Language schools call for safer Paceville
Language schools have joined in the chorus calling for a safer Paceville. Photo: Chris Sant Fournier
English language schools are calling for a “zero tolerance policy” to be adopted against any form of violence in Paceville that is gaining a bad reputation abroad for being a “lawless mecca”.
“If the deteriorating situation is not arrested, it will spiral further out of control becoming a haven of vice and violence,” the Federation of English Language Teaching Organisations Malta, Feltom, said.
The federation joined a chorus of calls for a safer Paceville that were sparked by a series of violent events in the entertainment hub. One such event spurred lawyer Anthony Farrugia to set up the Group Acting For A Safe Paceville, GASP.
Dr Farrugia set up the pressure group to confront the “lawlessness in Paceville” after his son was attacked by six thugs on June 20. GASP’s mission statement calls for more police presence in the area and better training for police.
Feltom said Malta’s reputation as a safe family destination was a key selling point for tourism and for the English language sector. “Yet, the number of violent incidents in and around Paceville are hitting the headlines with greater frequency... We fully agree that this situation cannot continue unabated and welcome the setting up of GASP and its efforts to draw attention to the problem,” Feltom said.
Earlier this week, the police said the presence of officers in the streets of Paceville “has always been effective, both in preventive measures implemented and action taken when the police intervention was called for”.
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Gianluca Sciberras
Aug 14th 2011, 15:17
the majority of fights in summer are caused by your students ... you better give these students a good lesson and how they should react .. :) we are in our country they are foreigners therefore they have to obey our law ..
Adrian Refalo
Aug 12th 2011, 19:09
Maybe the english language schools are afraid that they would make less money as fewer students will come to malta to ''study'' english??
it is better that you control your students especially during the nights!!!!
Mr Jimmy Magro
Aug 11th 2011, 23:28
Soon you will have police patrol with their fancy new segways.
John Micallef
Aug 11th 2011, 20:33
I dont agree that everyone blames these students. Just some info - not all 18 - 30 yr olds are english language students ! 95 percent of the italians in pv are here for a holiday so what all you are moaning about is tourists in general ! Next - every nationality has its problem people ! I remember vividly a group of Maltese Tourists in Citta Del Mare burning a hut to the ground (for who doesnt know all bedrooms are huts) ! So any place in the world that attracts tourists will always have its fair share of problems ....but wait a minute was it the news I saw two days ago with the government saying there were record arrivals in June.......just for your information the people you are moaning about are the same people that the government shouts so loud how good the MTA is !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ms P.M Graham
Aug 11th 2011, 20:15
It's actually quite easy to deal with the under 18's Language school students because if they miss a curfew as stated in the Language School handbook they are reported. Now what happens with that report is up to each individual school.
Personally I would give them one late. Two lates and your flight home is booked the next morning. In fact I would go as far as promoting an early return flight deposit from parents booking their children on these courses, returnable if their child behaves.
(That however doesn't solve the problem of the Maltese resident teenagers, who cause just as much trouble).
The over 18's should be advised if they cause trouble they also will be sent home the following morning no questions asked but we need the language schools on board and NOT to be organizing events that finish at 1am for the under 18's
charles tabone
Aug 11th 2011, 19:12
It seems foreign students have become the lawless breed. Yes, this is a question of installing a "zero tolerance policy". But the onus should not be borne by the police, though more surveillance is necessary round the clock. I assume that hosting families in the Swieqi area have to make it a point to the students under their care, especially those under 18, that house rules are to be observed and the neighbours and the citizenry should be respected. On the other hand students coming in groups under the guidance of escorts need to be made aware of police action in case of criminal offences. About 8 or 9 years ago, while attending a language workshop at the European Centre for Modern Languages in Graz, the subject of laissez faire that was leading to every form of abuse by language students in Malta, was brought to my attention by a high ranking school administrator from Vienna. This, I can recall, was passed on to my then superiors at Education Division. So, I can claim, the deterioration of foreign students' behaviour has been coming in for quite a long time.
Mr Alexander Pace Gouder.
Aug 11th 2011, 17:36
Paceville, Pembroke,Swieqi, St.Andrews, The whole of St.Julians,San Gwann and partsof Sliema are in Hell. What a mess - It seems the situation is out of control. If these students are in Malta to learn English can someone from these English Language Schools explain how these students attend for lessons when they are still walking back home on the promanade at 6am after a whole night out and this on all week days? Do students miss quite a number of Lessons? Are they alert during the lesson or maybe Half Asleep? Also what type of certificate are these students being given at the end of the Course. Are they given all the same a pass or that they attended an English Course in Malta? Which course the Night ActivityCourse!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE. Also it seems that many of the Students are being accomodated in Hotels and Self Catered Flats . Are they Being Supervised? - The Original idea about these English Language Schools was to accomodate Students with Maltese Families. (This is still effected but it seems to be on the decline.) Is there a reason?In this way they could mix with the Family members, (Speak in English, get help in their exercises and practice their spoken English with the family members) get to know family members,join during Dinner etc., get to know about our traditions and are mostly well supervised. In Hotels and Self Catered Flats they seem to be only together as Groups of Students and speake only their language.
Saviour Sam Agius
Aug 11th 2011, 17:10
Before it was Marsascala, now it's Paceville. Some parts of the society are sick. Their idea of having fun is to beat someone up. Some teenagers go out with that purpose in mind and then brag about it the whole week.
Wesley Dee
Aug 11th 2011, 16:43
I've lived here for five years or so and when I lived closer used to go through PV in the evenings on my way elsewhere (I'd not normally spend time in the clubs and bars being so much older than the regular crowd).
I've seen about six or eight pretty nasty violent episodes in that time, all of them involving Paceville bouncers beating the pulp out of intoxicated children.
Regulating, licensing and training the Neanderthals whose job satisfaction comes from committing GBH on teenagers might be a good start.
Douglas Bagnall
Aug 11th 2011, 15:44
If the so called students are genuinely visiting Malta to learn English then set up the schools away from the tourist areas and let them get on with it. I guarantee that within twelve months Paceville won`t have a spare genuine tourist vacancy, all us spending much more on local produce etc., The local populace will get some peace and people like us will be happy to return to this once lovely area of yours.
Mr & Mrs Bagnall
England
Mr Joseph Calleja
Aug 11th 2011, 15:42
Paceville (or PV as some prefer to call it) is Paceville, no more, no less. It is a big moneymaker for the club owners and some other businesses. Paceville is not going to go away and believe me it is not only the rowdy foreign students that frequent Paceville, a lot of these teens and even adults are local Maltese.They are just as rowdy as the foreign students. Some go to PV to enjoy themselves and some go looking for trouble. On the other hand these foreign students have no job and they probably don't have any classes till late and only for a couple of hours. So what would a teen do with the rest of the spare time? You guessed it, they go to Paceville till the odd hours of the morning and they couldn't care less about making noise or getting into trouble. Paceville is like a runaway bus and out of control. The government does not seem to want to interfere because that is where the money is and that means a lot of taxes, besides as I said many times before, money talks and bullsh.t walks. I do feel sorry for the residents that live around that area but there isn't much they can do, or is there? Maybe it is time for a Town Meeting with the Local City Council, the local residents, the police and maybe a government representative is not a bad idea? Remember an election is on the horizon and a vote can tell a thousand words.
Mr J Galea
Aug 11th 2011, 15:00
Some language schools think nothing of putting 80-100 students on board a noisy yacht in the grand harbour belching out 150 decibels till after midnight and disturbing residents' sleep. Alcohol consumption in these situations may put students at risk. Charity begins at home. So does health and safety! Business should look after their own interests - it is bad if a student comes to harm of course. Stop clamouring for a nanny state beyond the services already provided.
Anthony Gatt
Aug 11th 2011, 14:34
Discipline has to come from the schools themselves. If they cannot control there students, then there the licence, should not be renewed.
I live in Lourdes Lane. near Bay Street. Last night between 2.00am to 6.00am, it was a nighymare, Due to the rowdiness and drunkeness of these so-called students. First the Germans, than the Italians and lastly the Spanish. How could they learn English acouple of hours is beyond my belief. Do the teachers make a roll call? When I asked the students to ' shut up' , all I got was insults.
The majority of these students, I believe, are staying at a school in St. Andrews. If the authorities of this paticular cannot control them, or at least introduce a curfew, then there licence should be revoked.
Also, it is not always the students creating a nuisance. There are certain groups of locals, who have no respect for the residents, especially during weekends and festas.
No excuses from the police. I do not see police-patrol or wardens at night, any more..
The local councils of both Swieqii and St. Julians have to blame for the dirtiness of our streets, closeby to Paceville. I see regular street-cleaners in Forest Street and The Gardens, but only occasionally in Lourdes Lane and near-by streets.
r bonello
Aug 11th 2011, 14:18
hafna mill-glied li nara pv, ikunu jew studenti, jew inkella maltin kontra studenti "bzieq"....hafna pulizija ma taghmilx gid, anke mill-att tat-turisti, ghax nghid ghalija biex insiefer go post, u kull fej inhares nara pulizija ( ma nsemmux ic-cids ukoll ), naqbad u ma nmur xej, ghax il-haga tigi awtomatika li dak il post m huwiex safe....il bierah l uniku glieda li rajt, wara nofs minuta gie pulizija, qabad lil dawk it-tnejn li kienu se jiggieldu ma STUDENT, min ghonqom, u sabbathom ma sigra...u in nies migbura kollha tawh il proset....jekk mhux se taghti ezempju, il glied se jibqa jsehh
j dough
Aug 11th 2011, 13:49
I am very much in favour of more police and security in the streets - but not only in paceville! These thugs will move out of Paceville and just continue their bullying and criminal behaviour elsewhere.
Ray Abela
Aug 11th 2011, 11:57
I believe that every Tom, Dick and Harry knows where the problem lies! If the relevant authorities woke up and upheld the law, we would not be facing this serious problem. By all means the presence of the boys in blue would help but what PV needs is undercover police officers operating in the numerous bars and clubs to arrest the abuse of under age drinking and apprehend the bar/club owners who are breaking the law blatantly and openly. And perhaps more importantly that the courts adopt a zero tolerance policy with the accused and revoke their licences.
As for Feltom and it's members and indeed all Language Schools, I believe that rather than pointing fingers towards any law enforcing agencies, they should first carry out an in house exercise to evaluate the reasons behind the present status quo. It seems that years of experience in hosting foreign students have not taught us anything. Each and every year we hear the same complaints.The schools need to employ mature individuals to supervise the students during their free time. It's pointless sending a 17 or 18 year old leader to PV. But perhaps more importantly the schools SHOULD AND MUST insist with their clients that the tour leaders accompanying these groups are experienced in handling students and be of a mature nature (especially age wise) capable to understand that they are not in Malta on holiday and that their job is not the 9-5 type! I have personally seen tour leaders in a worse physical state than the actual students!
Finally, I urge those of you who commented on the poor spending power of these students to think again. have seen students arrive in Malta with 900 Euros spending money for a 3 week stay. Please bear in mind that most students are booked on FB, ie. breakfast, lunch and dinner included throughout their stay. Come the third week some not all, would be asking if it were possible to have the deposit back earlier as they were broke! Most hotels retain a deposit at check-in in case of any damages caused during their stay. Where do you think that money is spent? Souvenir shops? I think not!
Stephen Koludrovic
Aug 11th 2011, 11:51
Ah yes. It is all the fault of these silly students that PV is such a mess.
Come October, PV will at last be peaceful again. No drug pushing, no noise, no horn blaring, no loud rap music coming out of cruising cars, no jay running jogger run over by some late night reveller,no fights ,no robberies, the streets so clean one could even eat from the floor.
It will be so peaceful and serene,all the bouncers will hibernate.
We could even invite a string quartet, to play us some Mozart recitals for the older generation of tourists, that will flock to the place.
Mr Charles Caruana Carabez
Aug 11th 2011, 11:43
Some 4 years ago, I ended up pushing my son in a wheelchair at St Luke's at 2 o'clock in the morning for an emergency brainscan, after he was head-butted and kicked by a mindless villian. It was a blood-letting I shall never forget. I am not the only one. That place is a national shame: all sorts of weapons have been used there, including sub-machineguns. Whole generations have been corrupted, and I mean seriously corrupted, there, producing incalculable misery to numberless families, and creating a new, heartless and bloody-minded Malta. I do not blame shop and club owners alone. The whole thing was allowed to grow into a cancer, through the complacency of parents, authorities and avid merchants and common peddlers. Now it is too late. No law can operate there, because it is lawless, and resists any form of organisation or orderly behaviour. It is a place for hedonism, and hedonism does not accept rules. As for Feltom, well, with the critical age-groups they deal in, I hope they don't expect that the contemporary Strait Street becomes a Disneyland. It's just too late. We all failed.
Franco Farrugia
Aug 11th 2011, 11:43
People commenting below give one the impression that Paceville is only problematic during the summer months when FELTOM students are here. Ehem... have you been in Malta during the winter-months to read the newspapers about what goes on in Paceville thanks to 'OUR' young upstarts?
Ms Tanya Briffa
Aug 11th 2011, 11:41
The students are normal young teenagers and can't help acting out when on holiday with peers and away from parents. Feltom should take some responsibility - why take them to pv in the first place, especially if under drinking age? Some schools are actually situated right in the thick of it, what do you expect?
I also agree that if Feltom need more safey in PV in order to continue making their buck they should be ready to contribute. As should PV businesses - it would surely make for better business if PV becomes renowned for safety.
Closing Paceville is not the answer - youngsters do need somewhere to congregate and another PV would just spring up somewhere else.
vincent a galea
Aug 11th 2011, 11:26
I feel that the Federation should first look into its own conscience !!
They are supposed to be an EDUCATION UNIT!! Are they educating their own students to behave, dress, in a way to enhance respect... Are they being thought NOT TO JAY WALK in front of cars in the middle of the road ??? Are they being advised that we do not like being shown the middle finger when we show that they are misbehaving.....
etc etc etc......
Mr John J Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 11:25
why not create and alternative for all youths in another place , exlusive to 15 to 25 years, open at decent hours 5pm to midnight,where all abuse can be more easily controlled. just name the place....and the establishments will sure come.
paceville is now synonymous with transgression.....trying to control it ....will not help...............................
K. Vella
Aug 11th 2011, 11:21
First of all . . . what on earth are these 13-14 year old students all doing in paceville anyway? There are so many options and beautiful sites to visit in Malta do these schools possibly need to let them loose in pv every single night? Not to say there's anything horribly wrong with pv, but obviously older people drink there so it can get a bit rowdy at times but if these students can't handle it just avoid the area or create a curfew. NATURALLY though this might not go down so well with most of the students *cough* allofthem *cough* that just come here to party so the schools might lose money.
joe attard
Aug 11th 2011, 11:17
Paceville should be properly policed and returned to lawfulness not for the sake of the few unscrupulous businessmen and not only to make it safer for the so called students but also for the hundreds of honest people who work there. At this rate one day Paceville will have to be closed down as what happens there is unacceptable if unpoliced , all it will take is one politician that puts the cleaning of Paceville on his/her manifesto.
Mr Daniel Soler
Aug 11th 2011, 11:10
I think some people here don't see the actual problem of students in Malta.
Simple solution. Increase the security and introduce a law that anybody under the age of 18 found in the paceville area will be fined. Malta has created an area that thankfully its all concentrated and not scattered all over the island. Enforcing and making sure everything goes well is the police job and if they are not managing they should think about of doing something to arrange it.
We have to stop pointing our fingers to Students and give them all the blame. Think about it, Everybody when they where young if your parents said nothing and let you do what ever you wanted then you would not have thought twice . same with these students. Increase police and things will get better. MUCH better.
Steve Zammit
Aug 11th 2011, 11:09
Language Schools call for safer Paceville
Do these ''schools'' know that half the problems in Paceville are caused by their own ''students'' that are suppose to be here to ''learn'' english???
Stop trying to fool us...these ''students'' come here for everything but to learn english. Its just an excuse for a cheap holiday
Mr Paul Abela
Aug 11th 2011, 10:59
Federation of English Language Teaching Organisations should first teach there foreign students to behave before blaming the Police Force.On the other hand haven't any police officer noticed the foreign students on the beach drinking alcohol from supposed water bottles!
Mr Criss Camilleri
Aug 11th 2011, 11:45
Exactly Mr. P. Abela ! It is easy to ask for zero tolerance policy, for others, but first one is make sure that his 'house' [ Students] is well kept.
Clayton Zahra
Aug 11th 2011, 10:49
pv lawlessness??? pv qisu habs sar fejn li kien 10 snien ilu. kullimkien cameras, ligijiet jghoddu ghall pv biss. tipparkja karozza fuq xoghol jibghatulek ritratt helu d dar! pv kien bla ligi 10 snien ilu mela llum! U dawn ahjar jaraw l istudenti taghhom x jigu jghamlu malta! ghax nahseb jigu ghall kollox barra biex jitghallmu l ingliez u jonfqu lira!
Bernice Farrugia
Aug 11th 2011, 12:22
La PV sar mimli bit-tfal (u l maggoranza tat tfal huma Maltin...no matter what anyone says!!) - ek ikollu jigri. Tifel jew tifla ta 15 u 16-il sena m ghandux jithalla jiggerra Paceville (u mkien iktar) sat 3 u l 4 ta filghodu. 10 snin ilu ma kontx tarahom dawn l affarijiet u ghalekk kien em iktar liberta!
Clayton Zahra
Aug 11th 2011, 12:50
tfal ta 15-16 anqas biss suppost jitilaw pv. haga ohra dwar pv li certu ligijiet japplikaw ghall pv biss qisu f malta. ibda minn tat tipjip, pv biss tara l puluzija jduru fil barijiet habba s sigaretti(minflokk jiehdu hsieb affarijiet ohra iktar serji bhat tfal jigru pv taht it 18 il sena)
Mr Carmel Garcia
Aug 11th 2011, 10:47
Jekk hemm bzonn stazzjonaw anke is-suldati tal-FAM biex ikun hemm aktar sigurta bhal ma kien fi zmien mhux wisq il-boghod anke dwar road blocks.
monique Bugeja
Aug 11th 2011, 10:42
Mela fis-sajf jigu lis-studenti malta u iqazzu kull mhemm u ahna iz-zaghzagh maltin habba fihom ma nistghux nihdu siegha pjacir fil weekend wara gimgha xol u stresss u skola. u intom qedghin tghidu biex nghalqu pv ukoll. Xjibqalna ahna? fil-hdax ha jibda jitbaxxa is sound!! Jien u hafna ohrajn fil hdax inkunu ghadna qedghin inlestu biex nitilu paceville! Minjaf kem ha imorru lura clubs. U aw ajdut ukoll li from next year ha jibdew jaghlqu il clubs at 1am!!!!!!! dan kollu habba tort ta xi erba studenti li spiccaw tqala jew imorru isibu id droga huma gewwa paceville.. tarhom qas jifilhu jicaqilqu fuq il bankieni ta paceville! it tort tahom mghadniex alfejn nehlu ahna mahom! Jihdu hsiebhom u mhux ax huma barraninn fil clubs ihalluhom jidhlu taht leta!
Kristina Mifsud
Aug 11th 2011, 11:04
Naqbel mieghek Monique ghax mhux sewminhabba fihom nehlu ahna!
Rachel Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 11:51
Completely agree with you! Most trouble and lawlessness is caused by these so called students 'wanting' to 'learn' english. I was an english teacher for the last 4 years, and the stories I hear in the classroom the morning after are just plain ridiculous. Why should the maltese suffer the consequences of these students who come here for a few weeks, when the Maltese are here all year round. I havent been in Malta for winter for a long time, but I bet its then that we get a breath of fresh air!
Bernice Farrugia
Aug 11th 2011, 12:19
Do you really go to Paceville? Qatt ma spiccaw Maltin tqal? Qatt ma marru jfittxu d droga l Maltin? Qatt ma rajt Maltin fuq il-bankina ma jifilhux jiccaqalqu? Qatt ma rajt Maltin taht l-eta' gol clubs? PV mux ha jinghalaq habba l-istudenti. PV ha jinghalaq minhabba s-sidien tal clubs li tant huma xhah li la jridu jhallsu as-sigurta' fil-clubs taghhom u wisq inqas iridu jirrifjutaw klijenti (anka jekk dawn l-istess klijenti huma taht l-eta!).
Twahhlux fil-barranin - wahhlu fil-Maltin stess!!
Albert Ostimani
Aug 11th 2011, 13:29
Bernice ghandha ragun. Mhux kulhadd irid imur jiddandan paceville, jixrob u x'naf jien u mbaghad taf kif nispiccaw? Jew serq, kaz ta' stupru, tfajliet tqal, glied, ecc... Ghalquh minn hemm paceville forsi Malta tikseb naqra dinjita` ahjar.
Rachel Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 14:30
And then? what do we do? Stay at home in the weekends? Given the size of Malta and its limited resources, we cannot possibly close the only entertainment hub on the island. Not only students frequent paceville, other tourists do, ones who know their limits unlike these students. And I say this because I have worked in close proximity to enlgiish language students and frequent paceville myself and happen to enjoy it, when it is under control. Now that the number of students are at its peak me and my friends frequent paceville less and less.
Albert Ostimani
Aug 11th 2011, 15:44
@Rachel Borg - if you're visiting paceville less than that's good. Mature people do not need paceville.
R. Gauci
Aug 11th 2011, 10:40
Language school must resemble boarding schools, that is, study, sleep and entertainment in the same premise. When they go out they must be accompanied and in groups. Not as it's happening now, they come, study for a couple of hours (with a hangover) and spend all day at the beach and the night at the clubs to get drunk. For me these are excuses for cheap holidays.
Mr Ernest Vella
Aug 11th 2011, 10:34
No English School Students in Malta which are underage. These are non-educated students who come to Malta as if it was Bangkok or Saigon at the time of the Vietnam War. Tourists are welcome, because they are so well educated but these so called "students" are just a flock of pigs going around looking for trouble.
Romina Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 11:56
Prosit 100% naqbel mieghek imma ma jaqbillomx ma jgibuwomx.... dejjem l-Malti jispicca jidher ikrah specjalment barra min xtutna
Mr Joseph Calleja
Aug 11th 2011, 15:12
Mr Vella, they are very welcome because they bring in money, lots of money. English Schools are another way of doing business. Money talks and bullsh.t walks Mr Vella, get used to it.
D.Stallion stewart
Aug 11th 2011, 10:28
Yes another copy cat of London
Karl von Brockdorff
Aug 11th 2011, 10:22
Its simple. The police have to PATROL and scatter themselves around the area instead of all conglomerating in the center. The police presence will be much more felt and idiocy and lawlessness will decrease dramatically.
CCTV will do nothing to deter this. It will only help apprehend these idiots after the act has been committed. It should not be used as a deterrent but a tool.
Mr John Montague
Aug 11th 2011, 10:08
CCTV's!!!
The best and only way to start - not the full and final solution, but this approach does break up the problem into manageable chunks - to be addressed by the law enforcement chaps in blue.
Victor Pulis
Aug 11th 2011, 10:03
Bhas soltu Malta nibdew xi haga li tkun tidher sabiha imbaghad maz zmien tiddeterjora f'dilettantizmu.
Jidher car li m'hemmx sorveljanza fuq min suppost jiehu hsieb dat tfal l-aqwa li naqilghu sold min fuqhom. Pajjiz tad dilettanti.
Mr Ernest Vella
Aug 11th 2011, 11:02
It-tfal x'ikunu qeghdin jaghmlu gewwa Paceville? It-tfal mhux posthom hemm u dan ilkoll nafuh imma ghax ihallu l-flus naghlqu ghajnejna!!! Tmur PV tkun qed tistieden l-inkwiet...u l-hmieg qed inbieghawh bhala attrazzjoni.
Carlos Espinal
Aug 11th 2011, 10:02
There is only one solution.
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
Lazy, demotivated cops who don't give a damn on what happens in Paceville will certainly NOT solve the problem.
If 50 fit, sharp and well trained agents are needed there every weekend, then so be it.
Mr Daniel Soler
Aug 11th 2011, 10:57
Agree with you 100%, the solution is most of the time the simplest one. ie increase security. if certain kids behave this way that means there is NO proper authority that is monitoring the Area.
E Schembri
Aug 11th 2011, 11:04
It is not the cops, but our crap system. The police are cautious when attempting to stop a fight because our law system will punish them for excessive force, injuring a 'minor' or something other silly excuse.
In Malta we first have to change this stupid mentality of defending the criminals rights and rather start protecting the victims by any means necessary.
Until then, the police corps are just a stage show.
Mr Stephen Florian
Aug 11th 2011, 09:58
Too little too late. In Spain ,Malta is now the mecca of booze and Spanish fee style binge drinking known as the bottellon. That is how they have showed us for the past two years on a Spanish popular TV channel.Try and fix that now....
Ms Eve Axiaq
Aug 11th 2011, 09:58
Ahjar 10 turisti sura milli dawn l-istudenti! Dawn ta' l-English Schools ghax ma jghidux li messhom jisthu jakkomodaw studenti ta' tlettax il- sena gol- qalba ta' Paceville b'tifel ta' tmintax il-sena jiehu hsieb.
Mr David Bonello
Aug 11th 2011, 10:56
Proset Ms Axiaq. 99% tal poplu malti bhalek jahsiba. U xi nghidu ghal vandalizmu li ir residenti tal inhawi qed isofru min studenti ta certu nazzjonalita li kullhadd jaf min huma, inkluz il leaders tal l-iskejjel li jghidulek li jigu hawn biex jiskru kulljum mux biex jitghalmu l-ingliz. Nisperaw f'gejjieni ahjar ghal kullhadd.
Victor Pulis
Aug 11th 2011, 09:56
Law And Security Team Group Acting For A Safe Paceville
Or LAST GASP!
Rachel Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 11:53
hehehehe
Christina Pace
Aug 11th 2011, 09:56
This must be a joke! Paceville was "becoming a haven of vice and violence" about ten years ago when language schoold were still a novelty. Now it simply is a haven of vice and violence. It goes to sleep for a while in the winter months but come summer and the return of "students", who come here to learn English (not get drunk, not get pregnant, not to attack others), PV is back to being a lawless Mecca.
I would much rather the language schools adopt a zero tolerance policy and proper supervision. Misbehaving students should be immediatelky sent home, instead of cheekily pointing fingers at authorities. After all their parents are paying you to watch them.
A Cuschieri
Aug 11th 2011, 10:12
Fully agree with this. It doesn't make sense that Language schools are trying to put all responsibility on authorities because after all they are the ones being paid to monitor the students' behaviour and safety.
Let's face it, PV was never a safe place, but you only get in trouble if you look for it - I've been many times in PV but never got into fights or arguments probably because I never looked for a fight or argument. So, language schools should stop blaming authorities and start taking their responsibility on their own shoulders.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Aug 11th 2011, 09:53
Aren't foreign students hosted by FELTOM one of the major causes of a free-for-all and sex orgies in paceville?
So put your money where your mouth is FELTOM and bring in decent students and also pay for more vigilance by the police as your students are a major factor to Paceville's decline to the gutter.
Steve Mifsud
Aug 11th 2011, 09:50
How about the language schools controlling their students? Friends of mine have had items pelted at them as they pass under balconies, others have had these idiot students standing in the middle of roads acting tough to simply block cars for fun.
Albert Ostimani
Aug 11th 2011, 09:46
How about closing paceville down and creating safer, better places for citizens? Places without abusive drinking, bullying, abuse tolerance, etc?
Rachel Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 11:57
Closing Paceville down? Are you kidding me? What are we, youths of Malta going to do in the weekends. Cinemas? No too expensive...umm...no I can't come up with anything else. Speaking for myself, when I go to paceville, i don't spend a dime on alcohol and just have fun with my friends and enjoy dancing around to the contemporary music. When you can propose something that can successfully replace it, please enlighten us!
Albert Ostimani
Aug 11th 2011, 13:16
A ballroom? I mean, a decent, non-smoking, ballroom?
Rachel Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 14:31
sure, a ballroom sounds fun! Why not get a zoo with it as well.....
Albert Ostimani
Aug 11th 2011, 15:14
Why not? Better than having girls raped, alcoholics, people smoking, people with tattoos and doing drugs, people abusing or bullying other citizens, etc
Franco Farrugia
Aug 11th 2011, 09:34
FELTOM is correct to make this observation. However, it should also put its money where its mouth is and chip in, as they say, with the extra expenses involved in rendering Paceville a safer place.
Imagine this scenario: FELTOM, representing a number of commercial educational companies, who make money partly out of Paceville. At the same time, the taxpayer has to fork out the money required to render Paceville safer. That does not make sense, does it, now?
So, Feltom - contribute, instead of merely coming out with your observations.
Ryan Scicluna
Aug 11th 2011, 09:34
I see a lot of comments about removing the foreign students to solve the problem ........ Very helpful because we Maltese are SO CIVILIZED hux
Christina Pace
Aug 11th 2011, 10:00
Actually we are. You see we Maltese are concentrated, well, everywhere on this Island, these students are concentrated in PV, yet its only PV that is the lawless mecca in question not the entire island now is it?
Ramon Mangion
Aug 11th 2011, 09:22
Language schools should be more vigilant with their " students" > it's their students who cause problems in various cases. sooo
David Farrugia
Aug 11th 2011, 09:22
Where is the Police in the streets? Oh...the Police Force is demoralized and stretched to the limit. Who is to blame? The Government. He assured them to pay them the overtime arrears and he is now using the money to build a new Academy. So I say to the Federation....the problem lies within the Government,,,punto e basta.
Franco Abela
Aug 11th 2011, 09:37
The UK, after the riots, have just realised that police presence is important in the streets... I wonder what it will take for the local Govt to realise this too!
From the UK riots article...
"more police on the streets makes them safer and not only at times like this."
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110811/world/uk-violence-subsides-cameron-urged-to-reconsider-police-cuts.379704
Mr Dunstan Crockford
Aug 11th 2011, 09:18
Feltom should be helping the overworked Police officers and employing their own `guardians`! Students should be told to adhere to the laws of our country and should always carry a tag or ID to include the host family name or hotel.Feltom should also ensure that host families do not give the house keys to young students who spend most of the night roaming the place and bay dead drunk! This is what gives the schools a bad name! Most of the youth leaders employed by the schools are too young and often take on this work to enjoy themselves too!
Joseph Borg
Aug 11th 2011, 09:16
charity begins at home jghidu......ahjar dawn is so called "Language schools" jiehdu hsieb l istudenti taghhom milli jitfaw il blame fuq l awtoritajiet. (minhix nghid li ma hemmx xi jsir paceville ta...far from it)
Tlett kwarti tal istudenti (apparti dawk li jkunu fil host families) jigu hawn biex jiskru, jhawdu ma dak u ma dik, iqazzu fejn ikunu u jhallu mandra warajhom u lanqas haga li jitghallmu huwa l-INGLIZ!! Tmur il bajja ta San Gorg titqazzez! 13/14 yr olds jipprovaw jidhru cool ma shabhom!
X tippretendu jekk dawn l iskejjel gibtuwhom money makers....balla studenti mixhutin orga shiha ghal rihhom go hotels go nofs paceville stess, xi kultant ikollhom leader ta mhux aktar min 18-19 il sena jiehu hsiebhom?
Jiena minhix persuna frekwenti ta Paceville pero ftit tal jiem ilu kont ghaddej min hdejn uhud min dawn il hotels it-tnejn (mhux fil weekend) u hlief burdell ma kienx hemm, storbju, ghajjat sahansitra mil gallariji, min hotel ghal ohra li jinsabu faccata ta xulxin u gozz nies barra il lukanda jitmeku mal art. Jittantaw lill kull min jghaddi u dan fis-2am/3am ta filghodu........... nahseb ghal lessons iqumu qishom ghasafar friski biex jitghallmu!
Imbghad is sabiha jidhlu l isptar fis sakra u taghmel eternita tipprova ssib min suppost huwa responsabli ghal individwi u mhux talli hekk talli kif jirnexxielek tiskopri min qed jiehu hsiebhom u ccempel lill xi hadd minnhom bilkhemm ma jehodiex kontrik li qlajtu mid dar f nofs ta lejl!
Dawn tridu tiehdu hsieb l -ewwel qabel ma tmaqdru u tippuntaw subajghkom....taraw x tahwid ghandkom inthom fil moghod kif tmexxu lill dawn l-istudenti li go pajjizhom anqas biss ikunu ghadhom raw grokk quddiem wicchom u INTHOM titfawhom ghal rihom gol qalba tad divertiment ta Malta!
Jiena ghalija jistaw anqas biss jersqu lejn Malta ....ahjar 10 turisti sura milli 100 student! u nassigurakhom li bhali jahsbuwha hafna ohrajn!
Dominic Williams
Aug 11th 2011, 09:49
Prosit Joseph...dawn is suppost studenti dardruh pajjizna .Halluna Felto iddahkunix!!
Mr charles vella
Aug 11th 2011, 09:51
Surely I cannot agrer more with you... I
Live in Swieqi, and you should come see for your self what happens there!! These students should not be counted as tourists, because they are not! They don't spend money here... Well they do, just on booze! Some years ago when I was still a university student and worked as a waiter in a restaurant in PV I remember that they use to have a plate of pasta (shared) by 3 persons!! And a pint of coke shared by three... So, one main course, in the middle of the table and 3 empty plates! 1 pint of coke with three straws!! Other who worked in this industry know what I am saying! They hardly spend 10 Euro all together... So please, the government should stop calling these troublesome, unwanted maniacs as tourists! The only reason they come to Malta is because booze is still still cheap, compared to other EU countries, and naturally they come here for sex and just to party wild... Very far from the concept of learning English!!
John Zammit
Aug 11th 2011, 10:03
Prosit Joseph Borg ma stajtx ktibt ahjar. Naqbel mieghek 100%.
L. Vella
Aug 11th 2011, 09:07
I think language schools in general should not have been built and opened in an area such as Paceville. Schools receiving children should not have been built near places where alcohol is in abundance. The schools should have 24 hour surveillance over each student, I am sure they get paid enough for it.
Furthermore, I am disgusted to see Paceville overrun by children drinking uncontrollably and becoming intoxiced and out of control before the night has even started. I think Paceville should be a no go zone for anyone under 18 years old, not to mention those who are in the 13 - 15 age group!
Mr Andrei Azzopardi
Aug 11th 2011, 09:32
But then establishments would go bankrupt would they? (pun intended)
Carlos Espinal
Aug 11th 2011, 10:03
100% Agreed
Victor Pulis
Aug 11th 2011, 10:06
Do you think that the schools were opened in the vicinity of Paceville by coincience? It was all planned and the present situation suits some people that's why it will not be rectified.
Mr Chris Mifsud
Aug 11th 2011, 08:57
The language schools should first start controlling their students before they even think about complaining about Paceville.
Their students especially in the Swieqi area are noisy, rude and vandalize peoples cars and property. They also piss, puke and shag in peoples gardens. They walk in the middle of the road at 4 AM and shout and make noise.
U. D'Amico
Aug 11th 2011, 08:53
yeh...take away the students.. thats 75% of the problem solved
L Schembri
Aug 11th 2011, 08:52
Then why do language schools organize their first familiariaztion outings straight to Paceville as soon as these 14/15 year old students land in malta??!!!! They should be warned not to go near that place after 8pm!!!
Andre Debono
Aug 11th 2011, 08:50
Fight going on for 25 mins in front of bay street, girl knocked out on d floor, 5 men all over each other like they're lions on zebras, in the middle of the road....but wait no policeman in sight!!....just a little example!
Christina Pace
Aug 11th 2011, 10:09
They were probably handling another untrication and couldn't make it, or the police car was blocked by students standing still on the road and couldn't get there.
Andre Debono
Aug 11th 2011, 12:29
@Christina Pace
yeah sure on a sunday early evening.....right right....in any case some of the police layin in pv only step in after the whole chaos and damage have been made.....i remember another fight with bottles flying in front of a bar in paceville....a bottle just flew by me...i went to tell the police about it and they were only a few metres away...they didnt give a damn kept on chit chatting until another 5 ppl came running towards them...until their slumpy rears got to the 'scene' a guy was on d ground with blood all over his face.....very reliable blue uniformed badge bearin dummies!
Alistor Aguis
Aug 11th 2011, 08:50
A safer Paceville for us not for the tourists
Andre Debono
Aug 11th 2011, 12:38
the maltese economy feeds on tourists...hence that was a waste of webspace and waste of 3 seconds of my life....
Mr J Busuttil
Aug 11th 2011, 08:28
What a cheek first and foremost the language schools should teach their students as they arrive in Malta to make our roads safer. In the Pacaville - St. Julians - Pembroke and Swieqi area they all walk in the middle of the roads, by the central strips and not to mention all the vandalism and noise being caused through out the night. They have become number one public enemy in the summer season in these areas.
Mr Lawrence Mifsud
Aug 11th 2011, 08:38
Yes, what a cheek! It is true that Maltese are the cause of many fights and ugly incidents. However, Maltese are not the cause, for example, of accidental deaths from falls from heights.
ryan cann
Aug 11th 2011, 08:47
I agree fully with Mr Busuttil. During the summer season Swieqi is full of students walking in the middle of the road, noise in the middle of the night and not to mention vandalism especially on cars. They think they own Malta. However, I still agree that violence should never be tolerated both on international students and on Maltese citizens but violence in PV has been going on for a long time and the authorities know about it.
A Camilleri
Aug 11th 2011, 08:53
well said mr busuttil, they should clean their own backyard first before they come out with such statements.
A Camilleri
Aug 11th 2011, 09:26
Agreed!! sometimes its the students that start most of the trouble, not calling Maltese angels AT ALL, but in most countries they cant drink till their older, here is a haven for them!! ive seen them provoke bouncers for arguments aswell! they try to push into a queue to get into a club then they open their hands wide to a bouncer like 'come on hit me', they would get chewed up if they did that in their country!! i dont even go to paceville in the summer anymore unless really necessary to attend a celebration, and i wont untill the student crowd calms down and its nice and easy for me to get a drink by the bar, students come here to party not to learn english lets face it! mini Ibiza for them........... @Maria Vassallo, agreed too! I know it brings tourism to our Island, however i thought the above argument would have happened ages ago and it would only be time for the parents to say no way your not going to Malta after what ive heard..............
Maria Vassallo
Aug 11th 2011, 07:59
A lawless-mecca!
Anexhibitionist-mecca!
An almost nudist-mecca!
A multiform sexual-mecca!
Better late than never?
That is the way you wanted it, that is the way you have had it!
Paceville does not need any thorough criminal investigation and subsequently a media exposure!
Kate Galea
Aug 11th 2011, 09:27
yes totally agree with your descriptions!!! And what about the gentlemen's clubs that are opening in every corner??? Soon Paceville will be turning as the Maltese red light district!!
Andre Debono
Aug 12th 2011, 12:35
@Kate Galea
no exageration please!
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