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Bus usage figures based on electronic count in each bus - ministry spokesman

Updated Thursday 12.15

A spokesman for the Transport Ministry confirmed today that usage of the bus service is being calculated according to the electronic count in each bus. 

The ministry said yesterday that more than three million passengers used route buses last month, 22 per cent more than in the same month last year.

However many people quickly pointed out that with the introduction of interchanges, a large number of commuters now needed to use more than one bus to get to their destination. 

In its  statement yesterday, the ministry said that the number of users in September was 3,179,027.

In August, the service was used by 27 per cent more passengers than in the same month last year.

The August increase in Malta was 21 per cent, in Gozo 321 per cent and in September the increase was 16 per cent in Malta and 371 per cent in Gozo.

These figures, the ministry said, were an expression of confidence in the service, in spite of its substantial shortcomings which had to be better addressed by the operator.

The figures also clearly showed how more routes and more destinations meant commuters had better public transport opportunities.

This did not in any way mitigate passengers' justified complaints that, especially in the mornings, they were not finding the level of service they expected, the ministry said.

It promised to continue to press the operator (Arriva) to deliver on its obligations by providing bus services according to the promised frequency and schedules. 

It had to be said, however, that neither the operator nor Transport Malta had believed that there would be such an increase in patronage in such a short period, the ministry said.

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cettina portelli

Oct 14th 2011, 17:57

and what about counting the times that you are sitting on a bus, get to park and ride, paola interchange or wherever, and THEN all commuters have to get off to change buses since the driver is due for his break??finished his shift?? or the bus has run out of diesel?? etc., etc., etc.,
so we are counted twice for just one journey!!!!
and how many times has this happened to others all over malta?

Gary Jameson

Oct 14th 2011, 11:50

The official message that I have been given by Arriva Customer DisService is that they are here to serve Arriva and not you.

Stefan Enge

Oct 14th 2011, 00:41

Only 75 minutes? You are very lucky. Sliema <-> Zurrieq takes always 3 hours! To go to London would be faster!

But what bugs me most is how the drivers are speeding. As soon they see a free street they drive like mad. I have seen them driving over 80 in closed villages in front of schools!

Daniel Dimech

Oct 14th 2011, 06:50

hehehehehhee nice one unfortunately cannot find the like tab.... may be thei pc is infected!!!!

Donna Parnis

Oct 14th 2011, 09:07

On Tuesday my daughter had to be at university for her first lecture at 10am, she got to the square in zejtun at 8.10am, as there are supposed to be three 210 buses direct to the uni per hour. at 9.35 she was still waiting, no bus had arrived not even the 81 which is supposed to be every 20 minutes too. at 9.20 an 81 did arrive but totally full up so she couldnt get on it. She ended up coming home and missing her lecture as they wont let you in late. Today again the 210 buses did not arrive. We also have the 84 bus which comes to the top of Zejtun supposed to arrive at 20 to the hour. This week it has been arriving anywhere from 5 to the hour to 20 past the hour. not once on time. You can complain to arrive constantly but never get anywhere. This service is a total disgrace .

Romina Borg

Oct 13th 2011, 15:50

ghax zmien il-buzulotti spicca. beda z-zmien tal-gideb, arroganza u hmieg.

Richard Galea

Oct 14th 2011, 14:02

Yes...That would be the best way to see how effective......

A Caruana

Oct 13th 2011, 18:52

It tort kollu ta Austin Gatt ghax ma halliex il Arriva jahdmu bi prova qabel iffirma il Kuntratt, mela jekk jien nibda job jkolli 6 xhur probation u alla jbierek Arriva le?? U din ipparalizzat nofs Malta daqs kemm zied it traffiku filghodu ghax hadd ma jafda is servizz, biex tasal bil karozza wara li tehel fi Triq tal Barrani u il Marsa issa vjagg min Marsascala qed jiehu mal 50 u anke 90 minuta qabel konna naghmlu it trip fi 35 minuti l-istess hinijiet.

Marlon Zammit

Oct 14th 2011, 17:44

Mid-dehra tieghek ma tuzax is-servizz tal-linja min-Naxxar !!!!

Sewwa qed tghid hemm it-21 u 23 li johduk dawra sal-Gharghur, San Gwann u tibqa sejra dawra ma tas-Sliema, il-Gzira umbad xi darba tasal il-Belt (bejn 75 u 90 minuta fis-sajf meta ma jkunx hemm hafna traffic) umbad ghandna il-famuza 31 li tigi minn Bugibba tghaddi mill-Mosta qabel titla n-Naxxar ghal-Hal Lija, Mater Dei u l-Belt. Gabulna wkoll il-43 li titlaq minn fejn l-MCAST in-Naxxar u tghaddi minn B'Kara, Msida u l-Belt.

Jien nirkeb mit-tieni stage go n-Naxxar int u sejjer il-Belt: Bus Stop Sghajjar (suppost Sghajtar). Mela it-21 u 23 insijhom biex tasal il-Belt, nistiednek tigi fuq dan l-istage fis-7.15 ta' fil-ghodu nistennew it-31 flimkien ha tkun taf kif inhuma moqdijin in-Naxxarin, ghadtlek fis-7.15 biex ma nhallikx tistenna xi nofs siegha u ma tghaddix Bus wahda umbad meta jigu, jghaddu xi erbgha ippakjati u l-anqas biss jiefqu. Meta jirnexxilek tirkeb (insa l-kju, kulhadd jghati biex jitla nkunu xi ghoxrin ruh), bil-wiefqa sal-Imsida ghax hemm tizvojta mil-istudenti u tkun tista tpoggi bil-qeda. L-ahhar li pruvajt forsi nsolvi l-problema kell nimxi mixja sal-MCAST ghax qtajt qalbi nistenna it-31 u jghaddu mimlija, u ghamilt mis-7.30am sat-8.17am biex giet il-43 li suppost kull kwarta !!!

L-istess problema taffacja int u gej lura mil-Belt fil-5.15pm, tasal il-venda u jkun hemm nies bizejjed biex timla tlett buses u tibqa l-art, suppost it-31 kull 10 minuti u tisma n-nies igergru li ilhom nofs siegha u l-anqas giet wahda. Ahna tan-Naxxar x'ghandna x'naqsmu ma' Bugibba, skoss turisti jimlew il-Bus u int m'ghandekx cans titla.

Nista nassigurak li jekk ma tafx tidaj, ghandek tiehu lezzjoni tajba ghax hlief nies jidaw fuq l-istages u l-buses ma tismax. U xi nghidu ghal-istudenti jgergru li jidhlu nofs siegha tard ghal-lezzjoni u ma jhalluwhomx jiedhlu, qalu wkoll li qed jaqtawlhom mill-istipendju.

Jien ma nafx minn fejn gibta din: 'here the arriva service is being up to standards', bqajt icassat naqra l-kumment tieghek. Saghtejn fil-ghodu biex tmur ghax-xoghol il-Belt u tnejn ohra fil-ghaxija biex tasal id-dar in-Naxxar, kemm hu ahjar meta kellna xarabanks ha jaqaw bicciet, drivers jidaw (issa n-nies), drivers ipejpu waqt li jsuqu.......u d-difetti kollha li kellhom.

INT BIS-SERJETA JEW !!!!!





cettina portelli

Oct 13th 2011, 18:00

people who live near st.edwards and de la salle college in birgu have to take THREE buses if they want to go to sliema and THREE buses to get back.... this system is so flawed its ridiculous!

and where, may i ask, is the PROOF of these statistics? anyone can stand up and say anything they wish but there must be PROOF to back up what they are saying.

effie stafrace

Oct 13th 2011, 12:38

taf li is sena l ohra kin awn 2000 licensja ta sawqan godda..dawn mux fi toroq iridu isuqu....u bdaqsekk ma ifisirx li ax awn iktar karozzi fi toroq in nies mux qet juzaw l arriva

Kendrick Bondin

Oct 13th 2011, 13:44

Ms Stafrace, Mr Azzopardi is right! I for one used to use the bus service but since many a times I've been on the bus stop for more than 30min waiting, I gave up & started using my own car.

I believe that there are others like me. unfortunately we continue to ruin our environment.

cettina portelli

Oct 14th 2011, 18:20

i would love to see how much profit ARRIVA has made since it started operating here!
and if it were an honest audit, im sure it wont match the number of commuters that we are being shown here.

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 10:37

Why are you happy and proud not to be a bus user Mr Micallef? Please not scorn the bus user.

And please do not judge what you do not know about.

Mr Joseph Sammut

Oct 13th 2011, 11:14

Everything that is dished out by this govt has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Phil Humphries

Oct 13th 2011, 11:35

It gets boring sitting in the back of a car that's stook behind a bus in a long traffic jam. I guess it must be especially boring in the back of a ministerial car with only a laptop for company :))

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 12:27

Phil Humphires: you insinyuate that the traffic is the fault of the trucks. Get a life! There was traffic before, there is traffic today, and lets hope there will be less after.

Janice Ancilleri

Oct 13th 2011, 13:06

@Ray Cassar:

There was traffic before,
There is MORE traffic today,
and there will be More & MORE traffic until the bus system will remain the same!

Karozza ghandi, u mmur l-iskola n-Naxxar. Bis-sistema l-antika, kont nitlaq b'tal-linja siegha u nofs qabel minn haz-Zabbar. Ilbierah fettilli mmur bl-Arriva u tlaqt mid-dar 6.30am biex nasal ghal-lezzjoni ta' 9am, mentri qabel kont nitlaq xi 7.30. Taf xiex? Lanqas biss wasalt l-iskola qabel 9.30am!! Ma nahsibx li habba sistema li qieghda gravi u hadd mhu jindenja ruhu jaghmel xi haga, ghandi nitlaq mid-dar xi 5.30am biex forsi nasal hux? Bicca pajjiz zghir ghandna ta' u mhux xi pajjiz bhall-Italja jew l-Ingilterra!

Qabel kien hawn traffic, veru, imma trip minn hawn sal-Belt ma kienx johodli aktar minn 45 minuta fl-istess hin ta' filghodu li rkibt ilbierah. Ilbierah biex wasalt il-belt hadt siegha u nofs! It-traffic li kien hawn qabel ma tistax tikkumparah ma dak li qed ikun hawn f'dawn l-ahhar gimghat minn meta hafna tfal bdew l-iskola. Min jahdem u jsuq, kien hemm zmien fejn kien imur b'tal-linja, kif kont naghmel jien. It-traffic hadd ma jhobbu u billi nnaqsuh mhux ser naghmlu hsara. Imma biex innaqsuh irid ikollna sistema tajba tal-karozzi tal-linja li fejn irridu mmorru naslu fil-hin bhal qabel, u mhux tard!

Mr Giovanni Rizzo

Oct 13th 2011, 10:44

Ghaziz sur Camilleri,niddubita jekk il-Ministru Austin Gatt ghandux karozza tieghu personali u kemm jaghmel uzu mit-trasport pubbliku !!

Mario Camilleri

Oct 13th 2011, 12:38

@Mr Giovanni Rizzo,
X'jambihom meta qiegħed komdu b'kollox imħallas u moqdi minn kollox!! Jien, li niddubita hu jekk hux vera dak li qal li mhux ser joħroġ għall-elezzjoni li jmiss, għax trid tkun baħnan biex iċċedi u tħalli warajk pakkett bħal dak li jikkumpensa aktar minn €70,000 salarj, perkaċċi, karozza skont ix-xewqa tiegħek b'kollox imħallas, poter li tagħmel li trid għandek jew m'għandekx mandat u l-privileġġ li titmellaħ bil-poplu. xi jrid aktar??

Yvonne Attard

Oct 13th 2011, 16:10

It-tifla tieghi meta tispicca JC fil-hamsa jkollha tmur il-belt u tirkeb min hemm ghax mill-Imsida ghal B'kara jghaddu full up u tasal id-dar 6.15pm.

Albert Bezzina

Oct 13th 2011, 13:37

Interessat fil-figuri ta' bejh mil-pompi tal petrol. Fejn nista insibhom?

Mr joe vella

Oct 13th 2011, 11:42

aldo, agree with you,
the correct terminology though is spin

we will notice that with elections fast approaching there will be so much of it that it will turn us dizzy

just look around us, all sorts of projects are getting off the ground, roads, roofless theatres, new parliament, quays, playgrounds, natura this and eco that

all are programmed to be completed or nearly so for the ribbon cutting ceremonies come may/june 2013

that is the nature of SPIN (who know maybe instead of gonziPN this time we get SPN-PN or SP PN - (special package PN)
come 2013 we will see how spinnable (new word!) or perhaps more correctly how gullible we all are !!

cettina portelli

Oct 13th 2011, 18:14

if this is an attempt at brainwashing, then it has failed dismally...if you have to wait for nearly an hour for a bus in the sun and later on, in the rain, then you are NOT going to be impressed with these figures.
whether they are true or not, it makes no difference to the average commuter. they are not going to be thrilled at how much or how little ARRIVA is used - or not - all they want is a decent service which, i can assure you, is not happening in the three cities, for sure!
so ARRIVA, TRANSPORT MALTA OR WHOEVER can carry on tooting their horn but nobody is impressed!

silvio loporto

Oct 13th 2011, 09:35

Could it be the 22% increase is actually the amount that was being skimmed off the top,by the previous drivers, and operators?
Who knows,maybe it is worth checking.

Christina Pace

Oct 13th 2011, 10:52

Well said! Thank you for putting fact in black and white.

Brian Busuttil

Oct 13th 2011, 11:03

amen!

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 10:44

You are correct mr cocker. If the roads are so busy itr is not fair that we blame the buses for not running to time when none of us can. Or do we want them to be miracle workers!

This last week it has taken me between 22 minutes and 1 hour and 7 minutes to get to work on a morning. How can we blame the buses for running late in traffic that is not there fault!

Transport Malta needs stepping up and take the responsibility for doing something to make our roads and traffic be better managed NOW!

Franco Abela

Oct 13th 2011, 08:58

I agree. Day tickets hould be counted as 2 trips.... to work and back

Franco Abela

Oct 13th 2011, 08:59

Il-pjan tal-gvern qed jirnexxi... ghad-detriment taghna!

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 10:49

What a nice excuse for you to sit in your car, to blame someone else! I bet you sit in your car before and do the same now with a smugness and have never even tried the bus, just jump on the truck bandwagon like so many who just like the drama and the criticise! The problem is traffic management in general needs addressing. The truck drivers are not some kind of miracle workers who can pray or magic the bus past the other cars in the way! Come on. Be fair and dont judge what you do not know.

Bernard Storace

Oct 13th 2011, 09:50

get a life man.....it seems you enjoy wallowing in self pity. Try getting up a little bit earlier because there is something for everybody if you only care to look for it.......the early bird catches the worm........ask the hunters, hehehe.

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 12:32

You are a bad example of the youth of today. Stop moaning. Work hard. Be grateful for the job you have job. When you deserve a better one and have earned it you will get one. Stop being angry at the world and take some responsibility. Look around this world and you have it way better than most. Threatening to stop work and sit on your ass will hurt no one but you silly person.

Take life in your own hands. Go be a bus driver with Arriva and put your money where your mouth sits and take some action to make things better! If you are as good as you say you are no doubt you will be running the company and there will be a perfect situation very soon!

Frederick Gauci

Oct 13th 2011, 17:18

This a real example of the wolf that did not raech the grapes on the tree.
What else are we going to blame Arriva on now??
Maybe the waiting list in Mater dei is Arriva's fault too, because who is in charge is late because he or she do not drive????

Mr John Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 21:59

Wow...same thoughts exactly! How reliable were the statistcis maintained when the old system was in use? How many tickets were sold but went undeclared?

The ministry is doing everything to prove a point which does not exist. The fact are simple, this public transport was a flop.

They should have chaged the busses, educted the drivers and kept everything esle as it was. Why try re-invent the wheel?

Mr Andrew Cauchi

Oct 12th 2011, 22:07

I don't know, it's wasn't simple to go on a bus without a ticket, since there was only one entrance and you had to pay upon entrance.

If anything it's more possible now since bendy-buses have three doors.

James Camilleri

Oct 12th 2011, 23:22

Agreed. I for one used to travel by bus everyday before taking an average of 4 trips a days. Nowadays the service is so shoddy I am making use of the buses only 2 times a week when alternative transport is impossible for me. That means for me a minimum of 20 trips less a week.

Mr Edward Caruana Galizia

Oct 12th 2011, 22:22

Yes there is Mr Camilleri: the number of tickets bought.

Mr Aaron Vella

Oct 12th 2011, 23:47

Oh my... Of course there is a way of counting the passengers, by seeing how many tickets were sold. My gosh, you think we're in the Congo?

R Axisa

Oct 13th 2011, 06:21

Passengers who change buses twice or even three times are counted as such! Loghob bin-numri!

Kurt Slattery

Oct 12th 2011, 22:12

Vera u mhux bilfors ikollna noqogħdu nitilgħu l-airport kull filgħodu, xemx jew xita.

Mr Denis Pace

Oct 12th 2011, 23:07

I need a massage myself

Peter Bonnici

Oct 12th 2011, 23:46

come again?

l vella

Oct 12th 2011, 23:09

yes i agree, Arriva is ridiculous.

We have been hearing that the service will improve for months, and still we are worse than before as far as routes and timings are concerned.

James Camilleri

Oct 12th 2011, 23:25

What's going to happen in a few weeks' time? A heavenly intervention? Nothing has happened in over 3 months.

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 11:02

I Vella: how many times do you believe the spin of this government! It is they not the Arriva who done did the routes and Transport Malta who do the roads and traffic! We loose our voice when people like you exagerate and blame the wrong man!

We need more improvement from Arriva yes, but do ask for it in the right place please! If you use the bus you will know it getting better but they need some more trucks on the routes that more people want to use than can get on now. It makes us frustratered being at the stop and waiting but if the traffic is very bad then Transport Malta are the responsible for doing something!

Mr Louis Muscat

Oct 13th 2011, 07:33

Before we used to catch one bus to arrive to destination. Today if you are lucky you have to catch two. So the use of public transport went down by at least 70%/

Yeah with the same ticket!!!!

Sarah Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 22:45

As you said the problem with the prior provider was inadequate vehicles and inappropriate attitude ... the routes were fine on the other hand... This is what is causing the problem... buses passing through the most ridiculously narrow roads causing many delays because of the maneuvers the bus drivers have to perform and useless looping of routs plus having no buses go by for half an hour then see 3 buses on right after the other.
While it is true that the service has improved in some ways it has been a major let down in other aspects.

James Camilleri

Oct 12th 2011, 23:28

Where have you landed from Mr Collins? The moon? Lol.

Clayton Zahra

Oct 13th 2011, 07:28

Guess you are living in a dream Neil! or you are brainwashed by the government! better dirty buses and the old drivers than arriving late at work! as we say in maltese 'Mhux kull ma jleqq hu deheb'!

Ray Cassar

Oct 13th 2011, 11:18

Neil Collins: finally someone who talks sense and is looking objectively and not with rose tinted spectacles!

Sarah Borg: you are correct to. But have you listened to the politics spin or the truth? If the truth you will know it is our glorious Gatt and his manwel who did do the routes (that they start to now praise agen above!). This provider as you say, runs the trucks where it is told by the transport malta. So I take it you are saying they need to take responsbility for sorting this out to not kicking the dog they pay to do its asking!

James Camilleri: Foolish not useful comment. Do you take the bus or are swept along with the constamt drama and moaning that is unfortunately becoming the way of our people?

Clayton Zahara: why you criticise someone for saying good? Soon no one in our land will dare speak good for risk of people like you doing them down all the time if you know what I mean! I notice you give no useful or insiteful comment of your own of your experience, observasions or suggestions. Why not do something useful and not just join in with the moaners and critisicse?

James Camilleri

Oct 14th 2011, 00:06

@Mr Cassar - down under. Not a foolish comment. Try boarding a bus in Valley Road B'Kara between 6:30 and 8; or Mriehel (same time) or B'Kara interchange (old bus terminus) day in day out hoping that a Bus would arrive so that youcouild get to work on time. Waiting for 1 and a half hours is no joke especially when you arrive late for work. No matter how early you leae you, at this points I mentioned you can never board a bus before around 7:30 or 8. And then you have to wait for another bus somewhere else, meaning another long wait. During this waiting time you can call me frustrated and fuming with rage and anger but definitely not foolish. Although those who pass us commuters waiting endlessly on bus stops think that we are really foolish with our hopes of being lucky at baording a bus. You called people criticising the service as "people wearing rosy specs". Well I think you are wearing a very blue one!

cettina portelli

Oct 14th 2011, 18:41

you obviously dont live in the south, especially in the cottonera area....having to wait for more than an hour for a bus that already arrives half full and with 50 or 60 people waiting to board!!!!
AND THATS JUST ONE BUS STOP!
it gets worse as it goes into the centre of bormla.

Frederick Gauci

Oct 12th 2011, 20:54

@Maria curmi

what would you say if it was the best public transport ever?? I think you still complain because nothing can be perfect.

J.C. Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 21:07

Jigifieri qed jiddispjacik Ms Curmi? Jiena nuza l-Arriva, kwazi, kulljum u ma ngorrx daqs kemm kont ingorr b'ta' qabilhom.

Ian Bugeja

Oct 12th 2011, 21:16

numbers don't lie so I guess the service is not as bad as everyone thinks ...

J.C. Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 21:15

I only heard PL parrots complaining on the Bus Stops. Many of them forgot the plight we were in before last September.

Sarah Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 22:32

I am glad to see you are being served well Mr Borg ... unfortunately not everyone can say the same especially when you have to travel daily by bus and end up taking longer to get to your destination then actually running your errands.

If you only heard "PL parrots" complaining (and I assure you this is not the case) it is because some people cannot admit that something is categorically not working irrespective of which party is in government (li jaghmlu dawn kollox tajjeb u ta' l-ohrajn kollox hazin).

James Camilleri

Oct 12th 2011, 23:32

Mr Borg and how do you know that those complaining are PL Parrots? Are they wearing badges. Maybe you are wearing a badge too saying "Everything is fine with the service. I live in dreamland and I am a PN Parrot" - caged and tamed.

Victor Vella

Oct 12th 2011, 20:36

yes my friend but we also need to learn to change busses like they do in other countries, the Malyese passenger wants a bus passing along the street where they live , with a bus stop less then 50 meters away from thier house ( but beware, not in front of thier house of course) and the same bus goes through the road where they work.If the service is not like that then they would complain to high heaven, and call the minister names.The PL had it's share of the blame in this debacle as they instigated the people against the service.I also heard complains against Arriva because the free parking at the park and ride in Floriana is no longer free.

David Cassar

Oct 12th 2011, 21:39

The question is when will it??

K. Vella

Oct 12th 2011, 22:07

In life there are 2 options....

1. or you stay moaning and complaining and leave everything as it was.

2. tackle the problem, reform it, address the problems, and start sorting them out. Ofcourse, problems will still be encountered but the target is to improve further.

Terry Stride

Oct 12th 2011, 21:40

They are quite amazing figures for Gozo, but I am not at all suprised. we do have a really excellent bus service on Gozo, Thanks so much Arriva.

John J. Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 20:59

Ghax fi zmienek tghidx kemm konnha nivvjaggaw komdi sur ex-ministru.

K. Vella

Oct 13th 2011, 09:51

So comfortable to be an armchair critic without providing any solution just only stirring doubts and hatred amongst bloggers and towards the service.

Re buses these were brought over as a temporary solution, at least they are planning for a contingency plan and not left the commuters without service.

Lets unite for once and lets support such changes, I was one who criticized and changes were implimented and improvements are already being felt.

Good Luck Arriva and let us improve further.

FRANS H SAID

Oct 12th 2011, 20:32

Do you use it yourself? How many times each day (or is it on a monthly basis?)

Mr Charles.C. Brown

Oct 12th 2011, 20:54

Not many. Since this chaos started back in july many commuters who used public transport to avoid a parking nightmare went back to their cars and its ovious that now they are finding it hard to go back using buses. good planning beforehand would have saved a lot of problems and hardship to the elderly and all those who have no other means to travil with.

FRANS H SAID

Oct 12th 2011, 20:33

Does Austin Gatt need apologists so biased like you?

If he is so good, why his opposotion to the previous direct routes, especially 49/58 which was so convenient?

Mr ALBERT FENECH

Oct 12th 2011, 20:51

I guess that if I told you that yesterday I saw cows flying overhead you would believe that too? Mr. Agius you are either a very gullible person or you really are living in a world of your own. It's sad really.

ALBERT FENECH
Qawra

l vella

Oct 12th 2011, 21:14

Statistics are numbers and numbers can be manipulated.

By the way do You use public transport ?

Joe Camilleri

Oct 12th 2011, 21:40

Get down to earth, man!

Ġ. Agius

Oct 12th 2011, 22:38

I occasionally use public transport and the times I have used arriva it was a breeze!

In fact I am considering to increase my public transport usage! The airconditioning is perfect, the manners of the driver is sublime and any voyage is smooth when listening to Kenny G and Michael Bolton on the ipod whilst travelling around Malta in a MODERN and EFFICIENT way.

And as I said before, facts are facts, statistics are statistics, YOU CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST OFFICIAL STATISTICS!! And traffic HAS decreased mostly.

Louis Saliba

Oct 13th 2011, 19:32


@ G. Agius

Your assertion that all the people you have been talking to are complaining about the new bus service are simply exhibiting their "liberal/MLP bias", as you put it, is ridiculous to the point of defying comment.

Perhaps you should consult a dictionary regarding the meaning of the terms "ignorance" and "blasphemy".

God only knows where you got the figure of 22% reduction in traffic, but if you really believe there has been any reduction, I would suggest you have your eyesight tested.

And finally, anyone who swallows so-called "statistically-proven" assertions by obviously interested parties without disclosure of how the relevant "data" were collected, should be recommended for a Nobel Prize in gullibility.

Louis Saliba

Oct 13th 2011, 19:32


@ G. Agius

Your assertion that all the people you have been talking to are complaining about the new bus service are simply exhibiting their "liberal/MLP bias", as you put it, is ridiculous to the point of defying comment.

Perhaps you should consult a dictionary regarding the meaning of the terms "ignorance" and "blasphemy".

God only knows where you got the figure of 22% reduction in traffic, but if you really believe there has been any reduction, I would suggest you have your eyesight tested.

And finally, anyone who swallows so-called "statistically-proven" assertions by obviously interested parties without disclosure of how the relevant "data" were collected, should be recommended for a Nobel Prize in gullibility.

Mr Vincent Scerri

Oct 12th 2011, 20:08

Agree 101%.

Victoria Vella

Oct 12th 2011, 20:22

Mr Attard you must have read my mind!

J.C. Borg

Oct 12th 2011, 20:26

Jekk taf b'xi haga mur u rrapporta Sur Attard. Mhux inparlaw biss.

Mr Joseph N. Attard

Oct 12th 2011, 22:03

Sur Borg, jidher li int l-uniku wiehed f'Malta li ma jafx "b'xi haga".

FRANS H SAID

Oct 12th 2011, 20:35

or better still tampered and adjusted statistics. On what was the increase calculated? On the previous system or on the first week of the fiasco?

T Gauci

Oct 12th 2011, 20:00

It's a majority not a minority

A Caruana

Oct 12th 2011, 20:03

Mr C Cassar, it is very clear that you are well served with Arriva - the same cannot be said for us residents in Marsascala where we have been deprived of a direct Bus to Valletta from the Siberia area leaving us with no option but to walk between 20 - 30 minutes to get to the Terminus just to board the Valletta bus!! So it is very obvious that rather ten being 'moaners' we are justified in our complaints!

Mr robert micallef

Oct 12th 2011, 20:07

and then there are the type who believe everything.

Neil Collins

Oct 12th 2011, 20:30

and not forgetting the type that moan at everything

FRANS H SAID

Oct 12th 2011, 20:37

And then there are ultra professional apologists who are only interested to praise certain ministers, parties or whatever. A government should not rest on these apologists but by keeping an open ear to the problems of the people in general.

Mr Biker Man

Oct 12th 2011, 20:44

Agreed 100%. I used the service on more than one occasion and I am satisfied. Decent buses, good mannered and smart dressed drivers, air conditioning .... and no more black clouds of smoke coming out from buses exhaust pipes. Light years ahead of the previous wild west. Obviously, it's the moaners who make themselves heard most, but there are many more people who are satisfied with the new service, and just use it. No it's not a majority that complain, it's a minority ... but obviously not in this comments section. Here the moaners win, but reality is very different.

Mr Joseph E Briffa

Oct 12th 2011, 19:59

I agree with the contents of your last sentence.

A Caruana

Oct 12th 2011, 20:04

Same here in Marsascala, Bus 91 still is not passing from the largest residential area in Marsascala but people have to walk for ages to get the bus!

Mr Tony Gatt

Oct 12th 2011, 21:00

@ A. Caruana
You're right- we in Siberia are always left out in the cold!

Anthony Pace

Oct 12th 2011, 19:45

There has been a registered increase in the number of passengers bacause there are more interchanges. So instead of using one bus to get to theie destination assengers have to change at interchanges like the Marsa one and wait for an hour.

Adam Sant

Oct 12th 2011, 20:24

yes but they buy one ticket. and it must be calculated on ticket sales!

Anthony Pace

Oct 13th 2011, 10:03

@ Mr Sant. I used to be a PL supporter till the fiasco with the bus service and arrogant minister!!!

Anthony Pace

Oct 12th 2011, 19:47

Yes you are counted as four passengers. Now people buying a day return use their ticket for as many errands as they need to do in a day seeing that the fares have gone up by 50%.

Adam Sant

Oct 12th 2011, 20:27

no youre counted as one....anthony you are way to ignorant and even if it was a super service you would complain. And no fares arent up by 50%..compare todays day ticket with the old day ticket, its way cheaper.

Mr Joseph E Briffa

Oct 12th 2011, 20:13

In summer there are tens of thousands of tourist who use public transport, there should be a drop in patronage from October or November onwards. Comparing August and September figures in 2011 with those in the corresponding months in 2010 is bound to show a substantial rise, as the figures for 2010 and previous years were not reliable; they were probably downsized for obvious reasons.

R Saliba

Oct 12th 2011, 19:56

It could also be a sign that people -like you- want to bash the government no matter what

FRANS H SAID

Oct 12th 2011, 20:38

Le, sempliciment orribbli

Mr Joseph E Briffa

Oct 12th 2011, 20:05

By getting to know the typical Maltese driver...when more than ten cars meet there is chaos...people who don't know how to walk in a straight line can hardly make good drivers, it is said that people drive the way they walk.

Louis Saliba

Oct 13th 2011, 19:07


@ Joseph E. Briffa

Back to your anti-Maltese tirades, I see. Isn't there any other tune you are able to sing? And what has walking or driving got to do with people waiting at bus stops?

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