UPDATE 3: Joseph Muscat complains of hacking, demands investigation
PN head of news says no law was broken - correspondence published
Updated - adds statement by PN head of news, PL reaction - Opposition leader Joseph Muscat this evening asked the Speaker to investigate hacking of correspondence between him and RTK journalist Sabrina Agius and said this issue was a serious case of erosion of democracy.
Speaking in Parliament, Dr Muscat said he was asking the Speaker to investigate how the Nationalist Party and other persons who had the confidence of the Prime Minister, had got access to his correspondence, made over a period of months.
These persons, he said, had tried to entice journalists in the independent media to publish the correspondence, which referred to injustices, suggestions on parliamentary questions, information on alleged irregularities in Mita and other government organisations, the actions of some PBS presenters, criticism by Ms Agius of the PL media, the divorce campaign and her career.
In the correspondence he had encouraged her to apply to work at The Times or PBS.
The PN had tried to spin this correspondence, despite the fact that he had never ever interfered into who PBS or The Times engaged. It was ridiculous to even think he had such influence there.
Dr Muscat said that after the independent media did not publish this correspondence, the Nationalist Party opted to use its own media. This morning, during a visit to an IT company, he was asked by a Net TV reporter if he had ever tried to embed journalists in the independent media, precisely the spin which the PN had sought to give to this correspondence.
Clearly, Dr Muscat said, this correspondence had been acquired in an illicit and illegal manner. Somebody had either hacked his correspondence, that of Ms Agius, or both.
This information was acquired through spying by the government's party. In the UK and elsewhere such a situation had led to resignations by those involved in such matters, and those who know about them.
This case, Dr Muscat said, did not appear to be the first. One only needed to remember how some years ago the passwords of all MPs, members of the judiciary and others were allegedly lost.
One could also recall how Alfred Sant had spoken of his e-mails being hacked, and how, more recently, Evarist Bartolo and Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando complained of phone tapping - but they were never even questioned for a proper investigation.
One could also recall how the personal details of all people who called to complain at any ministry or government department were passed on to the PN.
In court, even the medical record of a person who had attacked the PN was presented. These records had previously been offered by the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff, Edgar Galea Curmi, to a journalist.
Last week a former judge concluded that he could not exclude that the Cyrus Engrer case was taken to court only after Mr Engerer resigned from the PN.
The case he was speaking about now, Dr Muscat said, had to be seen in the context that Sabrina Agius had filed a case alleging political discrimination by RTK, which preferred to engage a former PN journalist as head of news.
To date, Dr Muscat said, he had not spoken of how even his own medical records and those of his wife had been made public.
But he could not stay silent any longer. Democracy was being eroded, and there was in this country a parallel secret service which was spying on politicians and journalists, trying to hinder their work or even trying to blackmail them.
No one, however, would stop him or any of the Labour MPs from doing their duty.
However, if their own correspondence could not be trusted, what about that of ordinary people?
Foreign Minister Tonio Borg said the government had nothing against the holding of the investigation requested by Dr Muscat. The PN and the government have nothing to hide, but he wanted to deny the allegations of impropriety or illegality that had been made.
PN NEWS HEAD SAYS E-MAILS CAME FROM MUSCAT'S OWN DOMAIN
Nathaniel Attard, head of news at the PN media house, said in a statement this evening that no law was broken when copies of e-mail exchanges over a period of 11 months between Opposition leader Joseph Muscat and RTK journalist Sabrina Agius were handed to him.
It resulted from the documents themselves that the e-mails had emerged from Dr Muscat's own domain and not a government system, as had been alleged. Dr Muscat could himself verify from where these e-mails had come, Mr Attard said.
Mr Attard said the e-mails, which he was publishing, showed how the Leader of the Opposition was 'using' journalist Sabrina Agius for his political ends.
Mr Attard challenged the Opposition leader to table the documents on the Table of the House.
PL REPLY
The Labour Party said the PN media had now confirmed it was in possession of and had assumed responsibility for the correspondence between Dr Muscat and Ms Agius.
There was no other explanation other than that this correspondence was acquired through hacking, spying or theft of information from Dr Muscat, the journalist, or both, the PL said.
The PN media had belied the Foreign Minister, who had said that Dr Muscat's allegations were not true.
That Mr Attard was saying that the e-mails had not come from Dr Muscat's address on the government's systems was no excuse, but rather confirmed the need for an intensive investigation by the Speaker.
The people, the PL said, were never as concerned as today about their freedom.
See correspondence as release by the PN on pdf below.
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m farrugia
Oct 21st 2011, 18:29
kompli hekk joseph u veru naghmlu 20 sena ohra.
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 21st 2011, 15:32
I'm not going into the details of the emails. What's wrong is wrong, cannot deny that. But many people here are ignoring the fact that there must have been a similar correspondence between an RTK employee and the PN. The emails were acquired from a personal email, gmail. How? There can be different ways but it is still illegal. So RTK should investigate on who acquired them and not distribute them to a 3rd party, in this case the PN. Final note, where's the neutrality of the church? Why didn't they deal with Ms Agius personally?
I'm really not blaming any of the parties here, only RTK and the church
A Cuschieri
Oct 21st 2011, 15:29
"tip offs ghall investigazzjoni" ...
fejn hemm bzonn lesta tghin ...
Dawn l-istess nies li tkazaw b'Lou Bondi u Peppi Azzopardi? X'konsistenza mill-partit li jaspira li jkun fil-Gvern fi zmien sentejn hux ...
Alex Ellul
Oct 21st 2011, 12:12
About two years ago, the server of the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU) was hacked by someone who is still not known, downloaded thousands of e-mails showing corruption in the way climate ‘research’ had been and was being carried out. This mega-hack, which became known as CLIMATEGATE, went viral around the climate science world, following which, the CRU scientists were investigated and although the results of these investigations resulted in another corrupt cover-up, nobody ever tried to investigate the hacker or hackers. An expert on e-mails who tracked the e-mails came to the conclusion that in fact it was not a hacking operation but an inside job, that is, a still-unknown insider, a whistleblower, copied these thousands of e-mails from the university server which then ended up on a server in Russia and from there went viral.
My point is: One does not condemn the whistleblower, a noun that Joseph Muscat loves to pronounce from the opposition benches. Now that he has found himself whistle-blown, so to speak, views become foggy, even inverted.
Muriel Borg
Oct 21st 2011, 10:42
@ Joe Vella
I think the stupid one here is you as you did not realise that Ms Agius was using a gmail account which is a PERSONAL account
neville pace
Oct 21st 2011, 08:26
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/19/lord-chief-justice-press-regulation
"........... the revelation of a public scandal - must be allowed to continue to happen. My own view is that the public value of the second is priceless. Whatever means of regulation are designed to reduce the occasions of unacceptable behaviour by elements of the press they must not simultaneously, even if accidentally, diminish or dilute the ability and power of the press to reveal and highlight true public scandals or misconduct...."
Lord chief justice's speech on press regulation –
Lord Justice Judge's keynote at Human Rights Law Conference in London
On the same day of the joeyleaks
Victor Laiviera
Oct 21st 2011, 11:18
True - but the only scandal here is how those emails were obtained.
It looks as in in Malta, "1984" is arriving 30 years late - in 2014.
Francis Saliba M.D.
Oct 21st 2011, 13:38
No! Mr Laiviera.
The real shocking scandal is in the content of the exchanged e-mails between Muscat and Agius whose veracity no one is denying. The manner in which those e-mails finished in the public domain has, at most, the same significance as the disclosure in the pro-labour media of confidential e-mails during the pro divorce campaign. And you did not object to that hacking.
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 21st 2011, 15:25
I think the scandal is in both. But Mr Saliba you have to note that there must have been a similar correspondence between RTK and PN.
A Cuschieri
Oct 21st 2011, 15:39
@ Victor Laiviera
Tara t-tazza nofsha vojta, jew nofsha mimlija skond kif jaqbillek int!
Minjaf harguhomx nies vicin ta Joseph Muscat u l-PL biex tkun tista tohrog din l-istorja u jkolkom haga ohra xi twahlu fil-Gvern?
U l-kontentut xi tghid fuqhu? Taghti tip-offs lil ONE ghall investigazjonijiet? Dik etika gurnalistika hux?!
pat muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 08:16
Is by any chance, the head of RTK an ex Net News journalist? X.kumbinazzjoni hux? Taht GonziPN kollox kumbinazzjonijiet: kuntratti u konsulenzi ghal kandidati,bhal ma qal Dalli, sitta minn nies jiehdu il-kuntratti kollha; kumbinazzzjoni is-sammaritan Peppi Azzzopardi jghin lil GonziPN fl-ahhar gimgha ta l-elezzjoni, Engerer, b'kumbinazzjoni ittella il-Qorti wara li irrezenja mill-PN u issa, kumbinzzzjoni ex- gurnalist al-PN , kap ta RTK (kumbinazzjoni)jidhol fil-gmail acccount ta persuna privata u KUMBINAZZJONI jispiccaw ghad il-PN! Statistically Malta is fast becoming an anomalous country!
E Gatt
Oct 21st 2011, 09:54
@Pat Muscat
Why are you trying to stick up for someone who is in serious breach of her employment contract, and someone else who is egging her on to remain a mole in a competing radio station?
pat muscat
Oct 21st 2011, 13:33
Can you inform us how many employers look into the g mail account of their employees? The company e- mail account yes, but not g mail which could be sourced from any place around the world, let alone from the employee's desk! G mail accounts are private and confidential as far as I know.
Alex Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 22:00
With Fr. Joe Borg'spermission, a quotation from his blog:
Last April, during the divorce referendum campaign, the media of the Partit Laburista – One Radio and One TV - and its fellow travelers – It-Torca and Malta Today – published e-mails which were either hacked or procured in some other illegal way from the computers or offices of a number of ordinary citizens, myself included. The e-mails concerned discussions about the theme song which could be used by the No to Divorce Movement and also possible points that could be raised during a meeting with parish priests on the subject.
Dr Muscat is the leader of the party which is the owner of One Radio and One TV. The media owned by Dr Muscat as leader of the PL, feasted on these e-mails and their content. Those e-mails were published by people who enjoy the full confidence and trust of Dr Muscat.
Dr Muscat, do you think that even the hacking or illegal procurement of e-mails from members of the anti-divorce front was a sign of the erosion of democracy?
Mr Paul Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 21:45
Thats what the PAR IDEJN SODI are doing. They are ripping off the maltese society, sowing hate, arrogance and insensitiveness. This will remind us of the Communist era when tyrants oppressed their fellow countrymen,
pat muscat
Oct 20th 2011, 21:29
Friends of mine employ lots of people and they never look into the employee's private mail. RTK is not NASA or the CIA for that matter!
vincent a galea
Oct 20th 2011, 17:28
Can someody kindly inform me whether Ms Agius was sending/receiving these emails on her work computer?
A. Mizzi
Oct 20th 2011, 19:34
From where should she send and receive e-mail?
She was just not aware that Big Brother is not only watching, but listening to conversations, and hacking e-mails!
The e-mails were in actual fact work related! What has this country come to ?
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jesmond zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 16:21
is serhan il mohh , m ghadhux jezisti.
Oliver Grech
Oct 20th 2011, 16:03
Joseph Muscat should start showing us that he acts on what he says. If he always asks for resignations, then he should resign himself this time round.
Hehe, its funny he has attacked the PN on how they got the information because he is simply trying to change the subject...that is that he is working not to have a balanced independent newsroom. U hallina Joseph...do you think we re stupid?
Daqt he asks for the resignation of the CEO of google because he will conclude that he helped the PN.
George Azzopardi
Oct 20th 2011, 20:28
the hacking of email servers seem ok to you? OMG!!
Alex Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 15:43
Julian Assange: Where are you? You've been outsmarted.
E Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 15:28
Perhaps Peppi Azzopardi needs to organise a press ethics refresher course at Mile End.
Two front seats should be reserved for Joseph and Sabrina.
Julian Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 14:27
Let's do a PL on this one, shall we?
MuscatPL resign. Know you no shame? We won't you out of the way because we want to get rid of the corruption minds of the PL. You think you can fool the people, the citizens of Malta? Why you hang on to power in the PL. Resign if you have no shame give PN another chance.
John Zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 13:58
SO THE PN IS SAYING THAT THE LABOUR Party is planting people in hot position Wh at are the Gonzi PN clan Doing not in PBS only but other papers that are supposed to be independent Now we have the RTK also under the wing of Gonzi PN
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 13:38
Some commenters here are saying that these emails became public as they were on the servers of Ms Agius' employer - RTK.
Are they saying that it was RTK (in effect, the Church) which leaked these emails to the PN media?
That makes the whole affair 1000 time more worrying.
Is the Unholy Alliance back?
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 12:44
One should attack the contents of the message , not the messenger conveying the said message.
Does not Dr Muscat have IT experts who should have advised him on the existance of a company server that keeps records of all company (RTK in this case) electronic mail including any correspondence he may have had with an employee of RTK? The information therein is company property, for the company to use as it deems necessary ,to safeguard company interests.
That , as far as I know ,is NOT hacking .
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 16:41
You are wrong Ms Galea. Sabrina Sgius was using a gmail account. That does not belong to the company.
Mr Anthony Briffa
Oct 20th 2011, 12:31
With all this talk of hacking and shame, it is the PL leader who should be ashamed by planting people in the newsrooms of the media to get inside information. Is the way he wants to win the next election?
Any person who has some intellegence could detect that things were not right with the newsrooms of certain dailies and that the news was presented into a very biased way. Now this is the proof of what is going on.
Instead of requesting an enquiry and play the victim, he should go to the police if hefeels that his privacy has been infringed but at the same time he should resign because like this he is playing outside the rules of the game. Having said this everybody knows that he will not resign because for him everything and everybody is a means to an end.
Shame on the journalists who are playing a double game.
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 13:21
Man you really have some guts asking for Joseph Muscat's resignation !!!
1) First of all he did not plant any journalist in any newsroom she was already working there.
2) Yes you are right any person with some intelligence (you do not qualify with this lot) would notice that news rooms of certain dailies and most of all the National TV Station are presenting the news in a very BIASED way.
3) I could'nt agree more with you, she should go to the Police and press this issue forward....remember PN was already involved in Data protection infringment when their secretary sent an e-mail to the then PL secretary showing that the PN were obtaining information from a particular ministry.
Believe me there are a million instances the members of this Cabinet should have resigned like on the Powers Station Scandal, Arriva and Smart City to name a few.
Joe Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 12:26
The e-mails that have been published were send from Sabrina Agius employer server and using her employer e-mail account. The employer have every right to access that information. An e-mail in no different from a letter filled in a filling cabinet. Sabrina Agius got passed for a promotion, most likely for the way she was going about her job. She went to the Tribunal about it. The employer to undermine her case and bring the case to a quick end leaked the e-mails. No hacking took place. JUST PLAIN STUPIDTY ONBEHALF OF SABRINA AGIUS AND, YES FROM JOSEPH MUSCAT.
David Mercieca
Oct 20th 2011, 13:54
1. she was not using the "employer" e-mail account. She was using her personal account
2. Although the employer "has every right to access that information" it can only happen to a certain extent. This is illustrated in the data protection act signed by the Republic of Malta.
(not attacking anyone, just clearing the facts)
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 21st 2011, 15:16
The problem is that to access the gmail account (and the way the print outs are) they acquired her gmail password! One has to realise the gravity of this
Alfred Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 12:23
"There was no other explanation other than that this correspondence was acquired through hacking, spying or theft of information from Dr Muscat, the journalist, or both, the PL said."
Ajma, hacking, spying, x'ugieh ta' zaqq. Is-sinjura Aguis halliet il-PC mhux lockjat. Xi hadd jahdem maghha fetthilha il-gmail u ipprintja il-korrispondenza tagghha ma Muscat. Mill emails hija OVVJA li hekk gara.
Jekk taqrawhom tindundaw li hemm pages 2, 3,5 and 6 tat-tieni email neqsin. X'kien fihom dawn il-pagni? Interessanti forsi li insiru nafu.
U jekk vera Dr. Muscat jirnexxielu jaffaccja emails ta' dan it tip ("dejjem imaginajtni l-izghar ministru, jahasra") mela vera ghandu pacenzja ta' Gobb.
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 12:46
Dr Muscat ,it may be advisable to consider re-shuffling the team of IT experts advising you,
Kurt Mifsud
Oct 21st 2011, 15:21
Li qed tghid int huwa minnu Alfred pero hemm fattur iehor ukoll. Kien hemm korrispondenza simili bejn xi hadd mill-RTK u xi hadd mill-PN. U li nara tal-misthija kif il-knisja tassocja ruha ma partit politiku. Ghax dan sar fi proprjeta ta l-RTK. Jigifieri l-RTK mhux talli mhux suppost jaghddi din it-tip ta info lil 3rd party anzi ghandu jinvestiga min ghaddiehom. Qisna soap opera spiccajna!
M Damato
Oct 20th 2011, 12:11
Quote:
Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:24 AM
Bla dubju. Qed tatini training aghar mill-Kung Fu :)
Unquote:
Hey... wait... I was givin to think that the training part was only exclusive to Peppi Azzopardi...
Peppi Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 12:10
How right was Dalli when he said that democracy is no more in this country!
Richard Caruana
Oct 20th 2011, 12:03
No wonder JM got hot under the collar; he was getting inside information about RTK from an empolyee, for eleven months, and not just through an email or two!
How naive both JM and this girl have been! Both work within shouting distance from each other, and could have easily kept personal contact. It's obvious that there was no hacking at all, someone got to know what was going on and simply spilled the beans!
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 12:18
@ richard caruana
you said.................spilledthe beans
spilled the beans by getting hold of other's emails and printing them!!!!!!
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 12:01
Can't one see that these things have occured after Ms.Agius instuted proceedings against RTK?
Also, if one makes 1+1, the person who is head of news at RTK is an ex-medialink journalist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ms.D. Galea
Oct 20th 2011, 12:48
r Borg , would you keep on in your employment anyone seen to be using your company's IT system to spy on you?
A Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 11:50
What a disgrace; Malta is becoming like Libya - with secret police, hacking, intimidation etc.
Let's not forget that when a student protest with Austin - an un-identified person quickly went to approcah her to thake her details - total dicitatorship. It is a shame!!
One PN stood for hope - now it sold itself to the dogs and PL become the only hope!
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 12:10
Sur Dimech ghandek il-prijoritajiet tieghek ta' taht fuq.
Julian Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 12:19
Qed tghid il-hmerijiet - Looks like you have all the answers - no point in a Police investigation here!
That girl spoke her mind and her right to speak her might was confirmed but the Minister himself - so I really don't know what you are getting at here. You must have her confused with our student days when we were arrested for demanding education!
Carmel camilleri
Oct 20th 2011, 17:27
The fact is that Joseph is diverting the issue to hacking while in fact the real issue is that of planting moles in other organisations.
A Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 11:33
XI hmieg spiccajna!! id-dicenza spiccat taht Gonzi.
Fundamenbtal right = Respect Privat life!!
BE AWARE = PN is reading your e-mails!!!
Ben Harper
Oct 20th 2011, 12:42
And lejber has access to you business confidential information through your own employees
A Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 11:29
This is private communication and nobody should be allowed to access this illegally.
As far as I know, a fundamental human right by the European Union convention is:-
RESPCT PRIVATER LIFE AND PRIVATE INFORMATION.
Someone is definately not doing so!!
Pajjiz tal-Miki Mouse - u it-Times should Not be publishing these neither!!
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 12:11
Private communication my foot! This is insider information of the most serious kind.
Joseph Cauchi Senior
Oct 20th 2011, 11:24
This is not a question of HOW the e-mails were leaked, but rather WHAT’S inside them!
Perhaps, it’s good that these e-mails were leaked and made public so as “We The People” will understand with what we are dealing with!
Very worrying indeed!
JC.
Wayne Criggs
Oct 20th 2011, 11:21
Who agrees with this disgusting case of hacking, spying and theft? If you do, then your place is not in a democratic and free country. Enough said.
O R Busuttil
Oct 20th 2011, 11:20
Thing is, will I go close my gmail account because I think the PN Big Brother just busted through Google’s security filters and may now spy my personal mails?
Ehm…NOT!!
Marija Falzon
Oct 20th 2011, 11:18
This is a blatant disgrace. How can a news company owned by the nationalist party get hold of correspondence of the leader of the labour party with legal means? it is completely unconceivable. This country is fast becoming a totalitarian one, and the nationalists seem to be proud of it.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 12:04
They said that they downloaded such correspondance from his site. If he does not believe them then what Joseph has to do is report the issue with the police... The police will find he does not know how to use a computer and the case will be settled.
Marija Falzon
Oct 20th 2011, 13:22
Are you serious? As far as I know, e-mails are normally accessed via a password. And I cannot find where anyone states that they have been downloaded from a site. please illuminate us, unless you are happy with the police state Dr. Gonzi is making us live in. This is becoming worse than the 80s.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 11:11
No wonder Joseph Muscat went ballistic when emails were published; he can be quite manipulative. And she had the cheek to go to an Employment Tribunal as she said she was bypassed for promotion; what about her loyalty to her employer, confidentiality, use of company time, you name it she did it. It’s RTK who should take her to court !
John Zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 11:05
See this correspondence is very very worrying....
Having a potential future PM replying with 'Eh OK!' makes me wonder...
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 20th 2011, 10:53
Is Sabrina Agius complaining before an Employment Tribunal that she was bypassed for promotion ? What about her loyalty to her employer ?
Julian Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 10:25
Smart cookie this one - wants to become a Minister right away - jahasra how naive some people are! Tajba Joseph - your credibility continues to sink. Keep it up - modern, liberal u progressive. This has been a good week for you - first you reminded those that forgot what the PL is really about on Inkontri - you took us back 25 years! Now this. You are a disgrace to the PL and the country!
Paul Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 11:54
Naive??? Ahseb u ara tal PN, They want to do another years in POWER???How liberal and progresive that sounds???Did you see INKONTRI???? The bulk of the attacks come from JPO, and John Dalli, and another one that by the look of things has JUMPED THE WAGGON. As for credability we will see the next election.
Julian Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 12:37
@Paul Micallef
What has the desire to serve this country and continue governing it with great results have to do with liberal and progressive? Of course I watched Inkontri - I am glad you are proud of the liberal and progressive Labour exponents on that show - they reminded us of the bad old days when Labour was in Government - shouting down polite interventions, fist thumping on the table, totally unbalanced panel and Nationalists with an axe to grind used in an attempt to embarrass the PN. The only embarrassment was the show itself - it descended where the PN would never dare to go.
You seem to think that governing a country is a matter of letting the other side have a go. Many of us would love to have an alternative to the PN - but frankly this episode, Inkontri and the fluff that is passed as PL vision achieves quite the opposite because we cannot afford to lose what the Nats have gained for us in our GDP, education, health, standing on the World stage, infrastructure and JOBS JOBS JOBS.
E Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 10:07
“The people, the PL said, were never as concerned as today about their freedom.”
First Labour attempt to re-write history in order to make people forget about their shameful past, now they have the audacity to come out with such statements. Labour: delusional and worrying.
A Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 11:32
Malta has finished to the dogs!!
NO DEMOCRACY ANYMORE!! -
Mr C Camilleri
Oct 20th 2011, 11:47
If you are referring to the 80's when labourists were considered satanics and church frauders etc etc etc then yes everyone would like to forget those times especially after 30 years !!! And PLEASE dont speak about Labour in the 80's when PN is doing one mess after the other includes corruptions and frauds on an everyday basis.
IT HAS BECOME SUCH A NORMAL DAILY THING TO HEAR ABOUT MESSES FROM PN THAT PEOPLE ACCEPT IT AS NORMAL LIFESTYLE BUT IF PL DOES SOMETHING WRONG THEN ... OOOOOOOOOH MY GOD WHAT A MESS ! LETS MAKE NEWS AND REMEMBER 30 YEARS AGO.
WHAT AN IGNORANT COUNTRY SOMETIMES WE LIVE IN !
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 10:06
The PL WISHES there were more journalist sympathetic to it in the media. The PN does not have to wish - it appoints it's own journalists to positions of power in PBS and pays them out of public funds.
That is the true democratic deficit.
Mark Abela
Oct 20th 2011, 10:19
For journalists to be sympathetic, you generally need to speak sense and not simply try and gain political points without having any proper political policies.
Joe Vella
Oct 20th 2011, 11:39
To be a good Journalist, first one have to have Ethics. Not only Sabrina Agius doesn't meaning of being ethical, Joseph Muscat displayed his unethical behaviour in the correspondence as well. Who wants to have a Journalists of the likes of Sabrina Agius working in their newsroom? Who wants to have a person in the likes of Joseph Muscat as their Prime Minister? The answer to both questions is NOBODY.
Tony Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 09:46
Can Nathaniel Attard please tell us how he got copy of these emails? (and this is not a matter of protecting the source)
Unless these emails were passed to him by Joseph Muscat and/or Ms Agius (which is not the case) then no matter how he got hold of them, it is ILLEGAL.
You don't need to be a legal expert to understand this.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 10:25
If you had read the article you would have found out that all that PN did was DOWNLOAD those emails from a public link available on the Internet!
Tony Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 10:38
@ Joseph Aquilina
Can you please tell me where the article states that the pn DOWNLOAD those emails from a public link available on the Internet!"?
John Zammit
Oct 20th 2011, 09:41
This is a disgrace on behalf of the PL. Manipulated a journalist for political gain is just wrong and goes against everything a democratic country is all about. This is on the verge of propaganda! What a shame if this man were to be in power...we will be in for a very rough 5 years.
Paul Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 11:55
NO as rough as these past 5 have been
Mr Eric Gahn
Oct 20th 2011, 09:36
@M Mamo
Don't you wnat to know who you can contact on local issues. For an 18 year old you are a bit stuck in a timewarp if the only time you need to contact your MP's is when you need a television. On my part, I contact MP's when, for example, I feel abused by a certain unamed PM when he says publicly that black dust cannot be studied as not enough was found to make a good sample. Or, as another example, when a right of a minority is being denied (read divorce).
I highly recommend you get unstuck from your timewarped life and move fast to 2011. Perhaps you can call on one of the very few good ones who are constantly being ostracized at PN to help you with this task.
Joseph Aquilina
Oct 20th 2011, 09:36
"that the e-mails had emerged from Dr Muscat's own domain and not a government system, as had been alleged. Dr Muscat could himself verify from where these e-mails had come"
hmmm ... I think someone at PL should explain to dear Joseph the real meaning of the word "Hacking" ... downloading content from a public link does not consist hacking ... it consist of an imense amount of stupidity by the person who uploaded them but not hacking!! ... but how can someone give any fault to Joseph ... PL is still stick in the 80s so its leader must be keep his understanding of how the world goes somewhere close to those times!!
Dominic Fenech
Oct 20th 2011, 09:31
Is it unacceptable for the LP to wish that more journalists in the independent media were sympathetic to it?
There is a difference between WISHING to have people who support you among the journalists of the independent media and 'PLANTING' people there, even if 'planting' was an option, which it is not because media directors and editors are not dummies.
Mark Anthony Sammut
Oct 20th 2011, 08:46
SA - "Qabel kollox I have to gain your trust and I must show loyalty. Skuzani qed inkun skjetta ur diretta…pero mhux il-paroli biss. I must prove myself as an individual.
Hemm xi affarijiet li kieku xorta nista’ nibda’ nahdem fuqhom minn issa
Dan ifisser li se nibdew ‘nahdmu’ bil-mod biex xi darba nohrog ghall-elezzjoni?:)"
JM - "mhux xi darba izda 12 jew 13"
SA - "Heq imma jekk jien head of news ta stazzjon kif nista? Jien kont qed nahseb ghall-elezzjoni ta’ wara…u mela u nitla mal-ewwel elezzjoni lol :)"
JM - "ghandna bzonnok head of news bhalissa"
SA - "Jekk ghandek bzonni hawn utilizzani bl-ahjar mod. Dan Jista jsir permezz ta’ tip offs ghal investigazzjonijiet ghall-istejjer.
Imma jien ukoll ghandi bzonn l-ghajnuna tieghek biex in-nies jibew ukoll isiru jafuni "
JM - "Nibdew nistednuk fuq one – izda l-ewwel sib saqajk hemm biex ma jkeccukx"
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Tghid Gino Cauchi l-istess ftehim kellu?
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 10:30
@ Mark Anthony,
You seem "min ta' gewwa" if you already have the transcripts!!! I guess you and your Bosses do have some explaining to do on how you obtained confidential information without the consent of the interested parties.
I hope that you know that you are breaking the Law even by continuing its divulgation !!!
But I am sure that you and your friends will find a way around it !!
Like I always say Everyone is Equal but some are more Equal then others !!! - ( quote from Animal Farm)
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 08:37
This is the inevitable result of too many years in power.
It is always the same. Parties attain power in a flush of idealism, energy and new ideas. And they deliver. But over the years the energy diminishes, the compromises if reality take their toll and, in the end, the only aim left is retaining power for power's sake. And to thatend, anything goes, even the most base of stratagems.
The country - and the PN itself - urgently need a change.
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 09:40
This is a result of not being up to the job! That is Muscat.
Patrick Pace
Oct 20th 2011, 08:29
Tal-misthijja fejn wasalna - nispera li ssir investigazzjoni sew halli l-gurdien u minn hu responsabbli jinqabad.
Beppe Pisani
Oct 20th 2011, 08:19
the PN will do what ever it takes to stay in power.
in the 50s and 60s they used to use the clergy to get info, now they are using modern technology!
what's new??
John Bonello
Oct 20th 2011, 08:18
A new Job Portal for those applying for new Jobs......
Call Joseph ( better than trying to send an email through a gmail account:))
If this is what our next Prime Minister is all about, then we have very serious problems....
An exchange of emails between the leader of the Labour Party and Sabrina Agius, RTK’s head of news:
SUNDAY, 18 SEPTEMBER 2011
Sabrina Agius 8:16PM
Joseph jekk ma jimpurtax tajt l-email tieghek lill-mummy. Skuzani jekk ma staqsejtekx qabel. Insejt. Imma just trid tghaddilek xi infor dwar l-IPSL jew ma nafx x’qalet hi.
Rajt vacancy re PBS Journalist/editor. X’tahseb? Nkun rasi kbira jekk napplika?
Joseph Muscat 8:31PM
Ok
Applika
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 09:52
Xi tridu jghidilha tapplikax la posta li kellha fl'RTK ittiehed min ex-medialink journalist!!!!!!!!!!
Dan planting....mela li qed jghidu li zvelaw il-PN. Is-soltu tidwir mal-lewza mil-PN biex jiggustifikaw dak li ghamlu huma!!!!!
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 08:17
It's funny how the PN are accusing Joseph Muscat of 'planting' in independent media and the an ex-medialink journalists applies and is given the p[osition at RTK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 08:17
The people, the PL said, were never as concerned as today about their freedom.
Certainly so particularly after "Inkontri" of last Monday with "independent" Grima banging on the table to silience others, Frans Ghirxi longing for Toni Pellegrini's time and Gino Cauchi threatening Anton Attard.
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 10:37
Joe,
I think you have a problem with your TV - Godfrey Grima did bang yes at the very end of the program due to a personal clash he had with Peppi - because it was personal and it showed from the begining. The rest of your comment is a pure Fantasy Invention or your TV is transmitting different versions of what happened to you.
Adrian Gouder
Oct 20th 2011, 08:08
Joseph Muscat could simply have kept silent, gone quietly to the police, and allowed them to investigate without the whole of Malta knowing that they are investigating.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 08:17
They tried that in other cases - and the matter sunk without trace.
Let the people know what is going on.
George Azzopardi
Oct 20th 2011, 08:39
On the contrary to what you're saying, Mr Muscat has the right to make this public so that all would know what is happening in this country.
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 10:20
Certainly so George! People have the right to know Muscat's true colours.
George Azzopardi
Oct 20th 2011, 11:26
@Joe Micallef .. hehe I wonder if you PN people know what true colors are .... Mafia shiha.
neville pace
Oct 20th 2011, 08:01
In this whole story it is only Joseph muscat who is spinning. He knew the emails were about to be leaked and he set up an excuse......that of hacking.....it is clear from the content of the mail. Joseph muscat is asking sabrina (who replies with smilies) "we need you at rtk for the time being" she divulges information about her superiors and joseph muscat asks if it is ok if he leaks "will i get you in trouble...." joseph muscat was acting like a journalist not like a leader of the opposition or a party leader.....shame....
David Caruana
Oct 20th 2011, 07:56
"...no law was broken when copies of e-mail exchanges over a period of 11 months between Opposition leader Joseph Muscat and RTK journalist Sabrina Agius were handed to him. (Nathaniel Attard)"
Very easy solution for everyone. Both Joseph Muscat and Sabrina Agius need to take an affidavit stating that none of them handed this correspondence to anyone else. Then and only then, Nathaniel Attard would not be able to hide behind the law protecting the secrecy of source of journalists. Then and only then, the only possible explanation would be COMPUTER MISUSE which is a punishable crime under Maltese Laws.
I wouldn't hold my breath though. It's amazing how the PN always comes out clean. Dar Centrali is full of Houdinis and they know how to play their magic. I wonder if Miss Agius will get a promotion in the coming days, just after admitting that she handed the e-mail copies :-s
neville pace
Oct 20th 2011, 07:52
What goes up, must come down. In less than a week since gino cauchi's outburst on the need of an impartial media, joseph muscat is caught redhanded ploying with his little elve at rtk. Joseph muscat is surely not credible on this one, and he has no excuse. He should ask an investigation to his own domain and get them to declare whether or not his domain was actually hacked. The joeyleaks........
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 08:57
Will someone please enlighten me, If Dr Muscat or the journalist Ms Agius did not willingly give out their correspondence, any other method it was obtained by is ILLEGAL, then an investigation should be launched and the culprits apprehended irrelevant if these were obtained by hacking or by any other method it is still illicit to obtain personal information or correspondence without first obtaining the consent from the owner. So please everyone stop B****ing and trying to find excuses for a comitted crime. God Forbid If it was the other way round each and everyone of will be screaming murder
Matthew Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 09:11
Private e-mails are just that, regardless of what is being said. But being Malta hacking will be overlooked, just like the corruption cases were overlooked in Mater Dei, Smart City, Tigne, City Gate Project, Power Station extension .... Should I really continue?? I mean seriously, I understand that people don't want to forgive Labour because of what happened 20 years ago, but to say that the PN is infallible and to defend such blatant corruption cases ...
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 10:48
Matthew,
Yep and the PN Propaganda Machine will make sure that either this is forgotten or it's turned over and use it for their advantage. I do not think that these e-mails were sent out now but these popped out now conveniently during the discussion of PBS impartiality. I think that this is a major coup, there must be either a Govt entity or a mastermind with huge financial capability to pull of a trick like this. And I think that there are more from where these e-mails came from
Am I the only one joining the dots
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 07:14
How can the PN say that Joseph Muscat is controlling the independent media.
Just by stating that he wished the reporter to join the Times or else apply for the job at PBS.
First of all the reporter has to pass through all the channels to be chosen.
neville pace
Oct 20th 2011, 08:04
Ghandi bzonnok l rtk is not just a wish....
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 08:58
@ Neville pace
If the journalist was already working with RTK already.....how can you call that planting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the usual spin from the PN media........what about the legality of the emails in thrid party's hands? How where these acquired?
Mark Abela
Oct 20th 2011, 10:15
Please tell me how the PN can hack into google mail security....The whole world should be concerned if PN from Malta can hack into google mail...
J. Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 07:11
How can the PN say that no LAW was broken. If one has in his hands other people's emails, i take it that these were acquired by either hacking or else these being sent to you by mistake.
This is a serious matter and the investigation needs to be made as quickly as possible and the people chosen should not be onsided!!!!!
neville pace
Oct 20th 2011, 07:58
The contents of the mails are of public interest. I bet you one inch had the mails been in the hand of joseph musvat he would splash them out on billboards....
Alfred Bugeja
Oct 20th 2011, 07:08
Oh! So these emails came from Dr. Muscat's gmail address!
It must have taken one hell of a hacker to get past google's security. And if google's servers have indeed been compromised, as Dr. Muscat is implying, then Google Inc. is also covering up this security breach. Shame on them! Iiiiii! How dare Google Inc. cover for the PN! (sic)
Then again it could also be a case of Dr. Muscat or Sabrina Agius leaving their email accounts vulnerable to access by others. Coming to think of it, it's probably the latter.
Mr Stephen Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 08:08
It would have been interesting to read your comment if it was the other way round. Anyway I do not want to waste any more time replying to your senseless comment.
Joseph Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 07:02
I'm getting a bad feeling ... a sign of immaturity ... Hon. Muscat is quick to allege that his correspondence with Ms. Agius was hacked ... Could a copy of the correspondence come into the wrong hands?
Mark Piscopo
Oct 20th 2011, 06:56
Nathaniel Attard, head of news tal- PN media house jammetti li ghandu f'idejh emails personali ta Joseph Muscat u li kien ha jippublikahom!! TAL BIZA dal-pajjiz fejn wasalna, mela lanqas tibghat email ma tista!! Dan huwa kaz jahraq li jista jwassal ghal hafna rizenji ghax hija ksura tad Data Protection!
A Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 06:44
PL should set up a team to investigate these allegations and send this information to the EU or OSCE. No wonder PN is in power for 20 years!! They are a dictatorship hidden under the umbrella of democracy
Mr Hans Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 06:40
PN apologists are out here en force to justify this alleged serious, dictatorial style, invasion of privacy. Shame on you!
J. Schembri
Oct 20th 2011, 06:27
Quote There was no other explanation other than that this correspondence was acquired through hacking, spying or theft of information from Dr Muscat, the journalist, or both, the PL said.
The PN media had belied the Foreign Minister, who had said that Dr Muscat's allegations were not true .Unquote
There is a very simple explanation to all this:
It’s just another mole in an organisation , like the one which the PL had in RTK’s newsroom. Gmail is not that secure.
It could also be that Joseph or the journalist did a PBO! Shit happens.
George Cremona
Oct 20th 2011, 00:42
Are these the same people that lambasted Peppi Azzopardi and accused him of impartiality? IAra sewwa jghidu li l-ispizjar milli jkollu jghatik.
pat muscat
Oct 19th 2011, 23:39
The State should be neutral; if there is political hacking, those responsible should be taken to court. Hopefully there will be no political excuse for this very serious matter.
Wilfred Camilleri
Oct 19th 2011, 23:32
Is Muscat paranoid or what? Is there a hacker under ever PL mrmbers' bed? lol
Giorgio Schembri
Oct 19th 2011, 23:24
Dr. Muscat........Illum ghandek il mezzi kollha biex jekk VERU ghandek ragun, tmur id- depot tal- Pulizija u titlob li tinfetah investigazzjoni INTI!!! pero ma tridx tieghu ir riskju........Please give us a break!!
Joe Mallia
Oct 19th 2011, 23:19
"Uzani fejn trid Joseph" qaltu s'sinjura Agius. Isa hej kemm hi disponibli l'missis !
M. Zammit
Oct 19th 2011, 23:16
Can someone please tell me how a certain PL Member of Parliament from the Cottonera area sends me sms on my birthday, easter, christmas day and on the feast of my village's patron saint, when I have never been a member of his party. From where did he get this information?
Victor Laiviera
Oct 19th 2011, 22:59
A clear admission that the PN has obtained Muscat's private emails and is using them.
Is there no depth to which they will not sink to cling on to power?
D Farrugia
Oct 19th 2011, 22:47
Nathaniel Attard simply confirmed Joseph Muscat's email was hacked.
Oh and what the hack is all the fuss about by the way???
PN planted journalists all over the place - PBS is a den of PN journalists... So where are exactly the journalists Muscat is planting?
Pull the other one Lawrence Gonzi, will you?
Mr Stephen Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 08:12
Even RTK or Radju Tal-Knisja has an ex-NET TV newscaster as head of News. No wonder the church institution has lost it's credibility here in Malta.
Joe Mallia
Oct 19th 2011, 22:47
I hope labour's secret plans for the next election were not hacked as well. Imagine Karmenu Vella going on about how the nationalists are using his ideas to better the economy.
Andrew Cauchi
Oct 19th 2011, 22:46
Dr Muscat should tell us how his media group has access to the vast numbers of maltese e-mail addresses that it does before he complains about being hacked.
John Borg
Oct 19th 2011, 22:14
If Joseph Muscat's e mail was hacked, I would have expected more juicy bits, not a string with an RTK journalist. It's more like someone forwarded this string to someone else... perhaps by mistake like PBO had done.... But let's hope the PN publishes the e mails and then people will decide if these were in the public interest or not. Joseph Muscat was a former journalist. Would he have published e mails of the leader of the opposition with a journalist?
The big question is, would he now publish such e mails if he gets hold of them? Would he let the party ride on information from e mails? With his holier than though attitude, it seems he won't. But look at how many e mails his party media printed over the past months....
Joseph is only crying foul because he's getting a taste of his party's own medicine.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 19th 2011, 23:14
With ifs and buts and perhaps and maybe and "what if this" and "what if that"£, you can arrive at any conclusion.
Much better to deal with the hard facts. And the hard facts are that the PN media has somehow obtained Muscat's private emails and is shamefully using them.
This s not so different from the "News of the World" debacle that recently rocked the media scene in the UK. There it led to a host of resignations and prosecutions. Are we democratic enough to follow suit?
Joseph Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 05:05
I have seen the alleged copy of the e mails. I got the impression that RTK administration knew what it was doing when it decided on who "not to appoint" as head of newsroom. How could a person who discusses internal matters/problems with third parties expect to be trusted in such a position? Doesn't Ms Agius know the meaning of ethics?
The correspondence also show a request allegedly made by Hon. Muscat to Ms. Agius for Parliamentary Questions to be drafted. The general public should keep in mind the ENORMOUS number of questions posed.The public cannot even imagine the cost of drawing up the information requested. Unless there is a valid reason for asking such questions, then the Members of Parliament making such questions would be squandering taxpayers' money.
Finally, the exchange of correspondence shows that one of Ms. Agius's aims was to earn Mr. Muscat's trust so as to get her a place in Parliament ... "the youngest Minister" she says!... Is this the quality of Members of Parliament which the Labour Party is looking for the future?
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 08:28
Sur Laviera. Do you know the digusting nature of exchange between Agius and Muscat. If you did you would ostracise yourself to Timbuktu out of shame!
Let me see what can be the charges on both these celebrated morons one of whom wants to be a prime minister! Ok putting it mildly espionage
Alfred Dimech
Oct 19th 2011, 21:43
But why doesn't Joseph name the independent papers in question or even better the mysterious people who offered the information?
P.S. Can anyone fill me in on the case where the Muscats' medical records were made public?
Joseph Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 03:41
Yes, this matter of their medical records is news to me too.
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 19th 2011, 21:38
Or is this another cunning plan to divert attention from Hilary Clinton's visit to Malta ? Has the PL at Mile end got a box set of "Blackadder"; so many cunning plans in this series, might come in handy!
Joe Mallia
Oct 19th 2011, 22:52
It's easy to see who gets to be Baldrick !
J Busuttil
Oct 19th 2011, 22:56
Anthony the same is my opinion. First it was Alfred Sant taking over in parlament than William Hague's visit after that Hilary Clinton's visit u to top it up il-pastazata of the talk show Inkontri last Monday on One,
Victor Laiviera
Oct 19th 2011, 23:15
Why should they want to deviate attention from the fact that Clinton stopped in Malta on her way to Libya? Or do you imagine that she came all the way from the USA just to see Gonzi?
How amusing.
Victor Laiviera
Oct 20th 2011, 08:15
Why should anyone want to divert attention away from the fact that Clinton stopped in Malta on her way to Libya?
I trust you don't imagine she came all the way from the USA just to see Lawrence Gonzi?
How amusing.
David Caruana
Oct 19th 2011, 21:37
If JM is serious about his allegations, he should get his own professionals to check if his PC or e-mail are being hacked and if any telephones are being tapped. I, for one, would not trust an investigation held by the same authority which is being accused. This, potentially, is like telling a murderer to investigate his own crime!
JM, it's about time that you stop throwing hot air and put your money where your mouth is. Computer misuse and tapping of telephones is illegal, but it takes a whole new uglier dimension if this is done by the party in Government to damage the opposition. I hope you realise how serious your allegations are.
Therefore I beg you, for the love of our country, you either come out with sound proof or else just shut up. Throwing allegations and then expecting something sound coming out from the investigation done by the accused party does not make sense and it's only another occasion for the PN to make you sound like a mad man and a newbie politician.
I'm not saying that your allegations are not true. I'm only asking you, to come out with the smoking gun.
Mr Andrew Grech
Oct 20th 2011, 08:23
Mr. Caruana,
your's is the best comment by far and i thank you for it.
Reading the above article for a moment i actually started to lose my sense of security and privacy. What you say is true, what has been reported is very serious in nature, and as you said Dr. Muscat should check his computer systems and either confirm or disprove the allegations. Anything else would be deceitful.
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 08:45
I could'nt agree more David, this if proven would be a Killer to the Govt, even though they will get someone not important enough to take the fall for this.
Joseph does not need to come out Guns Blazing but be like a sniper hidden and camoflaged but when he has a shot he must take it..
Alfred Bugeja
Oct 19th 2011, 21:36
Dr. Muscat's conspiracy theory has more holes than a piece of emmenthal cheese.
Doesn't he realise that once he sent the email to another domain (the RTK one in this case), that email is no longer in the control of MITA's systems and is now out in the open? Does he know what security measures RTK has in place on its mail server or lack thereof? Could Sabrina Agius have left her email account open accidentally for other prying eyes to see? Could she have left her password written somewhere? Could RTK's mail servers been hacked?
Had he thought of these fairly elementary possibilities, Dr Muscat could have avoided making an absolute fool of himself in Parliament today.
Alexander Brincat
Oct 20th 2011, 05:56
In either case, isn't that still hacking?
David Spiteri
Oct 20th 2011, 07:40
Finally an intelligent comment!!!!
Well done.... I can maybe say that you have finally convinced me that i may as well keep my faith on the maltese gem gem!
Brian Gatt
Oct 20th 2011, 08:52
Will someone please enlighten me, If Dr Muscat or the journalist Ms Agius did not willingly give out their correspondence, any other method it was obtained by is ILLEGAL, then an investigation should be launched and the culprits apprehended. So please everyone stop B****ing and trying to find excuses for a comitted crime.God Forbid If it was the other way round each and everyone of will be screaming murder
J Cassar
Oct 19th 2011, 21:24
For the sake of this country I hope that Mr.Muscat is mistaken...
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 19th 2011, 21:21
And how did the PL at the Mile End get my email address to send me regular emails when I never subscribed to their mailing list ?
By the way even JPO and Evarist Bartolo jumped to the conclusion that their phones were tapped at the height of the divorce referendum campaign.
Don't they know that in Malta bush-telegraph has been alive and kicking for ages!
lilly vella
Oct 19th 2011, 21:51
the same way i receive from pn.
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 19th 2011, 21:13
Muscat you are in such a mess that you are clutching at straws big time!
Daniel Dimech
Oct 20th 2011, 07:23
int bis serjeta...... nispera li 3 snin ohra mhux insiru nafu li kellu ragun ghax vera inkunu qed nghixu l'era tal ktieb 1984 jew inkella bil-Biza' f'darek
Mr Joe Micallef
Oct 20th 2011, 08:22
Hallina Daniel! Inti tighx bil "nispera" jiena le. Din storjella ohra ta' Muscat biex ittafi il-pastazata tal-programm Inkontri fuq One u jahbi l'inkompetenza grassa tieghu.
lilly vella
Oct 19th 2011, 20:52
risposti please, u ghal darba investigazzjoni serja.
Mary Ann Borg
Oct 19th 2011, 21:51
Issa tigi r-risposta sinjorina Vella. Fl'elezzjoni li jmiss, bhal ma gara fl'87, 92, 98, 2003 u 2008. Stenniha naqra ohra u tigi. Investigazzjoni serja ssir, bhal ma saret ta' Nardu Debono, Lorry Sant u Raymond Caruana.
A. Xuereb
Oct 19th 2011, 22:54
sinjura maryann borg: jigifieri inti qed takkuza l pn hux hekk li qatt m ghamel investigazzjoni serja fuq dawn il-kazi?ghax huma ilhom fil gvern naqra sew hux hekk sinjura mary ann borg?
Jurgen Farrugia
Oct 19th 2011, 20:47
Then Dr.Muscat I know you have the desency to explain to me why I receive letters signed by you from your party,the last one was before the divorce referendum stating "you can't vote because of PN" and I receive e-mails from your party even tough I have never been a member of PL/MLP.And this by not including the fact that super one acquires personal information on PN members and airs this on One News.And all this by being an opposition party leader.
Thankyou,
Jurgen Farrugia
mario gellel
Oct 19th 2011, 20:43
I HAVE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS NOW. WE ARE ADMINISTRATED BY A REGIME HIDDEN UNDER A DEMOCRATIC UMBRELLA. WE ASK THE EU TO TAKE FULL NOTICE AND SEND OBSERVERS OF WHAT IS BEING PLANNED BY THIS ARROGANT,POWER HACKER AND ILLEGITIMATE PN GOVERNMENT FOR THE COMMING NATIONAL ELECTIONS. (OUTDATED I.D. CARDS, FALSE VOTING VOTES, ABUSIVE NATIONAL BROADCASTING TO NAME THE LEAST)
Anthony Galea
Oct 19th 2011, 21:25
Don't shout :(
Anthony Farrugia
Oct 19th 2011, 21:32
Why "illegitimate" ? After all, free elections were held in 2008 ? So what are you grousing about ?
Mr Steve Cassar
Oct 19th 2011, 21:47
1 - l-gvern li hemm telgha ghax l-maggoranza ghazel hekk ... so mhux illegitmu
2 - tuzax caps
3 - l-voti foloz storja inventat mil-PL biex idawwru l-attenzjoni u jhammgu
4 - Abbuz mil-Pbs? Mela insejt fi zmien l-labour fejn qas isem EFA ma setgha jisemma jew gazzetta qas tikeb 'Nazzjon" ma setghet? u xandir malta juri l-arma tal-mlp?
5 - Allahares malta qieghda mmexija min regime .. hares lejn l-Iran u kif kien Ghaddafi u ara x'differenza!
Pat Hobson
Oct 19th 2011, 23:01
@Steve Cassar.
- Abbuz mil-Pbs? Mela insejt fi zmien l-labour fejn qas isem EFA ma setgha jisemma jew gazzetta qas tikeb 'Nazzjon" ma setghet? u xandir malta juri l-arma tal-mlp?-
That case only last for only 2-3 days. No use getting hoarse about it.
A. Mizzi
Oct 19th 2011, 20:24
The MITTS password hacking saga continues......!
Malta Big Brother 2011 ids not only watching you, but listening in and hacking e-mails!
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"The most common characteristic of all police states is intimidation by surveillance. Citizens know they are being watched and overheard. Their mail is being examined. Their homes can be invaded."
-- Vance Packard
(1914-1996) American journalist, social critic, and author
Source: The People Shapers, 1977
Joseph Borg
Oct 20th 2011, 06:58
Tghaggilx sur Vella ... x'immaginazzjoni fertili ... Xi prova ghandek li dan kollu jinvolvi "MITTS password hacking"?
Joseph Grima
Oct 19th 2011, 20:12
Time we looked into telephone tapping of citizens too
J. Schembri
Oct 19th 2011, 20:08
"The case he was speaking about now, Dr Muscat said, had to be seen in the context that Sabrina Agius had filed a case alleging political discrimination by RTK, which preferred to engage a former PN journalist as head of news.”
Wasn’t Maria Muscat a Super One journalist who was engaged with RTK and who now is with PBS? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Wasn’t Gino Cauchi a PBS journalist ?
Why is Dr Muscat pushing RTK in the political arena and trying to discredit an independent , highly impartial and fair Radio station and posing as the victim when we all know how certain people are permanent guests on shows and introduced to the listeners as “observers”,MrManuel Michallef, Carmen Sammut and Mr Joe Vella Bonnici immediately come to mind. RTK cannot say in public why it chose one and not the other , because by doing so it would be divulging confidential information which is exactly about what Dr Muscat is complaining under the protection of the parliamentary privilege.
In other words a catch twenty two!
Noel Abela
Oct 19th 2011, 20:27
x.ghandu xjaqsam jew terid iddahhak
Mario allison
Oct 19th 2011, 20:50
i couldnt stop laughing at your opinion.the church station ..indipendent? Lol llol lol .the maltese church was,is and never will be indipendent
Mr Eric Gahn
Oct 19th 2011, 20:05
This is disgusting. It is disgusting if PN does it and will be disgusting if PL ever resort to it.
Giovann Demartino
Oct 19th 2011, 20:02
U iva dawn in-nies jafu jew ma jfux jisthu. DAWN, proprju DAWN jitkellmu fuq id-demokrazija. Dawn li kienui wassluna f'xifer dittatorjat kiefer. DAWN jithaddtu fuq id-demokrazija? Dawn li kienu sallbuna f'kull sens? Dawn li miskin hu min jissogra jiftah halqu ghax jihduh id-depot biex taparsi jinterrogawh u jbiccruh u anki johorguh mejjet. Dawn jafu x'inhuma jghidu. m SUR LAIVIERA u jekk dak li xehdet Daphne jirrizulta li hu veru...INT xi tghid?
pat muscat
Oct 19th 2011, 19:59
Desperate times demand desperate measures; GonziPN is looking into the abyss!
Daniela Caruana
Oct 19th 2011, 19:58
Now I understand Austin Gatt's declaration that PN will win for another 20 years!!!!
Clayton Bezzina
Oct 19th 2011, 19:49
Ma nistax nemmen li wasalna s'aw. Jekk dil-haga hija vera u mhux xi zball, mela l-PN sammru musmar iehor fit-tebut taghhom!!
Victor Laiviera
Oct 19th 2011, 19:47
Who knows - maybe in a few years' time the Libyans will have to help US fight for democracy.
Giovann Demartino
Oct 19th 2011, 19:58
We did that in the 70's and 80's. And I WAS THERE!
Joe Mallia
Oct 19th 2011, 20:14
You should be posting on Maltastar mate. You burned this newspaper remember !
Maria Rosaria Schembri
Oct 19th 2011, 20:21
Mr.Tabone
Dak hu sinjal tajjeb ghax tal PN bill problemi li ghandu il pajjis jorqdu illejl kolla dawk tal LP ghalmenu ftakru fik
A. Tabone
Oct 19th 2011, 19:47
Can Dr. Muscat explain why I keep on receiving Happy Birthday greetings from his MPs, on government paper, with parliamentary paid postage and envelopes? Isn't it like wishing a happy birthday to myself, paid from my taxes?
A. Tabone
Oct 19th 2011, 19:59
And isn't his MPs holding that kind of information a breach of my privacy, to boot? Is there a database I should be made aware of? Maybe, just maybe, I can unsubscribe, as it were.
Mr Eric Gahn
Oct 19th 2011, 20:04
Dear Mr Tabone; I receive birthday cards from PL MP's even though I am not a member of the party. Contrary to PN MP's who only send correspondence when election time comes. The big benefit of this is that I know where I can contact my PL MP's but with the exception of one PN MP who lives nearby I do not know who the rest are let alone how I may contact them if I need to adress an issue with them. So Joseph tell your guys to keep 'em coming....and belated happy birthdays and early Xmas greetings to you all as I do not reciprocate in kind normally.
M Mamo
Oct 20th 2011, 01:31
you know who to contact? for what? your home needs a new television and want the minister to get you one from Sicily ... stop being ridiculous now ... and thanks Joseph for reminding me I celebrated my 18th birthday (in a belated letter just a few weeks before the Divorce referendum) and that now I can vote ... thank god you reminded me!
Stefan Enge
Oct 19th 2011, 19:46
Just encrypt your email!
Mr Martin Vella
Oct 19th 2011, 20:53
Whose arrogance? Joseph Muscat's?
J Cutajar
Oct 19th 2011, 19:41
IS THERE A LIMIT FOR THEIR ARROGANCE?!?!
Clayton Bezzina
Oct 19th 2011, 19:40
If this is confirmed, we've hit rock bottom. Who do these bullies think they are?!?!
Can't believe that it's the PN who's taken us back to the 80s!!
mark borg
Oct 19th 2011, 21:08
Why is everyone obsessed and brainwashed with the 80's and 70's : These brainwashed PN apologists should mention the 60's when Malta was thanks to them a fundamentalist state ! The 70's and 80's brought social reforms that all Maltese from all walks of life benefited, so stop trying to put cobwebs even in todays youngsters, because if you want to put back the clock,take it back to the 60's when people were still begging and living in SLUMS thanks to the PN Govt .
J. Schembri
Oct 19th 2011, 19:38
"Clearly, Dr Muscat said, this correspondence had been acquired in an illicit and illegal manner. Somebody had either hacked his correspondence, that of Ms Agius, or both.”
It’s not at all clear; I recall when Dr Paul Borg Olivier clicked the wrong address or button , I had friends who had their correspondence stored in their computers sent to all addresses inside their computer. There were people who entered their friend’s room and sent pictures from the laptop to third parties. And there could be moles in the PL like in any other organisation.
The choice of possibilities is wider than Dr Muscat wants us to believe.
Zagroma Savrene
Oct 19th 2011, 19:34
Both the PL and PN do things "under the radar". It's all about how both of them play their cards and brainwashes the public. All about who can get the most puppets to clap and cheer and vote for them the most in the next election.
Mr Mario Paul Ellul
Oct 19th 2011, 19:27
So, Dr Muscat and the PL,
how can you explain that my Gov.mt email is used by your party and by your MEPs and MP's to send propaganda and info and newsletters WITHOUT the my consent and without I had ever given you my address??? Is this not the same thing?? is this not private/govt database info that is in your possession WITHOUT MY or the GOVT's authority???
Please explain!!!
Deo Catania
Oct 19th 2011, 19:53
Int taf x'qed tghid jew?minn meta email address gov.mt sar top secret? hallina kwieti, kulhadd mohhu biex jilaq. Il-junk mail kif tidhol allura? dik tkun spjegazzjoni nteressanti.
Ramon Casha
Oct 19th 2011, 20:56
No, it's not the same thing. Spam is also wrong but this is a very different and much more serious allegation.
Mr Mario Paul Ellul
Oct 19th 2011, 21:29
I do regard it as 'spam' (sic) but it is the same - having my data at the PL headquarters mean that there is someone that 'stole' the address from MITA or other government department or source and gave it to the PL!!!! ... also, I did not subscribe to any PL related news letter etc ... thus this may constitute to harassment also!.
Mr Steve Cassar
Oct 19th 2011, 21:48
Not to mention that they send letters with envelopes of the GM so that they dont pay a cent to Maltapost!
Lawrence Attard
Oct 19th 2011, 22:34
So do you seriously think that opening and spying your mail is the same as sending you an e mail which you can choose to ignore immediately???
I appreciate you have your political views, but they can really distort your thinking at times....
Mr Mario Paul Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 07:49
Mr Attard,
spying is one thing - and as this case emerged is indicating that someone internal handed over the emails - and using govt info and data base for the benefit of propaganda is another thing that has its weight equal to the above. having the access to govt database may lead to knowing what is going on in the same emails!!!!
Lawrence Attard
Oct 20th 2011, 10:32
So do you sincerely want us to believe that if i get to know your home address and start sending you some mail is on the same level as opening and watching your mail???!
I think there is a big difference, both should not happen, but spying is by far the worst from both...
Mr Mario Paul Ellul
Oct 20th 2011, 14:39
come on Lawrence, I am saying that not the sending as such is the worst thing, but FROM WHERE and HOW they got the source ie the email address!!
joseph saliba
Oct 19th 2011, 19:18
Let truth prevail. EVER.
Mr Lawrence Calleja
Oct 19th 2011, 19:17
Looks like Muscat wants to hide facts and therefore is starting a campaign to be looked at as a victim. Joseph Muscat, please understand that your tactics are so obvious and outdated.
N. Agius
Oct 19th 2011, 19:21
Mr Calleja would you like any one to hack you?
Have you ever heard of the term confidential?
Do you think Dr Gonzi or Tonio Fenech make every idea they have public?
You have to grow up...
John Borg
Oct 19th 2011, 19:08
What did Joseph Muscat say when l-Orizzont ran a series of stories about the BWSC case? That information was all taken from E mails.
This call for investigation shows that for Joseph Muscat, it's OK when things are done by Labour leaning media but not ok when they are done by others.
It is interesting that Joseph Muscat said he had encouraged a journalist to apply to work at The Times or PBS. Only this week Labour kicked up a whole fuss about wanting PBS independent!
R Abela
Oct 19th 2011, 20:03
And please tell us what is wrong in wanting PBS (paid by out tax money) to be independent?