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15-year-old found driving car, with shotguns inside

Two traffic policemen who stopped a driver for using his mobile phone while driving, bagged more than they expected this morning.

The driver was found to be just 15 years old. Apart from using his phone while driving, he was also not wearing a seatbelt and two shotguns were found in the car.

The boy was accompanied by an 18-year-old man in the passenger seat.

The arrest was made in Abate Street, Zabbar at about 10.30 a.m.

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Ms.D. Galea

Oct 28th 2011, 12:17

Plus a guest appearance as local hero in some prime time local junk- tv show.

Steve Zammit

Oct 27th 2011, 19:53

The boy was probably out hunting

Peter Shaw

Oct 27th 2011, 15:56

The 18 year old was riding shotgun for sure :))

G G Debono

Oct 28th 2011, 00:21

RE "I would not like to have Malta become a Police state "

Eh ? Enforcing the law (which is not being done any more in this fair land - apart from lucrative parking fines, that is.....) does not make us a police state.

Francesca Sammut

Oct 27th 2011, 09:45

well said :)

Mr B. Fenech

Oct 26th 2011, 22:09

everyone has a mobile phone...this is 21st century you know..even 10 year olds have them.

Tonio Bone

Oct 26th 2011, 23:00

Seriously? Are you amazed he has a mobile at 15 years of age?

Noel Mifsud

Oct 26th 2011, 23:30

and already 2 shotguns.

James Fenech

Oct 27th 2011, 06:46

LOL, of all things we read it is strange that you are surprised he has a mobile

Mr Stephen Farrugia

Oct 27th 2011, 09:18

It was sarcasm guys, learn to read between the lines ;)

Clive Gerada

Oct 27th 2011, 15:05

good one lol

Ruby Farrug

Oct 27th 2011, 20:37

was the car registered?....If not i will pay the car tax for the kiddo to get hold of this trophy:
Chauffeur-driven ride by an unlicensed driver,
an elderly bodyguard and
two shot guns.
Next stop Malta Gold Vault.
Get-away to Seychelles...all in 3D experience man tal-Genn

Zagroma Savrene

Oct 26th 2011, 18:39

You can't carry 2 weapons of the same type though, this guy clearly hacked the real world game to carry 2 shotguns.

Peter Murray

Oct 26th 2011, 19:09

Nice one mate

J.C. Borg

Oct 26th 2011, 17:33

Mr Muscat - il-pulizija ma jistghux ikunu kullimkien. Jekk inti ghandek mobile kull ma ghandek taghmel hu li tigbed l-attenzjoni tal-puliozija fuq min ikun qed jikser il-ligi. Mhux minfuq tghajjarhom.

M. Bartolo

Oct 26th 2011, 18:29

J.C. Borg

Kieku ncempel il-pulizija ghal kuldarba li nara lil xi hadd isuq bil-mobile, jiekol jew jixrob, kieku jkolli bzonn linja diretta mal-pulizija.

Vera ma jistghux ikunu kullimkien, imma l-pulizija qishom ma jkunu mkien!!!

Dennis Agius

Oct 26th 2011, 18:50

Carmel Muscat
sib xi habib tieghek fil parlament u jaghmel mistoqsija parlamentari, u tara kemm ikun hemm nies l' ittellaw il Qorti fuq sewqan waqt li kienu qed juzaw il mobile?
Pero staqsi ukoll kemm wehlu mill qorti?
Staqsi ukoll kemm hi l-multa?
Wara Tkellem.

Mrs C. Weitze

Oct 26th 2011, 19:55

Though I generally agree with you, I wonder whether You would like to foster a case like this in your own house?!?
We all know of cases, where - for whatever reason or not - the children are not attending school. I can easily recall three cases in my vicinity and thanks, but no thanks, I wouldn't want to foster these particular cases in my home.
Children of that age need a different approach. In other countries there are specially trained social workers, who look after and live together with such cases in a kind of assisted accommodation, in order to control and guide them.

J.C. Borg

Oct 26th 2011, 17:35

Mr Farrugia - have you just landed from the moon?????

Hugh Jampton

Oct 26th 2011, 17:58

the point is what the hell was a fifteen year old doing with two SHOTGUNS!!!! hopefully they were licenced or if not their serial numbers can be traced to previous owners.. maybe even the person who owns the vehicle...this could prove interesting - maybe now the state will tighten up on shotgun ownership and how they are stored and kept. i e In a metal cabinet securely bolted to the wall and kept locked and ammunition kept secure away from the weapon....Ive read some stories in my time but this is Classic..

Daniel Dimech

Oct 27th 2011, 06:50

gran turismo.... the real driving simulator !!!!! lol imbaghad mar jipprova fit triq.

Matthew Dimech

Oct 26th 2011, 15:30

skuzi ta kif wehlu il-genituri ma rasek??! ... ara vera ma nparlaw minajr ma nkunu nafu is sitwazzjoni!! ... forsi kien minalijom li qjied l-iskola it-tifel!

Mr C Busuttil

Oct 26th 2011, 15:37

@Matthew Dimech

Wisq probabli din ma kientx l-ewwel u IVA l-genituri huma responsabli u biex ma tindunax li hadlek il-karozza trid vera tkun tghix fil-qamar

R Axisa

Oct 26th 2011, 16:24

@Matthew Dimech - Kien minghalihom li t-tifel qijed l-iskola??? Taf li l-lum fl-iskejjel tezisti sistema fejn l-ewwel haga li ssir filghodu hija r-rassenja u l-computer jibghat sms awtomatikament lill-genituri ta' dawk it-tfal li jkunu immarkati assenti???? Aktar tezisti l-possibilita' li l-genituri jhallu t-tfal ma jmorrux skola 3 darbiet fix-xahar, qishom ghandhom 3 ijiem leave!!!!! Imbaghad irridu neghlbu l-problema tal-assenteizmu fl-iskejjel, meta ssib genituri li lanqas jikkoperaw, anzi jaghtu l-arja lit-tfal! Nahseb aktar inti tkellimt minghajr ma taf l-affarijiet kif inhuma fl-iskejjel!

Iva nahseb li l-genituri ghandhom jerfghu r-responsabbilta' ta' diversi fatturi fosthom, li mhux qieghed l-iskola meta ghad ghandu 15-il sena, li qieghed isuq karozza meta ghadu taht l-eta. Il-passiggier li kien mieghu fil-karozza wkoll ghandu jinzamm responsabbli li hallih isuq taht l-eta, bla seat belt, bil-mobile u aktar minn hekk li kien hemm l-armi fil-karozza!

Issa naraw x'sentenza se taghti l-qorti!

Martina Visanich

Oct 26th 2011, 20:22

???

Noel Mifsud

Oct 26th 2011, 23:34

Ma tafx li illum mhux kif trabbi jghodd man imma kif ikunu l hbieb. Kemm titkellmu bla sens.

Chris Abela

Oct 26th 2011, 15:18

agree 100 %

John J Borg

Oct 26th 2011, 15:18

meta kollox skond il ligi.........ghaliex le.

S Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 15:33

Mija fil-Mija jekk minghalik ser tiehu l-okkazzjoni biex tattaka l-kaccaturi!

Steve Zammit

Oct 26th 2011, 23:47

John J Borg ghandek tkun taf li f'dan il-kaz kien qed jinkisser il-ligi ghax tifel ta' hmistax il-sena ma jistax imur ghall-kacca u jzomm arma f'idejh

s vela, mhux okkazjoni biex nattaka il-kaccaturi, imma ghandek tkun taf li dan mhux kaz izolu, u mhux l-ewwel darba li tisma b'zaghzagh bhal dan li diga immorru ghall-kacca u jisparaw...xi darba ghad irrid iwegga xi hadd imbaghad oqodu ibku wara...qumu min hemm u hudu hsieb li kulhadd ed jobdi l-ligi

S Vella

Oct 27th 2011, 13:21

@Steve Zammit
Jien nistiednek tghin lil pulizzija la taf li dan mhux kaz izolat. Dan ifisser li inti taf b'minorenni li qed juzaw armi minghajr licenzja tal-pulizzija u jekk ma tirrapurtax...allura inti qieghed tonqos ukoll!! il-bqija jekk qieghed tassumi minti taghmel xejn hlief titfa it-tajn.

Chris Abela

Oct 26th 2011, 15:19

M'ghandu xejn x'jaqsam...!!

Matthew Grima

Oct 26th 2011, 15:31

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

John J Borg

Oct 26th 2011, 15:23

tiskantax wisq jekk johrog bxejn....il karozza hada lill missieru li minghajr ma kien jaf kien ghad hemm is snieter fiha, ghadu minoreni..kondotta nadifa ......jtuh cans iehor (hu hekk ghandu jkun)........kellu bzonn jiehu tghalima ghax setghet gietu ghar....

Mr C Galea

Oct 26th 2011, 15:18

totally agree and then the judge after the right decision should put in an application for a wage rise.

Joe Cordina

Oct 26th 2011, 15:32

and... the owner is also accountable

Peter Bonello

Oct 26th 2011, 16:24

lets hope we dont have a ridiculous sentence of a 100eur fine and 6month suspended sentence because the police "did not charge him for any of the these contraventions!!!"

R. Mazzitelli

Oct 26th 2011, 15:36

sry...how do you ASSume that this boy is indeed the son of a single parent on benefits??? what does single parent on benefits has to do with a 15 year old driving with 2 shotguns in his car??

Charles Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 21:37

Go into our schools are you will know the backgrounds of those who are raised by proper parents and those who are not... Unfortunately 60% of children in ONE single class room come from such broken families...

In one word it's a total mess, and moreover these are going to be the 'men' and 'women' of tomorrow... With such people in society crime will be so high... and God help us when we turn 60 in 30 years time!

Mr Marcel Dingli

Oct 26th 2011, 14:34

In fact by law parents ARE responsible for children under age.

VV Bartolo

Oct 26th 2011, 14:41

i've also commented about young drivers a couple of weeks ago ... suggesting to put up the age to 25yrs ... but obv some young "mature" ones laughed at me!

John Micallef

Oct 26th 2011, 14:59

Quote: "The law should be amended to have the parents responsible for all children under age".

But they are. The parents are accountable for their children's acts. Just like the owners of animals are responsible for anything they do. It's just that sometimes, the legislation appears to be too lenient.

But that's not just Malta, mind you. Listen to the TG1 and TG2 news when there's a road tragedy (drunk driver hits biker, etc) and over and over again you will hear that these are relapsers. Just a few weeks ago a businessman immigrant resident in Italy ran over and killed 2 people. Guess what? He was drunk and it was not his first time!!! As you can imagine, with some horror, he was out on bail before the ink on the report had dried.

The legislation and its enforcers is there for the criminals, perpetrators and lawbreakers, definately not there to safeguard the honest citizens like you and me.

Joseph Borg

Oct 26th 2011, 15:18

It is very unfair to attribute the findings with FKNK. I am not a hunter myself and don't even own a shotgun but how come you came to the conclusion that they were hunters? cause I ve read the article many times but nowhere could I find any thing related to hunting. could it be that they were going for clay shooting or maybe even worst planning some robbery? and if they were hunters, why are you associating them with FKNK? I am more than sure that NO MEMBER of the FKNK committee would ever approve a 15yr witha shotgun...they will just be crazy if they do so!

Peter Agius

Oct 26th 2011, 14:58

But he is a hunter. If we stop him he may commit suicide.

Joseph Fenech

Oct 26th 2011, 15:18

I totally disapprove the kid's actions but honestly.... do you assume the kid has parents??? huh? I guess life's smiling right at you!

Peter Agius

Oct 26th 2011, 14:59

Of course thats what he will get. He is only 15 after all. Imagine his ardour when he is 25.

George Calleja

Oct 26th 2011, 15:29

Let's hope that this young rascal will get the punishment he deserves. Let's hope too that after that, there won't be another judge who will reduce the punishment 'from ten years to six months!! as it happened lately.

John Micallef

Oct 26th 2011, 14:53

In Zabbar it's 247/7, 365/year....

Mr Conrad Fenech

Oct 26th 2011, 14:14

Or imitating a movie? Or a story they read in a book? Or what they saw on the news?

Phil Cope

Oct 26th 2011, 13:46

Priceless!! :))

Ned Kelly

Oct 26th 2011, 14:04

It seems like I'm playing that every time I visit!

Giovann Demartino

Oct 26th 2011, 13:47

U ikkoopera mal-pulizija!

Ryan Farrugia

Oct 26th 2011, 13:50

Unfortunately you are right!

R. Gauci

Oct 26th 2011, 14:23

U mur Jonathan! Ghad ghandu 15 -il sena, 50 ewro multa hafna, daqqa zghira fuq idejh u barra bid-daqq.

Peter Agius

Oct 26th 2011, 15:02

Missu le, ukoll.

debbie Voss

Oct 26th 2011, 14:13

I agree and to those wanting more survellance I suggest they think twice before using a 15 yr old's missdemenour to turn malta into a police state with nightly check points..

Stuart McNeil

Oct 26th 2011, 14:39

Well said sir--totally agree.

Peter Agius

Oct 26th 2011, 15:05

Then the Law Courts with their sentences negate all the work done by the Police.

John Micallef

Oct 26th 2011, 15:00

...and throw away the key before he commits more crimes!!!

adrian agius

Oct 26th 2011, 13:46

plus he's supposed to be at school !!!!!

Andre Delicata

Oct 26th 2011, 14:48

This is Malta, so instead, Peppi Azzopardi will use him as the central victim in his TV show, making excuses for his inexcusable actions such as blaming the fact that there isn't enough monitoring at school and that the poor child is probably acting out because his family/friends/teachers/girlfriend did something to irk him and suggest he get psychological help and a tiny slap on the wrist, rather than having his right to a driving license revoked for a good decade or more, and a hefty fine for his parents as well as community work. If it were up to me, I'd waive the anonymity rule and name and shame these prats who are nothing more than stroppy, entitled over-grown babies (just like most of our politicians and those who believe they can keep fooling us about how they're running this country).

Mr Marcel Dingli

Oct 26th 2011, 14:26

I dont agree with you Mr Brincat that wardens should so the same. Wardens are employees of private companies, hence not really public officers. We have enough abuse in their mode of action and i doubt whether they have the basic essentails to do a proper job. Any wardens worth their while should join the police force, otherwise they are just normal citizens except for the facts that you mentioned. Police and other public officers have irreplaceable roles. What i would introduce would be legislation to legalise temporary citizens` arrest followed by police intervention. Then, yes ,wardens` actions would be in a legal framework. Please be reminded that not even customs officers or the armed forces have the power bestowed on the Police force. Hence it is every citizen`s duty to co operate with this force and it is its duty to see that it remains free of bad apples.

JOSEPH VELLA

Oct 26th 2011, 14:21

Boasting what a born "RAMBO" they have, I aasume. In my opinion they too should be investigated

John Micallef

Oct 26th 2011, 15:03

They were probably watchin over the bird traps...

FRANS H SAID

Oct 26th 2011, 14:06

You still have not explianed whit is this "common sense" From wher can we obtain it. Isit available cheap from LIDL or on sale, or perhaps can it be bought on the internet?

JOSEPH VELLA

Oct 26th 2011, 14:23

WOW !! A really good one. Congratulations

Chris Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 21:47

amazing

michael sammut

Oct 26th 2011, 14:09

you can contact ROCKSTAR GAMES, they might we interested to create the 5th GTA :P
awesome comment though Imer

Charles Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 14:16

If you say Only in Malta it's clear you have no idea of what the rest of the world is all about mate, and that's very worrying about your self, so make sure to check your self out and get some knowledge into your brain cells mate!

Steve M. Engerer

Oct 26th 2011, 14:32

ARE YOU SURE ONLY IN MALTA!!!

John Micallef

Oct 26th 2011, 15:04

Iva, hekk hu. Nahseb kellhom harga biex itejbu l-edukazzjoni tal-geografija u n-natura.

Chris Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 21:53

Yes and carrying cartridges instead of books

Lawrence Attard

Oct 26th 2011, 14:09

With 5 offences already I don't think we need to imagine any more. And if he was going hunting, given his obvious disregard of any kind of civil law, we can only imagie how much he would be observing all the bird hhunting laws.

Elaine Compagno

Oct 26th 2011, 14:24

What does it say about the parents? Where did this kid learn to drive? Who's car is it? Why is he in possession of a car and two shot guns? And why on earth is he not in school?

These parents are huge failures. Some parents think that their job is to look after their young by providing anything they want for them and keeping them happy. They forget to give them responsibilities, to show them the consequences of their bad choices and follow through with the proper punishment.

It's so much easier to nag and complain, throw your hands up in the air and say, 'heqq.. ghamel li trid mela hux, la ma tridx tisma!'

Charles Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 14:17

Spot on! Bring on those road blocks! Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to worry about!!

S Vella

Oct 26th 2011, 13:04

Most probably he had some medical certiicate issued by some very responsable doctor....

Patrick Camilleri

Oct 26th 2011, 13:27

Don't put parents in that position. Simply assume he took the car without permission,ie: he stole it and process him accordingly.

Laurence grech

Oct 26th 2011, 13:17

i am young.. yet i drive a 2005 bmw.. your point makes no sense.

B Attard

Oct 26th 2011, 14:15

@MC Attard

if the young guys have a driving licence and insurance and have guts and money let them buy expensive cars. Better then spend them on drugs, lawyers and courts.

MC Attard

Oct 26th 2011, 14:18

i was not referring to people with a driving licence!, in malta there are no regulations stating the type of car you can drive when you get your licence but there are regulations that you can't drive a car without driving licence.

David Spiteri

Oct 26th 2011, 13:30

naqbel mieghek mija fil mija!

Kurt Mifsud

Oct 26th 2011, 13:30

Police cannot do spot checks unless they have evidence that you're carrying something illegal. In fact spot checks are done to fine drivers for something stupid like a cut off light bulb... just to suck money out innocents' pockets

John Micallef

Oct 26th 2011, 15:05

Society is already at the point of no return, sadly.

Kurt Mifsud

Oct 26th 2011, 12:42

Incredible... the story or the stupidity of this kid? :))

At least he could have not answered the mobile phone to attract less attention!

francois esteva'

Oct 26th 2011, 12:51

Using a moble phone whilst the driver is operating the vehicle is 175€ fine in Most northern countries plus the possibility of losing a driving licence, and whilst carring weapons thats a jail sentence at the judge's discretion. That is something that just do not exist in Malta, still has alot to learn from us more advanced europeans

debbie Voss

Oct 26th 2011, 13:27

TO ADVANCED EUROPEAN FRANCIOS:
YOU advanced europeans have much more to worry about than 15 yr old drivers. Like brutal murders, pedophile rings, cases of family rape(read Austria, Poland etc) , a history of colonial plundaring (read Spanish, portughese, french english colonial rapes all over the globe) . Sort that out francios...

Kurt Mifsud

Oct 26th 2011, 13:28

Mr Esteva - both are applicable in Malta as well. As a matter of fact the fine is even much bigger for using the mobile phone whilst driving

bryan sullivan

Oct 26th 2011, 13:47

@ francois estiva..... your comment was appropriate but it is a pity that you spoilt it at the end with your last gratuitous remark . what rubbish from a supposedly more advanced European.

bryan sullivan

Oct 26th 2011, 14:00

'@ mr francois esteva... just back from France yesterday.... visited the Louvre...... suggest they rename that building .... Biggest warehouse in the world full of stolen property !

Mario allison

Oct 26th 2011, 15:02

debbie nearly all the things you mentioned are in malta too

Mr Tony Gatt

Oct 26th 2011, 15:43

@ Debbie Voss,

No family rape or paedophilia etc. occurrs in Malta, of course. Wakey wakey!

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