Updated - Arriva reports 'positive day' as bus service is relaunched
Updated 8.15 p.m.
Arriva Malta relaunched the bus service today, with changes to the route network and more buses on the roads, and while contrasting comments were made by commuters, Arriva managing director Keith Bastow said the day was 'positive'.
"I'm pleased to report a positive day with all buses out, all shifts covered including by the newly added drivers, and a significant increase in the number of journeys provided in addition to the new routes which started yesterday - I am encouraged by the positive reaction from the majority of our passengers,"Mr Bastow told timesofmalta.com.
Some commuters complained that the new Ċirkewwa bus did not turn up on time at the ferry quay this morning, but the new route was welcomed and well patronised. It was especially welcomed by commuters in Fleur-de-Lys, who had been without a service since the old route 71 was discontinued.
The busy Valletta-Bugibba route 31 appeared to have more buses deployed, but a dispatching problem persisted. At one time, at 9.25 a.m., three buses, one of them a bendy bus, were following each other North bound along the Birkirkara Bypass, while across the road, all stages had waiting passengers.
Lija commuters complained bitterly that the route change to their service, No 43, taking the bus up to Giovanni Curmi College in Naxxar, was bypassing the village whereas before it used to drive up Transfiguration Avenue to the belvedere.
In Paola, commuters started using a new route which starts from Sta Lucija. However, at 10.56 a.m. a reader phoned to complain that the bus to Mater Dei was already 30 minutes late.
Tempers flared outside Mater Dei at about 11.15 a.m. when a bus driver reportedly was rude to commuters and at one time told them to take a taxi. There were some 60 people waiting at the bus stop at the time. One of them said the driver was reported to the Arriva office by an Arriva official who was also on the scene.
At nearby Fgura, bus stops were crowded 'like a mass meeting' according to one commuter, with the buses from Zabbar and Marsascala driving past, full up.
There were more than 30 people on one Fgura bus stop and many said they had been waiting for over an hour. One commuter complained that she was supposed to start work at 9.30 but after 45 minutes on the stage at 9.30 she was still stuck there and had to call her boss.
Most were complaining that it was pointless phoning the Arriva customer service: 'they just take note but we re still stuck here'.
At Mqabba, the local council held a press conference to voice the residents' 'frustration'. Mayor Noel Galea said the village was relegated when the new bus route no longer linked the city centre to Valletta. But the situation had now become worse because bus route 72, which previously took commuters from Mqabba to St Vincent de Paule Home has had its route changed and it no longer stopped outside the Home.
At Zejtun, the local council complained that there was no service to the lower part of the town.
Commuters also pointed out that the Arriva website journey planner has still not been updated with the route changes.
Arriva had set today as D-day for improvements to the bus service - two months after taking over the service. Officials on Saturday said an intake of new drivers should make the buses run on time.
Mr Bastow said he wished to remind the travelling public that the new route changes were only phase two - with a further two phases of route changes to come on 2nd and 30th of October, the details of which Transport Malta will announce in due course. (They will include direct services to Mater Dei Hospital from various localities).
"We are fully committed to continued improvement and our teams are working hard behind the scenes around the clock to deliver," Mr Bastow said.
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D. Camilleri
Nov 7th 2011, 10:37
I was on the bus stop at Fgura from 6.15am, 120 came at 6.40am and it was nearly full up...with all the sightseeing around Paola, Marsa, Qormi and Bkara I managed to arrive at university at 8.30am and missed my first lecture. Since the scholastic year started I only attended this 1st lecture at 8am once as I am spending it always stuck in traffic in Arriva!!
Before, with the 300, it used to take me 45mins the most to arrive at university and I used to go to the bus stop at 7am, not at 6.15am and always arrived in time...it was only once that I missed a lecture because I arrived late.
If I dont pass my exams as I nearly know what this Monday morning lecture is about, who is going to promote me for next year? Austin Gatt?
These people who call themselves 'experts' should really go on bus stops themselves and see what the service is like!!! I really dont see why they keep changing the routes and giving their bus drivers schedules which they surely cannot catch up with, when there is a real lack of buses to make up with these routes!
I really had enough with this poor service now!!
Reg Alfour
Sep 14th 2011, 10:35
I'm sure Keith Bastow is a very nice chap. But he is completely out of his depth and reliant upon insubstantive spin. It's clear now that Arriva are NEVER going to make the grade and provide the service they promised us so convincingly, right up to the night before it started, where during that ridiculous launch presentation they still assured us all was well when they knew it most certainly wasn't going to be.
They are relying upon the good people of Malta becoming complacent and getting used to having an inferior service, whereby all the moaning and criticism will eventually stop. So it is down to everyone to keep reporting the failures and shortcomings, and not to become resigned to a forever inferior service and harking back to the good old days.
Whilst the old network had its shortcomings, and more than its fair share of critics, it had at least mostly evolved through common sense over many decades. In short, it could largely be relied upon. To wipe away all this history in one fell swoop was utter madness. Anyone with any degree of understanding or plain common-sense knew this.
Arriva are supposed to know what they are doing. If the network being presented to them wasn't really workable, why did they sign on the dotted line? Shouldn't they have recognised this? But oh no, all they saw was the potential for profit. And they won't be making any of that for a while - if ever! The parent company will soon pull the plug - or rebrand.
We have all been conned big-time, and Malta has gone from having a service which was both respected and viewed with admiration and great affection worldwide for its frequency and variety, to one which has left our nation a laughing-stock with a system totally devoid of charm and effectiveness.
And that is simply not acceptable to me. Nor should it be to you. So don't let the system grind you down. Keep making plenty of noise. You owe it to your proud nation to ensure Arriva-Derci. And soon hopefully.
Chris Galea
Sep 14th 2011, 16:04
II agree completely. I am finding myself increasingly frustrated since I'm not in a position to do much. I wonder if I can take the Government to court for creating this mess. Before Non-Arriva I had a generally reliable and efficient bus service now I have absolutely nothing. Calling what Non-Arriva is offering a poor service is a massive understatement. They failed on all counts.
Absurdly long waiting hours.
Absurdly long and illogical routes.
Buses leaving Valletta absolutely packed so that it can’t even service the first bus stop in Floriana.
Drivers who can't drive (sudden braking anyone?)
Drivers who don't swear and wear a proper uniform but certainly NOT POLITE. So far I've encountered drivers not stopping on bus stops because others buses for different destinations are boarding, drivers who don't stop because a few people crowded the front of the bus and they don't tell the people to move back, drivers who instead of answering people's queries call them idiots for not reading the signs, and drivers who keep boarding people when it is evidently clear that there is no more space. How I miss the good old drivers.
Non-Arriva employees who are clueless and don't even try to address a situation when it arises.
Fancy leaflets and website with no real useful information. Saying that a bus passes through B’kara isn’t much use to me if you’re not going to tell me from which stage it is actually going to pass.
Alex Borg
Sep 14th 2011, 01:40
Positive day, my left foot! Faced with the prospect of having to pay Euro 3.50 at the Park & Ride in Blata l-Bajda I dutifully walked to my nearest bus stop to commute to work courtesy of Arriva. I first confirmed times on the phone and I was reassured there was one bus every 10 minutes, and that Arriva had reinstated the direct line from Savoy to Valletta, i.e. not the one that takes you for a tour of Sliema. Well after a 30 minute wait, I got doubtful that such a route was indeed reinstated and walked back home to get my car. Sure enough 10 minutes later I saw my bus chugging down Rue D'Argens negotiating the delivery trucks. I eventually got to office 1 hour later. This must have been my fifth or sixth attempt with Arriva in two months. Something tells me we are struggling very hard to switch from village to metropolis, but somehow we just can't make it. For the transport service to succeed Transport Malta must remove half the cars off the road, enforce greater discipline and oblige delivery vans to effect their deliveries during off peak times. And where are the wardens when you need them? Busy slapping no parking tickets is the answer of course. No nerve to face the delivery men.
G Buhagiar
Sep 13th 2011, 23:41
Ma nafx kif qed jinghad li sar kambjament pozittiv ghax sal-lum stess ergajna bl-istess teatrini: nies fuq l-istage, karozzi mimlijin, u nistennew fix-xemx fil-hin ta' wara nofsinhar... Dan il-kambjamnet li sar? Niskanta b'min jitkellem hekk. Biex imorru minn rahala ghall-iehor hemm ghalfejn indumu sighat? Hafna tidwir ghalxejn, tilhaq tixba qabel ma tasal. Hafna li jahdmu l-Belt jispiccaw jaslu tard ghax-xoghol minhabba l-inefficjenza ta' dan it-trasport. Ha nibqghu sejrin b'dawn il-kummiedji?
Mit-3 ta' Lulju sirt tohrog fuq l-istage u ma tafx xhin ha tasal fil-post fejn trid tmur!
Spiccaw buzulotti u bdew ohrajn!! Gabuna nitkellmu wahidna!
Arrivaderci misshom semmewhom.
Chris Galea
Sep 13th 2011, 19:39
Mr. Bastow is taking us for a ride. Unfortunately it is not the one we need. He should seriously consider contesting the next general elections because he's all talk and no action. The new "service" (it is still miles away from being so) promised from September 11 is no where to be seen. Today I spent 40 mins waiting for the 31 bus from Naxxar to Valletta and another 40 mis for the return trip. This is just waiting and not counting the actual time on the bus. The thing is on every Non-Arriva flyer the bus is supposed to operate every 10mins. Shameful.
If they still do not have enough drivers they should re-train the 35 or so Non-Arriva employees doing absolutely nothing at the Valletta terminus.
This country makes me sick.
Alex Caruana
Sep 13th 2011, 19:32
Agreeing with the third person interviewed...unfortunately people who are living in Fgura are not having a very efficient service...we have never had the best service ever as we never had an official terminus in our place. Unfortunately you keep seeing the buses full of people fom Mskala and never your turn...for example i was on stage at around 8am this morning and i caught a bus after the fourth one ...at bloody 9.05am. And i was on the stage near the Jb Stores...so i can just imagine those people who where near the gallarija or later stages... NOT IMPRESSED YET.
Ms Josephine Campbell
Sep 13th 2011, 16:15
When the public longed for an improved service, we wished for a punctual, efficient and clean service. We wished our former Route 40 to be monitored supervised as we were bypassed, waiting in vain for the bus, thus having to resort to go down to Naxxar Road, near JB Stores, whic is almost a mile away. In the Summer heat it is unbearable, and in the Winter, Naxxar Rd is like a river after the rain. As some have commented, WE NEED THE FORMER ROUTES BACK BUT WITH THE NEW OPERATOR. I APPEAL STRONGLY TO TRANSPORT MALTA TO STOP CREATING CONFUSION WITH THE NEW ROUTES. I STRONGLY AGREE AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THOSE WHO HAVE SAID SO. EACH VILLAGE NEEDS A DIRECT SERVICE TO VALLETTA AS THE ROUTES WERE. If circular routes are good, keep them, BUT WE DESPARATELY NEED A DIRECT SERVICE TO VALLETTA TO AND FROM LIJA. GIVE AND ALLOCATE THE NAXXAR-HAMRUN ROUTE ANOTHER NUMBER AND GIVE US BACK THE 43, WHICH CAN GO DOWN BALZAN CENTRE, OR OTHERWISE ROUTE 54 MUST PASS THROUGH THE CENTRE OF BALZAN AND BE MORE FREQUENT, AT LEAST EVERY HALF AN HOUR, AND AT RUSH HOUR, EVERY TWENTY MINUTES. STOP THE 106 SO OFTEN, IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND RESOURCES. I HAVE LIVED HERE 37 YEARS, 10 MONTHS AT THE BOTTOM OF BALZAN AND THE REST IN LIJA AND I KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING AND TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW THE LOCALITY, ATTARD LIJA, BALZAN BY HEART AND HAVE SEEN THE CHANGES IN FORMER ROUTE 40 TAKE PLACE FOR THE WORST. IF FORMER ROUTE 40 SHOULD PASS AS IT SHOULD, INCLUDING WHEN IT ENTERED NEAR THE BELVEDERE TOWER, IT WOULD BE OK. Further to that a service by a van or minibus going round the village is needed, as it is still a long stretch to residents who live at the outskirts. This should be given by transport Malta. 37 years ago the 40 went round all the village. This had to be stopped when the new large buses were introduced, and now, it would be still be short of the upper part of the village, as this went round the village core. When the 40 was still reliable I boarded the bus at the top of Main Street Balzan, and also unboarded. When Main Street Balzan was made one way, we have a longer stretch on the return journey, either near the Belvedere, or the Lija Council, in Robert Mifsud Bonnici Street, or in the middle of Main Street, Balzan. I hope improvements would be implemented soon, as soon as possible.
Also I agree with those who said that there are those that are creating confusion at Transport Malta purposely, and if not, they should be sacked, and the job given to those who know how to do it. TRANSPORT MALTA : CONSULT WITH THE PEOPLE OF EACH LOCALITY BEFORE PLANNING OUT ANY ROUTES.
Suzanne Saliba
Sep 14th 2011, 10:06
Bus no. 54. We need a more frequent service, especially in the mornings when we need to go to work or school. Before 40 bus we had a service every 15 minutes from 7.00 to 8.00am (peak hours). At this rate you either have to go very early to work if bus is every hour. Also 106 bus can be extended to University from Mater Dei as most persons who will use it are University students.
Hope this will be rectified soon.
Mr Antoine Vella
Sep 13th 2011, 13:07
All those moaning about the "old routes" should realise that bus 91 IS THE OLD ROUTE and still experiences problem (I'm taking the risk of believing what some people are saying) while new routes - such as 106, 23, 54 and others are not having problems.
I realise that some people absolutely need to go to Valletta but surely thousands of others could well carry out their errands elsewhere.
One very positive aspect of the new system is that, for the very first time, it sets out to wean people away from an overcrowded Valletta. Inveterate conservatives like Dr Joe Brincat resist the change but it has to come. As someone who, for thirty years used to live in Floriana, I can say that the congestion of traffic and people in that corner of Malta has become unbearable.
I urge Transport Malta to stick to its guns and resist the temptation to increase direct routes to Valletta. Never mind the moaners, eventually they (or their children) will get used to the new system and wonder how on earth we managed with the old charabancs.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Sep 13th 2011, 14:55
I am all in favour of change, if it is for the better. Is this the case ?
Secondly, about Floriana and Valletta. The solution is public transport. I have seen that work in Strasbourg and in Reggio Emilia. The alternative is private cars. There seems to be the impression that private cars do not pollute. There are people who have to go to Valletta, since it is the capital city. Fewer people go to Mdina, which used to be the capital. Then there are those who go shopping. In years gone by, Valletta was always bubbling with people, throughout the day and including weekends. (This may sound conservative !!!)
Change should be in the direction of more public transport and less private cars. That is beneficial change.
By the way I think I know something about Floriana. Who ever dreamt that ix-Xaghra would become a parking area ? Who ever dreamt of using part of the Granaries for parking ? Who ever dreamt that all the streets of Floriana will be packed with parked cars, which do not belong to the residents, as Floriana has fewer residents every year ?
Change yes, but for the better. Oh I forget about the air-conditioner !!!!
Ms Francesca Abela
Sep 13th 2011, 15:04
WE HAD 3 BUSES AN HOUR BEFORE 3RD JULY AND THAT IS WHAT WE WANT - A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM SIBERIA AREA.
Ms M Sciberras
Sep 13th 2011, 15:21
Sur. Vella, nahseb inti xi wiehed minn dawk li tahseb li tezisti inti biss fid-dinja. Jiena nuza tal-linja ghax-xoghol u mhux biex sempliciment immur sal-Belt - u minix moqdija kif suppost ghall-flus li nhallas.
U jekk haddiehor irid imur il-Belt - hi x'inhi ir-raguni - ghalfejn ghandha tkun difficli? U ghalfejn qatt ma tista tippjana appuntament ximkien ghax tal-linja rari jzommu l-istess hin?
Iva, konna ngergru fuq is-servizz l-antik - jien wahda minnhom - imma kif gejna issa qed nghid li nippreferi nhallas 50c u nasal fejn irrid fil-hin u bla hafna tidwir fil-vojt.
Michael Lloyd
Sep 13th 2011, 15:31
Surely the purpose of a bus service is to take the people to where THEY want to go, not to force them to decide they want to go somewhere else entirely! If you want to start some social engineering project to "wean" people away from Valletta, then surely that is the job for the Government, or the Valletta council, or anyone but the bus operator, whose job is simply to take people to and from the places they want to visit. Or do you think the bus company is there to dictate where everyone carries out their various daily tasks?
Victor Pulis
Sep 13th 2011, 17:46
Mr. Vella All those moaning about the "old routes" realise that with the old system Fgura was served by at least five buses numbers 3, 18, 19 and 21 now only the number 91 from Marsascala passes through Zabbar road after going past Zabbar. By the time it reaches Fgura it is full. Fgura with a population of 12,00 needs a terminus. The experts at Transport Malta don't want to listen for some bizarre reason known only to themselves.
Mr Antoine Vella
Sep 13th 2011, 19:11
In another report it was stated that commuters in Paola had to wait over an hour because, although the 91 bus passed regularly every 10 minutes, it was always full up. This means that in an hour and a half, bver 350 people from just two towns - M'scala and Zabbar - entered Valletta (or changed at Portes des Bombes).
If 150 persons from every town and village in Malta were to insist on taking a bus to Valletta/Bombi, it would mean some 8-9000 people pouring into the area in just an hour and a half, using public transport. Many other thousands do the same using their own car.
Is this sustainable?
A Caruana
Sep 16th 2011, 14:42
You are wrong mr vella, before arriva we had 3 buses in one hour direct to Valletta from all parts of the locality, now bus no 91 is only form the centre and commuters from Zonqor and Siberia have at least 15 - 30 minutes to walk BEFORE they can get on the Bus.
Ms M Sciberras
Sep 13th 2011, 12:55
Positive? Bus no 62 which is supposed to leave Siggiewi at 6.40AM did not turn up until 7.07AM. It was packed with passengers ending up leaving people from the last bus stop in Siggiewi and various others in Zebbug and Qormi waiting. Took us 45 mins to arrive to Hamrun and managed to arrive at work late.
Well done.....!
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Sep 13th 2011, 11:36
At 11.05a.m Mr Bastow accompanied by a lady from Arriva was on the other side of the Terminus. He should have crossed over and listen to what the crowd waiting for a bus to Rabat was saying. The Arriva lady scratched her arm while I was looking. Both of them should be scratching their heads.
I moved on and got Route 3 bus. The crowd filled the bus within seconds. A "conductor" had to come up to sift those with a ticket and those without. It was full up.
In Floriana some two passengers were picked up. But that was all. When we came to Blata l-Bajda, there was a young lady who tried to stop the bus, but it was full up. The driver asked whether anyone was alighting. I hated myself that I still had a stop to go.
Yes, Mr Bastow, this should have been another positive day for you.
Readers should understand that Arriva cannot do the miracle of the multiplication of buses. They went on that saying : Better half a loaf than none. Reduce frequency......but that means bigger crowds waiting and fighting their way up to the bus.
Mr M Borg
Sep 13th 2011, 12:37
Everyone knows, that is except Arriva and Transport Malta , knows that B'Kara has a great number of inhabitants.
However anyone who wants to go to B'Kara has to make use of the Rabat buses 51-52-53. It is no wonder that these buses always leave Valletta " full up ".
We do not need frequent buses, what we need are buses that take us from A to B without the need of passengers who want to go to D-E F G etc using the same bus !!
Frederick Gauci
Sep 13th 2011, 20:52
Mr.M Borg, you are saying that only Arriva and TM does not know that B'Kara has a great number of inhabitants, and that they must use the 51-52-53 routes to go to B'Kara, and I am sorry to tell that it happens that only you do not know that there is the new route X6 from Valletta that passes hamrun and Fleur de Lys on it's way to mosta and cirkewwa. Why don't you try it and talk later ??????? It leaves Valletta every hour, not so frequent as you said but takes you from point A-B without going to D-E-F-G.
Mr M Borg
Sep 13th 2011, 23:19
@ Frederick Gauci
So this new route X6 passes through Fleur - De- Lys and you really think that anyone who wants to go to B'Kara is willing to wait in the sun or rain for this "New Route " which runs every hour ??
If you are prepared to waste an hour waiting for a bus many are not !!
Frederick Gauci
Sep 14th 2011, 18:49
Mr.Borg or I am stupid or you do not know what you wrote , You said " we do not need frequent buses, what we need are buses that take us from A to B without the need of passengers who want to go to D-E-F-G-etc using the same bus" Can you explain this please? What you mean with not frequent?
Ms F Goodwin
Sep 13th 2011, 11:34
This is very strange, because yesterday was actually the first NEGATIVE day I had using Arriva. I waited a long time in the hot sun as two full buses drove past, then suffered the familiar crowded conditions I associate with the old bus system, barely able to squeeze on and off. The cockney driver shouted at people waiting at the stop to go away, and when they expressed their unhappiness at having to wait so long in the sun only to be turned away he said "It ain't my fault, is it?" Maybe not, but a more temperate and understanding demeanour wouldn't go astray.
In short, Arriva needs more buses. The overcrowding and tendency for buses to just drive by were among the worst aspects of the old system, and unless they get more buses on the routes this problem will persist. One last thing: if they get more buses 'custom' made in China, maybe they should actually put some thought in this time and get a narrower model to suit the Maltese streets?
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Sep 13th 2011, 11:32
Id-drivers tal-Arriva saru cowboys, it-toroq taghhom u "zuli minn nofs l-ewwel jien".
francis Buhagiar
Sep 13th 2011, 12:50
Whom do you think you will find driving on Arriva ? ........................some one with a PHD.
Mr j mifsud
Sep 13th 2011, 14:15
i must disagree here...from all the problems that arriva are having i think that the drivers are the least responsible..i have always so far encountered polite and educated drivers who always seem ready to be of service to everyone. They are doing a great job! give credit where credit is due
Mr j mifsud
Sep 13th 2011, 11:15
guys i hope you all know that your complaints are falling onto deaf ears here...its not even worth it..
R Cassar
Sep 13th 2011, 10:25
The ride takes an hour (and sometimes even more) from Birzebbuga to Valletta... with a private car it takes only 20 mins max...with a motor cycle even less. N.B the route before Arriva used to be 30mins max, which was quite reasonable. Right now, it is still not viable to go by bus to Valletta.
Mr Malcolm Mifsud
Sep 13th 2011, 09:58
To be able to arrive in Valletta from Fgura this morning, I had to take the 91 bus to Marsascala at 6.40 a.m., stop on a Zabbar bus stop, cross to a bus stop on the opposite side of the street and finally be able to manage to board a bus from Zabbar to Valletta. I punched present at the office at 7.31. Had I waited on the Fgura bus stops to reach Valletta I would have been late for sure. It's useless sending half empty buses from Marsascala, the populations at Marsascala, Zabbar, Fgura and Paola are far to big for one single route. Stop trying making a profit on a shoestring budget please and give us a decent service.
J Degabriele
Sep 13th 2011, 09:53
Come off it Arriva! My husband uses the bus service to go to Valletta once in a while. Up to 3 weeks ago he spent 10 minutes at Rabat to get on the bus to Valletta - extremely reasonable. Today he spent 45 minutes at the same bus stop waiting for a bus to arrive!! Is this what you call improvement? Shame!!
Adrian Muscat
Sep 13th 2011, 09:41
This is a new system for the better....locals need to learn how to make the most of it (trade unions often say that we are a special breed blessed by special talent!)....some passengers are obviously picking either the wrong bus or wrong bus stop.... and complaints of overcrowding and mass meetings at bus bays should be taken as positive... residents are eager to use public transport. Tune up the system to be on punctual pls....and btw driving standards are declining....right hand hanging out of the window....indicators not working....especialy so in the case of bendy busses. Good Luck.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Sep 13th 2011, 10:03
Adrian Muscat why did they change all the routes and people having to catch two or three buses to go from A to B?
Do you call that improvement?
A Caruana
Sep 16th 2011, 14:44
And give back the direct Buses which have been stolen from certain localities like Marsascala!!
PAUL BUSUTTIL
Sep 13th 2011, 09:36
Dear Mr. Barstow it seems you are a failure and your words cant be believed.
Frederick Gauci
Sep 13th 2011, 20:45
With all due respect my friend, with your argument the goverment have been a failure for ages now but he is still in command of this island.
Jurgen Rekkers
Sep 13th 2011, 09:33
Just traveled from Msida round-a-bout to Sliema Ferries. I was at the bus stop at 8.25. Till 8.50 no bus came (from any route). At 8.50 no 11 came already full-up (how is that possible, how many stops are there between Valletta and Msida?). At 9.00 a bus came, arrived at Sliema at 9.15. This is unacceptable, 45 minutes to travel from Msida to Sliema. I pity anyone who has to use Arriva for any other longer route. I'll be using my car again for the rest of the week.
Mr M Borg
Sep 13th 2011, 12:52
You are right there are not many bus stops between Valletta and Msida. The trouble is that these buses are leaving Valletta with standing passengers and are unable to stop at any bus stops.
The No.11 bus goes to Sliema Ferries but anyone who wants to go to St.Julians- Pembroke - Bugibba - Mellieha and even Cirkewwa must make use of it !!
Buses 12 and 13 are not any better , they always pass full.
Francis Attard
Sep 13th 2011, 09:31
Dear "Arriva",
Why don't you go back where you came from and never set foot on this island of ours any more. We were, by far, better-off, before you came here, in spite of all the problems the public transport might have had. You are more stubborn than the bus owners we had before. The commuters are continuously 'begging" for you to opt for the old routes, and you keep 'Arrogantly' to ignore them. Therefore, do us a favour and GET LOST.
Frederick Gauci
Sep 13th 2011, 21:31
Mr.Attard before telling anyone to get lost it is better to check and see who designed the routes. I am realy sorry to tell you that after two months you are still blaming the operator for the routes. Can I ask you a simple question ? If their is an architect and design a house, than the building contractor builds the house on the plans, after they find out that it is wrongly built. In your experience of a judge ( because it is how it looks ) WHO YOU BLAIM ? The architect or the contractor ??????
Mr Victor vella
Sep 13th 2011, 09:21
I was very pleased to hear that Arriva is trying to report a positive day. Yesterday I was told that people who wanted to go from SLH to Mosta had to wait for more than half an hour for a bus to arrive!!! Yes indeed a very positive day!!!!
C Muscat
Sep 13th 2011, 11:41
It is always better than waiting for two or three hours!!LOL
Maria Debono
Sep 13th 2011, 09:02
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Bastow? The peolple of LIja who found that they have been excluded from NO43 to give their place to the students of Goivanni Curmi? or the people of M'Scala who have to wait for more than an hour for their bus to tuern up? Or those people waiting for a bus to Mater Dei which wouls arriv an hour late making ptients late for appointments. Mr Bastow, you are accountable... to the maltese people
C Muscat
Sep 13th 2011, 11:39
You are right Maria. He is accountable to the maltese people and mind you the maltese people are paying both the money and the hassle the money for arriva and the hassle for us.
Frederick Gauci
Sep 13th 2011, 21:36
Why all this hassle on the route 43???? From the roundabout to the tower it is only a 10 minute walk. I understand that you will tell me know because of the rain , if an old person has to go to the tower. You are more than right, but if I am not wrong on the stop where the old route 40 stopped there is a stop for the route 106, that goes to the tower and keeps ongoing to the village core, so it is better than the 43. Try to find the best route for you before complaining. it is only a matter of choose the best route for your needs.
Gary Jameson
Sep 14th 2011, 09:46
F Gauci -
You miss a vital point. Route 43 left Lija and picked up passengers in Birkikara who could not board buses 41 & 42 because they come from the north and are FULL!
Now that bus 43 will wander around Naxxar afore getting to Birkikara, there is a danger that it will also be full.
Plus Arriva promised a new route from Naxxar to Valletta, nothing was said about changing route 43.
John Spiteri
Sep 13th 2011, 09:02
Why don't you ask working people travelling from the North of the Island what they think of the new service, not pensioners going to the market, who are not under pressure to get to work on time. The bus services including the first number 12 and 31 from Qawra are running late in the mornings by 10mins. I am still arriving to work 15 minutes later than i use to with the old service!
Getting a bus from Valletta after 3pm is stilla nightmare. You cannot get on a number 11, 12,31 and i always fail to see the 41. God help the people of Mellieha. Its dreadful because the choice of service is so limited and the routes are far too long still!
john muscat
Sep 13th 2011, 09:00
According to your report above it seems that only Mr. Bastow have seen an improvement, otherwise all the blogs were complaints. Where are the TM officers? Or they don't use Arriva?
j brincat
Sep 13th 2011, 08:36
It is not what Arriva says, it is what the commuters feel about their service that counts.
Judging by progress to date Arriva has still a long way to go!
(jb)
Mr V Mercieca
Sep 13th 2011, 08:16
I believe that Arriva must work harder to get its house in order.
Two incidents I met with yesterday Monday 12th.
On the bus stop Tal-Pieta I waited for about 45 minutes for bus 122. This bus is supposed to pass every 30 minutes. I had to give up take the first bus to Valletta and walk it to the Custom House area.
I took bus 23 from Valletta to San Gwann. When I arrived at my destination I noticed that there were 2 other Arriva busses behind the one I alighted from. One was 21 and wonder of wonders the other was another 23 and without any passengers.
When abroad I use public transport and I observe that drivers do stop on bus stops even if there are no passengers to pick up and also in some instances they drive rather slow while at other times they drive rather fast. I learned that they do this to keep up with the scheduled time table as otherwise if they drive past empty bus stops they would be early at the next bus stop etc etc
I believe it may take years for Arriva to arrive at this stage and must take a lot of discipline on the drivers to accurately calculate the arrival time at each bus stop.
Stefan Mifsud
Sep 13th 2011, 07:24
I would suggest that to avoid having the route 91getting full up easily, I would reroute new bus service 84 (of ta ganza area) to pass from Fgura and then to tac-Cawsli. From this Fgura commuters would benefit a lot: 1) more chance of finding a bus with available spaces, 2)would be able to commute directly to Zejtun
Catherine Caruana
Sep 13th 2011, 06:56
From the amount of comments published under this article it seems that Mr.Bastow does not know the meaning of the word POSITIVE.Very sorry to say this.But far from positive sir.Especially for us Kalkara residents living in St. Liberata Street everything remained the same. Still no bus transport service here.With Arriva we can say that we commuters went from bad to worse.
Joseph Fenech
Sep 13th 2011, 06:15
It is useless to stay here commenting. They are saying it was a positive day and this for me means they arrive doens't care about the people. I had to wait another 1 hour for Sliema to Mellieha. So if today was a positive day, what will happen when schools open again?
C Muscat
Sep 13th 2011, 05:55
Veru l-poplu malti kbir biex jiflah ghal dan is-swat. Mhux ta b'xejn irbahna il-gwerer. Kellu bzonn il-Madonna terga tidhol ghalina f'din is-siegha ta' prova. Swat minn kullimkien.
James Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 23:36
@Mr Mark Seychell – (and Mr Cassar). My how lucky you are! So we do not know how to cope with change? When this change entails that you had a bus route and you do not have it anymore of course we cannot cope. When the change entails that one has to walk for over 15 to 20 minutes to get to a bus stop (I personally do not mind it but I am thinking of elderly people and mothers with babies) and then to have to wait for over 30 minutes (at times even an hour) to board a bus, then yes one cannot cope with the change.
I live in the Fleur de Lys, B’Kara. During the old bus service days we had the 71 route which was very efficient with buses leaving the terminus every 15 minutes. Now this is one of the routes (among quite a number of others) which has been disconitued. People in the area have now to walk up to Mriehel or to Valley Road to catch either a Rabat or Cirkewwa bus. Both these routes are heavily patronized. So by the time they get to our area they are full. My wife had an appointment last week at Zejtun at 10. So she was on the bus at 8:15. She managed to be in Valletta at 9:20. She waited for over three quarters of an hour to board a bus to Zejtun. After waiting for such a long time without any success she had to forgo her visit and return back home. More of the same. I usually used to take my children to the beach two or three times a week. This summer we had to do without these outings because after trying for three times and not managing to board a bus to St Paul’s Bay for over an hour each time, I decided to take my children back home each time. I did not try to go anymore because I do not want my children to keep getting disappointed.
So you see we have been relative prisoners in our own homes because of our lack of coping with this change. Had it been a change for the better we might have coped. However since the change was for the worse we couldn’t but moan, groan and unable to cope with it.
The buses are definitely better looking and more comfortable. The drivers are definitely better dressed and less rude. The rude, spitting, swearing cowboys (many of whom, I found to be quite the opposite to how you described them, although there were a number who fitted your description) in their rusty tins on wheels (a number of which were new as the new Arriva buses but without the A/C) serviced us very well. New buses and well educated drivers do not make a service on their own. Punctuality, frequency, and routes do. Until we have these, I am sorry I will not be able to cope with the change.
Those who are comfortable themselves, whether because they drive or whether because the service in their area is up to scratch and therefore couldn't care less what others are enduring are just arrogant people with no empathy whatsoever.
J. Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 23:17
I don't use Arriva and will never do since by the time I walk to my nearest bus stop I am already at work! So since I use my car, I do observe a number of points as follows:
1) I see a lot of buses going to Mosta from Lija - EMPTY. Why?
2) Many bus drivers are just stopping in the middle of the road jamming traffic. Now if you pass them, expect a ticket or a head on collision with another car coming from the opposite direction. Constitiution Str.near the car dealers showroom is just one example from many I have seen.
3) I also noticed that indicators are not always being used. I nearly saw an accident today where the bus was overtaken, there was no indicator and the bus drove off. Everyone can make mistakes, but seeing it quite frequently is not a good sign!
4) Last Sunday I was driving near dingli cliffs coming from Girgenti. And I saw an Arriva bus coming from the limits of Siggiewi. Wow!. What on earth the bus was doing there!!!!! Who leaves there? Who goes there? Maybe a family or two, but I am sure they have a car. I am also pretty sure that the people at dingli want to go home ASAP and not going for a sightseeing tour.! I followed the bus loughing all the way. Than I saw a minivan with route x108 or x107 I forgot and that route seems to be even worse.
5) And why the software is not ready? That is Arriva fault - no excuses!
Mario Desira
Sep 12th 2011, 22:41
Rubbish! Route 72 is still running late and not keeping to schedule, with buses either not operated or late - and at times departing early! Buses leaving on time as per schedule are still a minority. So if this is still happening when now Arriva has enough drivers and buses, then it boils down, like pointed in previous observations to incompetence!
Mr Tony Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 22:25
STOP THIS CHARADE.
GIVE A LICENSE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO OPERATE ON THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT SERVICE.
DOES THE EU COMMISSION KNOW ABOUT GONEZI REPLACING ONE MONOPOLY WITH ANOTHER?
Mr Charles.C. Brown
Sep 12th 2011, 22:18
i said it berfore and i say it again unless you go back to theold routes and timetables this new network is never going to work . public transport is for the maltese public to use daily for work and to go whever they please in the shortest way possible and not to go sightseeing round malta. this is not something that people are going to get used to, like for instance the change to the euro. This is going to cost the PN loads of votes no commuter nationalist labour or whatever is happy in this situation . this is going to cost the PN the election big time . the PN should check to see if those in transport malta who caused this chaos are some labour diehards who are trying to put spanners in the spocks for the PN. If then they turn out to be PN they should be sacked from there jobs. its better to lose their votes then thousands of votes. as i said before all the people wanted was new buses and decent drivers , they got that alright, and then some HMAR from TM comes along and ruine everthing. PN take note!
E. Azzopardi
Sep 12th 2011, 22:03
To those suggesting to bring back the old, dirty, uncomfortable buses, with the arrogant and rude drivers, I say: Haven't you inhaled enough dangerous and toxic fumes detrimental to your and everybody's health? Haven't you boarded enough filthy buses with brooms all over the place? Haven't you been shouted at, ignored whilst waiting on the bus stops etc etc? Or are your standards so low that you accepted all this with grace? How short is your memory. No, the old filthy buses with their rude drivers will never come back. I am ready to be patient some more time at all costs. When Arriva get its act together, which it will, you shall be full of praise.
cettina portelli
Sep 13th 2011, 18:14
this is NOT what is being said....HELLO? WAKE UP! commuters want the old routes and timetables back....THAT IS ALL
J. Azzopardi
Sep 12th 2011, 21:52
Transport Malta and Arriva are asleep at the wheel - choosing to ignore all complaints and comments from the commuters and stating that there was a "positive reaction from the majority of our passengers". Drivers on the other hand, pass the buck by telling the passengers to complain to Arriva and it's not their problem!!
Howcome nobody complained about the change of drivers in Marsa park and ride... It took over 15mins for the drivers to change whilst we were waiting on the bus... which means another 15mins added to our never ending journey from Valletta to B'bugia, as if the passengers have nothing better to do after a day of work!!!
@M. Mifsud - "Min xarrbu kielu l-bakkaljaw"
Is-servizz ta' qabel kien hazin u l-bakkaljaw kien tiga mxarrab! Il-bidla definitavament kien hemm bzonnha!! L-problema hi li l-bakkaljaw kompla jixxarab min nies bhal ministru li ma jirkibx tal-linja u biddel kollox kif jahseb hu minflokk qieghed jisma' n-nies li ta' kuljum jirkbu tal-linja!!
Sharon Scicluna
Sep 12th 2011, 21:20
The service will never ever be better not even if Arriva introduces more bus routes. With the old system we were served with bus terminus nearly in every town - Birkirkara for example had two bus terminus, one by St. Helen's Church and the other by the 'Gnien l-Istazjon, Mosta for example had a bus terminus which was situated by the Fitwell showroom, in Hope street, and from 6am to 11am, bus 58 used to leave this terminus to serve the people of Mosta and beyond to Valletta, At present the people of Mosta and Birkirkara have to wait for the buses coming from Cirkewwa, Bugibba etc and then one wonders why they are always full up.. Yes, kemm konna ahjar meta konna aghar... Introduce the same old routes Austin Gatt!!
Matthew Vella
Sep 13th 2011, 05:23
Not for everyone. For me, living in qawra, its been a definite improvement.
J. Debono
Sep 12th 2011, 21:19
We must admit that though the service is far from perfect, it is improving.
Improving is the KEY word, as in the old bus system, routes were left as status quo for the past 50 years.
With this service, routes launched were a bit better than before, and they are being amended regularly to reflect the need of the Maltese people.
Regarding Zurrieq are, I must say we are much improved. Before we only had 34 to Valletta and that's it. All connections in valletta.
Nowadays we have route 71 replacing route 34 to Valletta.
New routes are the circular through our villages 117, and 118.
Route 102 to Hagar Qim Lapsi and Siggiewi.
And from the Airport we have 4 routes to Cirkewwa, Bugibba, sliema and Birzebbugia (whereas before we had to go to Valletta for these connections)
Therefore route wise, we are much better. Regarding punctuality, that is still a bit of a problem, but admittedly improving.
Mario Desira
Sep 12th 2011, 22:45
It takes twenty minutes for 118 to travel from Zurrieq to Zurrieq (!) almost empty of passengers.
This is sheer waste of time and money and while other routes are crying for more frequent buses!
A minibus can easily accomodate this service freeing larger buses for direct routes. For some reason Arriva does not want to realise this......................
Doris Farrugia
Sep 13th 2011, 09:28
Of course Zurrieq are doing well with this service.Don't forget that Manwel Delia seems to be contesting the next general election on that district.How I wish he was doing it on our district Gudja/Ghaxaq cause our situation would have been otherwise.WE ARE STILL WITHOUT A BUS SERVICE.
john farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 21:13
always sliema what about the villages
john farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 21:10
To Mr John Montague...
what about Gudja and Ghaxaq 2 villages with No service.where do you live?
joe Grima
Sep 12th 2011, 20:53
The Maltese could only be happy if they complain. get used to it ...ti's their favourite pass time and they are experts at it !!
Mr M Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 21:04
Would you be happy and thank Arriva if you had to wait for over an hour at Bus Stop " Dud " which is near the Tower in Tower Road Sliema for bus 11 to take you to Cirkewwa ?
Would you still be thankful and not complain if and note I wrote " if " you do manage to board the bus you know that a journey from this bus stop now takes 1.50 mins - 2hrs when before you used to make it in 45 mins ??
john farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 21:15
came and live in gudja and see if you do not complain you too... to go to work,,
J. Azzopardi
Sep 12th 2011, 21:24
It seems like you do not use the bus that often Mr Grima.
W St.John
Sep 12th 2011, 21:56
Agree 100000%.How boring...
Mr Tony Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 22:37
Pity you are also Maltese gemgem complaining joe Grima
Tim Gauci
Sep 12th 2011, 23:23
Isn't it illogically how a MALTESE starts a sentence with "The Maltese.." ?
susan pace
Sep 13th 2011, 00:17
you will be be an expert too Mr Joe Grima if you wait from 6.00pm till 7.05pm at bugibba terminus for number 11 to go to Mellieha. ant this was monday evening. the BIG day
Frederick Gauci
Sep 13th 2011, 22:11
Mr.M.Borg you really make me laugh when you say that a trip from sliema to Cirkew took only 45 mins. With what you went ?? on a jet plane??? I used to work that route with a new Bus and always took me 1hr15min from sliema to cirkewwa, it is true not 1hr50min or nearly 2 hrs, but remember it starts from Valletta now not half way from sliema .
Mr John Montague
Sep 12th 2011, 20:50
"I'm pleased to report a positive day with all buses out, all shifts covered including by the newly added drivers, and a significant increase in the number of journeys provided in addition to the new routes which started yesterday - I am encouraged by the positive reaction from the majority of our passengers,"Mr Bastow told timesofmalta.com."
And the source of this "positive reaction" is - possibly the comments below???
Time for Government intervention!
Isabelle Zammit
Sep 12th 2011, 20:49
I waited for almost an hour for the bus 123 from pembroke to go to mater dei but none came! The service before the 11th september at least was always on time. They added certain roads to the route to accomodate us residents that live in Pembroke. So far so good! But they didn't even appear this morning for the first time!! I complained with arriva and said they have noted it down but i think it was useless..
Stefan Enge
Sep 12th 2011, 23:07
Forget Pembroke. The service became so bad that nobody from Pembroke take a bus anywhere and since nobody takes the bus anymore they will not come anymore..... Hen&Egg?
FRANS H SAID
Sep 12th 2011, 20:44
There can NEVER be content unless the majority of the old routes are re-installed. The fault is not ARRIVA but the minister and his collaborators.
Mr Angus Black
Sep 13th 2011, 03:00
Who has the contract Frans, Arriva or the Minister?
Who do you call to complain, Arriva or the Minister?
Do you think that Arriva wants or needs negative comments? And if their service is not satisfactory due to "the Minister and his collaborators", should not Arriva take it up with them and straighten things out?
Certain routes should be re-introduced and probably will in October and yes, in the meantime it will continue to be an inconvenience to some, but for goodness sakes, give a new system a chance and with some luck and determination, all the bellyaching will be history in a few weeks time.
Then, hopefully we will have the new clean airconditioned buses operated by smart and courteous drivers serving the public on a timely basis.
A. Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 20:30
Dalghodu fuq l-istage ta Zabbar Road il-Fgura hsibtu li kien hemm Mass Meeting bin-nies li kien hemm jistennew din l-imbierka Arriva! Minhabba li hafna Zabbarriin irhewlha lejn il-bahar l-ghada tal-festa bdew jghadu mill-Fgura mimlija. Irid ikollhok mohh ta tigiega biex ma tikkalkulax dan il-fatt u tahseb minn qabel ghal izjed xarabanks.
J Gauci
Sep 12th 2011, 20:21
GET THE OLD ROUTES. IF ARRIVA WANT TO HAVE FULL BUSES THEY ARE TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE.
Mark Amaira
Sep 12th 2011, 20:01
41 and 42 dejjem imbullati u rari! vergogna!
Mr francis darmanin
Sep 12th 2011, 19:55
Is Sliema Local Council happy with the situation of the complete disappearance of the 63 bus which was also fromerly known as the "C". This route existed for at least 50 years now some smart aleck has just eliminated it. Does the Sliema council still exist? This afternoon on my way to the Exiles beach I passed through the Gnien Indipendenza and I saw a Sleiam Council sign that said: No Dogs; No Skate-boards; No Bicycles, No Topless bathing. Had I had a crayon I would have been tempted to add: NO COUNCIL!!
Mr M Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 20:46
I agree with you 100 % buses always passed through Savoy and Dingli Street. No one ever complained.
To make matters worse bus 32 which used to pass through Dingli Street has been rerouted to pass through Mrabat the reason given is " to relieve traffic and pressure on tjhe Savoy area and Triq Rudolfu. "
We need a bus that uses the old 60 & 63 route , that is up Rue D'Argens on to Rudolph Street , Dingli Street etc.
We need buses that take us to Valletta and back with going round the island.
Maurice Cini
Sep 12th 2011, 19:12
To TRANSPORT MALTA & ARRIVA : BRING BACK THE OLD TRANSPORT ROUTES. WE URGENTLY NEED TO HAVE THE OLD BUS ROUTES AGAIN TOGETHER WITH THE SAME FREQUENCIES IN DEPARTURES AND ARRIVALS.THE NEW ROUTES ARE JUST NOT PRACTICAL FOR COMMUTERS ALL OVER THE ISLAND. WE DEMAND TO HAVE THE OLD ROUTES BACK.
Anthony Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 19:47
I agree. Could someone put up an online petition for this. Then we could see how many people will sign up to it. This could take the form of a simple question:
Do you want the old routes back and the same frequencies but with operating hours extended up till 23.00 hours?
This would act as a kind of vote of confidence on TN and Arriva's ability to manage the system of public transport as well as the ability of the transport minister to react to the needs of the country.
Mr Alfred Cassar
Sep 12th 2011, 22:49
I don't agree. They just need to be punctual and more frequent. There's no need to go to Valletta if you want to travel from Attard to Zebbug, so the circular routes are very good. WE then need to adapt for the change.
But Arriva has to make sure the timetables are kept with as much punctuality as possible, and also increase frequency. That way we should not complain having to change bus as this is normal everywhere else.
JOE ZAHRA
Sep 12th 2011, 18:59
Why is it that the Saqqajja bus stop is only for embarking. With winter coming asking people to use the main terminus by the Roman villa to embark and disembark is cruel and crazy especially to those people who livein the area of the old Verdala hotel as its a fair walk to that area from the terminus.
all I can say is that the people who designed the routes have never been or lived in Rabat .
Victor Pulis
Sep 12th 2011, 20:04
looks like they never lived in Malta!
Mr Alfred Cassar
Sep 12th 2011, 22:45
Oh no, bus 54 does not pass exactly infront of my door, I'm going to get wet to go to the bus stop 100metres away. Please ARriva make it pass infront of my door, pleeeeasssssseeeeee
Seems like the people who designed the routes have never been or lived in Attard
U ejja come on
David J Cassar
Sep 12th 2011, 18:37
Bugibba has to be served better. Valletta to Bugibba( and return) is an arduous trip. Route 31 should be streamlined to serve its primary purpose, that is to get commuters as fast as possible from Bugibba to Valletta. The meandering along the way has to be eliminated......L'iklin, Naxxar in particular, After all both of these zones are already served by other routes! Hope that Arriva settles this paradox ASAP
Mr Raymond Milford
Sep 12th 2011, 18:31
A few days ago my wife noticed some people waiting for a bus in Tower
Road Sliema in the hope of going to San Gwann and beyond whilst she
was walking to a shop in Triq ic-Cikklamini, San Gwann. On completion
of her shopping she decided to walk back home to Sliema and to her
surprise noticed the same persons that she had previously observed still
waiting for a bus. Now come on boys and girls this is not an acceptable
service for either commuters or visitors to Malta. If Arriva can not or will
not provide an acceptable service then another company that can provide
one should be found without further delay otherwise tourism will suffer
and more will wish to use their own motor vehicles on the already
congested roads.
Mr M Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 19:22
Sliema is not being served by any of the new routes. Buses do pass through Tower Road , but they are of no use to anyone who wants to board them in Sliema because by the time they get to us they are always full.
We have been saying this from the very start , but it seems that no one takes any notice.
We want buses that use the old Savoy and bus 63 route. These are the buses which were used by most of the Sliema residents, these are the buses Arriva dropped. Saying that buses pass through Mrabat is no good to us. To any one who knows Sliema, Mrabat is at the very edge of Sliema.
We want the old 645 ( Sliema Ferries to Cirkewwa ) the new 11 is a joke. Leaves Valletta with standing passengers and they still expect us to board it in Sliema.
What a joke the whole stupid routes are !!
M. Mifsud
Sep 12th 2011, 18:19
@ all of you who are lamenting in the comments posted down here:-
I remember a saying which my late grandma used to say. It goes like this :- "Minn xarrbu kielu l-bakkaljaw."
You wanted change in the bus service , you've glamoured for change in the bus service. Now you've got the change. Now you've got the change that you have been yearning for.
Now you don't like the change that was imposed on us by Transport Malta. Tough luck. You've asked for it. You wanted it.
Now stop lamenting.
"Minn xarrbu kielu l-bakkaljaw".
cettina portelli
Sep 12th 2011, 18:46
i dont know who you are talking to...but the residents in the 3cities were perfectly happy with the bus routes and schedules that we had. WE DID NOT ASK FOR CHANGE!! a bit of courtesy and cleanliness from the bus drivers were all that was required.
Mr Albert Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 19:17
I get your drift, Mr Mifsud, and I have to say i am inclined to agree with you. At the end fo the day, citizens get the treatment they deserve. Bon voyage!
Victor Pulis
Sep 12th 2011, 20:09
Mr. mifsud if you go in a shop to buy a shirt and when you get home you find out that it's torn what do you do? Say that you 'Xarrabtu u kiltu l-bakkaljaw"or go to the shop and complain? Was it your fault that the shirt was torn? Did the public have a chance to see Arriva in action? We got a closed packet and only when it was opened did we find out it was a rotten service.
M. Mifsud
Sep 12th 2011, 20:34
@Cettina Portelli.
Ms Portelli you wrote " a bit of courtesy and cleanliness from the bus drivers were all that was required".
Now you've got a lot of courtesy and cleanliness but a rotten service. Well I guess as long as you've got cortesy and cleanliness .......................
By the way, enjoy it.
M. Mifsud
Sep 12th 2011, 21:04
@ Victor Pulis
Your example or comparison ,whatever it is does not stand. First of all Mr. Pulis I go to buy a new shirt because I need a new shirt. I don't buy a new shirt just for the sake of buying a new shirt. And Mr. Pulis when I go to buy a new shirt, because I need one, I make sure that I check the shirt that I am going to purchase.
And I repeat what I have said Mr. Pulis. Many members of the public wanted a change in the public bus service. They glamoured for it. Inches and inches of newspapers columns were filled with complaints about the old bus service system. Calls for a complete overhaul were made almost every single day. Numerous comments were posted regularly in these on-line pages. I repeat these were complaints and calls for change by members of the Maltese public. By Maltese citizens and not of citizens of some faraway land.
Now the system has been changed. You've got what you've yearned for for ages. Now if you don't like it, I repeat it Mr. Pulis, yes I repeat it:- tough luck.
You've asked for it. Now bear it.
"Minn xarrbu kielu l-bakkaljaw".
Victor Pulis
Sep 13th 2011, 13:54
Mr. Mifsud you had a chance to check your shirt! The public did not have that luxury. Am i to understand that you don't think we needed a better service? We clamoured for a better service but we did not get it. We clamoured for better drivers and better buses. We never clamoured for new insane bus routes. We deserved a better service and the fault lies with those reponsible to give it not with those who demanded it. Another example? If my son wants an apple and i give him a rotten one does he have to eat it? Is he to blame for asking or am I for giving him a rotten apple? The system has been changed but we didn't get what we yearned for as you say. We yearned for a decent service. Only those who were personally hit in some way by the change such as old drivers are rubbing their hands with joy at the chaos...makes me wonder.
cettina portelli
Sep 13th 2011, 18:25
mr mifsud....you only read the last part of my text....i SAID that we in the three cities were perfectly happy with the routes and timetables that we HAD.....courtesy and cleanliness is REQUIRED but THERE WAS NO NEED TO TAMPER WITH THE ROUTES AND TIMETABLES THAT WE HAD.....how old are you? six? surely you would have picked that up!
M. Mifsud
Sep 14th 2011, 15:41
@ Victor Pulis
No Mr Pulis if you are suggesting that I am one of the old bus drivers or that I am related in any way to one of the old bus drivers I can ssure that I'm not. I am just a bus commuter. There were periods in my life during which I had to take the bus service more than twice a day. And the service worked. Now it does not.
M. Mifsud
Sep 14th 2011, 15:57
@ Ms Cettina Portelli
You asked if I was just six years old. I wish! Unfortunately Ms Portelli I am much older than six. Much older.
And yes Ms Portelli I have read all your comment. Cleanliness or no cleanliness the bus service functioned. It took us from A to B. However due to lack of cleanliness complaints were made continuosly in the media about the old bus system.
Action was taken. The system was changed and we all know the result.
Joseph Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 18:17
The X6 from Cirkewwa needs a stop at one of the Xemxija bus stops for the convenience of all Xemxija residents. Bus 41 arrives at Xemxija already full from the previous stops so making an extra stop for X6 would help to reduce this problem slightly. And don't say this is an express route! An extra bus stop will not change much and students and workers from xemxija needing to travel to central Malta get a much needed extra bus! Hardly rocket science. Come on Arriva see sense!
Anthony Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 18:06
We B'Kara residents were promised a bus from the old terminus to Valletta. It appears that this is being combined with the the one from Cirkewwa, every 30 or 60 minutes depending which bit of the brochure that they sent you read.
James Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 19:10
And by the time it gets to B'Kara it will be full - so much for a service when we had a bus leave the terminus every 15 minutes with the old "rotten" service.
Charles Vassallo
Sep 12th 2011, 17:54
Why is it that the Pembroke residents, since 3rd July are still without a bus service that allows them to travel to Msida, Pieta, Floriana, Valletta, and as a connection to the South.
Just because bus number 34 stops at Pembroke Park & Ride, is no justification to say that the residents are being served. The place is a MINIMUM 15 minutes walk to the nearest residential area, and the walk provides no shelter from buildings as it is an open area.
May the authorities realise the unnecessary hardships being caused to the young and old alike and solve this problem without more delays.
Therese Spiteri
Sep 12th 2011, 17:53
mqabba local council have voiced their opinion today.... what about ghaxaq local council... i still have not heard of anything!...and same problem still persists there too...no bus link available directly for valletta, but now one has to get two buses to go from point A to B if this happens to be outside of Ghaxaq.... journey taking you over 1 hour which is not comparible to any other transport means.
Mario Frendo
Sep 12th 2011, 17:52
I used bus 43 to go to Naxxar, (which is a good thing as before, one had to catch 2 busses to go to Naxxar from B'Kara) and it DID enter Hal Lija, and went around the Belvedere as usual before heading off to Naxxar.
Gary Jameson
Sep 12th 2011, 18:10
Are you sure about this? According to Arriva CC, the route does not serve LIja village any more.
If it did go via the Lija tower, I suspect it was a mistake.
I am using this service later so I'll stay on the bus till Lija and see what happens...
Gary Jameson
Sep 12th 2011, 19:46
Mario - I can assure you that the 43 does NOT go into Lija village, but dumps you at the bottom of the long avenue up to the tower; much to the annoyance of people who were not aware of the change.
To make it worse, Arriva or TM have marked each bus stop between Msida and Lija as 43 (Lija) and 43 (Naxxar).
I can only assume that they are deliberately going all out to confuse customers for the hell of it,
Mr M Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 17:21
@ Andrew Sare` ( (15.26 )
" just pick up the phone and call customer service 5 times a day if you want something to be done that is what it's there for. "
And what do you think I and many others have been doing ??
It is of no use, they just listen and pass on the message. When to phoned to complain about the new route being taken by bus 32 ( it used to pass through Savoy and Dingli Street on its way to Valletta , it is now passing through Mrabat ) I was told by them that the route still passes through Savoy. According to them Mrabat is Savoy.
These people do not care, and I do not mean Customer Care but Arriva and Transport Malta. Before they admit that the routes are a mess. That we do not want to go round the island before getting to our destination things will not get better.
James Aquilina
Sep 12th 2011, 16:17
We've heard Arriva tell us that the routes will be fixed and the service timley..... They're starting to sound like Gonzi and Muscat together.......
Thank god I have a motorcycle....
Ms Carmen Galea
Sep 12th 2011, 16:16
I am sure I speak for a lot of people from Mgarr. We only have 1 bus for our village No. 23..... waiting to get back home from Valletta it would take 1 hour to actually wait for our bus to get to the terminal. Then it would take us another 1 hour to get back home to Mgarr. We get to go on a merry go round, what a waste of time, could someone please see to this...... not long ago I was waiting with my son and grand daughter to go to Gnejna from Mgarr pjazza......it took over 1 HOUR!!!! after phoning Arriva helpline, we got the same answer as we always get...."it should be coming very soon", we gave up at the end and went back home to get our car..... it's great to see the new buses on the road and it would be even better for the Mgarr residents if we could get to and from our destination in less time as we are now........
Victor Pulis
Sep 12th 2011, 16:16
Now that two months of frustration have passed and it seems that the second D day (D for Disaster) has come excuse me for raising my voice but here goes.
BRING BACK THE OLD ROUTES! TRANSPORT MALTA STOP BEING STUPID AND LISTEN TO THE THOUSANDS WHO ARE TELLING YOU TO GIVE THEM BACK THE OLD ROUTES. YOURS HAVE FAILED. FGURA IS WITHOUT ADEQUATE SERVICE AS ONLY UMBER 91 PASSES THROUGH ZABBAR ROAD BUT THIS BUS HAS ALREADY PASSED THROUGH MARSASCALA AND ZABBAR AND BY THE TIME IT REACHES FGURA IT'S FULL. GIVE US BACK THE DIRECT SERVICE TO MATER DEI. DON'T BE PIG HEADED. DON'T PUSH MR. BASTOW TO THE FRONNT LINE TO FACE THE MUSIC. AND GET OUT OF YOUR AIRCONDITIONED OFFICES AND CONFRONT THE PUBLIC YOURSELVES. YOU HAVE EATENTHE PUDDING NOW EAT SOME HUMBLE PIE AND ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG.
Anthony Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 17:50
I completely agree with you.
If Arriva cannot make a profit from the service being provided then they should quit. I think that is what would happen in December after six months. They will say the Malta operation is unprofitable and unsustainable and like the Spanish helicopter company they will just give notice and leave.
Austin Gatt is too hard-headed for his own good and Laurence Gonzi cannot pick a successor.
James Dewar
Sep 12th 2011, 18:51
Victor, I am sure that I recall someone posting a very similar request re the routes on Sunday 3rd July! (and many many many others since then!! ) "They" weren't listening then and probably "they" arent listenting now!!
I don't think that you will find too many people who disagree with your sentiments which makes the response of Arriva and TM all the more puzzling and frustrating more than 2 months "down the road"!
FRANS H SAID
Sep 12th 2011, 16:12
We are in desperate need for the old routes 49 and 58. but those who decreed otherwise are well served by an official car and driver. I am refering specifically to three particular residents lining in St Paul's Bay.
Wake up Prime Minister. you are there to lead and to be led by the nose!
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 16:37
58 is now 31, and far more frequent.
Although I agree with you about 49. St Paul's Bay is grossly under served, especially in the summer months
James Dewar
Sep 12th 2011, 19:00
I can only comment as a Tourist , yes I know that will annoy some who feel that does not qualify me to have an opinion, but even as a mere (regular) visitor I completely agree re the (obvious) need to reintroduce route 49. It should never have been discontinued and I know that there are a number of other routes that suffered similar fates and that should also now be reintroduced. Humble pie is not that bad to eat and, if the "powers that be" eat as much as they deserve to, they might even get used to it!!
Ms Carmen Galea
Sep 12th 2011, 16:10
I am sure I speak for a lot of people from Mgarr. We only have 1 bus for our village No. 23..... waiting to get back home from Valletta it would take 1 hour to actually wait for our bus to get to the terminal. Then it would take us another 1 hour to get back home to Mgarr. We get to go on a merry go round, what a waste of time, could someone please see to this...... not long ago I was waiting with my son and grand daughter to go to Gnejna from Mgarr pjazza......it took over 1 HOUR!!!! after phoning Arriva helpline, we got the same answer as we always get...."it should be coming very soon", we gave up at the end and went back home to get our car..... it's great to see the new buses on the road and it would be even better for the Mgarr residents if we could get to and from our destination in less time as we are now........
G Buhagiar
Sep 12th 2011, 16:04
Sal-lum ma tantx deher xi kambjament, dalghodu karozzi tal-Arrivva bdew jghaddu mimlijin mill-Fgura u n-nies spiccaw ma rikbux. L-istess qed ikun hemm numru ta' nies fix-xemx jistennew il-venda tal-Belt! Wara xahrejn li bdew jahdmu seta' sar xi arrangament mhux kull filghodu kwazi dejjem b'xi kummiedja!
Hmistax ohra jibdew l-Iskejjel u minn jaf x'gej. Hafna karozzi jimtlew malajr bl-istudenti u n-nies jibqghu jistennew fuq l-istage, apparti minn dan qed isir xoghol f'certu toroq principali u t-traffiku ha jdum iktar.
Veru li sar titjib, pero` baqa' iktar xi jsir. Umbaghad jghidu ghax in-nies igergru. Min ikun komdu u jasal fil-hin ghax-xoghol m'ghandux ghalfejn igerger. Anke t-turisti qed jilmentaw! Bizzejjed insemmu li dawn qed ihallsu d-doppju li nhallsu ahna u qed jaghmlu sighat jistennew fix-xemx.
Gabuna nitkellmu wahidna!!!
A Saliba
Sep 12th 2011, 20:20
Ghandek mitt elf ragun. Anke minn Haz-Zabbar domna nistennew l-isbah 25 minuta dalghodu qabel ma giet xarabank. Ghalinqas ahna tlajna imma in-nies tal-Fgura il-bicca l-kbira dejjem jibqghu l-art. Basta is-servizz kull ghaxar minuti. U halluna nahseb lanqas xarabanks m'hemm bizzejjed biex jaqdu lil kulhadd. Ghalfejn dejjem irridu nitilghu bil-wieqfa akkont li qed inhallsu aktar minn qabel. Ir-rotot ghandhom jigu introdotti kif kienu qabel u mhux ninqdew bin-91 biss. Dan li jridu in-nies, kemm se ddumu ma dahhluha f'raskom din Transport Malta?
Mr Paul Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 15:47
I welcome the Valletta -Swieqi direct bus. We even saw people applauding for it's return. And the drivers were smiling back.
Mrs M. Attard
Sep 12th 2011, 15:44
Where is Bus no 91 passing from Triq il Qaliet as detailed by Arriva and TM in the revised routes info published on 22nd July in the year of our lord 2011?? Or were they referring to the revised Marsascala service starting in year 2021??? This is so pathetic, ok im going to start a hunger strike next week, will do my diet some good!!
Ms Francesca Abela
Sep 12th 2011, 17:04
Arriva = When is the Council gonna show some teeth and take concrete action against Arriva and TM??Or is our Mayor too scared to upset them and is pussyfooting around??
Mr Edward Attard
Sep 12th 2011, 15:35
Today was a nightmare travelling by Arriva from Sliema to Valletta
Mr Dominic Micallef
Sep 12th 2011, 16:30
True, don't know if it is a coincidence but it was really one of the worst days ever for boarding since 3rd July !!
Ms Josephine Campbell
Sep 12th 2011, 14:43
Yes, TRANSPORT MALTA PLEASE NOTE : please give us back our route 43 beginning from the Lija Tower. Every 15 minutes or 20 is sufficient. Locate another route for the Naxxar locality. Pass the 43 past Robert Mifsud Bonnici Street down to Balzan, etc, as the former 40. If not, the 43 should remain as it was. Route 54 MUST pass like the former 40, NOT FROM THE BOTTOM OF BALZAN FROM BIRBAL STREET and puctually every 15 or 20 minutes without bypassing and truancy. 106 should be limited to early morning, then maybe every hour, then at hospital visiting hours two or three trips at 15 minute intervals. The rest is a waste of time and resources. TRANSPORT MALTA PLEASE NOTE.
Andrew Sare'
Sep 12th 2011, 15:26
i created this account just 2 minutes ago to respond to you. it is people like you who make me angry, because you are complaining to the wrong person. do you think that arriva is going to read all these comments just to check for your lazy complaints ? just pick up the phone and call customer service 5 times a day if you want something to be done. that what it's there for.
and then again i wanted to comment about us maltese. how could it be that when something new is promised to us we rush like hungry dogs just to get a bite? I mean when the bus service first started everyone thought well ok lets go to marsa skala for the fun of it , because the buses are all ac'ed and bla bla. everyone knew there were going to be delays because of some lazy maltese drivers that didn't want to work split shifts. split shifts are used in almost every country in the eu, why not us as well ? and then comes today, the day when we are promised to get a good service, so then again we maltese rush to the bus stops to f@#$ it all up, so we can cause delays and complain again to times of malta which as i said earlier is not a place to post your complaints so that you think transport malta will read them from here. im not referring to those who need to use the bus to go to work everyday or who need to go to the hospital to visit someone, but those people who think that it's just fun to cause delays
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 16:24
Mr Sare,
I sincerely doubt that there are many Maltese who would go out to test the bus system just for the fun of it on a Monday morning. I think some of the text of the article above might just be misleading you.
Gary Jameson
Sep 12th 2011, 17:34
Andrew Sare -
You don't think Arriva read these comments. Of course they do! Must large companies read what the media is saying about them,
I spoke with Arriva on 8th September re changes to route 43. They knew nothing about it - as you do.
In the press release of 23rd July, Arriva/TM said that Naxxar was getting a new route to Valletta going via the B-kara bypass. Nothing was said about changing route 43 which is effectively the B-kara bus as routes 41 & 42 are full by the time they get to this part of Malta.
Arriva/TM have to put route 43 back to how it was and give Naxxar a new bus as promised as Lija has lost a service on which there was no consultation. I will be calling them about this. I suggest others do.
Mr Alfred Cassar
Sep 12th 2011, 22:30
Josephine, prosit how intelligent you are. You want the no 43 bus every 15minutes because you use this line but then you want the 106 every hour because you don't need it. how selfish. People like you continue to misguide. "Bus 54 MUST pass like the former 40"... how arrogant.... 'MUST pass'
We at Attard are quite happy now with the 106 and 54. We only need our buses stopping at least another stop near the ex-bus terminus, including the 202 bus, as people in that area do not have any bus passing from there. The punctuality has to improve though, otherwise it seems quite ok.
Clinton Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 14:42
Yesterday evening it took me less than 20 minutes from Gzira (Manoel Island) to Valletta and Valletta to Hamrun. I only waited for less than a minute at the Gzira Bus Stop and less than two minutes at the Valletta Bus Terminus. It was the second time that I used the Arriva service after last Friday (which was also very satisfactory). This morning it took me about 3 minutes to board a Bus from the Valletta Bus Terminus.
I'm not saying that the service is perfect but until now I think that this service is better than the previous one!
Stop politicizing every issue and let us work for a better service because at the end of the day we're the ones using it!!!!
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 15:05
'I'm not saying that the service is perfect but until now I think that this service is better than the previous one!
Stop politicizing every issue and let us work for a better service because at the end of the day we're the ones using it!!!!'
Agreed, nor will it ever be perfect. This is a bus system, delays of circa 10mins should be considered the norm. This is not a railway system, whereby the only thing the driver has in front of him is another train a good half mile or mile in front of him, and red signals. This is a bus system where bus drivers have hundreds of other cars to worry about 300metres in front of him
Doris Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 15:09
Lucky guy!Why do some localities can be so lucky than others example Gudja/Ghaxaq?We do live in the same Malta I think!
Victor Pulis
Sep 12th 2011, 16:05
Stop politicizing every issue and let us work for a better service because at the end of the day we're the ones using it!!!!
Clinton Farrugia
Clinton you just did!
Victor Pulis
Sep 12th 2011, 16:08
Mr. Seychell we were not the ones who promised that buses will be punctual to the minute. For example Departure 8.03 arriving 8.32.
Do you blame us for moaning when the bus is 30 minutes late?
Ms Francesca Abela
Sep 12th 2011, 16:51
No One is politicizing this issue, so for you, we residents of Marsascala cannot complain because it is now a Political issue?? Grow up and get a life please!! In Marsascala residents still are without a basic right - ie a direct Bus service from the major parts of the village. If you are in the same boat as us you would also complain. mela just becauswe you are all right no one else can complain?? What a total fruitcake!
Clinton Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 16:54
Did I say that the service is perfect?! All I said that I used it twice from Gzira to Hamrun between Friday and Sunday and there weren't many major delays. Did I mention politics here?! Did I applaud someone?! No because it's about time that in 2011 we have a sort of public transport which can be compared to civilized countries. Mind you, on the other hand, my wife is complaining about major delays between Hamrun and Mriehel.
Michaela Portelli
Sep 12th 2011, 14:20
We were promised a direct bus from Gudja to Valletta - we didn't get it. And even worse: we are still not served by Arriva but our route is subcontracted which means 1 minibus drives from the airport to Marsaskala and back, nobody knows when and all you can do is go to a busstop and wait and wait and wait.... What did improve on 11th September is that it's not that hot anymore whilst you wait.....
Catherine Caruana
Sep 12th 2011, 14:19
Do the Arriva authorities know how ridiculous they can be when they promise commuters that come the 12Sept.everything will run normally??This morning I was at a Cottonera stage at 5mins.to 8 am.hoping to catch the 8o'clock bus.always taking Mr.Bastow words for granted.But how deluded all the waiting commuters including myself were!!The 80'clock bus was skipped and we had to wait another half hour to catch the half past 8 one.Very sorry Arriva.For us Cottonera residents nothing changed.You are giving us a very mediocre service and taking us for a ride.
cettina portelli
Sep 12th 2011, 18:57
the early no.2 0550am was 30minutes late arriving at the riche bus stop in bormla AS USUAL...then. at 0625am there were two buses no.2 and 3 chasing each other with one of them empty....what craziness is this? forty or so commuters waiting since 0545am till 0620am and then two buses! AND WE ARE STILL GETTING TO WORK LATE BECAUSE THE EARLY BUS DOESNT ARRIVE ON TIME!!
Mr Alfred Dimech
Sep 12th 2011, 14:17
I noticed that the Arriva drivers are obeying traffic laws like the Right of Way, never ignoring red traffic lights and never threatening to push any overtaking car off the road. They also wait for elderly to get off the bus properly before driving off. Absurd! This has to stop! How do they expect to arrive on time with this sort of behaviour? Where do they think they are, England? Bring back the old Kings of the Road, chest hair and all.
Seriously, some of the unchanged routes are taking much longer than they used to and I'm noticing that the drivers are more timid than their predecessors.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Sep 12th 2011, 14:13
Trial and error. This is not the way to manage a public bus service.
Mr Angelo Vassallo
Sep 12th 2011, 13:56
"All buses are expected to run according to schedule as of tomorrow" Arriva director Piers Marlow said on Sunday 11/09/2011, that is, only yesterday
The above was only reported yesterdat by this same site. From feed back all of us are getting is that it is a total FLOOP once agaiin.
@ Arriva, Marlow and Bastow: You should all be ASHMED for this joke you are operating in Malta. You made us the laughing stock of the whole European Union.
@ TM - Imisskom tisthu, intom ukoll hammartulna wiccna mal-Erwopa kollha. Lis-settur turistika tajtuh DAQQA ta' HARTA kbira.
Sepliciment IDDISGUSTAT.
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 14:51
I'm sure the EU has more pressing concerns.
On a side note, because I'm merely curious...do you use the buses, Mr Vassallo?
Mrs M. Attard
Sep 12th 2011, 13:54
D- Day = Disater continues day lol ;-))
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Sep 12th 2011, 13:53
At Valletta Terminus, at 12.30 crowds. It is becoming more evident that Arriva is trying to make miracles. To transport more passengers with too few buses. I met two ladies from Senglea, on my way to the Terminus. The bus from Senglea was really on time ! They waited from 9.00 until 9.45 a.m. (Sorry, not standard time but Arriva time)
Neville Roberts
Sep 12th 2011, 13:49
Well done Arriva, your doing your best under this extreme situation and the way you have been treated is despicable. Having worked in the transport Industry in the UK all my life and experienced this sort of attitude, no matter how good you are, the public will always knock you down even if your better than before. Here in Malta they moan and moan but never do anything constructive. Half these people don't even use the buses, just sit at home on the computer having a moan at everything. I have used the new buses and I find them very good, clean and comfortable unlike the old ones which usually had only one gauge working " the oil pressure gauge", never the speedo and sometimes dodgy brakes. Keep it up Arriva they will go on moaning until you call at their front doors every 5 minutes, but ignore them, your doing a great job !!!
Doris Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 15:05
For sure you do not live Gudja/Ghaxaq cause your comment would have been otherwise cause since Arriva took over we ended without a bus service.Don't mention the airport cause Gudja/Ghaxaq is not the airport.Of course we don't use the buses because we don't have any!
James Dewar
Sep 12th 2011, 15:52
Neville, Arriva have only themselves to blame as their propoganda and launch of the new service obviously promised considerably more than they were ever going to achieve in the early months even without the "no show" drivers. Yes the new buses are clean and comfy and I don't thgink you will find many (if any) to disagree with that. However as you will no doubt agree there is a lot more to providing a satisfactory public transport service that having a clean and comfy bus. For a start if it doesnt appear (either on time or sometimes never) that is unacceptable. If the clean and comfy bus drives past a queue of tired and weary commuters full up with not even standing space, that is unacceptable. If the route previously taken got you directly to your destination in a sensible time and the new service takes twice as long and involves changes of bus, that also is unacceptable. We live in the real world and reality suggests that there will always be practical challenges and issues to deal with and an element of "grin and bear it" will frequently be necessary. By any standards the travelling public of Malta and tourists alike have had a very raw deal since 03/07 and it is to be hoped that things will improve dramatically from here.
Ms Francesca Abela
Sep 12th 2011, 17:03
Another apple polisher! Come and try getting to Valletta from near St Thomas Bay, then we will see your new song!!
James Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 19:23
@Mr Roberts, their best is not good enough especially by the standards of the service we had before. Waiting to board a bus for over 30 minutes sometimes even an hour is no joke, especially when one uses the service everyday for all travelling needs. Please suggest something constructive we could do and we'll do it because most of us have had it up to here with the bad service Arriva is delivering to most locailities. In the mean time the only thing we can do is moan and moan. If we hadn't moaned the new routes which came into force today wouldn't have materialised. So moaning can lead to something. And we'll keep on moaning until things get better and we get the service we deserve. Or until some clever johnny will suggest what we could do instead of moaning.
P Scerri
Sep 12th 2011, 13:46
"The Valletta-Bugibba route 31 appeared to have more buses deployed, but a dispatching problem persisted. At one time, at 9.25 a.m., three buses, one of them a bendy bus, were following each other North bound along the Birkirkara Bypass"
The same happened earlier in the morning. I waited for the 31 bus for 30 mins from 7.20am to 7.50am then 3 buses turned up at Bombi bus stop at the same time.
I was optimistic this morning that I would get to work on time but was quickly disillusioned!
Joe Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 13:45
The introduction of route 54 from Valletta to Attard is very much welcomed.Today I managed a trip from Valletta to Attard in 35 minutes (including the 10 minutes that it was late) During the past two months it took me even two hours! Unfortunately the printed time table on bus stops is not correct as it says every hour when it is every 30 minutes. I hope that every locality will benefit from some good changes.
Anthony Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 17:54
And it passes outside the American ambassador's residence. I don't think he'll be too pleased with the noise from the air-conditioning of the buses.
Grace Caruana
Sep 12th 2011, 13:40
Arriva & Tumas group have to invest more money in the system to make it work better!! Who is going to fork out this money?? The contract was signed on what we have at the moment with this amount of buses.We wait and see.
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Sep 12th 2011, 13:34
ARRIVA HAS TO GO - THE PEOPLE HAVE LONG SUFFERED TOO MUCH INCONVENIENCE. THEY HAVE NEVER HAD SUCH A LOUSY PUBLIC TRANSPORT SERVICE AS THIS,WHEN THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UP TO SCRATCH SINCE DAY ONE, LET ALONE THREE MONTHS LATER!!!
A local Public Bus Transport Service has to be properly structured,avoiding all the avoidable obstacles Malta had in the past. ARRIVA has to compensate THE PUBLIC [ not the Government or any one of its Ministers ]to the liquidated amount per day commencing since ARRIVA was marked to begin operations at state-of-the-art level.
Public Buses must be commeasurable with our road structure,so there is no room for these extremely dangerous bendy-buses,much less for drivers who drive such buses recklessly and some of the Arriva drivers are doing exactly just that.
Malta requires a well-organized Public Transport Bus Service which has to be managed by Maltese who at least comprehend local culture as to how we carry out our affairs.
ARRIVA - ARRIVEDERCI...................prego!!
FRANS H SAID
Sep 12th 2011, 16:09
I think you should amend your statement - The Minister has to go, and if the Prime Minister and Cabinet keep on supporting him, they have to go also.
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 16:35
Dr Bezzina...
How long is it since you used any bus service in Malta?
'THEY HAVE NEVER HAD SUCH A LOUSY PUBLIC TRANSPORT SERVICE AS THIS'
Not true. I think many can agree with me on this, even a large number of those who are disappointed with Arriva.
'WHEN THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UP TO SCRATCH SINCE DAY ONE'
If you truly believed this, then I apologise should I cause any offence, but you are out of touch with reality, and no amount of suffixes added to your name will change that. I don't think anyone expected a perfect bus system from day 1.
'there is no room for these extremely dangerous bendy-buses'.
On this, and only on this, I agree 100%. Having spent some time living in Brussels, even the bendy buses there find difficulty, let alone in our streets.
'managed by Maltese who at least comprehend local culture'
How is that different to any other culture? As far as I am aware, the only culture relevant in public transport is arriving on time, one which is shared by most cultures in these day and age of Globalisation.
D. Armeni
Sep 12th 2011, 13:31
Finally there is a bus for Psaila Street B'Kara / Santa Venera, and the bus shelters are not for decoration anymore. Could not understand the map updated on ARRIVA website regarding Bus 54. Does it take too much to put up a proper map from departure point to arrival point on a website? Does it take too much to decide at what time is the bus going to leave Valletta or Attard? On the map it says 60 min underneath it says 30 min. Only in Malta. :) Does any ARRIVA employee check the information before putting it on the website? Do we have to make a fool out of ourselves?
So I deceided to follow the route on various bus stops from Psaila Street towards Valletta. I lost it at the end by the roundabout near Hamrun. Wondering where the bus would proceed (as there was no indication) i phoned up the Customer care. A polite lad informed me that it would go through the tunnels in Santa Venera and take a detour towards Marsa, Mainroads apparently. There are few bus stops there, if any? I am sure from Dicembru 13 street other buses go through. towards Valletta.
So it's not rocket science to get the bus going on straight ahead through Hamrun, passing in front of LIdl, Kuncizzjoni and proceed towards Valletta from there. this mainroad has been deprived of any bus. Come on, be realistic, you stop a service in the middle of the street?
Why do we have to complicate life when things are so easy. Why?
And to all those who say that the Maltese people are always complaining, I say that when the Maltese people are satisfied, (hence happy) nobody says a thing, nobody complains. Surely it's not the case here. Isn't it ARRIVA?
j brincat
Sep 12th 2011, 13:30
@Mark Seychell
"I have used the system multiple times (even up to 6 times a day!!!) and have never found a problem aside from the odd day once in a blue moon. And I use the system both in the North and the South of the Island"
Then, you are living in a completely different planet than the rest of us!
(jb)
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 14:47
Possibly, yet I still see the sun rising in the west and setting in the east.
Doris Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 15:17
For sure you did not use the southern service to Gudja/Ghaxaq cause there isn't any.Don't be misled and take the no. 8 to Gudja?Ghaxaq cause it does not exist anymore and there isn't another number replacing it cause Gudja?Ghaxaq have been wiped off the route map.
Doris Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 15:21
My previous comment was directed@mark Seychell.Sorry
B. Pollacco
Sep 12th 2011, 15:27
I use the bus regularly as well and even i don't find problems sometimes !! if we stop with this negative attitude we might see the positives for once !
Mr Biker Man
Sep 12th 2011, 19:27
B Pollacco. You're right. I firmly believe that the reason why there are much more negative comments than positive ones, is that the many hundreds of commuters that are being well served by Arriva on a daily basis, won't take time to write here and applaud Arriva. It's the moaners and groaners who feel like kinda happy to meet here and make a gemgem meeting. As from yesterday, my locality Swieqi is being better served after adjusting the routes as suggested by the public. Buses are passing by at regular intervals, without much noise and no black smoke. Now we have a bus company that is not perfect true, but it is giving heed to the commuters' suggestions to improve the service, slowly but surely. NOT LIKE BEFORE.
Mr M Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 13:29
@Mark Vella (11.44)
" If the busses are passing Full Up , it means that the service is being used. "
That is not the main reason that " Buses are passing Full Up ". These new routes are a mess. When you have the same buss going round half the island you are bound to get a full bus.
If I have to go to San Gwann, Mater Dei, Kappara University before coming to Sliema does it not stand to reason that the bus will be full ?
Anne Marie Kissaun
Sep 12th 2011, 16:44
Well, I do agree with your comment. However, in my opinion, as a bus passenger myself, I think it is useless trying to patch up the original layout of the bus routes, which, I assume were organised by TM and passed on to Arriva. What would have worked really having left the old routes until bus users got used to them then eventually made changes were necessary, i.e. adding other routes gradually. I am sure that this would have worked out better and I am sure more people would have made use of Arriva busses from the start rather than now having more private cars on the road creating more jams then ever before, including never ending complaints. It is a pity as they are very nice busses, perhaps, some of them are a bit too big for Malta. I was really looking forward to this new Arriva service having used these busses in the UK and never had a problem. Very punctual too. Punctuality of busses in Malta will reign when we get more people using the Bus service, i.e. less private cars on the road and when the routes are shortened considerably and not having to do IL GIRO DI MALTA.
Gordon Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 13:10
My friends come from Germany every year,they always used the buses,this year they gave up and rented a car-the reason, journey from Sliema to Ghadira bay took 1 1/2 hours.It means three hours travelling on a tiny island.
Mr Ernest Vella
Sep 12th 2011, 13:04
I just arrived from Valletta....Arriva had a very good performance to Zebbug: Route 61...a very helpful driver, nice voyage....indeed a very good service compared with the old service...the same can be said to the University and to Mater Dei...my first time but sure not the last time
Mr Michael Buhagiar
Sep 12th 2011, 12:50
as the minister rightly said complaints will always be there even if a fly passes by while waiting for a bus. But YES, the service is ameliorating itself and very soon we will have what truly we deserve, a civil bus service. Rude drivers are to be reported immediately so that they will be thrown out of the company.
Mr George Calleja
Sep 12th 2011, 12:50
Haga hija certa u din hi li l-gazzetti u l-mezzi l-ohra m'ghandhomx affarijiet ohra x'jirrappurtaw u allura qed ifittxu lil xi hadd li jgemgem u malajr jaghmlu storja. Halluhom jahdmu u tkomplux taghmlu l-bsaten fir-roti.
Ms Francesca Abela
Sep 12th 2011, 17:02
Dont make us laugh George! Come near the ex Jerma Hotel in Marsascala and try getting to Valletta. We are sure you will sing a different song if you do!! Stop licling please!
James Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 20:01
@George Calleja
Don't make us laugh. Start using the buses yourself before criticising others who have been waiting patiently to get the service they were promised.
Mr Carmel Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 12:47
Reading most of the blogs it seems that few people are understanding that the routes and their frequency has nothing to do with Arriva but were drawn up by Transport Malta. It is on the basis of these routes and frequencies that Arriva placed its tender. If these keep on changing then the scope, price and end result of the tender will also change. Arriva is responsible to keep the original routes according to the original timetable. Now since these keep on changing every other day I cannot see how Arriva can be blamed....
mario gellel
Sep 12th 2011, 12:28
DON'T WORRY GUYS. AGOSTINO GAVE US THE GO AHEAD TO MOAN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 12:17
I've said it many times and I've said it again..we Maltese do not know how to cope with change.
I have used the system multiple times (even up to 6 times a day!!!) and have never found a problem aside from the odd day once in a blue moon. And I use the system both in the North and the South of the Island.
One time, the number 23 bus came 45mins late at Golden Bay, that's when the Czech dignitary was in town. Another time, when I was traveling to St. Julian's, none of the 11/12/13 buses did not pass for 20mins, when they are supposed to have a frequency of every 5 mins or so. Another time, the 31 bus did not turn up at Bugibba until 15mins after it was supposed to leave, despite having a frequency of a bus every 10mins.
Aside from these three isolated and unrelated incidents, I have never found a problem with the Arriva system since I started using it back in the beginning of August.
But enough about me. Yes there will be complaints. Yes there will be problems. No system is perfect, from out bus system right to London Transport. But on the whole, I think the system has changed ten times for the better from the old system.
I have one thing to say to the government, and any other future government (given the elections are so close): Stop changing things for the better for the Maltese community. We cannot handle change. Scrap these comfortable, air conditioned, and mostly punctual buses, sack these polite, helpful well dressed drivers. Bring back the rude, spitting, swearing cowboys in their rusty tins on wheels.
Deo Catania
Sep 12th 2011, 12:43
Mela skond int kulhadd jigdeb qieghed. Minflok tigi tpeclaq li l-Maltin m'humiex kapaci jaccettaw bidla ahjar tghid kemm hawn min ihobb jilaq basta jidher helu.
Brian Gatt
Sep 12th 2011, 12:55
Mr Seychell,
You must be either receiving a privelaged treatment or you are twisting the truth for some hidden agenda. The service improved ? No, and service I mean that you get to travel from Point A to Point B at the appointed time in relative comfort, so yes the answer to this questions should be NO the service deteriorated. We have better looking Bus Drivers....improved Bus Driver's attitude, but for the rest everything promised by Onor Dr Gatt was completly flushed down the drain!!!!
There is a minority of those saying that now we have an excellent Public Transportation system (not even the Arriva management are saying it) so I guess you must be living in a different dimension!!!
Peter Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 13:23
You remind me of the old lady who was watching a military parade and told her neighbour - "Oh, look, they're all out step except my son".
Of course, you are right and everybody else is wrong. Unlike you, the hundreds of persons who have complained in wrtiing, and the thousands who have done so verbally do not know what they are talking about. They are only imagining their new long walks to get to bus stops, their long waits, the frustration at being left behind because the buses passing by are full, etc., etc. Be real, if you can. If you are lucky enough not to have had any major problems with the new bus service (and I think you are not really telling the truth), before you start to generalise and come up with stupid statements such as "we Maltese cannot handle change", why don't you look at what is happening around you?
Elena Attard
Sep 12th 2011, 13:29
Lucky you. What I personally can't handle is having to wait for the damn bus 30-40mins every damn time.
Mr C Cassar
Sep 12th 2011, 13:44
Most haven't had any major issues with the new system apart from a few who post on here. They never wanted anything that would improve Malta by allowing new ideas to be implemented. These same people had protected jobs and a cushy life but now all of this has been exposed by the opening up of Malta to other much more competitive companies.
These same people never mention the disastrous public transport (bus) 'system' that the Maltese had to put up with for 50 years.
Malta is taking big steps to modernise not only it's infrastructure but also its soceity. There are those who hate this progress because they finally have to work for a living rather than sponge of the tax payer.
Marco Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 14:16
this contrasts a lot with the comments posted by others, my daily personal experience, and by the general feedback from users on board buses....
Want to join me for a daily delayed experience from Zurrieq to wherever my job of the day takes me?? Or wherever any of my colleagues depart from - say St Lucija??
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 14:46
Were you a woman, Mr Farrugia, I might have cheekily agreed :).
Back to the serious stuff. I travel to Sta. Lucija every Tuesday and Thursday. And have never found a problem aside from having to cross the main road. Hopefully with the new route no. 83, I will not need to cross the main road tomorrow.
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 14:55
Catania...nilaq? Jien kont qieghed nirrakkonta l-esperjenzi tieghi u m'ghajjart lil hadd giddieb. Pero ippermettili jekk nghajjar lilek pastaz ghax kieku kont qieghed tkellem lil jew 'l hadd iehor fit-triq ma titkellimx hekk. Kont tkompli d-diskussjoni b'mod ragonevoli. Ghall jista jkun, int wiehed mil-ex xuffiera tas-sistema l-antika?
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 14:59
Mr Camilleri,
We Maltese cannot handle change, least of all the change of a broken bus system made better. I have lived abroad for an x amount of time and I have travelled elsewhere across the continent, and everywhere I have been the bus system is similar. Yet it is accepted because it has been like that for decades in continental Europe. Us Maltese, instead of accepting the change and trying to get used to it just grumble grumble and grumble. I am not saying that everyone is wrong. I am just saying that everyone needs to get used to it.
Mark Seychell
Sep 12th 2011, 16:17
Hi Mr Gatt, I am a high ranking official working for a top secret government agency meant to make people think the world is a giant cookie which smells of flowers, so I receive a privileged treatment while I'm also twisting the truth for some hidden agenda :).
Seriously now, in order to answer your question. I am not getting from Point A to Point B at the appointed time in relative comfort and also with relative ease, something which I could not honestly say was happening with the old system. Obviously I seem to be in a minority. However, I do travel exceedingly often, and both in the Northern and Southern regions, not just within one region that coincidentally seems to be working correctly. Look at my original post: it is not without it's flaws. Which service is?
However I think the positives not only far outweigh the negatives.
Peter Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 19:35
Mr Seychell
You completely miss the point. We are not comparing our bus system with those abroad, but the present local system with the preceding one. In any case, do you seriously think that abroad, if someone replaces existing transport systems by something better in a few respects, but hopelessly worse in others, the commuting public would accept it without question rather than complain? I don't know where you have travelled, but it certainly looks as if the experience, whatever it may have been, hasn't taught you much.
The only aspects of what you call a "broken bus system" which have been made better are the condition of the buses themselves and of their drivers. Otherwise, in practically all other aspects, the exercise has been a disaster. But, of course, since you say your experience has been totally different from the majority of the commuting public, we should take the former as the general rule !! The latter must perforce bow to the wisdom of the Seychell oracle !!! And don't try to backtrack and say you didn't mean everyone else is wrong - that is exactly what you implied in your original masterpiece, and in your lame replies to those who took up the cudgels with you.
According to you, we Maltese, instead of accepting the change and trying to get used to it just grumble grumble and grumble. Of course, in other countries, nobody does !!!. So your conclusion is that when something is done wrongly and CAN BE REMEDIED with a little understanding, provided we try hard enough to convince those responsible of their mistakes, we should not do anything but simply get used to it.
May I suggest you adopt the same principle in your own home and, say, if you get a handyman who fixes a wall tap (or any other thingumajig) askew (i.e.at an angle), instead of vertically as it should be, to say nothing to him, but pay him, leave it as it is, and (to use your own words) simply get used to it. At least, that will only hurt your aesthetic sense - it won't make you walk long distances or spend hours waiting at bus stops rain or shine.
Why don't you call it a day, my friend?
James Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 20:41
@Mr Mark Seychell – My how lucky you are! So we do not know how to cope with change. When this change entails that you had a bus route and you do not have it anymore of course we cannot cope. When the change entails that one has to walk for over 15 to 20 minutes to get to a bus stop (I personally do not mind it but I am thinking of elderly people and mothers with babies) and then to have to wait for over 30 minutes (at times even an hour) to board a bus then yes one cannot cope with the change.
I live in the Fleur de Lys, B’Kara. During the old bus service days we had the 71 route which was very efficient with buses leaving the terminus every 15 minutes. Now this is one of the routes which has been disconitued. People in the area have now to walk up to Mriehel or to Valley Road to catch either a Rabat or Cirkewwa bus. Both these routes are heavily patronized. So by the time they get to our area they are full. My wife had an appointment last week at Zejtun at 10. So she was on the bus at 8:15. She managed to be in Valletta at 9:20. She waited over three quarters of an hour to board a bus. After waiting for such a long time without any success she had to forgo her visit to Zejtun and return back home. More of the same. I usually used to take my children to the beach two or three times a week. This summer we had to do without these outings because after trying for three times and not managing to board a bus to St Paul’s Bay for over an hour I decided to take my children back home each time.
So you see we have been relative prisoners in our own homes because of our lack of coping with this change. Had it been a change for the better we might have coped. However since the change was for the worse we couldn’t but moan, groan and unable to cope with it.
The buses are definitely better looking and more comfortable. The drivers are definitely better dressed and less rude. The rude, spitting, swearing cowboys (many of whom, I found to be contrary to how you described them although there were a number who fitted your description) in their rusty tins on wheels (a number of which were new as the new Arriva buses without the A/C) serviced us very well. New buses and well educated drivers do not make a service on their own. Punctuality, frequency, and routes do. Until we have these, I am sorry I will not be able to cope with the change.
Jairo Mifsud
Sep 12th 2011, 12:10
I Waited for 45 minutes for routes 33-34 to show up... supposingly
route 33 every 30 minutes
route 34 every 30 minutes
in 15 minute either one of these routes should have came by.....
STILL THE SAME RUBBISH
J Drury
Sep 12th 2011, 12:07
waited exactly 1 hour for bus 22 heading to Valletta this morning. Was on the stage at 08.20, bus came at 09.20, arrived at work at 09.45 (whereas i am supposed to start at 09.00).
Well done for the improved service Arriva - you are simply a Joke!!!!
Who will be / is responsible if someone god forbids get's fired for reporting to work late???
This is totally unacceptable!!
We demand an answer, i'm sure im not the only person asking this question!!
FRANS H SAID
Sep 12th 2011, 11:55
Unless they re-install ALL the old routes, people will not be satisfied. The Minister responsible should gulp his pride and admit that hios false theory was wrong. If he is too proud he should either resitgn or the PM should remove him.
We are not in a dictatorial regime and the people have the final say.
Dear Dr Gonzi, listen to the people.
Jerry Jones
Sep 12th 2011, 11:50
Kien ikun opportun li kieku l-Ministru Austin Gatt rega’ nieda permezz ta’ konferenza stampa t-tieni tentattiv tan-networking tar-rotot il-godda tal-Arriva. Kien ikun meqjus Ministru ‘tal-genn’ li kieku hareg imaqdar l-buzullotti tal-Ministeru tieghu u l-inkonvenjenti li ghaddejna minnhom mit-3 ta’ Lulju. Pero l-Ministru ghazel li jinheba. Ghandu ragun ddecieda li mhux se johrog ghall-elezzjoni generali li jmiss. Well done Minister best decision taken so far.
Mr Paul Caruana
Sep 12th 2011, 11:48
The next step, once full staff complement has been acheived, is to look in detail where, and at what times, delays are occuring compared to the published timetables, and where, and at what times, full up buses are leaving frustrated commuters stranded at bus stops, and react accordingly ( and rapidly!)
Rod Enderby
Sep 12th 2011, 11:44
Is Arriva now responsible for routes or is it still Transport Malta? it is no good blaming Arriva for route problems if they do not have the say.
If it is TM, I doubt they will ever get it right.
Mark Vella
Sep 12th 2011, 11:44
If busses are passing Full Up, it means that the service is being used. I think Arriva needs to have more busses deployed on frequently used routes, such as Bugibba ones.
I won't complain if a bus is 5 mins late, since during a route a bus cant come over quite some obtacles, like cars parked incorrectly, roads which are closed, etc. I'd complain in a no-show scenario, which doesn't seem the case.
Marco Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 14:11
doesn't seem the case????? Is this a joke or what??
Mr A Spiteri
Sep 12th 2011, 11:40
u r-risposta tal-ministru koncernat fuq dak il-fjask?!?!
il-maltin dejjem igergru!!
J. Debono
Sep 12th 2011, 13:41
Ghandu ragun il-Ministru.
Il-Maltin dejjem igergru.
Meta l-Inglizi kienu stazzjonati Malta - kien laqqmuna - Maltese gemgem.
Din hija bidla - allura ovvjament il-Maltin ha jgergru, ghax ahna poplu li neqirdu.
Li servizz beda hazin hafna, kien punt li l-Maltin kellhom skuza valida li qed igergru.
Imma issa ejja nkunu sincieri, is-servizz qieghed immur ghall-ahjar (ghadu mhux perfett imma!!), ir-rotot huma aktar varji, hemm aktar rotot cirkulari u diretti (qabel ma kienx hemm), u hemm 4 rotot mill-airport (qabel ma kienux jezistu).
Ir-rotot ta bil-lejl huma ahjar, karozzi tal-linja jdahhnu spiccaw. Drivers bil-qmis miftuha, jpejpu, jidghu, u jitkellmu fuq il-mobile, waqt li jsuqu naqqsu b'mod konsiderevoli.
Is-servizz huwa ahjar milli kellna, u vantagg iehor hu li f'xahrejn ga amendaw xi rotot (fejn bis-sistema l-antika f'50 sena ma irrangaw xejn).
Nkunu posittivi ghal darba, jew ha nibqghu dejjem l-istess!!
James Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 19:50
@J Debono. Mhux qieghed tkun ezatt fl-analizi tieghek.
1.Is-servizz tal-Arriva tjieb ghax f'xahrejn ga gie emendat. - Gie emendat ghax xi rotot gew eliminati u wara tgergir tan-nies irrejalizzaw li dawn ir-rotot kellu jergghu jiddahhlu.
2. Is-sistema l-antika f'50 sena ma rrangaw xejn - Le? Mela ha naraw servizz bejn ir-Rabat u Ta' Sliema u Bugibba. Servizz bejn ta' Sliema u Bugibba. Servizz bejn l-Armier u Bugibba. Servizz bejn Ghajn Tuffieha u Bugibba. Servizzi ohra introdotti meta kien ikun bzonn - bhal per ezempju servizz dirett mill-belt ghal meta jkun hemm it-Trade Fair. Servizz introdott dawn l-ahhar snin ghal Mater Dei, waqt li s-servizz ghal St Luke baqa'. Hemm aktar rotot li gew introdotti pero mhux se noqghod insemmihom kollha. Trakkijiet sekond godda gew introdotti dawn l-ahhar sentejn.
3. Servizz huwa ahjar milli kellna. Ma nahsibx. Meta hawn irhula li kellhom rotta u din gie eliminata, in-nies gew aghar milli kienu (ez. B'Kara Fleur-de-Lys). Meta ghandek anqas trakkijiet biex tahdem it-trakkijiet se jkollhom jghabbu aktar nies u b'hekk se jkunu full up aktar malajr bil-kosegwenza li nies fuq il-bus stops se jkollhom joqoghdu jistennew ghal aktar hin. Minhabba din ir-raguni wkoll it-trips huma anqas frekwenti bil-konsegwenza li l-karozzi se jdumu aktar ma jghaddu.
Qed inkun sincier meta nghid li s-servizz ghad fadallu biex jigi tajjeb bhal dak li kellna qabel. Biex inkun sincier, it-trakkijiet huma aktrar komdi u x-xufiera s'issa huma aktar edukati. Pero' jien irrid nasal fejn ikolli nasal fil-hin. Dan s'issa bil-kumdita' kollha li joffru t-trakkijiet il-godda ghadu ma sehhx
Peter Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 20:12
Sur Debono
Sejjer nirrispondik bil-Malti, ghax forsi bl-Ingliz (u mid-dehra f'hafna affarijiet ohra) ma tifhimx.
"Il Maltin dejjem igergru" - Tippretendi li meta jkollhhom ragun, ma jifthux halqhom, gbin?
"L-Inglizi laqqmuna Maltese gemgem" - bhallikieku l-Inglizi ma jgergrux !!!
"Qabel ma kienx hemm rotot cirkulari u diretti, u qabel ma kienux jezistu rotot mill-ajruport" Rotot cirkulari ma kienx hemm, imma diretti kellna, hija - qabel ma nehhew hafna minnhom, u amalgamaw ohrajn biex jimlew il-buses. U veru ta l-ajruport - kien hemm rotta wahda biss. Issa sahansitra ghandna anke wahda mill-ajruport ghall-Isptar - biex jekk taghmillek id -deni t-titjira, issib wens mediku minnufih.
Hadd ma cahad li certi aspetti marru ghall-ahjar. Li qed ingergru huwa fuq il-hazin, biex forsi xi hadd jirrangah.
U skuzi, tigix tghid li s-servizz huwa ahjar milli kellna, ghax fejn jidhlu rotot imnehhijja, giri ma Malta bla sens, u dewmien, morna hafna ghall-aghar. Veru li f'xahrejn, amendaw xi rotot biex ghat-taparsi jsodduna, izda fejn konna bqajna. U fejn qed tghix, habib, fil-qamar ? Biex tigi tghid li bis-sistema l-antika f'50 sena ma irrangaw xejn. Insejt kemm irrangaw u kabbru rotot fl-ahhar snin? Il-garr kien fuq il-vetturi ux-xufiera, mhux fuq ir-rotot. U issa hassru (biex ma nuzax kelm'ohra) kollox.
Allura naraw il-pozitiv biss, skond int, u-l-hazin ma nitkellua fuqu xejn, u nibqu mwahhlin bih!!! J'alla nibqghu dejjem l-istess, habib, u nikkritikaw il-hazin biex forsi xi anglu jismaghna w jirrangah.
Carlos Espinal
Sep 12th 2011, 11:37
Any opinions on how the infamous Maltese traffic and gridlocks may be hampering the performance of the buses?
If I see three buses from the same route one after the other, the only explanation for me here is traffic jams...
Michael Lloyd
Sep 12th 2011, 12:31
The infamous Maltese traffic and gridlocks must surely have affected the old yellow buses too, though, Mr Espinal, yet people are saying that the service was better back then. I am talking about the routes and the frequencies, not the various allegations about some of the drivers and some of the buses. Arriva cannot blame their failures on traffic and gridlock, when traffic and gridlock were still there in the old days. The truth is that the routes invented by the silly consultants do not meet the needs of the Maltese population. The consultants apparently were unable to tell the difference between the London underground railway system (with trains every few minutes and stations underground, where it is not hot, cold, wet or dry) and the Maltese road system which is congested and overcrowded and where there is a bus every hour or so now, and you have to wait in the hot sun, the wind, the rain, etc. Pity the Maltese government ever employed these incompetents to destroy a system that worked.
Anthony Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 11:35
What Arriva does not seem to realise is that it doesn't have enough buses and drivers to provide a service as scheduled.
It needs double the number of buses as some are in for repairs or in need of servicing.
It or TM is combining route like Cirkewwa to Valletta via Fleur-de-Lys when the previous bus left every 15 minutes from B'Kara terminus and picked up all the people from the route to Valletta. The bus offered is every hour and by the time it reaches Fleur-de-Lys and Hamrun and will be full.
TM and Arriva do not undersatand that the previous routes are needed. We cannot have an interchange system with bus frequencies of an hour!!!
Ms Anna Caruana
Sep 12th 2011, 13:48
I totally agree with you Anthony. There is no comparing the new X6 with the old 71. You cannot count on it...first of all it's difficult to calculate what time it will actually show up at Fleur de Lys since it leaves from Cirkewwa (meaning that you'll have to be on the bus stop super early to make sure you don't miss it) and secondly there is no guarantee that it won't be already full up by the time it gets to Fleur de Lys.
Basically if you're from Fleur de Lys your options are to:
1) Wait indefinitely at a bus stop on Fleur de Lys Rd for the Cirkewwa Bus - x6 -and hope it's not full up with Gozitans by the time it arrives
or
2) walk the 10-15minute walk from Fleur de Lys Rd to the bus stop at the Mriehel acquaduct (opposite Fino) or to the bus stop near the St Joseph Petrol Station and get one of the buses coming from Rabat - 51,52,53. (Not very convenient and practical if it's raining and you have to go to work in heels and a suit though).
or
3) Get the bus that passes through Fleur de Lys Rd - the 125 - which does not take you to Valletta. You have to stop at Hamrun (Mile End) and then wait at the Mile End bus stop for the Rabat Bus that takes you to Valletta.
I certainly miss the old 71 bus! :-(
Anthony Pace
Sep 12th 2011, 15:31
Ms Caruana, if you change buses twice on an errand to Valletta from the Fleur-de-Lys area you increase the number of buses used by 50% since you use 4 buses.
That gives statisticians false figures to work on and for Arriva to say that it's volume of traffic has increased by 20%.
In actual fact it has decreased as more people are opting to use their cars. Public tranport has gone back by a hundred years to its infancy when villages were connected to Valletta by one bus every hour and in some villages none in the afternoon.
I remember that when I was a child and there was no Air Malta and we used to holiday in Xlendi there was a bus every hour(four in total) in the morning and then three in the evening. None in the afternoon. We are back to those times if it were not for our cars.
Mr Malcolm Mifsud
Sep 12th 2011, 11:34
I use route 91, the bus that leaves Marsascala to Valletta. I board from Fgura. To arrive in Valletta I sometimes have to either walk four stages up or take a bus in the opposite direction, stop on Zabbar stages and hope that buses coming from Marsascala are not full up. So far Arriva has not regained my confidence.
Mr Paul Mallia
Sep 12th 2011, 11:33
X'servizz servizz!!!!
Dalghodu mort fuq l-istejg ta' Hal-Qormi hdejn il-Policlinic u dan kien fis-6.10. ma' nafx x'gara ghax sas-6.45 kienet ghadha ma' ghaddietx karozza. Billi noqghod ferm vicin irragunajt li ahjar naqbad nuza l-karozza tieghi ghax sakemm ninzel il-Marsa ghandi ftit minuti mhux hazin (tikkunsidra l-hin li jakkumula hafna karozzi hdejn ir-roundabout tal-Lovenbrau), u wara nispicca nitlef il-X-buses kollha li jkunu tielghin l-ajruport dak il-hin. Sal-gimgha l-ohra dan il-kaz ma' kienx jezisti ghax il-karozza tal-linja kienet tasal fuq l-istejg comb fis-6.35 ta' filghodu u allura no problem, imma minn din il-gimgha inholqot problema gdida. X'gara? ma' nafx ghax anqas nista nirrikorri ghall-websajt tal-Arriva halli nara l-hinijiet jekk inbidlux. Insomma herba ghamlu aktar milli qatt kien jezisti. PROSIT - Erghajtu ghaxxaqtuha. Tinsiex li Hal-Qormi m'hemmx aktar karozzi hlief is-61 ghax dik ta' Hal Qormi (San Gorg jigifieri is-63), suppost titlaq kull siegha, u biex nirkibha tigini aghar. Nispera li jirrangaw ghax kont drajt nitla bl-Arriva!!!!!
Chris Tanti
Sep 12th 2011, 11:29
In Dingli today Route 52 departing at 6.20 (which used to be punctual last week), today arrived 15 minutes late at 6.40. At that time there is no traffic! I bought a one-week ticket and whilst last week I was given a sort of container-card for this week ticket, this time I was just given a ticket. There is no consistency whatsoever!
Chris Attard
Sep 12th 2011, 11:27
As for Routes 81 and 82 what about shortening the routes so that it will go directly to Valletta instead of wasting time passing to Marsa Park-and-Ride? I knew of a lot of people who complained with arriva customer care about this...but seems like they were all ignored!
Stefan Fenech
Sep 12th 2011, 11:27
I wonder how Arriva can regain the confidence of the Lija residents. ROUTE 43 was supposed to be extended so it would cater for Naxxar Higher students. Therefore the original route was supposed to remain unchanged. Now, not only that the route has changed but the ROUTE 43 is no longer entering near the Torri Belvedere of Lija. To catch the Route 43, Lija residents have to walk to the bus stop next to Bathroom Design, which in Winter due to heavy rainwater, one would probably need a gondola to cross to the other side. The most ridiculous thing is that even Arriva's help desk and customer care didn't know about this changes because in the own words "It is only an extension and the original wasn't meant to be changed".
SILVANA AGIUS
Sep 12th 2011, 13:51
I AGREE HUNDRED PER CENT WITH YOU!
LIJA RESIDENCE
S.AGIUS.
K. Vella
Sep 12th 2011, 11:27
Way back in July, we were promised that ROUTE 81 will be revised, to-date we did not receive any news.
I hope that this 1 hour long journey will be included as part of these changes.
J. Falzon
Sep 12th 2011, 11:24
this morning 51 and 52 buses were full up and not punctual I hope that arriva will take note of this !!!
Anthony Borg
Sep 12th 2011, 13:51
This morning we waited for a 51,52 or 53 bus to Rabat at Carmel Bus Stop, H’Attard from 10:40 to 11.20.
As I was beginning to walk back home, a Route 109 bus appeared and gave us a lift to Rabat interchange.
No sorry, our confidence is completely shattered now.
Who can afford to waste so much time at Arriva Bus Stops!
Mr Charles Falzon
Sep 12th 2011, 11:23
Bqajna xorta!!!!!
Marty Matthews
Sep 12th 2011, 11:13
So far their new improved 100 % service has not worked out.....I missed a bus at 9.00am this morning going from Qawra to St Juliens....according to their timetable a No 11 bus is there every 30 mins and a number 12 every 15 mins (4 per hour) so how come no buses turned up until 9.40am ???? a wait of 40 mins, by my calculations we should have had at least 2 No 12 buses and 1 No 11 !!!!!!!
Nicholas Cassar
Sep 12th 2011, 11:11
sorry ta imma l-ahhar kumment kien ta wihed ragel u qal li rah impruvja hafna iservizz pero qal ukoll li l-ewwel darba li uza is-servizzi ta l- Arriva. Tikontradixxi wahda ma lohra din il bicca. Il-problema hija wahda li qabel kelna karozzi tal-linja b'numru imdaqqas u issa bdawn il- karozzi il godda mandnix karozzi bizejjed li jaghmlu rottot addatati bhal qabel. Manafx ghaliex dan il pajjiz ma jarax fejn hu hazin u isewwih u it-tajjeb ihallih tajjeb ghax dak hu garantit li hu tajjeb ax tkun pruvajtu mhux it- tajjeb tibdlu ukoll u terga tihu riskju biex tara tahdimx sistema gdida.
Marco Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 11:03
Delays in Zurrieq today as well... Waited for 35minutes...
JOSEPHINE BORG
Sep 12th 2011, 10:58
We Fgura commuters have been posting comments from day one.....,.however it seems to fall on VERY DEAF EARS!!!!!!!!!!!! How long are we going to get more frequent trips so that we won't have to wait for more than 45mins to board a bus to valletta. Before the ARRIVA era, we had the luxury of having 6 buses operating our route..............now we are served with only one!!!!! We are all frustrated and ANGRY - but what else can we do when everybody is ignoring us.
J lanzon
Sep 12th 2011, 11:20
I agree with you, I have emailed them about Fgura bus stops but all they do is not pay attention. However I'd still choose Arriva over the old system. The other system was absurd. Sometimes they used to come early, sometimes late, and that was never beneficial. So for those complaining and wanting the old service back, you think you had it better, but in fact it's better now. Even without some certain routes and with delays.
A Caruana
Sep 12th 2011, 12:00
Even at Marsascala nothing has changed, they promised that route no 91 would go from the siberia area, but they have not done it, yet they prefer to have 4 buses no 91 waiting at the Terminus with the airconditioner running and wasting petrol when in that time the bus could have picked up residents from the Triq il Qaliet and triq il Gardiel areas, Its a big disgrace that they keep on ignoring people who are suffering hardship. Resign Mr Austin Gatt and if our PM had balls he would fire him, or is our PM too scared too take any action? Consdering the fact that he too is a resident of our locality but the big difference is that he has a car and driver at his disposal and his children are now grown up and do not use the buses, maybe it he had kids who still need to use public buses he would take action, as it is he is showing that he is toothless and spineless and is being held to ransom by his own Ministers who are allowed to do what they want.
Ms Francesca Abela
Sep 12th 2011, 17:09
A. Caruan and Josephine Borg -- if our PM had any guts he would have fired Austin gATT AND aRRIVA AND INSISTED THAT tHE PEOPLE GOT THE ROUTES AND SERVICE THEY WANTED, AFTER ALL IT IS TAXPAYERS MONEY THAT IS SUBSIDIZING aRRIVA TO THE TUNE OF 6 MILLION A YEAR!! But they only care about themselves, l-aqwa li huma hadu 500 Euro fil Gimgha u ahna hadna it terturi u iz ziediet fil Petrol, Dawl u il Gas!!!
Mr Tony Camilleri
Sep 12th 2011, 10:49
Tardiva, the joke of the century.
Mr j mifsud
Sep 12th 2011, 11:53
it aint that funny......
Mr Victor Calleja
Sep 12th 2011, 10:46
Yes I was one of the unfortunate commuters at a Fgura bus stop. After an hour waiting I decided to use my own car. For us in Fgura the service is still mediocre.
Alistair Farrugia
Sep 12th 2011, 12:01
The only viable solution for Fgura residents is to have a service that STARTS from Fgura and does NOT use Zabbar Road. Zabbar Road should only be used by the existing M'Scala to Valletta route, and a separate route should exist that travels from Fgura, towards Tarxien and then towards Valletta. The population of Fgura and Zabbar together is close to 30,000. If Arriva seriously want to boost their sales and give us a better service, they should take note of these figures and put them in perspective.
cettina portelli
Sep 12th 2011, 19:24
i dont agree...the BEST solution is that the no.3 xghajra bus passes through zabbar and fgura LIKE IT USED TO DO when it was bus no.21 and the people of bormla, birgu and kalkara are given back their own bus which leaves from the bormla terminus LIKE IT USED TO DO with a bus leaving from kalkara every 30minutes....LIKE IT USED TO DO.... this is the only way to solve the problem of fgura residents and the people of the 3cities and kalkara. here in upper bormla, its a nightmare in the early mornings trying to get to work by 7.00am!
Mr d. attard
Sep 12th 2011, 10:45
the new Ċirkewwa bus ...service was welcomed and well patronised. It was especially welcomed by commuters in Fleur-de-Lys,
Can someone explain why the excellent route that stops at Mellieha, Burmarrad, San Pawl Tat-Targa Mosta and B'Kara does not stop at Xemxija? This two minute issue would convert the nightmarish experience of Xemxija residents heading towards the Hamrun into an excellent service. Why?
A Cordina
Sep 12th 2011, 11:09
Dont worry...if it happens to be a Maltese driving the bus will stop everywhere; 'express' or not!