Hunters file judicial protest on bird trapping
The Federation for Hunting and Conservation (FKNK) has filed a Judicial Protest against the Prime Minister over his failure to declare an open autumn/winter season for the live-capture of turtle doves, quails, golden plovers and song thrushes. According to recommendations by the Malta Ornis Committee, the season should have opened on September 1 and continued to January10.
The FKNK protested that the trappers had paid/renewed their trapping licences and they were now suffering damages.
It insisted that the trappers have a legal right to live-capture unprotected species between September and January.
When these members paid their respective licences, there were no indications that they would be prevented from trapping these species, so much so, that in each personal trapper's Carnet de Chasse it is clearly stated that the trapper was being granted the permission to trap those particular species, the FKNK said.
Therefore the FKNK said it was formally requested the Prime Minister to open this trapping season for the four specie forthwith.
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Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
Oct 14th 2011, 14:46
Louis Joseph Borg, NONSENSE is when one refers to a different topic from the one being discussed. I just cannot comprehend how a sensible individual decides to defend such nonsense! Can you distinguish between hunting and trapping OR are YOU "so blind eyed"? Finally, who do you think you are to judge others who choose to practise their hobby within the parameters of the law?! Have you ever heard of the words respect and tolerance? Whether you like it or not, the many Maltese law-abiding hunters are currently enjoying their Autumn hunting season, ignoring your comments in the process!!!
Kevin Crisp
Oct 14th 2011, 01:11
Well its about time the Prime Minister stood up for himself and his party in support of bird conservation. do I see some civilization returning to the island! It will be a delight to be able to walk around the countryside without coming across a net surrounded by tiny cages with small birds trapped in them every hundred metres. Is it about time the minority did not win the vote after all we are living in a democracy.With changing times there are so many other pass times to enjoy other than hunting and trapping.I think the hunters have done enough damage to the stork population already this year. I think one for birds here and conservation.About time!!
Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
Oct 13th 2011, 19:39
TO ALL THOSE WRITING NONSENSE BELOW:- Here we are discussing TRAPPING and not HUNTING!!! The hunting season is open and all the shots heard come from Maltese hunters practising their pastime withing THE PARAMETERS OF THE LAW!!! Wow, your extremism is blinding you so much, making you unable to comprehend what is being reported!
LOUIS JOSEPH BORG
Oct 14th 2011, 10:19
nonsense is someone that wakes up in the early morning to kill or trap defencless birds!
what with the parameters of law?
well you are so blind eyed or you do not live in malta !
Matthew Dimech
Oct 13th 2011, 19:36
I believe that trapping and hunting might be a problem but the real problem is that MEPA is giving permits blind folded such case is:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20111012/local/outline-permit-granted-for-supermarket-on-virgin-land-near-xewkija-faa.388855#.TpXeTnil4Bo.facebook
and nothing is done about it ... these things are damaging the land, trees etc and so birds and other animals have no place to live in and nest!
C Mallia
Oct 13th 2011, 19:00
The answer is simple. When you pay for something in which you do not get a service or benefit from - stop paying it, ask for a refund, then shut up! The government cannot guarantee anymore when the EU is stopping him everytime or may lead to another court case. Are these 4000 trappers willing to also pay the court fees which may ensue or that would be paid by the remaining 396,000 of the population?
S. BONAVIA
Oct 14th 2011, 20:01
Ghandek zball kbir ma tafx xqed tejd
Alfred Fenech
Nov 27th 2011, 08:48
Thats funny... The EU never stopped the 500euros per week during this belt tightening period.
Tony Berkeley
Oct 13th 2011, 18:54
For all those who disagree that hunting and trapping is inhuman - I am truly sad. I may live in the UK but I'm Maltese, and wrong is wrong in whatever country it is practises. As is most common in Malta, on moral questions (to kill/trap or not to kill/trap) one should organise a referendum !! Hunting is wrong because one kills God's creatures and they certainly are rarely eaten. Trapping is just as bad - why should one trap and imprison a wild bird which God meant to fly around freely ? I cannot think my argument will be converting anyone who hunts/trap, but one can only hope. Just imagine if one is migrating to another country he/she is captured an imprisoned for life. I sure you would not like that to happen to you.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 14th 2011, 19:49
Why don't you organize a referendum in the UK we have had a lot of them over here!! You said that "Hunting is wrong because one kills God's creatures and they certainly are rarely eaten."Try and convince the thousands if not millions who eat quails,doves,woodcocks,partriges,ducks,geese,pheasants and the list is endless and you say that is rarely eaten,I am starting to think that you truely live in outer space and do not know what is happening in this world of ours.
Joseph J Camilleri
Oct 13th 2011, 15:13
Since the closed seasons or whatever they are called I have enjoyed seeing many different species of birds,which I haven't seen for ages, in my terrace where I have some bushes and small trees.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 16:28
Mela din s-sena beda l-close season?, jew din s-sena l-ewwel li hrigt minn quddiem l-computer? ,jien innutajt giraffa min mindu beda l-close season u ma l-areal tal-gar hemm xadina.LOL!!!!
Joseph Calleja
Oct 13th 2011, 14:46
Wouldn't it be more beneficial if the Federation for Hunting and Conservation (FKNK) has filed a Judicial Protest against the Prime Minister for the incompetence and inefficiency of the Arriva bus system? I think they will have a better response.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 16:29
Biex Austin jejdilna li qed jorqod trankwill !!!!!
G Caruana
Oct 13th 2011, 13:19
There's always some dumb excuse, if it's not about licences it's about psychiatric disorders, if its not that it's about electoral promises, just refund their licence & tell them it's over once & for all, it's not fair to keep them living in high hopes when it's more than obvious it's on the way out.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 14th 2011, 19:55
Habib xejn ma hu skuza,jien ghandi siehbi mejjet ok fuq dan s suggett u kien ghadu kemm ghalaq l-40,minjaf kieku xi hadd jihodlok dik ix-xi haga li thobb taghmel (jekk ghandek) x taghmel,ghalhekk tparlax jekk ma tafx xikun qed jigri madwarek.
Mr Joe Camilleri
Oct 13th 2011, 12:53
To all the :
- antis,
- moaners,
- gullibles,
- do not know the difference between hunting and trapping
- do not know that the hunting season is open etc etc
Take a look at this link http://forum.huntinginmalta.org.mt//YaBB.pl?num=1318500865
Mr Emanuel Curmi
Oct 13th 2011, 12:11
I am pleased that trapping is no longer allowed and I am sincerely hoping that hunting will follow suit in due course but it is illogical paying a trapping licence for a priviledge that is no longer legally allowed.
The FKNK case should, however, revolve around a reimbursement of these fees rather than using it as an excuse to reopen a Bird Trapping season which contravene standing EU Directives. Quoting the Malta Ornis Committee, a dubious Authority set up by this Administration, is simply rubbing more salt in the wounds of everybody concerned.
After all not everybody is sitting behind a desk and not everyone is prepared to stick their heads in the sand and ignore the frenzied shooting going on in our countryside. It may be legal but utterly disgusting all the same especially watching the maimed starlings and thrushes trying desperately to avoid the barrage of lead coming from all sides. Tradition indeed. Its nothing but institulized killing.
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 13th 2011, 13:50
institutionalized killing that is regulated by EU directives and perfectly acceptable to millions that practice it and several other millions that support it.
After all so is abortion "institutionalized killing" and many millions find that acceptable too.
It takes all sorts to make a world, your sort and mine included!!!
What you find disgusting others cherish. Ever thought of eating a dog? The Koreans find it a delicacy. Personally I would rather stick to eating birds and leave you to carry on feeling disgusted.
Emanuel Curmi
Oct 13th 2011, 16:01
@Mark Mifsud Bonnici
The subject is neither abortion nor the Korean eating habits. And I bet you have never eaten a Starling Pie in your life.
Malta is continually striving to become more cultured & civilized nation and opening the public's eye to what is going on in our countryside in the pretense of hunting traditions in Malta will one day urge public opinion to finally force our politicians to act.
Raping what's left of our already depleted natural legacy by the few to satisfy their selfish needs has to stop, the same way we have to start curbing the uncontrolled exploitation of our acquifer. After all it's only water but it doesn't mean that it automatically belongs to those with boreholes in their backyard.
Your contributions have always reflected the general attitude of the hunting fraternity and your 'me first and to hell with everybody else' responses will not exactly endear your addictions with joe public.
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 14th 2011, 09:41
Emmanuel Curmi.
As long as hunting is within legal parameters there is no reason why it should be stopped even more so when it is not in any other EU state.
As for 'me first and to hell with everybody else'. Do you consider your sort of opposition to deserve anything less? You ignore the thousands of hunters that abide by the law and generalize that hunting should be stopped because of the actions of a few. So my attitude as "to hell with everybody else" refers specifically to you and your sort of irrational blabber mouths.
Tony Berkeley
Oct 13th 2011, 11:50
Some people are either stupid or plain stupid. Stupid if they cannot understand that the world deplores the capturing, trapping, hunting or killing - call it what you want of wild birds. They were put there to be enjoyed by everyone. Plain stupid if they cannot understand the the EU of which Malta is a member is trying to discourage this vile practice which they call a hobby. Wake up boys, you are living in the past.
H. Galea
Oct 13th 2011, 13:45
@Tony Berkeley
Thanks for the silver lining! - perhaps you will allow me to modify the recommended classification. As I see it, it appears that the following might be slightly more appropriate: Big Moron (in the Big Brother sense), Medium Moron and Mini Moron.
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 13th 2011, 14:00
STUPID CONSIDERING YOU WRITE ON BEHALF OF "THE WORLD".
PLAIN STUPID because the same EU you mentioned states in its directives that capturing, trapping, hunting or killing is possible according to its own directives that regulate such practices.
Does "the world" deplore angling? Since there is absolutely no difference between a catch of fish or birds since they both end up being eaten. why do you discriminate against hunting?
PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF ALL FORMS OF STUPIDITY.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 16:33
So why your country I suppose UK hunting goes on and tourists encouraged to go there for hunting,maybe I live in the past which is better than today but you my friend live in outer space and do not know what is happening exactly in this wrold of ours.
S Vella
Oct 14th 2011, 07:39
@ Tony Birkeley
To confirm what S Bonavia said take a look at these hunting tours around Europe Mr Intellectual since you are addressing the stupid!!
http://www.eurosafari.com/
http://www.huntineurope.com/us/
http://www.eurohunt.co.uk/
http://www.adventuretraveltips.com/Hunting/Europe/index.html
http://www.safariinternational.com/en/
http://www.fieldforest.co.uk/europe-hunting-tours/
....and if you search the internet you find much more!
Mario Farrugia
Oct 13th 2011, 11:41
I can't help but write about some comments by some bloggers here.....
Can't you, for once, write something sensible?
For example:
@ Mr. M Mamo, Mrs Maria Vella, B Sant, Charles Vella and the whole lot of you...
Did you notice it's all about TRAPPING before you set down to write against hunting??
@ Mr Steve Cassar
Specify countryside, please? You mean trespassing on my private property, like most of your so called "bird lovers" love to do? Let's make a deal, you and I... you come "enjoy" the surroundings on my land... and I come to "enjoy" the surroundings in your living room, or any other room for that matter. How about it?
@ Mr Christian Brincat
thank you for a sensible, logical statement. Good to know that there are, indeed, reasonable people about.
Mr Steve Cassar
Oct 13th 2011, 13:23
I never mentioned private land ... that's a lame excuse!
Go to mizieb and see for yourself!
P Buħaġiar
Oct 13th 2011, 11:39
Hunters file judicial protest on bird trapping.
For all those who are posting comments, Bird Trapping is not practised by Hunters. Hunters does not pay licences for bird trapping. Bird Trapping licences is limited for those who already have Bird trapping licence, and since way back 2002 the issue of new Bird trapping licence was freezed. The FKNK is only asking why the authorities, is permiting the shooting of Turtle dove, Quails, Song Trush and Golden Plovers and not applying the derogation which was promised far more than that to capture alive the mentioned four species.
For those who knows well, Hunters and Bird trappers were promised far more, before people went to vote for the 2003 referendum, and the general election, black on white, therefore the joining of the EU was based on *stolen* votes and Malta joining EU, must be declared as void.
S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 14:05
So true Mr Buhagiar
For those who forgot
http://kaccaturi.com/eddie.html
Simon Oosterman
Oct 13th 2011, 11:37
The FKNK has a point. Making people pay for a license that one cannot use makes no sense. But the FKNK is asking for the wrong remedy. They should ask that the trappers get their license fees back and the government should agree to do so. That is a fair solution.
Next hunting should be banned within earshot of all dwellings before 07.30 and the hunting license fee reduced a bit.
Mr M Mamo
Oct 13th 2011, 10:29
Season is not open? here it is worse than Libya, hearing shot from 6 am up till 12 and then again in the afternoon ... CONSTANTLY!
Mr John J Borg
Oct 13th 2011, 11:27
hunting season is open ....trapping season is not...understand now my friend
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 13th 2011, 11:40
Wake up Mr. Mamo as it seem the "CONSTANT SHOTS" HAVE HAD NO EFFECT DOING SO.
The article concerns the live trapping of birds just in case you haven't read it.
And shots from 6 am up till 12 and then again in the afternoon ... CONSTANTLY! ARE ALL LEGALLY POSSIBLE.
SO BEFORE WRITING NONSENSE DO GET INFORMED ON WHAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE YOUR DOORSTEP AND BEYOND YOU IMAGINATION.
Mr Steve Cassar
Oct 13th 2011, 10:02
Can I sue the government? Due to hunting we can't enjoy the country side?
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 10:22
iddahaqx ta,ghax jistaw ifittxu lilek jekk tidhol fi propjeta privata tiehu pjacir xi hadd jidhollok fi hwejgek int? u fuq propjeta tal gvern jekk mix mikrija lil xi hadd tista tmur kemm trid bhal ma naghmel jien,
B Sant
Oct 13th 2011, 10:42
its either hunters or fireworks facotry in the country side - not to mention ODZ
Mr Andrea Damato
Oct 13th 2011, 11:29
YOUR countryside Mr.Steve Cassar?????? Tell us please how much you have paid to buy or lease YOUR land????? as we hunters and trappers did !!!!!!!! I am not referring to public land, that's just public and can be enjoyed by everyone , so no one is preventing you to go walking in PUBLIC land but just stick to that i.e public land and don't pretend you trespass on privatley owned hunter's/trapper's land !!!!
Mr Steve Cassar
Oct 13th 2011, 11:45
S. BONAVIA mur sal-mizieb ... meta kont zghir dejjem hemm fil-weekends fix-xitwa ma tal-familja
issa qas tazzarda tersaq ghax hlief PTO ma ssibx! hekk sew?
U mind you ... ma kontx qed nirreferi ghal propjeta privata imma propjeta pubblika!
thallatx biex tipprova tiehu ragun!
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 13th 2011, 11:47
Nobody is stopping you from doing so. Try proving that whilst thousands of people roam the countryside whenever they please you are not able to.
indeed some of those thousands are hunters and their right to enjoy the countryside is equal to yours.
If you have a valid case I will try being elected as the next Pope!!!
Mr Steve Cassar
Oct 13th 2011, 13:25
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Are you sure? Try to go to mizieb when there is no hunting ... roads closed with gates
people shouting at us to leave because mizieb is owned by the hunters!
Yeah i'm enjoying the PUBLIC LAND owned by the government (FKNK)
S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 14:13
@Steve Cassar
Bl-istess argument sur Cassar il-Buskett inholoq propjament ghal kacca, mela allura ahna l-kaccaturi ghaliex m'ghandniex dritt nikkacjaw hemm ukoll meta jkun stagun miftuh? Nassigurak li huwa wiehed mill awqa postijiet ghal kacca. Inti l-buskett ghandek kull dritt dgawdieh mal familja imma jien ma nistghax ingawdih imqarr sal-10am ghal kacca.
Nixtieq ninfurmak ukoll li l-Mizieb alla hares ma kienux il kaccaturi taht l-amministrazzjoni tal FKNK li jiehdu hsieb inaddfuh, specjalment mill hmieg li jhallu warajhom il-familji li joghgobhom jitilghu hemm, u jizbru s-sigar u jaqtghu il-haxix hazin, ghax kieku s-sigar ilhom li ghalqu go xulxin u bil mizbla li jhallu warjhom il-pubbliku fosthom anki fdalijiet ta nirien meta jaghmlu BBQ's u jqacctu l-frieghi tas-sigar, niggarantilek li ma tersaqx l'hemm.
Fil-pajjiz biex ikun hawn bilanc hawn riservi fejn il-kaccatur ma jistghax jidhol u hawn postijiet ohra fejn wiehed jista jipprattika d-delizzju tal-kacca, u kieku kullhadd ikun tolleranti u civilizzat, kullhadd igawdi l-ftit li ghandna.
S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 15:16
@Steve Cassar
Bl-istess argument sur Cassar il-Buskett inholoq propjament ghal kacca, mela allura ahna l-kaccaturi ghaliex m'ghandniex dritt nikkacjaw hemm ukoll meta jkun stagun miftuh? Nassigurak li huwa wiehed mill awqa postijiet ghal kacca. Inti l-buskett ghandek kull dritt dgawdieh mal familja imma jien ma nistghax ingawdih imqarr sal-10am ghal kacca.
Nixtieq ninfurmak ukoll li l-Mizieb alla hares ma kienux il kaccaturi taht l-amministrazzjoni tal FKNK li jiehdu hsieb inaddfuh, specjalment mill hmieg li jhallu warajhom il-familji li joghgobhom jitilghu hemm, u jizbru s-sigar u jaqtghu il-haxix hazin, ghax kieku s-sigar ilhom li ghalqu go xulxin u bil mizbla li jhallu warjhom il-pubbliku fosthom anki fdalijiet ta nirien meta jaghmlu BBQ's u jqacctu l-frieghi tas-sigar, niggarantilek li ma tersaqx l'hemm.
Fil-pajjiz biex ikun hawn bilanc hawn riservi fejn il-kaccatur ma jistghax jidhol u hawn postijiet ohra fejn wiehed jista jipprattika d-delizzju tal-kacca, u kieku kullhadd ikun tolleranti u civilizzat, kullhadd igawdi l-ftit li ghandna.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 15:37
@Mr.steve cassar li kieku l-mizieb ma jiehdux hsiebu l-kaccaturi kieku lanqas ghadu jezizti,min tahseb inaddfu int ? ma nahsibx li int ta,taf ghalfejn hemm l-gates,ghax kieku jkun hemm xi hadd bla kuxjenza lejn n-natura u jitfa xi kocc radam u zibel,taf kemm il-tunellata skart tigbor l-fknk mill-mizieb mur fl-ahhar tas-sajf u tkun taf,u kemm jizabru sigar taf,biex int l-hadd wara nofsinhar tkun tista taghddi minn bejn s-sigar trankwill u wara tikteb fuq t-times li ma jhallukx tgawdi l-kampanja,xtippretendi li tmur hal far waqt tigrija tal-karozzi u toqod iddur bir-rota fin-nofs,u jekk twegga lil min se tfittex int l-ewwel wiehed,wara li tkun qied fpost hazin fhin hazin,l-ahhar nixtieq nejdlek,ara tmurx xi post tal-bird life u ma thallax jekk jirnexxielek taghaddi mill-"Fence" tal-anqas ahna gates andna u tista taghddi minn ma gendhom .GHalhekk ejd grazzi lil FKNK u L-kaccaturi li jipprovdulek post xieraq fejn tgawdi l-kampanja mal-familja l-hadd wara nofsinhar habib,mhux tipprova twahhal stallett lil min jejnek isthi jekk taf
Ms Maria Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 09:56
And other places, hunting is going on indiscriminately - if they enjoy shooting so much perhaps they should go to Libya or Afghanistan - they can shoot there as much as they like....oh no wait - in Libya and Afghanistan the targets fight back
Mr S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 10:12
Why not?
we are hunting species that can be hunted, so we are licenced to do so, after all hunting is practised in all EU countries and all over the world. Can you tell me what is wrong with that??
I wouldnt compare the way you did because that is an offence to the Libyan community residing in Malta.
People there are fighting for their freedom so let us not make silly comparisons.
Ms Maria Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 11:33
There was no offence meant to the Libyan community far from it - they are as you rightly said fighting for their freedom
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 13th 2011, 11:55
Just to let you know hunters do not shoot people. We leave this up to NATO and it financing of weaponry to ENJOY killing people like yourself and I.
If you think birds are defenceless why do you think God gave them wings? He did the same with Gaddafi's men, giving them legs to run as fast as they can.
As for fighting back do the cows, pigs, chickens and other farmed animals all confined and restrained by mankind have a similar chance to hunted birds?
B Sant
Oct 13th 2011, 09:52
i thought it was already open........ at Mgarr and L-Imselliet the shooting is countinuous from early morning till afternoon . passing through the valley at imselliet one can easily see hunters with shotguns around and hearing recording equipment to attract birds....
Julien Cachia
Oct 13th 2011, 09:58
cirb trappin not killing - bil malti tonsob
Mr M Grima
Oct 13th 2011, 10:15
Ara vera hawn erba min-nies ma jifhmu f'xejn. L-ewwel nett l-artiklu fuq l-insib u t-tieni IVA l-istagun miftuh u l-isparar fuq l-imlievez (song trush) qed issir li huwa legali u mhux fuq il-huttaf kif qalu certu nies!!!
Karl Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 10:16
How can someone comment on an argument regarding hunting and trapping, when probably he spent all his life in a room 3m x 3m covered with books and computers in the heart of Sliema....... This argument is clearly talking about trapping and not hunting and than you find a comment like the above ....... if hunters are called barbaric, idiots and any other bad adjectives, what can people like these be called??!!!!!!, unfortunetly they are called clever and intelligent, even though they don`t have an idea on what they are talking about ........people like these are trying to abolish this tradition which has been existing ever since Earth was made, and a tradition which is found everywhere else in the World... but we always have to be different from others!!!
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 10:28
Lanqas taf fuqiex is-suggett hu B SANT hi aqra l-ewwel qabel titkellem ghalhekk ma nemminx hafna minnkom ghax l-aqwa li tikkundannaw u ma jkun veru xejn,jien bhalhekk inkun l-imgarr u l madawar u naqra fil-ghodu li smajt sparar,fd-9am waqaf kollox,umbad xtippretendi l-ahjar zmien tal-passa u ma jisparawx jew(naf li hekk tixtieq int u is-simili tieghek)
B Sant
Oct 13th 2011, 12:22
of course u live in a 3*3 room - if you dare to go the coutnry side ur got a good chance to be confused with a flying object and shot at . So country side is out of bounds for all maltese who are not hunters ,
viva it - tradition!!!!!!...... If we want to be similar like overseas...... get Malta 's size to foreign lands!!!!!
C Borg
Oct 13th 2011, 13:10
' So country side is out of bounds for all maltese who are not hunters' ,
B.Sant,in Buskett and many other areas hunting is prohibited all year round, and it is rarely visited by a hundred people at one time yet according to your statement it should be overcrowded.
Steve Zammit
Oct 13th 2011, 20:17
M Grima, l-uzu ta' cassettes huwa illegali, tafx? Jew tukkumenta fejn jaqbillek biss? veru stagun miftuh, imma trid tghid kollox.... hafna kaccaturi jiksru l-ligi u juzaw cassttes biex jattiraw l-ghasafar...kif qal tajjeb B Sant
U mhux billi tghid int, illum stess rajt min jispara fuq il-huttaf !!!
Mr Christan Brincat
Oct 13th 2011, 09:49
We dont all agree with this pasttime but we should stand up for these people (the hunters) as they were promised something by our government and now that very government is going back on their word. If we dont support them, they will do this to other segments of the population on other issues.
Divided we fall, united we stand. This should be our motto when the government goes back on their word on any issue.
S. BONAVIA
Oct 13th 2011, 10:29
Thanks Christian a real statement here
C Borg
Oct 13th 2011, 13:01
Well said Cristian
Many are mentioning votes over here, we VOTERS are supposed to vote in a government according to the promises done before the election. If such promises are going to be blatantly disregarded then we might NOT VOTE at all
C Mallia
Oct 13th 2011, 18:53
What a twisted argument Christian. If you do NOT agree with the pasttime, then you do not agree...period, whatever the government has promised or not. You seem to forget the many people who are against. Our motto is "Keep to your principles"
S. BONAVIA
Oct 14th 2011, 20:03
@ C mallia you are the twisted one because no man is an island because otherwise you end up as hanqa ta hmar,
S Vella
Oct 18th 2011, 13:59
@ Christian Brincat
Well said christian, at least you dont see up to your nose that what doesnt concern you, you just dont care! As you said if the government is ready to break his word with us when he gave us a written guarantee, he can break up the whole electoral programme as who cares what he promised, now hes there, he got what he want and he can do what he like!!
Mr S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 09:12
MODERN DICTATORSHIP!
You pay a licence which you cannot practice but you still pay!!
Birds that can be hunted, cannot be cought alive....does it make sense??
Gonzi trapped the trappers!
maltese hunters and trappers treated as 3rd class citizens, Italy just negotiated a derogation and Malta we try to be more Christians than the Pope himself!
DISGUSTING!!
Mr Lawrence Camilleri
Oct 13th 2011, 09:00
I am all against indiscriminate shooting and killing but I am all for trapping and support the FKNK cause. Killing is ok but enjoying it live and caring for it at home is not!!
Mr twanny borg
Oct 13th 2011, 09:29
minn jaf kieku xi hadd jigbrok u jitfak f'habs!!
Mr S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 10:06
@ Mr Twanny Borg
...U min jaf kieku xi hadd irabbik ghal qatla???Mela dawk mhux kreaturi u Holqien t'Alla wkoll. Diskriminazzjoni siehbi!!
L-ghasfur li jaqbad in nassab niggarantilek li joghzzu daqs id-dawl t'ghajnejh u biddlu d-diske gej bil habs!!
Juliana Abdilla
Oct 13th 2011, 10:47
@ Twanny Borg
... clearly you don't understand a thing about the passion and love these people show when they breed the birds they CAUGHT without poking a hole through them.
Besides, apparently one can see you don't own any birds 'in-a-cage' - wake up! It's called a pet!
Charles Sammut
Oct 13th 2011, 08:53
Aren't swifts and swallows protected? If so why are they being shot in their thousands with impunity every day? These birds help keep insect population down and are beneficial to the environment so what is 'conservationist' about killing them? Ban this barbaric practice once and for all. Oh I forgot, birds don't vote, so who cares?
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Oct 13th 2011, 09:39
Charles, to begin with swifts are not present at this time of year. However if they or swallows do get shot, definitely not in their thousands and not every day, this is against the law. Whoever gets caught doing so will get whatever he deserves. This is no less than wrong than treating animals badly.
We recently had 2 very "barbaric practices" inflicted on dogs, Are we to ban dog ownership?
As for your vote, judging by the stupidity of your argument, its probably a wasted vote anyway. A bird's vote will probably be more sensible.
Bernard Storace
Oct 13th 2011, 09:44
It is obvious that quite a chunk of the 'hunters' do not have a solid education and cannot distinguish between a bird of prey, swallow, swift etc and a turtle dove or quail. Hence the indiscriminate shooting. Similarly there are others who destroy trees not knowing the benefits derived from having trees.........education is the basis upon which many things, if not everything, is founded.
Andrea McHutchon
Oct 13th 2011, 09:54
If hunters and trappers are so keen on their sport, and missing the thrills of kill and capture. Why don't they take to PAINT BALLING much more fun!! It could even become a new spectator sport, and a tourist attraction. Just think of the money they would make selling tickets!!! Thus leaving the the birds to fly on to other countries where people appreciate the birds ALIVE. Thank you Charles from some one who cares about wildlife and Malta
Mr S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 10:27
@ Charles Sammut
Sir, if you are so sure that swifts and swollows, which are protected spicies are shot in their thousands you are just as guilty if you never reported these massacres to the police. I challenge you to come forward with names of culprits not just blunt staements to obscure all hunters!! those you are accusing which I am sure you are not being honest , are poachers!!
Mr S Vella
Oct 13th 2011, 10:39
@Andrea McHutchon
It sounds like you are not Maltese Sir, at least from your surname...and I am sure that whatever country you come from, hunting is legally practised, and probably hunting trips to attract tourists too are organised. Are we any less?
Do hunters play PAINT BALLING IN THE REST OF THE EU COUNTRIES??
We are none the less and we have every right to hunt! We are not third class EU citizens
H. Galea
Oct 13th 2011, 11:51
@Charles Sammut
I, like, so many others, do appreciate your lamentations. I have seen such scenes with my own eyes .... so called hunters shooting down these innocent beneficial beings without even having the decency to go and pick them up ! I wonder why and howcome some individuals seem to claim a god-given right to terminate the lives of innocent beings or else imprison such song birds in ‘gabbjetti’ or cruelly tie them by the foot to some strange gadgets. What kind of sport is this? This is what some wise guy should amplify on !.... if our so called hunters claim that this cruelty is a sport, why not prove it? why not go and compete in the next Olympics and bring home a few much needed and appreciated GOLD medals ?
How many dogs and cats enjoy the stature of miniature gods in our homes ? Why, therefore, banish dog/cat ownership ? – just because of the inhuman cruelty we have had to suffer recently? (incidentally, I hope that our law courts would become even harsher, and come down like a ton of bricks on the heads of these perpetrators!) For such a fallacious conclusion by presumably a hunter/trapper is so very strange – as someone who pretends to know his ‘sport’ that well, should also know much better than that. In Italian, we put as “una rondine non fa primavera”. I do not need to comment further.