E-mails were hacked, Joseph Muscat insists
Sabrina Agius
Labour leader Joseph Muscat insisted this morning that e-mails between him and RTK journalist Sabrina Agius had been hacked and not leaked.
Replying to journalists' questions during a visit to Benna, Dr Muscat insisted the e-mails were hacked and said this was ultimately theft.
Ms Agius was suspended yesterday after the contents of e-mails she exchanged with Labour leader Joseph Muscat were published.
This happened the day after Dr Muscat claimed in Parliament that correspondence via e-mail between him and Ms Agius had been hacked. He demanded an investigation by Speaker, Michael Frendo, protesting an "erosion of democracy".
The Labour leader said he will allow the Speaker to decide on the matter and he would give his views if asked to do so by Dr Frendo.
Asked whether he thought it was correct for a politician to send such e-mails and demand tip-offs, he said he surely did not plant Ms Agius at RTK and neither did he try to plant her at PBS or at The Times, as the companies themselves could confirm.
Asked whether his behaviour had been ethical, Dr Muscat said that what was definitely unethical was stealing e-mails.
He also said he could not understand why Mita seemed to be so nervous about the issue when he never implied that it had been involved.
Popular Stories
Update 3: Woman found dead in car,...
Updated: Woman dies in car crash
Carm Mifsud Bonnici resigns after...
Part of Dwejra 'Azure window' collapses
The end of the bar that ‘never closed’
Bundy does not know whether to...
Updated - Jason Micallef demands...
This WAS the night - Kurt makes it...
'No need for early election if PM's...
In Discussion
Updated - Jason Micallef demands...
Gozo tunnel could take 5-7 years to...
CABS remote controlled aircraft shot...
Carm Mifsud Bonnici resigns after...
Joseph Calleja condemns portrayal of...
Second group of migrants arrives
Updated: Labour would give...
CABS drone shot down
Adrian Vassallo in scathing...
165 Comments
Post comment
Please sign in or create your Account to post comments.
neville pace
Oct 22nd 2011, 17:22
Asked whether he thought it was correct for a politician to send such e-mails and demand tip-offs, he said he surely did not plant Ms Agius at RTK and neither did he try to plant her at PBS or at The Times, as the companies themselves could confirm.
Well it seems he did not plant her, but he certainly wtaered the plant....and she surely fed him sensitve information for political gain....he missed out on saying that....
kevin farrugia
Oct 22nd 2011, 15:40
so i m getting a bit confused here!! so joseph is disappointed because someone spied on him and because this person revealed that he was on a plot on spying on others!!!!!!!!
Robert Callus
Oct 22nd 2011, 14:11
Were they hacked? Were they not? Does it justify anything?
http://robertcallus.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/the-hacker-and-the-mole/
neville pace
Oct 22nd 2011, 13:43
The truth is that the prime minister is know to answer thousands of mails....not in that manner and not for that scope......how childish and unprofessional of joseph muscat. The exchange is more of what one does in a chat room than that of answering mails officially
j brincat
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:20
@m. borg
"What a clever idea how about telling us how he should go about it Einstien?"
What 'idea' are you talking about? It was a fact. But then you so brilliant and in the know how that you can't even distinguish between the two!
(jb)
neville pace
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:16
What is good for the goose is good for the gander
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Dis2H2osQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/19/lord-chief-justice-press-regulation
Lord chief justice's speech on press regulation –
Lord Justice Judge's keynote at Human Rights Law Conference in London
On the same day of the joeyleaks
"........... the revelation of a public scandal - must be allowed to continue to happen. My own view is that the public value of the second is priceless. Whatever means of regulation are designed to reduce the occasions of unacceptable behaviour by elements of the press they must not simultaneously, even if accidentally, diminish or dilute the ability and power of the press to reveal and highlight true public scandals or misconduct...."
"Weekly news paper IT-TORCA has revealed internal emails sent by anti-divorce movement who are planning to use children of separated couples to speak out against divorce, says priest Joe Borg in his communication to other members."
Maltastar 11 april 2011
Saturday, October 22, 2011 , by Matthew Xuereb
Magistrates court accepts plea to hear Cyrus Engerer case behind closed doors
Judge Manché upheld the right of The Times to report on the charges filed, stating that in a democratic society freedom of information came before any attempts to keep court proceedings secret, particularly when they involved a public figure.
j brincat
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:02
@Mark Galea
Quote:""Hu x'inhu l-kaz, dan ser ikun il-PM gdid ta' Malta????"
At least we can hope that he will deliver what he promises unlike GonziPN did in this legislature! They were simply empty promises made to win the election. Now the people know what their vote got them!
(jb)
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 22nd 2011, 09:52
The accusation of hacking is being tackled at the proper level as desired by Joseph Muscat.
Let us now, please, move on to the problem of great concern to the electorate. Do Joseph Muscat and Sabrina Agius contest the CONTENTS of the e-mails now in the public domain? If not, is that the ethical level of behaviour that the LP is offering in any future LP cabinet? Is that acceptable to the electorate in Malta?
Henry Mifsud
Oct 22nd 2011, 09:36
It is truly ludicrous in this country of ours to follow how political spin takes over to camouflage a very serious situation. Funnier still is the fact that Net News are using "stolen" information and blatantly broadcasting it on their News. Yes, to all apologists who keep on reminding us what happened 30 years ago, this is happening today when the PN boasts of how much Malta progressed under its direction. They are breaking the law in public and they want to make us believe that this is in the public interest. Where are the EU watchdogs on the individual's right for data protection? We are threading on very thin ice and should such a situation continue, people will start losing their faith in even Social Media believing that they cannot freely express themselves, whether publicly or otherwise. They will also lose the little faith they still have in our legal system.
Quo Vadis Malta?
pat muscat
Oct 22nd 2011, 08:20
Its a brave new world! Your g mail get hacked or stolen by someone else, and the thief becomes a hero. It's in the public interest .! Of course anything that the Prime Minster or the Leader of the Opposition write is for that matter, in the Public Interest, so if their private emails get hacked or stolen its in the public interest and we can throw the Data Protection Act-assiduously defended by the Court as a human right- in the dustbin of history! Only in Malta! Murdoch should have based his hacking base in Malta and he would have gone Scot- free!
Victor Laiviera
Oct 22nd 2011, 07:22
There should be a public inquiry to determine the persons responsible for the hacking. And it should be a Magisterial inquiry where people are obliged to testify under oath.
Anybody who "loses his or her memory", as happened in the BWSC Scandal, should be locked up until he or she regains it.
It's about time we started to take the rule of law seriously in this country.
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:54
Keep bandying the word "hacking " and "scandal "on all the internet fora in the hope that it sticks.Eh?
NEW Labour tactics, no doubt.
George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 14:50
@Ms.D. Galea
Simple truth .. I guess it hurts when it is the truth
Trevor Brincat
Oct 22nd 2011, 00:45
Hacking a gmail account ow please. I remind every one this isn't SONY's case where they got targeted by skilled hacker group .This is a gmail account which is owned by google hacking suck an account wouldn't be an easy job for any ethical hacker. All they had to do is pull the info browsing info from the employers machine hardly a hacking .
I think some people are so out of alternatives to whom they should vote that they are all in a state of denial and revoking the simple truth.
What a sorry state of democracy we have in Malta. Nobody has the balls to do things the right way.Kulhadd irid jahxi kollox.
Peter Agius
Oct 21st 2011, 21:38
Whether hacked or not........Joseph Muscat .......and Sabrina Agius....are in a hell of a mess. And I am sure that its only professional.
Alfred Cassar
Oct 21st 2011, 21:22
Aghmilni ministru Joseph, aghmilni ministru please.
Shame on you Sabrina and shame on you Joseph, .... you should do what is right in this situation, RESIGN
Silvan Cutajar
Oct 21st 2011, 21:44
Intix xi wiehed li trid lil Austin Gatt ma jirrezenjax! Hallina!
Pauline Busuttil
Oct 21st 2011, 20:57
Inkixxef Joseph Muscat u issa iktar qed nifhemu li qed jahmi minn taht biex jerbah l'elezzjoni.
Missu jirrezenja min Kap tal PL u jmur jistahba..........
Steve Borg - Marsascala
Oct 22nd 2011, 00:54
Inti bis-serjeta jew xi cajta din? Illuminana ftit ghaliex ghandkom partit li fl-ahha r legislatura dejjem jiggieldu bejniethom fil-Parlament. Taf sewwa li fl-istorja tal-PN qatt ma kien hemm firda daqs illum bejn id-deputati. Sa' llum stess Austin Gatt qal "Jiena ma naghmilx bhal haddiehor u nghid x'jintqal [fil-laqghat]".
Peress li lil Joseph Muscat inti ghidtlu biex imur jistahba [wara li serqa l-emails privati tieghu] u se jkun hemm intom fil-Gvern - kif se jithallsu l-4,300 MILJUN EWRO DEJN li ghamiltu kemm ilkom tmexxu? Spjegalna sew u kull fejn se nara ismek se nistaqsik, ghaliex id-dejn qieghed fuq ras il-Maltin. Tista tispjegalna l-programm taghkom li bih se jinfeda d-dejn? Flus hemm
Mark Galea
Oct 21st 2011, 20:30
Hu x'inhu l-kaz, dan ser ikun il-PM gdid ta' Malta????
Kif halla li jigrilu hekk??? Dan loghob tat-tfal.
Kif dejjem qalu, il-POLITIKA MHIX GUGARELL.
Mr Edward Caruana Galizia
Oct 21st 2011, 20:28
The only reason why Dr Muscat is using the words "Hacking Scandal" is because he and his team have decided to borrow idea from what happened in the UK to plant doubts in people's minds. There was no hacking involved. He can insist all he wants. It just is not true.
How sad: a real tapping and hacking scandal goes on in one country and the PL decides that, in order to cover their actions up, they aim for the same headlines, as if what happened in the UK gives their stupid story some sort of credibility. It doesn't, but some people are so bored in Malta that using these words to describe what happened with these emails makes them feel like they actually have something to get worked up about. Yes, that is what all you people who think that the PN have some sort of high tech hacking equipment that is of the same standard as that at MI5 or MI6 which they use to hack into the PL database sound like. It's embarrassing to read some of the comments.
He should resign for throwing such an accusation around like it's some sort of fad or fashion to do so, too.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 20:26
As Del Boy (from the BBC sitcom "Only Fools and Horses" for the uniniated) would have put it : "What a plonker !"
Mary Ann Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 20:26
Dak li ili nghid u nikteb hawn rega hareg fid-deher. Joseph mhu xejn hlief gurnalist inqas minn ordinarju li sab ruhu kap ta' partit u forsi anke jsir prim ministru. Ma tantx jidher li tghallem mill kors fl-etika gurnalistika li organizza il-partit tieghu stess. Lanqas minn dal kors ma kkwalifika ahseb u ara bhala kap ta' partit.
Mhux ahjar jghidilna fuq kemm hu ferhan issa li Gaddafi tieghu jinsab go freezer tal kabocci flok joqghod jghatti il-mutetti li pprova jahmi ma gurnalista? U iktar ma tohrog din l-istorja iktar se johrog il-mod infantili li bih jipprova jaljena lill poplu li jrid jisma minn ghandu kif se jmexxi jekk xi darba jkun PM.
pat muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 20:17
Under GonziPN expect everything; 'kollox hu possible!' Now hacking, or fidgeting in other person's g mail is the honourable thing to do! Its like the' finanzi fis-sod', money no problem,' par idejn sodi' smart city will employ 5000 people and the great, great and great reform of the buses organized by the great organizing genius Dr Wistin Gatt!
J.C. Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 21:42
Probabbli għadek ma qrajtx kollox pat, biex qed tikteb hekk.
Jew għandek diska waħda u ħlief lilha ma tafx iddoqq??
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Oct 21st 2011, 20:15
Just hear the Net news on tv today or tomorrow and all the contents of the email will be revealed. It's a shame on Joseph Muscat and I support all the others who have said that Muscat should resign.
Mario Grima
Oct 22nd 2011, 08:01
The word resignation comes so easy to some blue folk whenever it pleases them. Pity you did not cry foul with regards Lawrence Gonzi when he gave himself and his cabinet a payrise of €500 and keeping it under wraps from the rest of the nation, Austin Gatt for his Arriva and BWSC fiasco, Christina's education mess which promted the EU to stop our funds, Tonio Borg for accepting a free hop on a private jet and free match tickets to see his beloved Arsenal, Joseph Cassar for the endless waiting list at Mater Dei and Care Workers scandal............. and the list goes on and on.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 19:53
@Albert Fenech (today at 18:01)
It is you who are “topsy turvy”. I do not say that hacking should be ignored. What I say is that the legality of any hacking has already been consigned to the investigators. It is now the time to move on and discuss seriously the unethical, disloyal and corrupting practices vividly described in this e-mail correspondence - unless, of course, transparency has suddenly gone out of fashion in the ranks of the LP.
The plethora of comments focussing on the hacking issue only, to the exclusion of the graver issues, is only a cheap propaganda trick intended to distract the attention of the public from the much more important scandalous and unethical improprieties disclosed in e-mails, that are now in the public domain and whose veracity is unchallenged, so much so that neither Muscat nor Agius have contested them.
Malta is one of the democratic countries where corruption should be taken seriously. Therefore it is of paramount importance that the electorate discusses openly if we want to elect a government whose cabinet is stuffed with people tainted with the corruption and abject behaviour described in the e-mails.
pat muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 20:21
'Malta is one of the democratic countries where corruption (should) be taken seriously'. Hold your breath; ask Transparency International; we are in the 28th Place and our standing is in a free fall!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 22nd 2011, 00:25
@ Pat Muscat.
I do not care to check what Transparency International has to say about us. I care a lot more that no one, and that includes the LP in this instance, should presume to hold himself above the need to account for the shenanigans that were being cooked up between Agius and Muscat as to how LP cabinet ministries could be horse-traded for a lady journalist offering to play the part of a subversive mole in various media media that are not under the thumb of that political party!
John Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 19:51
When labour used the e mails in the BWSC saga, it was a leak. when Joseph Muscat was caught chatting with an RTK journalist, who asked him to use her as he wished, and he suggested she should go to work for the times or PBS, he encouraged her.... and revealing this is not a leak but hacking. Hallina Dr Muscat!
John Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 19:49
very good comments from Dr Muscat... it's someone else to blame not him for writing what he wrote... This is our aspiring prime minister, acting in a way which can only be described as underhand.
G Schembri
Oct 21st 2011, 20:09
Some months back a very popular newspaper in the UK closed its door, because it was guilty of hacking, tapping phones, and using foul means for gaining information. I wonder not what the aspiring prime minister has to say but what the actual prime minster is going to do to his journalists who used foul means to produce this information. There is no legal way of acquiring such information without a court order.
Carmel Xuereb
Oct 21st 2011, 18:49
Il-PN u l-Knisja minn dejjem kienu t-trajbu u c-combini tal-bizzilla, jigifieri jekk ikun hemm wiehed minnhom nieqes il-bizzilla ma tinhadimx. Din storja li ilha ssir snin twal minn zmien il-mibki Strickland. Kemm tawh go wiccu lil Strickland, kemm qali li rawh itir ghax mazun u x'ma qalux fuqu? U wara komplew fuq ohrajn u issa jridi jdahhalu lil Joseph f'nassa ghax fir-referendum tad-divorzju ghaddihom with a mile. Pero' llum il-poplu m'ghadux injorant (grazzi ghal PL ghax ghamel l-iskejjel b'xejn u ghal kullhadd u obligatroji), issa l-poplu fetah mohhu u llum qieghed jara iktar minn qabel il-hazen ta' din l-ghaqda li hem bejn il-PN u l-Knisja. U lil Knisja nghidilha biex taghmel bhal ma qalilna Kristu f'dik il-parabbola tan-naghga l-mitlufa, tghid hekk qed taghme il-knisja jew qed titfa l-lupu fost il-merhla? Ma nafx imma hekk jidher li qed isir.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 21st 2011, 19:39
You can insult as much as you like but the facts are facts ... what she and joseph did was not ethical!!
Curt Spiteri
Oct 21st 2011, 20:32
Il-Poplu ikun injurant jekk jivvota partit li huwa vjolenti u hlief joffendi bi kliem kiefer ma jaghmilx... il PL fetah liskejjel u ghamilom b'xejn veru thanks to MINTOFF umbad il-PL ghalaq liskejjel tal knisja, ghalaq l-MCAST, nehha l-istipendji, nehha hafna mill-beneficji socjali, eccetra eccetraa... thanks to god, MINTOFF waqqa il gvern fjask li kellu il PL.... il-partit nazzjonalista almenu laffarijiet tajbin li ghamel Mintoff zammom ara l-partit laburistaa kull ma bena mintoff ried ikisruu.... Il-Knisja vera amlet zbalji mal partit laburistaa u hija tal misthijaa.... immaa in nazzjonalisti qatt ma kinu vjolenti ta!! u qatt ma qatlu nies!!... Dawn l-affarijiet issa huma parti mill-istorjaa u HADD ma jista jmerijom (jahbuwom biss jistghu)
Jurgen Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 18:48
Only 3 years in maltese parliament, he's hoping to be a prime minister and try to plant a mole in Malta public station.And what matters is not the contents,because those are not breach of law,but if someone have hacked into Dr.Muscat account.And accidently a week after Dr.Joseph Muscat himself and his PL and Super One members attack TVM.Of course you and PL are ideal to be given the Power of this country!!!haha
j brincat
Oct 21st 2011, 18:27
@Mark Galea
Quote:"If the emails were hacked, Joseph Muscat should start an investigation. However, Joseph Muscat knows all the story and will not start it"
Everybody know (apparently except you) that he has asked the Speaker of the House to start an investigation. the Speaker has still to give a ruling. I would wait and see before jumping into any conclusion.
(jb)
m. borg
Oct 21st 2011, 23:12
What a clever idea how about telling us how he should go about it Einstien?
Jo Camm
Oct 21st 2011, 18:26
Someone yesterday wrote 'a two sided sword' (Xabla taqta min zewg nahat). How correct s/he was!!
Andrew Cumbo
Oct 21st 2011, 18:19
Mhux ta b'xejn jghid li ha jaghmlu 20 sena ohra fil gvern. Qed niprova nahseb x'jistaw jaghmlu izjed dan nies biex jibqaw fil- poter!!!
Peter Bonnici
Oct 21st 2011, 17:59
Labour's double standards in this case is disgraceful. Not too long ago the PL was gleefully quoting text from leaked US Govt cables, where the Maltese PM lamented the limited talent pool when choosing ministers out of the parliamentary group. They could'nt care less that the cables were leaked illegally, and have been harping on the content of that cable ever since.
And now, alas, the contents of JM's email are irrelevant. All that matters now is the legality of the source.
m. borg
Oct 21st 2011, 23:14
Yea right wikileaks are all Joseph's fault.
Mr Peter Vella
Oct 21st 2011, 17:45
Does Joseph Muscat think we are idiots and cannot see through his ploy to deviate attention from the contents of his emails and his unethical behaviour? There is no case of hacking here:
1. He was not using his gov.mt address but his personal one
2. The emails he sent to Agius were received by her on her employers server - RTK's. so her employers have every legal right to view and publish them.
If the candidate for the job of PM thinks that he can pull the wool over eyes he has got it completely wrong and he is showing more and more how politically immature he is.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 17:27
Judging by the comments on this news item the propaganda effort to deviate the issue away from the scandalous underhanded LP shenanigans abundantly exposed in the Muscat-Agius exchange of indiscreet e-mail messages, is having some measure of success.
Most comments, especially those from labour affacionados concentrate on the hacking - not on the disgraceful content of the e-mails. Let us not fall into that trap. Let us concentrate on the unchallenged damning contents of the e-mails whilst allowing the hacking investigation to take their own course. The overwhelmingly important facet is the content of the e-mail not how they fell into the public domain. We are not hearing so much about transparency now.
ALBERT FENECH
Oct 21st 2011, 18:01
Very, very clever Dr Saliba. Yes, turn things in priority topsy-turvey. Let's closely study the messages and shoot the messengers - after all, hacking and privacy are not important so I guess that if somebody hacked into the details of your bank accounts, medical records and private correspondence you would glibly laugh this off as "just one of those things that happen". I suggest you enrol yourself with the Murdoch family. However, just remember that in democratic countries where such illegalities are taken seriously, the Murdochs lost a leading newspaper and their organisations are paying out millions of pounds in compensation thus illustrating that hacking is the overwhelmingly important facet and NOT as you suggest, the messages.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
Carmel Zammit
Oct 21st 2011, 18:14
In case you did not notice you have been challenged by J. Brincat to produce proof of what you claimed. It is incumbent upon you to prove what you claimed or eat humble pie. Medical doctors are trained to carry out meticulous analysis in their work. Hardly the case in your contribution it seems.
John Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 18:48
This is simple...If Ms Agius did not give permission to anyone to view these emails then it is illegal... if these were then shared with the media without her authorization then this also goes against the dp laws. Hacking or not the law was not obeyed here. Handling of stolen goods (which emails are) is still not legal.
On the content.... Thank god that this did not go through and that Ms Agius was never appointed head of the RTK news room instead of a someone siding (not a member of) the PL since now they have a very independent figure in that position coming straight from the net news room lol.
Angus Black
Oct 21st 2011, 17:25
The chickens are coming home to roost.
Joseph's intentions were certainly not honourable. I wonder what he should do?
He will cost Sabrina her job, although she has proved to be a disloyal employee and deserves the sack, anyway.
Maybe Sabrina should, in turn. sue Joseph for damages and the loss of her job.
Affarijiet ta fuq il-palk, jew ta fuq il-gallarija tal-Mile End. Tghid izanzana Joseph, jew...?
Carmelo Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 17:03
What sad little people .... hoping to get elected by lies and deceit
Carmel Zammit
Oct 21st 2011, 16:52
For all I know Dr. Muscat asked the speaker to investigate. In what is evidently a concerted effort gonzipn acolytes, fearing the truth, before the investigation even started, are trying to twist every bit of information this far revealed thereby deviate focus. Would it not be wiser to wait and see what comes out of the investigation if it ever takes place?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 17:05
@ Carmel Zammit.
Those who are "fearing the truth" are the protagonists of the infamous exchange of e-mails whose contents are not being challenged.
carmel muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 16:40
kunu afu li jien kont tkeccejt mix xol ax inqbadt insewwi il pompa ta lilma waqt ix xol xtipretendu li sabrijna ma titkecix dik amlet ar milli amilt jien ax uzatt anke l oda tal kumpanija ta rtk biss ma iridtx nider li irid tpatija kull ma qed niprova najd li anke jien kont tkeccejt u ma uzajtx oda tal kumpanija voldiri il kass ta sabrijna uwa akbar
Mario H Calleja
Oct 21st 2011, 16:34
I would have been more interested if the media present asked questions on Dr Muscat's views on the dairy industry. Visiting Malta Dairy Products Ltd (brand name Benna) would have been the opportunity for us to understand what a future Labour Government would do to stregthen the position of the local milk production.
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Oct 21st 2011, 16:03
Joseph Muscat should resign. His resignation would be an advantage to the PN as he is going to be the person to let down the PL with his childish accusations and stupidity.
Carmel Zammit
Oct 21st 2011, 17:04
You couldn't have more correct: "His resignation would be an advantage to the PN!!!!!!!!
ALBERT FENECH
Oct 21st 2011, 17:42
Mr Calleja, as you have placed yourself as lawyer, jury and judge in this matter and have very quickly zoomed to an ultimate verdict, what happens if in the following appeal Joe Muscat is proved to be right? Presumably, by your self-declared judgement, he should then be immediately installed as Prime Minister! On the other hand, your philosophical advice to Muscat would be that he should lie down and let everybody walk all over him, thereby illustrating his maturity. There is only one basic flaw in all this logic - that is that your logic is totally flawed and your philosophy renders itself null and void.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
Angus Black
Oct 21st 2011, 18:46
@ Albert Fenech
Just on the contents of the published e-mails, it would be hard to justify Joseph's underhanded attempts at placing Labour moles in as many 'unsympathetic' media as possible. He has not denied sending the e-mails advising Sabrina to first be patient at RTK, then to apply at the Times (and granted interview there) and finally to apply at PBS!
These e-mails reflect Joseph's policy at snatching power at all costs and to run roughshod if he ever gets there. This is certainly a first (in recent history) in Maltese politics and proves that Joseph is scraping the very bottom of the Labour Party's barrel.
ALBERT FENECH
Oct 21st 2011, 19:51
Mr Black (I assume this is your name!), as my memory is fading, particularly regarding underhand tactics at snatching power, perhaps your memory serves you enough to remind us all how Dr Eddie Fenech Adami ousted Dr Giorgio Borg Olivier from the PN leadership and became PN Leader himself. I have forgotten the finer details.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
A Dimech
Oct 21st 2011, 15:58
The argument here is simple.
Hacking into private e-mails is illegal; Did PN hack into e-mails or not?!!
If yes, (as seems to be the case) police should investigate and culprits brought to justice.
This is against EU convention of Human rights for data protection and respect of a private life. In some countries where this legislation has been tested - there was also cases of imprisonment.
It is a serious matter if Gonzi is allowing these to happen in his party and his government.
Simple. Did hacking occur? if yes there needs to be a prosecution.
Mark Galea
Oct 21st 2011, 16:25
If the emails were hacked, Joseph Muscat should start an investigation. However, Joseph Muscat knows all the story and will not start it.
It was pretty naive for a future PM of Malta.
John Said
Oct 21st 2011, 16:33
Does the computer belong to the employer? if yes end of story, the employer can use his computer when he wants and as he wants. Is the internet connection provided by the employer? If yes he can monitor what it is being used for! The employer should have sacked his employe for using the computer to send personal emails!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 17:02
@ A Dimech.
The argument is different, but not at all simple.
The legality or otherwise of any hacking in this case is a diversionary side issue to distract the public's attention away from the really big scandal of a prospective future LP prime minister personally masterminding a disloyal subversive journalist implanted in the RTK deliberately to spy on that radio station, and possible similar subversion in two other media, with the carrot promise of the advancement of that disloyal journalist up to a possible ministerial cabinet post. Do you relish Malta being governed by such a cabinet?
By all means let us investigate ALL cases of suspected illegal hacking. But we must not allow that concern to distract us from the grievous scandals uncovered in those e-mails - scandals that no one is denying, not even Sabrina Agius or Joseph Muscat.
Alfred Dimech
Oct 21st 2011, 17:06
You should ask the accusing parties, because it would take them exactly 5 seconds to check.
Richard Caruana
Oct 21st 2011, 15:44
If JM is so sure that these emails were hacked, why hasn't he started an investigation into his own company that handles the PL's site, josephmuscat.com? That's where it's got to start. If they are so incompetent to let hackers get into their system it's their own fault.
On the other hand, they all appear to be printouts and have the GMail logo on them, meaning that the most probable source was Ms Agius' computer itself.
Get a basic course in IT JM and then start talking about hacking!
Carmel camilleri
Oct 21st 2011, 15:29
Instead of dealing with the contents of the e-mails Joseph is trying to distract attention from it by focusing on how they were got hold of . Always the same tactics of playing the victim.
Perhaps he will tell us how did the Labour Media got hold of the emails of the 'No for Divorce' before the referendum.
FR. J. Borg will be happy to know.
Mario Grima
Oct 21st 2011, 16:39
This case is about theft of data and nothing more. Any reference to the contents is absurd.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 17:48
Mario Grima :"Absurd" especially if the contents embarass Joseph Muscat (which they do !) after the PL got hold of the "No For Divorce" emails. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander !
Bryan James
Oct 21st 2011, 14:52
Reading all these stories and email scandals, and all these hatred red & blue tinted posts, once again I am very proud of being affiliated with no political party, and not even care to go vote for these half-witted political people you all see as almighty heroes!
A. Mizzi
Oct 21st 2011, 14:44
The issue is how the Nationalist Media got hold of these e-mails! The only way these these e-mails could have been obtained legally was if they were given by Dr. Muscat or by Ms. Sabrina Agius to the Nationalist Media!
Is hacking involved?
Who is safe from Big Brother who is not not only watching you, but listening to your mobile / telphone conversations and now hacking your e-mail?
Alfred Dimech
Oct 21st 2011, 14:43
Rather than throw accusations around to amuse the gullible and the illiterate why doesn't Muscat actually do some investigation? It would take exactly 5 SECONDS to verify whether Ms. Agius' gmail account was hacked by checking the IP login list. Why hasn't this been done?
We all know what really happened. She left her PC unlocked, and someone printed the pages from her gmail account. Was this person breaking the law? Possibly, though this depends on whether a court interprets this as an act of whistle-blowing or not.
G Schembri
Oct 21st 2011, 20:02
Since you know what really happened you can contact Mr Speaker and under oath say what you have just said and you can also tell him who this someone was.
No one has the right to open someone else's laptop let alone open their email account and print its contents. The court cannot interpret this as whistle-blowing, you can only be a whistle blower if you are aware of corruption, this was only an exercise to discredit Joseph Muscat and render jobless yet another young journalist who did not tow the PN line.
j brincat
Oct 21st 2011, 14:40
@ Mr Lawrence Calleja
Quote: "Joseph Muscat was totally unethical. God forbids what he would do once he is Prime Minister as I believe will be the case next coming election"
Please enlighten us and show to one and all WHERE Dr Muscat was unethical. As regards the next election we came to it when we come to cross bridge.And don't worry we would be prepared. So that you can rest your mind.
Meanwhile, we are waiting for your reply , so as to broaden our knowledge about 'ethics'
(jb)
Brian Gatt
Oct 21st 2011, 14:37
The majority here are saying the Dr Muscat did a preposterous mistake and he was trying to undermine the Democracy in this country after having read the e-mails over and over again I would like one of these so called indviduals who think that their intelligence is above average point out these preposterous mistakes since I couldnt find such faults.
All I saw was a conversation between the leader of the opposition and an ambitious journalist trying to impress and leave her mark. Dr Muscat never told her to reveal any secret, he never pressed her for information, all there was were her views on a program being aired on One TV, and Dr Muscat telling her to stay put in her job beacuse he needs her there. Now please tell me what is wrong with that?
Joseph Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 16:29
ezatt il hsieb tieghi Brian. mam hawn ftakar li jew nofshom jaraw blu biss, jew inkella jaqraw it title u jikkumentaw minghajr ma jkunu qraw il kumplament!
Brian Gatt
Oct 21st 2011, 16:41
Joseph,
and these call themselves intelligent - just a bunch of ninnies and nitwits repeating "bhal pappagalli"what they hear on their TV and Radio station
John Said
Oct 21st 2011, 14:34
If Dr. Muscat is correct in saying that these mails were hacked, I ask my self if these are the most important emails he received or sent during that time frame, and if the persons who hacked his mail would give them selves out just for this kind of corrispondence?
In my modest opinion Dr. Muscat is just trying to shift the attention from what is in the mails, ie a prove that even labour uses 'indipendent' journalists for their own advantage, just now that they are putting pressure on the PBS about Lou Bondi. Dr. Muscat is just trying to get the best out of an unfavourable situation. Not to write the proper maltese word lets say he is VERY WISE!
Matthew Psaila
Oct 21st 2011, 14:34
We get scandalized about what happens in foreign countries, for e.g. Libya, but in our country it's ok to spy, to hack and to tap people's telephone's by our authorities!!! Practiced democracy at its best!!!
j brincat
Oct 21st 2011, 14:33
@Francis Saliba M.D.
"If Joseph Muscat says that hacking took place, then it must be so! And he must be considered an authority on the subject because hacked e-mails were freely published in the pro-MLP media, without protest, during the divorce referendum campaign"
Proof. Give us proof to back your statement because this is the first that we have come to know of this 'breaking news'. As far as I remember during the divorce referendum (when the PM voted against the will of the majority) it was JPO & Evarist who claimed their mobile was being intercepted. Can't remember whether that their claim was thrown out of the window by the competent authority.
Now the ball is in your court to prove what you said!
We are waiting.............
(jb)
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 17:10
Stop waiting. Consult the e-mails between Agius and Muscat and understand the references to Papag(whatshisname) by Sabrina.
Mark Abela
Oct 21st 2011, 14:30
I also invite you all (il-lejburisti nkluzi) to ask yourself one question:
Would you employ a person who shows such disloyalty with your company?
Would you trust such a person to work for you?
Answer honestly.
Francis Coquelin
Oct 21st 2011, 14:29
Forgive my ignorance, Joseph Muscat, but I feel that encouraging someone to do something which get her fired does indeed constitute improper behaviour.
Antoine Vella
Oct 21st 2011, 14:22
I hope the milk at Benna didn't go sour. Joseph Muscat's answers were very acidic.
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 14:17
Dr. Muscat you epitomise unethical behaviour. Maybe you could ask President George Abela what he thinks.
John Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 14:12
This is simple...If Ms Agius did not give permission to anyone to view these emails then it is illegal... if these were then shared with the media without her authorization then this also goes against the dp laws. Hacking or not the law was not obeyed here. Handling of stolen goods (which emails are) is still not legal.
On the content.... Thank god that this did not go through and that Ms Agius was never appointed head of the RTK news room instead of a someone siding (not a member of) the PL since now they have a very independent figure in that position coming straight from the net news room lol.
Lisa Marie Schembri
Oct 21st 2011, 14:08
I always thought gmail was secure..... have to say we've got some well trained and professional hackers on this beautiful, peaceful and catholic island!!
Stefan Enge
Oct 21st 2011, 13:55
Maybe someone explains Mr. Muscat that emails are like post cards? If he wants nobody to read his emails he should encrypt them!
Mario Mifsud
Oct 21st 2011, 13:51
Will everyone please say "Yes Joseph, you're right as usual" otherwise we will see him stamping his little feet and having tantrums for months to come. I for one don't think that I can take it for another day let alone for many more months.
Mr Albert Dimech
Oct 21st 2011, 13:50
If you leave your mobile on your desk while you go to the toilet, am I justified to make it mine? So, stealing is stealing, not matter what the object is.
Now if it is being claimed that the emails where obtained legally, so could we please know how? If a stolen article is found in your possession, you will have to explain how you got it.
Asking for JM's resignation is absolutely ridiculous and he is clearly the injured party here. Whatever happened to the data protection law?
Joseph E Briffa
Oct 21st 2011, 17:35
Poor little Joseph..he's got a long way to go...on the other hand is it possible that he can be so naive? Inexperienced and immature, no doubt, but naive?. Is it possible that Labour doesn't have anybody a lit bit less childlike and innocent for a leader? Or could it be that JM was deliberately chosen so everybody in the Labour fold can have a field day and pull their leader's strings to satisfy their whims? According to JM this is a hacking business, and our democracy is at stake. In fact this hienous act was given a greater priority in some papers than Gaddafi's demise. So much for the
wisdom of the editors of some papers. And doesn't JM realise that whoever discovered these emails would find them interesting once none other than the Leader of the Opposition was involved? And the more so when it was discovered that the correspondence revolved around the planting of reporters or journalists or whoever with a marked political bias in independent establishments? The way the whole matter was handled by JM doesn't say much about the ability of a leader of the position to handle delicate matters in a discreet manner. Imagine if he were to be trusted with the handling of onerous matters like running a country.
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Oct 21st 2011, 13:45
Joseph Muscat was totally unethical. God forbids what he would do once he is Prime Minister as I believe will be the case next coming election.
Steve M. Engerer
Oct 21st 2011, 13:51
I believe otherwise!!
From what I see in the Labour Party & lack of ideas it seems that yes the Nationalist Party will win the next general election...
I truly hope so for Malta's sake!
I Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 13:53
Im going to live abroad ... PN gave us a way out !!
Mr Hans Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 14:46
@ Mr Lawrence Calleja
How exactly Joseph Muscat was unethical? Does his actions remotely resemble the actions of the person/s who hacked Ms Agius' or Dr Muscat emails?
Joseph Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 15:19
ohhhh my god ...what is going to happen if he is the next PM....my god we are going to die ...its the end of the world!! 2012 is so near!! u halluna!
F daqqa wahda kulhadd expert tal IT hawn, ghax tallimtu tiktbu naqra go blog! Ma nafx ghala dan l itkazar kollu. Jekk nofskhom indenjajtu ruhkom taqraw l emails ma nara xejn hazin anzi pjuttost hemm kontenut bhal (ahna veru maghqudin u mhux taparsi, dik l ideja li il programmi fuq one namluwhom imparzjali kemm nistaw) juruni li JM qed jipprova jahdem bis serjeta u jnehhi l ghanqbud li kien trabba fil PL kulhadd kien jiekol kemm jiflah.
Sa fejn naf jiena JM ma jdahhalx neis jahdmu mal PBS jew RTK ...kieku fil gvern u dahlet il PBS nghid pacenzja! Barra min hekk ma nistax nifhem kif emaisl li ntbghatu l RTK illijkjaw Media Link? saret xi branch gdida tal PN? ghax jekk ma illijkjawx allura ihhekjaw is sistemi taghhom ukoll minghajr ma ndunaw!
Jiena kull ma rajt f dawn l emails, gurnalista tilaq il kap tal oppozizzjoni u hu jirrispondi l emails in a single sentence.
Barra min hekk l email uzat huwa tal Gmail so LE il kumpanija ma ghandiex dritt tarha il kontenut tal emails privati li nibghat.
Il kumpanija ghanda biss dritt tara xi traffic diehel u hiereg u x emails qed jintbaghtu mil email tax xoghol xejn aktar u xejn anqas.
Pero bir rispett kollu....nahseb hadd minkhom mix xoghol qad ma baghat email, laghab xi loghba, ra xi joke jew dahal facebook!
Jekk il kumpanija trid li tikkontrolla l-internet , facilment tista taghlaq certu sites permezz ta firewall u ma thallix access ghalijhom. Pero ftakkru li illum email anki min mobile tibghata so triq jew ohra ha ssib.
pat muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 15:34
Unethical is the Prime Minister who gave a 500 euros rise to himself whilst a 1.16 euros a week for the rest of us!
Michael Magri
Oct 21st 2011, 15:51
Mr. Calleja.. `God forbid` for GonziPN and his regime but surely not for the rest of the Maltese Citizins...!!
Nicholas Cassar
Oct 21st 2011, 16:02
pfff x'int drammatiku!
steve fenech
Oct 21st 2011, 13:43
'mita nervious about the issue' quite the opposite...seems that muscat has been caught out and hi is darting about like a 'blue arsed fly'...i know wrong colour but right insect !! how is that for integrity?
Anthony Camilleri
Oct 21st 2011, 13:41
How pathetic of JM!!!!!!! How even more pathetic the efforts of all those trying to defend such an indefensible situation in which JM found himself. what a laugh I'm having. Enjoying every bit of it especially when i realise tht so often these same people are so quick to use every opportunity to rubbish the PN or its leader throing all ethics and morality in the rubbish bin. Ha ha
pat muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 13:26
If hacking took place it should be investigated and the law should be applied and not interpreted!
daniel farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 13:23
I'm still not understanding what joseph muscat did wrong ???? did you read the emails? and to does who are trying to say that they were not hacked, i remind you that joseph muscat said "hacked or stolen"! so if Ms,agius left the email open and somebody saw her PC and printed the emails it is still stealing.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 13:46
"I 'm still not understanding what joseph muscat did wrong ???? ".
Daniel Farrugia : Take a deep breath, find some peace and quiet and re-read the emails slowly; if you still do not find anything wrong, then it seems that anything goes nowadays !
Anthony Farrugia (No relation)
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 21st 2011, 13:53
Muscat himself might not have done too much wrong ... indeed he kept his replies very short ... but she has been very unprofessional since she used her position in the station in order to damage the same station and her employer!! And the cause (helping PL) is not such honorable (wouldn’t have been honorable if helping PN either).
Steve Borg - Marsascala
Oct 21st 2011, 13:15
@A Cuschieri
Ghaliex qed tghid li qed tkun sarkastiku? Shabu stess tal-istess Partit Nazzjonalista qed ihossu li mhux qed jaqdi dmiru kif jixraq minn ministru. Id-dikjarazzjonijiet tieghu, li mhux qed jitlef irqad dwar il-problema tat-trasport - fost il-hafna affarijiet ohra - ma tantx nizlu sewwa mal-poplu, irrespettivament ma' min izommu politikalment. Jekk idejjaq jirrezenja u jiehu postu haddiehor fil-parlament.
James Tyrrell
Oct 21st 2011, 13:13
It looks like Gonzi PN has put a call out to their supporters to do what they can to rubbish Joseph's allegations of hacking or at least that is the impression being given in the press. If they have did nothing wrong what are they worried about? It is said that all is fair in love and politics but it appears that is only the case if the PN are caught with their trousers down. Let's say the police come to your house and kick down the door and carry out a search. During that search they find a gun which was used in a recent murder and it's covered in your fingerprints. Problem is the police had no search warrant. So are you going to accept the fact that you have been caught or are you going to say that the police had no right to carry out the search in the first place and therefore and evidence found cannot be used as it is fruit of the poisoned tree? The real crime here is not what was said in the emails but the fact that the contents of the emails was made public contrary to the Data Protection Act.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 21st 2011, 13:54
Do you think PN would have shown such correspondence in such an official way if they had really obtained it illegally!?
Mark Abela
Oct 21st 2011, 14:28
So the whole whistleblowing hysteria is no longer important now? GonziPN doesn't do anything of the sort because people who follow GonziPN generally have a mind to think for themselves. Unfortunately for Malta, the same cannot be said for most PL. It is very easy for someone to claim that they were hacked but in reality if you had some knowledge of IT and computer science you would know that it is not something so simple to do without leaving tracks of some sort. Any reasonable person would reach the conclusion that somehow the emails were leaked to the press from inside RTK. A claim that someone was hacked is ridiculous and is just a ploy to divert attention from the real issue.
Now just to be sensible and to put things into perspective, let us assume that in fact the PN do employ some genius computer guru to hack Joseph Muscat, as he claims. Would you think that this would be the only thing to make the news?! Be practical and think with your own brain rather than being fed everything you are told. It was a leaked blunder and it is now being covered up with a bogus hacking claim which was probably the first excuse they could think of.
Before you go on to say that I am brainwashed or something of the sort, I am very sure that these things happen all the time and such email correspondence does not only happen among PL ranks. I question the ethics of these exchanges. Is it ethical for the leader of the opposition to wish someone be employed at the Times? I don't know. Why would she say something like 'uzani kif trid'? I'm sure these are important questions to ask. Maybe they are newly accepted ethical methods used by progressive persons. Way too complicated for us mortals to understand.
Il-progressiv zelqitlu nsomma.
James Tyrrell
Oct 22nd 2011, 02:22
@Joseph Aquilina. In a word yes. I think you credit PN with brains that it doesn't actually have which surprises me given the state of you economy, your transport system, your power industry etc. etc.
@Mark Abela. You make some good points Mark but if you have ever followed anything that I have written in the past you would know that I write what I feel needs to be written and I can assure you nobody 'feeds' me anything! As for PN employing some 'genius computer guru' why would that be necessary? You seem to be of the impression that hacking is something which is only carried out by the likes of MI5 or the CIA and seem to forget that most computer savvy kids do it for fun!
Tonio Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 13:03
Facts :
1. if there was hacking, people should be pursued legally.
2. the content of the email... well, it's all to prove that it is a "new driver, driving an old bus!"
ole!
A Cuschieri
Oct 21st 2011, 14:19
You're correct.
To add to what you're saying, if it's a legal matter, you'd go to the law enforcement authority (i.e. the police) and keep everything confidential for the investigation to be conducted in an integral environment, THEN, once the investigation is completed and there were wrongdoings, yes by all means, name and shame! . But definately not go to the speaker of the house to make the matter public (if it's so sensitive).
Muscat was after exposure - on something that not everybody understands - with the hope that most would believe his allegations.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 13:00
@ Patrick Larsson. (today at 12:16)
If Joseph Muscat says that hacking took place, then it must be so! And he must be considered an authority on the subject because hacked e-mails were freely published in the pro-MLP media, without protest, during the divorce referendum campaign.
Now let us return to the real gist of this news item and concentrate on the scandalous underhanded scheming wheeling-and-dealing disclosed by e-mails whose veracity no one is challenging - not even our prime minister-in-waiting.
Alfred Vassallo
Oct 21st 2011, 13:39
Let me tell you what is 'scandalous underhanded scheming wheeling-and-dealing'......When the PM gave 500Euros to the Cabinet and himself.... if that isn't I don't know what is.
Mr Albert Dimech
Oct 21st 2011, 13:54
Spot on Alfred Vassallo, it seems that Dr Saliba is not a very busy doctor or he is retired with lots of free time to spare.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 21st 2011, 13:57
@Alfred Vassallo
We are not talking about that at the moment. If you noticed the article has a T I T L E . The T I T L E of the article says what the article is about. So go and read the T I T L E and then let me know if what you said has anything to do with the article.
P Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 14:24
You are wrong Saliba. emails published in the pro-MILP media were leaked not hacked. If you do not know the difference then find out before you continue to write nonsense.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 15:22
@ Alfred Vassallo.
I won't dispute your "red herring" reference to parliamentary salaries. Also, I won't dispute the allegation of hacking, true or false. They are obvious diversions.
I will only say - let us get our priorities right and keep firmly fixed before our eyes the scandalous revelations in these e-mails because their veracity is not challenged. Everything else is a diversionary, distracting tactic to hide underhanded behaviour that is deplorable ans unacceptable from someone who is being proposed by the LP as our next prime minister.
B Azzopardi
Oct 21st 2011, 16:05
@Alfred Vasallo
Oh shut up...ha tibqaw sejrin biha...get over it...Issa tara kemm ha jtik Muscat....he's doing everything in his power to win the next election....its up to you to decide who you trust!!
Mario Grima
Oct 21st 2011, 16:48
Until such time as you desist from removing your blue blinkers you would continue to utter pure nonsense. I must admit that your inquisitive mind and your ambition to act the detective takes the better of you!!!
Mario H Calleja
Oct 21st 2011, 12:59
I would like to ask if the media was really interested in asking Dr Muscat about his views on the company he visited, Malta Dairy Products Ltd, of which Benna is the brand name. What are his views on the dairy industry in our country? But it seems that this was not important for them.
Bryan James
Oct 21st 2011, 14:43
Ahjar jinvestigaw il-halib li qed inbellaw it-tfal taghna, kollu Hormones u Antibiotics. X futur sabih...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2012050/The-cocktail-20-chemicals-glass-milk.html
A Cuschieri
Oct 21st 2011, 12:37
Tort ta' Austin Gatt ...
Kieku ma kienx hu li mexxa l-quddiem it-teknologija u l-komunikazzjoni f'pajjizna, kieku ma konniex nkunu qed nuzaw l-emails u dal-kaz ma kienx isehh.
Qed tara, dur dur, kollox tort t'Austin.
(by the way, I'm being sarcastic here)
R. Gauci
Oct 21st 2011, 13:08
Bhal ma fis-snin 70 stajna nghidu li tort ta` Mintoff kieku kellna indigestjoni jew xi allergija tas-sapun ghax qabel l-1971 mhux kullhadd kien jiekol u jinhasel, fil-fatt l-iscabies kienet order of the day, ma kienetx news bhal-lum.
Bryan James
Oct 21st 2011, 14:39
So all the technological advances that came from creators, thinkers and inventors, are to be attributed to a politician?
Do we also have to thank Austin Gatt because we are so blessed we can use e-mail and read The Times online?!
A Cuschieri
Oct 21st 2011, 16:50
i'm not talking about inventing the technology, but about making it available.
Yes I think some credit should go to the Minister. Considering that in the past, computers were existent but nobody in Malta could afford them, now everyone has laptops and smartphones. Nobody had internet, now almost every household. Nobody had a mobile phone, now almost every adult. Few knew how to use a computer, now there are FREE courses for beginners.
Come on and be honest, the guy did make a difference in the technology stream. Now if you want to ridicule the argument and say that we should attribute the inventions to him, you either want to be funny, or you just don't want to admit what good has been done.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 12:32
In view of the obvious hacking and publishing without protest of e-mails during the divorce referendum it is evident that the present hullabaloo about hacking is an all too obvious attempt to produce a smokescreen so as to hconceal the gravity of the Joseph Muscat- Sabrina Agius exchange of authentic e-mails depicting rank employee dishonesty and disloyaly and related horse-trading and influence peddling at the very highest LP level.
The intelligent section of the population will not be distracted from that overriding scandal.
Carmel Zammit
Oct 21st 2011, 12:47
And I presume you consider yourself forming part of this intelligent section!!!! I know of no busy intelligent and proficient medical doctor engaging in fantasy scribbles.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 13:05
@ Carmel Zammit.
In all humility, yes, I do consider myself one among many thousands who form part of the intelligent section of the general public. What about you?
Tony Agius
Oct 21st 2011, 13:19
Had ghadu ma hareg bil prova li dan kien veru hacking, min jghoqod jassumi li dan kien hacking u ma jgiebx provi, ikun qieghed jiprova jkompli jidhaq bin - nies. Ezat kif hafna drabi jghamel Joseph Muscat.
Michael Hudson
Oct 21st 2011, 13:33
@ Carmel Zammit
Mr. Zammit, you are spot on. I've been seeing this name all over the place and he seems specialized in all subjects. Sickening.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 21st 2011, 13:58
That is what PL stands for ... if I do it to you that it is not a problem ... if you do it to me then it is a crimes against humanity!! and I am pretty sure PN would not have released such emails if they had not obtained them in a legal way!!
Charles Muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 12:32
Rupert Murdoch's fault.
Matthew Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 12:25
Wow ... a couple of e-mails and everyone wants him to resign ... imagine if a maltese MP had some private messages leaked on Wikileaks describing his untalented pool of Ministers, and finding out that military arms passed through maltese borders during the Libya civil war, and having dictators signing cheques on our soil with ministers consent ...
GonziPN supporters REALLY need to wake up and stop acting so proud against PL supporters. At least have the decency to view both viewpoints. It's disgraceful to think that you overlook so many failures and wrongdoings done by the same party you support so blindly. It's never a question of supporting one party over the other, it's a matter of supporting your country. You vote for the party that provides best, and at this point, anything that PL does would be better than the shameful years that Gonzi and Dr. "MoneynoProblem" have had. It's disgusting to think you're so blinded that you're willing to sacrifice your future just because we associate every single member of PL with the last 4 years of Mintoff's legislature.
Mr Tim Ripard
Oct 21st 2011, 12:49
Il-PN jaghmel zball u kulhadd huwa liberu jikkritikah, u hekk isir, u hekk ghandu jkun u meta l-PL (Joseph) jaghmel zball ghandu jistenna li jigi kkritikat u daqshekk. M'hux ahjar jammettih l-izball li ghamel, siehbi? Inutli tipprova titfa' l-bzar f' l-ghajnejn bil 'failures and wrongdoings' tal-PN. Hawn m'hux lokhom. Hawn qed naraw u nikkritkaw zball ta' Joseph. Ibqa' fuq is-suggett.
Carmel Zammit
Oct 21st 2011, 13:11
@ TIm Rippard
How can anyone consider Joseph's claim as an error??? Looks like Malta is all of a sudden endowed with an over-abundance of IT gurus!
Gordon Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 13:18
Tim? zball? xi zball ghamel ma nafx ta - il-gurnalista tibghatlu e-mails u hu naturalment jirrispondi. bhalikieku l-ministri nazzjonalisti ma jaghmluhiex kuljum dil-haga - ma nafx li huma santijiet.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 21st 2011, 15:40
@Matthew Micallef
You loose the argument as soon as you used the word "imagine" which in other words means there are no facts any you are only inventing things in order to make look what Joseph did less bad!!
Julian Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 12:23
Joseph Muscat is trying - ineffectively - to deflect the scrutiny on his actions. He is a disgrace to party and country and I hope many out there will weigh the consequences of his actions seriously. this is what he is capable of from Opposition benches - imagine what he will get up to if God forbid he gains the trust of the electorate! Did I just say trust? Hmmmm
Patrik Larsson
Oct 21st 2011, 12:16
Is there any proof of this alleged hacking attempt?
Alfred Bugeja
Oct 21st 2011, 12:14
The man needs to look up the term 'hacking' in a dictionary!
Paul Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 12:55
Le. qabghad u ta permess lil tan NET.
Alfred Bugeja
Oct 21st 2011, 13:51
Paul, to start with, the copies of the emails that were published show clearly that the copies came from Sabrina Agius's account.
J. Abela
Oct 21st 2011, 12:11
Doesn't Joesph Muscat know that if the emails were sent through RTK's server, most probably they were recorded? It was only a matter of time before they were leaked. How dumb.
Franco Abela
Oct 21st 2011, 14:22
They were sent from GMAIL which does not pass through a company's email server. It passes through the internet server but that cannot records the content of a web email.
Tony Agius
Oct 21st 2011, 12:08
Imissu jisthi Joseph Muscat jippoza tas - sewwa meta il hazin jider car li qieghed jghamlu hu stess. Min dak li der sa issa diga jider car li meta Joseph Muscat jajjar lin - Nazzjonalisti b'limgieba disonesta , jaghamel hekk ghax Hu stess ikun wettaq b'hala jew hafna ghar minnha.
R. Gauci
Oct 21st 2011, 12:39
Int tahseb kieku kellna nqallbu l-emails ta` l-MPs Nazzjonalisti ma nsibu xejn? Jekk le allura dawn mhux umani. Qed tinholoq storja mix-xejn ghax hawn la hawn korruzjoni, la theddid, la xi love story mohbija, vera b'kollox jipprovaw jaljenaw.
A Cuschieri
Oct 21st 2011, 14:16
R Gauci,
L-istorja holoqha Joseph Muscat stess. Kieku ried ikun korrett, u vera emmen li trid issir gustizzja ma kienx imur iqajjem l-argument fil-parlament imma mal-Pulizija ghaliex huma l-entita li jinvestigaw dawn l-allegati abbuzi.
Imma Muscat ried jiehu vantagg politiku b'affarijiet li mhux kulhadd jifhem. Hawn hafna nies ma jafhux x'inhu hacking, kif isir u ghal xiex jista jwassal, allura jemmnu kull kelma li jghid il-leader. Apparti l-fatt li fil-kummenti ta Muscat jider car li lest jitfa l-vlegeg, imma jevita kull mistoqsija dwar l-ghagir tieghu. Jiggudika (u jittimbra) lil haddiehor imma lilu nnifsu le.
Mr David Ganado
Oct 21st 2011, 12:07
Does he know what hacking actually involves? If he has definitive proof of this alleged hacking he should show it, instead of blabbing on like a spoilt brat!
If all he has to go on is the scanned images we have seen, then there is nothing that can prove it was done by hacking, it was more of a simple case of Ms. Agius being silly enough to leave her email open and someone taking the opportunity to print out the emails.
What about the emails leaked by the PL press during the divorce referendum? Was that not hacking also? Oh, of course not.....when its done by the PL its only investigative journalism!!
If whoever printed these emails did it because of founded suspicions that Ms. Agius was working against the interests of RTK, her employer, then his/her actions could be considered reasonable within the ideal of the Wistleblower law Joseph Muscat himself has been clamouring for!
John Zammit
Oct 21st 2011, 12:05
JM should stop claiming the emails were stolen and admit he was in the wrong. This is an utter shame of his behalf and should consider resigning!
Mr Albert Dimech
Oct 21st 2011, 13:42
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha u what a joke? Resign for what? For having a harmless private conversation? Anyone, can email JM and he will answer you, not like many government officials who simply ignore the citizen.
Sammy Vella
Oct 21st 2011, 12:00
Qeghdin nghixu fi stat ta li spijji u stat tal biki... Tisthi tghid li int malti
anthony farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 12:29
Tisthi tghid li int laburist. Il-Partit Laburista jixraqlu ahjar. Dr. Joseph Muscat please resign.
Mr Charles Falzon
Oct 21st 2011, 12:56
@ anthony farrugia......u tghid mhux hekk!!! Nishti nghid li jien Nazzjonalist imma.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Oct 21st 2011, 11:54
Shouldn’t Joseph Muscat kindly explain the reasons of such communications as evidenced in these e-mails rather than HOW these e-mails came out in the public?
Is it ethical for a leader of a political party and a potential Prime Minister to act in such manners, especially behind the people’s back?
If this isn’t WORRYING, then I don’t know what is!
JC.
E Gatt
Oct 21st 2011, 11:43
Someone is stuck in a hole, and stuck to his mole.
Marija Falzon
Oct 21st 2011, 11:41
So firstly this PN government wanted to know what goes on in our bedrooms, and now also in our e-mails. This country should be renamed Gonzistan.
M Sciberras
Oct 21st 2011, 12:05
Get acquainted with the facts! (a) hacking emails is not as complicated as it sounds and no matter what muscat says you really have to be a fan of conspiracy theories to really believe govt hacked emails!!! (b) if these emails were in fact hacked the fault probably lies with muscat or the journalist because their systems did not follow basic security protocols. Having said that I suggest you read the e mails. The complete lack of personal or professional ethics by the journalist in question is staggering, and I sincerely hope we never see or hear of her again in public or political life. As for muscat.....well this is malta..... No one resigns. But we can all read the emails........!!!!
Mark Galea
Oct 21st 2011, 12:05
We already had a M...Stan before 1987, now we are free to vote and criticise without being beaten up.
M.O. Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 11:36
Asked whether his behaviour had been ethical, Dr Muscat said that what was definitely unethical was stealing e-mails......typical labour this ...only the others sin(v)...whose server was being used, was Ms. Agius told on what terms of reference she was using RTK's e-mail service?????...can anyone publish what was exchanged now that we know the mails were hacked...we are verrrrrrry curious.
Mr Charles Falzon
Oct 21st 2011, 12:10
l emails deheru fl ahbarijiet...xejn milli dak li qed tahseb int!!!
Vanessa Attard
Oct 21st 2011, 12:20
Mr / Ms Micallef it's none of your / our business what was written on the emails......stealing is always a crime whether is it physical or non..............
"........we are verrrrrrry curious", kindly note that I am not curious of what was written so please SPEAK TO YOURSELF not in general!!! Let me remind also you that there is a saying which maybe you have forgotten or never heard of: "Curiosity Killed the Cat"
Mark Galea
Oct 21st 2011, 11:35
Tidher l-integrita ta' Joseph Muscat fl-istorja.
U jekk "ihhakjawlu" l-email, ghax ma hargux hafna aktar stejjer fil-pubbliku ... din kienet xi JPO jew ?(issa JMO)
G. Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 11:25
This is our future Prime Minister.................God forbid !!
W Cassar
Oct 21st 2011, 12:00
No worse than Gonzi!
Matthew Micallef
Oct 21st 2011, 12:16
God forbid?? Seriously?!?! Would you rather we have Tonio Fenech as PM?? It's not like he was in the middle of big scandalS (plural) ... Wait ... Now that I think about it ...