Updated: Transport Minister had offered his resignation - PM
Transport Minister Austin Gatt just as he was coming out of the PN's executive council meeting last night.
Transport Minister Austin Gatt had offered his resignation during a cabinet session held before Nationalist MP Franco Debono had declared his position, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi said today.
Contacted for reaction following yesterday’s meeting of the PN executive committee to discuss Labour’s vote of no confidence in Dr Gatt, Dr Gonzi said that he had refused Dr Gatt’s resignation.
Dr Debono is considering abstaining on the motion in the name of political accountability.
Dr Gonzi said:
“The party electoral programme was clear that a public transport reform would happen and that routes not dependant on Valletta would be introduced.
“The routes introduced in July were approved by Cabinet and not only by Minister Gatt.
“Minister Gatt has assumed political responsibility and so does Cabinet,” Dr Gonzi said adding that he believed one could not be clearer than this as far as the assumption of responsibility is concerned.
In the meantime, Dr Debono is standing by his position but is evaluating the possibility of a proposed amendment to the motion
PN sources told timesofmalta.com this morning that during the meeting, it was proposed to Dr Debono to move an amendment to the motion which would be backed by the PN group.
This amendment would highlight the points Dr Debono made in his criticism of the public transport reform and acknowledge shortcomings. The minister would also assume responsibility.
This strategy, the sources said, would ensure that there will not be a vote on the Opposition's motion.
This would be because a vote would first be taken on the amendment and once this was approved, the final vote would be on the motion as amended.
According to the sources, the meeting yesterday considered four points - that the government should have acted on the transport issue well before Dr Debono decided to act upon the matter, that Dr Debono's actions had borne results, that if an amendment to the motion was moved, Dr Debono should take merit for it and that a position of convergence should be found.
The meeting called on the party to learn from its mistakes, and not repeat them.
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Mike Lee Torres
Nov 3rd 2011, 11:17
If we keep going this way, America will be forced to declar w...I mean Inva... I mean Liberate us too!
Mike Lee Torres
Nov 3rd 2011, 11:14
If we keep going this way, America will be forced to declar w...I mean Inva... I mean Liberate us too!
Henry Mifsud
Nov 2nd 2011, 17:49
Impressive Dr. Saliba MD .... it took you exactly 27 hours 23 minutes to look up, copy and paste a quotation from Shakespeare's Hamlet.
Contrary to what you have stated, any level-headed individual would expect a Prime Minister worth his salt to accept the resignation of a Minister who is so obviously responsible for such a mess. But then our PM is well known not only for his guffs but also for drawing his party and the government with him whenever he performs a blunder. Remember the Divorce fiasco?
Any other comments are superfluous!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 2nd 2011, 21:52
@ Henry Mifsud
I quote Hamlet without "loooking up, copying and pasting" - you do not even recognize that when you see it!
What is superfluous is your assumption that Dr Gonzi would be so foolish as to accept Dr Gatt's resignation in order to assuage the LP's thirst for power before the next election is due
Carmelo Mamo
Nov 9th 2011, 11:00
@ Saliba --- Jigifieri skont int Gonzi Ghandhu jhalli lil kullhadd jghaffeg .. basta jibqa fil poter ! JIdher li ilek ma tuza xi bus !
Giovann Demartino
Nov 2nd 2011, 17:31
Who was the minister of Justice when Nardu Debono was murdered by the police? Did the minister resign on that occasion? Or did he do his best to cover that horrible crime? I am convinced that MISTER laiviera will not answer me. As usual.
Henry Mifsud
Nov 2nd 2011, 18:19
Giovann, I do not want to answer for Mr. Laiviera but I couldn't help noticing how conveniently you tried to change the subject by going back in history. Why didn't you mention the fact that Charles Mangion resigned as Minister of Justice on a pure technicality because he was given the wrong advice by the AG? This you should have mentioned as Mangion's mistake did not cost the taxpayer a fraction of what Minister Gatt and GonziPN squandered on the new bus service, not to mention the apparently wrong choice of BWSC (although the chosen few think otherwise).
Philip Hili
Nov 2nd 2011, 19:44
@ Giovann Demartino
Oh!! Ommi Ma !!!! Mr Demartino, another one (Henry Mifsud) afraid of the past. Xejn, malli ssemmilhom il-passat MOQZIEZ TA' GVERN LABORISTA, jiggennu, jaghmlu tahthom u nahseb li jikunu waslu fi stat li jisparaw ghal rashom ghax ikun jridu li dak iz-zmien ma jitfakkarx, jintesa; halli l-votanti l-godda li ma jkunux jghafu bit-tracedji u t-terrur ta' dak iz-zmien, u allura ma jkunux jistghu iqabblu l-hajja ta' dak iz-zmien ma' tal-llum.
James Camilleri
Nov 2nd 2011, 19:58
@ Demartino
I will let Mr Laiviera answer you. But I have to put in a comment - So according to you all is well as long as the other party in the past did not respect the electorate and the democratic process? If the then Minister was in the wrong he should have resigned. If he did not do it, it was wrong. But likewise it is wrong of Dr Gatt not to the right and democratic thing. Mr Demartino you keep on defending the party in government over every single issue, even when it is blatantly in the wrong. Youare sounding like the 3 proverbial monkeys - see, hear, utter nothing. Don't you realise you are getting more and more like those whom you are criticising for their past misdemeanours. Unlike you most people are living in the present and want to see a better present
Giovann Demartino
Nov 2nd 2011, 20:22
There is absolutely no comparision what used to happen then and the problem of Arriva. If there is one single person who wanted the reform to succeed, that person was, certainly, Dr A Gatt. He did his best and he is still doing his best to give us a decent bus service.
But torturing and murdering honest citizens, and trying to hide the scandalous behaviour of those who were supposed to defend us....there is simply no comparision.
Henry Mifsud
Nov 2nd 2011, 20:32
Philip Hili, no wonder you wrote in mixed English and Maltese. You cannot understand simple English let alone make a full argument out of it!
Why do you state that I am afraid of the past? Didn't I mention the resignation of Charles Mangion as an example? That was nearly 15 years ago !! It is you and those of your ilk (Giovann Demartino being one of them) that only mention the past in order to try to derail an argument, or so you might think. But you fail miserably when you do not tackle the present. We are living today and although we never forget the past, we concentrate on the future as this is where we are heading. Unlike the present government, which seems to think that tomorrow never comes!
Mario allison
Nov 2nd 2011, 22:33
giovann ,25 years has passed we dont care anymore, remember karen grech, remember il balavostri ta haz zebbug, remember , labour's SMU turned SAG ,and what they did at the regatta.but,we still dont care because that is history.. Just like India,Pakistan ,and every country in the world who had their dark days , yes our's were the eighty's ,we are going into 2012 . Every comment you write you remind us of the 80's and youre giving mej a headache ,have you been living in limbo these last 25 years?
Philip Hili
Nov 3rd 2011, 01:30
@ Henry Mifsud
Mr. Mifsud, that is my style of writing especially when answering a person like you. Again in Maltese because I do not know how to express myself in English!!!! Nerik, titwerwru meta xi hadd ifakkarkom fil- passat moqziez ta' Gvern Laborista!!!!!! Taghmlu tahtkom!!!! Tibzghu mill-passat ta' gvern Laborista!!
Mr. Mifsud you should be ashamed of yourself mentioning the resignation of Dr. Charles Mangion (please not Charles Mangion!!!!) You should have mentioned the secret treaty with the Communist North Korean dictator Kim-li-Sung, signed by the then Foreign Affairs Minister under the labour government - AST You should have mentioned the death of Raymond Caruana followed by the frame-up of Pietru Pawl Busuttil, you should have mentioned the case where "Vella Brothers" were ill-treated while they were being interrogated by the police at the Police Head Quarters, you should have mentioned the case were a Police Superintendent or Asst. Comm. got hold of a disabled person and dished his head in the toilet to make pressure on him to sign a statement under duress, you should have mentioned the death Nardu Debono, already pointed out to you by Mr. Demartino, you should have mentioned that during the Labour administration to have a telephone was a luxury, so you had to pay LM50 at that time as back handed money to any one on power at the Telemalta in order to obtain a telephone line!!! You should have mentioned the lists which were in possession of the labour party marked in red so that "Dear Philip" could grant a permission to the blue eyed boys of the LP to have a colour TV. ect. ect. ect.
It is true that we are living today, but as I said, you are afraid of your past in government because he, how did not live that period did not know what Labour government mean!! So you do all your best to hide past which after all is REALITY!
Mhux bilfors insemmi ta' 15 il-sena ilu jekk dawn il-hnizrijiet kienu jsehhu fi zmien ir-regim laborista!! Jekk ma intix kuntent bl-ezempji li tajtek hawn fuq, ghidli halli nsemmillek izjed, ghax il-kullana twila HAFNA.
Sahha Nerik.
Philip Hili
Nov 3rd 2011, 11:07
@ Henry Mifsud
"we concentrate on the future as this is where we are heading." Oh!! what a cheek to express yourself in this manner!!
Is your future based on "disloyalty"? The case of Dr. Emails with Ms Sabrina Agius of a private radio station is a pattern of your future? Can we have a bright future when now we are experiencing unethical behaviour from the "supposed" our future prim minister? - please refer to the exchange of emails between Ms Agius ex. employee of RTK and Dr. Muscat leader (sic) of the opposition! Is this the way how a future Labour Government going to treat private sector employees, by encourage them to be disloyal to their employer?
If this is the type of future you are heading to, No, please live this future alone. This is not the type of future I would like to see when a Labour administration will be in charge of our affairs.
Philip Hili
Nov 3rd 2011, 11:40
@ Mario allison
Another one, afraid of a PL past! From your comments, it seems that you remember quite a good number of instances under a Nationalist Government but it seems that you forget the past of a labour government. Why? Because of dementia limited for the period of a Labour government only ?!! U hallina Mario!!! O.K. lets talk of the present. Do you want to have a prime minister who instead of guide the public and show him a way how one should be HONEST, we have a person, aiming to be our future prim minister, dong the other way round?
Last example of Dr. Emails together with the journalist of RTK is enough to have an inkling of our future had Dr. Muscat be our future prime minister!!!!!!!!
Josephine Debono
Nov 3rd 2011, 13:17
Dan ma jigustikfikax... Jekk ministru aghmel hazin dak iz-zmien ma ghandnix nikkuntentaw bl-izbali izjed... illum qeghdin nghixu f'ambjent aktar sann grazzi ghal PN. Nahseb austin ikun aktar smat jekk jirrizenja minn jeddu
Carmelo Mamo
Nov 9th 2011, 10:52
Jigfieri ghax il Laour ghamlu hazin , dan hu xi precedent biex in Nazzjonalisti jghamlu l'istess ? U jien ic cucc dejjem blajt li l'inqas hazin minn tnejn kienu il PN !
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 2nd 2011, 16:29
DEDICATED to all those, hoping against hope, that Dr Gonzi will be so rash as to do a "Sant" and oblige them by precipitating an early election:
" ... 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished ......
To sleep: perchance to dream: aye there is the rub ..... "
(from Hamlet - Prince of Denmark, by William Shakespeare)
Carmelo Mamo
Nov 9th 2011, 11:07
To sleep: perchance to dream: aye there is the rub ..... "
Well said dott ! ...... pity you did not find this quote and used it to answer your own comments during the divorce campaign ! or would it have been a case of "chickening out of the arguments" ...... Heads i win .. tails you lose !
P. Ciantar
Nov 2nd 2011, 16:23
just a short message... all has been bad on arriva. Gatt to take political resposibility but I was told today that Arriva never did that and please can anyone tell me who are the Maltese stakeholders of Arriva. I never heard of them or from them in the media in the last 5 months.
Francesca Abela
Nov 3rd 2011, 14:49
It is the TUMAS group who funnily enough agents of King Long lol who are 30 per cent holders in Arriva ;-)
Kev Samut
Nov 2nd 2011, 14:59
This morning at 6.30am Dr.Gatt should have been near the St.Lucia roundabout to watch the caos caused by the road works of Garibaldi road.It seems as they are never going to finish it off.Remember when Japan was hit with the quakes and tsunami?
After that in 1 week or less the roads were back to normal.
Francesca Abela
Nov 2nd 2011, 14:27
Ok LOL, so the PM fired John Dalli and sent him off to Brussels for some allegations which later turned out to be false, yet he keeps on a Minister who has caused total chaos to an entire nation with daily complaints from the Maltese people!! Incredible but true - onlyinmalta.com ;-)
Peter Borg
Nov 2nd 2011, 13:25
Oh, so the responsability lies with the whole cabinet does it? Thats easy then; the whole cabinet should resign and the prime minister should call an early election. I think that this is probably necessary anyway in view of all the controversial shenanigans the government has been embroiled in over the last year or so. Gonzi should have the courage and the decency to go to the country and either win a fresh mandate or more than likely receive his marching orders!
Frans van Avendonk
Nov 2nd 2011, 10:51
If all the ministers will refund the (undeserved!) Euro 500 increase from now, we might recover the transport reform costs just before the next election!
Lawrence Fenech
Nov 2nd 2011, 09:52
Dan ghandu seba mitt sena biex jitlaq ghax issa ghaqqadhom, ghamlulu pjacir u nehhuh.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 2nd 2011, 09:16
Who on earth is Agostino and his backers? The PM has not even accepted the plea from his own borther, Dr Michael Gonzi, who pleaded for a better service in St Paul's Bay. With the new schedules, the old routes 49 & 58 have still not be re installed, and to add insult to injury, the bus stops on these routes are being eliminated.
David Spiteri
Nov 2nd 2011, 08:54
looking at this mornings traffic driving from the south to work - Dr Gonzi should be ashamed. I do not have any policemen driving in front of me since i am a common person!
M Borg
Nov 2nd 2011, 10:12
Now what has Austin Gatt or Dr Gonzi got to do witjh the traffic ?
We all know that we always get , and we always had traffic jams in the morning rush hour, nothing new. We also had them before Arriva .
So why do you think that Dr Gonzi should be ashamed ?
G Schembri
Nov 2nd 2011, 11:17
M Borg during School Holidays we didn't have traffic jams in the morning and today students do not have school.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 2nd 2011, 11:21
@ M. Borg.
Let us not digress for the present. Look around you and find out what has TRULY been done.
Will commen t later, but first I give you time to think and ponder.
M Borg
Nov 2nd 2011, 13:26
@ G Schembri
@Frans H Said
Like both of you I am not satisfied with the routes at present. However I will wait for the 6th to see if things will get better.
As for the traffic jams ,we have had them on our roads since forever, so to say that we are having them now because of Dr. Gonzi , Austin Gatt or Arriva does not make any sense.
Anthony Pace
Nov 2nd 2011, 08:48
He should resign complelty from an MP and let someone else, younger and fresher take his place. Better still the PM should call an election.
Claire Busuttil
Nov 2nd 2011, 08:32
Imma dal gvern qed jahseb li in nies boloh???? ghalfejn dawn il messi in xena kollha.....???
Carmel Cilia
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:58
Voldieri il-cabinett approva tibdil tar rotot li giet tiswa lil poplu mal500,00 ewro biex issa se tigi skrapjata.IL-Prim qieghed jghid li kollha kienu responsabbli. Bir ragun li ma accettax ir-rizenja ta Gatt ghax bl-istess argument ikollu jirrezenja hu u il-kabinett kollu.
Min irid jidhaq b'min -hekk qal ftit ilu il-prim ministru Jien nghidlu min irid jidhaq bil-poplu: hadd hlifek prim. Pero il-malti jghid li Hadd wara Hadd tasal ta kulhadd. Sahha.
j brincat
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:17
By refusing his resignation isn't the PM showing great insensitivity to the people's woes? The anger and frustration came from people from all walks of life, irrespective of their political colour, except, of course, to the diehards with thick wool over their eyes.
Isn't this insensitivity reminiscent to the now classical € 500 weekly bonanza that the PM gave himself and his ministers?
The Arriva fiasco follows in the steps of another frorga - ARMS. What message is the PM giving to his ministers by not accepting resignations? That whatever they do he will always give them a clean certificate.
Another in the series 'Only in Malta'.
(jb)
Diego Csaba
Nov 2nd 2011, 09:23
Is any of this surprising? Ive been here for 2 years and often look to the governments antics for comedic value.
Mario Grima
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:16
This country is governed not only by arrogant misisters but worse still by a silly prime minister who thinks that we are all morons.
J Borg
Nov 2nd 2011, 05:41
Comment of the year by m. borg
"An M.D. uses his private car not the public transport system, of all people I would expect doctors , lawyers and other professionals to stay out of the argument.
It is a matter between the government and us ordinary men in the street.”
Lawyer MP Franco Debono (who NEVER uses the buses)is using the exuse of the 'ordinary men in the street’ to get back at Lawyer, MP and Minister Austin Gatt , for not letting Franco contest a general election when the Minister was Party general secretary and for fielding Manuel Delia as candidate in his district. Franco could be using this ‘bad publicity’ to outshine truly valid candidates like Ninu , Dr Herman Schiavone , and Manuel Delia in his district.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:05
Are you truly the ordinary man in the street or just another PN apologist? Admit all of you, if you have the courage, that this mix up is omly due to the hole in the wall by your idol called Piano, thus the removal of the terminus. Put the old routes back in. The problem were the very old buses and a small number or drivers. That is what was required. That is what the people understood by upgrading, not a complete mix up.
Even now there are certain direct routes that will be re installed as there aare god almighties in the party who do not want them. Study the case before you do like the proverbial fools that rush in.
Christina Pace
Nov 2nd 2011, 08:30
really don't get the chip on your shoulder mate.
Who better to represent the people's complains than a legally knowledgable MP. Though Franco may (or may not) use his private car, this is not to say that no one is his family uses Arriva or that no one went to complain to him about it. There were many opportunities by laymen on both sides to take the action he took which however went untaken. Yet amazingly someone does something official about the situation and you have the cheek to say it was a bad thing to do. If Ninu and Herman wanted to shine they could have done the same as Franco and spoke up in parliament for the people as opposed to the opposition who monopolized the media but never took concrete action or the cabinet that in their majority denied the fiasco.
G Schembri
Nov 2nd 2011, 11:23
Lawyer Franco Debono is "the 'ordinary men in the street’ " representative. He was elected in parliament to represent us and not himself or his party. What makes you think that the persons you mentioned are better at representing us than Franco Debono. Some of them received much less votes than him in the last election, when it comes to Manuel Delia his transport routes show us how much of a good people's representative he is.
Dennis Zammit
Nov 2nd 2011, 11:45
More than right.
Franco Debono was an unknown before the last election. Now he wants to rule Malta!!
He should grow up first .
J Schembri
Nov 2nd 2011, 19:27
@ Cristina Pace :I was replying to m.borg who said that lawyers , doctors and other people who use the car should keep out of this polemic.
Now to your comment:
"Who better to represent the people's complains than a legally knowledgable MP”,that’s the problem with Franco he never (and I hope will never) had a hands on administrative job, he’s good at arguing ad nauseam. Has he ever run his own business (not office)?People who run businesses don’t fire the project leaders who always delivered and tried something which worked somewhere else but unfortunate circumstances did nothelp to make it work here.
I searched in vain to find a contribution of our MP Franco Debono during the public transport consultation process, probably he was busy planning the defence of some drug related case which is his main job.
Like many of the commentators here Franco Debono is after the person not the solution of the problem. He never participated in the discussion BEFORE the transport reshuffle which is part of the PN’s Electoral Program.
You mentioned Ninu and Hermann; when these respectable persons want to do something good for the country they either just do it like Ninu does or write about their worries like Schiavone did today on this paper.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111102/opinion/Reform-not-a-Second-Republic-.391884
Both these gentlemen show loyalty to the party and never point fingers to try to cause irreparable damage to their colleagues and subsequently to their party.
Anthony Mifsud Bonnici Giordani
Nov 2nd 2011, 05:15
Il-PN kapaci johrog mill-frejjeg li jaghmel huwa stess. Meta se jitghallem il-poplu?? Partit li qed jilghab dejjem bin-nuqqas ta' inteligenza politika tac-cittadin.
R. Gauci
Nov 2nd 2011, 01:32
La Gonzi ma accettax ir-rizenja ta` Austin Gatt awtomatikament dahal responsabbli hu minfloku tal-fjask ta` l-Arriva u l-konsegwenzi kollha li din tista ggib fil-Parlament nhar il-Gimgha.
Philip Hili
Nov 2nd 2011, 01:25
Kostituenti ta' Franco Debono,
Ghorku idejkom ghax bil-vot taghkom, iz-ziemel taghkom qieghed isawwat lilna u jaghmilna tapit!!!!
FRANS H SAID
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:17
Franco Debono is showimng that he is no puppet and the people should be proud of him. Do not forget that the very PM had dfecl;ared that he does not have suitable material as they all seem to be puppets. Good show Franco, Malta needs people of stamina like you and not puppets and booth lickrs. It is high time that the people of Malta stand up for their rights and not be blinded by party colours.
Carmel Cilia
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:50
Mela ma jimpurtax komplu sawtu lil poplu siehbi.
Brian Gatt
Nov 2nd 2011, 09:58
To Philip Hili - PN Lackey,
Thanks for your comment above, really and honestly thanks,
Your comment shows what is really important for the PN - Keeping the Power at all costs
Your comment shows the insensitivity the PN has towards the issues that are really effecting the people
Your comment shows the way the PN demonizes those who do not follow the regime's orders even though the said person is saying the Truth and sticking up for his constituents.
Your comment clearly highlights the reasons the people should opt for a change of goverment come the next General Election.
Philip Hili
Nov 2nd 2011, 20:07
@ Brian Gatt
Ara ma tahsibx li ser niehu ghalija ghax ghidtli qaddej, jew seftur tal-PN ta!!!! Anzi, KBURI b'dan. Taf fejn ma nkux kburi li nkun qaddej tal-PN?, meta l-PN isawwat lilna biex titpaxxew inthom!! Hemm le!! ma nkunx kburi li jien qaddej tal-PN ghax inkun qieghed immur kontra kull principju tal-gustizzja. Issa jekk trid xi ftit ezempji ghidli u naghqlalek kemm trid.
Yes it is important for the PN to keep the power because I and many others who lived the days of terror during the Labour administration do not want to spend 5 years of terror and instability under a labour administration. It seem that you have already forgot the "hacking"!!! of emails by Dr. Emails. Hallina Man!!! Diga' qieghed jurik kif irid imexxi siehbek, bazwar l'hawn u bazwar l-hemm, basta jkun jissejjah l-izghar Prim Ministru!!! U Hallia Brian. If you are of a tender age and therefore you do not remember the horrible days of a labour administration, I don't blame when wishing a change in government.
"even though the said person is saying the Truth and sticking up for his constituents." Kif taf? Mela gie qallek li qieghed jghid il-verita'? Ma qallik ukoll li jixtieq isir ministru wkoll hux?? Brian, meta timmatura fil-politika, ikkummenta. Pero' ghalissa, ahjar tghalaq halqek ghax hmerijiet tghid.
D Mifsud
Nov 2nd 2011, 00:02
This Gov is really capable and continues to impress me...I thought it was really impossible to do worse than the previous public transport...but this Govt managed to do it. Very well done!! Whenever I hear the word REFORM I shiver because it means something will get more expensive while retaining the same or even a worse service!
John Attard
Nov 1st 2011, 23:27
Dr Debono will be remembered the Deputy of pantomines as he made another u turn like he did 2 years ago, but he likes the media and for the whole two weeks everyone was talking about him and he loves that being in the centre of the news and getting all the front pages of all the newspapers in one go .......
Philip Hili
Nov 2nd 2011, 20:10
@ John Attard
Yes, you are right Mr. Attard. But sometimes you can't help it and readers fall in his trap, to comment on his childish actions and thus gain publicity.
Ray Briffa
Nov 1st 2011, 23:14
Why do some people feel offended just because others criticise a system or project that has been introduced by the political party they support? The problems we are facing since public transport passed over to Arriva are a fact. Even the government has admitted that the new transport system has failed.
What we need now is a solution to the traffic chaos. It's taking ages to get to work and definitely the amount of traffic that has invaded the arterial roads is surely posing an environmental health hazard. All those concerned should listen to our complaints and act upon them.
Action please as the situation is becoming intolerable. And do stop speaking politics. What we want is good service not talk, talk, talk!
Alfred Cassar
Nov 1st 2011, 22:15
I think the main problem is not that some buses do not go to Valletta. It is convenient for me living in Attard to change bus say at Mosta or Mater Dei instead of Valletta. The main problem is that there are not enough buses for Arriva to keep on schedules.
Another problem is ticketing, passengers have to buy tickets beforehand, either using cards or buying a number of day-tickets which are only valided as soon as they are used and not expiring the day they are bought.
Wilfred Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 22:51
Buying tickets ahead of time is the sensible thing to do. This is pretty standard in most transit systems. The whole ticketing system is convoluted because of the insane decision to have a two-tier ticketing system; one for commuters with a valid ID card and one for those who don't. If this is done away it would alleviate a lot of the ticketing problems and the resulting delays caused by ticket checking and ticket purchasing from bus drivers. Drivers should not be selling tickets.
michael catania
Nov 1st 2011, 21:31
We have a government that talks of reform. Yet with every reform it has cost this nation millions of Euro. Money that could have been spent of health and education. My feeling is that these reforms are an excuse to line the conservative inner circles' pockets while most of the rest of the nation struggles along as best as they can. Would it not be interesting if an enquiry is held into the accrued wealth of all members of this conservative government then maybe the nation will be able to judge were our money could have ended up.
Victor Vella
Nov 1st 2011, 21:28
A Transport system which converges on one hub is wrong and wastefull and I sincerely hope that we dont getthe messy inferno we had before at the main terminus.We need to stop expecting that we get a bus straight to Valletta from our village .What is the difference between changing a bus at Valletta to changing one at Qormi?
stephen koludrovic
Nov 1st 2011, 22:00
One heck of a big difference.
We already had natural hubs, in Blata-il Bajda, Porte de bombs, Paula, Msida, Floriana and Valletta.
Creating a hub in Qormi was just a useless idea that cost the commuters time, and Arriva a more fuel costs.
Lino Busuttil
Nov 1st 2011, 23:41
Bugibba is a hub and a major destination, Mater Dei is a hub and a major destination, Valletta is a major hub and a destination but Qormi????????????? Ask people travelling to Valletta going through Qormi a trip taking for ever in stead of half an hr for e.g.
Dennis Zammit
Nov 2nd 2011, 08:05
The ONLY reason for the so called 'hub' or 'park & ride' in Qormi was to GIVE Arriva a plot of prime central land to be able to park their buses during the day and especially during the night as it clearly seems that they DID NOT PLAN ahead in time enough where the buses will be parked at night.
We where used to see each bus being parked in the owner's garage at night. It clearly seems that Arriva did not realize this until it was too late.
Now, since the works at Qormi P&R where done in a rush, the road is already coming to pieces in at least 3 locations; one of them really big hole!!
Paul Giordimaina
Nov 2nd 2011, 08:06
How wou;ld you know Stephen.
michael catania
Nov 1st 2011, 21:12
Seeing that the whole cabinet approved the new routes then maybe the whole government should tender their resignation. I'm sure the President will have no problem in accepting them.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 20:38
@ I Vella.(1 Nov 2011 at 20:00 hrs)
I am 100% with you in your quest for a public transport service from Arriva, worthy of the Maltese public and in line with huge outlay by the taxpayer.
That ideal would have a better chance of success if the responsible Minister and the whole government are allowed to tackle and solve that real problem instead of having their time and energy wasted in countering cheap political manouveres by the opposition and the odd NP back bencher.
m. borg
Nov 1st 2011, 21:14
They had two years to prepare the transition but it still failed, as per nationalist tendency.
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An M.D. uses his private car not the public transport system, of all people I would expect doctors , lawyers and other professionals to stay out of the argument.
It is a matter between the government and us ordinary men in the street.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 22:28
@ m.borg.
I say that I am 100% in favour of a public transport service from Arriva, worthy of the Maltese public . You challenge me and demand that all doctors, lawyers and all "professionals" to stay out of the argument.
How silly of you to give your game away so stupidly! Do I need to spoon feed you and to explain to you how your comment proves that you are not at all interested in a satisfactory public transport service. You are only interested in the downfall of the government and early elections.
Wilfred Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 22:54
@m. borg What? We live in a democracy and in a democracy every one has the right to voice his/her opinion! Some people never grow up!
m. borg
Nov 1st 2011, 23:34
It is people like who keep making excuses for the government's short falls that make us suffer.
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Yes it is imperative that there is a change and as soon as possible. Your kind are having it easy while we have to struggle to get by.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:19
They were "allowed" and created a fiasco. They were not after a better service but only to clear City Gate so that the hole would be seen better. Wake up to reality. This is not partuy dogma but a person who was mesmerised by Piano costing Malta 400 million for a monstrosity and stupidity.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 2nd 2011, 09:36
@ m borg.
Pray, who do you think you are to try to impose your aspiration for a change of government as your "imperative" on everybody else and more importantly on the incumbent Prime Minister who is the only person authorised by law to decide on the next election date?
Your comment is another illustration of arrogance by someone who would also deprive all members of the professions from expressing opinions about Malta's public transport!
Paul Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 20:37
Just go man and don't come back. Preferabbly abroad. Most of the hardships endured by the Maltese was brought onto by Hon Austin Gatt and his entourage.....just go!! you will be remembered in a very negative way.
Mr Emanuel Farrugia
Nov 1st 2011, 20:35
Onor. 'champion' Gatt, veru inti bniedem ta' direzzjoni, motivat u ta' certu integrita. Fejn taf. Hallina, xbajt tghaddi z-zmien bil-poplu. Ara lil hbieb tal-hbieb dawk le, dawk xi safra u ikla tajba flimkien.
Emanuel Farrugia former Executive Secretary Mtarfa Local Council
Mr Jimmie Rowe
Nov 1st 2011, 20:14
Who cares, we got many like him back home, Maybe you guys should employ an English man same as AirMalta has done, provided the salary is three times as a Local
Connie D'Emanuele
Nov 1st 2011, 19:54
DR. Austin Gatt qal lil Dr Gonzi " Thank you daddy qbizt ghalija ''
C Cassar
Nov 1st 2011, 19:42
Well done Austin Gatt for introducing a modern transport system against all the odds. Even if many Maltese don't understand how a modern system works, it had to be done.
Now it's done, it's irreversible. The Maltese will eventually get to understand that the new system is far better than the old one. Visitors fronm other parts of Europe are used to such systems and it's the previous labour governments that have held Malta way back in terms of modern infrastructure.
l vella
Nov 1st 2011, 19:49
again politics.......
but do you really believe Arriva is a modern system ? state of the art ?
why should i understand something that plays havoc with my timetable ?
i must assume you dont ride on Arriva but just commented here to show the flag !
J Busuttil
Nov 1st 2011, 20:08
I vella
Its you who is sick with politics I bet you don't even ride Arriva yes its modern but needs more shaping up but it will arrive at that stage we will still find you critisising them why ? Because you are full of politics.
Thomas Mifsud
Nov 1st 2011, 20:31
You must be joking... What your satisfied of is that the tourist get a 2 hour ride on a bus and keep going all around Malta. You forget the Local Public who wants to go for work, or to the hospital or anywhere much more important than a fun ride!!
Paul Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 20:43
Most PN die hards that praise Arriva never ever caught a bus. Yes the system could have worked if Arriva packed in another 100 buses to keep the shedule on time at the interchangers. You get off one bus and in 5 minutes you are on another. This company has been expelled from cities has gone bankrupt and bought by Deutche autobahn of Germany and all of you keep saying that it is state of the art. Ara qatt ma hrigtu mid dar !!!
James Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 21:31
@As usual Mr Cassar defending the undefensible and criticising the Maltese for being morons. The new system is not working not because of lack of understanding by commuters Mr Cassar but because well it is just not working. Everyone (well almost everyone) can follow schedules and decide on which interchange one should use to get from A to B. However travelling with Arriva is not just about getting the hang of how the system works but rather how it is not working - how long one has to wait and how long the journey would take one. The problem and the frustrations of commuters is the excessive waiting time. Malta is not any other part of Europe where distances are long and require interchanges. Interchanges abroad are effected to cut on waiting time and distances. In Malta they did the opposite. You are definitely not a regular commuter. Otherwise you would be in a position to assess the system better. Using a bus now and then does not make you a commuter. Thank God you weren't in with TM otherwise the revolution would have failed even more dismally. The brigade of which you form part - those who have wool over their eyes, apologists without a clue, delusional characters who not making use of the buses still want to sing the failed revolution to high heaven, those for whom criticism is bound to be due to political opposition - is in the minority. In the meantime commuters using the buses everyday still are complaining not due to lack of understanding but due to the sheer endless length of time to board a bus. This is all due to Dr Gatt's introduction of a modern transport system against all odds. A revolution which was mainly the importation of much needed new eco-friendly buses working on a half baked system.
C Cassar
Nov 1st 2011, 21:38
Arriva has not gone bankrupt in any other country. Deutsche Bahn acquired Arriva because it was a succesful company with huge future potential. Clearly you understand nothing about the transport industry.
krystle micallef
Nov 1st 2011, 19:41
sur austin gatt bhalma galt il-fuq min 500 truck biex jirrezenja ghax skond int buzullotti kienu jaghmlu ghamel int il-pass issa ghax daqs kemm ghamilt buzullotti int fi 3 xhur m'ghamlux huma fuq 40 sena servizz!
Tony Zammit
Nov 1st 2011, 21:13
Well said, buzullotti austin gatt started from that first day you said buzullotti issa daqsek. Now eat your words ...
Paul Giordimaina
Nov 2nd 2011, 07:57
Ghandek cans Krystlke kompli ikripa forsi 18 il xaghar iehor nerga nejd FORSI tirbhu.
krystle micallef
Nov 2nd 2011, 20:30
@ paul dan mhux punt politikament imma ntlaqtu familji maltin li ragel spicca bla xoghol habba dawn il-barranin li sar fjask shih! jiena ma jinteressanix min jitla 18 il xahar iehor l-importanti li jinqataw dawn il-bzullotii u nafdaw aktar fil-prodott li joffri il-malti ghax ahna kapaci daqsom! u min jghid li l-arriva sejra tajjeb jiddispjacini nghid li mohhu maghluq u jitkellem mija fil-mija politikament
Charles Massa
Nov 1st 2011, 19:19
Il cabinet kollhu responsabli ghal dan id dizastru............mela allura ghandhom jirrizanaw il ministri kollha ghax mhux kapaci
Joe Busuttil
Nov 1st 2011, 19:43
What was it that Gonzi remarked to the American ambassador about his elected MPs? When compared to the PN under Gonzi the Tower of Babel tale looks like Swiss clockwork. The crying part is when you still find PN apologists and others who clap their hearts out every Sunday at whatever Gonzi says. Don't they realize that all the squandering of money,including the notorious 500 Euros rise,which was kept secret from them, is coming out of their pockets?
Anthony Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 23:38
I agree 100% I vote for Charles Massa whoever this guy is to take the cabinet's place and run the country until the other bright star by the name of Joseph Muscat takes over in a few months time. But pse I beg of these to to keep a low profile as they may be snatched away by some other country to run their affairs. You never know, when Obama is voted out maybe
Charles J. Buttigieg
Nov 1st 2011, 18:59
Alan Delia, the Arriva disaster’s engineer offers his resignation to Minister Gatt, and Gatt refused; Gatt offers his resignation to Gonzi and Gonzi refused; Franco Debono asked for Gatt resignation and Gatt refused; The people are asking the Government to resign and the government refuses to resign. What a circus!
Angus Black
Nov 1st 2011, 19:57
"The people are asking the Government to resign"! Says who?
Are you conducting your own private referendum, Charles?
Both the PM and Cabinet are working for the good of the country while Joseph spends his time sending e-mails "for the good of the Party".
Who should resign, Charles?
The Cospicua Mayor has not resigned, pending appeal, even if convicted of the charges of nepotism and the Labour Party has asked for surrendering his membership (kicked out or resigned?) and you and your other elves are demanding Austin Gatt to resign?
Get a life, Charles.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Nov 1st 2011, 20:20
sorry Angus,
"The people are asking the Government to resign"! Says who? The majority in the streets.
Are you conducting your own private referendum, Charles? Don’t need to,the writing is on the wall.
Both the PM and Cabinet are working for the good of the country while Joseph spends his time sending e-mails "for the good of the Party".That’s your opinion
Who should resign, Charles? The lot.
The Cospicua Mayor has not resigned, pending appeal, even if convicted of the charges of nepotism and the Labour Party has asked for surrendering his membership (kicked out or resigned?) and you and your other elves are demanding Austin Gatt to resign? The Cospicua Mayor was forced to resign from the Party and he did. Nobody can force an elected member to resign except a court order
Get a life, Charles. I LEAD A NICE LIFE THANK YOU .
Tony Agius
Nov 1st 2011, 23:18
The people did NOT ask the government to resign , but the people Elected the government , and the chances are that come next Elections , the people will do the same again , because the people always consider many other things before they give their vote , not just your comments and just your wishes.
Philip Hili
Nov 2nd 2011, 01:20
@ Charles J. Buttigieg
Tkellem ghalik sur Buttigieg!!!!!!
Charles J. Buttigieg
Nov 2nd 2011, 09:16
Mr.Hili,
The people are speaking and the Country is aching. I m not the mouth piece,merely joining the people and repeating what they are saying. I hear a lot of grumbling coming from all sides of our political ambiance.It is true however that a small minority finds nothing to complain about. Which segment do you belong to ?
Kevin McBill
Nov 1st 2011, 18:50
Veru par idejn sodi ta' Gonzi iridu jkunu biex izomm mieghu persuna li:
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Tellfet lil poplu bicca art il-Qawra li tiswa Lm10m, jew €23 miljun Euro. Ghadu jghid li l-art se jgibha lura. Hozz fl-ilma ja poplu.
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Il-poplu ghamel tajjeb bejn €40 u €70 miljun Euro fuq il-Fairmounth.
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Il-poplu ma nafx kemm il-miljun ta' Euro hallas ghal riforma tal-karozzi tal-mejtin fejn kollox baqa' kif kien.
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Ftit snin ilu hallasna xi €40 miljun Euro biex xtrajna karozzi godda tal-linja biex issa tajnihom bil-millezmi.
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Il-poplu hallas xi €50 miljun euro lil tal-linja biex il-gvern ta' Gonzi & Gatt izommhom kwieti.
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Il-poplu hallas miljuni konsiderevoli ghar riforma tal-linja, ghal konsulenzi bazwijin, ghal izbalji bhal dik ta Triq Bizazza ecc.
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Il-poplu hallas xi 15 il-miljun Euro biex spustjajna il-fabbriki mir-Ricasoli biex il-MINI-stru Gatt kellu l-ardir jghidilna li ta' l-iSmart City 'out smartjawh' u m'huma obbligati jimpjegaw lil hadd. Possibbli ma kellux il-kapacita li fil-kuntratt idahhal klawsoli semplici li z-zmein jiddependi minn kemm iddum l-approvazzjoni tal-Mepa. Possibbli.
Sorry Gonz min jista' jerga' jafdak
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 19:06
Insejt il- 400 milljun fuq Piano li minhabba fih sar id-disastru tal-Arriva u ta' Putirjal.
MONEY IS NO PROBLEM, ghalfejn iridu.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Nov 1st 2011, 19:20
Kevin,"Il-poplu ma nafx kemm il-miljun ta' Euro hallas ghal riforma tal-karozzi tal-mejtin fejn kollox baqa' kif kien."? Kollox baqa' kif kien? Morna lura bhall granc.
Andrew Cumbo
Nov 1st 2011, 18:41
Hija verita li il-Kabinett approva r-rotot (minghajr konsultazzjoni) f' Gunju li ghadda. Imma hija verita wkoll li l-Ministru Gatt wieghed hafna fic-cerimonja tal-inawgurazzjoni li swiet lil poplu Malti €80 elf. Qallilna li zmien il-buzulotti spicca u r-rizultat qieghdin narawh u mmissuh b'idejna kuljum. Qalilna wkoll li t-terminus l-antik se jispicca, u issa x'gara? Temporanjament jew le, ergajna morna fit-terminus l-antik. Kien qalilna li l-karozzi se jkunu kollha euro V. U issa ergajna lura ghall-karrozzi li jhammgu wisq aktar minn dawn. Xi nghidu ghall-bus shelters li weghdna? Nahseb kulhadd ghandu ghajnejh f'wiccu u jista’ jara kemm ghandu postijiet adekwati fejn jistkenn (ghall-hinjiet twal).
Il-poplu bi dritt jistenna dak li gie mwieghed, ghax wara kollox kien il- poplu li hallas ghal din il-bidla, sew meta is-sidien tal-karrozzi l-antiki inataw il-kumpens, u sew issa bl-eluf li qeghdin jinataw ta’ l-Arriva biex itejbu s-servizz.
Jeffrey Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 18:41
Those who use the car are in the same situation like those who use the buses . Everyone started arriving late for his appointments since school started. There are just too many cars on the road in the rush hour in the morning and evening.
Arriva’s promise was that they take the commuters on time from destination A to destination B AS AGREED with Malta Transport.
Malta Transport will penalise Arriva the contractor , but people would not care less about penalties , People want to use public transport and arrive on time.
Franco Debono’s support or non approval of PL’s motion of no confidence in Dr Gatt would simply be putting the blame on the minister who got everyone out of the stalemate the public transport was in.
Like Labour Franco Debono has no solution for the problem, if there is anyone who can understand the transport problem it’s Dr Gatt and he never shies away. Franco is good at playing with arguments ...which will get us nowhere.
Arriva had started on the wrong footing with 200 drivers less on the first day and commuters lost confidence in the system and started using their cars which further caused delays for Arriva’s buses.
Now we are in a vicious circle.
Today I arrived for work with my car 25 minutes earlier than the past weeks , school buses and people working in the education sector were not out.
I believe that we will have the same situation even with the ‘ideal’ system , because there are too many cars on the road.
Churchill once said that wars are not won with evacuations ,that is problems are not solved by avoiding to face them.
Austin Gatt’s attitude is to grab the bull by the horns , if he did not manage on his first attempt he will grab the bull by the horns in the second . Spectators like Franco and the PL are good at criticizing and booing where encouragement and clapping are expected especially from one’s presumed supporters.
Prime minister Gonzi emphasised about the collegiality of ministers; that shows that Franco and the PL are now faced with Austin who is backed by the whole cabinet led by Dr Gonzi.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 19:08
I would put it slightly different. Austin has now been imposed on the whole cabinet as all are afraid of going to elections. Is this blackmail by you know who? Everybody has a mind to think.
VIVA IL-PAR IDEJN SODI!
l vella
Nov 1st 2011, 19:54
Seems Arriva gored him ! maybe the horns were too big ?
Mr C Busuttil
Nov 1st 2011, 18:24
They managed to ruin what was the worse service on the island that is the previous public transport provided by those rude drivers. Allthough rude they got you to destination in a decent time, although they had dirty buses you got to destination in time, although they did not greet you with a good morning (not that arriva drivers do) you got to your destination in a decent time.
The PN is accepting the responisibilty for this mess, so every time we have to take a bus we know who's fault it is and what we have to pass through this odyssey to get to our destinations.
I don't expect any improvements either come next Sunday as they don't have enough buses to make it work, pudina wara l-ohra
mark borg
Nov 1st 2011, 18:45
Spot on ! plus the previous primitive service ,should have at least been abolished some fifteen years ago ! Not leaving a handfull of Bus owners do as they simply pleased !
carmen mamo
Nov 1st 2011, 18:24
issa gonzi ma jaccetahix l aqwa li gatt laghab il loghba
carmen mamo
Nov 1st 2011, 18:22
issa gonzi ma jaccettahix l aqwa li laghab il loghba
Mario Vella Laurenti
Nov 1st 2011, 18:22
In my opinion, the Nationalist Party doesn't deserve to win the next election. Their policies over this mandate have been wrong: i.e. High cost of water and electricity, self-serving politicians who increase their salaries by 500 euros per week, which is political suicide, the cost of living, gas and fuel, building a theatre without a roof, wishing to go back to the dim dark days of domestic violence by being against divorce, and Arrrrriiiiiiiiiva, Arrrrriiiiiiva la Bomba!!!
I don't want to see the Labour Party in power either, because they are incompetent, they are amateurs and they are not ready to be in power. Besides, some of their members of parliament have been around since the 80s and anyone who remembers the 80s with Mintoff and KMB will definitely not want to vote for them again.
The best thing to do is to join the third party, like the three monkeys - see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil, and to stay home and not vote.
Dione Azzopardi
Nov 1st 2011, 18:41
Oh how professional and competent are these of the nationalist party!!!
Lino Debono
Nov 1st 2011, 22:24
No vote = vote Labour......no way after governing this country against the expressed will of the majority in Dec 1981
Tony Agius
Nov 1st 2011, 23:40
Dan il kumment ma huwa xejn hlif lixka ghal voti favur il Partit Laburista , min ma jivvutax u jahsel idejh bhal Pilatu , ikun hati daqs Pilatu .
Jeffrey Borg
Nov 2nd 2011, 04:16
You are another Franco Debono, you have a right and a duty to choose and leave others to do the deciding.
What if you’re told that you will loose the right to vote? Just look at nearby Libya and see through which hell they went through to have their democracy.
Like many people you forgot the twenty two month Alfred Sant nightmare! For starters,just think about the removal of VAT and the freezing of our EU membership application. Then remember that voluminous Bidu Gdid ‘electoral manifesto’ in which we had to put up with hair brained ideas like boats passing from Grand Harbour to Marsamxett from underneath the city gate bridge, or the repeater class!
Marco Meli
Nov 1st 2011, 18:20
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha OMG i can't stop laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is surely the JOKE OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha
JOSEPH VELLA
Nov 1st 2011, 18:33
IDĦAQ ISSA, ĠĦAX XI SENA U NOFS OĦRA TĠĦIDX KEMM SE TIBKI
M. Chircop
Nov 1st 2011, 18:50
bir ragun tidhak naqra ta wara li ilek tibki ghall 20 sena shah, pero xejn ma nighdlek habib idhak issa ghax fl'elezzjoni li jmiss terga tirritorna ghall biki
Marco Meli
Nov 1st 2011, 18:55
Allura intom extension tac cajta????? U halluna trid!!!! dejjem tilghaqu!!!! x ma jmurx lura l pajjiz!!!! Biss sena u nofs ohra vera ha nibki, ax bir rata li sejrin ghar mil grecja ha nispiccaw!!!!
Mr leo attard
Nov 1st 2011, 19:36
@joseph vella ...... iva, ser jibki bil-ferh!
cesco di luigi
Nov 1st 2011, 18:18
This is not the same poisiton taken when there was a mess in the european programm agency funds (ministry of education)...if i recall correctly 3 members of staff at director level were ALL made to resign against their own will....and the shambles could not comapre with the bus route fiasco. 2 weights 2 measures.
Ivan M. Dingli
Nov 1st 2011, 18:17
Thares minn fejn thares lejn din il-kwistjoni..... pastazata mill-bidu sa l-ahhar!!! Dr. Gonzi, jiddispjacini imma kont nahsbek iktar rett minn hekk.
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Nov 1st 2011, 21:06
X differenza mill l ewwel diskors li kien ghamel meta lahaq kap. Ghidt dan bniedem onest li jista jibdel ftit il Malta. Kelli zball. Kemm kien ahjar li rebah Dalli
Rod Enderby
Nov 1st 2011, 18:12
Why has it taken all this time to be made public?!
mark borg
Nov 1st 2011, 18:33
ha ha ha he was hiding !
Dione Azzopardi
Nov 1st 2011, 18:12
One thing is clear: this country cannot be run like this anymore, with the party in government always at odds with itself. At least Dr. Alfred Sant when confronted by his troubled times opted for an early election so the country would not go through such moments of anxiety. But maybe it is too much to ask of Gonżi.
Ivan Mizzi
Nov 1st 2011, 18:24
Ibqa ohlom Dione.
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Nov 1st 2011, 18:30
PN always runs at all cost after political power. Since 1921 the PN never resigned from power not even when its' policies were inclined in favour of Italy during the Mussolini regime between 1922 and right up to the start of the Second World War!! And that is why the same Party governed for 12 years when their main adversary political parties had immortal sin if electors voted for such parties.
john muscat
Nov 1st 2011, 17:52
Then why Dr. Gonzi didn't take the opportunity to accept his resignation? Or only for Mr. J. Dalli?
simon borg
Nov 1st 2011, 18:24
well said. but the goose seems to be more equal then the gender......Mr Dalli's resignation was brought about on false assumptions and lies, whilst Dr Gatt's managerial abilities are there for all of us to see.
the PN seems to be very much influenced by Orwell's theories
Mario Vella Laurenti
Nov 1st 2011, 17:48
Why not, dear Prime Minister? You had a great chance to get rid of him! - and maybe even win the election! But you missed your chance and now he'll hang around until the end of the mandate.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 19:14
Oh Mr Vella Laurenti - do not be naive. Gonzi cannot change the cabinet. Even to appoint his minister he needed th permission of a certain RCC.
We only have a shadow PM being controlled from behind the scenes by ..............................
Mark Brincat
Nov 1st 2011, 17:44
Il-Malti ma haqqu xejn ahjar ghax injorant u jcapcap lil minn jghaddi z-zmien bih.
Brian Portelli
Nov 1st 2011, 18:29
Prosit Mark.... well said
Franco Ebejer
Nov 1st 2011, 19:36
EZATT !!!
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Nov 1st 2011, 17:43
Now after all the public transport disaster the Prime Minister is admitting that the fault rest with the Cabinet. Then the Cabinet should resign at once!!
The Prime Minister should have accepted the resignation of the Minister of Transport.
But then on the other hand it is crystal clear that the Prime Minister, as he stated to the previous US Ambassdor, has no capable MP's from his party to choose from to form a new Cabinet.
This is the whole truth and nothing but the truth!!
V. Cauchi
Nov 1st 2011, 17:37
The fine mesh of democratic involvement - individual MPs, individual ministerial responsibility, collegial ministerial responsibility, TM regulatory authority, Arriva, individual bus drivers, commuters - all going round and round while everyone gets away with it and passes the buck around. A lesson in bus ridden democracy, indeed!
Peter Azzopardi
Nov 1st 2011, 17:33
Eeeee,eheeee teghfa ir rezenja, eeeeee qas konna nafu. miskin hassitthu il kuxxejza, miskin. Mela stembah mir raqda, ghax l ahhar li tlellem qal , li kien behsiebu li jiehu naghsa twila. Mela holom bil poplu li qieghed igerger. Issa li Gonzi qal li rresponsabilita hi tal gvern u mhux ta Dr Austin Gatt biss, allura se xolji gvern, u le ta' ghax konna qed niehdu gost nisimghu n narawkom titmermru.
Mr J Xerri
Nov 1st 2011, 17:23
So Dr Debono is being offered the proverbial carrot - the merit of the latest reform in the transport system.
Would the Cabinet had gone to such length to appease Dr Debono , if it had a majority of two or more? Is the respect for Dr Debono opinion that is driving the Cabinet, or the prospect of having to vote down the Opposition's motion with the help of the Speaker?
If the merit is being attributed to Dr Debono, does this mean that the Government would not have acted if this MP did not put his foot down?
A Dimech
Nov 1st 2011, 17:48
Good questions!!
So much so that at first Austin replied "I am not loosing any sleep over it!"
Now, we hear that he offered to resign. DO you see a contradition here? The contradiction is explained by the fact that they are doing everything to avoid an embarassment in Parliament - which they will avoid - you wait and see!
lilly vella
Nov 1st 2011, 17:19
mela jinzel gatt , jinzel gonzi.
G Schembri
Nov 1st 2011, 17:15
“Minister Gatt has assumed political responsibility and so does Cabinet,” Dr Gonzi - How will they do this, they will not hand in their resignation, will they renounce their salary for a month? No nothing of the sort, they will only pay lip service to shouldering responability and once Franco Debono votes for the government they will drink a toast and forget all about it. While the people will still suffer the concequences of their bad decisions and they will still be traveling in their chauffeur driven luxurious cars, and never experience a minute queuing for the bus.
J.C. Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 17:07
QED TARA FRANCO KEMM GHANDEK MIN IHOBBOK, KOLLHA SE JOVVOTAWLEK FL'ELEZZJONI LI JMISS.
TAKE CARE!
Paul Cassar
Nov 1st 2011, 17:03
IF ALL THE CABINET TAKES FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS SHAME.......................................................................................then all should resign................elementary Dr Watson.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 17:34
The above is the "gospel" according to Paul Cassar and the insistent refrain all the other impatient LP supporters praying for a premature election for any reason whatsoever and even for no reason at all.
Thomas Mifsud
Nov 1st 2011, 18:00
Haha Mr Saliba are you serious when saying for no reason at all? I don't support any political party but its a joke to say that this government hasn't done enough to go down before the elections. It should have gone down months ago after all the bad decisions and all the failures this government is having. Come on lets get serious about our politics because after all its our own life. Stop talking colours, start accepting the truth. Unfortunately PN lost all directions and are doing harm to the island and to the people.
Alfred Vassallo
Nov 1st 2011, 18:13
@Francis Saliba M.D.
'The above is the "gospel" according to Paul Cassar'
But it is a sound Gospel. No?.....for the ones who are not blinkered, that is.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 19:48
@ Thomas Mifsud & Alfred Vassallo.
The very multiplicity and frequency of demands for resignations of some NP member of parliament or another, always from the LP ranks are all the proof necessary that there is no single authentic reason for the despairing pleas for a premature election so as to provide yet one more opportunity for the LP to interrupt its monotonous sequence of electoral losses.
The date for the next election is the prerogative of the incumbent prime minister. He would be foolish to allow himself to be outmanouvered by any misguided NP backbencher acting in league with the opposition.
That is the "gospel truth" - not Paul Cassar's wishful thinking.
l vella
Nov 1st 2011, 20:00
Mr Saliba M.D. , i am not praying for an election, i am just praying for an adequate bus service to take me from point A to B in the shortest time possible, without the bonus of a sightseeing tour.
Thomas Mifsud
Nov 1st 2011, 20:28
Mr Saliba, with all the long and difficult words you wrote down, no one is impressed. All I can see is someone trying to hang on to power just for the sake of hanging on, I can't see any pride of what the government has done to the country. Hope people like you will be swept away for the good of us Maltese people. When you go against the absolute majority your abusing from power, and that's what the government and Dr Gonzi's friends are doing!!
Konrad Scicluna
Nov 1st 2011, 16:57
Am I missing something here?
According to the article above, Dr Franco Debono has left everybody guessing as to what he will be doing this coming Friday.
Reading some of the comments I get the impression that either some people know things that are not printed here or else they just get carried away by other readers' comments and reply to these without reading the main article.
pat muscat
Nov 1st 2011, 16:57
Then the whole Government should resign! Such a straight forward reform; upgrade drivers and buses without touching routes and GonziPN messed it up! Pompous and mediocre Government indeed!
Victor Laiviera
Nov 1st 2011, 16:53
Someone should explain to Dr Gonzi and his government what "taking responsibility" means. They seem to think that it means simply saying "I am responsible" and going on as if nothing has happened.
In countries where good governance is valued and important, "taking responsibility" for a disaster like the public transport reform would mean resignations.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 17:11
You do that "explaining" to Dr Gonzi and not on these blogs, please. Something tells me that Dr Gonzi would not attach great importance to your comments in these blogs about what "good governance" is about - not with your track record of blind eulogies of your Mintoff-KMB party "right or wrong".
G Schembri
Nov 1st 2011, 17:21
Dr Saliba - Dr Gonzi and Cabinet (like you) are too arrogant to attach any importance to anyone who is not a part of their REGIME. Funny yo0u should mention KMB, He was the only Prime Minister who traveled with the people and walked down Republic Street to Parliament. Had he been Prime Minister he would have known what the people are going through. Unlike the present Prime Minister and Cabinet who are too arrogant to listen to the people and would not consider traveling with them to know what they are going through. I wonder have you used Arriva?
Victor Laiviera
Nov 1st 2011, 17:32
@ Francis Saliba
Can you provide some examples of these "blind eulogies", please? Even one will do.
Or were you just saying the first thing that came into your head?
Joe Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 17:33
@ laviera
All this fuss about resignation -- I think resignation is the easy way out for anyone -- Better if he stays there and goes through the hard work of fixing things, rather than just dumping the problem on his fellows -
iddahlu kelma f'halkhom ...... short sighted as usual -- how come am not surprised !!
A Cuschieri
Nov 1st 2011, 17:51
@ Laiviera
Kieku jirrezenja zgur li tghid li hu bahri tal-bnazzi u li kif ra d-dghajsa teghreq harab ...
B'rizenja kull ma tkun qed taghmek huwa tahrab mill-problema. Hekk ghallinqas qed jiffacjaha u forsi jsolviha, mhux iwikkiha lil ta warajh.
Alfred Vassallo
Nov 1st 2011, 18:18
@ Francis Saliba M.D.
''not with your track record of blind eulogies ''
Now look who is talking about blind eulogies. Come on again Mr. Saliba.
V Mercieca
Nov 1st 2011, 16:52
u il-poplu kemm hsibtu cuwc sur-prim ministru
ahjar accejtat ir-rizenja ta' Gatt u kont tifranka li il-gvern jkompli jodos u il-poplu jkompli jbghati
A Dimech
Nov 1st 2011, 16:45
NOBODY KNEW THAT AUSTIN OFFERRED TO RESIGN!!!!
what a load of hypocrits!! tehy kept it well hidden? or are they making it up, just now to put pressure on Debono?!!
and Debono now is going to back down!! he is going to back down to this psychological pressure and manipulation
Carmel Zammit
Nov 1st 2011, 16:40
“The party electoral programme was clear that a public transport reform would happen and that routes not dependant on Valletta would be introduced.
This is a tentative to escape responsibility whilst shifting it on the electorate.
Nowhere does the party electoral programme say that traffic on our roads was to increase dramatically as a result of the reform. Dr. Gonzi needs to understand that the people should not be taken for a ride each and every time an issue arises. Double talk would not solve problems. Introducing routes not dependant on Valletta is not the same as substituting certain routes with others not converging on Valletta as is the case now. Equally nowhere does the electoral programme say that Mater Dei would cease to be served by direct routes. Additionally the reform was to see a drastic reduction of cars on our roads, may be Dr. Gonzi would confirm that this is what actually happened.
If Dr. Gatt's resignation has not been accepted Dr. Gonzi is assuming the responsibility for the mess the public transport finds itself in now. Where are the shelters that were promised? Why are commuters left without shelters be it sun or rain? Why leave problems to drag on for months on end? Why spend some much money on consultations that produced nothing but hardship to the people? Why should Dr. Gonzi endorse this humiliation of the Maltese public? Why are discussions being held amongst PN party officials only? As if they are the ones that use public transport not the public in general. When will Dr. Gonzi assume his responsibilities as Prim Minister of Malta not only PN leader?
Joseph E Briffa
Nov 1st 2011, 22:49
Traffic congestion has been wih us for years and has not been affected by the introduction of the new bus service. A drive from San Gwann to Valetta during the morning rush hour has always taken me almost 45 minutes during school days. Take today, it only took me 20 minutes to Valetta because it is a school holiday. One could see how quiet the roads were the whole morning, simply because schools were on holiday.
Philip Pryce
Nov 1st 2011, 16:40
So the whole cabinet takes responsibility? Why don't you all resign then. Bye bye!
D Farrugia
Nov 1st 2011, 16:38
Lawrence Gonzi should go then.
G Mangion
Nov 1st 2011, 17:46
D Farrugia
Dream On !!!
G . Mangion.
J Busuttil
Nov 1st 2011, 16:34
Even if the transport situation will be a 100 % perfect all will still complain as long as there is no change in government. If this happens today only 25% of the underneath bloggers will exist were Arriva is concerned.
l vella
Nov 1st 2011, 16:44
imma kif kollox politika tara ?
int kuntent bl Arriva ? jien le !
kieku kienu il PL l istess nghid
A Dimech
Nov 1st 2011, 16:54
the issue is the the situation is far from being 100% perfect. Speak to the people who have to use the bus service....
A Cuschieri
Nov 1st 2011, 16:56
Proset!
Mr J Xerri
Nov 1st 2011, 17:08
.... and the other 75% would then try to blame the PL for this mess
Louis Craus
Nov 1st 2011, 16:33
Xi hlew! kemm hu gentlom. Niggustah jien lil dan il- ministru, kemm ihobb jiccajta. Tiftakru meta qal, li xorta ser jorqod? Mela Manuel Delia, ( dak li qal li t-trasport ser jimxi fuq ir-rubini), offra r-rizenja tieghu lil Austin, u Austin ma laqghahiex. Imbaghad Hu offra, r-rizenja lil dak li ghandu Par idejn sodi, u anke lil dan skappatlu. Hawwadni ha nifhem. Kollu tort ta' Joseph Muscat.
Ryan Dalli
Nov 1st 2011, 16:27
The usual parochial politics of this island.
While at the same time, it's the people have to pay the consequences.
Protest on Friday, 4th. Valletta.
Reboot - Ghal Trasport Pubbliku Ahjar
M Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 16:43
Do you live in Malta Ryan ?
Did you read or hear of the change in routes that is taking place as from 6th November ?
If you do know about them ,don't you think that you are jumping the gun with your protest ?
Ryan Dalli
Nov 1st 2011, 17:15
Mr.Borg, have you read about the type of buses that are actually coming on the 6th of November?
Do you really believe that the next 36 buses that actually pollute more than the current ones really do justice with the revolution in public transport that was promised last July?
Jon Briffa
Nov 1st 2011, 17:27
M Borg.
The people have a right to protest
G Schembri
Nov 1st 2011, 17:28
M Borg Arriva has taken us for a ride, WE WILL ALL PROTEST ON FRIDAY, to show Arriva and the Regime that we mean business and we will continue protesting until the Public Transport becomes acceptable. We have waited long enough four months should have been more than enough for the system to work well.
Toni Cardona
Nov 1st 2011, 17:33
On 4th July, 2011, some wise guy told us to "think of the hours, day in day out, week in week out, spent stuck in fuming traffic jams. The public asked us to undertake a radical overhaul and we delivered no less! We already take for granted bus stops that actually tell you what time to expect a bus to show up!''
I live in Malta as I am sure Ryan does. I have read and heard of the changes in routes that are taking place as from 6th November, as much as I have experienced all the changes that have occurred since 3rd July 2011. It's exactly because I do know about them, that I do not think that we are jumping the gun with Friday's protest. We have been treated like dirt far too long. Last week it took me 2 hours 20 minutes to get to Mater Dei, while with the old smoky bone-shaking rattling bangers it used to take me 40 minutes at maximum.
I would like to thank Ryan and the rest of the team for setting an example to all of us 'gemgem' but weak citizens.
Shame on all political parties, workers' unions and all the talk-talk-talk groups we appear to have plenty of in Malta.
Doris Farrugia
Nov 1st 2011, 17:46
Still the Gudja/Ghaxaq route nowhere to be seen.Maybe because Dr.Debono lives there?The promised X5 is not going to cater for our villages but from M'Scala to the airport.The 135 from M'Scala via airport to Mater Dei so no bus for us!!!!
James Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 21:48
@ M Borg
Do YOU live in Malta?
Didn't you read that this is the 4th or 5th upgrade of the routes and system in general. And that in spite of this we are still basically where we were before.
Didn't you read that there was to be a protest in August or September but that it was called off because an upgrade was in the pipeline? We cannot depend on promises any more.
Shall postpone this protest again? And again and again because we are being promised that things will finally get better?
Alexander Pace Gouder.
Nov 1st 2011, 16:24
QUOTING YOUR HEADING BY PM" Transport Minister Had Offered his resignation" - Hip Hip Hurra. WHY DO WE GET TO KNOW NOW? Why not at the Time he tendered his resignation? U l-Farsa Tkompli!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jew ahjar GHAL POPLU MALTI -tragedja.
M Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 16:22
" Minister Gatt has assumed political responsibility and so does the Cabinet. "
This proves how wrong Franco Debono is to ask for the resignation of Austin Gatt. The public transport reform was or is not only his responsibility but of all the Cabinet.
It is a case of " collective responsibility " so what exactly does Franco Denono want ??
alfred seguna
Nov 1st 2011, 16:22
Who said that we don't have a culture of resignations?The problem is that we have an anti dote i.e.we have also a culture of NOT accepting the resignation offered.I think that people should be treated better and not like fools.Voters deserve better.
Lawrence Fenech
Nov 1st 2011, 16:19
Parole parole parole.........................................
M camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 16:15
zmien il-buzullotti spicca LOL Kien hemm ihor qal biex ma inhalux fidejn xi cucc Malti INFATTI kellu ragun rajtu xjigri meta thalli fidejn cucc malti :)
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 16:11
Tell it to the marines!
R Axisa
Nov 1st 2011, 16:01
U kif hadd ma kien jaf li L-Onor Austin Gatt kien offra r-rizenja tieghu???? Seta' kien veru u seta' ma kienx, ghax la din qed tintqal issa, tista' tkun storja ppjanata. Bhal meta student jghid lill-ghalliema li jkun ghamel il-homework imma nesa l-pitazz id-dar!!! Jipprova jikkonvinci lill-ghalliema li l-homework ikun ghamlu, imma ovvjament l-ghalliema tghidlu li la ma gabux mieghu, daqs li kieku m'ghamel xejn!
C. Muscat
Nov 1st 2011, 15:54
Din ma ghandha x'taqsam xejn l-ebda kuxjenza. Din hi kontra ministru tal-gvern u jew in-Nazzjonalisti inkluz FC huma mal-gvern jew ghandu jaqa l-gvern.
Arriva hi dizastru li ghamlet lin-nies bhas sardin..kemm tiflah tghabbi go karozza tghabbi. Jekk in-nazzjonalisti ma humiex mixtrija minn JM ghandhom jibqghu fil-gvern u jirrangaw it-trasport pubbliku minghajr ma jibqghu ihallsu mill-kaxxa ta Malta.
Jek FC hu tajjeb daqs kemm jahseb messu joffri ruhu lil Gonzi biex jirranga s-sitwazzjoni. Naturalment Gonzi mhux iblah u ma ghandux bzonn pulikarja.
Victor Calleja
Nov 1st 2011, 15:54
kemm se dumu tadduna biz zmien.
Mark Piscopo
Nov 1st 2011, 15:54
The Eur2000 salary increase a month for the minister was because Dr Gonzi wanted more accountability and professional people. Dr Gatt and his people told us that we were going to have a state-of-the-art Public Transport in Malta and people will use more the Public Transport. We have paid millions from our Taxes euros to get a decent Bus System. The current situation is that it is taking us three times as much time to get from point A to point B and people are preferring using their own means of transport, thus creating a real havoc in the streets especially early in the morning. People are getting to work late and is really affecting drastically our lives. Our Malta needs an imminent change in Government.
Allan Gatt
Nov 1st 2011, 15:52
Now now, Mindy, what do you say when someone offers you their resignation for a national fiasco? That's right. You say yes please and thank you very much. She's smart for her age, isn't she?
Henry S. Pace
Nov 1st 2011, 15:50
Had Franco Debono was on a field where football is played he would be given the RED Card for bringing the game into disrepute
Henry S. Pace
Nov 1st 2011, 15:48
So it appears that Franco Debono is the PN's court jester. Always looking forward to be in the lmelight at the expense of his party. Every morning he tries to draw all the country's attention on him to be in the NEWS.
He is putting the counry as a ' laughing stock ' to the whole world.
Kenneth Williams
Nov 1st 2011, 15:47
Jien nahseb li mhux il ministru Gatt biss ghandu jirrizenja imma d deputati tal gvern kollha ax zmien dan it teatrini ilu li ghadda dawn l ahhar 4 snin dejjem b xi haga... ghamlu l wisgha forsi ncaqalqu r rota ghax hlejtu wisq hin tippruvaw tirrangaw il kunflitti ta bejnietkhom u dejjem ghal spejjez cioe SPEJJEZ taghna t tax payers ghajjejna nhallsu ghall zbalji li qed jiswewlna spejjez enormi u intom hlief tiehdu zieda u promotions ghal backbenchers bla performance ta xejn mghamiltux...HASSARTUNA
Carmel Xuereb
Nov 1st 2011, 15:47
Il-PN ha jaghmel kemm irid emmendi ghal mozzjoni tal-PL biex il-Ministru Gatt jerfa r-responsabilta imma bir-responsabilta li jerfa jrid jirrezenja. Tkun iktar haga ta' rgulija jekk jirrezenja milli tghaddi l-mozzjoni tal-PL. U jekk fil-kaz Dr. Debono jerga jibdielu u jara li bl-emmenda li jridu l-PN huwa bizzejjed allura minn ghawn nghid lil Dr. Debono li huwa mhux tajjeb biex izomm kelmtu ghax minn kelmtu stess tohrog li l-Ministru Gatt ghandu jirrezenja jew jitwarrab ghal dak kollu li sar fil-kwistjoni ta' l-Arriva. u mhux hekk biss qal jew ta li wiehed jifhem imma li hemm bzonn ndahhlu l-kultura Ewropeja li kull MInistru ghandu jerfa r-responsabilta ta' dak li jigri fil-Ministeru tieghu anke l-izbal li jsirmill-inqas impjegat tahtu. Hekk isir gewwa l-Ingliterra fejn id-demokrazija parlamentari dejjem imxiet hekk u l-ministur koncernat kellu jirrezenja. Dawk huma l-irgiel vera li jissagrifikaw il-karriera taghhom minhabba zball ta' haddiehor.
Mark Muscat
Nov 1st 2011, 15:47
Its true there has been chaos in the Transport system in the past months, but I dont think Austin Gatt should be forced to resign over this issue. After all he has done very well in all other sectors, for instance IT. He has been a pioneer in the PN for decades and I dont think he should be treated this way by a new political amature of a failure that was intended for the better of all the Maltese people.
A Dimech
Nov 1st 2011, 16:40
like SMART city 2,600 employees you mean?!!
A Dimech
Nov 1st 2011, 15:41
if he offered his resignation, but it was not made public ==> amounts to nothing. They are just building a smoke screen and psychological pressure on Debono.
Masters of psychology.
Mr Hans Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 15:37
How can the Prime Minister accept a resignation from his best talent within his 'limited talent pool'? Ohh!! Is Austin the PM's best talent?!
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 16:06
If he is the best, what are the others - the worst?
godwin difesa
Nov 1st 2011, 16:23
I agree 100% with you Austin is one from the best ministers this country . .Hope things will be solved as soon as possible with the transport as it good for many people.
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 17:01
Oh Malta, cry for all of us! With ministers like el supremo who needs enemies? Malta Malta, where ar' thou Malta? Gone to the dogs because these people are clinging to power. Do they not learn that dictators are resented by the people and the PN are not better than dictators.
Do not impose on the people what you want but give them what they want.
PLEASE REMEBR ALL READERS - this fiasco is to satisfy the Piano monstrosity at 400 million.
Apart from that, during the period of the manifesto the idea was to have an undergroung terminus. Eventually, lately el supremo stated that the undergroung terminus had been shelved. So what was in the manifisto?
You are giving the next election on a silver plate to the PL. I am sure that for the first 5 years they will not do as bad as you have been doing.
Paul Cauchi
Nov 1st 2011, 15:35
Jirrezenja?! Jekk sar zball, l ewwel irid jitranga qabel ifarfar mill pozizzjoni kerha li qied fiha u jabbi lil ta warajh b dil problema.
Joseph Calleja
Nov 1st 2011, 16:17
Naqbel mieghek.
R Axisa
Nov 1st 2011, 15:34
Who said that "zmien il-buzullotti" is over?????? I wonder whether he knows what it's meaning is!!!!!
Charles Sammut
Nov 1st 2011, 15:33
It's a pity the new house of parlament and theatre are not completed yet!
This Castille Comedy could have been staged on the site of the old theatre and it would have been a blockbuster....of course,full of blockheads and crap artists for actors!
...and the beat goes on...and the beat goes on.......
Victor Vella
Nov 1st 2011, 15:33
Miskin Alla hares Austin resigns.X`telfgha it would be for Malta. Kemm ha kibku ta` l-universita u dawk il-haddiema li spiccaw b`nofs paga mmnaqsa. Imsieken!!!!!!
D Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 15:31
But the MAIN issue is ACTUALLY that
HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS euros of TAXPAYERS' money have been 'wasted'...or rather donated...
is this sheer incompetence, or a case of making (read stealing) hay while the sun shines...??
Noel Mifsud
Nov 1st 2011, 15:29
SUr PM niiringrazjak talli zammejt lil Sur Gatt fil kabinett. Bis sahha tieghu hu qalilna li l buzulotti spiccaw fit 2 ta Lulju, u mit 3 ta Lulju bdiet l era karnivaleska mill Arriva, mghejjuna mill izjed kummidjanti bravi li qatt dehru fuq wicc id dinja minn Charlie Chaplain l hawn. Onorevoli PM veru qed tghin hafna lil poplu, kif ghedt wara ir referendum tad divorsju, ghax wara dan id disastru kollu mill Arrive u Dak li ried jirrizzenja u int accetajtx, minn Lulju l hawn kull xahar dejjem gholejt il petrol jew id diesel; u dan b appogg lil Maltin talli bid diastru li hloqtu qed ikollhom juzaw it trasport taghhom. Veru gibtu dal pajjiz id dahqa ta l Unjoni Ewropeja. Grazzi ja poplu talli ivvutajna IVA biex biex nipprovdu dal waqtiet komici lil Unjoni Ewropeja f dan iz zmien ta dizaztru tal Euro.
m. borg
Nov 1st 2011, 15:28
Bet Franco Debono will chicken out.
Victor Calleja
Nov 1st 2011, 15:53
Ga beda jimmola fil fatt
Joe Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 15:28
Everyone bla bla blaing on arrogance. If it wasn't for minister Gatt, who has guts, we will still be stuck with the arrogant bus drivers, arrogant street hakwers in valletta, arrogant dockyard workers. Not to mention that now we have a state of the art IT infrastructure in Malta that to Minister Gatt...
ALBERT FENECH
Nov 1st 2011, 16:03
Hurrah! According to Joe Borg, Minister Dr Austin Gatt has replaced Dom Mintoff as Malta's saviour! It seems that Dr Gatt has rid Malta of all its arrogance - that is EXCEPT HIS OWN which is still abundantly with us.
Once more, the PM is guilty of bad misjudgement. First he voted against the wishes of the electorate on Divorce and now he informs us he refused Dr Gatt's resignation when the electorate was pleading for it.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 16:06
You can have him gift wraped for Christmas
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 15:28
What is this, a commedy of errors?
This is ridiculous abou the part manifesto with so many unfulfilled promises. The way it was presented did not signify the mix up and removal of dorect routes. IOt did not mention going round Malta to get from point A to B or the absolute inefficient service. The manifesto gave the impression of better buses and civil drivers.
If you truly wanted to resign you should have done so, Is the NP truly a democratic party? If yes no one can stop you from resigning. It was all bluff.
The real reason for this mix up is to sartify the Piano monstrosity. Why was it not passed through parliament, why was there no budget provision for the 400 million? Why must passengers suffer for a mad dream or better still a nightmare?
a. xuereb
Nov 1st 2011, 15:27
what a load of bull......................
E Gatt
Nov 1st 2011, 15:27
are you kidding me the PM refused the resignation of the one person that all of Malta wants resigned as soon as possible
Luciano Pace Parascandalo
Nov 1st 2011, 16:17
funny how arrogance turns its tails into including everyone in one's wishes....kindly don;t include everyone as all of Malta :)
Charles Micallef
Nov 1st 2011, 15:26
The problem that this Government / Country faces, is that with a parliamentary majority of only one seat, Ministers who cock things up will not be allowed to do the honorable thing and resign as happens in most democracies, as if they did they will all be out of a job..............and the 'pappa' come first!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 15:21
Much ado about nothing! (Not Shakespeare but Dr Debono)
John Micallef
Nov 1st 2011, 15:17
Lima ghadd tad0 Divinia Comedia hu dan pls???
Francis Saliba M.D.
Nov 1st 2011, 16:39
Id-Divina Commedia ma hix dak li bil-Malti insejhulha "kummiedja" jew "farsa". Fost il-kapitli taghha dwar l-Infern, il-Purgatorju u l-Genna ma ssib l-ebda isem ta' xi membri tal-parlament Malti ghax dawn ma kienux jezistu meta nkiteb il-kapolavur ta' Dante Alighieri.
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Nov 1st 2011, 15:16
This is great news.
So Manuel Delia offers his resignation to Dr Austin Gatt and Gatt refuses it, later Gatt offerrs his resignation to Gonzi and he refuses it
Maybe its time to call an election dear prime minister and than the public will decide if you should resign.
Shame on you prime minister, the salary increase for the minister was because you wanted more accountability and professional people. You are a disgrace for the country and party. True nationalist cannot vote for the PN until you will be the leader
David Griscti
Nov 1st 2011, 15:14
The devil is in the detail.
Quoted from the report above:- "that if an amendment to the motion was moved, Dr Debono should take merit for it"
The country needs real leadership in these difficult times, and such leadership can only be tested on the basis of facts. Few seem to realise that what really counts right now is whether or not Malta is able to maintain fiscal discipline and contain debt ratios. Currently Malta is, together with very few others such as Germany and Finland, in a very healthy position in this respect. It is those fundamentals that will ensure that Malta survives the severe economic and financial crisis without having to drastically cut public service salaries, cut down on social services and lay off thousands of workers.....not immature and self-important posturing or petty political squabbles.
Anthony Paris
Nov 1st 2011, 15:05
We have not heard anything from Gonzi about voting according to your conscience. I guess there must be one or two PN MP's who can see beyond the spin and feel that the interests of their constituents were not served by Austin Gatt's projects despite the millions of taxpayer funds that were spent. Unfortunately the chances are high that Franco Debono will be made an offer that he can't refuse, and life will go on with the electorate not being truly represented by their supposed elected representatives.Conversely, if Franco Debono votes for the motion then he will be voting for the genuine democratic process that we are told we enjoy in these islands.
Mr Charles Falzon
Nov 1st 2011, 15:04
Prosit Austin. Rebha certa ghall Partit Nazzjonalista fl elezzjoni li jmiss.
Nicholas Cassar
Nov 1st 2011, 15:02
Malta need change to be changed! shame on those who say that everything is going smooth in this country!
noel psaila
Nov 1st 2011, 15:01
kollha purcinelati dawn, meta ser nitghallmu nkunu kredibli fdan il pajjiz?????????????
Noel Mifsud
Nov 1st 2011, 14:59
B min tahseb qed tidhaq PM. Lanqas liu ma dehrtx il bierah tlaqlaq fuq TVM. U kieku stess veru offra ir rizenja kif ma aqccetajtix. Mela jekk qed tametti li il bidla sejra hazin, se tibqa tapoggjah. Sur Debono, jien kieku ghaoija ma nivvutalekx ghax diga twice dort fl ahhar, power station u 500 euros, issa nispera li tigbor giehek u izomm mad diksors li ghedt. Grazzi
Kevin Formosa
Nov 1st 2011, 14:54
X'kumbinazzjoni?? Hehe nahseb bewluh bl-ghajjet u theddid lil kid!!
Nammira lil PN ghall hazen u makkakkeriji li ghandhom li ser jwassalhom biex jirbhu l-elezzjoni li jmiss.....
I Bet €100
Dominic Chircop
Nov 1st 2011, 15:18
Compared to the PN strategists, Niccolo Macchiavelli was just an amateur !
THOUGH HE WAS AN EXPERT ON POWER, AND HOW TO RETAIN IT !
THOUGH HE WAS AN ADEPT AT IGNORING THE PEOPLE, BUT APPEAR TO LOVE THEM !
Angelo Buhagiar
Nov 1st 2011, 14:54
well done Franco, hekk ghandu jkun membru li jirraprezenta l-poplu.
Randolph Said
Nov 1st 2011, 14:53
“The routes introduced in July were approved by Cabinet and not only by Minister Gatt". This should be a no confidence vote in the government then rather then against Mr Gatt. About time! Malta does need a change.
noel psaila
Nov 1st 2011, 15:03
proset, hekk ghandu jssir, imma is siggu komdu !!
Mario P. Sciberras
Nov 1st 2011, 14:46
Cannibals. There is no cannibalism in Parliament, absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount. (Graham Chapman).
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 14:43
Franco Debono, you are another puppet. You are as important as el supremo but the party prefers arrogance to reasons. By stopping you the PN has doomed itself to a loss at the next elections.
Are you aware that routes 49 & 58 have not been reimnstalled, but even worse the bus stops on the old route have been marked as becoming obsolete and will not be used any more.
This is the democratic christian party clinging on the same basis as other dictators, Gaddafi et al, and still imposing hardship on the citizens. And all this because al supremo wanted a Piano.
George Calleja
Nov 1st 2011, 15:31
You seem to act like the prophet Elias!! You're always hoping and dreaming that the PN will loose the next general election. You've carried this fantacy since 1998 when after only 22 months, your fantastic MLP/PL lost an election because Alfred Sant was declared a failure by his own men. You've been dreaming since 1987 when the draconian Labour Party was doomed to the opposition for a quarter of a century. Dream on Frans!!!
catherine galea
Nov 1st 2011, 14:30
5th district proud of this decision !
Franco now you're really representing our opinions
A. Zammit
Nov 1st 2011, 14:27
This guy simply wants attention.
joseph mifsud
Nov 1st 2011, 14:25
franco tmurx kontra kliemek jekk ghadek fil kuxjenza tghid li ha tastjeni.franco zomm sod.hemm bzonn li jiehu tbezbiza is sur gatt.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Nov 1st 2011, 14:25
So, all this fuss is because of public transport!
This proves to show that in Malta, thank God, we do not have serious problems as one finds in major European countries, such as Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and even the U.K.!
In these countries, their citizens are fighting for their “daily bread” as unemployment is continually on the rise, while in Malta, we are complaining because our buses are late; yes because they are LATE!
What an anti-climax!
Should we not remind ourselves that our transport system is top notch when compared to the previous KARRETTI transport?
Today we have a transport system that eventually will be a state-of-the-art which will make all Malta proud; when did we have brand new buses that are
1) modern and air-conditioned and with easy access to people in wheel-chairs and those with difficulties to alight on buses
2) driven by well dressed drivers in clean uniforms and polite with the passengers
3) with Euro5 bus engines that are the cleanest on the planet?
It is becoming so evident that most of the complaints are POLITICAL and written by the usual D&GB (Doom & Gloom Brigade). These complaints are becoming so nauseating and tedious that one tends to skip these comments just by noticing the sender of these “comments”?
On a positive note, this means that our ECONOMY is performing MAGNIFICENTLY; and thus these commenters, members of the D&GB, do not find the need to write otherwise.
JC
Joseph Calleja
Nov 1st 2011, 15:14
Mr Cauchi you seem to be a one man brigade to save the PN. The reason the Citizens are complaining is because the Citizens (The Tax Payers), that is you and I, have paid MILLIONS of euros to get a decent Bus System. And how long do you think these magnificent buses will remain new and clean? Some drivers have already shown their true colours and they match the old ones. It is taking us three times as much time to get from point A to point B. Why not start riding this magnificent bus once in a while and find out for yourself, and please be fair and don't pick the easy routes. If you have any doubts about the incompetence of our bus system keep reading all the comments. Keep tab of how many positive or negative comments there are? The citizen is not deciding PN or PL, they want to get their money's worth. Fair enough?
C Demanuele
Nov 1st 2011, 15:22
dear JC,
i am not part of the D&GB and i acknowledge your comments. but my route is going to become worse than it was pre-arriva. and this will affect the economy as others like me will not have time to spent their income in the economy, but using the time to sleep the time we have to wake up in the morning.
and by all means, i have already met two arrogant 'new' drivers who think the commuters are just toys to be insulted at. btw i reproted on both counts.
m. borg
Nov 1st 2011, 15:28
"....we are complaining because our buses are late; yes because they are LATE!"
Do you know Mr. Cauchi snr how many have lost their jobs or how much money were deducted from their pay packet because of "...yes because they are late".
Obviously you are in a position not to suffer such loses otherwise you would keep you trap shut.
Joseph Mercieca
Nov 1st 2011, 14:22
tal-PL se jiehdu risposta...it-tama li kellhom li juzaw lil Franco Debono sfumat fix-xejn.
Franco ghandu sens bizzejjed biex jaghraf l-gid li jista joffri l-PM Gonzi u t-tim tieghu
Joseph N. Attard
Nov 1st 2011, 14:18
Those who were gleefully rubbing their hands in anticipation are in for a tiny surprise. Nobody in his right senses signs his own death warrant.
Maria Grech
Nov 1st 2011, 14:16
Dr. Debono thalli lil hadd juzak.
Well done..kont certa illi fl-ahhar is-sewwa jirbah zgur !
Voltino galea
Nov 1st 2011, 15:17
Waiting another year or less for a relief in JUSTICE.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Nov 1st 2011, 14:14
dur dur dur, Franco will not abstain.
Michael Gatt
Nov 1st 2011, 14:11
Stick to you princilles and you will be appreciated by one and all
M Abdilla
Nov 1st 2011, 14:09
Great...I was hoping to be rid of this farce of a minister
A Dimech
Nov 1st 2011, 14:08
I have been telling you not to hold your hopes; and that Debono would back off under pressure!!!
Next time, Dr Debono,please do us the favour and shut up! because we don't believe you anymore!
Charles Attard
Nov 1st 2011, 14:07
well done Franco...nahseb l-ahjar decizjoni. Isbah minn soluzzjoni madwar mejda m'hawnx. Karateristika tal-PN !
Joseph Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 14:06
Why am I not surprised?! It was pretty obvious at the outset and thats the way it will effectively be.
However, when the dust settles (after the next elections when the PN go to the opposition benches), and this is obvious too, they'll all be out at each other throat for this and other tragic commedies we are being subjected to. Its going to be fun! Thats obvious too!
Joseph Calleja
Nov 1st 2011, 14:05
Franco Debono is doing nothing more than putting sticks in the wheel so he can get his 15 minutes of fame. Well, he is accomplishing that OK, but I don't think he will go through with abstaining. Let's wait and see if he is a man of is word and how far he is going to carry this nonsense?
Charlene Bonnici
Nov 1st 2011, 14:00
Dr Debono we already have many puppets on the move. Are you just one of them????
Peter Pace O'Shea
Nov 1st 2011, 13:58
Who do they think they are fooling? These are the politicians that advocated democracy and transperancy. Respect the people who put you there and do not try to find any twists and turns to reamin in power. The fact that you appear to be devising a strategy not to resign is in itself an insult to us, yes to us Maltese citizens! Shame on you and your incompetence to do what is right and your competence to twist and turn to stay there! No wonder Dr. Austin will not be contesting once again.
E. Azzopardi
Nov 1st 2011, 13:57
If one does not intend to follow through to the last fullstop, what one has decided and proclaimed to all, then it is better not to open one's mouth in the first place. I was hoping that these young MP's would make a difference in our politics, but I was wrong. It seems that they do not have a mind of their own and are following the footsteps of their seniors. Not very good for the future. My credibility in this particular MP had taken a big plunge. I will not believe him any more in the future. It is waste of time. On the other hand, I was never sure that he would go through with this.
a. xuereb
Nov 1st 2011, 13:54
i thought that at least there is someone , MAN enough to say what is right for democracy,s sake. been waiting for someone in politics with beliefs that they say they have...............imma......... only in malta.....give us a break
Carmel Borg
Nov 1st 2011, 13:52
Nahseb ghal darb ohra Il-PN wera li dejjem jasal bid-diskussjoni. Prosit Franco talli urejt illi kif fl-ahhar mill-ahhar ir-ragun rebah u ma hallejt lil hadd jinqeda bik
FRANS H SAID
Nov 1st 2011, 15:33
what discussion? Terror is more like it.
a. xuereb
Nov 1st 2011, 13:42
it was to good to be true............
C Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 13:40
Dear Franco, your credibility is close to 0 if you go back on your word. You'll be just another puppet on a string
Maria Camilleri
Nov 1st 2011, 13:36
what a surprise !
Mr anton izzo
Nov 1st 2011, 13:35
Tara xejn veru pajjiz tal mickey mouse......... prosit lil John Bundy
Sandro Privitera
Nov 1st 2011, 13:35
Franco, stick to your guns ELSE resign!
Another u-turn?
Willie Grech
Nov 1st 2011, 13:29
"This strategy, the sources said, would ensure that there will not be a vote on the Opposition's motion."
A very simple way of blocking a democratic vote to take place!! The PN would be 'advising' the same Dr. Franco Debono to eliminate the PLs motion. "PN sources told timesofmalta.com this morning that Dr Debono was advised to propose an amendment to the motion which would be backed by PN group."
And Dr. Debono, the self propheced champion of democracy and accountability, what is he going to do? Tow the party line ..... or else?
Malta would be waiting to see how this bubbly lawyer will react on Friday.
m. borg
Nov 1st 2011, 13:29
Bet that Franco will chicken out.
Pat Hobson
Nov 1st 2011, 13:24
The comedy continues.... Until next time...
Brian Gatt
Nov 1st 2011, 13:21
And once Again PN managed to find a loophole to get out of a tricky situation .....PROSET WELL DONE !!!
If Dr Debono accepts this then he is really the Ninny and Nitwit as the PN bloggers tagged him.
This shows how low the PN can stoop!! Even if knowing that the people's interest are at stake they still try to get one of the Klikka out of the coffin he built for himself....Disgusting !!!
Mr Joe Micallef
Nov 1st 2011, 14:43
Mirror mirror on the wall who is the most disgusting of all!
Certainly you Gatt with your perceived knowledge and self assigned representation of people's interests!
W Cassar
Nov 1st 2011, 13:16
This apology amendment is really a cheeky move by the PN. Why cant the Minister, take it like the man he presumes to be!
This move continues to confirm my thoughts that these so called democratic (cough cough) politicians are in it for the power and money and nothing more.... another sad day for accountability and democracy!
BTW..An apology is not enough for the damage that has been done!