Updated - RTK journalist suspended over Muscat e-mail exchanges
Sabrina Agius, the RTK journalist at the centre of controversial e-mail exchanges with the leader of the opposition has been suspended, with the company having launched disciplinary proceedings against her, informed sources said.
However Ms Agius contacted timesofmalta to say she had been fired, not suspended.
The Nationalist Party, through the head of news, Nathaniel Attard, yesterday released a batch of e-mails covering 11 months in which Ms Agius told Dr Muscat on what was going on at her place of work and spoke on political issues.
In his replies Dr Muscat spoke on how she was needed at RTK and at one time also suggested she seek employment at The Times or PBS.
Dr Muscat, speaking in parliament yesterday, called for an investigation, saying the e-mails were acquired through spying or hacking.
See the correspondence as released by the PN on pdf below.
Ms Agius earlier this month sued RTK, claiming that she was politically discriminated when she was not appointed head of news.
See also
Joseph Muscat complains of hacking, demands investigation -
See also blogs by Andrew Borg Cardona and Fr Joe Borg on this website.
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George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 17:27
@neville pace .. this is my second reply since the first one like many others are not published!!!
Why do you keep repeating such lies. The company RTK did not divulge anything. Emails were hacked from an Internet provider which RTK uses and so I am assuming that it was not RTK personnel who did the hacking but by people having access to this IP's mail server. Of course these could be friends of RTK but most of all friends of PN head quarters. As far as I know hacking is against the law!
Furthermore, even if it was as you are saying, that it was RTK, it is certainly against workers rights to peep in their emails even more since GMail was being used and not RTK domain! Would it be fair for you, if your employer would peep in your emails without you knowing? Is this 2011 or are we going tack to the middle ages again!!!
Mr Mark Farrugia
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:03
Mela l-ewwel ingergru u noholqu pandemonju ghax prezentaturi fuq il-pbs qed jiffavorixxu lil PN, imbad ahna nhawdu u namlu bhalom !! Proset ghalik Dr. Muscat !! Fejn huma Gino Cauchi u Jason Azzapordi issa !! Imiskom tisthu !! Kummidjanti !! Tippruvaw titmejlu bil-poplu billi tilabuwa tal-qaddisin !! min jaf hemmx iktar emails bhal dawn ma gurnalisti ohrajn ? min jaf ?
U zgur li tajdu li dawn l-emails insterqu - ax hamrulkom wicckom !! Isthu !!
George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 18:02
Zkuzi ta .. jhawdu ma min? Sa fejn naf jien il-pandemonju li qed issemmi int kien fuq prezentaturi ta PBS u tal-WE. Din il-gurnalista tal-RTK.
X' ghandu x'jaqsam! Jigifieri issa tal-PL anqas jistaw jikommunikaw mal-gurnalisti ohrajn!! Jien rajthom l-emails .. m'hemm xejn li jmur barra mil-loghba politika fihom! .. Nahseb li zzewg nahat jaghmluhom dawn, u zgur wkoll!
George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 10:20
Leaking of information is the name of the game in ALL political parties. It's crystal clear even from this event that this is the norm of BOTH parties. This journalist was giving (volountarily) information to PL and on the other hand someone else handed over email of this info/content to PN. Now this makes me wonder who did the worst thing? The main issue, however is how the information is taken from source to the third party. The journalist was not forced in any way by PL to do this and no law was broken. On the other hand, it is crystal clear the emails were stolen from local Internet Provider domain smtp server which RTK was using and handed over to PN quarters.
Incredible how this issue is being treated so lightly while importance is being given to something which happens all along in political journalism.
neville pace
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:20
No law was broken? Divulging company information, your emploer, to third parties? It is so illegal that it justifies an immediate dismissal at law!
Ivan Visanich
Oct 21st 2011, 20:59
What really baffled me in the e-mail contents is the the way the e-mails were addressed ... '' Hi Joseph '' this and '' Hi Joseph '' that '' :) '' and smile '' :) '' .. The motives of the woman seem clear.I mean if i were to write the prime minister or the leader of the opposition or even my boss at work if we come to that I wouldn''t start with a Hi Lawrence ....
Henry Mifsud
Oct 22nd 2011, 09:40
Hello .............. wake up!
the 21st Century started 11 years ago!
neville pace
Oct 22nd 2011, 13:42
The truth is that the prime minister is know to answer thousands of mails....not in that manner and not for that scope......how childish and unprofessional of joseph muscat. The exchange is more of what one does in a chat room than that of answering mails officially
E. Vassallo
Oct 21st 2011, 19:28
If my memory serves me well, the power station saga started on leaked e-mails. Wasn't that illegal as well? I do not think JM really messed up himself but it is not fitting for a future PM to involve himself in these matters.
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 21st 2011, 15:18
What about the anonymous letters sent round to damage on purpose the chances of a particular contender to the leadership post of the MLP a decade or so ago, or the subject of questionable ethics used to favour one particular candidate a couple of years ago during the election of a brand NEW leader ?
Victor Laiviera
Oct 21st 2011, 17:28
"the subject of questionable ethics used to favour one particular candidate a couple of years ago during the election of a brand NEW leader ?"
I assume you are referring to the Gonzi-Dalli contest?
Joseph Scicluna
Oct 21st 2011, 18:52
@victor laiviera
lino spiteri vs sant
Gonzi-Dalli contest took place ages ago.
The most recent contest was for your brand New laeder.
Go on spin another one!
Victor Laiviera
Oct 22nd 2011, 09:41
@ Joseph Scicluna
So what do you say to people who mention matters which happened 30 or 40 years ago?
George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 10:08
@Joseph Scicluna
as far as I'm aware the contest between J.Dalli and Gonzi is much more recent than that between lino spiteri vs sant
Moreover, the issue here is not sending of emails (anonymous or not). This is stealing of information, hacking which is against the law. PN bloggers here seem to try and disregard this. Who handed over these emails to PN people. These people surely known by Paul Borg Olivier and co ( to say the least)! This is illegal!!
Joseph Scicluna
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:20
@ george azzopardi
If you read my comment I listed the gonzi-dalli in second place.
enough said.
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 22nd 2011, 11:49
@Mr Laiviera,
You assume wrong.
I am referring to the public protests made a couple of years ago, in the media by the contenders of the post for Pl leader against the tactics used by one particular contender to win the post.
George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 14:56
@Joseph Scicluna
you mentioned Gonzi-Dalli contest took place ages ago.
well I just mentioned that lino spiteri vs sant was even more long! Enough said!
.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 21st 2011, 11:10
From the correspondence, it is obvious that Agius was using gmail, not the RTK server.
Therefore, RTK had absolutely no right to access the content of those emails. The most they had a right to do was to object to the use of company time for private emails.
Anyone who accessed and disseminated the emails committed a criminal offence.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 13:29
Please, explain that to those who hacked and published confidential e-mail correspondence during the divorce referendum campaign on the pro-Labour media.
Ms Maria Vella
Oct 21st 2011, 14:34
If she was using her gmail during working hours then it is in company time and most probably connected via the company server/email connection
c p agius
Oct 21st 2011, 18:48
kurzita Frans....when do you see your patients?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 22nd 2011, 09:34
@ c p agius.
My patients do not complain - so why do you bother?. I see! You would like me to keep silent. Sorry! No can do.
Once more into the breach! What is the LP official reaction to the "breaking news" that its leader and prospective prime minister discussed with his "mole" in RTK her prospects of transferring her nefarious spying activities to the PBS and The Times and, as a reward, the tantalising prospect of a ministerial post in some future LP cabinet.
The "hacking" problem is being addressed already: please move on to this serious problem affecting the whole electorate, not just the LP, but also the future governance of Malta under such an LP cabinet. That problem should engage your attention much more than my private medical practice.
George Azzopardi
Oct 22nd 2011, 10:32
@Francis Saliba
naahhh .. he's interested in going in Politics .. pity Gonzi has not heard of your blogs yet
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 09:55
I think that over the past two days newspapers and other news media outside the Mile End spectrum must have been having a good hard look at their newsrooms; due diligence, anyone.
How about the cinemas offering cut-price tickets to these people to view “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy ” and Mole (No, not “Wind in the Willows !)
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 09:38
So many experts and much more pseudo experts have posting about hacking or not hacking a company server. The end result may be much more simple: Sabrina Agius left her computer unattended but still logged in, someone (Who, don't ask me !) had a peek at her email, found the Joseph Muscat thread and printed it for future use and reference. How many of us when leaving our desks either for a few minutes or for longer when attending meetings etc, log off our desk computer ? Forewarned is forearmed !
Joseph Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 09:38
tafu li jezisti firewall? taf li illum tista tikkontrolla x sites jaraw il haddiema tieghek? Jiena min ihaddimni jtini access tal internet pero jaghlaqli Facebook, sports, streaming, shopping etc etc.
Ma nafx ghala dan l itkazar kollu ghax baghtet l emails min fuq personal account mix xoghol. Nahseb kollha ghax xoghol tuzawh il PC? nahsebqatt ma rajtu emails u baghttu emails mix xoghol li ma humiex work related! nahseb qatt ma ircevejtu jew baghttu xi joke sahansitra mil email server tax xoghol u waqt il hin tax xoghol. nahseb hadd qatt ma prova jibghat xi CV biex jahdem xi post iehor min fuq il PC tax xoghol! Nahseb hadd qatt waqt il hin tax xoghol ma qad jilghab solitaire! u Halluna!
Ticcekja it traffiku tal internet huwa haga , tisraq emails personali huwa haga ohra!
L employer tieghi ghandu dritt jicekjani u jara x sites nsegwi, ghandu dritt ukoll jara bil mohbi emails li nibghat jiena mix xoghol ghax meta gejt impjegat qaluli u iffirmajt li naccetta. PERO HADD ma ghandu dritt jara emails personali tieghi! Isimhom maghhom PERSONALI!!!
Wara kollox jiena qrajt l emails u fl opinjoni tieghi ma hemm xejn hazin hlief korisponenza bejn tnejn min nies. Anzi fl opinjoni tieghi l emails ma juru xejn hlief balla laqizmu min Ms Agius biex tithabbeb ma JM u hafna mir risposti tieghu kienu a single sentence.
Anzi personalment hemm risposti li ta JM bhal "ahna veru maqghudin u mhux nidhru li maqghudin" li jqawwuli qalbi! jew rigward l "idea" li baghtet re:programmi fuq one...u ir-risposta ta JM kienet li ghal hemm qed jipprova jimxi nahseb risposta wkoll li tqawwili qalbi.
Billi staqsietu jekk taqplikax ghal job partikolari u qalli OK APPLIKA (hadd qatt ma talab parir f hajtu?) ma nahsibx li b xi moghod prova jippostja xi gurnalist il PBS jew TIMES! Sa fejn naf jiena JM ma jaghzilx hu min jahdem ma dawn il gurnali / tv
Ahna poplu li nhobbu nparlaw u nlabalbu u ZGUR li kulhadd xi darba jew ohra sema xi haga ix xoghol u stqarrha ma xi hadd iehor.
Barra min hekk, ta min wiehed jistaqsi kif mil RTK l emails waslu Net news ghax ghalija dik hija oxxenita hafna akbar. Kieku l RTK kien stazzjon politiku kont nifhima, pero ma nafx x tip offs setghet taghti politikament haddiema ta RADJU TAL KNISJA lill Partit politiku.............sakhemm...........
joseph briffa
Oct 21st 2011, 10:26
Mela la ma hemm xejn fihom il mails ghalfejn Joseph Muscat qed jghid li gew hacked.
Joseph Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 16:20
Mela int l emails li tibghat personali tridhom ikunu publikati fuq it tv? x ragunametn hu? Jekk xi hadd gie in pussess ta xi haga personali ta haddiehor illegalment ovvja li min ikun effetwat jitlob investigazzjoni. Bhal ma hakkjaw l emails jistaw jihhekjaw miljun oggett iehor.
Jiena kieku xi hadd jigi b emails tieghi minghajr ma nkun tajthomlu jiena ovvja li nitlob spjegazzjoni nahseb hux?
Ftit snin ilu garali kaz simili meta persuna presentatni b emails li kienu jikkoncernaw lili u li kienu intbghatu min warrajha jakkuzawni fuq affarijiet serji. LEGALMENT kienu jiswew biss daqs it toilet paper!
Dan ghandu jurik kemm huwa leggitimu dak li sar.
Jiena nerga nghid li FL OPINJONI TIEGHI (kulhadd gahndu dritt jahseb li jrid) ma rajt xejn hazin fijhom dawn l emails u qrajthom ghal darba darbtejn biex nipprova narha x seta kien hemm hazin....still anki kieku kien hemm il hazin xorta ma jaghtix lok li tinkiser l ligi.
Sa issa hafna tpatpit kullhadd jghid x misthija imma hadd ghadu ma hareg b argument validu ghala dawn l emails huam tal misthija!
E. Buhagiar
Oct 21st 2011, 00:36
Just biex inkunu cari ... sa fejn naf Jien il-gmail mhux tal-RTK hux?! Ghax jekk dak li Jkun jiftah il-Pdf file tal-emails inkwistjoni jista' jivverifika li dawn intbaghtu mill-gmail privat ta' Sabrina u mhux Minn dak tax-xoghol. Issa jekk is-sur MD ghandu XI provi li ntbaghtu mill-Internet tax-xoghol taghha... forsi ghandu XI access specjali ghall-informazzjoni... Jien mhux se mmerih hux :-) u tinsewx li informazzjoni miksuba b'Dan il-mod mhux li ghandha kredibilita assoluta u daqstant iehor ikollu kredibilita min jikkwota informazzjoni bhal din bhala fatt!!! Fl-ahhar nett jekk naccettaw il-hacking mela d-Data Protection Act nistghu ndahhluha.... fil-kexxun
David Mizzi
Oct 21st 2011, 00:34
Ghandu ragun J. Muscat li hawn il-hmieg f' dal pajjiz ghaddej.... la l-RTK u lanqas hadd ma kellu ebda dritt jitkixxef informazzjoni kunfidenzjali ... anki jekk ghaddejja mill-infrastruttura taghhom... lanqas il-kompjuter li tuza hi... ghax allavolja mhux personalment taghha... imma l-informazzjoni li hemm fuqu hi personalment taghha... il-qorti Ewropea xi snin ilu tat gudizzju f' kaz simili bhal dan.... u nqatghat favur l-impjegat !
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 23:43
Liema cuc Malti lest biex izomm impjegat/impjegata mieghu meta jittendi li l'imsemmi impjegat/impjegata qed tahdem kontra l interessi tieghu u tal kumpanija li jmexxi?
Alfred Cassar
Oct 20th 2011, 23:23
Hi Dear Joseph, ghamilni Ministru please!
Alex Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 21:58
With Fr. Joe Borg's permission, a quotation from his blog:
Last April, during the divorce referendum campaign, the media of the Partit Laburista – One Radio and One TV - and its fellow travelers – It-Torca and Malta Today – published e-mails which were either hacked or procure from the computers or offices of a number of ordinary citizens, myself included. The e-mails concerned discussions about the theme song which could be used by the No to Divorce Movement and also possible points that could be raised during a meeting with parish priests on the subject.
Dr Muscat is the leader of the party which is the owner of One Radio and One TV. The media owned by Dr Muscat as leader of the PL, feasted on these e-mails and their content. Those e-mails were published by people who enjoy the full confidence and trust of Dr Muscat.
Dr Muscat, do you think that even the hacking or illegal procurement of e-mails from members of the anti-divorce front was a sign of the erosion of democracy?
E. Buhagiar
Oct 20th 2011, 20:00
"F'darek bla biza" .... l-importanti li ma tuzax it-telefown Jew l-Internet !!!
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 20th 2011, 20:57
Le! L-importanti hu li ma tkunx stupida u tuzax il-compjuter ta' min jimpjegak biex taghmillu l-hsara u tgemgimx meta tinqabad! Ghid "mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa".
George Azzopardi
Oct 20th 2011, 21:19
@Francis Saliba M.D.
jigifiri ghalik li tuza emails privati huwa ghar milli taghmel hacking ta email servers!! Liema hija l-ghar haga min dawn? Eja ha nara mortx l-universita ghal xejn int?
G.Azzopardi C.M. (Cittadin Malti)
pat muscat
Oct 20th 2011, 21:32
@Dr Saliba. Mela RTK huma is-CIA jew M15? And why is it ok for the boss of RTK to communicate with PN's media but not for ordinary employees to communicate with the Leader of the Opposition? Is RTK the hidden hand of PN jaqaw?
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 20th 2011, 23:42
@ George Azzopardi
No dear Mr Azzopardi. In my view it it is not some cave (ghar) to use a computer whether it belongs or to somebody else. It is stupid to send damning incriminating e-mails that can be legally accessed and that expose your disloyalty and the abusive use of your employer's computer network. Your political leader won't thank you for that stupidity and much less would he reward you with a cabinet post.
MALCOLM SEYCHELL
Oct 20th 2011, 19:45
X nistennew mill knisja... Money Money Money is their priority. X jitmellhu mill bniedem
Francis Coquelin
Oct 21st 2011, 00:31
Iddahhaqx nies bik.
Andrew Cauchi
Oct 20th 2011, 19:35
She was clearly 'flirting' with him, he wasn't having any of it.
Carmel camilleri
Oct 20th 2011, 19:09
@J Borg In the say way those emails ended in labour media during the referendum campaign. Pls read FR. Joe Blog in the issue. You will learn a lot. It is ok when it is in labour's favour but everything is wrong once things go against it.
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 18:50
So now we have:
Net Tv and Net Tv2(PBS)
and
Radio 101 and Radio 101 2 (RTK)
Michael Seychell
Oct 20th 2011, 18:16
Whether or not there was hacking in this case, once the emails were made public, Dr. J Muscat - or as I prefer to address him Mr. The End Justifies The Means - must shoulder responsibility on the fact that he condones abuse by an employee against her employer and in this case also against the listeners of RTK.
, and the public in general.
This is a case where 'Truth Prevails' more so when during this week Gino Cauchi was used by the Party and his Leader, to create a storm on Lou Bondi and Joe Azzopardi when today it has been proven that the P.L. Leader is in collusion with a journalist to gain points for his Party.
This incidence also confirms how absurd and pathetic was Dr. Muscat when he 'stole and copied' Dr. Ediie Fenech Adami's slogan Truth Prevails - since in his case He does not even know the meaning of truth!
Finally I hope that the Speaker of the House will request the Police to investigate whether or not this is an issue of hacking, more so since Dr. Muscat was using the Labour Party’s email.
Michael Seychell
Tal-Pieta
A. Mizzi
Oct 20th 2011, 19:31
The End Justifies The Means now RTK have the Head of their Media they always wanted direct from Net News, from the Dar Centrali... most likely even blessed by Fr. Joe Borg! Veru Flimkien issa qedin!
Michael Grech
Oct 20th 2011, 19:51
So the phrase 'Truth prevails' belongs to Edward? I used to associate it to Jan Huss; a 14th/15th Czech precursor of the Protestant refermation. Everdenty, he also 'stole and copied' it from Fenech Adami
George Azzopardi
Oct 20th 2011, 20:34
Mr.Seychell, it seems to think that these tacticsail sent by PB are not also made by PN. I wonder if you remember the email sent by PN secrartary to Jason Micallef by mistake. The difference here is however that that email was sent by mistake and was received by PL Officers. Here the email server was hacked to get the information required!! I wonder who needs to resign here!!!
John J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 17:47
Interesting insights in these emails into how Muscat thinks and operates. I'm particularly facinated that Sabrina Agius apparently had such direct access to Muscat. At times he literally responds within minutes of getting her email. He was clearly at pains to keep his mole within RTK.
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 17:59
And what about the new PN mole at RTK?
MC Attard
Oct 20th 2011, 20:32
Do you have any proof about what you called a PN mole? If so then you are allowed to make such allegations!. As far as i'm concerned when a post is issued everyone can apply, without no reserve just like Ms Agius was given the green flag to apply for posts ;)
P Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 17:32
I have read the emails and there is no reason for Dr. J. Muscat to be bothered about their content. If I were JM I would come out fighting making political capital out of the fact of how low the PN and its stooges are prepared to go to score political points and tarnish his image at a time when they are with their backs against the wall. None of JM's replies to the journalist involves him in any underhand dealings. As for the journalist she now has to pay the price for being so reckless and immature in writing the way she did. Finally, perhaps the PN should be challenged to publish the email exchanges between the head of news at PBS and Castille or Pieta' for the last six months.
Francis Coquelin
Oct 20th 2011, 18:09
If you mean that Muscat has done nothing that the PN would do or are doing, you are no doubt correct. If you feel that the leader of the MLP should be casually gossipping with Sabrina Agius (who was clearly fishing for a job with One Media) then I disagree. That kind of dirty work should be left to lower-ranking party officials not to a future PM.
Ivan Delia
Oct 20th 2011, 17:19
ghedt jigi zmien fejn dawn il-hnizrijiet li qedt issiru igelhom jidispjacijhom ghal ghomorhom !!
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 17:10
kif tista tkun Nisrani u "tifrah" bil-hsara ta' hadd iehor? gejja min fejn gejja!!
hawn Malta skoss oqbra mbajda hawn as politics comes before religion!!
R Saliba
Oct 20th 2011, 18:08
x ghanda x taqsam ir religjon? Mela ha nghidlek x missna naghmlu. Issa kulhadd jaghmel gimgha ma jersaqx lejn ix xoghol u nippretendu li l imghallmin ihallsuna ghax insara u jahfrulna. U hallina!
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 18:23
forsi mhux radju "religjuz" ta s-sospensjoni mr saliba?
Aaron Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 17:00
Imbasta Joe irid jikritika lil Peppi u lil Lou. Ara vera x'hin nibda nahseb li lahaq isfel nett dan il-partit jaghmlu balbuljata gdida!
Paul Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 17:36
Smajta dik id-diska??? The only way is up???Hekk il-Partit tal PL UP UP UPUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP all the way to the next general election.
VIVA JOSEPH U IL PARTIT TAL PL U VIVA IL-PRIMINISTRU JOSEPH MUSCAT.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 16:57
So using your employers' server in your employers' time to pass sensitive company information (whether through your gmail account or not is immaterial as you are using company server) to a leader of a political party while barefacedly receiving your company salary at the end of the month as if nothing is happening is ok with the apologists posting below and then complaining about being bypassed for promotion . Mela veru morna il - bahar dwar etika it-tnejn li huma !
"Email for Dummies" and "Internet for Idiots" should be useful Xmas presents this year !
R Saliba
Oct 20th 2011, 16:50
Sabrina does not deserve to be suspended. She deserves to be fired. I wish her good luck in trying to find another job. I wouldn't touch her with a bargepole.
Victor Calleja
Oct 20th 2011, 16:59
Int nisrani jew?
Giovann Demartino
Oct 20th 2011, 17:11
She should be sued!
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 17:43
@ Demartino
How come the emails ended up in the hands of Medialink? Is this a coincidence? Or maybe there was a helping hand?
R Saliba
Oct 20th 2011, 18:06
Victor Calleja, Obviously you do not run a company. But how would you feel if a workmate of yours was backstabbing you? This has nothing to do with 'insara'. If it did, she wouldn't do what she did to her employers/co-workers in the first place.
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 18:47
Who is going to trust this person in his/her employment??
Sabrina, don't you know that:- "Honesty is the best policy"???
You ruined your career.
Do you think that the management of Super One will trust you even though you did your utmost to please them? Because what you did to Super One, you might do it other day to another radio broadcaster.
Mario Camilleri
Oct 21st 2011, 00:13
Hey guys what happened to FREEDOM of SPEECH, FREEDOM of EXPRESSION and DEMOCRACY? Eddies' words!!
What about the DATA PROTECTION ACT? Is this an act meant to be broken by the PN?
Philip Hili
Oct 21st 2011, 12:52
@ Mario Camilleri
"Hey guys what happened to FREEDOM of SPEECH, FREEDOM of EXPRESSION and DEMOCRACY?"
Oh! yes Mario, you are right !!!!! You should tell the doctors, the lawyers, and other professional people to divulge any information they have about their clients in the name of "FREEDOM of SPEECH, FREEDOM of EXPRESSION and DEMOCRACY"!!!
Victor Baldacchino
Oct 20th 2011, 16:44
Din ma ghandux problemi biex johroga ghall ellezzjoni.Ministru tal propoganda tkun.
John Clease
Oct 20th 2011, 16:44
Camorra sħiħa - PN/Knisja!
Ms Maria Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 17:02
Camorra shiha?
just because you don't agree with their ideology it doesn't mean that whatever they do is wrong. Ms. Agius did not act professionally and she deserves to be fired
pat muscat
Oct 20th 2011, 17:44
RTK is full of PN activists and these never correspond with their masters? Sometimes RTK broadcast the news word for word as the PN's spokesman. This is not objective news; its a travesty of fairness and impartiality and people have protested more than once against such misdemeanors!
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 18:51
@pat muscat
Pat, ma don't you think that you are making a fool of yourself when we are discussing a clear episode which runs contrary to what you have written?
Alex Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 21:53
Int mhux suppost qed timmaniggja il Fawlty Towers? Jew issa mort il Marsa timmaniggja il Fawlty Towers ta JM?
Joseph Calleja
Oct 20th 2011, 16:37
If you really want to keep personal emails secret there is only one way to do that, and that is to stop including anything personal in your emails, far fetched, not at all. There are smart people, including big brother, the government, who tap the airwaves and can trace any form of messages. Privacy is a thing of the past and the only way to keep something secret is not to let the right hand tell what the left hand is doing, and even that is no guarantee.
J.C. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 16:25
Din xabla taqta miz-zewg nahat.
Issa, Joseph Muscat irid jammetti li l-emails vera kitibhom hu, biex ikompli bil-process tal-investigazzjoni.
Imbaghad naraw il-konsegwenzi kollha, fuq iz-zewg nahat.
Alfred Fenech
Oct 20th 2011, 16:24
When shall we see a separation or divorce between CHURCH and PN. After the Church Divorce fiasco
will there be a PN fiasco.........
B Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 16:21
I cannot judge anyone, for sure will not judge someone after being shown half the facts as most parts of these emails are hidden. However I cannot see nothing wrong in Joseph Muscat replies, it seems that the Nationalist Party and its head of news yesterday had nothing else to boost their sainthood path...For sure Sabrina will get my vote
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 20th 2011, 16:19
@ Mario Grima.
Keep religion and the Church out of this sordid affair. Christ preached forgiveness for innumerable times times but only for those who sought forgiveness. There is no sign of remorse as yet, only the cheeky and brash demand for a witch hunt to discover the whistleblower. There is no trace of an offer to resign for such a grave and clamourous error of judgment!
This is a shameful proven case of a prospective prime minister being caught out personally planting and "minding" a disloyal journalist mole planted in unsuspecting media and discussing with her the possible reward of a tantalising prospect of a ministerial cabinet post (the youngest ever!) if the electorate is forgiving and mad enough to elect an LP government at the next election.
Ralph Agius Fernandez
Oct 20th 2011, 16:17
Hemm min qed isostni f'dan il-blog li l-knisja ghandha tahfer u turi hniena ma din l-impjegata li marret tghid kollox lil kap politiku taghha. Issa minn mindu 'l hawn l-RTK sar stazzjon tal-karita? Daqshekk hi haga hazina li trid min jaghmel programm, jaghmlu sew u jidher professjonali f'xoghlu halli n-nies issegwik u mhux tidhaq bik. Dawn ghalhekk gew impjegati wara kollox. Issa li xi hadd 'jinsa jmur ghax-xoghol' jew li naqas milli jipprezenta l-ahbarijiet nahseb li haga gravi mhux ftit. Nahseb ukoll li kull min qed jippunta subghajh lejn il-knisja jrid biss jnaqqas l-effett tac-cuccati kbar li ntqalu bejn dawn iz-zewg individwi.
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 17:17
absolutely wrong mr agius fernandez
the church is there to set an example!!
j brincat
Oct 20th 2011, 16:11
Who REALLY runs RTK????
After the Church's divorce referendum fiasco, now this!
Is there any discrete line, at all that separates the Church and the PN?
(jb)
j brincat
Oct 20th 2011, 16:08
@Mark Galea
"I ask Joseph Muscat to RESIGN!
Ha ha - he would ignore me, though, and stay there ..."
Seems you like playing the comedian! Ha, Ha, my belly is bursting at the seams with laughter.
At least this time round you did not mention any WAND which you seem to like so much.
LOL!!!!
(jb)
Tanya Briffa
Oct 20th 2011, 16:05
Dan kollu paroli fil-vojt jahasra! Issa kien tort ta' Cikku jew ta' Peppu - dawn politikanti fl-ahhar mill-ahhar, ma tistenniex ahjar minghandhom!
Jien aktar niddejjaq li joqghodu jaljenawna b'dawn il-hmerijiet minflok jghidu xi haga konkreta - kif se ntejbu l-ambjent u noholqu energija nadifa, kif se ntaffu l-gholi tal-hajja, kif se niggieldu r-ricessjoni li donna ma tridx tbatti minn fuq wicc id-dinja - qatt ma tisma xi haga kostruttiva minghandhom, dejjem b'dan it-tghajjir u vujtagni bhat-tfal zghar!
U fuq l-email - nahseb li ghadna daqsxejn fidili nahsbu li emails huma adegwati ghal korrispondenza kunfidenzjali - j'Alla din tkun tghalima ghal kulhadd.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 20th 2011, 15:55
The hacking investigation is not a substitute for the demand for the resignation of the leader of a political party so stupid as to involve himself personally in the planting and "minding" a disloyal journalist mole in the RTK and discussing the future reward of a ministerial cabinet post in the event of an LP victory in the next general election.
The usual LP hounds will not now be barking and complaining about our deficient culture of resignation whenever so demanded by the opposition or about loyalty to whomesoever loyalty is due!
John Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 15:50
The letting off of the employee based only on the content of these emails was the correct thing to do since the content including data which should not be shared publicly.
but... these emails were obtained in an illegal manner since these were taken from Ms Sabrina's personal gmail account (since her email address is on the header of the printed material) which is not the property of RTK. If she was using any RTK property then it would have meant a fair dismissal but this was not the case.
According to previous cases in the EU court, employees have the right to communicate personally and freely if this does not affect their work performance.but the company (or any one else) does not have the right to confiscate or view personal material even if the journalist left gmail access open on her work computer.
Thus the proof of her wrongdoing (found in the emails) cannot be used to dismiss her from the workplace.
John J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 15:49
I'm not surprised that either political parties tries its best to influence the media. What surprises is that Muscat gets personally involved in these sort of tricks. You would think that a cleverer party leader would leave this to others so that he can get on with more important stuff - such as planning on how to govern the country in less than two years.
Mario Grima
Oct 20th 2011, 15:47
And this is supposed to be the official Church Radio who should set the example and follow Christ's teachings. Is this how the Church station practises forgiveness, tolerance, understanding and above all not dancing to the PN's music. No wonder that the Maltese Church has lost its soul and its credibility, especially where it concerns the doings of some of its own flock.
Mr Stephen Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 16:03
This move by RTK or ir-radju tal-KNISJA will further more dampen the image of the Church in Malta. No wonder many people voted yes for divorce in the divorce referendum. Is this how the church proposes to reach to the general public. Come on.
Aaron Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 18:29
What does this have to do with the fact that a supposedly independent journalist was infact sending sensitive information of the same station that pays her, to a thrid party without its knowledge. Qed nimmagina x'tghid li kieku nghidu ahna Charlon Gouder jinqabad jaghti l-informazzjoni lil tan-Net. Again, the likes of you are the least people who can talk about "forgiveness, tolerance, understanding"... Austin Gatt, Peppi Azzopardi, Lou Bondi... need I go on? Iddahhaqniex, jew qed nilabughha tal-qaddisin issa, ghax daret ir-rota? Sabrina Agius not only deserved to be fired for her greed and irresponsibility but hopefully she'll get sued, u bil-wicc tost l'ghandha fethet kawza li qed tigi iddiskriminata... Le Sabrina, mhux diskriminizajoni, qed naraw kemm int inkompetenti u kemm ghamlu sew li ma ghazlukx, issa mur ahdem mal-One.
J Busuttil
Oct 20th 2011, 15:47
Th PL bloggers are really working overtime but say what you say this is the biggest blunder by Joseph FULL STOP projecting himself as the future prime minister of Malta. God help us.
Mario Grima
Oct 20th 2011, 15:59
Can I please suggest that you take off your blue blinkers?
I guess you have been living on the moon during the past 3 years, cause you have missed quite a few PN scandals in the land of Mickey Mouse governed by crooks?
Joseph Scicluna
Oct 20th 2011, 15:45
@ stephen borg
Let's hope that your JM galleriji (if ever he becomes prime minister) will not face a three year world wide crisis as Dr. Gonzi did.
Mario Camilleri
Oct 20th 2011, 15:31
Sinjuri li qed tipprovaw iddawruha fuq il-PL u Joseph, il-fatti huma li dawn il-ħniżrijiet qed isiru taħt aktar ħlief il-PN, IL-PARTIT NAZZJONALISTA, dak li tant jiftaħar bid-DEMOKRAZIJA u bil-LIBERTA tal-ESPRESSJONI u l-LIBERTA tal-KELMA. U din mhux l-ewwel waħda!!
Joseph E Briffa
Oct 20th 2011, 17:32
@ Mario Camilleri...I'm afraid that in typical labourite fashion you are mixing things up. In the first place JM should know - though still young he is a product of the internet age - that anything one writes including emails and comments can be viewed by the whole world; there is simply no guarantee of confidentiality on the internet. Secondly, JM should therefore have resorted to a tete-a-tete in his efforts to plant moles in what he himself describes as independent stations. Even it-Torca, l-Orizzont, Kulhadd and Il-lum profess to be independent newspapers. They would be terribly miffed off if someone called them otherwise but anybody with a modicum of sense can detect their pro-Labour stance Having said that, JM should have realised that if their correspondence fell into the wrong hands, Sabrina would have been the worse for it. as she is an employee. Any employer was bound to take exception to her behaviour the more so if she was using one of her employer's PCs. which would be open to her employer's scrutiny. We have all read about cases where employees were caught watching porn websites on their office PC and were sacked. Surely the employees concerned did not report themselves to the management; so management has the ways and means of accessing their employees' hard disc. This is standard practice throughtout the democratic world and every PC user should be aware of. it. So your comment about democracy and freedom of expression and the Partit Nazjonalista doesn't make any sense. Freedom of expression doesn't entitle anybody to say or write whatever they like without bearing the consequences.The fact that the correspondence involved none other than the Leader of Opposition must have made interesting reading to anybody. It was a real gaffe on the part of JM to have involved himself in this matter in the first place and a bigger mistake to have done it the way he did. It's hardly the behaviour one expects from a man in his position especially from someone who is expecting the electorate to thrust him with the running of a country. As he is very fond of expecting any minister who commits a mistake to resign, he should practise what he preaches and do the honourable thing.
Steve Pace
Oct 20th 2011, 15:29
"The Nationalist Party, through the head of news, Nathaniel Attard, yesterday released a batch of e-mails covering 11 months in which Ms Agius told Dr Muscat on what was going on at her place of work and spoke on political issues.
Interesting how the PN Head of news got hold of emails of an RTK employee , who by the way was not using a work email server as suggested in a comment below !
D Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 15:27
Ms. Agius is at fault for using company euipment for personal use
She would also be at fault for using same during time that she was being paid for - but not if it extended beyond such time.
The company can read through any emails exchange on the company email address
The company shouldmnot however read through emails sent / received from / by personal email accounts - even if these passed through the company's server.
Less even can the company disclose directly or indirectly the contents of such emails to third parties.
As for the usual PNPL ping pong about this whole story - these two bloated parties strive to control our lives and serve only their own party's (read the persons involved) interests only.
If Joseph Muscat want to influence any journalist - it is the pigeon of the parties concerned.
I am however more concerned on who is appointing and 'influencing' those who are paid out of public coffers!
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 20th 2011, 16:09
Nothing to add. Perfect explanation. Next election I will make a better use of my vote... create an album collection!
Richard Caruana
Oct 20th 2011, 15:20
Seems some of those commenting here haven't read the correspondence which is attached below the article above. Clear that these emails come from Ms Agius' computer and there's not even the slightest indication of JM's computer being hacked.
In the remote possibility that it's JM's computer, then he must check with whoever is managing his personal site, as Ms Agius' emails are all addressed to josephmuscat.com. That's definitely a private portal, nothing to do with MITTs or Government in any way.
Sorry JM, your credibility is down to ZERO!
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 20th 2011, 16:23
Mr Caruana - read the comment by D Borg and you'll understand. Agius was using her personal email not the work email and reading that is simply illegal
MD Fenech
Oct 20th 2011, 15:13
Kemm sirna tajjeb f'dal-pajjiz.
Fejnha d-data protection Act?
Kienet qed taghmel xi haga hazina billi kitbet lil Dr Muscat u qaltlu bil-problemi taghha? Minn dan l-artiklu Dr Muscat pprova jghinha; x'fiha hazin li tghin persuna?
U din hi l-hniena li juru l-Administration tar-Radju tal-(Knisja)Kulhadd? Ikkeccuha u mbaghad jinvestigaw?
U min suppost jaqbez ghal-gurnalisti jibqa' sieket? Skiet li jtarrax!
Peter Bonnici
Oct 20th 2011, 15:39
Int qrajthom l-emails, jew ma tafx taqra? Fejn ried jghinha lil Ms Agius? Muscat ried juzaha u mhux jghinha.
Mr Joseph Apap
Oct 20th 2011, 15:51
MD Fenech
If Ms. Agius was sending her emails from RTK or from a network there is always the possibility the Administrator of of that particualr network who have the rights over all and overrides all passwords.
THis is an eye opener to those who are employed in offices wheter with the Government or private to be careful what to write in their emails.
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 16:13
Peter no they didn't because they reckon they would be infringing the data protection act!
But they would if they posted on Facebook - ghax hemmhekk ma jarhom hadt.
Mark Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 15:05
I ask Joseph Muscat to RESIGN!
Ha ha - he would ignore me, though, and stay there ...
Mario Grima
Oct 20th 2011, 15:41
Resign for what may I ask? How can people such as you be stupid enough to make such a suggestion when first and foremost Dr. Muscat did nothing illegal. Secondly, have you forgotten the BWSC scandal, the free jet ride and tickets obtained by Tonio Fenech, the bus ticketing machine saga, the Mistra scandal, .........need I mention more to make you come to your senses before you continue to utter rubbish.
R Saliba
Oct 20th 2011, 16:47
Mario, your beloved leader is the same as the PN than
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 15:01
Employers have every right to check traffic content through their internal server, which is company property, done on company time– otherwise you get people sending private emails,chatting, Facebook, Premier League sites, newspaper sites, blogs or, if you are an idiot and fed up with your job or career, porn.
Thus time wasting web-surfing on company time is drastically reduced.
An enterprising bookseller should order the relevant titles (Internet, Email, etc) of the For Dummies series books asap as they are sorely needed in some quarters.
D Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 16:06
not if one is using his/her personal email address!
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 16:35
D . Borg : So using your employers' server in your employers' time to pass sensitive company information (whether through your gmail account or not is immaterial as you are using company server) to a leader of a political party while barefacedly receiving your company salary at the end of the month as if nothing is happening is ok with you ; mela veru morna il - bahar dwar etika it-tnejn li huma !
D Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 17:07
Mr. farrugia
you should be able to differentiate between:
to make inappropriate use of compnay equipment and salaried time (contract of service breached)
VS
having personal information viewed by third parties - even if this happens and is recorded at work (data protection breached)
Whilst the company has every right to take action against the employee for inappropriate use / time wasted - including by evaluating the traffic from/to personal email address -
it however CANNOT open up and read such emails!
trust this is now clear :)
j brincat
Oct 20th 2011, 14:56
@Joe Vella
Quote: "The e-mails that have been published were send from Sabrina Agius employer server and using her employer e-mail account"
AND from where did you get this information???
Do you know more than others? If in the affirmative HOW?
(jb)
r buttigieg
Oct 20th 2011, 14:54
hey she's cute...and knows the art of espionage let's get her onboard the party band wagon for the commin' election.
Joseph Calleja
Oct 20th 2011, 14:47
Why the big fuss...This is how politics work, and if you don't believe it, read the comments below. Dirty politics? Yes and how. This is the tip of the iceberg, there is another year and a half to go, so nothing surprises me. This is good because a lot of the dirty laundry is aired out in the open. For example, Air Malta deficiencies and Tonio Fenech, Arriva, Transport Malta and Austin Gatt, Nikki Dimech, the uprising by the Dr Debono, and so on and so forth. But everybody seemed to have forgotten about the Honoraria raise and the 500 euro a week raise which the politicians got and we also forgot the measly 1.16 euro COLA raise to the public and we are listening to the courts asking for a raise. So be assured that there is more to come until election time and while new things evolve we tend to forget the past and that is how life goes on and on. Nothing should come as a big surprise. Politics tend to bring out the worst in people.
Mr Joseph Apap
Oct 20th 2011, 16:00
Hope nothing as bad as what is happening to Greece happens here in Malta
j brincat
Oct 20th 2011, 14:44
As the election gets closer we will see more of these dirty tricks.
Remember what JPO & Mr John Dalli said very recently.
(jb)
Peter Bonnici
Oct 20th 2011, 15:40
John who?
j brincat
Oct 20th 2011, 14:42
Quote:"The Nationalist Party, through the head of news, Nathaniel Attard, yesterday released a batch of e-mails covering 11 months2
From where did the PN get these e-mails?
(jb)
I. Cilia
Oct 20th 2011, 14:47
I guess from the same place that PL got the BWSC emails...
must be some secret organisations that hacks out email accounts and passes them on to the highest bidder...
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 14:52
Hacking - a criminal offence.
Mark Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 15:02
Who knows? Maybe they did a JPO. The interesting thing is that Joseph Magic Muscat has been caught doing what he accuses others of doing - i.e. organising a network of spies.
Says a lot about the personality of (possibly) Malta's next PM, eh?
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 15:09
Read the article and you will know how they go them... downloaded from Joseph Muscat website ...
Francis Coquelin
Oct 20th 2011, 14:41
The supreme irony is that Joseph Muscat complains that he has been spied on while he was managing his own little network of media spies. Oh well. Live and learn Joseph.
Mr Stephen Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 14:49
From who does Joseph Muscat need to learn. From good old Gonzi maybe. Let us only hope that he will not teach him how to run a country because if Labour wins the next election we do not want to see the style Gonzi runs or messes with this country any more.
Francis Coquelin
Oct 20th 2011, 15:09
I was thinking Muscat might learn a thing or two from his expensively-paid ex-PN advisor or maybe even from those wise men from the 1970s and 80s who have made such a spectacular comeback since Muscat became leader.
Mr Stephen Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 15:30
When I read articles like the one above I think that the country is re-living those times. A highly biased media where who dares to criticize or does not agree with the current regime is politely attacked physiologically in all kind of ways. It is time for the Nationalist party to loose the next election because as was the case with the Labour Party back in the seventies and eighths where Malta had been governed by the same party for a long time and when this happens the party in government would tend to twist all the democratic and civil rules in order to cling to power. Please learn to distinguish right from wrong and lately the party in government is acting in a questioning unethical way.
Carmelo Azzopardi
Oct 20th 2011, 14:38
Wow that is e very efficient way how to throw your career down the drain and flush it. She will never be trusted by any of the political parties and news rooms. Very well done dear.
Ramon Casha
Oct 20th 2011, 14:29
So first she is passed over for a promotion (justifiably or not) which is given to a Net News journalist, then she starts court proceedings and by sheer coincidence, her private communication gets published by Net News which leads to her outright dismissal.
Nazzareno Cortis
Oct 20th 2011, 15:46
Nazi Style!!!!!!!!??????
Albert Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 14:25
Yet again, comunication on internet has cost job of the second journalist in as many weeks. What I cannot fathom is how come these intelligent people carry out such comunication by email...i mean everyone around the age of Year One should know that anything done on the internet is actually a public act. Why wont people just call each other to comunicate, or meet, or something. But NOT emails. You NEVER comunicate this way using emails. Maybe the pre-email generation have an advantage here.
Francis Coquelin
Oct 20th 2011, 14:42
Clearly they are not all that intelligent.
John Said
Oct 20th 2011, 14:19
From the printed version of these mails available at the end of the article one can see clearly that most of them are sent during the day, during which times I assume that the Mrs. Agius was at work. If so she must have used the internet connection supplied at her work place and most probably a pc belonging to her employer, and this would mean that there was no spying but just monitoring from her employee, which he has all the right to do.
Pat Hobson
Oct 20th 2011, 14:33
@John Said. And what does her employer do? Pass the emails to the PN! That's just justice? or What? Don't try to justify the unjustifiable!
r buttigieg
Oct 20th 2011, 14:12
this country is incredible ....we are so blinded with red or blue blinkers that we try to justify what they do, we never learn at our peril. As I see it BOTH parties have a great deal of explaining to do.
- how did the PN media get the info? If it was through hacking it's a threat to democracy.
-how come an RTK journalist was secretly passing info to a particular party ? Her employers were right to dismiss her
It seems our both big parties piovra has infiltrated every aspect of our lives.
Let's grow up a bit. Seeing some blinkered comments makes you wanna vomit. Both parties need to do some explaining....and fast. But I am sure most people will excuse them, according to which clan you belong.
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Oct 20th 2011, 13:54
A New Order has to emerge from this world of intrigue and corruption: the Power has to resort to the People who will determine in strict trans parency and accountability the appointments to be made IN ALL FIELDS from the President to the Parker.
Let us all work for this change.
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 18:20
@DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Lel, xrobt xi xarba mbid qabel harbixt dan il-kummet??
M Busuttil
Oct 20th 2011, 13:50
Jista jaghmel programm Peppi l-Coach nahseb aktar ta attwalita minn programm fuq it-tifla ta Giga !!
Henry S. Pace
Oct 20th 2011, 13:46
No matter what one's political beliefs are however, any employee doing work for a company and/or institution should speak according to the Mission Statement of the respective body.
It has been long observed that RTK Personnel speak not in terms of the beliefs of the Catholic Church..
I do think that there is quite a great manipulation across the board which is of a very high magnitude.
Mr J Xerri
Oct 20th 2011, 13:34
So now no one can feel safe that he/she can communicate by e.mail without the danger that what he/she writes is not seen/read by a third party.
This is also putting a further handicap on those political parties who are not in Government as their means of communication is being highly restricted.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 15:31
That is what Dear Joseph wants to make you believe, but in reality it is not like that... emails where leaked from Joseph Muscat own website. Given the date of those emails I think that most probably they might have used the hosting space as a backup for the emails and someone found them there.
Charles Zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 13:31
Loyalty & Trust !!!
Kenneth Williams
Oct 20th 2011, 13:29
Democracy at its very best
Tony Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 13:28
To be honest the sacking of Ms. Agius was to be expected.
Ms. Agius, do not worry. I am sure that in the next few hours you will received a phone call from Peppi Azzopardi offering you a job with Where's Everybody.
It was Peppi who said, on different occasions, that he always comes to the rescue of people who are being attacked on the media irrespective of which political side they are on.
To Peppi Azzopard....here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is!!
Lawrence Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 13:17
I just had a quick look at the mails... Seems that Joseph Muscat always gives a one line reply... is this his policy???
On the other hand if there was hacking of someone's mail that was Mrs Agius account.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 13:12
Employers have every right to check traffic content sent through their internal server,it's company property and sent on company time for which the employee is paid at the end of the month. Otherwise you get people sending personal emails,chatting, Facebook, Premier League sites, newspaper sites (why not, even timesofmalta.com :) ), blogs, internet shopping or, if you are a right proper idiot and fed up with your job or career, porn. Malajr tghaddi il-gurnata hekk !
When employers rightly so do this checking, web-surfing of this sort on company time drastically drops.
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 20th 2011, 15:26
True Mr Farrugia. But how come these emails ended up at the PN station ???? Has RTK (and hence the local Church) become a branch of NET news ?????
A. Mizzi
Oct 20th 2011, 13:10
Shame! No Shame!
Now even the Church Media , like PBS has become a branch of the P.N. Media ...as if only P.N. supporters are church going!
Something is very wrong, this is not Christ's Church! Why the silence from the Top Church Authorities? Why do they let these goings on?
Can the Church afford more boycotts at the rate that is is losing its credibility?
Patrick Zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 13:09
Is the Data Commission asleep?
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 13:08
Zamitu postha Joseph!!!
Saviour M Garzia
Oct 20th 2011, 13:08
Its not for us to judge why the journalist was suspended, or what she wrote to Dr J.Muscat that was a private matter. We will surely be hearing a lot about it in the future!
Lets no miss the cardinal point here. What is relevant here is that fact that correspondence between 2 persons was obtained by a third party. How was this possible? Data protection act is it in vigore or not?
A. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 13:06
Vera li keccewha imma ghamlet investiment ghal futur!
charles tabone
Oct 20th 2011, 13:04
Viva l-QDUSIJA ta' mi #n imexxi RTK. Truly you're ewxpressing religion as a way of life. The church's administration has been well known for its political bent and has not changed. That is why the numbers in the flock are dwindling. ISTHU!
victor caruana
Oct 20th 2011, 13:03
What do you expect from a church of malta insistution!!!! Anzi ghada ma bdietx l-inkwizizzjoni.....dawn tal-knisja kattolika, l-aktar il-lajci, m'hawnx aghar minnhom....
Jon Vercellono
Oct 20th 2011, 14:52
The church was the victim here Sur Caruana - much as it was victimised throughout the latter part of the 20th century by unscrupulous individuals like this "reporter". Do not blame the church, she should not suffer through the wrongdoing of others - however I am sure that she will forgive.
M Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 13:00
And then they come out against PBS !
What a joke !! Gino Cauchi said on INKONTRI that these sort of things do not happen any more, did he know about this ??
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 20th 2011, 15:30
M Borg, taf x'konna nahsbu imma morna mqarrqin, li l-istat polizjesk kien spicca !!! Imma jidher li rega tfacca f'dal pajjiz. L-RTK kellha dritt tara x'inhu jsir fis-sistema taghha imma ma kellha ebda dritt taddi nformazzjoni bhall dik lill Net news hux. Mela issa l-RTK u l-Knisja huma dikjarati bhala affiljati mall PN hux hekk.
George Cremona
Oct 20th 2011, 12:53
Again PL and Joseph Muscat......any comments please?
Oliver Grech
Oct 20th 2011, 12:53
Joseph Muscat should start showing us that he acts on what he says. If he always asks for resignations, then he should resign himself this time round.
Hehe, its funny he has attacked the PN on how they got the information because he is simply trying to change the subject...that is that he is working not to have a balanced independent newsroom. U hallina Joseph...do you think we re stupid?
Daqt he asks for the resignation of the CEO of google because he will conclude that he helped the PN.
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2011, 12:51
Fuq kollox John Dalli stess din il-gimgha stqarr on camera f'liema stat tinsab id-demokrazija fil-pajjiz. Biex nigu bhas-snin 80 kull ma rridu Oppozizzjoni Irresponsabbli li taghmel bombi, vandalizmu, disubbidjenza civili, bojkotts, tixwix barra u provokazzjoni, imma l-PL mhux se jaqa hekk fil-baxx.
Joe Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:50
The e-mails that have been published were send from Sabrina Agius employer server and using her employer e-mail account. The employer have every right to access that information. An e-mail in no different from a letter filled in a filling cabinet. Sabrina Agius got passed for a promotion, most likely for the way she was going about her job. She went to the Tribunal about it. The employer to undermine her case and bring the case to a quick end leaked the e-mails. No hacking took place. JUST PLAIN STUPIDTY ONBEHALF OF SABRINA AGIUS AND, YES FROM JOSEPH MUSCAT.
George Calleja
Oct 20th 2011, 12:48
Veru l-politika mahmuga! Mela lil Peppi u lil Lou qed jakkuzawhom bi zbilanc favur in-Nazzjonalisti u allajbierek fl-RTK kien hemm persuna tghaddi informazzjoni sensittiva lil JM. Ta min hi l-ikbar htija? L-emails li ghaddew bejn SA u JM huma tassew inkwetanti u ghax qed juru kif l-partiti jinqdew b'certi nies biex iwasslu l-messagg taghhom. Imbaghad taqra u tisma l-ahbarijiet u minghalik li gejjin minn pinna ndipendenti. Kull gazzetta u stazzjon ghandhom l-ispjuni taghhom. Xejn m'ghadu genwin fid-dinja u c-cittadin manipulat minn imniehru!! U l-politici jixxalaw!!
Saviour Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:46
Soon there will be a statment from Sabrina that she will contest with PL for next Election.
Mr A Grech
Oct 20th 2011, 12:45
These are three separate e-mails. Tgerfix, Prosit, and Info.
All three e-mails have been printed directly from Sabrina Agius' Gmail account onto paper, and then scanned. These can be noted from the Gmail header with the Gmail logo and also her e-mail address in the header indicating that they were printed from her account.
Also from the quality of the pages it is clear that these have been scanned. This looks more like "stealing printed documents" rather than IT hacking.
Victor Calleja
Oct 20th 2011, 12:41
Min Ma ghandux htijja jitfa l-ewwel gebla. Tghid il PN ma ghandux xi haga simili. Oqbra mbajda.
MC Attard
Oct 20th 2011, 13:03
Prove and then talk ;)
Julian Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 14:15
Two wrongs make a right hux hekk? Kunu oggettivi ghal darba - ifthu ghajnejkom....b'hekk tridu tirbhu elezzjoni?
Mr Ernest Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 14:35
Kemm tafu tikkwotaw lil Kristu meta jaqblilkom...kif il-One qatt ma kwotah lil Kristu jghid li d-divorzju huwa hazin
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 12:37
First we had Cyrus Engerer's case......
Now, we have Sabrina's case........
Are these coincidences?
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2011, 12:45
Fil-pajjiz hawn servizz sigriet jopera minn taht u nghid dan anke min esperjenzi personali. Servizz sigriet li garanzija nghidilkom li jaghfsu buttuna u jkunu jafu kollox fuqkom.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 12:34
What did she expect ? A promotion !
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 20th 2011, 13:08
No for sure Mr Farrugia. but at least the decency of having your own privacy. That's why we fought all the battles during the 80s police oppressions. Unfortunately history is repeating itself in a more subtle manner
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 13:10
@ Anthony Farrugia
Le Sur Farrugia imma l-premju "l-Haddiem tas-Sena"!!!!
U halluna.
Gordon Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 12:23
this correspondence no doubt issued to damage Sabrina and the Labour party are interesting in that they give you a snapshot of how it is like working from the inside at RTK. It portrays a leadership at RTK of arrogance and dictatorship attitude.
"Chairman: Ahna niddeciedu...You follow"
And RTK is owned by the Church of Malta huh lol
W Cassar
Oct 20th 2011, 12:50
Shines a very bad light on RTK as far as I know one gets a warning for coming in late or not doing the required work before they can sack you. What have the Unions got to say about this?
George Calleja
Oct 20th 2011, 12:53
You call leadership at RTK arrogant( a common buzz word by PL supporters lately) When what is Sabrina Agius?? I 'd better not use the adjective to save her all the blushes!!
John Zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 12:54
Now they are short of money and shorter they are going to be RTK is now run 100% by the PN so appeal to labour supporters to start doing as their elders use to do in the 60s
M Mamo
Oct 20th 2011, 13:11
what are you talking about?! This issue was started by JOSEPH MUSCAT who asked for an investigation and the pubblication of the correspondance ... PN issued the info. as requested and JM was so happy that the PN showed him proof they had the info. as seen in his statement yesterday!
r buttigieg
Oct 20th 2011, 14:28
that is not the point... the point is
1-how did the info get public (it is of public interest for sure as we have a possible future PM eavedropping onto a private company through a mole).
2-The PN also has to clarify how it got these.
Be objective not blinkered
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:23
I can imagine what you labor brain washed supporters would have to say if instead of Joseph Muscat she leaked the information to Dr.Gonzi!! You show what kind of people PL is full off!!
Joseph Grech Attard
Oct 20th 2011, 12:38
Mr Aquilina, do you have any mirrors at home? If not, go and look well at yourself and other 'rain-washed' GonziPN supporters and you will understand perfectly, once and for all, how 'pulcinelli' look like!
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:47
@Joseph Grech Attard
Did I lie? No.
W Cassar
Oct 20th 2011, 12:52
Believe me the NP is no better probably worse after all these years in power.
One has to remember that Malta is small, everyone knows everyone which leads to lines getting blurred and malpractice.
Mario Camilleri
Oct 20th 2011, 13:03
The irony is that all these COINCIDENCES are taking place under the PN who talks highly of DEMOCRACY, but it seems that the freedom of expression and the freedom of speech, Eddie's words were nothing except brainwashing for the PN to acquire power. If you have read the emails you would know that Joseph was only replying back to the editor.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 13:12
@Joseph Grech Attard
Did I lie? Isn't it true that PL supporters reaction to this news would have been the opposite if Sabrina was cought sending emails to Gonzi rather then Joseph!?
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 13:23
@ Joseph Aquilina
No Mr. Aquilina, after reading the e-mails, my question to JOSEPH not to the leader because when you are caught red-handed with such ill-mannered behaviour, you are not worthy to occupy that post, would be :- How would you have acted if an employee form Surer One Tv or Radio divulged the same information either to Net TV, or to RTK, or to Smash TV, or to Radio Maria?
Joseph or somebody on his behalf because it might be he is busy, answer please!!!
Michael Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 13:30
Mr. Grech Attard ma stajtx pogejtielu ahajr is sugerimet li Mr.Joseph Aquilina
Martin Busuttil
Oct 20th 2011, 12:21
and then back in the 80s, people use to say that we were living in a police state.
what about now?
if at that time we were living in a police state, now we are living in a the KGB era.
in the US, a man who simply hacked a facebook account, got a 5 years prison sentence, and here hacking an e-mail account of a politician and a journalist, or tapping MPs mobiles, seems to be the order of the day.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:51
He made those emails public ... obviously by mistake ... but you can't blame PN for taking advantage of others people mistakes!!
E Schembri
Oct 20th 2011, 13:28
There is no proof it was hacked. It could have very well been leaked by an insider.
Don't jump to conclusion just because your leader said so.
M Mamo
Oct 20th 2011, 12:19
Now go thank Joseph for his advice ... why worry anyway, most probably she is already offered a job with Maltastar or l-Orizzont ... or an election proposal because she is now popular and can "attract votes" like the National Orchestra maestro ... thats what changed in the new LP after all - not the vision of their politicians like Mintoff and Sant who struggled to improve Malta using their ideals, but the greediness of their leader who wants to becomee the youngest PM of Malta!
Paul Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 12:18
Hemm ha ara, hekk tafu taghamlu tal PN, vendikazjonijiet, sospensjonijiet, hekk imbaghad tejdu ghal PL, u halluna, ghar minna ja SPJUNI , ittapjar tat telephones, qisna 007, insomma tal PL irridu joqoghodu nattenti hafna ghax tal PN ma jifilhux ghal telfa eletorali, ghax dawk li qieghdin ippappua,, qed jibzaw, u man tijhomx tort, ghax minn jaf khemm irrid jinqala hama. Komplu sejrin hekk qisna stat faxxist.
U hanejdilkhom lil PL naghati tort, ghax dawn huma tattici ta stat, qisna LIRAQ. Fix wassanna.
Anka bil mobajl mitfi kappaci jaqbduk, trid taqla il battry biex ma jismakx, IL BIG BROTHER,GRANDE FRATELLO, HEKK SIRNA GRANDE FRATELLO. It -tecnologija li tawna l-Americani ghal kontra it-terrorizmu spiccat tintuza kontra hutna il-Maltin.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:24
She was working against the interests of her own employer!! What do you expect. Try to do it on your work and you will see what you will get!!
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 12:24
Mhux hekk sur Micallef. Il-faxxist huwa dak illi ikollu xibka ta nies biex bl'aktar mod pastaz jigbor informazzjoni fuq attivitajiet ta hadd iehor!
Mr Martin Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:50
If you take out the battery of your mobile phone nobody will surely hear you. Austin Gatt was right. Another twenty years in opposition.
Carmel Xuereb
Oct 20th 2011, 12:15
Mela l-RTK huwa ir-radio mmexxi mill-Knisja u la issa qed turi bic-car kemm hija kontra dak kollu li hu Labour jiena mil-lum il-quddiem mhux ser naghti iktar donazzjoijiet la l-ilha u l-inqas lil dawk li b'xi mod ghandhom x'jaqsmu maghha.
Alan Abela
Oct 20th 2011, 12:36
Xi dwejaq ta nies!
M Mamo
Oct 20th 2011, 13:08
nissiltli demgha sur Xuereb ... bhallikieku taghti donazzjoni lid-Dar tal-Providenza jkun qed igawdihom l-Arcisqof ... ghandek biex tiftahar bil-'KARITA' li taghti wkoll!
Joseph J Camilleri
Oct 20th 2011, 14:40
Ara x'ghandu x'jaqsam jekk taghtix donazzjonijiet jew le lill-Knisja. Sa fejn naf jien e-mails li jidhlu minn sorsi barra ufficcju jghaddu minn sistema ta' filtering minhabba xi viruses u anke jistghu jigu mblukkati mis-sistema. Hi ma kellhiex dritt tghaddi informazzjoni sigrieta mis-sistema tal-ufficcju. L-employer taghha mexa' ma' normi kif jigri f'kull kumpanija.
Giovann Demartino
Oct 20th 2011, 12:15
Hekk titlob is-serjeta.
Paul Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 12:30
Mur kiku taht il PL jarawlek lemails Mr Dmartino, eh?? Xi tejd kiku??
Anthony Scicluna
Oct 20th 2011, 12:36
Hekk titlob is-serjeta Sur Demartino ???? Stat polizjesk ???? Kemm konna kontra fit-tmenijijet ghax konna f'dan l-istat. X'garalek issa ?? Jew ghax issa hemm il-partit li tappoggja allura kollox hu accettat ?
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2011, 12:41
Kun serju darba int Sur Demartino mhux jekk il-PN jghidlek oghqod rasek l-isfel hekk taghmel. Tibqax pupazz, suppost matur illum.
W Cassar
Oct 20th 2011, 12:45
Of course you are going to say that, you are too biased to say anything else.
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 12:51
x'titlob is-serjeta mr Demartino? li jigi mkecci minn ghamel il-hacking??
if so FOR ONCE i agree with you mr Demartino :))
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 13:07
@Paul Micallef,@Anthony Scicluna,@R. Gauci
What would you three have to say if rather then Joseph, Dear Sabrina leaked all she knew to Dr.Gonzi ... hmmm... wonder of wonders!!
Giovann Demartino
Oct 20th 2011, 14:05
Mur ar kieku kionna fi zmien it-terrur u din inqabdet taghmel dak li allegatament ghamlet KONTRA r-regim. Mur ar kieku kif kienet tispicca ikkapuljat. Baqghu dak li kienu. Mur obsor eh min ikun qed jikxiflek ghajnek. U riedet promotion din.
Antoine Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:14
Saying that these emails are embarrassing for the PL would be putting it very mildly.
'Explosive' would describe them better: after the fuss about Lou Bondi's and Peppi Azzopardi's alleged bias, we now learn that Joseph Muscat himself was working underhandedly to plant Mintoffians in "independent" media.
Like all other RTK listeners, I had been deceived into assuming that Ms Agius was an independent journalist and never suspected that she was working so closely with Joseph Muscat and was so biased in the PL's favour.
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 12:27
NOOOOOO Antoine.
Seismic is the word - remember the earthquake which was supposed to bring about a new manner of how to do things based on higher morals. Here it is.
Joseph Grech Attard
Oct 20th 2011, 12:35
Biex tiskongra trid tkun pur Sur Vella! There are many more journalists and newspapers and radio station that label themselves as independent, but act differently, e.g the Times, The Sunday Times, The Malta Indepenedent, etc. But, of course, these are all pro GonziPN and so it does not matter. The most controversial is Campus FM! Just hear its "What the newspapers have to say" and, instead of reporting the newspapers articles, most critics give their own personal views about the articles - and, alas, they are all 100% pro GonziPN biased; something to be condemned, coming as it is, from a 'free' university campus! At least, give us 'Montoffians' (so proud of it I am) also a chance, and not only the Gonzians!! 'One should feel and see justice being done, and not just speak about i,' said many a time a late ex-president of our little Island!
M Damato
Oct 20th 2011, 12:55
@ Mr. Joseph Grech Attard
and what about "l-orrizont - il-gurnal indipendenti ta' kuljum"
Truly "biex tiskongra trid tkun pur" .... and this this case "il-q......a milli jkollha 'ttik" !!!!
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 13:13
@Joseph Grech Attard
Yep Times is so much pro-Gonzi that it lets you comment here against him ... makes sense! complete sense!
Edward Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 13:30
@ Joseph Grech Attard
You forgot the gurnal indipendenti ta' kuljum - 'L-Orizzont' and oh, Malta Today!
Carmel Cilia
Oct 20th 2011, 14:13
I know of several other journalists who pose as independent but are actually so blue eyed that they are colour blind. How is it that you did not mention also some of these in your example. I know you are also colour blind.
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 14:21
@ Mr Grech Attard,
int lest li tkompli timpjega mieghek persuna li l evidenza turi li lesta tahdem kontra l interessi tieghek bhala employer taghha?
Pat Hobson
Oct 20th 2011, 12:13
Another ploy by the PN strategists to ward off the people's attention from the PL's motion calling for Gatt's resignation and Franco Debono's broadside on the PN party.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:25
gatt should resign coz he did a mess, but this is another mess ... a mess where joseph muscat was cought trying to influence independent media by inflitrating his own!!
ADRIAN GRECH
Oct 20th 2011, 12:36
So as you say the PN should have let it go and only leave the PL to scoup up topics . Yea sure inteligence!!
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 12:56
What ploy? It was Joseph Muscat who went yelling Hacking! Hacking!
It turns out not to be hacking at all.
All employees should know that company mail goes through the company server that keeps records of anything sent by e-mail on company time and resources.
Carmel Cilia
Oct 20th 2011, 14:09
@Jos Aquilina : have you been appointed the new media manager for the P.N. lately or what?
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2011, 12:08
Evviva l-Karita` Kristjana!! Tal-misthija naqra li wahda mir-ragunijiet li giet sospiza kienet ghax ma keccietx 2 impjegati li ghamlu zbalji venjali u miflok taghthom warning. Dan ir-radju tal-Knisja ta` Kristu?? Isthu!!!!! Imbaghad fejn hi d-data protection? Kif jaqbdu u jcappsu emails privati f'ghanejn kullhadd??
Ms Maria Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:27
No it is called work ethics - you do not discuss internal issues with external parties, especially if they are in politics. They were not private emails they were discussing work issues.
serjeta u responsabilta dik - jekk forsi ma tafx xi tfisser?
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2011, 12:43
Sa fejn naf jien ma harget xejn fil-pubbliku. Qatt ma tlabt parir fuq work related problems int? Milli qed naqra fl-RTK hemm kollox minbarra serjeta u responsabilita' minbarra li qed jitmexxa fuq sistema Kapitalista.
Mr Ernest Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 14:37
R.Gauci...fejn hija l-etika socjalista ta Joseph Muscat....din hija iktar mossa stil komunista li jibghat infiltrati biex janticipa min qabel il-mossi ta haddiehor....Mela tal-Labour jahsbu li huma l-fuq mill-ligi...u Kristu f'hiex jidhol hawn???
Ms Maria Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 14:43
discussing such concerns issues with a close family member is one thing, discussing them with the head of a political party or public figure, irrespective of what side they are on is another thing.
moreover, if this was done during company time then it is more and more not acceptable
R. Gauci
Oct 20th 2011, 17:37
Mela ghandu infiltrati l-PN li hafna minnhom hargu fil-berah fi zmien ir-referendum. Jien ma rajt xejn hazin hlief persuna ddisprata u Dr. Muscat jaghtiha pariri tipo 'tghaggilx'. Mur gibkom kienet ghaddeja xi love story ehh?
Pia Attard
Oct 20th 2011, 12:07
My problem is more that someone has accessed these peoples personal emails enough to print them and leak them to the PN. And that politicians embrace this!
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:26
It seems Joseph made them (most probably without knowing) publicly available on his website!!
Joe Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:38
Pia Attard, if one want to send personal e-mails, one should not send them on his/her employer account and from his/her employer server. ONce Sabrina choose to send the e-mails from her employer account and on her employer server they were no longer personal. These e-mails are no difference from a letter filled in a filling cabinet. The e-mail address used by Sabrina Agius belong to her employer as those the server and not to her. If you want to write a letter and file, use your own computer at home and file at your filling cabinet at home to remain personal.
joseph saliba
Oct 20th 2011, 12:54
@Joseph Aquilina
How transparent of him!!!
Edward Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 13:27
You scandalised that PN is making use of leaked emails?
How about PL making use of leaked correspondence between The US AMbassodaor in Malta and the Dept. of State? Is that not the same thing Ms Attard?
And how the PN media got hold of the emails, one has to see if Sabrina Agius was using her employr's computer and server, in which case her employer has every right to see what correspondence passes thru its erver, esp[ecially as she had just sued them over lack of promotion!
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 14:14
@Joe Vella
The emails sabrina sent where from GMail and those sent by joseph muscat where from his own domain. Do not try to put the blame on RTK. RTK did not leak anything. PN Media most probably downloaded the emails from Joseph Domain. This would only be possible if such emails where somehow left without a password protecting them..
Ramon Casha
Oct 20th 2011, 14:32
@Joe Vella: Gmail is not her employer's account
joseph saliba
Oct 20th 2011, 12:06
Interesting correspndence.
Joe Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:06
Was there any other choice? Yes, should have been fired, not suspended. Her Loyalty where not to her Employer, but to someone else.
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 12:02
the church in malta:
1st it was ms deborah schembri and now ms sabrina agius.
end result: as usual the church doesn't practise what she preaches!!
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:27
For once in your life wake up and open your eyes. The emails show that she worked against the interest of her employer. There is no other option!! But do not worry Joseph will keep his promise and "invite her on one tv more often" ... most probably she will get a job there as well!! ... she has all the needed credentials ...
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 12:48
mr aquilina: taf x'ghamel l-iben t'Alla meta kkundannawh ghal mewt, anzi ghal mewt tas-salib?? talab lil missier biex jahfrilhom "ghax ma jafhux x'inhuma jaghmlu" ... almenu l-knisja hekk ghallmitni lilhi. kif ghallmitni wkoll li min itini daqqa ta' harta fuq wicci n-naha tal-lemin, indawwarlu wicci n-naha tax-xellug, kif ghallmitni wkoll biex nahfer u nhobb lil ghajri bhali nnifsi.
mela ghalfejn il-knisja u s-soci taghha ma jimplementawx dan it-taghlim?? fuq kollox ms agius fl-opinjoni tieghi ma kienet qed taghmel xejn hazin. nahseb hafna minnha jiddiskuti s-sitwazzjoni tax-xoghol/professjoni tieghu ma hadd iehor ... le??
u dan ma semmejniex lil min kisser id-dritt fundamentali tal-bniedem u dahal fil-privatezza ta' hadd iehor! kemm ghamel iktar hazin dan mela mr aquilina?? jew tal-ahhar permessibli li jizbalja??
ftit xhur ilhu konna nghidu ghal gaddafi u r-regim tieghu ... well it seems we're not that far away!!
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 13:07
@ V V Bartolo
Oh!! Mamma Mia!! Fiex wasalna!!! Alura issa dak li dejjem kien u ghadu hazin, SAR U IRID ISIR TAJJEB sur Bartolo?
Imma x'aggettiv nista' nsib biex niddeskrivi l-arroganza, l-pretenzjonijiet moqzieza ghal kumment tieghek sur Bartolo?? Jaqaw hekk taghmel inti jekk inti impjegat, jew kont taghmel inti meta kont impjegat, biex negligenza ta' din il-kwalita' mhux talli tikkondaha, talli tapprovaha billi titfa l-htijja fuq l-"employer", li f' dan il-kaz hija l-kurja?
Ara jigux tal-"Were's Everybody" u nhar il-Gimkgha jaghmlu xi "soap opera" fuq dan is-suggett!!
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 15:07
mr hili: kieku kont l-Imghallem kont naghmel kif ghallmitni l-Knisja ... i.e. nahfer!! ...
"ahfrilna dnubietna bhal ma nahfru lil min hu hati ghalina" ... mela ma tafx mr hili li bil-kelma t-tajba tohrog il-far mit-toqba? ... ghal kuntrarju tal-arroganza li ghogbok titkellem/tikteb int!
Philip Hili
Oct 20th 2011, 18:17
@ VV Bartolo
Imbaghad tiehdu ghalikom jekk jghidlukom "Oqbra mbajda"!!
Min qallek li l-knisja ma tahfriliex, imma billi tahfer ma jfissirx li dak li ghandek tiehu, f' dan il-kaz il-kastig tan-nuqqa ta' ghemilek ma tiehdux.
Nigu sewwa kif parlajt int!! Mela ma tafx li meta xi hadd jikkommetti xi reat u l-parti li tkun irceviet ir-reat, avolja tahfer, il-gustizzja tibqa' tigri wara minn ikun wettaw ir-reat?
VV Bartolo
Oct 20th 2011, 20:27
iva l-ligi tal-bniedem hekk tghid mr hili
imma
mhux l-istess ghall-ligi Kattolika! ir-ragun tieghek huwa ragun islamiku!! ghajn ghal ghajn u sinna ghal sinna!!
"Min mhux hati jitfa l-ewwel gebla" qalilna l-Imghallem! kieku kulhadd jatwa, kemm kien ikollna dinja ahjar!
Philip Hili
Oct 21st 2011, 00:40
@VV Bartolo
La qabbist il-ligi kattolika ma tafx li ma ghadikx tqarrq bil0proxxmu tieghek izjed u izjed bl-"employer" tieghek?
Jew il-ligi kattolika tiggebed kif jaqbel lilek?
Jew il-ligi kattolika ghalik hija moghod iehor?
Sewwa jghidulkom "oqbra mbajda". Meta tridu tisservew bil-ligi kattolika imma meta il-ligi kattolika tirfes xi kallu, hemm tkunu kontriha!!!!!
Hallina Man! Ma minn hsibt li qieghed taghamilha? Ma xi corma cwiec??
A Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 12:02
Disgusting how PN hacks e-mails - this is a dictatorship!! full stop dictatorship.
Those e-mail are private.
EU human rights convention = RESPECT PEOPLE'S Private Lives!!
Jon Vercellono
Oct 20th 2011, 12:34
So in your opinion, the correspondence of the U.S. Ambassador to the State Department in Washington should be classified thus as well? I suspect given the slant of your response that you would not agree with me as to the first statement. That being said, the business being discussed in the emails whilst parochial is of the same equation (albeit on a larger scale) of the business discussed between the U.S. Ambassador and the State Department.
I. Cilia
Oct 20th 2011, 13:36
What about those emails regarding the BWSC case?
did the leader of the opposition say from where he got them?
so here he is saying that there is evidence of hacking... but in his case qal le...
biex tkun naqra kredibbli trid tkun konsistenti...
Richard Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 11:59
Machavelli would be confused on what is going on our sacred island...........So are the rest of us citizens...
joseph mifsud
Oct 20th 2011, 11:57
dik liberta tigi sospiza min xoghla.qisna pajjiz ta tielet dinja gejna.
Edward Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 13:23
So what would yo uhave done Mr Mifsud if you employ someone and you find out the she is giving inside information aboutthe company t outsiders, and also you get to know that you are actually there to be used by someone else - Joe Muscat telling her "ghandna bzonnok Head of News bhalissa", and Sabrina saying "Jekk ghandek bzonni hawn utilizzani bl-ahjar mod".
Would you still keep her in employment Mr Mifsud?
Kendrick Bondin
Oct 20th 2011, 11:57
Malta - The Mediterranean China; where nothing is personal. everything is owned by the government...