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Updated: Franco Debono says he will abstain in vote on no confidence motion

PM expects all Nationalist MPs to vote against

Video: Mark Zammit Cordina

Nationalist MP Franco Debono is standing his ground and will abstain during Friday’s no confidence motion in Transport Minister Austin Gatt, he said this evening.

Contacted after Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi this evening said that unless an amendment to Labour’s motion was presented, he expected all Nationalist MPs to vote against, Dr Debono said that the situation was inconceivable and he could not understand it.

“Shouldering responsibility should be interpreted to mean the established and accepted standards of political practice accepted in all other EU countries, especially where public funds are involved.

“We should not reinvent the wheel. It is also in the interest of the EU to monitor the situation and see how it is being handled,” he said.

Dr Gonzi had also proposed this evening, the setting up of a joint parliamentary committee to oversee the public transport reform and ensure that the system is perfected if the Labour Party accepted to postpone its motion of no confidence in Dr Gatt.

Dr Debono asked why such a parliamentary committee had not been set up when the reform was being drawn up.

He also pointed out that it was worrying that in a Parliament in 2011, a debate which was of interest to practically all the population could not be followed by the electorate on visual media.

“This is unacceptable in a European Parliament in 2011,” he said.

When speaking about the motion while closing the annual general meeting of the party's youth section, Dr Gonzi had said he wanted Labour's motion to be amended to become a positive one that was typical of the Nationalist Party, rather than a negative one that was typical of Labour.

He said that the party's executive council would be meeting again tomorrow and if there was no agreement on such an amendment, he expected all Nationalist MPs to vote against Labour's.

During the meeting, the MZPN approved a motion which acknowledged that there were shortcomings in the public transport system but it also recognised that positive changes had been made. The motion urged MPs to vote against Labour's "opportunistic" motion.

Dr Gonzi said he fully supported this motion.

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Joe Fenech

Nov 4th 2011, 09:17

Pero tibzax ghax f'Malta hemm hafna jobs u l-ekonomijia hija fenomenali. Grazzi ghall-kbir u qaddis Gonzi.

Robert Camilleri

Nov 4th 2011, 12:45

ghaziz sur fenech sibt job iehor ta!! imma l aktar paga hija ta 3 euros fis siegha!!! ghal dik il il paga fil kaz imur jahdem il kbir u qaddis il gonz tieghek!! int qieghed tparla siehbi ghax sinjal li sablek xi job tajjeb il gonz :) iftah ghajnejk habib !! u ma nahsibx li tmur b l arriva int ix xoghol

Mario Grima

Nov 4th 2011, 00:11

Wow, your detective instincts and prowness, besides your bias are second to none. Prosit bravu.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:14

BOOH!

Deo Catania

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:14

ara kif tridna nimxu 'l quddiem b'nies bhalek, Nazzjonalist pur, l-aqwa l-pappa u l-poplu erhilu jbati.

Mario Grima

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:26

Ghal li jista jkun ma ghandekx xi Jaguar ukoll u forsi bix- xufier maghha u skond int ghandna biss il-problema ta l-Arriva?

Mela il-problema tal-korruzzjoni rampanti fil-pajjiz, il- frodi tal-VAT, iz-zieda li ha il PM u il-kabinett bil-mohbi, il-biljetti b'xejn li ha Tonio Fenech, l-arroganza ta Austin, il- waiting list ta Mater Dei, il-froga tal Care Workers, il-kontijiet ezagerati tad-dawl u l-ilma, l-ekonomija stagnata (kliem John Dalli) etc.... etc...

Who is a looser. Forsi il Pl mhux ser jaghmel mirakli imma ma jkollox kabinet ta minghajr sugu (kliem Gonzi).

J Busuttil

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:48

Mario Grima il PL ikollu pajjiz qrib il-falliment you just wait and see time will tell il-PN forsi ghandu kabinett minghajr sugu imma il- PL mandu lill had kapaci jilqa ghall lis-sfidi tal- ekonomija f'din il-krizi mondjali.

R. Gauci

Nov 3rd 2011, 17:48

"what a bunch of loosers :)........issa bili jitla il PL ???? ser jamel xi miraklu ????? .....enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyy"

Jason mela allura naqbdu u naghmlu partit wiehed go Malta u ma nbiddluh qatt, in a way kif gara fl-ahhar 25 sena ghax dan jitla min jitla ma jaghmilx mirakli. Id-demokrazija dik li tirrikjedi, li jkollok l-ghazla li tbiddel.

Philip Hili

Nov 4th 2011, 00:54

Prosit Jason!!

dr. emails ifaqqa' subajh u jigi kollox!!!!

anthony farrugia

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:14

Wishfull thinking. I am sure that you are to be very disappointed come this weekend. You already had several disappointments so be prepared.

R. Gauci

Nov 3rd 2011, 15:47

U fl-inkiwet li dahlu lilna fih bis-shubija fl-UE u bl-ewro? Flok nigu mghejjuna qed nispiccaw nohorgu, anzi niddejnu, l-miljuni ghal haddiehor?

Joseph Aquilina

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:08

R. Gauci stop showing how said being a labour supporter is!! Everyone (even your party leader) told you that Malta would be a failed country if we where not in EU and EURO during this crises!! However it seems that more than 10 years of superone tv can kill more brain cells then smoking 2 packs of cigarettes and drinking 2 bottles a day!! A really big pity!! Was hoping more from PL ... or should I say Labour!!!

Deo Catania

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:17

Joseph Aquilina, seems quite obvious your one of the friends of friends of gonzipn.

R. Gauci

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:17

Mela Malta mhux lejn falliment mixja Guz, ma nahsibx li int tifhem aktar minn Moody's. Kif konnha nkunu barra hadd ma jaf, li nafu hu li gewwa mhux sejrin tajjeb u hemm pajjizi li qed iberraq jibqawx fl-UE bhall-Ingilterra fejn sahansitra hemm cans li jissejjah referendum fuq hekk.

Mr Lawrence Calleja

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:28

@R. Gauci: Sa fejn naf jien il-PL illum qed jghid li hu favur l-Ewropa u li biddel il-politika tieghu. Jidher imma li din inbidlet biss fuq il-karta u ghall ghajn in-nies u l-voti.

R. Gauci

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:42

Sur Calleja jien nitkellem f'ismi mhux f'isem il-PL, dak jaghmel affarih, jien nghid li nhoss. Jekk int mort tajjeb fl-UE u ma kellekx tohrog lill-mara tahdem biex tlahhaq mal-hajja ghax l-income tieghi naqas good luck to you imma nista ngerger bla ma nigi attakkat hux??

Joseph Aquilina

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:45

@Deo Catanja
I am not, indeed if you knew me you would know how much critical I am of PN!! In fact I do support what Franco Debono is doing as long as this does not turn out to be black mail. However facts are facts and that Malta with the Lira would be in much more trouble is a fact.

"fl-UE bhall-Ingilterra fejn sahansitra hemm cans li jissejjah referendum fuq hekk. "

btw - didn't super one update you that no such referendum will be done? Aaaaa ... good news regarding the EU are not shown there right?

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111024/world/cameron-pleads-with-mps-against-eu-referendum.390638

R. Gauci

Nov 3rd 2011, 17:05

Beda jberraq mela kif ghidt, ghadu ma berraqx wahda tajba that's it. Ha jkollna Grecja ohra u naraw, taf anke tkun il-gara taghna ta` l-Italja .j'Alla le ghax inbatu maghhom, imma mhux fiducjuz kif sejrin l-affarijiet.

A. Schembri

Nov 3rd 2011, 15:35

True and very well said mr.A Dimech

Joseph Aquilina

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:22

PN has many bad things!! AND IT WOULD BE GOOD THAT THEY FIX THEM. However I would still never vote PL. PL is not a party. It is a religious movement where Dr.Sant is seen as a god and Joseph Muscat his child miraculously conceived in his mother's womb!! Indeed the Gospel is either according to Joseph or Sant himself!! This is not a party that should be in power, but a party that should reform itself!!

anthony farrugia

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:24

I think you make a better leader than Joseph Muscat as he has no policies on most topics for our country to discuss at present.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:41

@ Joseph Aquilina -
I never said PN has "bad things" - I said he needs to renew itself. I would consider start to re-vot for PN if they do this. Leave all the other emotional out - it adds ZERO value

@ Anthony Farrugia - I think Joseph Muscat is doing well. He manage to unite PL - don't forget that PL was in shambles before Joseph took helm. He also has good ideas, and is energetic and flexible. We need those qualities.

But we need both parties to be a tip toe condition - and PN is not at the moment.



Jeffrey Borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 20:22

The problem is that the MLP , Pl is even worse than Alfred Sant’s New Labour, it’s been hijacked with a bunch of re-threaded old ministers from Dom Mintoff’s and KMB’s golden eras!
I would rather have a few well chosen candidates who are not only popular but also loyal and qualified in the PN.
Gonzi is the right man at the right time , he’s a problem solver and avoided a lot of trouble ,safe pair of hands still befits him. He proved himself time and again .
Would I dump this able prime minister for someone who’s all smiles and no substance?

Henry S. Pace

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:45

@ Frans Said

I do think that philip Hili comes from Floriana (Sic)

Brian Gatt

Nov 3rd 2011, 15:21


@ Philip Hili

Feeling the Pinch ehh Mr PN lackey !!!!!

You are not winning agruments, you are just trying to deviate from them by mentioning other issues !!!! Very Much PN style of Politics, if they dont agree with you either demonize them or just ignore them

Philip Hili

Nov 4th 2011, 01:01

@ Brian Gatt.

Oh!! you are right!!! My comment should have been on Dr. Emails and Ms Sabrian Agius!! Please do not shift this problem by engaging it on Dr. Austin Gatt.

Why Dr. Muscat felt it necessary to do such bad thing? Is he our future prime minister? Mamma Mia!! X'wahx ser ikolna jekk dan il-meskin jiehu r-riedni tal-pajjiz f'idejh!!!! Bis-Surper One u forsi b'xi gazzetta ohra b'ingliz mhux moghqdi?? Irid izjed??

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:23

x'ghandu x'jaqsam? booh

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:39

"Ara kemm hawn esperti li jifhmu hafna fil-politika" - people are actually the experts as they will ultimately be voting....

that is the first principle you should learn!

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:53

You can have his gift wraped for Christmas or put him on the top of the Christmas Tree, replacing the angel. He is a tubborn big head taking the people for a ride as having said he will re-introduce the direct routes, he hasd still not provided SPB with a proper service. The rouytes he offered are a leg pull. We want the old 49 & 58 passing roughly from the same route which can be done, but there are firces and spite at work.

Do not forget that a minister is there for the people not the other way round.

If Gonzi and his friends want to save the govet they have to eat humble pie. Ask Austin to resign before Friday. Thus the debate will become superflous. BUT THEN, Austin willmioss the Piano GLORY, because it was due to the Piano monstrosity that all Malta suffered great hardship, and all this at meagre cost of 400 million.

By the way, since when have you become an expert yourself?

Philip Hili

Nov 4th 2011, 01:08

@ A Dimech.

x'ghandu x'jaqsam? Ha nghidlek x'ghandu x'jaqsam. Ghax il-PL nies zlejali jrid u mhux nies ta' stoffa! Issa jekk trid tkun taf min huma dawn in-nies hares harsa ma' dwarek u tkun taf. Dejjem jekk qieghed tghid hawn Malta!! Meta dawk li kienu zlejali lejn il-Partit Nazzjonalista hadu puzizzjoni li ma ghogbitx lil-PL, dawn it-talin ma baqghux jaqilghu it-tifhir u l-inces minn ghand xi wiehed bhalek!!! Issa jekk lil Dr. Carmelo Caruana ma tiftakurx, ghalaq halqek please ghax ma tistax tikkummenta.

Philip Hili

Nov 4th 2011, 01:23

@ FRANS H SAID

Sur said, titkellimlix tqil ghax ma nifhimx!!! please.

You better explain your comment because as far as I am concerned I stated facts which probably you are not aware of due to your tender age!!

Kemm ghandi ghatx!!!, ahjar nibghat xi email halli nara kif ser nistejqer!!!!
Ma ghixtx it-terrur u l-biza' ta' gvern laborista, ghalhekk titkellem hekk!!, SWAT, TKISSIR, BIKI , VENDIKAZZJONJIET, TRANSFERS, BULK-BUYING, BACK HANDED MONEY FOR A TELPHONE LINE, BACK HANDED MONEY FOR A COLOUR TV SET - "dear Philip", TRATTAT SIGRIET KIM-LI-SUNG!!!

Dawn semmilhom lill-qarrejja halli tiffriska l-memorja tal-qarreja x'kienet tfisser il-hakma tar-regim laborista!! Dawn fatti mhux tpeclieq fil-vojt. Jekk segwejt program fuq wiehed mill-istazzjonijiet lokali (ahjar hekk ghax inkella l-messagg ma jasalx) dwar xoghol ta' XI WHUD mill-pulizija ta' zmien ir-regim, TITWERWER!!!!

Pauline Busuttil

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:19

naqbel mieghek u inhossni imweggha li l'PM ma laqax r-rizenja ta' Austin Gatt. L'irgiel veru hekk jaghmlu iktar u iktar meta jkollok kariga bhala Ministru. Wara kollox jien nahseb li gid issir lill Partit Nazzjonalista b'din ir-rizenja ghax hemm hafna garr fuq il Ministru Gatt minn ta gewwa ukoll.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:22

he has mishandled the Divorce issue as well. If PN has to have any chance of fighting next election, they ought to act now and get a new leader. He looks tired and outdated to me.

B Attard

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:15

Agreed But The PM can't get rid of Austin and Co they seem to be stuck and bonded together.

edgar rossignaud

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:37

@David Grixti. i don't believe that Government will not 'fall' if PL motion is passed. This is NOT a financial or monetary motion, and all that could happen would be Gatt will be asked to resign from Minister, not from MP - maybe Franco Debono then takes his place and solve all the problems.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:19

David - all that Gonzi should hav done was to accept Gatt's resignation... and we move on. It is the culture of responsability and accountability.

Gonzi is not showing leadership and flexibility like EFA used to. He lost the leadership.

a. xuereb

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:44

scrap them , the p.n. will have nothing senseable left..

Philip Hili

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:57

AGREE WITH YOU

Philip Hili

Nov 4th 2011, 01:24

@ a. xuereb

You are very much mistaken mr xuereb!!

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:41

agreed - Gonzi is bringing this on himself by being stubborn. or perhaps he is fed up.

I think Debono is right. If you have done wrong, you should be expected to resign. Full stop. I don't understand this "hanging to power" business - when actually the little hanging to power is in danger of putting the whole system within PN belly up.

It is Stubbornness of the first kind. If Gatt do the honourable thingand say "apologies to the commutors for pain caused, and I am resigning" people would applaud him once again.

Under Sant - Mangion was made to resign without any issues...just because he had a conflict of interest

Fenech MD

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:02

Ms Debono

Jien ukoll ninsab ottimist, li xi darba jkollna leader iehor bhal ma kellna f'Dr Eddie Fenech Adami.

Sakemm jibqa' Dr Gonzi kollox jibqa' kif inhu. Infakkrek li Dr Gatt DIGA ta r-rizenja tieghu, imma Dr Gonzi m'accettahiex.

Dr Gonzi ma jemminx f'dil-kultura u ghalhekk qed johloq firda anke bejnietna n-Nazzjonalisti.

Appell sincier anke minghandi: Dr Gonzi warrab minn nofs in-nies li qed jaghmlu hsara/jaqsmu lil partit, ghax wisq nibza' li elezzjoni ohra se niehdu tkaxkira nobis.

Fil-PN hemm bzonn bidla. U jekk il-PM mhux kapaci jaghmilha, allura jmissu jaghmel il-wisgha ghal min hu kapaci jerga' jaqqghad il-partit kif kien taht Dr Eddie Fenech Adami.

Kuragg



raymond scicluna

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:52

By any chance are you a relative of Dr Debono, Ms Debono? Grazzi

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:42

bil kuntrarju; dik kient l ghazla tal poplu.. partit gid b'nies zaghzuha b ideat moderni ta demokrazija..imma f'Malta il kelma Demokrazia ma naghfux x tfisser, ghax maghndniex kelma Maltija imma Taljana

Philip Hili

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:59

@ Rachel Borg

Mhux tal-biki biss izda tad-daqqiet ta' harta, u tal-genn!! Esortajna prodott tajjeb biex importajna l-laqx!!!!

Joseph M. Saliba

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:59

Franco Debono is responsible for his constituents and that is democracy. U Halluna. Well done Franco show them you have guts and stick to your guns now. Others will join you. We can't go on with a type of arrogance and ministers trampling on people and the so called consultants earning millions of euros from the taxes we pay. Did Austin Gatt found Delia on the Yellow Pages as well??????????????

Philip Hili

Nov 4th 2011, 01:28

@Joseph M. Saliba

Imma ghala tiehdu ghalikom meta jghidulkom OQBRA MBAJDA, jew ILPUP LIBSIN TA' HRIEF?? Dawn huma zewg kwotazzjonijiet mill-bibja li qoqghodulkom hafna!!!

Kontx xi wiehed li min jaf kemm ghajjartu li dan il-fidil!!

U hallina Zuz....

raymond scicluna

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:51

You forgot another one Friend. Mr Jesmond Mugliett cause the latter likes to create storms in a teacup. His big present cry is the black dust of the power station!!!As if the present power station did not emit any black dust when he was the minister responsible. All of them need to get a life away from politics.

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:43

in my opinion he will not abstaein, this is becoming a pink soap opera..

M Borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:41

@ A Mifsud

Wrong,

I am sure that the " electorate who put him in power " did not put him there in the hope that one day he would topple the Government. They must have voted for him because they wanted him to work for the good of NP

Why did they vote NP in the first place if ultimately their aim was elect an MP that will be the cause of the present Governmant resigning?

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:47

Very well said Mr. Attard.. but nothing will be don about it, like the rest. This arrogance of the PN ha reached limits we have never seen before.
The Divorce referendum was a clear sign. After spending Euor5million + the PM bluntlly said, I could not care less, and will vote according to my principles..to hell what the people want! Then they mention JPO and FD egos!!! Where else can we go, when the PM thinks he owns the country instead of being an employee of the people that voted...

Philip Hili

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:29


@ Mr A. Mifsud.

Could you please stop taking us for a ride? In a matter of seconds, you contradicted yourself because your aim is to criticise. It is for sure that the electorate who elected him never expected this from him!
"The electorate who put him in power are demanding this and he should execute. It's not a matter of being unloyal (disloyal) to his party " First and foremost, the electorate who put him in power did not elected him to hold all the country at ransom! It will be very interesting to know how may of those who trusted him and elected him to represent them in the highest institution of the country expected such behaviour from him!!!

From the many Austin Gatt's involvements you mentioned I am only going to pick one or two, "Shipyards" and "Freeport". Do you call this (shipyards) a flop, or were you one of those who preferred to fork out tax payers' money in order to keep up a bankrupt business? Neither Mr. Dom Mintoff nor any other Labour champion had the guts to solve this problem. Always bla bla bla and when anyone faces reality they stay put. This is reality.
Then you mentioned the "Freeport". Why don't you ask the Freeport employees' whether they have a better future now or when the PL was in office? They are the persons who will give you an answer for your comment and not the man in the street or those who want to take political mileage of this industry.



G. Cachia

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:31

Sur Mifsud,
Iva intant l-entitajiet li kienu jew ghadhom jixorbu flus il-poplu semmejt. Jekk il-hsieb tieghek huwa li tappoggja xi Gvern fil-futur li jerga jibni entitajiet bhal dawn allura lill-poplu Malti u b'mod specjali liz-zaghzagh qed tistedihom ghal futur incert.

Sahha habib u inqas ma' jkollna nies bhalek iktar ahjar.

Philip Hili

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:44

@ victor bonello

Mamma Mia!!!! X'argumenti fqar u tal-biki!!! Possibli li 2011 ghad hawn min jirraguna hekk?

Araw x'kiteb is-sur bonello hbieb:- "The Divorce referendum was a clear sign. After spending Euor5million + the PM bluntlly said, I could not care less, and will vote according to my principles..t"

X'jippretendi is-sur bonello li f'kas importanti bhal dak (tad-divorzju) dak li jkun jigi jaqgha u jqum mill-principju tieghu u jaghmel bhal moghoz??!!! Din hi l-kwalita' ta' tmexxija li qeghdin taspiraw ghall-pajjizna? Fuq kollox, ghax ghandi nohodha bi kbira meta qieghed nesperjenza ezempji ta' immaturita politika minn naha ta' l-oppozizzjoni meta ghadu kif kelna l-kaz ta' l-emails? Hadd ma ghadu jitkellem fuqhom?? Iridu li jintnesew?? Sur Mifsud, ahjar tikkummenta fuq din id-disonesta' politika tal-PL milli fuq dak li inti qieghed issejjahlu flop ta' Dr. Austin Gatt!

victor bonello

Nov 4th 2011, 10:26

@ Philp Hili..
all iexpected from the Divorce referendum result, was the PM who is paid by the people to serve them was that the PM should have said, "although I disagree, it is my DUTY to comply with the wishes of my constiuents" is that to much to ask?

Philip Hili

Nov 7th 2011, 14:31

@ victor bonello

Are you serioius in your comment?

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:51

prosit tar risposta, imma jekk ma tipprovax ma tistax tkun taf.. kif inumha l affarijiet ma nahsibex li nistaw inkunu gharr.. issa naraw is serjeta tal Pn jekk hux ser jerga jixtri pataflun voti billi jghati permessi tal bini qabel lelezzioni.. flahra wahda il Mepa accetta aktar min 1400 premess 24 siegha qabel lelezzioni..

Fenech MD

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:06

Ms Debono,

Veru ma Muscat ma tafx fejn int, ghadu hadd ma ppruvah u mhux ser inkun jien li ntellghu.

Imma meta Dr Gatt offra r-rizenja tieghu, Dr Gonzi m'accettahiex. Allura taqbel ma dan kollu?

Dazgur li l-PN ghamel il-gid; kien il-PN li dahhal lil Malta fl-EU, li ghamel l-MCAST, l-Universita ghal kulhadd etc.

Imma jien qaddisi jghid li l-abjad nghidulu abjad u l-iswed nghidlu iswed. U jien qatt m'ghogbitni l-korruzzjoni.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:54

Have you been reading the "chronicles of Narnia"?

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:45

This is a vote on Austin; Gonzi is making it a vote on teh government. He is committing suicide. Perhaps he is fed up?
If I was a PN supporter I would now be thinking to remove him. Place someone with charisma to re-unite the party;

G Schembri

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:58

If Austin Gatt resigns, another NP MP will take his place. This is a no confidence vote in Austin Gatt and not in the government as a whole. If Franco Debono abstains, Mr Speaker will cast his vote in favour of the government, and Austin Gatt will not have to resign. Franco Debono will only be voicing his voters discomfort.

Francois Pace

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:40

Qed tara kemm ghadna lura f'dan il-pajjiz...........naf li qed taghmel hazin u nerga nivvota ghal hazin!!!!! Pajjiz tal-MICKEY MOUSE!!!!

Ramon Mangion

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:52

Prosit eee. taf li hemm it-tahwid u terga tivvota PN hehehe

D. Xerri

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:03

It-Twegiba Semplici u Ovvja ! Ghax f`kull partit politiku hemm il-Klikkek ta dak u tal-iehor - u min ihokkli dahri inhokklu dahru - u min le inwarrbu ! Tista tkun aktar semplici u ovvja minn hekk !! Meta se jitghallem dal-poplu li l-umani huma l-istess f`kull pajjiz u f`kull sitwazzjoni u l-poter huwa ghodda li kulhadd ihobb biex jilhaq l-iskopijiet tieghu !

Fenech MD

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:55

Jezisti dan it-tahwid ghax il-PN ilu fil-gvern zmien twil, u meta gvern, ikun min ikun jaghmel daz-zmien kollu, jibda jahseb li hadd ma jista' ghalih, bhal ma kien gralu l-LP fis-70s u 80s.

Li tibqa' tivvota PN huwa dritt tieghek. Imma mbaghad toqghodx tgorr kif hawn dan it-tahwid jekk qed taghti l-kunsens tieghek ghalih.

Hawn hafna Nazzjonalisti li qed ihossu, jaraw u jifhmu li l-PN inbidel u m'ghadux il-partit maghqud u demokratiku li kien hawn fi zmien Dr Eddie Fenech Adami. Dak kien veru leader li ma kienx jippermetti buzzullotti bhal dawn.

Dr Gonzi huwa differenti. Jaccetta kollox ghax ma jistax jaghmel mod iehor, ghax ghandu maggoranza ta' siggu wiehed biss fil-parlament. Imma kemm kienu jghidu kontra Sant; lil dak ir-ragel ninzghalu l-kappell ghax ma halla 'l hadd imexxieh minn imniehru. U ghalkemm kien jaf li ser jitlef l-elezzjoni, pprefera jitlifha milli jitlef l-irgulija tieghu, u jidher tifel!

Biex il-PN jinbidel ghandu bzonn imur fl-oppozizzjoni. Ghandu bzonn xokk; u l-iktar importanti ghandu bzonn leader gdid li kapaci imexxi u jiddixxiplina lil ta' madwaru.

Ghamel bhali, jien nazzjonalist kont u nazzjonalist nibqa', imma ma jien se nkun qatt komplici f'dan it-tahwid kollu. U nappellalek li jekk vera qed idejquk dawn l-affarijiet, mhux biss tparla fuqhom, imma tiehu azzjoni.

Bil-vot tieghek.


m. borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:17

Tlumuhx dan wiehed minn ta' gewwa probabli u ma tantx qed ibati taht gonziPN.

Brian Gatt

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:50

@ Joseph Cauchi Senior !!!

You either are not describing Malta or your are living in another dimension.....If we are doing so well how come Moody's downgraded us?

Another Pn Lackey trying to twist the truth - part of the day to day running for the PN ( Jigdbu iktar milli jiehdu nifs)

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:03

did Moody not just downgrade Malta?! sorry - I though you forgot to mention that...

G Schembri

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:05

It seems you use your own transport or else you don't have to be at work on time. A bus arriving late means people get to work late. How would you feels if your employees turned to work late daily? That is our PRIORITIES. The government spent millions of euro to give us a good transport service and what do we get? Better buses and better mannered drivers but the most important aspects - punctuality and practical routes are nowhere to be found.

Leo Bartolo

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:12

@joseph cauchi senior. Your figures are an illusion, just wishful thinking. Please do not try to insult our intelligince

Joseph Cauchi Senior

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:19

@ Brian Gatt,

You forgot to mention Standard & Poor's and Finch!

JC.

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:02

You recount what the media tells us. how many normal people on the road can afford to dposit the 5billion increase? this is exactly it.. the balance of wealth is concentrated to a few Maltese. All the corruption money is being launderd in Malta itself..as for other figures, I have my doubts about who formulates the statistics to achieve those results. I do not trust these statistics. Live and talk to people and see for your self.. you forgot to mention that 30% of th Maltese are livng in povery according to EU standards.. why not be realistic and look at a complete picture?
The PN has done a lot of good, but also a lot of shady deals and some bad.. we cannot glorify evrything they do.. It is time for a change.. Malta wants a change. It is healthy for a change, but I pity the PL if elected as they will have to clean all the skeletons hidden in the cupboards..no easy job!

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:57

So remove the bad apple. Since when has Agostinoi become MOSES? Chuck him out. Is Gonzi so desperate that he cannot reshuffle his cabinet. Is the Govt formed of so many incompetent persons that Gonzi cannot find a replacement for the few momnths remaining?

The priorities are the people not the party. The party is for the people, nithing is greater than the people. Why be stubborn and insist on unworkable routes causing great hardship?

Who is behind this rigmarole?

Mark Brincat

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:57

Indeed

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:04

three cheers.. bring him back fro exile and he will help clean up your financial messes

Mr D Borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:41

Same here...agree. Dalli was the only health minister who tried to do something to get the hospital a truly state of the art. Unfortunately the System beat him.

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 14:59

Or Simon Busuttil

anthony farrugia

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:51

You are not a PN supporter as you would like us to beleive. Who used to call John Dalli as HuBastjan. Who attacked Dalli on the seized whisky which was supposed to be water.Who attacked Dalli on the sale of Mid Med Bank. Who attacked Dalli on the Daewoo saga. Who attacked Dalli on the purchase of a property in Qormi for Maltapost.
It was allways the Labour Party who attacked Dalli on several occassions and called for his resignation from finance minister and now you want him leader. What a cheek.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:37

I am sure that they would have done a better job with implementing a bus schedule and routes and system!!

that is what matters to the people - not nice names and inflated Egos.

They would have also seen that the pumping station next to SMART city be closed in time sot hat it can start employing the thousands promised!

Karl DeGiovanni

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:37

@Mark Cassar - very well said!

G Schembri

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:11

When Alex Sciberras Trigona and Karmenu Vella where in government, they introduced Air Malta which took the Maltese abroad. Austin Gatt could not even introduce a reliable national public transport, let alone international transport. He was also responsable for the downfall of Sea Malta and if he is left there we have a good chance of losing Air Malta as well. Get him out of there before it is too late and put someone who is capable of doing a good job. No matter who takes his place be it PN or LP - we want reliable Ministers.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:14

Karl - Sant's government was voted out on even "smaller" issues. It was voted out on a proposed project in Cottonera!!

At least here we have a "failed project" not a "proposed proejct". And we have a string of failures as long a mile followed a arrogance. we also have a government not fit to govern.

M Borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:27

@ Karl DeGiovanni

Well said !

People tend to be very short sighted sometimes.Revolt from within is certainly not what Dr Gonzi needs right now.

Karl DeGiovanni

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:27

Mr. Dimech - it was Mintoff's decision to vote against and it was Sant's decision to call an early election, if though his advisors advised against it.

Has everyone suddenly forgotten the 40 years of the previous bus service? The arrogant and violet drivers, the endless fumes, the dirty buses, the fact that they weren't insured, never on time? U ejja, kemm ninsew malajr ta!

This is not a failed project, this is a project which needs a rethink and which can work very well going forwards. These opportunistic motions by the PL are an utter waste of time and resources. Is this how Joseph expects to become the next Prime Minister? Why doesn't the PL come up with concrete proposals to make our life better and convince me that I should vote Labour at the next election?

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:59

Karl - did you forget PN bring Mintoff into their newsroom to raise the stacks? was that not waste of time? I think you are a little bit biased (or stupid).

Just speak to the people who use Arriva. The service is totally haphazard; Students to reach Junior College or Uni. is taking them twice as long as preivously. The same to go to hospital.

The old buses were a disgrace - the new servcie is 10 times worse - because in many instanes there is no service.

On a Fgura bus stop I saw people fighting to get on a bus. This just a few days ago.

We ended up in the middle ages; and when Austin was asked about it he said "I am not lossing any sleep over it"....

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:02

Karl - and by the way this is a vote askign for Austin to resign - not for the government to resign. It is Gonzi who is making it look that way...

M Borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:01

Is it too much to ask why Franco Debono did not ask for " a parliamentary committee to be set up when the reform was being drawn up . " ?

As far as we all know he forms part of Government .

Joseph Aquilina

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:38

Of course to PL this is of public interest, but emails showing Joseph Muscat trying to plant jornalists here and there is not!! Come on!! grow up from the two-party system where just because your party looks as if winning something then is good, but the same becomes pure evil as soon as your party no longer supports it!!

George Azzopardi

Nov 3rd 2011, 16:07

@Joseph Aquilina

both are public interest ... but PN Bloggers here like you are not very happy aboutthis!

Also. whilst mentioning planting of journalists, I guess you also need to mention the numerous planting of journalists from Net/RTK to TVM etc etc etc.... I wonder who is making this public .. x'wicc tost ghandkom!!!

a. xuereb

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:58

HE SUPPORTS THE PEOPLE

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:02

Ignore these people who are more interested in saving their face than about the public.

Good show Franco, Malta needs people like you. We would have achieved and done better if had more of those capable of standing up.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:12

I wondered this as well - but surely this is too damaging for PN to do so?

They have now lost all credibility and are verging on becoming a "failed party".

victor bonello

Nov 3rd 2011, 12:39

as Mr Ryan says " no publicity is bad publiciy" as long as it is free..

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:28

He is NOT ALLOWED to take any decision without permission from his handlers!

Alfred Vassallo

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:44

My dear Joe your party simply doesn't have the mettle to thread that honorable path. That path is only reserved for Honest Politicians. I am sure one person springs to your mind.

Mr Joe Micallef

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:19

Who Alfred you or your namesake? What a different scenario, that was an exit strategy by the same person (when he realised that contrary to what he had suggested before one cannot sleep with the devil to obtain whatever one wants), here it is untimely mutiny!

Alfred Vassallo

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:13

@Joe Micallef
Both my dear Joe, and that was no exit strategy at all and you know it. That was the honourable thing left to do especially when He realised that whatever the outcome it was going to be uphill all the time without any respite whatsoever. Now I dare say that the pn is going through the same moments that the pl went through whether untimely or not.

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:10

the shock waves are even worse if Gonzi and this government remains there.

They squandered an opportunity for Smart city to employee 2,600, by not closing a pumping station in time!!

that is, in my opinion, suicidal behaviour!

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:29

OK Franco go ahead - the people will admire you and thank for standing up the the bullies pushing Agostino and Gonzi.

Good show Franco

Alfred Vassallo

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:37

Kont naghmlek iktar matur min hekk Sur J.C. Senior.

Mela issa wasalna ghal rikat bil pulit.

Well I suppose maturity doesn't come in in a die hard pn apologist, whatever the circumstances.

edgar rossignaud

Nov 3rd 2011, 13:30

Exactly. In football terms, Debono has done a Tevez and he will end up like him in the reserves at best.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:34

The party "Whip" is an ingredient of free and democratic governments. Of course there will will always be rebels who will be foolhardy enough to be disloyal and face the consequences.

Depending on one's prejudices loyal MPs may be considered "puppets on a string" and disloyal ones could actually receive praise as "man enough to stand up and be counted".

It would be interesting to learn, according to your philosophy, in which category would you assign Mintoff when he toppled the Sant MLP goverment?

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:31

Hear, hear, well said

Dominic Chircop

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:25

Hon Franco Debono,

Beware !!!! You are confronting Girolamo Savonarola !!!!

You could be burned at the stake by the Curia Party !!

Philip Hili

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:14

@ A. Dimech.

Dr Frendo, you are redundant according to A. Dimech!! There is no need for a speaker in our parliament!! U hallina siehbi!! Tidher li ghadek titwieled!

A Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:40

this comment makes more sense then the last one I saw you posting -

One also has to mention one thing.

The Sant government had a majority of 7,000ish votes and should have been stable if there was no district manipulation.

The latest Gonzi government has 1,000ish votes of RELATIVE (not absolute) majority -

So, since you are a professor, this government tumbling and stuttering every minute is a reflection of "facts on the ground" and also of lack of leadership shown by this PM.

We had never, in the history of PN , seen it so much in shambles.

Alfred Vassallo

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:27

Quote ''The PL are enjoying a moment of poetic justice in seeing the PN in the same predicament as when Dom Mintoff broke ranks and gave the PN the predatory opportunity to wrest government from Alfred Sant. Wouldn,t it be ironic seeing the affair develop in a similar but with a switch of roles in favour of the PL.''

Quite true I would say, but with the sole difference that while Sant stuck to his guns, come what may, the pn won't EVER thread this path because they rather play the ''Clock and Dagger'' game then risk limp and all.

Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:34

It is not only Rome which is burning but the whole Roman Empire is in meltdown and yet we blightly continue as EM rightly says to play the fiddle as a divertimento for the people. Our current crop of mediocre politicians do enjoy taking us for a ride on the buses courtesy of Austin Gatt.

mary mifsud

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:40

I agree

Marija Falzon

Nov 3rd 2011, 08:48

If according to you Franco Debono should resign, what should Austin Gatt do?

charlie cauchi

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:22

jirezenja hu ghaliex? mela franko hu parti mil kabinet? kien il kabinet li approva dak li sar u mhux il membri parlamentari. jekk gonzi irrid li ma immurx ghal vot fil mozzjoni iggiejel lil gatt jirezenja u bhekk il mozzjoni taghqa

mary mifsud

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:35

@ Francis Saliba MD
parliament should have TV so that everyone can follow and judge.
But then I forgot..One could watch bondi+


Francis Saliba M.D.

Nov 3rd 2011, 11:08

It is up to parliament as a whole to decide what sittings should be broadcast on TV. The decision does not rest with any one MP desirous of free publicity for his antics on the "visual media". For that purpose, paid advertisements would be more suitable and permissible except on the eve of a general election.

Francesca Abela

Nov 3rd 2011, 08:17

Well said Pat, Gonzi shouls call an election now, he cannot work without leadership skills or by being blackmailed with his own members. Gonzi cannot afford to let Austin Gatt at the helm of the most disatrous public transport reform ever. By not taking any action against Gatt, Gonzi is looking weak as a leader. Yet when it came to John Dalli - HE was made to leave very fast - why? because he was a real threat to Gonzi. That is what Politics is all about. Keep your friends buttered up and place your enemies far away. However people have a brain to think and come to their own conclusions. Gonzi - either have Gatt removed or resign and make way for a strong leader who is not afraid to take decisions for the good of the country. I say this as a PN lukewarm supporter. The way things are going with this Government - they are going straight ahead for the most humiliating defeat in the history of elections come 2013.

Paul Cassar

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:38

you get it from he horses's mouth..................DEMOCRACY ACCORDING TO PN DIEHARDS.

R Axisa

Nov 3rd 2011, 08:21

But I guess your opinion was totally the opposite in 1998 - I'm sure you agreed with Mintoff voting against the government at that time! Two weights and two measures rule according to you!

FRANS H SAID

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:42

Stop defending just because he says he is anationalist. Austin had a secret agenda to impose the Piano and costing Malta 400 million. Eithor you are another "puppet" or else do not use the buses. Imagine in a day like today being offloaded in front of the Phaoenicia Hotel and running towards Valletta without any shelter whatsoever as you dear Austin wanted a Hole.

Going out you also have to endure a long walk without shelter.

Whgen will people start to laern to distinguish between partuy politc and individual egotism? If the PM and PN want to defend Austin at all means, let them suffer the same fate.

To me it seems that they are tired and therefore should make way.

This does not mean that I am supporting the PL, but between two devils you have to chose. Austin and his backers are acting far worse than the worst period of Mintoff.

Kenneth Williams

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:46

Jaqaw ghandek id driver Mr Portelli? Ghax qisek qatt m ghamilt xi 2hrs on a bus stop jew titlef xi appuntament l isptar wara 12 weeks tistennieh u jtuk iehor ghal sitt xhur wara kollu minhabba l Arriva

Marija Falzon

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:57

What's your point?

Alfred Vassallo

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:08

Mate you are going in circles.

What is you want? Gonzi in and LP out, or vice versa. Make up your mind.

Victor Vella

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:17

Marija if you want it on a spoon here it is,
A) Franco Debono is only after the limelight.
B)Arriva saw only money and messed up the whole system
C) I do not agree that the PL should accept to be on a committee as proposed.

Mr Alfred Grima

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:55

I am pretty sure he's not!

Rocco Camilleri

Nov 3rd 2011, 08:06

Well said Mr.Fenech. Dr.Gonzi used to tell us that Malta's fianances are in good strong hands, but as one can see Malta's defecit went always worse year in year out. One can look at the change in bus routes with all that costings which materialised in a shameful situation to all commuters. Also Malta used to have milking cows which were given to the foreigners for a mere some of money, because the PN ministers said that they don't want 'cwiec' Maltese running such important posts. How comes that now the Maltese became 'Cwiec' ??????

G. Portelli

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:02

No sir. I think it is autumn and going straight ahead into winter. Wait and see.

Justin Spiteri

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:19

Inciting revolution David?.

edgar rossignaud

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:31

I do not see why this whole fuss about Franco Debono's 'tejatrin'. Let him abstain - the Speaker will cast his vote and life will move on. With the difference that calling Debono's bluff will mean an end to his political ambitions - unless he joins the PL

Mr Hans Borg

Nov 3rd 2011, 10:23

@Mr Edgar Rossignaud

Why don't you ask the question to Dr Gonzi? He convened the PN's executive council at least 3 times to try to reverse Dr Debono's stand. So in case you did not notice, it is Dr Gonzi that's creating all the fuss!!

Giovanni Rizzo

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:53

Tajba Reno.

Rocco Camilleri

Nov 3rd 2011, 08:30

Prosett Reno. Fejn jaqblilhom iridu li jghamlu joint committe wara li jkunu ghamlu froga .

Lawrence Fenech

Nov 3rd 2011, 00:48

@Calleja.

This one beats them all.

Daniel Dimech

Nov 3rd 2011, 06:36

int bis serjeta!!!!!!!!!!!!!! int wiehed minn dawk li qieghed fi sqaq mudlam u jew pensjonant jew qatt ma kont fuq stage.

Rocco Camilleri

Nov 3rd 2011, 09:11

Andrew Callea, int biss serjeta qed tghid dan, jew minthiex tghix f'Malta. Veru hadd qatt mill- Ministri ma ghamlu bhall Austin Gatt ghax dejjem xi tbazwira ghamel u jibqa jsostni li hu qieghed fit-triq it-tajba. Lanqas biss jaf fejna l-Kelma 'skuzi' jew sorry. Il-parit gabulna Zero.

Lawrence Fenech

Nov 3rd 2011, 00:50

@Busuttil.

I think it's the other way around and the visionary Tonio is doing his best on this one.

Lawrence Fenech

Nov 3rd 2011, 00:52

@Borg.

Ghandek ragun. Xtella mieghu Brussels hadd ma jaf u jab lura meighu l-anqas, forsi jghidilna il-budget.

David Scicluna

Nov 3rd 2011, 19:46

Taf li qabbistli demgha!!

J Busuttil

Nov 2nd 2011, 22:47

Today's news

Lufthansa Technik
Cassar shipyards
Unemployment Down

U tigi Lilly Vella u tghid xebbajtu pazziz. Get a life Lilly Vella

lilly vella

Nov 2nd 2011, 23:22

forsi ma rnexxielekx tinduna fuq xiex kien dan l artiklu .

J Busuttil

Nov 2nd 2011, 23:56

Lilly Alla hares ixebba pajjiz fuq l-Arriva biss. Iva jiena lilek fimt

Tony Agius

Nov 3rd 2011, 01:13

Jekk xbajtu inti u shabekk affarikhom , wara kollox , li kieku kollox mexa fuq ir rubini, intkhom li qieghedin titqanshu biex tahbu il vera intenzjoni taghakhom , jigifieri li jinteresakhom biss , jitla il partit laburista fi gvern ( Allahares qatt ) , xorta kontu thosukhom imxebbejn , imma serrah rasek ghax il poplu meta jigi biex jivvota dejjem jifli hafna affarijiet ohra , u mhux sugget wiehed , jew dak li tixtiequ intkhom biss , ahseb u ara kemm ser jghati kas tal kummenti opportunisti taghakhom. wara kollox il poplu tilef il fiducja fil partit laburista zmien ijlu , u meta rega taghakhom cans , malajr rega induna li ghalxejn jiprova javda lil partit laburista , ghax iktar kemm il partit laburista iprova jinbidel , iktar mar ghal ghar .

Carmel Cilia

Nov 3rd 2011, 07:58

@J.Busuttil Cassarshipyards: wara 80milljun telf fuq il-Fairmount. Lufthansa Technik wsara 6000job bye bye tas Smart City. Unemplyment down: b'aktar min 12,000 part timers li hu luniku job taghhom, barra l-eluf tan nies impjegati b'inqas mill minumum wage
Spara siehbiu halli nghidulek.

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