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Debono keeps his party guessing

Bus reform cost €55m

Austin Gatt (left) and Franco Debono (second from right) touring road works last year.

Austin Gatt (left) and Franco Debono (second from right) touring road works last year.

The Nationalist Party executive will meet again tomorrow evening in an attempt to avoid a potentially embarrassing situation as backbencher Franco Debono refuses to rule out abstaining in Friday’s vote ofno confidence in the Transport Minister.

This is about a reform, a major reform, but also about the way our democracy functions

Public transport reform is the only item on the meeting’s agenda and will continue on last week’s encounter which saw a detailed presentation by Austin Gatt, whose political future could be in the balance if Dr Debono abstains on the opposition motion.

If Dr Debono does abstain, the Speaker would have to use his casting vote given the government’s slender one-seat majority.

Although during last Monday’s executive meeting Dr Debono gave his colleagues the impression that he was “softening up” because of the way he spoke following Dr Gatt’s extensive presentation on the reform, he refused to answer questions when approached by The Times on Tuesday.

Contacted yesterday, Dr Debono kept his cards to his chest, but indicated he may still abstain.

“While it is true that the minister admitted political responsibility for the public transport mess, two days after I had declared I was going to abstain in the parliamentary no confidence vote, we are now witnessing a reform of the service, patching the reform by means of an overhaul, possibly indicating a completely wrong attitude to the reform.

“One must not forget the taxpayer forked out some €55 million for this reform, which ended up causing a public outcry from commuters,” he added.

Asked what he was expecting, Dr Debono said: “One would expect to see the established and accepted political practices in Western parliamentary democracies, including those of all other EU countries, in line with the constitutional doctrine of individual ministerial responsibility.”

When asked what his reaction would be if Dr Gatt tendered his resignation and it was refused by the Prime Minister, Dr Debono said: “That would complicate the scenario for the government.”

He said if this happened, Dr Gatt would have shouldered his responsibility in line with individual ministerial responsibility. With the Prime Minister’s decision to turn it down, it would have developed into “collective political responsibility, which means it would be the responsibility of the whole government rather than just one minister.

“I think party loyalty also means a minister should shoulder political responsibility not to further embarrass the whole government. This is about a reform, a major reform, but also about the way our democracy functions.”

It is unclear whether any attempt had been made, within the party structures, to convince him to vote with the government.

However, he has publicly denied there was any form of pressure for him to toe the party line except for ‘psychological pressure’ from fellow MPs who are clearly not on his side.

Sources close to the party spoke about the possibility of amendments to Labour’s resignation motion, which would appease Dr Debono, while officially and publicly admitting political responsibility for what happened.

During last Monday’s Nationalist Party Executive meeting, Dr Gatt on a number of occasions said he was shouldering political responsibility for the deficiencies in the new system.

He also gave a detailed analysis of Arriva’s shortcomings, presenting a ‘before and after’ picture of what Arriva promised and what it delivered.

Dr Debono may not even be present for tomorrow’s meeting due to personal commitments since a family member is currently recovering from surgery.

He said he had informed the party of this and invited the party to hold the meeting last week, but would do his utmost to attend.

mxuereb@timesofmalta.com

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Philip Hili

Nov 1st 2011, 13:30

@ John Pace

Bad in both!!!!!! Not trusted.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 12:04

@ mary mifsud

No proof for what you have said especially BWSC.
I can proof the embarrassment a mature politician like Dr. Franco Debono whereas you cannot do the same!!

Brian Gatt

Oct 31st 2011, 14:33

@ Philip Hili,

No embarassment? you must be kidding ux? Smart City was a success ux were are the over 5000 jobs promised during the last electoral campaign? no proof for the BWSC scandal? are you living in our dimension? foreign ministers resign for much less !! and to top it all the much publisized state of the art National Transport service which turned out into a National Flop.

So you are saying that this guy should walk away scot free - which most probably he will - and not be held accountable for his actions. Very democratic !!

Philip Hili

Nov 1st 2011, 00:46

@ Brian Gatt

Sur Gatt inutli toqghod tparla fil-vojt. Ahna fatti konkreti rridu mhux tlablib.

Giovann Demartino

Oct 31st 2011, 17:56

Nahsbek tifhem hafna INT, sinjura fil-heavy fuel oil!

Francis Saliba M.D.

Oct 30th 2011, 22:07

"So why should Franco be afraid to speak his mind and act in a manner he truly believes in?" (Henry Mifsud)

Because all those who are inciting him to create a crisis situation for his party, and possibly bring about an early election, will not vote for him in any future election and neither will he get again the vote of NP adherents who had elected him to parliament but who are outraged by what they consider treachery of the mandate they had given to him.

Julie Russell

Oct 30th 2011, 22:17

Very well said, i quite agree.

Mr Adrian Vella

Oct 30th 2011, 23:42

well said !!!

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 01:26

@ Henry Mifsud.

I am very sorry to say that you are immature as Dr Debono is!! Without going into the matter whether his right in his arguments or not, one thing is for sure. He is ambitious and he is after a ministerial seat!! That is for sure. He is holding us, the Nationalist electorate at ransom, a thing which is unacceptable. Most of "All Those" whom you mentioned in your comment are not going to vote for him, either because they side with Labour or because true Nationalist who are being kept at ransom by him, DEFINETLY are not going to vote for him NOT EVEN THE LAST PREFERENCE!!

Finally, you are supporting Dr. Debobo for his immaturity and at the same time you are not considering the mess he brought the PN in. Where on earth a Prime Minister of a Nation be subjected to call at a deputiy's residence and beg him to attend parliament to cast his vote, a thing which Dr. Debono constrained Dr. Gonzi to do? This is one of the many instances which show that Dr Debono is not loyal to his party and when I say his "party" I mean loyal to US because we the electorate elected him in parliament.. It is usless to say otherwise because facts are facts.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 01:27

@ Francis Saliba M.D

Very well said!!

Henry Mifsud

Oct 31st 2011, 06:59

So is that what democracy is all about Dr. Saliba and Ms. Russel? No wonder we are in the pity state we're in.
Level-headed people will ONLY vote for people like Dr. Debono, who managed to show us what mettle he is made of. Rest assured that none other than his own party in government with their arrogant ways are inciting him to take the action. He made it amply clear more than once that he is fed up and no one, except those heavily blinkered, blames him. To add insult to injury, those whom you are referring to as NP adherents, are constantly being subjected to all forms of abuse by your PN party in government. Rest assured that they shall not forget and they would be two-square behind Franco in time of truth. Franco managed to garner the support of many on both sides of the political divide; definitely not for the reasons you are trying to instill and make people believe but because of the reasons I highlighted above and many more. But then you conveniently did not comment on one single reason I gave. Why? Because deep down even you know that it is all true.

George Azzopardi

Oct 31st 2011, 12:46

Thanks for your comments, Francis Saliba and Mr.Hili ..

Should Dr.Franco Debono be looking at PN Bloggers here, I'm sure he'd say .. what the heck, I will do it my way. It certainly looks that I will not be getting any votes anyway whatever course he takes. And this of course, if he is accepted as a PN candidate in the first place.

I wonder why you're so afraid we'd go for elections a bit early .. everything is running so smooth and everyone is so happy. You should be sure that you'd be winning anyway!

Francis Saliba M.D.

Oct 31st 2011, 14:09

"So is that what democracy is all about Dr. Saliba and Ms. Russel?" (Henry Mifsud)

In the present context "domocracy" is about LP and NP voters casting their vote freely during election time. The intelligent ones will scrutinize Dr Debono's conduct and vote accordingly. My opinion is that voters on both sides of the political spectrum have been given ample reasons by Dr Debono himself why they should not vote for him.

I do not comment on any of the seven "reasons" given by you because in my opinion voters should vote with the common good in mind not because of personal chips on their shoulder in the hope that Debono would be able to induce either Muscat or Gonzi to accomodate them better.

What I know "deep down" is that your "reasons" can never justify Dr Debono's disloyalty to his leader, to his party and to those who had voted for him because he was an NP candidate.



Brian Gatt

Oct 31st 2011, 14:35

Well done couldnt have said it better myself !!

Brian Gatt

Oct 31st 2011, 14:45

@ Philip Hili,

Without going into the matter whether hi is right in his arguments or not, one thing is for sure. - that is your problem you are not analyzing whether Dr Debono is right or not in his claims. You know why because you know he is right - all the people know he is right including the Prime Minster himself, what everyone is trying to do is cover up the screw ups of an old timer who by his actions is flushing down the toilet millions of euros from the people's money!!!

Well Done Dr Debono stand up and be counted stick to your principles and believe me at the end you will be rewarded by your costituents who know that you are trying to obtain a better deal for them.

Francis Saliba M.D.

Oct 31st 2011, 15:16

" I wonder why you're so afraid we'd go for elections a bit early ... " (George Azzopardi).

Personally, I am neither "afraid" nor am I eager for an early election. On the other hand it is perfectly obvious that the LP would do anything to hasten the day when it could drag itself out of the seemingly never-ending rut of a party perennially assigned to the opposition benches. I fail to see what Dr Debono hopes to gain by joining forces with the LP in its quest.


Henry Mifsud

Oct 31st 2011, 16:08

Thank you Mr. Hili for illuminating us of the pity state the government is in. But then what do one expect from a government leading by just a one seat majority after obtaining a mere 1500 more votes in an election where a very high percentage turned up to vote? When Alfred Sant was in the same position as Gonzi has been for quite some time now, he did not think it twice to call for the electorate's mandate. But this cannot be claimed for Gonzi who has been clinging to power even though all signals have been hinting that not all is OK in his stables. I am supporting Dr. Debono because unlike what you state, he is very mature and is definitely not one who simply follows the herd. Of course you expect him to do otherwise under the pretence of party loyalty. But is this what democracy is all about? We know exactly how the nationalist deal with such situations and Franco is no exception. He knows that by being truthful and honest, he is going to face the consequences, irrespective of whether he abstains, votes in favour or against. Lest we forget how the PN dealt with Mario Felice, Josie Muscat and its own dear leader Gorg Borg Olivier. Lest we forget indeed! The PN might have won the battle with these gentlemen but rest assured that they have won the war and it is them who shall continue to be hailed as true gentlemen and not the rest who have been manipulating the electorate and playing musical chairs between them to sit on the highest echolons of this country. People are not stupid and at the end the truth shall prevail.
What is immature is the way you expressed yourself, Philip Hili, as it only shows that all you, like the PN in government, is interested in is to remain in power at all costs. That is immaturity at its best!

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 17:14

@George Azzopardi

"I wonder why you're so afraid we'd go for elections a bit early ." You are very much mistaken Dear Mr Azzopardi. As far as I am concerned, if the PN decides to go for an early election could get rid of at least four or five disloyal candidates who hijacked the Party and who are holding the Nationalist electorate at ransom.

Philip Hili

Nov 1st 2011, 00:52

@ Brian Gatt

Min jaf jekk kontx xi wiehed milli qlajtlu b'dak li ghandu u b'dak li ma ghandux!!!

Ara veru OQBRA MBAJDA. Kif tista' tafdakom fil-gvern. Ara hemmx xi ftit emails ohra!!!!!!
Jew qeghdin tippruvaw tnessu lill-poplu minn dik il-pastazata to Dr. Emails???

Hemm tkelmu!! Ara min qieghed jaspira biex ikun imexxi lil Malta - Ma!!! X'wahda din!!!!

Philip Hili

Nov 1st 2011, 01:12

@ Henry Mifsud

"as it only shows that all you, like the PN in government, is interested in is to remain in power at all costs."

Oh!! What? is this true??? - again " the PN in government, is interested in is to remain in power at all costs." So you do not want to remain in government? Mela fik hajt tal-kenn!!! Harbitlek il-maskra Nerik!!!! Qieghed imdawwar tajjeb mela Franco jekk wiehed minn ta' madwaru bhalek ma tridx toqghod fil-gvern!!! prosit ghalina, x'lifa fil-komma dik!!!! Isa, ivvutawlu ta!!!

Sinjuri votanti, dan hadd ma qalu dan id-diskors hlief wiehed minn ta' madwar franco debno!!!
Araw x'qal dan il-pampalun ta' madwar Franco Debono:- " I am supporting Dr. Debono because unlike what you state, he is very mature and is definitely not one who simply follows the herd." He is supporting Dr. Debono and at the same time he does not want to remain in government!!! In x'inti minn dawk tan- N.S.E.W.? Hallina Man. Ir-ross minn halqna niekluh ta!! Mela hsibt li qieghed tikkomunika ma xi erba qlafat jew!!

Nerik, "il-giddieb irid ikun gharef u fakkari"!!!!!!!!!!!



Joe B Edwards

Oct 30th 2011, 22:33

"55 million... 20 million are all commissions and corruption"
Prove it.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 01:35

@Joseph Camilleri

"We need the third party in this country " so that the nation will be held at ransom by this party!!!!!!!

Hallina man. Mela ma tafx x'jigri fejn hemm dak li qieghed tghid int??? Amministrazzjoni caqlembuta. Hemm inkunu qisna titanic!!!!

Are you living in space? Don't you know that the EU scrutinised the funds she gave to Malta and no corruption was pin pointed?? Or the third party will do the job for the EU and because the third party will have interests the third party finds corruption? Ma twilidniex il-bierah siehbi ta!!

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 01:37

@M Farrugia

VERY WELL SAID!!!

Giovann Demartino

Oct 30th 2011, 19:59

Thabbilx rasek Mark! Erbat ijiem ohra jkollna lil Joseph, sieheb Sabrina, u kollox jitranga. Jorhos iz-zejt u allura torhos il-hajja kollha. Jaghtina zidiet kbar, jaghti lura l-flus li thallsu fuq il-karozzi u l-Arriva tibda' tahdem fuq ir-rubini. Jispiccaw il-waiting lists fil-qorti u fl-isptar u jispicca l-hacking! Kemm intom fidili, jahasra. Imma ghal Franco Debono kollox jista' jissolva jekk jaghmluh ministru!

M. Bezzina

Oct 30th 2011, 20:48

Sadanittant Giovann daw l affarijiet li semmejt int stess bhall

'' Jispiccaw il-waiting lists fil-qorti u fl-isptar u jispicca l-hacking''

qed tiehu gost bijhom!!Ax trid tkun vera iblah!!! Sptar li jigi jiswa l miljuni u trid tistenna biex tkun operat !!Jew trid tmur thallas il belli liri provat ghand il konsulenti u qabel ma jerdawlek xi 466Euro jew 500euro a dritt ma jdahlukx fil lista hekk sew!!!!
Jien nikkritika lit 2 li huma ta ara tahseb li nzomm ma xi hadd partikulari ghax meta bazwar il PL hadta kontrih ukoll.
Ara int le mintix kapaci tkun kritku ghax il PN kollox tajjeb u jekk ikollok xi wihed bhall F/Debono jew JPO tehoda kontijhom u tajjarhom mill partit kif darba ktibt!!Kemm int Demokratiku qed nghid!!

Giovann Demartino

Oct 31st 2011, 07:09

Sfida semplici lil M Bezzina. Tahrabx, imma. Ghidilna INT kieku kont int responsabbli, kif taghmel biex taqta' l-waiting list fl-isp[tar. Issa kun ragel u spjegalna kif. Joseph lejliet l-elezzjoni se jghidilna. INT, imma, tista' ttina idea. Nistenna. Jien u l-qarrejja l-ohra.

George Azzopardi

Oct 31st 2011, 13:32

@Giovann Demartino .. ghalfejn qed isaqsi lil 'mark borg 'dil-mistoqsija .. dan ma hax 500 euro fil-gimgha zieda ta!!

Hallina sur Demartino hi!!! Gej bil-mistoqsijiet! Lilna qed issaqsi l-mistoqsijiet. Saqsijhom lil min ha l-mijiet fil gimgha extra gbin!!

Daz-zgur l-ewwel hallha l-waiting list titlha bl-eluf .. issa qed tipretendi li ntukhom soluzjoni kemm tfaqqa subajk. Jekk trid tkun honest issa ghidilna min gaba l-problema! U mhux ovja, l-inefficjenza jew management hazin li hala dal-gvern!!

Jien insaqsi lilek issa.. int gieli kellek tieghu lil xi hadd qarib tieghek l-emergenza? Xi xhur illu kellna niehdu lil ommi .. thalna l-emergenza fis 2pm. Sa l-ghada 1am din ghada gewwa Area 1 tistenna fuq siggu!! Hadt ghadu ma nvista! Anqas stretcher ta', fuq siggu! Kellu jmur hija jghidilhom biex ituwa sretcher biex tghaddi l-lejl ghax kieku kienu jhalluwa fuq siggu. mara anzjana din ta 78 sena! Saqsiethom ghal-bela kafe anqas biss gabuwliha!!

Tahseb li xi haga bhal din trid tkun xi gharef ta Salamun biex issolviha!!!


Sempliciment trid ikollok daqxejn management ahjar u efficjenza ahjar!!! Hallina jiggiffieri ut qed taghmetti hawn li-l-gvern taghkom qatta qalbu!!

Giovann Demartino

Oct 31st 2011, 15:57

@ George Azzoppardi...do you know who rushes in when angels fear to tread? Go in front of a mirror! Il-mistoqsija naghmilha lil min ghamel is-suggeriment. Min irid inaqqas il-waiting list nisfidah jghidilna HU kif. Min ha l-500 ewro injorant, imma intom li qed taghmlu s-suggerimenti, intom xempju ta' gherf. Ghidulna kif tnaqqsu l-waiting list. CHICKENS!

Meta recentament kelli qarib tieghi l-emergenza jew ghax rawni helu jew ghax jien tal-qalba...imma kienet VERAMENT emergenza......x'hin wssalna ahna l-isptar sibt t-tobba jistennewna u ma stennejniex hames minuti. Imma jien gustuz u tal-qalba.

M. Bezzina

Oct 31st 2011, 22:37

Sur Giovann jien staqsejtek mistoqsija u int ma wegibtx nerga nistaqsik

daw l affarijiet li semmejt int stess bhall'''' Jispiccaw il-waiting lists fil-qorti u fl-isptar u jispicca l-hacking''qed tiehu gost bijhom???

Semplici iwa jew le???irrid risposta min ghandek!!!

Itik is soluzzjoni min halla l waiting list takkumula matul iz zminijiet li flok ha hsieb biex l isptar ikollhu it tobbu dedikati ghall gvern it tobba qed ikunu iddedikati ghall privat!!!

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 18:59

Anke din it dbazwira tal kwistjoni tal Arriva se tipruvaw minghalikhom twahhlu fis sitwazzjoni ta barra ? !!!! it Tpeclieq huwa ta nies bhalek, li jippruvaw jghattu ix xemx b l-gharbiel ! Nafu l is- sitwazzjoni barra mhi xejn tajba, imma nafu wkoll li li istat li gibtu l-affarijiet intom hawn Malta, mhu jghin xejn is sitwazzjoni ta hawn Malta ! U barra min hekk il problimi min hu fil gvern suppost isolvijhom ghax ghalhek qieghed hemm,jigifieri l argument tieghek huwa ghal ahhar vojt u irrelevanti !

Noel Abela

Oct 30th 2011, 19:00

By any chance do you make use of the Arriva service or like the minister you have a Jauguar paid by us tax payers, to take you to places. And who paid for all this mess. TPECLIEQ MY FOOT

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 01:43

@Robert Galea

Mhux biex jiddevja mill-problemi vera u is-sitwazzjoni li hemm barra minn Maltra, IZDA LI HAWN HAWNHEKK, MELA INSEJTA L-QASSATA TA' L-EMAILS??????

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 17:36

jien ma jimpurtaniex x'ghamel Austin Gatt ( jew xi hadd iehor) ghal PN (jew ghal PL/MLP). Jien jimpurtani x'ghamel ghal Malta. Hlif tgerfiex m'ghamilx ghal Malta. Kull fejn ndahal hu dejjem b'xi storja.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 12:20

@ G Schembri

Daz zgur li dejjem b'xi storja! Stejjer li l-ebda membru paramentari ma kellu l-hila jidhol ghalihom u jsolvihom!! Ha naghamilha cara, jien mhux xi wiehed li nissimpatizza ma' Austin Gatt. Pero' ma tistax ma taqbilx ma l-affarijiet tajba li ghamel. L-anqas fi zmien il-Labout ma kien hemm deputat li kellu l-guts isolvi l-problema tat-Tarzna. Dak iz-zmien, ghat-tajjir, insulti u forza fizika kulhadd kien jinqala'. Imma sa hemm konna naslu. U l-pjaga tibqa' miftuha u jien inti u KULHADD jippompja. Nahseb kollha f'bieb il-belt qeghdin tat-tarzan jittalbu!! Mhux ghax nixtiqilhom hekk ta! Imma nahseb li anke huma llum jirrealizzaw li b'dan li hadu u s-salarju li qeghdin idahhlu kollha SINJURI ZAGHAR. U mela tigi tghid hlief tgerfix m'ghandniex. Veru qieghed/qeghdha tghix fil-qamar.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 10:26

@ Jo Borg

Although I believe and stress that Cabinet Ministers should be accountable for their actions, I am not going to applaud Franco Debono for his immaturity. Applauding Franco Debono not only on this subject but also in other childish behavioiur means that you are not fit to roam within the community but your place is in a room at MCH - Ward 8 - Maximum Security!

"People elected Debono as their representative in Parliament TO DEFEND THEIR INTERESTS," Oh!! very well said. It is a good excuse- defending the interests of the few and fu.***....all the rest! Why? because it is not true that by his behaviour he wants to defend the interest of those who elected him. Those who elected him are held at ransom as much as most other people are! "The interest of those who elected him" is only an excuse in order to achieve his goal. Politics did not begin when Dr Debono first contested the general elections!!!!!

A Dimech

Oct 30th 2011, 16:25

what about Jean Pierre Farrugia, and also waht about John Dalli - if he ever had to decide to contect again?!

are these included in your list?!

carmel muscat

Oct 30th 2011, 17:16

i totally agree with you

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 17:39

Austin Gatt does not run away from difficult situations he creates them. He does have guts - guts to take a 500euro weekly raise, a chauffer driven Jaquar and everything he does he flops.

pat muscat

Oct 30th 2011, 19:36

That.s the problem: he's got guts,( everybody has guts) but no professionalism!

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 19:17

M'ghandix hin x' nahli Robert biex noqod naqra ir riformi tal Buses,bizzejjed nahli hin qieghed kuljum gahx nuzahhom bil fors !

Ivan Mizzi

Oct 30th 2011, 17:18

Donnok int ma tridx tirkeb mill-Fgura biex tmur ghax xoghol..

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 17:41

Forsi int min fejn joqghod min ghamel ir-rotot tal-Arriva.

Giovann Demartino

Oct 30th 2011, 15:59

No! I mean Franco Debono...or else promote him to a minister........no more problems with Arriva, then!

joseph saliba

Oct 30th 2011, 14:11

I don't believe Dr Franco Debono is an egocentric macchiavellian politician. He is doing what he thinks is right for those who he represents even if you do not agree with him.

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 17:51

Gudja Marsaxlokk and Hal-Ghaxaq have a loyal candidate in Franco Debono, he is standing up for their rights since their transport service is worse than it was before. Zurrieq doesn't need him because it seems whoever made the routes knows Zurrieq very well and made a very good route, at the expense of Luqa residents. So most probably Zurrieq PN staunch supporters will not vote for Franco Debono - Only the fanatics will not vote for him.
As for Austin Gatt, the same class of voters who will not vote for Franco Debono will vote for him. Austin Gatt had done one blunder after another - What about handing a piece of land worth thousands to Go (by mistake he said) What about Smart City ( still a ghost town) and now we have Arriva sometimes I wonder on which side he is. Anyone who is not an arrogant whatever that young lady called him would have resigned after his first blunder.

Ken Spiteri

Oct 30th 2011, 18:39

A slight correction - John Dalli was BACKSTABBED....

George Azzopardi

Oct 30th 2011, 14:35

"a task where many a hercules before him failed"

Including Mr.Speaker or Dr.Frendo.

J. Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 14:05

He has too ...or else he won’t even be a candidate.

Victor Calleja

Oct 30th 2011, 17:23

Imma ghaliex fil PN ma hemmx demokrazijja. Ara il partit liehor kemm waqa malajr meta Mintoff ivvota kontra.
Jekk Franco Debono vera jrid jigbed il linja tal poplu ghandu jivvota kontra u mhux jastjeni.

J Galea

Oct 30th 2011, 17:54

@ v calleja: meta Mintoff ivvota kontra l-gvern laburista fl-1996 u waqa' l-gvern, dak kien vot marbut mal-budget u thallatx il-hass mal-kabocci. Hu pacenzja, jekk trid elezzjoni generali, jekk joghogbok stenna sa 2013.

Victor Calleja

Oct 30th 2011, 17:24

Kemm int demokratiku. Mhux ta bxejn nazzjonalist.

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 17:56

Yes do the PL a favour kick him out, voters who voted for Franco and not for other candidates who were already PNs did so instead of abstaining or voting for another party. Kick him out and PN will remain in government for the next 20 years you hope. Franco gave the PN another 5 years in government. Without him they will have a harder time staying in government.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 12:32

@ Victor Calleja

Sur Calleja tista' tghidilna xi tfisser demokrazija skond id-dizzjunarju tieghek?

Inti trid titkellem fuq id-demokrazija! Insjet li kull kandidat li jkun irid jikkontesta mal-PL irid jiddeposita somma flus, fi zmien kienet xi (Lm2000) issa ma nafx kemm biex jigi accettat halli dawk il-flus ikunu mazzra ma ghonqu u jkollu jimxi skont "id-demokrazija"!!! tal-partit? Jekk ma tafx, indaga u wara tkellem fuq id-demokrazija tal-partit please!!!

George Azzopardi

Oct 30th 2011, 14:33

parr idejn soddi

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 12:36

@ George Azzopardi

IZJED MILLI TAHSEB INT GEORGE!!!

m. borg

Oct 30th 2011, 13:16

Does any gonziPNer remember Dr Mario Felice, whose only sin was delivering a message from Dom Mintoff to Gadaffi, way back in the 70s?

George Azzopardi

Oct 30th 2011, 14:20

case in point .. I remember Dr.Felice!

Charles J. Buttigieg

Oct 30th 2011, 18:15

M Borg You have it all wrong. Mario Felice was the gofer between the US administration and Mintoff not between Gaddafi and Mintoff.

Giovann Demartino

Oct 30th 2011, 16:42

U jekk jitwarrab Austin Gatt jitranga t-trasport publiku?

stephen koludrovic

Oct 30th 2011, 12:24

Didn't that Orlando guy also use brinkmanship for his divorce issue?

Its one of the problems of having a one seat majority in an inflated parliament of 69 MPS.

Ken Spiteri

Oct 30th 2011, 18:35

Finally some sense

m. borg

Oct 30th 2011, 13:19

Even Gadaffi and Sadam "......had the stamina to move ahead .........."
.
See where it got them on the dung heap of history.



Tony Agius

Oct 30th 2011, 13:42

I AGREE 100% , and that is why the hypocrites attack him so much , not because they love Malta and the Maltese people , but because they can not accept to look around and see all that He accomplished in the right direction . Some are full of jealousy and hatred for Austin ( the Minister ) just because he realy delivered , not always with the best result , but good enough to pass the pole . No we must not cut off a tree that give fruit , but trim if necessary .

George Azzopardi

Oct 30th 2011, 14:32

@Tony Agius

totally disagree with you .. He had done some good stuff when he was IT Minister but now a days, I hear many PN supporters agreeing that Mr.Gatt's time is up and he's now doing more harm then good both to his party and Malta in general. Why even he stated that he will not continue! He, however, wanted to end with triumph when he introduced Arriva, thinking that this would be his biggest success but in fact ended with the biggest farse we know today!!

Ken Spiteri

Oct 30th 2011, 18:31

well said.

Robert Galea

Oct 30th 2011, 16:12

Fl-oppozzijoni sakemm titghallem ma tiddiskriminax u tirrispettana lilna in-nazzjonalisti ghalhekk waqajt fil-1998 u ghadhekk l-istess.

Philip Hili

Oct 31st 2011, 12:58

@ Ken Spiteri

Ken, ma twilidniex il-bierah ta!! Tinsulentax l-intelligenza tal-qarreja b'kitbietek. Hallina xbin!!!

FRANS H SAID

Oct 30th 2011, 10:40

So according to you we are linimng in a dictatorship. What is the difference between Hitler, Mussolini,Gaddafi, Sadam Hussein, Franco, Mubarrak, Idi Amin? They all imposed their ideas. The party is never bigger than the people. If you and those like you feel so confident, call an election now. With all the triming before the next election the people are now fed up of arrogance. Die hard nationalists are promising to vote labour. Millions upon millions when fenech cannot even find a 100 million to balance. Start counting 400 million of the Piano fiasco, 4 million of the Tritons fountain, 55 for a bus service that doen provide a service, and the list goes on.

Are you sure that you are proud to support intransigence? If the PN realy honours the people it shoud re-install the previous terminus otherwise all Malta (except a few blinded) will condemn the PN for oblivion.

But is seems that is what certain so called nationalists want so that they coul get rid of Gonzi and put humpty dumpty in the lead. I dare ask the question - Is there a so called secret society working behind the scenes?

Ken Spiteri

Oct 30th 2011, 10:46

Dear profs - sorry but I cannot agree - god forbid if we end up with a remote control MP's - one cannot wait 5 years - and why in this little island of ours always the electorate has to decide on others faults, no one has to assume hi responsibility be accountable and do the right thing.

We need to thank god if we have MP's like Hon Debono.

A Dimech

Oct 30th 2011, 11:19

@Albert Gandao -

I never liked your way of thinking and today it reached the Apex. one question then:-

"If the government is to punished for the bus fiasco then it is up to the electorate to rightly do so at the next general election. A government assistant and MP is expected to show loyalty to his party which elected him or alternatively resign if for whatever reason he is feeling uncomfortable within the party . "

Why do we have a voting system in parliament? the whole political and democratic process depends on voting in parliament ?!!! I am not sure what you are going on about!!

and where were you when Mintoff voted Sant's government down?!! it was a parliamentary vote...

Hallina Ganado!

Alfred Vassallo

Oct 30th 2011, 11:11

Quote

''Why did Mr Gatt refused the resignation request of Mr Delia'', simple otherwise he too would have to do it!!!!
You see, one can ask anything from a pn BUT never resignation...Ma tarax....ara Alla biss ikun jaf x'ghamel biex jitla hemm u imbad x'hadd jejdlu biex jirezenja!!!!!!!! u ma tarax.....Umbad....????

R. Cilia

Oct 30th 2011, 10:05

Imbad veru nigu bhal Libja taht Gaddafi Sur Galea!

Francois Pace

Oct 30th 2011, 10:11

Sur Galea,

Nahseb mintiex tghix Malta , filkass mhur fittex tabib ta!!!

FRANS H SAID

Oct 30th 2011, 10:13

I have pity on people like you that for sheer bias in favour of your party you are ignoring the hardship being suffered by nearly all the Maltese.

In history it will be recorded that the Piano project was the classical Trojan Horse. Time will show the underhand moves to obtain a good part of the 400 million being wasted on a city with a hole!

Franklyn Brincat

Oct 30th 2011, 10:29

Thanks for the info, though I'm sure that most of us are interested in the service and nothing else, and that up till now is not up 2 standard.

James Camilleri

Oct 30th 2011, 13:40

@Robert Galea

"Il-konsumatur qieghed jiehu servizz ahjar. (Minn jghid il-kontra huwa giddieb)" Skuzani ta imma nahseb li qed tghid jghodd hafna ghalik. Min vera qed juza s-servizz biss jista' jghid li kemm huwa ahjar (jew ahjar nghidu aghar). Fost dawk li qed jghidu li s-servizz mar ahjar hemm apologisti ghall-gvern, nies li qeghdin jghixu f'delusjoni totali u ohrajn li kif jifthu halqhom imnehirhom jikber aktar minn ta' Pinokkjo. Taht liema kategorija taqa' Mr Galea? Forsi t-tlieta li huma.

Robert Galea

Oct 30th 2011, 15:59

Labour is paying for his past. Maqtuh mir-realta minn ilu dawn is-snin kollha fl-oppozzizjoni. Il-Labour jivvota labour no matter what . u mhux in-nazzjonalisti. Tinsiex li jien nirkibha l-arriva kulljum u nahseb wiehed mill-ftit mill qieghed nara li diga ghamilt is-aver card.

Minn jrid jkun jaf fuq ir-Riforma jfiteex Public Transport Reform in Malta bus and Taxi. Hawn minn ma jikber qatt. Tell Franco Debono that we will not abstain in the next election. U ma ahniex ser nahsbuha.

E. Vassallo

Oct 30th 2011, 10:25

Spot on. Every one is realising that Franco Debono is an attention seeker. The more people I speak to, the more I realise what a barmy fellow this Franco Debono is.

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 08:51

LOL ! ha ha would not be surprised a couple of months before the next election such scheme would come into force !

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 08:42

Such people are called people's representatives, you want to turn him in a puppazz. People like him might save the PN, since in the last election PN supporters who would otherwise have voted MLP voted for him, thus voting MPs who were not acting in the interest of their costituents out of parliament and leaving PN in power. If PN does not take heed of people like Franco Debono, these same voters might decide to vote PN out come next election.

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 08:33

What a true democrat you are! The country cannot be held hostage by the likes of Franco Debono, but it can be kept hostage by the likes of Austin Gatt, who very arrogantly expects the whole island to arrive late for work or leave home three hours before work starts, or walk for half an hour to get a bus, while he gets in his chauffeur driven Jacquar and arrives at his destination in time and very comfortably. It is not the country who is being held hostage, but the regime of the FEW PN members who have hijacked not only the PN but the country. The sooner we get rid of this Regime the better both for the PN and for the whole country.

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 08:55

Wow, your writings are a true lesson and model of democracy! Yes, yes, why not threaten him at gunpoint perhaps?

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 08:31

At least this village Doctor is not afraid to show his complete name and surname ! Mr J. SCHEMBRI.

Joseph Farrugia

Oct 30th 2011, 09:40

Don't worry Mr Farrugia, we voters from the 5th district already know, that come next election, Dr Debono will not have our vote like last time. Attention seeker is all that he is.

G Schembri

Oct 30th 2011, 08:37

Yes let us unite Next Friday at 6 pm in Valletta.

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 08:23

Gonzi mhux qed imexxi il pajjiz !! imma erba min tal klikka qedin !!!

mark borg

Oct 30th 2011, 08:28

1 Simple answer : Of course not . However your argument is irrelevant,as the minister needs to be sacked for causing a big burden on the society,he was trusted and voted by the people, however failed big time and is causing hardship on many people,so yes he needs to get out . One question ,what would happen to your job if you manange to ruin the company you work for ? Let alone someone creates a nation wide disaster like tkis fiasco !

joseph saliba

Oct 30th 2011, 14:16

Agostino Pio Gatt. How I like that name. Sounds great.

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