow English political practice. But that is not the law.
Jeffrey Borg
Nov 6th 2011, 19:48
Thanks Dr Brincat for your enlightening explanation. I think that our Prime Minister , who was also a speaker of the house for many years , wants to remove any doubts ,playing with words or 'lawyer talk’. He wants to remove any doubts about the stability of his government in these turbulent times. I won’t be surprised that he’s doing all this for the credit rating agencies.
Tyrone Camilleri
Nov 6th 2011, 15:54
Why hold a vote of confidence when everybody already knows that the speaker will come to the PM's rescue if one of the PN's members should abstain? And let's be frank now, who is ever going to bring down a PN government?? The poor soul would be shamed and damned for the rest of his life...no member of the PN is willing to go that far for his country despite the fact that the government's enormous failures are plain for the most basic of minds to comprehend. Its obvious that most people like Austin Gatt are willing to do anything to hold on to their seat in spite of the incredible incompetence and endless arrogance shown in the past years. Its a shame that in the serious European countries Minsters resign because they are accused of plagiarism in their dissertation and in Malta a Minister who has failed his country disastrously at every turn is saved by the speaker in a vote of no confidence!... who by the way had been rumoured to have dabbled in the bus ticket machines!
mark borg
Nov 6th 2011, 18:18
The most ironic part in all this thing is, should the vote in parlament be anonymous, I am pretty sure that more than half of his ministers would vote against him ...but of course knowing he is playing in safe waters makes him opt for this time wasting antic.
Roy Schembri
Nov 6th 2011, 14:10
The sell-by date of this Government (if it can be called that) has gone. They are now berift of any ideas and indeed any respect. Dr Gonzi has failed to show any leadership qualities. Long before the Opposition woke up to the public transport debacle he ought to have sacked Dr Gatt and and Delia for gross incompetence. Gonzi now says he is responsible, that being so how can we trust him to run the country if he can't even run a village bus service !
He wastes time and money seeking confidence votes - he and his whips would be better employed grasping the public transport nettle - it won't disappear! First dismissing Gatt then next fining Arriva (fines are the only language they understand), only then will he muster respect and confidence from the public.
R. Gauci
Nov 6th 2011, 11:53
Il;-vote of confidence lill-Poplu trid titolbu f'elezzjoni mhux lill-Kabinett! Ovvja li GIMMICK u hela ta` hin tal-Parlament.
R. Lewis
Nov 5th 2011, 18:53
Dr Gonzi you act like this because you have a BMW 7 Series always waiting for you at the door step, partly financed from my money, and you don't have to bother about parking, petrol, license, insurance and maintenance. The problem is with those people who have to wait for hours waiting in the sun and in the rain and arriving late for work or students missing their lectures. These are all TEATRINI and waste of public funds.
John Mifsud
Nov 5th 2011, 18:18
Dr Franco Debono has already stated before yesterday's vote in Parliament that he will vote with the government if the Prime Minister seeks a vote of confidence. Therefore next Tuesday's confidence motion is a waste of Parliament's time and a charade.
Dr Austin Gatt saved face only by the Speaker's vote, as Dr Franco Debono stuck to his 'guns', and thus the only honourable way out was for Dr Gatt to let go of his ministerial post. This is what any other Minister in any European country would have done.
I wish to congratulate Dr Franco Debono for he was the only one with enough guts to side with the people.
Unfortunately, I honestly think that Dr Denono's political career as a part of the PN will sink into oblivion after the next general election.
The same can be said for JPO and Mr Mugliette.
Many Maltese voters have yet to think with their own heads when voting in any election. We are slowly learning, but we are still far behind of our counterparts in Europe.
G Mangion
Nov 5th 2011, 17:44
@ helen debono:
I can understand your disappointment, and cry gimmick.
rest assured that the Prime Minister has shown what a real politician should be, by calling a confidence vote
next Tuesday !
G.Mangion.
Philip Hili
Nov 5th 2011, 17:42
Dottor jew Mr. Luciano Busuttil,
Gralek bhali!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ara dan hu l-kumment tieghek:-
"Mr Luciano Busuttil
Today, 08:14
Tghallek ikteb bil-Malti int qabel habib!"
Tista' tghidli xi tfisser il-kelma "Tghallek"???
Allura mhux ahjar titghallem tikteb inti wkoll?????
simon borg
Nov 5th 2011, 17:40
The PM shall seek a vote of confidence. Therefore he is feeling he has it no more. Now, in such sensitive and troubled times, a government with a majority of 1 seat can never achieve stability. this is only so because week in, week out, this government has been more busy trying to stand on its own two feet than to apply its policies.
Although the PM is right in seeking to obtain a vote of confidence, he should make a move in the National interest and go further.
The PM must move to ensure that, during these sensitive times, our country has a government with the required majority to ensure stability. Be it Nationalist or Labour.
Therefore, it is high time the PM does what needs to be done and call an election. During Alfred Sant's tenure as PM he was faced with an identical situation. Dr Sant took a bold move, cost him dearly, but allowed the people to give the country the required stability. And they did. And the country returned to a stable situation.
At this point in time only the people can give and guarantee the required stability. Parliament does not have this option any more.
helen debono
Nov 5th 2011, 17:11
It is a gimmick that Prime Minister seeks vote of confidence in parlament. If he truely means that, he should go for election and sure he gets what he is looking for.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Nov 5th 2011, 16:20
The motion presented by the PL against Austin Gatt was defeated and Minister Gatt won the day.
The PL adherents were all out in supporting Franco Debono to do what they have been dreaming and hoping for such a long time, but to no avail.
One could see the gloomy face of the Leader of the Opposition on his way out from Parliament.
Who can blame him?
All those dreams, the impossible dreams, all went up in smoke.
All he has to do is just wait for 2013, for him to have a go at winning the next elections.
However, this is not guaranteed as a foregone conclusion, as more time passes, the electorate is seeing the “real” qualities of Joseph Muscat and these do not forebode well; e.g. the Sabrina Agius E-Mails and the No Policies Party!
The longer Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi holds on to power, the more the chances DIMINISH for Joseph Muscat’s of ever winning the next elections!
No wonder the PL and JM want to topple the PN Government as soon as possible, because time is not on their side.
JC.
Peter Pace O'Shea
Nov 5th 2011, 16:00
I think the best way to give the country a political boost is to have someone with the ability to select the best people from PN and the best from PL and form a third party. We are in a sorry situation where the present party in government expired many years ago, the alternativ PL has not yet shed some people who have expired, so who do you vote for? We are in a dictatorship democracy in limbo!
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 16:51
Try to look beyond the tip of your nose.
The question was only superficially about the buses. In reality, it was about ministerial accountability and good governance.
Which are more important than any crises.
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 17:22
My comment was meant for Joseph Galea
Joseph Galea
Nov 5th 2011, 15:02
Some people seem to be living in Wonderland.
Let Parliament focus on important things rather than go on and on and on 'ad nauseam' about buses!
Let the people responsible get on with fixing what's already been acknowledged to be wrong and let the country's representatives move on to serious issues. A vote of confidence in the Government about the buses is absurd.
kevin sammut
Nov 5th 2011, 14:59
sejjah elezzjoni jekk trid vot ta fiducja . Prim mandekx ghal fejn tibza ?
J Galea
Nov 6th 2011, 09:26
I agree 100%....in 2013
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Nov 5th 2011, 14:55
The motion presented by the PL against Austin Gatt was defeated and Minister Gatt won the day.
The PL adherents were all out in supporting Franco Debono to do what they have been dreaming and hoping for such a long time, but to no avail.
One could see the gloomy face of the Leader of the Opposition on his way out from Parliament.
Who can blame him?
All those dreams, the impossible dreams, all went up in smoke.
All he has to do is just wait for 2013, for him to have a go at winning the next elections.
However, this is not guaranteed as a foregone conclusion, as more time passes, the electorate is seeing the “real” qualities of Joseph Muscat and these do not forebode well; e.g. the Sabrina Agius E-Mails and the No Policies Party!
The longer Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi holds on to power, the more the chances DIMINISH for Joseph Muscat’s of ever winning the next elections!
No wonder the PL and JM want to topple the PN Government as soon as possible, because time is not on their side.
JC.
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 14:41
If, between now and Tuesday, Austin Gatt takes no (real) steps to "assume responsibility" for the Arriva (and other) fiascoes, how can Franco Debono vote confidence in the government without contradicting himself?
George Azzopardi
Nov 5th 2011, 12:36
Dr.Gonzi seeks vote of confidence when he already knew that Dr.Debono had already stated so in earlier PN HQ meetings! Having heard Mr.Arrigo and Dr.Debono in their parliament speech yesterday, I'm sure there's more trouble ahead for this administration.
M Borg
Nov 5th 2011, 12:55
If what you said is true, one wonders why these two contested on the NP ticket !!
Jos Vella
Nov 5th 2011, 14:49
@M Borg
because the NP is open to opinions I believe. If something is not right it has to be fixed and the NP is not a one man party...otherwise it would be a dictatorship no?
M.Dolores Vassallo
Nov 5th 2011, 12:20
Min Qalbi nirringrazzja lil speaker talli ghogbu jivvota favur Agustino l-Komander, ghax bih fil poter jkompli jtellef il-Voti lil GonziPN.
raymond scicluna
Nov 5th 2011, 14:43
Grazzi mil qalb tal kumment tieghek. Kun af biss li l PN ilu jirbah u jfarrak lil MLP (ghax lil PL ghad m hemmx storja s issa) mil 1981 li jigifieri 30sena nieqes 22 xhar u kun af ukoll li fl ahhar elezzjoni s sur jason micallef beda jaghjat rebha ghax 17,000 fic cert nazzjonalisti lanqas biss marru jivvutaw!!!Ghad jonqoskom x taqdfu u s issa eliminajna Lil Mintoff, KMB u Dr Sant. Whose Next!!
joanna farrugia
Nov 5th 2011, 12:02
kif jaghmel berlusconi jaghmel il prim taghna hekk sar. il vote of confidence mal poplu ghamlu mela mal mp's.
kevin sammut
Nov 5th 2011, 14:52
proset
Henry S. Pace
Nov 5th 2011, 12:00
@ DR Brincat
' Political gimmicks should not mix with constitutional aspects '
Dr Brincat knows well the Political gimmicks that we used to witness when thePL and himself as a Minister how they used to fly by Mintoff and his party. 'O Tempora o mores'
Peter Agius
Nov 5th 2011, 14:32
Well said, Mr.Pace. Some people have very fragile memories.
Robert Galea
Nov 5th 2011, 11:51
Ghamlu investigazzjoni fuqha din li qieghed nghidilkhom inthom tat-times. Rotta 52 ta Had-Dingli wara nofsinhar qabghad u biddel ir-rotta huwa stess. Tlajt ma il 51 ta warajha u id-driver qalli li dak ghamel hekk biex jhassar.
Jigifieri li hemm drivers jahdmu ma l-arriva li jafu x'qieghed jigri go l-arriva. ghax ma tinvestigawx inthom u jkollkhom esklusiva li hadd iehor ma ghandhux. Gibu il-kumment tieghi irrid narhom jghamlu tahthom quddiemi.
Aristide Galea
Nov 5th 2011, 11:40
Il-veru ghandna pajjiz tal-Mickey Mouse . Jekk trid vot ta' fiducja mur ghand il-poplu u mhux ghand dawk li int stess ghidt li kienu responsabbli min din il-froga , jigifieri il-kabinett .
Wara kollox , hu il-poplu li ghandu jiddeciedi jekk ghandux fiducja fik , ghax il-miljuni hargu min flus il-poplu u mhux minghand dawk li int ghidt li kienu responsabbli ghall din ir-riforma .
M. Zammit
Nov 5th 2011, 12:49
Il-poplu fl-2008 ta lil PN mandat ta' hames snin. Il-Pn ghandu dover u dritt li jaghmilhom kollha. Ftakar meta fl-1981 kien hemm minn lanqas kellu mandat tal-maggoranza tal-poplu u dam 5 snin u 5 xhur
Aristide Galea
Nov 5th 2011, 17:00
Sur Zammit, L-ewwel haga nixtieq infakkrek li fin-1981 il-partit Laburista iggverna skont dak li kienet tghid il-kostituzzjoni , u dan inti tafu, u ghalhekk tippruvax tqarraq billi tallega li il-partit Laburista iggverna b'xi mod illegalment . Din kienet l-istess kostituzzjoni li kienet approvata mill-Gvern Nazzjonalista fil-Kostituzzjoni ta' l-Indipendenza fl-1964. Kellu jkun Gvern Laburista li ghamel dak it-tibdil necessarju sabiex ma jergax jigri dak li gara fl-1981. U dan ghax hekk kien jaqbel ghall pajjiz u ghad-demokrazija .
Jekk fl-2008 il-poplu ta mandat bi ftit voti lil PN biex jiggverna ghall hames snin , mela ghalfejn il-Prim MInistru qed jitlob vot ta' fiducja fil-gvern jekk mhux ghax jaf li seta' tilef dik il-fiducja ? Ghalfejn ma marx ghand l-istess poplu li kien tah dik il-fiducja fl-2008 ? Minflok ser imur ghand dawk il-ministri li hu stess qal li kienu responsabbli ghall dan it-tbazwir kollu f'din ir-riforma .
JOE ZAHRA
Nov 5th 2011, 11:33
Yesterday was the turing piont how we do politics in Malta , leaders are no longer untouchables, MPs are finding thier voices and thats healthy. the one that don,t listen is a fool.
Charles Sammut
Nov 5th 2011, 11:16
gonzi needs to retire to pasture....he looks very tired and haggard...must be the "smoke without fire" choking him.....the people in the island in the sun can empathise with him...we have been suffocating with this smoke which has been created by aligonzi and his cohorts for many years!!
Lawrence has to gogo.....away and take with him, austin ( who nearly toppled gonziPN) and tonio!
...and the beat goes on..and the beat goes on....
Tony Schembri
Nov 5th 2011, 11:56
I do not think of any other solotion. In all countries the Opposion is there to hinder rather than helping the country. What a democracy!!!
simon borg
Nov 5th 2011, 17:25
@tony schembri : Opposition is derived from "oppose". The opposition is there because of democracy not in absence of it! The opposition yesterday spoke the people's mind - 7 out of every 10 voters want Minister Gatt out. therefore this goes beyond petty partisan politics, beyond red, blue or green. Labour and Franco Debono were on the side of the people yesterday. Lawrence Gonzi was on Austin Gatt's side.
Now you tell me : who exercised democracy? and who abused it?
simple ain't it!
D. Xerri
Nov 5th 2011, 11:12
So Dr Franco Debono did not vote like all of his party members because he wanted Dr Austin Gatt out - Now Dr Franco Debono will vote Yes for a Vote of Confidence in Government when in this Government there is Dr Austin Gatt as one of the ministers :~) ??! So now we have it crystal clear it was all a GonziPN theatrical farse !!
Mr Emanuel Farrugia
Nov 5th 2011, 10:56
Il-kelma ezatta hija: POLITIKANTI IPOKRITI ghandu dan il-pajjiz. Ta' kuljum jghaddu z-zmien bic-cittadini. L-importanti huma 'l hbieb tal-hbieb f'dan il-pajjiz. Halluna nghixu. Il-verita twegga.
Emanuel Farrugia former Executive Secretary Mtarfa Local Council
A Bezzina
Nov 5th 2011, 11:18
Hafna kliem ... u kieku fhimtek wahda!!!
George Azzopardi
Nov 5th 2011, 12:39
@A Bezzina
bil-Malti kiteb .. nahseb mhux ghax il-kliem kien imhawwad izda ghax int ma tridtx tifhem!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 10:51
@ Victor Laiviera (5 Nov 2011 at 09:40)
@ Victor Laiviera.
Now I know why you remind me so vividly of Don Quixote de la Mancha!
It’s because of the song “My Quest – The Impossible Dream!” Here is an excerpt:
“To dream the impossible dream!
To fight the unbearable foe!
To bear the unbearable sorrow!
To run where the brave dare not go!
To right the the unrightable wrong,
To be far better than you are
To try when your arms are too wary
To reach the unreachable star
Oh this is my quest
To follow that star. No matter how hopeless ……. “
Dream on!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 12:04
The second line of the quotation from Don Quixote'e song should read:
To fight the unbeatable foe.
P.S. That was a regretted typographical error but, incidentally, it goes to prove that when I quote I I do not "copy and paste" as someone has suggested.
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 12:16
By the way ... it's "weary" not "wary"
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 13:08
You are absolutely correct. I am afraid that my typing leaves much to be desired.
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 16:47
Thank you, Dr Saliba - one of my favourite songs and one which I find very inspirational.
I have no problem whatsoever to be compared to it. In fact, I take it as a compliment.
Thanks you once again
Gino Caruana
Nov 5th 2011, 10:43
GINO CARUANA
It's not stability that the nation wants, it's ABILITY.
.
If you want to a REAL vote of confidence, call an election now.
G. Camilleri
Nov 5th 2011, 10:31
IN LESS THAN TWO YEAR'S TIME THE WORKERS IN MALTA WILL CAST THE CASTING VOTE AND GONZI PN WILL GO INTO OBLIVION.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 5th 2011, 10:30
It is not a vote of confidence that is required. It is asking the people for forgivness. Gonzi defens Agostino for the mess up. Sorry dear PM, you have no idea of the suffering of the people. You are surrounded by "yesmen" booth lickers. You need strong characters next to you capable of showing you the true facts of life.
Do not persist in error. Take stock. The financial situation is serios but has nothing to do with arrogance and persistence in error.
The old bus routes had developed through experience. Wake up to reality and admit that this waste of money was to remove the buses from City Gate and made to fis the space available. Ignore the hole in the wall, in your life time it will be filled with a proper gate as befits a walled city. What will history say about you?
Paul Cassar
Nov 5th 2011, 10:25
WHO IS REALLY LEADING THE PN ??
Franco Debono was the main show on Friday......................He suggested the Tuesday confidence vote and the PM obliged.
WHO IS REALLY RUNNING THE SHOW ???????
Rodnick Abdilla
Nov 5th 2011, 10:23
Dr Gonzi cannot keep governing by relying on the 'non-biased' casting vote of the Speaker !!! This is untenable. The country deserves better.
Charles Vella
Nov 5th 2011, 10:16
Call an election... and start everything all over... It's a total mess now... However we have an opposition who have been in their seats for 25 years, and yet, we have no idea of what they are to do when in government. So if there is an election, who shall I vote for?? The PN don't deserve my vote, and for what reason should I vote for PL? ...unfortunately we have no choice!
JOSEPH ZAMMIT
Nov 5th 2011, 09:59
POOR MALTA!
A beautiful country inhabited by political automatons---or sleepwalkers!
Louis Craus
Nov 5th 2011, 09:57
X' tahwid hawn bhalissa fil-pajjiz. Instabilita perfetta. Min jitlob biex jirrezenja, min ma jilqax ir-rizenja ta' min talabilu, min astjena qed jghid li ser jivvota favur il-fiducja fil-Gvern. Min jitlob Vot ta' fiducja.
John Dalli jitlob li Lou Bondi jigi nvestigat. Lou Bondi jirraporta lil John Dalli.
Tistghu taqbdu art?
JOSEPH ZAMMIT
Nov 5th 2011, 09:52
Poor tactics by the PM. Really, much ado about nothing--but in Malta, being what the majority of people are, this works.
How far we are from civilized people who really love democracy and believe that governments are there to serve--and NOT to be served! How parochial we are here!
In contrast:
the prime minister (Silvio Berlusconi) who returned home on Friday to face what looks increasingly like a
career-ending revolt by his own supporters.
Two deputies from Berlusconi's PDL party this week defected to the centrist UDC, taking his support in the 630-seat lower house of parliament to a likely 315 compared with the 316 he needed to win a confidence vote last month.
But at least seven other former loyalists have called for a new government and could vote against him.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2011/11/201111419113116724.html
This is what matters, not being BLUE or RED or GREEN, but being open-minded enough to choose and revolt against MPs who abuse democracy!
A Dimech
Nov 5th 2011, 09:45
il-bierah alla hares semmejt Debono lil PN.
Illum viva JPO u Debono!!! x'tahwid!!
J Busuttil
Nov 5th 2011, 10:57
A. Dimech it is good showing your feelings on how disappointed you are on yesterday's vote.
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 09:40
Dr Gonzi should have the guts and the political decency to seek a vote of confidence where it really matters - from the electorate.
Paul Camilleri
Nov 5th 2011, 10:39
hu pacenzja ftit iehor!!!!!!!!u meta jkun il-waqt......
Ivan Cutajar
Nov 5th 2011, 10:44
Vot ta fiduca irrid jigi mil-poplu - IVA
H. Psaila
Nov 5th 2011, 10:45
Just keep on dreaming of an early election Mr. Laviera. As the song by Everly Brothers - All I have to do is Dream. Sweet Dreams Mr. Laviera.
A Bezzina
Nov 5th 2011, 11:15
Dream on ... Perhaps it's what YOU wish, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do!
Peppi Borg
Nov 5th 2011, 09:35
What do you have to be satisfied about Agostino? The bus reform? - your challenge was to get the system more efficient and yet you failed. Or maybe the jobs created at SMART City? - your job was to ensure that this happened and yet you failed. Or possibly the Dockyard redundancies? - your job was to make this a profitable venture and yet you failed. City Gate project? - Michelangelo would cry if saw the plans. Or may the BWSC saga is your pride? - we all know that no proof of misdoing does not mean that there was NO misdoing. Or maybe you just don't care because you will not be running for the next elections? - your job was to serve your country and yet you failed. But you are satisfied and you sleep well.
Anthony Borg
Nov 5th 2011, 09:21
Tajjeb Hafna sur Muscat, int flok ghamilt ix-xoghol propju ta kap ta l'oppozizjoni, mort bil kontra u bhal dejem bdejna nipruvaw inkissru lil partit nazzjonalista, Flokk ghintu lil partit nazzjonalista biex din ir riforma tkun success, LE x'ghamiltu tlabtu ir rizenja tal ministru!! biex imbghad wara li m'ghadditx tghakhom, iddawar il kliem u tghid li l-prim ministru ghandu jghamel dak li hu tajjeb ghall pajjiz hahaha!!, imiskom tisthu!! intom postkom dejjem fl-oppozizjoni ax mali taslu ghal bicca xoghol bhal din laqqas biss tipruvaw tamluwa!
Sewwa nghid jien! intom tridu terbhu l'elezjoni biss biex tkunu qedtu li irbahtuwa u daqsekk (u tnessu ftit lil partitarjij taghkom it tlett dicenjij li fihom irenjat ir rebah tal partit nazzjonaista!!) xejn iktar u xejn inqas!
Mr Hans Borg
Nov 5th 2011, 09:20
GonziPN has now become synonymous with buzulotti!!!
Mr Charles Falzon
Nov 5th 2011, 09:10
Ma kellniex dubju JPO!!!!
Mr Ernest Vella
Nov 5th 2011, 09:02
Dr.Muscat qal lil Prim Ministru biex jaghmel ; "what he thinks is right not for his party but for the country.".
Dan ifisser li Dr.Muscat qed jghid lil Prim Ministru biex jirranga s-sistema tat-Transport Pubbliku biex tkun state of the art bhal hafna hwejjeg ohra, imma jibqa jmexxi l-pajjiz ghax m'hemmx alternattiva serja ghal PN. Il-PN huwa dak li f'dizastru ekonomiku, ghadu qed izomm il-pajjiz fuq saqajh, imma allahares jitla l-PL (li m'huwa xejn demm gdid) ghax aghar mill-Grecja nispiccaw.
Dwar din tat-tishih tad-demokrazija hija falza...ghax Lou Bondi ma jmexxix ix-xandir imma ghandu biss zewg programmi polemikuzi. Mill-bqija l-PBS ghandu programmi ferm interessanti. Fejn kien il-PL meta Lou Bondin kien ineffah il-qaliet tal-Moviment IVA....imma dakinhar ma kienx hemm imparzjalita ghax basta ndahhlu d-divorzju!!! Ipokriti kontu u tibqghu.
Mario Camilleri
Nov 5th 2011, 09:53
Ipokriti intom, għax id-deputati nazzjonalisti telgħu bil-wegħdi li ser ikunu LEJALI lejn il-kostitwenti tagħhom u filfatt urew li huma tardituri għax marru kontra r-rieda tal-poplu u favur biss il-partit tagħhom u dan biex jibqgħu kkamati mall-poter. B'dan is-servizz "ĠENJALI" tal-Arriava mhux il-laburisti biss qed ibagħatu imma kulħadd.
U minn qallek li m'aħniex bħal -Greċja? La jinżel Gonzi minhemm inkunu nafu!! Il-Greċja bħalna kienet sakemm inbidel il-Gvern li kien tal-istess ideat politiċi bħal tagħkom li tefgħet lill-Griegi f'hix jinsabu llum, ħabib!!
L-elezzjoni turina l-verita!!!
J Schembri
Nov 5th 2011, 08:59
I think you are wrong on this one Dr Brincat.
Our Prime Minister does not want another attention seeking MP from his side during the budget ,putting in doubt the stability of the government.
He learnt from Alfred Sant , and he won’t accept another storm in a teacup like this one . We need a prime minister who keeps his eye on the economy not from ‘vlegeg’ from his colleagues.
The vote of confidence will cut this talk about what ‘the people’ want.
Papandreou asked for a confidence vote and also and got it. Our situation is nowhere near Greece’s but it’s good to stop this nonsense once and for all.There are far more important decisions to be taken and need more energy than this ‘blame the minister’ debate.
BTW: Addio Franco.
Victor Vella
Nov 5th 2011, 08:53
The PL want an election now for fear that the goverment will soon be bringing in the harvest and then apart from the good that will come out of it there is the chance that Dr Muscat would have lost his mask and the truth of his incompetence would come to the surface.
robert pace
Nov 5th 2011, 09:46
well wait and see mr vella? This time around the nationalists have acted like despots and i cant see anyone defending such a goverment. do you know there are people with their jobs on a thread because of the beloved goverment . No way will we vote for such.....
joseph mifsud
Nov 5th 2011, 08:52
veru pajjiz tal mickey mouse.l-ewwel jastjeni u issa ha jivvota favur il gvern.kullhadd ihobbu dak is siggu fil parlament.
G Mangion
Nov 5th 2011, 09:58
joseph mifsud:
Int bis - serjeta ? ha nfakrek il - proposta ta l' mlp ' Kienet ta sfiducja fuq Dr. A Gatt, u Mux fuq il - Gvern !!
kemm kont mitluf my friend.
M. Bezzina
Nov 5th 2011, 08:48
u issa billi kulhadd jikkummenta u jghid tieghu x qed tihdu ?? mhux xorta kif inhuma ha jibqghu l affarijiet .min jappogja l gvern ha jghid kontra x jghidu l oppozizjoni , u ta l oppozizjoni ha jikritikaw bir ragun lil gvern tal fjask ta l arriva ,billi kulhadd itektek fuq it times of malta.com ghalijja huwa hela ta hin u just post fejn toqoghdu titghajru bejnietkhom ,minn dejjem hekk kienet u ghall dejjem hekk tibqa mlp vs pn ,jekk ghandi familja (il partit) u jkolli ibni(ministru) li ghamel xi haga hazina jien bhala missier ghall ibni ha naqbes ,erhila li id dar incanfru umbad, u din tahdem f kullimkien , team,klassi,familja,religjon,partit...etc etc
Peter Pace O'Shea
Nov 5th 2011, 08:48
So Franco Debono abstains(when he should have voted with the opposition. Austin Gatt should be made to resign once he has the cheek to stay on - that is what ministers do in democratic countries.
Part Two - Prime Minister seeks a vote of confidence in his government and Franco Debono now is going to vote with the Governemnt. Franco Debono is making a U turn becaue now he is voting confidence in Austin Gatt who is part of the Cabinet and the Government.
Tactics to accomodate those in government but we are not fools. Eventually the people who you are fooling,will vote you out. I believe the saying the power for too long, corrupts people.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 08:43
So, it was all a diversionary MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! (Honest I did not need to "copy and paste" that)
The LP opposition, aided and abetted by maverick Dr Franco Debono MLP NP, failed to unseat the Hon. Minister Austin Gatt.
Joseph Muscat has still to start justifying his shady political shenanigans with a lady mole that had already been planted in the RTK newsroom and was discussing the feasibility of expanding her clandestine activities to The Times and the P.B.S.
Government is seeking, and will most certainly succeed in obtaining, a straight-forward "vote of confidence".
Hopefully, government will be allowed to continue to tackle successfully the undesirable effects of a world-wide economic crisis as it affects us here in Malta.
A premature election was and remains still a pipe-dream, a " ... consummation, much to be desired ..." by the LP - but none the less, a still dream and as Don Quixote would lament "the impossible dream".
Next election time the protagonists of this tragi-comedy will have to face the electorate and be judged according to their merits and demerits. Let the fence-mending begin!
Ring up the curtain for the next act!
l vella
Nov 5th 2011, 09:05
Please i beg you........they me you dont really believe what you just posted !
I can accept blinkered statements from a lot of people but from a hopefully 'educated' person...I just dont know
Step out of your ivory tower please and come and live with us poor mortals.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 10:07
@ I Vella.
I attach no importance at all to your unsolicited worthless opinion about my educational qualifications and your assessment of your own competence to speak on behalf of anybody else - certainly not on my behalf or your mysterious "they", whoever you think they are.
d. attard
Nov 5th 2011, 08:37
It is relatively easy to keep together a NP coalition even if the core influential group is made up of the extreem conservative faction employed on fire-fighting rather than wealth creation...yet at what cost to the Nation not least because of so much wasted time underpinned by a compromise-diluted vision imbedded in the reactive?
charles tabone
Nov 5th 2011, 08:34
Dr Debono's vote in favour of Dr Gonzi's confidence motion means that Friday's debate was a waste of time because it is evident that Dr Austin Gatt will stay, even though he had intimated his resignation from ministerial duties if Friday's vote passed by the speaker's casting vote. All in all it was BLA BLA BLA FRIDAY. This shows to what extremes politics in Malta have been moved on to.
Robert Galea
Nov 5th 2011, 08:30
Tant irnexxiet din ir-riforma li ma l-ewwel gurnata 180 xuffier ugghathom zaqhom u ma deherhux.
Tant irnexxiet din ir-riforma li jekk l-arriva jigifieri il-privat jghid il-xuffier Laburista biex jiehu certu rotta dan jghamel fattih u jbiddel ir-rotta minn jgheddu u jghamel li jrid.
IR-RIFORMA KIENT SUCCESS.
Mr Luciano Busuttil
Nov 5th 2011, 08:21
How can Franco Debono vote in favour of the vote of confidence in the Government when Austin Gatt, the man he attacked in Parliament requesting him to do the honourable thing and resign as there are other who can do a better job, is still part of the Government? If what he was truthful in what he said ie.. 'il-kelma u l-koerenza tibqa imma s-siggu jmur u jigi' he should abstain as well.
Mario Vella
Nov 5th 2011, 08:14
The question is whether Dr Debono remains consistent when he comes to approve or otherwise Dr.Gatt's estimates later on this month? these include transport votes!!!!
E. Azzopardi
Nov 5th 2011, 08:08
That was the only way forward. However, it will not change anything.The problem is there and it is permanent.
A. Mizzi
Nov 5th 2011, 07:30
Why is Dr. Gonzi calling for a vote of confidence in his government ? Is he not sure anymore?
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Will he be giving his MPs a Free Vote.... or is it wishing too much a secret vote?
How can Dr. Gonzi be so sure of Franco Debono's vote or for any of his MPs for what it matters?
this is a circus not a Parliament... or better still our Parliament has been transformed into a Circus and would be better housed in a big tent than a new parliament building!!
Dr. Franco Debono has no option but to vote in favour, as there is also the QUESTION on his position as a Parliamentary Ass. within the Prime Minister's Office !
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Get some democracy into the P.N. - Practice what you preach Dr. Gonzi!
albert galea
Nov 5th 2011, 07:03
THE PM SHOULD ASK THE MALTESE PUBLIC FOR A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE. OF COURSE HIS MPs WILL VOTE IN FAVIOUR. THEY WILL NOT RISK TO LOSE THEIR POWER. IT'S A SHAME THAT IN THIS COUNTRY NO ONE IS RESPONSABLE FOR THE MILLIONS OF EURO WASTED ON THE NEW PUBLIC TRANSPOT SYSTEM.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 09:02
In this parliamentary democracy it is the incumbent Prime Minister who decides when to call the next election - not any obscure commenter who feels the need to attract attention to his "wisdom" by writing a whole comment in Caps Lock!
FRANS H SAID
Nov 5th 2011, 10:31
@ Francis Saliba
This is not democracy but another form of dictatorship
Ivan Cutajar
Nov 5th 2011, 11:00
Francis Saliba you eye are coated with you pride and arrogance - looking like you have donkey harness being attached to and pull a cart of the Party. Know I could understand, the process of recruiting student in Maltese University. Wisdom don't come by deploring as this Gov.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 13:03
@ Ivan Cutajar.
How I love it when I reduce people like you to impotent rage and incomprehesible English instead of reasonable comment; for example:
" ... you eye are coated with you pride ..."
" ... you have donkey harness being attached to ..."
" ... Know I could understand ..."
" ... Wisdom don't come by deploring as this Gov. "
Evidently you do not understand the process "of recruiting students in Maltese University" because your comment strongly suggests that you never made the grade. And, in the unlikely eventuality that you were selected as a student, then the responsible selection board should be placed against a wall and shot out of hand for defiling my dear Alma Mater.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Nov 5th 2011, 06:57
Political gimmicks should not mix with constitutional aspects. A vote of confidence is obtained by the incoming government after propounding its programme to parliament. Once that is obtained, there is no need for votes of confidence. The only possibility is a vote of no confidence to try to topple the government.
There is an annual procedure of a "no confidence vote" when the budget is for discussion. Financial Bills imply a vote of no confidence, if such bills are defeated.
A government may have a hot issue and declare that it would consider the matter as a vote of confidence, and the result may be decisive. But first there must be an issue. The other option is when Parliament opens a new session. This has no fallen in disuse as the whole period of the legislature is one single session. Previously it was not so.
A confidence vote is patting on each other's back by the majority in Parliament, when there is no issue that needs the approval of Parliament.
Or are we watching too much Italian television ?
Paul Giordimaina
Nov 6th 2011, 09:23
Listen to the expert
jjose pace
Nov 5th 2011, 06:41
jiena ex nazjonalist gonzi ghajat ellezjoni ghax qazizna lil kulhadd issa jiena nahdem min filodu sa flaxija biex forsi niprova nejx jiena u familja paga minima u intom hatu 500 zieda ma li kelkom paga ghal dan id-dizastru fil-transport pubilku tal-misthija u laktar li imisu jisthi min qal li zmien il-buzuloti spicca imma kif nipqaw nidefenduh????
godwin difesa
Nov 5th 2011, 10:25
Issa la ritilaw il PL tahdem inqas tibzax forsi ikolok ixorti tahdem 4 days a week tibzax .Jekk andek paga minima tista tmur titenja ETC hu itik 25eu ohra fil gimgha plus timpruvja la bilta tighek.Daqt tigi ellezjoni fi zmiem 20 xhar ohra stena ftit fejn ilek 25 sena ftit xhur mhux ha jamlu difereza habbib.
H. Psaila
Nov 5th 2011, 10:52
Mela issa Sur Pace mur u vvota Labour halli m'ikollokx dispjacir, halli Malta tkun genna tal-art fil-holm meta jkun hemm il-Labour fil-poter. Id-dizastru fi transport qieghed tara, ghaliex ma tarax kif pajjizi ohra Ewropej qieghdin inaqqsu kull beneficcji u izziedu il-pensonijiet u ahna m'ghandha xejn minn dan. Dak missek tghid u mhux it-trasport. Jiena lanqas nemnek li inti ex-nazzjonalist inti Laborist u qieghed tghid li inti ex-nazzjonalist.
jjose pace
Nov 5th 2011, 17:46
jekk mintix temen h.psaila nista natik infurmazjoni kolla bla problema habib u tara min lima familja ativista nazjonalista hireg jiena u ma teminx sihbi
Ramon Casha
Nov 5th 2011, 06:34
Seek a vote of confidence from the country - call an election.
Carmel Farrugia
Nov 5th 2011, 06:14
Wasn't this motion a waste of time and money? Shouldn't our MPs in Parliament debate things which are life and death of the Maltese economy? Doesn't the leader of the opposition and his MPs see the economic mess there is around us? The world is in a veritable mess and we are deabting public transport......
T Gauci
Nov 5th 2011, 05:36
The way they compare Greece's crisis (a population of more than 11 million) to a tiny population of 400k is beyond reality. Logically the economic impact is more felt in larger countries, stop this hogwash of manipulating weak minds who actually believe we can go through the way Greece did and you saved us all.
Lawrence Fenech
Nov 5th 2011, 04:13
Jekk trid vot ta' fiducja mur ghand il-poplu u mhux ghand min jimpurtah mis-siggu u butu ghax il-poplu tellak hemm u hu ser inehhik.
Issa trid il fiducja minn ghand min sfiducjajt.
Mr Francesco Callus
Nov 5th 2011, 02:45
M'hawnx bhalu Dr.Muscat.....verament hsieb profond mghandniex xi nghidu.....biss niddubita hafna jekk hu verament jixtieqx il-gid ghall pajjiz jew ghal poter. Ma ninsewx li lkilba biex il PL ikun fil-gvern qed tikber dejjem izjed....imsomma tinftiehem ukoll....
Leonard Cole
Nov 5th 2011, 01:53
The PM is seeking a vote of confidence to which i am sure that all the Nationalist Parliament Members will vote in favour. Some readers are stating that an early Election should take place for the good of the country, though do we have a reliable opposition to run the country ? Since from the Labour party we are not hearing anything except “ we have solutions but we are not going to divulge anything” Let’s get serious and act in order for this country to move forward.
Victor Laiviera
Nov 5th 2011, 01:02
If Lawrence Gonzi had enough guts and political decency, he would seek a vote of confidence from the people who really matter - the electorate.
Ronald Bowman
Nov 5th 2011, 00:53
Congratulations to the Hon. Prime Minister and the Hon Dr. Austin Gatt. They both dedicated their political life for the benefit of our beloved Malta and have successfully achieved reforms in fields where none of their vociferous opponents ever dared tread.
I agree with the Hon. Dr Joseph Muscat that the Hon. Prime Minister MUSt do what he thinks is right for the country. HE MUST CONTINUE TO TO LEAD THE COUNTRY. and, as his government did during the last recession, he will continue to promote investment thus safeguarding the jobs and livelihood of the Maltese workers in the face of the financial and economic difficulties which surround us, By doing so and by continueing good government he should consolidate the electorate's confidence and ensure another Nationalist Party ekectoral victory and keep Labour out of office FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.
Mr Joseph Carmel Chetcuti
Nov 5th 2011, 00:40
Gonzi knows full well that there will be a majority of parliamentarians who will vote in favour of confidence in his government. Why is he wasting the parliament's time? For no other reason than to be seen to be a 'winner'. He should get on with the reform that he has promised the nation. Another smokescreen!
J Galea
Nov 5th 2011, 00:00
Why is the public transport, at the moment and rightly so, the major worry in Malta? ofcourse because economic indicators are favourable and positive. No serious concern on job losses or concerns on social benefits deductions. No concern about cuts in salaries or drastic measures due to economic failures. On the contrary, encouraging figures in job creation and investment confirmed by Fitch and Standardl & Poors. Ah, and whose mind was behind the IT revolution in Malta, Dr Austin Gatt.
So yes the PN, with its vision and courage, is the proven party which seriously guarantees economic stability in Malta.
Charles Micallef
Nov 4th 2011, 23:53
waste of frigging time..........The Prime Minister knows only too well that none of his Party's MP's will dare vote against him and dare lose their gains made through the party and political affiliations! So please stop trying to impress us, as if the mulititudes of daily press calls are not enough!
deeds not paroli please!
M Farrugia
Nov 4th 2011, 23:29
the right for the country at the present moment is that Gonzi will continue as Prime Minister. ther is no replace at the present moment. If someone else whether from the opposition or within the party shos his ability then the general public will decide as it have been done in the past.
Mr Luciano Busuttil
Nov 4th 2011, 23:26
How can Franco Debono vote in favour of a vote of confidence in the government when Austin Gatt is still part of this Government, when he clearly showed that he has no confidence in this minister?
Mario Vella
Nov 4th 2011, 23:25
Let's see if Dr Debono remains consistent when he comes to approve or otherwise Dr Gatt's estimates, which include transport!!! That will be the real test, not next Tuesday's which is only a cosmetic vote of confidence for the government
David Bezzina
Nov 4th 2011, 23:20
HAFNA TEATRINI U HELA TA' HIN.
IL-PM M'GHANDUX IL-FIDUCJA TA' KULHADD FIL-GRUPP PARLAMENTARI TIEGHU.DIN MHUX L-EWWEL DARBA LI DEPUTATI PARLAMENTARI TAL-GVERN IVVOTAW KONTRA RIEDA TAL-KAP TAGHHOM.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 5th 2011, 08:57
Jekk joghgbok, stenna sal-confidence vote ta' nhar it-Tlieta u ikteb wara. Nissuggerilek li ma tuzax l-Caps Lock biex temfasizzax il-hmerijiet li tkun qed tikteb. Anzi, jkun ahjar jekk ma tikteb xejn.
Sabrina Grech
Nov 4th 2011, 23:17
The current administration evokes great historical memories - those of the SS Ohio limping into the Grand Harbour
Mario Vella
Nov 4th 2011, 23:15
I hope Dr Debono remains consistent vis-a-vis Dr.Gatt, when the latter later on this month presents his ministry's estimates, which includes transport, and abstains! That will be the real test not next Tuesday's cosmetic vote!!!
C. Muscat
Nov 4th 2011, 23:10
Rebha kbira ghal gatt bix-xieraq issa kun ragel u ara li arriva jonoraw il-maximum waiting time u fejn bhal Birkirkara li qabel konna indumu forsi 10 minuti ma jalluniex xi siegha.
Jekk iggieghel lil ariva jimxu mal-kuntratt Malta tara l-pulitka it-tajba bhal ma gara fuq l-ewropa. Good luck.
VV Bartolo
Nov 4th 2011, 23:06
nistennew repeat ta' tejatrin iehor mela nhar it-Tlieta!
Victor Vella
Nov 4th 2011, 22:44
Ara veru pajjiz tal-Mickey Mouse. Dawn il-politikanti hasbuna li ahna kollha xi Peppi Azzopardi jew Lou Bondi jew xi xarabank retardiva bhal ta` l-Arriva. Jekk Gonzi gibed kollhox fuqu u assumma li l-progett falla ghax huwa kien gidra hadra mela nhar it-Tlieta kulhadd ghandu jivvotta vot ta` sfiducja kontra Gonzi inkluz Debono. Jekk nhar it-Tlieta Debono jivvotta favur dak li ammetta li huwa gidra, Debono jkun parti minn ghalqa mimmlija gdur .
Sabrina Grech
Nov 4th 2011, 22:40
Why do I get the feeling that we have somehow become a 'Potemkin democracy'? Our children seriously deserve better.
J.K. Sciberras
Nov 4th 2011, 22:39
Is this motion of vote of confidence really needed it? After all the PM said that he has an indication that all elected with the PN ticket are going to vote yes.
So I ask, why do we need this motion? Is it a way to alienate the people out there from the real problem?
The economic situation deserves much more than 11 hours of debate the proved after all for nothing. Do not get me wrong; I am not saying that Austin was not to resign, but what I am saying is, while our parliament was debating this motion; and we all knew what the out come was going to be, the rest of Europe which we form part of was discussing measures to try and save the economy.
Sometimes I fell that parliament is like a ‘fixed’ football match, which is not interesting since we all know the final score before the game actually starts.
Joseph Pace
Nov 4th 2011, 22:22
Two very simple questions! Had Dr Gatt been employed in the private sector as a business manager would he have saved his job tonight based on performance ? Or is accountability different in this case?
A Dimech
Nov 4th 2011, 22:20
GONZI FIDUCJA U SERHA IL-MOHH
dan kien il-billboard tal-PN;
GONZI JOFFRI PAR IDEJN SODI
dan kien il-billboard l'iehor tal-PN;
SMART CITY 6,000 XOGHOL GHAL-MALTIN
kien jghid il-billboard l'iehor
INNAQSU L'INCOME TAX
Wieghed Gonzi....
Biex issa l'anqas bicca ARRIVA ma ghandna kapaci jkollna tahdem....
sena u nofs ohra ta' tqanzieh u instabilita'
lilly vella
Nov 4th 2011, 22:15
dal kuragg kollu nammirak prim , ejja nsejhu elezjoni, ahna bhalna m hawnx.
jesmond zammit
Nov 4th 2011, 22:14
ghal darba ohra kontra l poplu.
Manwel Debattista
Nov 4th 2011, 22:13
Il-Par Idejn m'ghadhomx Sodi ghax qeghdin jirtodu bl-ikrah.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Nov 4th 2011, 21:54
A smart solution to a conundrum cleverly found by the PM and his advisors for I have no doubt that FD will vote with the rest of PN members of parliament in supporting the coming vote of confidence. Once FD had painted himself in a corner there was no way he could honorably retract his stand and not abstain. But let us admit it, this solution is nothing more than a game of political chicanery or political smoke and mirrors which will certainly not win any votes with the electorate . It is just a way for government to hobble through the budget until the next inevitable destabilizing crisis brought about by some other back bencher.
Dominic Fenech
Nov 4th 2011, 22:23
Perceptive. Appears to have been all staged.
Jo Meli
Nov 4th 2011, 23:13
Bert, it was Dr FRANCO DEBONO himself to suggest such way out to his Prime Minister some days back.
ALBERT FENECH
Nov 5th 2011, 05:23
Very well put Mr Leone Ganado. What better way to cover up a farce than to stage another farce within a few days, an attempt to "prove" that "we are all united really - this was just a small blip". What is really galling about this total charade is that we still have a majority of politicians who think and feel that the general electorate is so stupid they can be fobbed off with any old rope. Not only is that arrogant - it is insulting.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
Edward Mallia
Nov 5th 2011, 08:23
Very precisely put. The similarities between our Government and that of our northern neighbour is becoming too close for comfort. Dr. Gonzi, on being saved by the Speaker's casting vote, promptly announces a 'confidence' vote for next week. Berlusconi, caught napping and losing a vote on a money bill,
rounds on his laggards, which in this case included the Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti, an orders a vote of confidence in the following few days, under a party whip which declares that those on his side who vote against are 'traitors', not to the party, but to Italy.
E. Vassallo
Nov 5th 2011, 11:29
@Dominic Fenech, perceptive, I don't think so, more of a PR excercise and a bit of attention seeking by a narcisstic politician. Reminds of another poltician who although into old age he's not yet been redeemed completely by his party.
pat muscat
Nov 4th 2011, 21:54
Jekk ghandu l-amor propju, Dr Gonzi jaf l-ahjar ghazla ghandha tkun ta elezzjoni bikrija; b'hekk biss Malta jista ikollha Gvern stabli ghax issa iddejaqna bis-sulluzzu,u pass l' quddiem u tnejn lura! J'Alla ikollhu id-dehen li jaghmel dak li l-ahjar ghal pajjiz mhux ghal partit tieghu.
B Ellul
Nov 4th 2011, 22:40
elezzjoni bikrija... dak il PL jiehu number ONE ghaliha! Hudu pacenzja u stennew
M Farrugia
Nov 4th 2011, 23:30
elezzjoni bikrija tfisser hela ta flus ghalxejn f'dan il-mument ghax fi krizi bhal din mondjali u ewropeja ma hemm hadd li jista jibdlu
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 5th 2011, 00:48
Ahhh ... PL supporters ... from one side they say that what Franco Debono did is good and shows signs of democracy, from the other side they want a government without any elements such as Franco Debono?? Gonzi today showed he is ready to take blame for one of his team members ... he showed the skills of a true leader where the answer is not to fire someone but to work together in order to solve a problem. Additionally he showed that PN can function as a government even with Franco Debono - which position should be a (in a positive way) eye opener to those in PN... indeed we no longer need labour ... Today within PN we have both government and opposition!!
David Aquilina
Nov 5th 2011, 02:34
U l-gvern stabbli min se jgibu? Joseph Muscat, l-istess wiehed li hlief kritika distruttiva mhux kapaci jaghmel? Hlief imaqdar u jparla fil-vojt u jghid li l-PM ghamel l-affarijiet hziena ma jghidx, imma mbaghad QATT ma johrog b'soluzzjoni! Meta xi hadd isaqsih - jghid li l-affarijiet ihabbruhom ghall-elezzjoni! U ejja hallina, dak irid imexxi l-pajjiz!? Tahsibx li qed nipprova nghid li Lawrence Gonzi qed jaghmel xi haga eccezzjonali ta, anzi zgur mhux hekk, imma jiddispjacini nghidlek li Joseph Muscat mhux alternattiva!! Ara li kieku l-PL ghazel lil George Abela kieku jien l-ewwel wiehed nivvota PL kont u nkun cert li jkollna pajjiz miexi fuq ir-rubini! Imma mhux Joseph ghax qed jaghmel bhal meta konna fis-sekondarja nilaghbu tal-ors!!
Paul Giordimaina
Nov 5th 2011, 07:07
Pat hu pacenzja stenna 18 il xaghar iehor forsi aktar ukoll ghax memx alternativa.
Carmel Xuereb
Nov 5th 2011, 08:24
U mhux hekk nibqghu mela lil dawn ta-PN ma tafhomx, jibqghu jgranfaw mal-poter sa l-ahhar x'jimpurtahom x'inhu l-ahjar ghal pajjiz l-ewwel kmandament tghhom huwa x'jimporta ghalija u x#ghala l-mouse mill-pajjiz. Hemm hafna hbieb ta' gewwa li qed jerdghu kemm idum hemm dan il-gvern u minhabba fihom m'hemmx x'taghmel ikollu jibqa hemm fil-maltemp. Issa bit-tajjeb u bil-hazin (iktar bil-hazin) minn din il-mewga li giet fuqu u daqt tigi ohra u mibqghu sejrin hekk qisna dghajsa fil-maltemp nehilsu minn mewga u nestennew li tigi ohra. Ara fi zmien Sant ma qghadx jara l-partit u l-partitarji sejjah elezzjoni u b'hekk Malta kellha gvern stabli. U lil Gonzi z'qed izommu milli jaghmel l-istess??? Din hu jafha u mhux ha nghid li jrid jerfa r-responsabilta ghax responsabilta la hu u l-inqas hadd minn ta' madwaru ma jafu xi tfisser. Sahha u Viva Malta qabel tgheraq.
Mark Jones
Nov 4th 2011, 21:51
What the hell is the point of a confidence vote next Tuesday? We know what the result will be and Gonzi will limp along until the next election.
Instead of wasting more time, Gonzi, just get the idiot Gatt to sort out the mess he's created. Then you and he can walk off hand-in-hand into political oblivion at the next election.
JOSEPH VELLA
Nov 5th 2011, 07:56
People like yourself should think twice before opening their mouth because you might get a very big unhappy surprise in the next election and then we'll see who may end up walking away hand in hand
Philip Hili
Nov 4th 2011, 21:42
Iva, intom li qeghdin tparlaw ghax daqxejn dizappuntati? stejqru ftit!!!
Tafu li hafna mid-deputati laboristi li tkelmu lanqas jafu jitkelm bil-Maltai? Ezem
Onro. Noel Farrugia. - ma jafx li l-plural ta' GARDEL huwa GRIEDEL u mhux GARDELLI!!!!!!!! Dan kien qieghed jiddefenti ix-xufiera li kien ikollhom xi ghasfur ta' l-ghana f'gabjetta fil-gabina waqt li qeghdin isuqu!!! MAMMA MIA!!!! X'Wahx! barra, li dan suppost jaf li dawk l-ghasafar bhal dawk ma ghandhomx ikun f'gabjetta.
Dan wiehed biss ghax bhalu hemm hafna. Imma ghal issa daqshekk.
Sabrina Grech
Nov 4th 2011, 21:53
l-importanti li dawn id-deputati jirriflettu il-wegghat li tabilhaqq qed ihoss il-poplu Malti... u mhux jagixxu b'mod superficjali bhal ma qed tagixxi int, Hili.
David Spiteri
Nov 4th 2011, 22:11
Nahseb ahjar tara daqxejn il-Malti tieghek siehbi qabel tikkritika lil- haddiehor!!!
1) laburisti mhux laboristi;
2)...lanqas jafu jitkelem - jew lanqas jaf jitkellem jew inkella lanqas jafu jitkellmu, kellek il-kelma jitkellem miktuba hazin ukoll;
3) Malti mhux Maltai;
4) Onro.Noel Farrugia, nahseb Onor. ridt tghid;
5) GARDELL mhux GARDEL;
6) kabina mhux gabina;
7) qieghdin mhux qeghdin.
Nahseb li daqsekk.
DAVID D. PACE
Nov 4th 2011, 23:42
kemm int tad-dahk Philip ghax gralek bhall-qahba ta' zmien Kristu....meta Gesu' qalilhom:" isma' min m'ghandu l-edba htija jitfa' l-ewwel gebla"......ahahahahahaha mela ieqaf u ahseb sabih. Good night Austin Gatt.
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 5th 2011, 00:53
@Sabrina Grech
WHERE WAS LABOUR DURING THE CONSULTATION PROCESS??
Being part of labour means not giving any input and then as soon as things go bad start pointing fingers here and there. Where where the labour local councils during the consulations process? This is the same as Joseph saying he will only say how to solve Malta's problem before the next election!! Those are not the actions of a leader!!
Philip Hili
Nov 5th 2011, 01:16
@ David Spiteri
U iva, ma gara xejn, ghandek ragun!! grali bhal Dr. Emails!! Heqq!! dak li ghandu l-komputer, tikteb u tibghat minghajr ma tara xi ktibt. Pero' l-aqwa li hadtu l-messagg. Issa jekk inti xi professur fil-kitba tal-Malti, ghidilna halli noqghodu attenti x'niktbu!!
Wara kollox, il-korrezzjoni tieghek ghandha hafna interpretazzjonijiet. imma bhal li inti professur u lecturer tal-Malti, inbaxxi rasi!!
Philip Hili
Nov 5th 2011, 01:26
@ David Spiteri
Wara kollox tidher daqxejn patetiku siehbi!! biex tikkoregi l-kelma "Laborist" u tghid li suppost "Laburist" jew inkella Maltai flok Malti, jew Onro. flok Onor. It-tfal nan-nuna jaghmlu hekk ghax ma jkollomx argumenti x'jipprezentaw bhal ma fil-fatt ma ghandikx int, u allura ridt taqbad ma' hmerijiet... Isa, ara hemmx x'zball f'dan li ktibt jien! Nitolbok biex tikkoregi ftit l-emails li ghaddew bejn Dr. Emails u ms Sabrina Agius li ma jmurx hemm xi zball!!!! u ma jghaddux mit-test.
Philip Hili
Nov 5th 2011, 01:33
@Sabrina Grech
Biex tirrifletti il-wegghat ta' xi whud minn nies taqleb kollox ta' taht fuq u tghid tajjeb dak li hu hazin? Ghax nghiduha kif inhi, dak inti qeghdha tghid "il-wegghat li tabilhaqq qed ihoss il-poplu Malti". Tkellem ghalik please.
Jiena ma ghandix l-icken dubbju li inti qatt ma sifirtx, Qatt rajt xi xufier tat-trasport pubbliku ta' barra minn Malta, bil-flokk ta' taht u b'gabjetta quddiemu? Dik superficjalita@? U hallina Miss.
Lawrence Fenech
Nov 5th 2011, 04:20
@Spiteri.
Prosti, ikkoregejt lil min jahseb li jah hafna.
Noel Mifsud
Nov 5th 2011, 05:33
Ara veru ma ghandekx xi tghid ta, bil hazin kollu taghhom, u kellhom hazin, jien dejjem wasalt il belt f 20 minuta, u dawn bit tajjeb kollu taghhom biex nasal sal furjana qed niehu fuq siegha u nofs. Veru ma ghandekx xi tghid
John Mifsud
Nov 5th 2011, 07:03
Tghallem ikteb siehbi. Qabel tikteb ahjar tara t-travu li ghandek f'ghajnejk!!!!!!!!
Sibtlek zball iehor.
JIDDEFENDI u mhux Jiddefenti.
Ara biex irridu nghabbu wkoll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bug Agius
Nov 5th 2011, 07:38
Proset David Spiteri :)
U Philip Hili, jekk inti qieghed tghid li forsi id-deputati Laburisti "lanqas jafu jitkelm bil-Maltai", tant iehor Gonzi ma jafx x'inhu jaghmel ta'!
Mr Luciano Busuttil
Nov 5th 2011, 08:14
Tghallek ikteb bil-Malti int qabel habib!
Alfred Vassallo
Nov 5th 2011, 09:02
Nahseb jien ahjar tistejqer INT ghax bil fernezija li ghandek lanqas taf x'int taghmel!!!! basta tlablab ghawnhekk.
Alfred Vassallo
Nov 5th 2011, 12:43
Quote: U iva, ma gara xejn, ghandek ragun!! grali bhal Dr. Emails!! Qed tireferri ghal Paul Borg Olivier ghand nifhem. Proset naqbel mieghjek mija fil mija.
Stephanie Mizzi
Nov 5th 2011, 14:52
To David Spiteri,
I laughed so much reading your reply .. Good one !
Philip Hili
Nov 5th 2011, 16:20
Dottor jew Mr. Luciano Busuttil,
Gralek bhali!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ara dan hu l-kumment tieghek:-
"Mr Luciano Busuttil
Today, 08:14
Tghallek ikteb bil-Malti int qabel habib!"
Tista' tghidli xi tfisser il-kelma "Tghallek"???
Allura mhux ahjar titghallem tikteb inti wkoll?????
Philip Hili
Nov 5th 2011, 18:20
Mr. Luciano Busuttil
"Tghallek ikteb bil-Malti int qabel habib!"
Mhux ahjar taghmel bhali int ukoll!!!!!!
Philip Hili
Nov 7th 2011, 00:13
TO ALL OF YOU:- David Spiteri, DAVID D. PACE, Lawrence Fenech, Noel Mifsud, John Mifsud, Bug Agius, Mr Luciano Busuttil, Alfred Vassallo, :-
Il-qarrejja ta' din il-pagna, mhux korrezzjoni fil-grammatika jinteresshom jew xi zball genwin bhal ma ghamel Dottor/Mr Luciano Busuttil biex ikkorega lili ara hawn taht:-
"Mr Luciano Busuttil
Yesterday, 08:14
Tghallek ikteb bil-Malti int qabel habib!Mhux ahjar tghidu lill qarrejja ta' din " - Tghallek!!!!!
IMMA:-
1.) li fi zmien it-terrur tar-regim Laburista it-telefon kien lussu u kien ikollok thallas Lm50 baxx baxx lil xi bazuzlu biex ituk linja,
2.) Kont tkun trid rakkomandazzjoni min ghand xi ministru lil "Dear Philip" biex ikollok TV tal-kulur u jekk ikollok xi marka hamra hdejn ismek, ma ghandikx cans TIXTRI SETT TAT-TELEVISION TAL-KULUR,
3.) Biex kont issib xoghol, kont tkun trid tidhol fil-korpi TAHT DIXXIPLINA MILITARI. Dawn huma l-korpi:- "Dirghajn il-Maltin", "Bahhar u Sewwi", "Izra u Rabbi", "il-Pijunieri" u l-ahhar korp kien ser ikun "welled u radda' " ha! ha!,
4.) Dwar it-trattat sigriet li ghamel l-AST mal-Korea Komunista tad-dittatur Kim-Li-Sung,
5.) Dwar it-trattat tal-Partit Laburista mar-regim tad-dittatur - GADDAFI,
6.) Jinteresshom dwar tal-"GARDELLI" li kien jifforma parti mill-kumitat rivoluzzjonarju ta' zmien Gaddafi,
7.) Kif ex-deputari Laburisti Maltin kienu jindukraw flus Gaddafi li llum nafu li huma flus tal-martri.
Hemm hafna izjed ta! Jekk tkunu tridu xi ftit ezempji ohra infurmawni u nghidilkom b'xi ftit izjed.
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 4th 2011, 21:40
"PM SHOULD DO WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY - MUSCAT"
Yes ... make sure you never become PM!!
Paul Giordimaina
Nov 5th 2011, 08:02
Thanks profs Spiteri
B Ellul
Nov 4th 2011, 21:39
A lot of people want an election! Gonzi IS NOT Sant and therefore an election will be held in due course! Dawk il kummidji il PL jaghmilhom u mhux il PN....
I hope that Debono is shown the door
A Dimech
Nov 4th 2011, 21:51
Kummiedji? sa jzomm pajjiz imkaxxkar sena u nofs ohra.... l'aqwa li jkollu l'poter!
Savior Chetcuti
Nov 4th 2011, 21:55
B. Ellul sewwa qed tghid. Issa lil Debono hallieh f'idejna il-votanti Nazzjonalisti tad-distrett tieghu meta tasal l-elezzjoni.
B Ellul
Nov 4th 2011, 22:34
A.Dimech
I think that you're confusing 1996-1998 with today.... Yes, Sant kien jikkumidja meta mar il-Birgu u sahan u kull meta kien jiftah halqu! Il-Poplu fl'ahhar elezjoni ta lil gonzi il-poter ghal hames snin u hekk se jaghmel, jigverna ghal hames snin. ghalxejn teqirdu biex izur.
J.K. Sciberras
Nov 4th 2011, 22:43
Is this the democracy that you believe in? If someone does not agree with you, he or she must be shown the door?
Richard Caruana
Nov 5th 2011, 06:33
A. Dimech
Jalla jkaxkar ghat-tul, ghallinqas sa dakinhar il-qaghad jibqa jonqos, jekk jitla l-Lajber bir-rekord li ghandhu nergghu nmorru l-bahar
M.Dolores Vassallo
Nov 5th 2011, 06:59
GHANDEK XTITLEF DONNOK SUR ELLUL, MA NATIEKX TORT LI QIEGHED TIBZA MIN ELLEZJONI.
Mr Charles Falzon
Nov 5th 2011, 07:43
What a democratic party dan il PN hux.....
Mr Stephen Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:22
It is from the people that you need to seek a vote of confidence Dr Gonzi not from your puppets in parliament. Again the speaker was asked to save the government and yet the speaker is not an elected member of parliament and his vote is always in favor of government. If this is democracy then I think that maybe we have misunderstood the true meaning of the word.
John J. Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:41
First, you should read the constitution (yeah right!) if you wish to speak intelligently about the role of the speaker. Second, as I told another reader, if you want an election you'll just have to wait a year and a half like a good boy and hope that Muscat doesn't screw things up for your party like Alfred Sant did the last time round.
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 4th 2011, 21:43
Democracy does not work like that ... first government has to loose confidence in parliament, then and only then is election called. This is what happened in 1998 and what happens in every country when the government feels that he no longer has a majority in parliament.
Savior Chetcuti
Nov 4th 2011, 21:54
Meta Mintoff ivvota kontra il-gvern ta' Alfred Sant ghajjartuh traditur u ma nafx x'izjed. Issa qed tinfiskaw ghax id-deputati Nazzjonalisti se jivvutaw favur il-gvern ta' Gonzi? Vera qeghdin sew!
David Aquilina
Nov 5th 2011, 02:27
Why Stephen, if it had to be the other way round and PL in power do you think that the speaker at that time would not cast his vote in favour of PL? Get a grip!
Angus Black
Nov 4th 2011, 21:21
Dr Gonzi did the most honourable thing a statesman could do under the circumstances. A one seat majority and he seeks a vote of confidence is courageous, decent and far reaching. It's a case of telling Franco nicely, to 'fish or cut bait'.
It dashes the hopes of the Labour Party who on surface pines for an election, but deep inside knows very well that it is not ready to govern. Let's face it, Karmenu Vella is still writing its electoral programme and Joseph fumbles every time he is asked what Labour's policies are, because he has none.
The more we see of Dr Gonzi, the more we appreciate those pair of steady hands.
M. Zammit
Nov 4th 2011, 21:38
Like (as on fb)
A Dimech
Nov 4th 2011, 21:47
I like this! I want to see more of Gonzi too!!!!!!
Sabrina Grech
Nov 4th 2011, 21:48
How about recalling, for the benefit of those with a certain degree of intellect, that Hon. Debono had already proposed this himself, whilst already stating that he would vote in favour?
mark borg
Nov 4th 2011, 22:42
The sentence you ended your pointless argument, is sounding like you and Dr Gonzi are some lovers !
Gej b appreciate those par idejn sodi !
G Schembri
Nov 5th 2011, 06:13
Joseph Muscat who is in opposition might not know or not want to show all his policies.
Gonzi as Prime Minister, says one thing and does the opposite - four months ago he said we would be having a very good public transport = and look what we got.
Monica Muscat
Nov 4th 2011, 21:20
Well, we all knew where we were heading! Kept it up Dr. Gonzi. The majority is still behind you. I will not wish you Good Luck! Luck has nothing to do with this case. Common sense does! I know the saying that common sense is not so common, but trust that there is enough on the PN side to outweight the PL.
Jeff Kawki
Nov 4th 2011, 21:16
Sur Prim Ministru, il-vot ta' fiducja mhux fil-parlament itolbu ima mal poplu malti kollu billi s-sejah elezzjoni kemm jista jkun malajr!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 4th 2011, 21:57
1 year and a half more ...
Lawrence Fenech
Nov 5th 2011, 04:24
@Aquilina.
Sena u nofs jghaddu, il-PN ghandu biex jibza mill-elezzjoni li imiss ghax ser jinzel hu u jigbed il-kullhadd mieghu. Is-siggu li iddobba f'satejn zejda ilu li tilfu mit-2008 meta ha Euro 500 fil-fimgha u lilek tak 1 euro 16 cents. Dan barra il-praspar kollha li irnexxilu jghamel.
A Dimech
Nov 4th 2011, 21:13
tinsewx li l'ikbar wedgha elletoralli li Gonzi ghamel kienet - Par idejn sodi!!!
huwa impossibli li nibqghu nghixu f'din l'instabilita'. Ghajjat elezjoni!
B Ellul
Nov 4th 2011, 21:37
hehe Gonzi <> Sant!
Joseph E Briffa
Nov 4th 2011, 22:35
Hallina Dimech.......
D. Xerri
Nov 4th 2011, 21:09
The Prime Minister is doing this for a Show-Off ! Dr Gonzi Knows Well that his government is Unstable as everyone knows. The More Dr Gonzi goes on with these tactics is the more people will realize how Power Hungry he and his party are and also considering that PN`s interest comes before Malta`s interest - Doing all and whatever it takes to stay in power !
Dr Gonzi had the wonderful chance to do the Show-Off when Dr Austin Gatt offered his resignation !!! But our Prime Minister Threw Away that Chance ! That was the Moment Dr Gonzi to show us Your Par-Idejn-Sodi !!
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 4th 2011, 22:01
Dr.Gonzi took part of the blame ... that is what a true leader does; if one failes, we all fail as a team and as a team we try to fix the situation ... But I am sure you cannot understand such a thing ... Within Labour the general opinion is that their leaders (Sant and his sidekick Joseph Muscat) ARE infallible!!!
David John
Nov 4th 2011, 22:47
@ Joseph Aquilina.
Nahseb li Gonzi izjed ghamel bhal JPO meta kien akkuzat bl-iskandlu tad-diskoteka u qaghad jibki biex jiekseb is-simpatija tal-poplu u ta' shabu il-membri parlamentari Nazzjonalisti.
M.Dolores Vassallo
Nov 4th 2011, 21:08
Dr.Gonzi il-VOT tal kunfidenza itolbu lil POPLU mhux 34 persuna tal parlament.
B Ellul
Nov 4th 2011, 21:37
ehe... in due course!
Martin Cassar
Nov 4th 2011, 22:00
Ghad baqalek ftit xtistenna, Mela l'Gonzi hsibtu sant jarmi ix-xugaman qabel jibda jilghab!.
Liza Zarb
Nov 4th 2011, 21:06
Bli gara lejla ighid x ighid gonzi, xorta tilef il -ftit sahha li kellu gol -parlament. U gatt messu fl-ewwel seduta jirezenja.
Mela nesa gonzi kemm fenech adami kien jghajjar lil Dr Alfred Sant li qed isalva il-vot tieghu bil-casting vote tal-speaker. ISSA INSEJTU DAN.
Insomma taghmlu x taghmlu poplu jaf li ghana gvern ghajjien, bla ideat u qed jistenna biex fi tmun jiehu Il-gvern Dr Muscat biex imexxi l-pajjiez bil-ghaqal biex b'hekk il-pajjiz jerga iqum fuq saqajh u il-haddiem jerga jiehu ruh.
Joseph E Briffa
Nov 4th 2011, 22:37
Oops ...issa ghaxxaqta!
michael catania
Nov 4th 2011, 21:02
maybe we should have a vote of confidence in the the speaker, afterall this is the second time he saved his conservative masters .WHAT A WIMP
Joseph Camilleri
Nov 5th 2011, 02:12
actually the Speaker is bound to vote the way he did. Perhaps you should do a bit of research before jumping to conclusions.
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Nov 4th 2011, 20:59
The charade at the public`s expense goes on and on.......................nobody is taking this farce seriously....only those who are munching, remain munching....; those disillusioned, stay so....but the Voice of the People will be heard: stop making a circus out of Parliament!!
M.O. Micallef
Nov 4th 2011, 21:18
...the cherry on the cake would be you Emmy.
Martin Saliba
Nov 4th 2011, 22:43
@M.O.M. If only our present mp's had the balls to call a spade a spade as Dr. Bezzina does.
H. Psaila
Nov 5th 2011, 08:12
At least it is a circus Dr. Bezzina but not a zoo as it was in the Labour era . Did you forget Dr. Bezzina, the yelling and shouting plus the physical threats that happened during in those days.
Paul Caruana
Nov 4th 2011, 20:57
Role on election day. I know were my vote will go. I honestly hope that the Maltese are now aware of the Hippocratic manner this country is being administered.
All those millions up in smoke on a disastrous bus service and the Minister is still there, supported by most of his colleagues !!!!! unbelievable. ONLY IN MALTA
Victor Laiviera
Nov 4th 2011, 20:55
Dr Gonzi should seek a vote of confidence from the people who REALLY matter - the electorate.
J Busuttil
Nov 4th 2011, 21:11
How Thirsty
H. Psaila
Nov 4th 2011, 21:14
Wow you are so eager for your party to get into power is it? But you still have to wait for an election. Hu pacenzja jew inkella ikkripa.
John J. Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:21
Sorry but you'll just have to wait another year and a half like a good boy and hope that Joseph Muscat doesn't blow it at the last moment like Alfred Sant did last time round.
Mr Tommy Vella
Nov 4th 2011, 21:29
You're saying that MPs don't REALLY MATTER? BOTH sides of the house?
A. Agius
Nov 4th 2011, 21:30
Dr Gonzi does not have the guts, and they love their seats too much!!
John J. Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:37
Mistoqsija: Ghalfejn dan il-genn kollhu biex jigvernaw? Risposta: Ghax izjed ma nsiru nafu lil Joseph Muscat izjed nindunaw li jiswiex habba.
Ms.D. Galea
Nov 4th 2011, 21:48
Hu pacenzja u stenna sena w nofs ohra.
Kollox f'hinu
Michael Seychell
Nov 4th 2011, 22:07
Victor he will do just that at the appropriate time - and believe it or not by that time we will have another celebration.
Michael Seychell
Tal-Pieta
B Ellul
Nov 4th 2011, 22:37
Victor
The electorate will decide in a years time. Ghalxejn int u shabek teqirdu u tahlu lis-spazju billi tiktbu vil-vojt. I think u and especially u should find a hobby ghax ha timrad tistenna li forsi jaqa il PN...
G Schembri
Nov 5th 2011, 06:00
@ Tommy Vella MPs or puppets on a string?
Mr Tommy Vella
Nov 5th 2011, 08:39
@ G Schembri
Are you meaniung the ones who said that they would vote against divorce and then voted yes along party lines even though it was not a party issue?
A. Cachia
Nov 4th 2011, 20:50
Jekk Dr Muscat qed jistenna xi sorpriza jista ma johlomx....ghax nafu x'ser jigri :)
A Dimech
Nov 4th 2011, 20:55
x'ser jigri?!
Andrew Cumbo
Nov 4th 2011, 20:47
Kompli ghaddi zmien bin nies Sur Prim Ministru. Issa igib il- maggoranza assoluta f'din il- mozzjoni u tohrog tghidilna li ghandek partit maqghud u minghajr problemi.
Issa drajna b' din il- kummiedja.
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 4th 2011, 22:05
The Prime Minister is doing what is good for the country!! A confidence vote will show people like you and the rest of the world (including potential investors) that an election has more then a year and a half to come...
Mr Sandro Cremona
Nov 4th 2011, 20:45
Daksek thaqtu bija ministri.. issa immur nara zoo minflok.. mil llum il quddiem jien nastjeni.. ara tithqu bil poplu biss.. kem deret ecitanti diretta mil parlament... LIVE mill ARKIVJI... kemm inhossni cuc li insegwi.
M. Zammit
Nov 4th 2011, 20:44
J'Alla jaqa l-gvern u jitla Joseph ghax mill-ewwel nircievu lura refund fuq il-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma, refund fuq il-vat tal-karozzi godda li hargu bejn it-2004 u t-2007 (kif qishom intesew dawn?) u jkollna l-aqwa ekonomija tad-dinja fejn kulhadd jahdem, qaghad xejn. etc. U forsi ma tafux kif u l-paga tirdoppja fi zmien qasir, u ma joghola xejn aktar anzi jorhsu
Irringrazzjaw 'l Alla ja boloh ma tarawx kemm hawn ghaks fid-dinja, u ahna kulhadd jew kwazi jghix komdu, qaghad xi 6% biss u certu pajjizi l-qaghad qabez l-20%. We have never had it so good
Jon Briffa
Nov 4th 2011, 21:08
kwazi kullhadd jghix komdu? Ghid il-dawk li qieghdin jahdmu gas down b'2 jobs minn filodu kmieni sa tard bil-lejl ghax paga wahda ma tlahhaqx.
Komdi imma, kieku it-taxxi ma jkomplux jghollew b'konsegwenza tal-miljuni u miljuni li qed jintefqu bl-addocc f'kuntratti u konsulenti... u hawn insemmu 3 ezempji kbar; Mater Dei, Power Station u Arriva.
m. borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:19
"... u ahna kulhadd jew kwazi jghix komdu..."
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L-unika sentenza li ghidt bis-sens, ghaliex qed tirreferi ghal "ahna" tal-klikka u kwazi tfisser hafna u tfisser ukoll li sakem int ghaddej tajjeb ghadej tajjeb kulhadd.
Biex tippruvaw tiddefendu l-indifensibli tispiccaw iccartu l-maskra ta' ipokresija li ghandkom.
M camilleri
Nov 4th 2011, 21:24
issa nivutaw PN ta sabih
David John
Nov 4th 2011, 21:28
Ahna ghadna nistennew it-tnaqqis tat-taxxa ta' dik il-weghda li ma nafx kemm il-sena li ilu li ghamlilna Gonzi. Mela has semmi l-vat ta' Joseph Muscat. Int veru Nazzjonalist inkallat ma ghandekx xi tghid. Kif qatt ma tinbidlu? Hudu ezempju minn Franco Debono u irragunaw li fejn hu hazin hu hazin u fejn hu tajjeb hu tajjeb. Ma tridx tghid li din tal-Arriva kienet xi success ukol Sur Zammit? Mela iftah mohhok
M. Zammit
Nov 4th 2011, 22:13
X'tippreferi sur David John, tnaqqis fit-taxxa jew jonqsu l-impjiegi. U jekk inti wasalt biex thallas bir-rata tal-35% (la tridha tonqos) sinjal li ghandek paga mhux hazin. Ftakar fil-pajjizi barranin fejn it-taxxi, il-Vat qed joghlew u pensjonijiet u pagi jonqsu mentri l-hajja ghalihom xorta qed tghola. Tkellem ma' barranin, informa ruhek, u ara x'dizastru ekonomiku hawn kwazi fid-dinja kollha. M'hawn l-ebda pajjiz perfett, u l-krizi ekonomika tolqot lil kulhadd. F'dan il-kaz, Malta is not an island u tigi milquta wkoll. Pero hdejn haddiehor m'ahniex daqshekk hazin.
Liam Gauci
Nov 4th 2011, 20:43
In the meantime, while this endless farce unfolds, our once-proud country suffers under the heel of an EU that is insensitive to the problems of its smallest member state.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Nov 4th 2011, 20:53
Still against the EU?
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Alfred Cassar
Nov 4th 2011, 20:41
Now let all our MP's vote for a Government who managed to keep us in quite a good shape considering the situation in other countries in Europe, Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, UK, and even the USA.
Others are having decrease in pensions, decrease in salaries, huge austerity measures and so many sacrifices, while we are still retaining our standard of living, though yes we are also making some sacrifices as well because of this global situation.
Yes let's vote for a Government that kept the unemployment level so low and had worked so hard to keep jobs for Maltese. Well done PN, well done Dr Gonzi
Ruben Hili
Nov 4th 2011, 20:48
Well said Alfred Cassar.
Frans Aguis
Nov 4th 2011, 20:57
We could keep our high standard of living through the high taxes we pay brought about by our socialist system.
m. borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:16
Why call on the MPs mr. Cassar why not the people?
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My question beckons an answer if you have one .
Mr Stephen Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:31
Mr Alfred Cassar.
You surely cannot expect the government to reduce the wages of Maltese workers as our wages are way below standard when compared to wages in other European Countries. Of course that our unemployment rate is very low considering that the average Maltese worker has a yearly income of 15000 euros, who would not invest in a cheap labour country like Malta. Our austerity measures are neatly hidden in the price of fuels and in energy tariffs because as the price of crude oil goes down the price of fuels in Malta goes up. I still cannot believe that I am reading comments like yours in 2011.
S Cachia
Nov 4th 2011, 21:36
Others are having decrease in pensions, decrease in salaries, huge austerity measures and so many sacrifices, while we are still retaining our standard of living, though yes we are also making some sacrifices as well because of this global situation.
what you didn't mention was the cause of their decrease in pensions and austerity measures. You didn't mention the extreme corruption and tax evading rampant in those countries. We have corruption yes but most of us pay our taxes. And if you didn't notice the standard of living is falling. just take the price hike of daily consumable essential products... fuel, water, electricity, gas, food. A simple bottle of soft drink pre-euro used to cost 25c (maltese) now it costs 1 eur (if you are lucky enough to find it that low) i.e. 42c (maltese). this is only one simple example.
JESMOND PACE
Nov 4th 2011, 20:39
Keep trying PL - maybe next time or the next or the next or the next .... but maybe.
Mr Sandro Cremona
Nov 4th 2011, 20:45
Tantx tithaq my friend... ma hemx biex jamlu l-arja
Andrew Cumbo
Nov 4th 2011, 21:00
Yes maybe, because PN won last election with a majority of 100,000 votes, and everything is plain sailing!!!
Jeffrey Mallia
Nov 4th 2011, 20:39
Austin Gatt satisfied ??? Really ???
m. borg
Nov 4th 2011, 20:37
Of corse Austin Gatt is satisfied with the out come as a minister he would keep his €500 a week wage increase, something he'd have lost if he resigned.
Jeffrey Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 21:19
I think that franco debono and any lawyer of the stature of Dr Austin Gatt is worth more than €500 a week. Any self employed person would earn even more than €500. Would I be exaggerating if we say that a minister should earn €35,000 per annum?
This reasoning shows that any minister should earn that wage, because his only employment is as a minister, he can’t practice his profession while he is minister.
We don’t know the PL’s stand on this matter.
Joseph Aquilina
Nov 4th 2011, 21:46
You complain about the 500 a week, but have nothig to say regarding the 20,000 a month MEP (inc. PL) do in Europe out of your taxes as well ... I think your dear Joseph had a similar wage once in the EU!! ... but that is ok as long as it's labour right!!
JESMOND PACE
Nov 4th 2011, 20:36
The plan to topple the government - failed once again - Gaddafi PL has to wait some more and more and more and more and more....
A Dimech
Nov 4th 2011, 20:52
Yes - in deed; without majority.
R Axisa
Nov 4th 2011, 20:36
I'm sure that Franco will this time give his confidence vote for the government! But that won't solve the problem!
kevin sammut
Nov 4th 2011, 20:35
Ma nafx il ghala hawn min qed jehoda bi kbira u jitkaza ghax Franco ivota skond il kuxjenza tieghu u zamm kelmtu bhux bhall hadt iehor . mela nsejna meta l Prim Ministru ivota skond il kuxjenza tieghu u mar kontra rieda tal poplu fir referendum kontra divorzju . nahseb kien ta min jitkaza u jehoda bi kbira izjed dak inhar hux .Dan Pajjiz demokratiku kul hadt iparla kif jaqbel lilu . fl ahhar mil ahhar l-irgulija tirbah dejjem u l arroganza titlef u thamarlek wiccek . issa f'idejk Poplu li tideccidi min jixtieq l- ahjar ghalik u ghalija . Kevin Sammut
Lawrence Fenech
Nov 4th 2011, 20:35
Din tfakkarni fl-iskandlu tat-ticketing machines.
Issa forsi jerga jghamila la isir il-vot ta fiducja.
Franco Debono and friends please note.
Alfred Vassallo
Nov 4th 2011, 20:34
Prime Minister seeks vote of confidence
Farsa Kbira.
A. Borg
Nov 4th 2011, 20:32
Kummiedja fi tlett atti qabel il-Budget.
A. Cachia
Nov 4th 2011, 20:55
ma stajtx spjegajta ahjar....
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Nov 4th 2011, 20:28
Sfida ohra lil Franco Debono.
Joseph E Briffa
Nov 4th 2011, 20:32
Franco Debono diga qal li ser jivvota mal-partit kemm fil-Budget u kemm f'vot ta' fiducja fil-gvern. Hu qal li l-konflitt tieghu kien biss ma' Austin Gatt mhux mal-partit.
Victor Vella
Nov 4th 2011, 20:35
Iva Malcolm ha naraw lill dan xse jghamel issa,
Alfred Grech
Nov 4th 2011, 20:27
The confidence vote will be a FREE vote but before the vote, the PM will gather his group and instructs them to vote in favour of the government, otherwise, it's a free vote. Let's see if there will be other NP MP who will follow Franco Debono's example and rid Malta of this administration.
R Zammit
Nov 4th 2011, 20:27
If Gonzi were confident about his government he should put this in the people's hands and not his lackeys.