President signs divorce bill - set to become law today
President George Abela has signed the Divorce Bill and it is due to be published in the Government Gazette today, thus becoming law.
The law is expected to become effective on October 1, giving the government time to set up the administrative mechanism needed for people to be able to apply for divorce.
The House of Representatives approved the Bill by a large majority on Monday.
The Bill had been presented as a private member's motion by Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando in July last year. It was subsequently co-sponsored by Labour MP Evarist Bartolo.
A referendum in May approved the introduction on divorce based on the no-fault concept. Estranged couples must be separated for four of the preceding five years in order to be eligible for divorce, and provision has to be made for the care of the children. Arrangements made in separation contracts are not affected.
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Alfred Fenech
Jul 30th 2011, 16:55
Thank You akk its over now. The YES have it the NO will be forgotten.
Gerhard Soto
Jul 30th 2011, 04:16
Allowing divorce is one of the steps to separate more the Church from the State, and like democracry itself it is also one more step to separate the State from divine and natural laws. The possible "tyranny of the masses" is a concept quite alien to modern democratic thinking. Conversely, the word democracy has become a synonym of freedom, whilst in fact, tyranny or freedom can indifferently be found or not found in a democracy. The people become the sole judge of what is good and bad, just or unjust. What do people think is source of authority?
The source of true, justice and morals has always been God, and not opinions, and as catholics they should know it. However, it seems some at least may have renounced their christian faith by allowing something other than what God teaches. It follows that a State without religion inevitably becomes immoral sooner or later.
"It is a proven truth, a historical fact, that there is no true civilisation without a moral civilisation, and no true moral civilisation without the true Church." (St. Pius X)
"The moral order does not hold except in God. Cut off from God it disintegrates." (John XXIII "Mater et Magistra")
"The life of the nations is now disintegrating through a blind cult for the force of numbers. Every citizen is now a voter, but ... as such, he is only a unit of a number making up the majority. His position, his place in the family or in the professions are not taken into account." (Pius XII - Message of 6th Apr. 1951)
"In political and economic matters, the laws ... are not determined by the deceptive wishes of the multitude, but by truth and justice; the authority of rulers is vested with a sacredness more than human."(Leo XIII. "Immortale Dei")
"What a spectacle is that of a democratic State left to the whims of the masses! Liberty, which is really a duty of the individual, becomes a tyrannous claim of freedom to give free rein to one's impulses and appetites at whatever cost or detriment to others." (Pius XII - Christmas 1944)
Mr Mike Abbot
Jul 30th 2011, 11:52
"and no true moral civilisation without the true Church."
how exactly is this a fact?
angelo cilia
Jul 30th 2011, 14:14
Popes don't like democracy, it interferes with their control by tyranny.
Raymond Sacco
Jul 30th 2011, 16:10
@gerhard soto:
"It is a proven truth, a historical fact, that there is no true civilisation without a moral civilisation, and no true moral civilisation without the true Church."
what in fact is a proven truth and a historic fact is that when your catholic church ruled europe by it's 'true morals'; terror, persecution and mass murders were the order of the day! so if there is an institution who should lecture us about civilisation, freedom and democracy, the catholic church lies at the very end of the list!
alfred agius
Jul 29th 2011, 23:57
Kontra d-divorzju? Mela kontra l-annullament, kontra s-separazzjoni u kontra l-koabitazzjoni.
Il-Papa Benedittu XXVI stqarr li `l-valur taz-zwieg nisrani jinqered fil-prattika ghaliex jimmultiplikaw irwiehhom b`mod ezagerat id-dikjarazzjonijiet ta` nullita` taz-zwieg b`mod li jsiru kwazi awtomatici f`kaz ta` falliment ta` zwieg bl-iskuza ta` xi immaturuta` jew dghjufija psikika ta` parti jew l-ohra .`
Mhux biss...
Meta koppja kienu qalu `iva` quddiem is-sacerdotn jista` jaghti l-kaz li ma kienux sincieri, izda diga` kienu diga` ftehmu bejniethom li, jekk iz-zwieg ma jirnexxix ghal xi raguni jew ohra, jew ghax ma setghux ikollhom ulied jew jixbghu minn xulxin, huma jinfirdu u jfittxu li jerghu jizzewgu ma` haddiehor.. Jekk permezz ta` xhieda jippruvaw li l-kunsens taz-zwieg kien ikkundizzjonat , iz-zwieg jigi dikjarat invalidu ghax biex zwieg ikun validu jhtieh li l-`iva` taghhom ikun assolut u mhux marbut b`xi kundizzjoni. (Ara Lehen is-Sewwa, 22/11/2008)
Iva, min hu kontra d-divorzju ghandu jkun konta l-annullament, is-separazzjoni u l-koabitazzjoni ghax dawn kollha jgibu problemi fuq is-socjeta` u partikolarment fuq it-tfal.
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alfred agius
Jul 29th 2011, 22:07
Can someone enlighten me on the hypothetical question whether a president of the Republic could refuse to sign the Divorce Bill notwithstanding its approval by a referendum and more than two thirds of the House of Representatives.
Could this have happened. And , if in the affermative, what then ?
I have in mind one former president of the Republic and one other public figure presently involved in politics who is ambitious enough to occupy this high ranking position.
C
Alfred Gatt
Jul 29th 2011, 21:31
Mr jon farrugia - Yes, Chernobyl was an accident but the devastation was and is still there. I wonder what regrets there will be later on as time goes by.
Mr Victor Pulis: It's not shelters we need; it's people who have the 'real' love for the family and the guts to stand up for the family.
Joseph Sammut: Low turn-out does not make the people; it shows that people are indifferent to what is happening around them and do not have the foresight of the damage that could result in not perticipating.
Victor Pulis
Jul 30th 2011, 10:33
It's not shelters we need; it's people who have the 'real' love for the family and the guts to stand up for the family.
Don't worry, we'll still have them. I for one will still love my wife and family notwithstanding the fact that now we have divorce legislation. people will continue to get married, have families and stay together until death do them part. Unfortunately we will also have failed marriages like we've been having these last few thousand years.
Mr Martin Saliba
Jul 29th 2011, 19:51
Someone please remind me whose victory was guaranteed so i can thank him personaly for his contribution towards the yes campain
Mr M Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 20:53
The passing of this divorce law is no victory for anyone.
Certainly no for us, when we realise that it will be the ruin of many families.
What sort of victory is this ??
Mr Peter Korsten
Jul 29th 2011, 21:45
"What sort of victory is this ??"
A victory for democracy. For some people, that's something that happens in other countries.
Mr John Cassar
Jul 29th 2011, 22:02
M.Borg
It's a victory for those who the church repressed with it's dogma for years. It's a victory for people power over a confessional establishment.
As for Joe Zammit, he will not reply. Rumor has it that he has moved to the Philippines.
Alfred Grech
Jul 29th 2011, 22:22
The guarantee was guaranteed by Joe Zammit and I can guarantee you that he may be vacationing somewhere far away to recover from his shock.
Ms Monica Muscat
Jul 29th 2011, 19:12
Thank you your Excellency. You have shown yourself to be a real Head of State. I know that, as per your stated views, you, like myself, are against Divorce. For a short time I was on tanter hocks, fearing that your Excellency would refuse to sign the Bill, and induce a situation which would prolong an unhappy state of affairs.
Now it is for the future to show what we all make of this law.
Mr Kurt Waschnig
Jul 29th 2011, 18:51
The heated debate is going on and it is very interesting to read all comments. Up to now 166 comments have been published.
President George Abela has signed the Divorce Bill and the law is expected to become effective on October 1.
The outcome of the referendum on divorce showed a clear majority that the Maltese wished a change and The President of Malta has signed the Divorce Bill today.
The opponents of the Divorce Bill can lament as much as possible. the fact is that democracy and reason has won against ideology.
Therefore this is a great day for Malta.
Malta´s democracy is stable and is working. Wonderful!
Best regards
Kurt Waschnig Oldenburg Germany
Alfred Gatt
Jul 29th 2011, 23:58
Whether you can equate reason with democracy in the question of divorce is debatable or in any other subject, such as abortion,which is the killing of the inocent. Maybe you are not aware that a strong family unit is the basis for a strong society and it follows logically that a weakened family setup means a weakened society. I wonder if the problems facing German society do not stem from family difficulties.
Alfred Gatt
Jul 29th 2011, 18:14
The 'chernobyl' of the family has started. The devastation wreaked by the nuclear explosion of Cheernobyl is well known and is still with us today. This is what the Divorce Law is: The 'chernobyl of the family'. This is only understandable to those who have a deep meaning of what the family is and its great importance in society.
Mr jon farrugia
Jul 29th 2011, 18:25
Chernobyl was an accident.
Divorce was CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 18:40
I'm starting to dig my fallout shelter right now!
Joseph Sammut
Jul 29th 2011, 19:58
@ John Farrugia: wrong - low turnout does make The People.
Mr Peter Korsten
Jul 29th 2011, 21:54
"wrong - low turnout does make The People."
Low turnout? At 72%? You need to look abroad. There are many countries where the politicians would have party if actually 72% bothered to show up.
Ramon Casha
Aug 20th 2011, 16:31
Chernobyl? No it's WWIII. No wait, it's Armageddon! The end of the universe! AAAAAGH!!
Mr ALBERT FENECH
Jul 29th 2011, 18:01
H.E. The President Dr George Abela has shown why he is fit and proper to be President. Although I am certain he is personally against Divorce he showed maximum responsibility in recognising the majority wishes of the country and its "yes" Parliamentary vote. That is the mark of true statesmanship - when you can retain your beliefs but exercise the right of others to have diametrically opposite beliefs. What a pity that some other politicians did not show the same backbone and statesmanship.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 18:45
If the President did not sign the bill, the divorce law wouldn't go through. On the other hand MPs have the option to vote according to their beliefs as long as the majority votes in favor.
Mr ALBERT FENECH
Jul 29th 2011, 19:09
@ Mr Borg
Via your reasoning, MPs might as well stay away from Parliament because what will be, will be. Maybe that is why so many don't bother and stay away. That is hardly statesmanship and credibility when you are voted by the people and you are being paid by the people to exercise their democratic wishes!
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
Mr Tommy Vella
Jul 29th 2011, 20:01
If i understood your original comment well: That is the mark of true statesmanship - when you can retain your beliefs but exercise the right of others to have diametrically opposite beliefs. You are saying that every MP should have voted yes.
If so, your second contribution is contradictory, for once the people voted there was no need of a discussion in parliament and hence MPs could have stayed away and the law be declared passed with 65 votes.
Or am I living with Alice in Wonderland?
Mr ALBERT FENECH
Jul 29th 2011, 20:10
@ Mr Tommy Vella
Yes, theoretically ALL MPs should have voted "yes" because that is what the people decided. Government is FOR the people, BY the people. Parliamentary representatives are PAID for by the people. In any case, my second reply was to Mr Borg and not an addendum to my first contribution which was clear enough although perhaps not to you.
ALBERT FENECH
Qawra
Alfred Grech
Jul 29th 2011, 22:33
This President has shown his connection with the people. I stated and will state again that he should be allowed to serve at least a second term. Malta feels relaxed with him as our President - should have said, our Beloved President.
Mr Tommy Vella
Jul 30th 2011, 18:29
@ It seems as if YOU did not understand my point.
You said that via Joe Borg's reasoning MPs might as well stay away from Parliament.
But you accepted my point that is via YOUR REASONING that MPs should stay away from parliament. If all votes should have been yes what point was there in discussing the law? It is only because MPs disagree that a discussion is required.
Lolita Lija
Jul 29th 2011, 17:56
Remember all, Cohabitation was the only solution that was offered by the 'No' movement the PN and the church,so Thank You, To the "YES" campaigners.
Alla mhux tal-LE biss...imma tal-IVA ukoll.
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 18:47
Jhekk temmen f'Alla, issa tkun taf meta issejjahlhekk.
Spiro Sant
Jul 29th 2011, 19:45
@Mr Joe Borg,I weep for people like you Seriously,so mass murderers and other really evil people can go to heaven after asking for forgiveness and repenting Divorced no.Sur Borg were there is no love there is no marriage, whether divorced or not.When people divorce, it’s always such a tragedy. At the same time, if people stay together it can be even worse.
Mr Wayne Hewitt
Jul 29th 2011, 17:32
Il-ligi tad-Divorzju hijja rebha ohra ghal kredenzjali demokratici tal-Partit Nazzjonalista, fejn anki fuq suggett li ma kienx jaqbel mieghu bhala pozizzjoni ufficjali tal-Partit, ra li l-poplu jkun sovran bhal ma dejjem kien taht Gvernijiet Nazzjonalisti.
Laurence grech
Jul 29th 2011, 17:50
u bhekk gonzi ivvota le..
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 29th 2011, 17:59
Hewitt.
Kredenzjali demokratici qed t'alludi ghal "LE" ta Gonzi, imma xorta ghaddiet b'maggoranza assoluta ta "IVA"
Mr M Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 17:26
@ Kurt Wasching ( 13.19 )
" I feel joy and the Maltese can be proud today .
Friday July 29 2011 should become a public holiday in Malta and this day should be celebrated. "
I do hope that you were joking when you wrote this . Why should anyone in his right mind celebrate such a day ? A day which spells the end to marriage as we know it.
Why should we feel proud about this ?
I have many German friends and they are always at awe at the strength of our marriages. Most of them are so afraid of marriage , they know that 40 % of German marriages end in divorce, that they choose to cohabit.
This not what we want for Malta. We do not want " lots of Maltese " to get divorced. We will not feel proud knowing that many children will be suffering because of divorce. Being surrounded by broken families is not something to be proud of.
This is a dark day for Malta.
R Abela
Jul 29th 2011, 17:59
Tkomplix iddahhal rasek fir ramel, marriage as we know it ilu li spicca, divorzju u jew le.
Anthony E. Falzon
Jul 29th 2011, 18:34
We are not very far from what you are saying. Many of our youngsters are sort of afraid to get married, but not because of divorce, it is because of modernism and this modernism has been with us quite a long time now. Get a statistic of seperations and you why!!!
Cohabit....LOL
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 18:47
Fejn qatt ma qbilna waqt dan id- dibattitiu f'din naqbel mieghek sur Borg. Ma rridux lots of Maltese to get divorce. Anzi ghandna naghmlu minn kollox biex din il ligi tigi uzata kemm jista' jkun mill inqas. Bhal kaxxa tal first aid tajjeb li jkollok wahda fid dar imma taghmel minn kollox biex ma tigix bzonnha. imma jibqa' l-fatt li hemm xi zwiegijiet li sfortunatament ma jirnexxux u din il ligi tista' tkun it triq biex jergghu jibdew hajjithom mill gdid. Issa kulhadd irid jahdem biex kemm jista' jkun ikollna zwiegijiet b'sahhithom.
Il fatt li ghandna l-ligi ma jfissirx li n-nies mhux se jibqghu ihobbu lill xulxin u jaghmlu s-sgrificcji.
Adele Mintoff
Jul 29th 2011, 17:09
Thank You JPO, Debs and Varist ! Hadn't JPO made the first move, nothing would have happened and this would have remained a farfetched dream.
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 15:24
Ghal meta t-terremot u t-tsunami?!
R Abela
Jul 29th 2011, 18:00
ghal 1 ta ottubru LOL!
angelo cilia
Jul 29th 2011, 15:22
I love the way Malta is turning into a protestant nation !
Good times ahead for sure now.
Mr jon farrugia
Jul 29th 2011, 18:22
Malta will always be a Catholic nation but is now being run by a Secular Government. Long may it continue!!!!
Mr Joseph Calleja
Jul 29th 2011, 15:03
It's over, it's done it is a law. Please stop coming up with idiotic comments and such. For those of you who are still in denial, I say wake up because Malta now has a divorce law. It is there for those who need it. Stop making excuses about unsatisfied men and women and whatever excuse you can come up with. If divorce is good for the man, it will be just as good for the woman. Divorce is still a very serious matter and should not be taken lightly by anybody. Like anything else there will always be those who would abuse the system but that is understandable. In the meantime accept the fact that Malta finally has a divorce law which will go into effect on October 01, 2011. President Abela did the right thing in signing the divorce initiative into law, now let us move forward and look for better things to come. I for one am glad that we have a divorce law in Malta so those who need it don't have to go overseas and apply for a divorce there, and then it is recognized by the local government. That was one of the most idiotic laws we had in Malta. Another good thing happening with this law, and that is none of us are at the mercy of the church in obtaining a divorce, or as they preferred to call it, an Annulment. Those days are over and the Tribunal can be dismantled or maybe put to better use. Either way, I hope we all catch a break before we engage on a different topic. So for those of you who did not vote, your conscience is clear. For those of you who voted no, you lost. For those of you who voted yes, you won. For those of you who live overseas and took advantage of the 35 euro fare on Air Malta, you got to visit with the family and hopefully enjoyed the last freebie fare(35 euros) to come and vote. And for the government who squandered 4,000,000 euros on a useless referendum, shame on you. Maybe now we can discuss the squandering of money being spent to move the Triton Fountain or the fiasco created by the new bus routes, and yes of course the Cohabitation Law. But the hottest topic should be, the Demise of Air Malta and the redundancy off 511 of their employees. Another government snafu?
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 17:08
very patronising comment, as if you are going to shut anyone up!!!
the kgb has a vacancy!
Mr Joseph Calleja
Jul 29th 2011, 19:03
Mr Zammit Spiteri, the truth always hurt. " as if you are going to shut anyone up!!!" You are very free to speak. How do you know the KGB have vacancies? Are you a member Mr Spriteri?
Mr Tommy Vella
Jul 29th 2011, 21:08
I am not in denial. I know that we have a divorce law but I also know that divorce is not good and nothing can make me say that divorce is good, even if I were the last man standing, to quote someone.
Mr Wayne Hewitt
Jul 29th 2011, 14:45
Grazzi lil Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando u grazzi lill-Partit Nazzjonalista, li bhala l-partit fil-poter, taghna l-opportunita li ndahhlu ligi responsabbli tad-Divorzju f'pajjizna. Grazzi mill-qalb.
Mr Jo Meli
Jul 29th 2011, 15:39
WAYNEEEEEEEEEEE !!!
Are YOU sound of mind ???
Was it NOT your present Leader, Lorry Gonzi, totally against Divorce (so much so that Lorry Gonzi voted against the Bill in all its stages), as was the Executive and the Partit Nazzjonalista - in toto AGAINST the introduction of Divorce in Malta ??
or you have a habit to jumping from one Universe to a different reality Parallel Universe ?
GRAZZI to Secular Malta in general and to Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando, Evarist Bartolo in particular !!
paul Baldacchino
Jul 29th 2011, 15:57
Nahseb li qed ticcajta habib meta tghid li l-PN taghna ligi tad-divorzju. Kieku ghedt li l-parlamentari liberali fi hdan il-PN u l-maggoranza assoluta tal-parlamentari tal-PL kont tkun izjed preciz. Li kien ghal Prim MInistru u l-fidili ta' madwaru illum dik il-ligi ma tezistiex. U maghhom inzidu l-arci konservattivi fil-kurja ta'Malta. Il-pass li jmiss huwa li tigi amendata l-kostituzzjoni biex tissahhah id-distinzjoni bejn knisja u stat.
Mr J Xerri
Jul 29th 2011, 16:31
Illum ghandna kumment wiehed bhal dan, imma kif bassarna, jghaddu s-snin u l-Partit Nazzjonalista johrog jiftahar li bis-sahha tieghu gie d-divorzju... kif ftahar b'hafna affarijiet ohra li attwalment tkellem kontrihom u illum ghax jaqbel jiftahar li ghamilhom hu.
Nigel Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 16:57
Int taf tisthi habib?! Grazzi lil JPO naqbel mieghak, imma tistgha tghidli kif tista tghid grazzi lil PN wara li l-kabinett kollu ivvvota kontra jew astjena??
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 29th 2011, 18:01
@Nigel.
Ghidlu ghidlu. Mi hu ghama ma jarax.
Mr Tommy Vella
Jul 29th 2011, 20:05
Kif qatt divorzju, speċjalment fejn hemm it-tfal, jista' jkun responsabbli. Diġà smajna fl-emendi li għaddew mill-parlament it-taħwid li se jkun hemm bejn id-drittijiet u d-dmirijiet tal-missier (l-omm) naturali u l-missier (l-omm) taż-żwieġ il-ġdid. Dik responsabbiltà!!
David Caruana
Jul 29th 2011, 14:42
Kemm hawn min hu injorant jahasra! Hafna qed igergru ghaliex ha jkollhom ihallsu xi taxxa gdida minhabba d-divorzju... min fejn gabhu din l-informazzjoni, ma nafx. Pero' naghmlu mod li ghandhom ragun u f'certi kazijiet l-iStat ha jkollhu jghin finanzjarjament certi kazijiet. Dawn qed igergru ghax ma jridux li t-taxxi taghhom jigu uzati ghal dawn il-kazijiet.
Tajjeb! Jien nigri kuljum u noqghod attent x'niekol, allura missni bhal dawn, ma naccettax li nhallas NI biex wiehed li jiekol junk food kuljum u ma jiccaqlax minn fuq is-siggu, ikolli nhallaslu xi bypass il-quddiem.
Is-sitwazzjoni hawn hija EZATT l-istess - dawn l-erwieh twajba (sic) ma jridux li jhallsu taxxa li forsi parti minnha tigi uzata ghal mara msawwta li tixtieq tibda hajjitha mill-gdid.
Isthu! Imbasta mmorru l-quddiesa, umbaghad il-hdura tispikka!
Mr Emmanuel Bonnici
Jul 29th 2011, 14:42
Imissha niggzitu l-kuxjenza lil President u ma ffirmahx il-"Bill"
Seta ghamel hekk, u kieku seta xkien jigri kieku! Ara l-panic eh! :)
Lolita Lija
Jul 29th 2011, 14:33
Lemons anybody?
Joseph Sammut
Jul 29th 2011, 14:54
Why, you've had enough?
Bernard Mamo
Jul 29th 2011, 14:58
xi hadd kien jikteb hekk:
Join in the battle between God and the devil! Fight the good fight! The victory is ours, it's already guaranteed!
lol dik garanzija!
angelo cilia
Jul 29th 2011, 14:28
Today will be forever known as Joe Zammit day.
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 14:41
If you want you can add my name too.
angelo cilia
Jul 29th 2011, 15:16
No, we will keep it pure and simple.
Victory is ours, it is guaranteed Joe Zammit deserves the honours every July 29th from now on.
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 15:29
@ angelo cilia
Even mine
Mr Joseph Calleja
Jul 29th 2011, 15:45
Mr Borg and Mr Hili consider it done. Your names will be forever remembered on every July 30th from this day on. You all contributed to the Yes Vote. Oh by the way there a few others I don't want to mention. So to all of you that helped the Yes vote to go through, Thank You. Divorce in Malta has become law, get over it.
Mr M Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 16:55
@ angelo cilia
Let us give it a year or two, only then will we know who will be having the last laugh !
Although , between you and me, I do not think there will be anything to laugh about.
R Abela
Jul 29th 2011, 18:01
LIKE !
angelo cilia
Jul 29th 2011, 18:50
There is nothing to laugh at Mr. Borg, those that unfortunately need a divorce in Malta will be properly served and those who don't need a divorce will no longer interfere in the rights of others that need a divorce.
It is as simple as that.. and it is guaranteed.
Very sweet I say.
Philip Hili
Jul 30th 2011, 00:33
@ Mr Joseph Calleja
Dear Mr Calleja,
You are very much mistaken when you say that I contributed to the Yes vote because I spoke my mind. Maybe you are one of those persons who do not tolerate opinions which differ to yours. Had I remained quite in front of my computer, reading some of your silly comments, you would have kept me in your good books. But because I spoke my mind, and expressed my dismay for this unethical move coming from a member on the government side and behind everybody's back, I am in your bad books! But never mind, drop me a note a year or two later from now or from the 30th July 2011 and we will see who was right in his arguments.
Yes unfortunately it is done but you have to add "with the help of two disloyal Nationalist MPs" because had it not been with their help, non of the Labour MPs were going to speak their mind and bring this subject forward, owing to various reasons!!!
If I have never congratulated the MLP or now the PL for dirty political moves, I must admit that this time I have to congratulate the PL because it did a very good job, that of taking advantage of the situation and leaped on the promoter's move thus the PL got what he wanted - scot-free!!
Finally, may I remind you that the 30th July 2011 will be marked a black day for me and for all my entire family.
Good night Joseph.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 29th 2011, 14:19
Well done Mr. President, you satisfied the people's wish and the decision by Parliament. Many separated families look forward to a better future, build a new family and children will carry the family surname.
Mario Grima
Jul 29th 2011, 14:14
I'll bet that from today onwards Gonzi will start having nightmares about the fact that divorce in Malta was intoduced under his watch.
And then he tries to convince us that he voted against the people's will because he was following his conscience. Go tell it to the marines
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 14:10
Mr Ernest Vella
Today, 12:37
ma tridx li naghtuhom ir-rikonixximent tar-Repubblika wkoll...sal-mewt ghandkom capcip u wara l-kastig.
Allura dawk li vvutaw ghad divorzju inkluz il parlamentari u l-President, dawk ukoll ghall kastig? Forsi hemm xi loophole li jistghu jghaddu minnha biex jehilsu min nar tal infern?!
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 14:03
Din il ligi jekk mhi se tiswa ghaxejn se tkun ta' incentiv biex kulhadd izomm il figure! U halluna, kemm naf nies b'figura ta' artist/a u xorta sfaxxalhom iz zwieg.
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 14:02
Matthew P. Zammit
Today, 12:05
Mill-1 t'Ottubru tibda l-battalja, il-hsieb li jtambar ul-weggha tal-qalb tal-individwu mieghu innifsu li jixtieq jissieheb f'relazzjoni ta' zwieg bit-tikketta fuq rasu li x'hin jasal il-waqt mhux maghruf jerga' jisfa wahdu minkejja li ma kienx hemm raguni ghalfejn iz-zwieg kellu jitkisser.
Jekk iz zwieg tkisser kif ma kienx hemm raguni?!! trid tkun altru iblah u mignun biex ittemm zwieg hieni u b'sahhtu.
Mr D Bonello
Jul 29th 2011, 13:55
Today history was made. History was made because dead beat dads will not longer get away with abandoning wife and kids and move on to another women without paying his debt. Now I encourage all those wives that there husband walked out on and file for divorce.
The new law protects you now and your former husband must pay almony to you and child support for his kids until 23. No more dead beat fathers with the divorce law.
guido cutajar
Jul 29th 2011, 13:39
Mela taht il P.M. Gorg Borg Olivier gibna l- Indipendenza....Taht il P.M. Dom. Mintoff ir Republika, taht il P.M. Edward Fenech Adami thalna fil E.U, u taht il P.M Gonzi dahhalna ID DIVORZJU.........Prosit Dr.Gonzi, bil kuxjenza tieghek kollha, ser tibqa imsemmi li tahtek dahal id divorzju.......x`rimors.
Mr Ernest Vella
Jul 29th 2011, 13:58
Guido, taht Gonzi l-EURO dahlet...id-divorzju Joseph Muscat dahlu u sihbu Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando
Mark Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 14:20
@Guido cutajar
Gonzi jibqa msemmi wkoll li halla l-MLP 5 snin extra fl-oppozizzjoni ... x'rimors hux :)
Joseph J. Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 14:28
Iva, attent ghax gej l-ahhar tad-dinja.
Mr Alex Buds
Jul 29th 2011, 14:29
I am in favor of divorce and my conscience would make me remorseful if I wasn't.
But your post is nevertheless amusing ;)
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 14:46
@ Guido Cutajar
Gwid, mhux Dr Gonzi u l-ghaxar Onorevoli Nazzjonalist li b'kollox huma hdax (11) flimkien ma' l-Onorevoli Dr Adrian Vassallo (PL) ghandhom ihossu ir-rimors li semmejt int ghax dawn kienu r-rgiel bizzejjed anzi zzejjed biex ma ngarrux mal-kurrent kif fil-fatt ippruvaw jaghmlulhom u dak li emmnu fieh stqarrewh. Bl-Ingliz, "They stood up to be counted". AND THEY WERE COUNTED!!!
Ghandhom ihossu r-rimos, min dahaq bil-poplu u welled dan il-gwaj pero' ghandhom ihossu ir-rimors izjed dawk li qaghdu izeffnu l-kuxjenza fin-nofs biex minghalihom jistahbew warajha imma fl-ahhar urewna xi jsarfu. Bijja DARBA DHAQTU, mhux ser tergghu!!!
simeon nechev
Jul 29th 2011, 14:56
U li mar kontra ir rieda tal poplu freferendum, lahwa ma ninsewx li gonzi gej min partit li fl '81 amel xenata shiha ax madditx ir rieda tal maggoranza...
guido cutajar
Jul 29th 2011, 16:54
Mill l-Indipendenza ghaddew kwazi 50 sena ( 1964 ) . Kien ghawn rebus shih fil pajjiz. Illum 50 sena wara insejna kollox x`kien gara, pero lil missier l-indipendenza, hadd ma insieh u min ma kienx ghadu twieled xorta jaf li kien Dr. Gorg Borg Olivier. Li ridt nghejd jien huwa, li meta gejjin ta warajna, ser jinsew it tahwid li kellna sa ma ghadda id divorzju, u meta ikollhom xi " assignment " fuq id divorzju zgur li ser jghejdu li taht il P.M. Gonzi konna meta dahal. Semmejt ir rimors, ghax naf cert li il P.M. ghex holma ( nightmare ) jara id divorzju jghaddi b`tant maggoranza kbira, barra li tlett kwarti min naha tal gvern ivvutaw kontrih ( Gonzi ). U xorta ghadni ma nistax nifhem kif tghaddi ligi minghajr il kunsens tal P.M. u jibqa hemm. @ Mark Galea...Min qalbi ser nghejdlek.. Ghal gid ta Malta ikun ahjar li il gvern nazzjonalista jibqa hames snin ohra, sabiex jirranga il krizi finazjarja li ghamel huwa stess. Li nixtieq li jinbiddlu xi ministri. Hbieb, jien qatt ma qbilt mad divorzju, imma qatt ma tista iccahhad id dritt lil haddiehor. Issa qeghed hemm, min iridu jiehdu u min ma iridux ihallih hemm. X`inhi il problema?
Mark J. Magri
Jul 29th 2011, 13:33
I have nothing against the President of Malta but for one.....he approved the law of divorce by signing it to be introduced in Malta in October.
If I were the president of this country I would rather step down from this appointment than to go against my personal Christian values by signing a law which ruins families and our economy as time goes by.
We wait and see..as time will tell!
GRANPINTO
Mario Grima
Jul 29th 2011, 14:07
That's why you are not a president because you mix religion, personal sentiments and duty together into one pot. In Maltese they call it 'kawlata' and when you are a president yoiu cannot afford a 'kawlata'
Mr Guido Farrugia
Jul 29th 2011, 14:15
Good thing you're not the President!!!!!!
David Caruana
Jul 29th 2011, 14:22
Time won't tell you anything! There is now way you can know how the situation would have been in 10 years' time if divorce was never introduced.
Please remember that Malta (without a divorce law) was following the exact same trends as other countries - marriage breakdown and cohabitation on the rise.
Cohabitation will surely increase in Malta, especially after the referendum saga when every Maltese citizen was given the right to vote on how YOU should lead your conjugal life.
Dr.Gonzi with his referndum stance made the younger generations even more disillusioned about marriage!
Brian Gatt
Jul 29th 2011, 15:02
so with the same reasoning the prime minister and the other MP's who voted against should also resign le !!!!
Mr Kurt Waschnig
Jul 29th 2011, 13:19
History has been written because President George Abela has signed the Divorce Bill.
I feel joy and the Maltese can be proud today.
Friday, July 29, 2011, should become a public holiday in Malta and this day should be celebrated.
The outcome of the referendum on divorce shows that Malta finally has become a secular country and a secular society and a reality loud and clear from the referendum result is that the Church’s word is no longer heeded.
The law is expected to become effective on October 1 that means that the Maltese will have the opportunity to decide to get divorced or not.
Even Catholics should be delighted that there will be a legal Divorce Bill which will be very helpful for human beings who have to live often under unbearable conditions within a marriage.
The Divorce Bill will enable lots of Maltese to get divorced to fall in love again to remarry and to start a new life and escaping insoluble and gruesome living conditions.
The debates and discussions showed that Malta is a stable and working democracy and democracy and reason has won against ideology.
I would like to express my gratitude to The Times of Malta for the excellent coverage of the referendum.
The Maltese can be proud today.
Best regards
Kurt Waschnig Oldenburg Germany
e-mail: chess2550@gmx.de
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 13:40
@ Kurt Wasching
Who's hidden hand is??
M. Mifsud
Jul 29th 2011, 16:30
Mr. Kurt Wasching Oldenburg,
I would greatly appreciate if you refrain from commenting on our internal affairs. I really don't like the way certain foreigners, who pretend to know it all and to teach us common ignorant and backward Maltese how to live and how to administer our country, does not understand a thing of our culture and our wayb of life and pretend to comment on our internal affairs. I really hate it. I don't comment on what goes on in Germany because I don't know exactly the frame of mind of the Germans and their culture and their way of life. So I would greatlyv appreciate it if foreigners such as yourself refrain from commenting on this delicate internal issue. You have really offended us by your comments.
Joseph Casha
Jul 29th 2011, 13:15
Why is it that the majority of comments here reflect to the size factor???? is that what marriage in your eyes is all about, looks???? is that why so many people have opposed divorce, size? or is it cause now they actually have to make an effort and work at their marriage?
j brincat
Jul 29th 2011, 12:44
@Mark Galea
You should actually pay JPO.
As regards payment of tax put your mind at rest as Dr Gonzi promised that he will cut income tax.
You can call it 'ONE of Gonzi's undelivered promises'. Any other fancy name that suits your requirement will also do!
(jb)
Could be called ONE of Gonzi's undelivered promises! Or any fancy name that suits your requirements.
Mark Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 13:49
@j brincat
if one divorces and has to pay maintenance, and marries another person, who is in his same situation, by some careful tactics they can stop paying maintenance and then do an amicable divorce ...
And we will pay Joe's TAX to the first spouse.
Ms Mandy Abela
Jul 29th 2011, 12:43
I have noticed many comments from Maltese men commenting about divorce because of the wife's weight gain. Says a lot about their mentality, doesn't it.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 13:23
you are right but since I am male I direct to the opposite sex , but really my comments to my wifes weight refers vice versa
With all apologies I am not a sexist but What I say from a male point of view, it really applies to all sexes.
I am fat too :) but she loves me fat :)
Vincent Farrugia
Jul 29th 2011, 12:42
eeee il-posizzjoni tigi qabel il-valuri. Hemm qawl li jieghd l-akbar ghorrief liktar li jizbaljaw.
Nathalie Frendo
Jul 29th 2011, 12:30
Thank you Mr. President. You truly are the people's voice.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:22
Sorry kids but mommy and daddy might have second thoughts, you see mommy has gained weight and is not very romantic , my secretary is more caring , she makes me coffee all the time winks at me and smiles at me more, she doesnt make me bring the washing down and she makes me the most delicious goodies for me. Dont you want me to be happy? I will still come and see you and dont worry I will save some money to pay for your tuition and exams. If you need anything try to catch me but dont call me after 9 pm I will not like to disturb her!
Daniel Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:36
right....and this will all start on October 1st?!
Ms Mandy Abela
Jul 29th 2011, 12:41
What a stupid and ridiculous comment. If people want to leave their spouse capriciously they don't need divorce to do it. You know, there areeople who have been through divorce - for serious and valid reasons. (As some people get annulments for other reasons.) You seem to be upset that the law has gone through. Maybe scared that your spouse will leave you because you have gained weight?
Nathalie Frendo
Jul 29th 2011, 12:43
Mr. Spiteri havent you gained weight? Or is it just the prerogative of women. Besides there is much more than a sexy body for a relationship to carry on. A woman can be sexy even if not a a s thin as a model. To begin with judging from our youngsters few are those men who are marrying a thin girl these days. Let us not be so superfiial.
Mr F J Brincat
Jul 29th 2011, 12:50
Yes, more or less it is what they tell the kids now anyway...don't forget that couples were still separating....
But you see, now mommy can tell daddy to flake off and both mommy and daddy can find happiness with someone else and marry if they so wish. Your daddy will go to the caring well-manicured hands of the secretary and your mommy can find a man who really respects her.
Raymond Sacco
Jul 29th 2011, 12:51
@john zammit spiteri:
and all these thoughts are haunting your mind just because a law was signed?!?!?!?!?! how pathetic!!!!!
Jeremy Gambin
Jul 29th 2011, 12:56
all these comments you are making have happened in Malta for many years and many people have separated for reasons like these- nothing to do with the introduction of divorce; At least Mommy has a second chance to get married to someone more decent.
Dawn Cummings
Jul 29th 2011, 12:57
...gotta feeling this was already happening with separation so far and won't change with the divorce law...so what's your point here John?
Ms D. Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 12:59
If your marriage is not based on love and respect but on frivolous thrings like weight, coffee, smiles and the washing, then I feel sorry for your and more for your wife.
Mr Daniel Vella
Jul 29th 2011, 13:01
And did you need divorce for this?!?!?!?!?!? You should say "At least mommy can now find a guy that really loves her and do away with such rubbish as i was"
Joseph Casha
Jul 29th 2011, 13:02
Sorry kids but mommy and daddy might have second thoughts, you see, daddy has been drinking a lot and he has also started hitting mommy and that is why mommy is full of bruisies and always in pain and sometimes has to go to the hospital. i would like to pretend everything is fine, but see mommy is scared that one of these days daddy might go over the edge and mommy will end up stabbed and lying in a pool of her own blood like that woman a few years back. so see this way at least you still get to have your mommy alive and not dead.......
Open your eyes. if people divorce for getting obese than the problem should have been not getting married in the first place cause love and family are not about appearances. and just because there is divorce it doesn't mean that people never cheated, separated or got their marriages annuled. once again, open your EYES!!!
Lawrence Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 13:02
Mr. Zammit-Spiteri,
Can you provide me with the telephone number of your secretary please?
Mr M Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 13:08
How very true. A picture of things to come !!
Christina Pace
Jul 29th 2011, 13:08
Hi kids! I have good news! Since daddy started hanging out with the wrong people, he also started gambling. Now that he lost his job he also started drinking and being violent. The other day I found a glass pipe in his pants. We tried and tried to talk it over. He won't listen and is only gonna keep digging a grave. But it doesn't have to be a family grave. Now we can leave and God willing if there is a one last suitable man out there he can become your dad and he will never abuse you or me.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 13:25
to all those obese ladies whom I might have offended, I am obese too and I risk being dumped too.
I really spoke in sympathy but what I said applies to all sexes.
So bring on those burgers!
Mr david debattista
Jul 29th 2011, 13:34
@ John Zammit Spiteri How prone poor humans like you are, to dam up the minutest remnants of freedom , and build an artificial roof to prevent humanity looking up to the clear blue sky . take a walk !
We are concerned with genuine situations here not some idiot who has embarked on the quest for the ultimate orgasm. If such is the case with you, good luck you will need it , others have other issues as their priority .
Michael Magri
Jul 29th 2011, 13:40
Sorry John... But are you and your likes for that matter, implying that your Fictitious story above, and such inventive suppositions, are going to apply to every family in Malta, Gozo, Commino and `Kemmunett`..??!!??!! Ofcourse NOT John.. Stop scaring the subject matter, i.e. Divorce Law, with such silly inventive SPINS..!! Il-Babaw is a subject Long Gone and FORGOTTEN my friend..
I can assure you all that nothing and no one is going to change or stop family quarrels etc. that Unfortunately, might lead to family seperations.. But at least those involved may now find another Legal way to continue with their seperate lives, as Legal Partners of husband and wife..
That`s All Folks...!!
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 13:52
Are you talking about a cohabiting man because this thing has been happening for years in Malta. it will not start now that divorce is obtainable. And the weight issue was brought up by the NO movement to ridicule the matter.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 14:08
ahhhh sad innit? but truth does hurt!!!
David Caruana
Jul 29th 2011, 14:54
Truth is truth.
What hurts is misinformation and deceit.
But people grew brains since you last checked, Mr.Zammit-Spiteri
Mark Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 12:20
And now for the next step - set up the DIVORCE TAX on all maltese taxpayers ... thank you Joe ... you managed to tax us from opposition - They should call it Joe's Tax.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:31
i am jealous at your comment
why didnt i think of it !!! grrrrrrrrrrr
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 12:48
@ Mark Galea,
Le Mark, fejn sejjer b'rasek!!!!!!
Dik hbewwa waqt il-kampanja tar-referendum. Pero' issa dalwaqt titfacca halli jkunu jistghu jiftahru li introducew "servizz socjali GDID". Heq!! kulhadd jaf kemm il-Progessivi jiftahru li intoducew is-servizzi socjali!!! Issa ser ikollhom opportunita' ohra biex izidu ohra mal-kullana ta' servizzi socjali!!!!
PERO' int u jien inhalsu ghalieh dan!!
Alex Cutajar
Jul 29th 2011, 13:07
I like how you look at the future, Maybe people may look at the future on election day.
How many taxes should be named as: 'Wenzu's Tax' or 'Eddie's'? May I ask?
Mark Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 13:47
And that is nothing ...
wait until the new families form legally and spouses refuse to pay maintenance? Will they be jailed? Obviously no. These people will flout maintenance law very easily - just to spite their first spouse. In the name of the new family they can take up loans (which would have been impossible before marrying second time). The intelligent thing is that this second marriage can just be a marriage of convenience. Two (already married) people decide to marry, contract debts, refuse to pay maintenance and then conveniently do an amicable divorce - they may be already with new partners, but just do it to avoid maintenance.
Mr david debattista
Jul 29th 2011, 14:08
That is how it is in the rest of the civilized world ! Good morning Sunshine .
John Zammit Spiteri You did not think about it because you are a poor boy . Not that it makes much sense or any difference really ! Come on get over it ! You should be more worried where we are going to get our drinking water in the near future then this issue .
Chris Giordano
Jul 29th 2011, 12:09
Malajr naghmluhom il-ligijiet fejn irridu ... anki minghajr ma jkunu fil-manifest elettorali!
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 13:45
@ Chris Giordano
Mhux malajr naghmluhom il-ligijiet fejn irridu, izda kemm tahraqna qalbna biex nahdmu sa tard fil-ghodu, sas-2.00a.m skond kif gie rrapurtat!!! Addio xoghol iehor privat, forzi ftuh ta' xi klinika jew ufficcju legali!!!
Ara kemm ghandna deputati biezlin!!!!!
U halluna ara ma tersqux biex titkarbu ghal vot!!!!
Carmel Grima
Jul 29th 2011, 12:07
Mela issa jmiss same sex marriage,ghandhom dritt civili,wara jekk ikollok marda terminali ghaliex ma tehlix id-dulur kollu u tiehu pillola u tehles, dan dritt ukoll. wara anke l-mara ghandha dritt iggorr dak li joghgobha u dak li ma tridx tidnaddaf minnu, kollha huma drittijiet tal-bniedem tafux.Dan kollu jezisti hawn MALTA. Hazin tillegallizzah ghax hemm isir l-abbuz. Issa nistennew r-rizultati ghax hawn Malta kulhadd jaf li jew nejja jew mahruqa. Ghandna bzonn partit tal-valuri biex nghozzuhom ghax minhabba wahdiet li mxew fejn riedu imponewna certi drittijiet civili foloz.
M Ellul
Jul 29th 2011, 13:26
Partit tal valuri? Liem valuri? Tieghek?
Le.
Mr Charles Bayliss
Jul 29th 2011, 14:54
Imma kemm hawn injoranza f'dan il-pajjiz. Kif tridu thalltu id-Drittjiet taghna l-Gay ma' l-abort jew l-ewtanasja. Taghna barra li hu dritt uman u mezz ta' celebrazzjoni ta' mhabba/hajja filwaqt li it-tnejn l-ohra huma mezz ta' qierda tal-hajja.
Jekk m'inthomx kapaci tiddistingwu bejn wiehd u t-tnejn l-ohra allura nghidilkom imsieken. Mohh maghluq. Jew papri ghax dan il-kliem qalu certu Ministru Demokristjan.
Matthew P. Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 12:05
Mill-1 t'Ottubru tibda l-battalja, il-hsieb li jtambar ul-weggha tal-qalb tal-individwu mieghu innifsu li jixtieq jissieheb f'relazzjoni ta' zwieg bit-tikketta fuq rasu li x'hin jasal il-waqt mhux maghruf jerga' jisfa wahdu minkejja li ma kienx hemm raguni ghalfejn iz-zwieg kellu jitkisser.
It-tfal cippitatu u mill-1 t'Ottubru nghidu li dan jista' jsir permezz tal-manteniment, li t-tfal ma jippreferuhx iktar mill-ghaqda tal-genituri taghhom, u bid-divorzju responsabbli, li tajnieh prijorita' fl-ewwel post.
Progress? Nawgura li ma jkunx gejjieni iebes dak li se nibdew naffaccjaw minn Ottubru li gej il-quddiem!!
E. Azzopardi
Jul 29th 2011, 12:19
Dak kollu li ghid diga ilu jigri, jekk vera irridu nkunu sincieri maghna infusna, u ma nkunux IPOKRITI. Id-differenza hi li issa ser ikun irregolat. Imma allavolja ma kienx hemm ghalfejn, bir-Referendum ikkonfermajna kemm hawn IPOKRITI jigri mas-saqajn f'dan il-pajjiz Kattoliku.
Matthew P. Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 13:24
@ E. Azzoppardi
Regolat?! Regolat sakemm irid il-but tal-avukat divozista! L-ipokrita hu min jghid li m'ghandux bzonn id-divorzju ghax dan juzah min ghandu bzonnu biss...bl-istess principju, jekk dil-persuna tigi bzonnu hi ukoll jaqa' l-argument li d-divorzju juzah min ghandu bzonnu biss, ghax il-bzonn ma tafx meta tigi bzonnu.
Ma noqghodux induru mal-lewza wisq. Din l-introduzzjoni ha twassal ghal tibdil fil-mentalita' tal-poplu ghall-mentalita' divorzista u fi ftit zmien ghandu jkollna l-konfermazzjoni ta' dan kollu.
Nittama li m'ghandix ragun, imma bhalma gara f'kull pajjiz iehor - jekk nitkellmu f'termini ta' taxxi, problemi socjali u nuqqas fl-istabilita' tal-familja - ghandna bizzejjed biex jaqqghu l-argumenti favur id-divorzju f'qasir zmien!
Mr Kyle Boffa
Jul 29th 2011, 13:34
int fejn tghix? jekk ghalik dal-affarijiet ha jibdew mill- 1 t'Ottubru.. iftah naqa ghajnejk.
Matthew P. Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 15:52
L-affarijiet ilhom li bdew...imma issa l-mentalitajiet issahhew u jekk jidhrilna li morna 'l quddiem j'Alla ghall-gid....
Il-problema jekk jibqa kollox f'wiccna sieheb.
Joseph Laus
Jul 29th 2011, 12:02
Dear Prime Minister Gonzi,with or without you the Divorce is now Confirmed...Thanks anyway
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 12:26
@ Joseph Laus
Dahhaqtna!!!!!
Mary Ann Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 12:28
Dear Joseph Laus...............with or without you (and surely without you) GONZIPN has snatched victory from MLP in 2008 and will again give you a hard time come 2013.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:29
for your info
he did his duty and brought forward the bill. If he really wanted to do without it would not have been brought to parliament. He is a gentleman a true statesman , a man of principle, and he has reputation for being a very strong person in favour to those in need , when it comes to social help.
How dare anyone insult a person who has done nothing wrong but only protected the family being the sound foundation of a healthy society.
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 12:40
@ Joseph Laus
But the way, Dear Joseph!! with the introduction of divorce, for Prime Minister Gonzi + Eleven Nationalists MPs and Dr Adrian Vassallo nothing has changed.
They stuck to their principle and showed the Maltese that at least there are 12 people (kif ighidu bil-Malta "Tuzzana") that they are trust worthy and deserve to be called "Onorevoli". The rest.........
Albert Ostimani
Jul 29th 2011, 12:56
@Mary Ann Borg Int bis-serjeta? Mela jiehu 500 zieda fil-gimgha, izid id-deficit, dahhal l-Arriva li zgur mhix "state-of-the-art", bena Mater Dei f'ghoxrin sena minflok f'ghaxar snin u hemm inqas sodod mill-isptar San Luqa, wahhal nofs it-toroq f'Malta ghax iddecieda li jirranga uhud minnhom li ghogbuh fi xhin ried meta kulhadd irid imur ghax-xoghol, se jhassar Birzebbuga bl-estenzjoni tal-Freeport, se jhassar l-ambjent taghna bl-estenzjoni tal-Power Station bil-Heavy Fuel Oil, il-gass ghadu l-Qajjenza u suppost ilu li telaq minn hemm snin shah, in-naha t'isfel ta' Malta (Birzebbuga, zejtun, marsaxlokk ecc) dizastru ghax qas jaghti kas, se jwaqqa l-Air Malta ghax issa fetah ghajnejh li kien hemm il-problemi...saqsi iktar hawn halli jsemmulek aktar affarjiet serji...
Dawn Cummings
Jul 29th 2011, 13:02
@Mary Ann: So you are voting for Gonzi PN again, being the biggest hipocrite after he granting himself a weekly €500 pay raise and THEN says his conscience does not allow him to vote in favor of the divorce bill?
Mr M Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 13:11
@ Joseph Laus
Well said.
No one will be able to condemn Gonzi for the state of our marriages and the ruin in our society in the future.
As you pointed out he had nothing to do with it !!
j brincat
Jul 29th 2011, 11:58
One pace nearer to secular Malta. More needs to be done though. Who will take the bull by the horn, this time round?
(jb)
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 11:52
No more married women over size 12.
The end is nigh...
Nathalie Frendo
Jul 29th 2011, 12:36
What does size have to do with marriage continuiity? May I remind you that there some of us women who have been married for over 25 years and still fit well into a size 10. Marriage does not mean letting go of oneself. After all a women still has a responsibility of taking care of her image this is also to keep her husband and children proud of her. So Patrick dear I think that size does not matter here!
Mr A Grech
Jul 29th 2011, 12:37
it would be better to have no married women under size 12 :P
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 16:49
Nathalie
Don't you remember that in the heat of the referendum public debate, a member of the "No" camp (Anna?) said that if divorce were to be introduced, husbands would divorce their wives if they are over size 12. It was not my invention.
Well done to you for keeping to size 10 after 25 married years. Few can boast of that...
Paul Abdilla
Jul 29th 2011, 11:51
Prosit Dr Pullicino Orlando & Deborah Schembri for everything .
The Maltese Nation should be forever grateful.
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:35
prosit to very sad kids whose parents run off with sexier spouses. wish it was you who will grow through that torture
then speak
Mr Ernest Vella
Jul 29th 2011, 12:37
ma tridx li naghtuhom ir-rikonixximent tar-Repubblika wkoll...sal-mewt ghandkom capcip u wara l-kastig.
adrian attard
Jul 29th 2011, 13:07
how emotional Paul... bikkejtni!
Mr M Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 13:14
Only time will tell us if these two deserve a " prosit ".
However if we had to follow the path taken by other countries I am afraid history will not be kind to them
Mr Alex Buds
Jul 29th 2011, 14:31
Ernest Vella: nobody can judge other people.
Maybe the future you portrayed for them is what you will get instead.
Lolita Lija
Jul 29th 2011, 11:48
It a memorable day for Malta,To the "YES" campaigners who gave so much of their time and dedication:
"Thank You"After this referendum a new chapter will begin to Malta.Remember all divorced and believer should not feel any less loved by God. God bless you all and THANK-YOU from the bottom of our hearts.
Mr Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 29th 2011, 11:48
In the present-day Malta, that now Divorce is on our statute books, would it be wise to get married at all, when the word “Commitment” has no longer any value at all?
Co-habitation is only the way forward; just wait and see!
Today, is an INFAMOUS date in the Maltese calendar when the institution of Marriage was declared DEAD!
Long live "Divorce"!
JC.
Mr F J Brincat
Jul 29th 2011, 12:06
Really? Is cohabitation the way forward?So, no more blithering about the rights of the children when a couple that is cohabitating has children? You're ok with that are you?
No, marriage is not dead and it will never be. If anything it has been given a new life.
Were you always such a drama queen?
Mr David Bezzina
Jul 29th 2011, 12:08
Co-habitation was the way forward even before divorce.
No one gets married in a state of mind that he or she will end up filing for the divorce in a few years.
How narrow-minded can you get ?
Raymond Sacco
Jul 29th 2011, 12:59
@joseph cauchi senior:
so am i right in saying that, according to you, the word commitment only has a value when accompanied with a signed contract?
Victor Pulis
Jul 29th 2011, 14:12
So as from 1st October no marriages will take place. We'll wait and see.
Carmel Serracino-inglott
Jul 29th 2011, 11:44
What a disaster!!!
Carmen Jos. Serracino Inglott
M. Bezzina
Jul 29th 2011, 11:55
Ser taqa id dinja ax dahal id divorce!!!!!!!
Kenneth Cassar
Jul 29th 2011, 11:57
Oh yes, the end is near! Give all your possessions to the poor...you'll be raptured soon.
Mr Charles Bayliss
Jul 29th 2011, 12:02
If you are married and your marriage is strong - you do not need to worry as it is not a disaster at all for you. JUSTICE IS BEING SERVED.
Carmel Bayliss (568760(M))
Mr F J Brincat
Jul 29th 2011, 12:11
Oh my goodness! It is a catastrophe of cataclysmic proportions! So, when are you divorcing then?
Lolita Lija
Jul 29th 2011, 12:18
Carm hi ,GEJJIEN IT-TLETT IJIEM TAD-DALM.LOL
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:25
@ carmel bayliss
I would plan well any relationship I get into. I feel responsible for my kids and if you know what marriage really means , it really means that your life is given totally to the other person and your children. Married couples give up their lives for the ones they love. It is useless trying to excuse your mistakes and trying to make us feel sorry for you . Eat your own mess. Carefull planning brings about serenity. Marriage is about love and sacrifice not adventure!
Alex Cutajar
Jul 29th 2011, 13:10
Us and the Philippines should have the best society till 1st October..
LOL
Mr Joseph Cauchi Senior
Jul 29th 2011, 11:27
Is it a memorable BLACK DAY for Malta?
JC.
Lawrence Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 11:33
Only if you are wearing very dark glasses which do not allow you to see the truth for what it is.
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 29th 2011, 11:43
It is a memorable day for democracy aginst extreemists
Ray Gatt
Jul 29th 2011, 11:45
May be a BLACK DAY for you but not for me who needs it. After all you don't have to use it. Now I suggest you get over it as it's there to stay.
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 11:53
agree.
Matthew P. Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 12:08
I just hope for a better country now that divorce has been introduced...I'm sure will have an answer in a couple of years time.
Will it be a positive outcome? Absolutely, No high hopes for that!!
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 12:30
Yes, it is!!
Let's everyone change his ID card to an address somewhere in the tenth district!!!!!! because the time for reckoning is approaching.
Mr Kyle Boffa
Jul 29th 2011, 13:32
le.. ibqa rraguna hekk ha timxi l quddiem
Lawrence Zammit
Jul 29th 2011, 11:21
For the attention of Joe Zammit:
Notwithstanding your fundamentalist preachings, the war between good and evil (as you used to call it)is finally over and good has prevailed.
Let this outcome be a lesson to you.
Mr D Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 13:06
Ftakar waħda ħabib: MAJORITY IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 13:52
@ Mr D Galea
Not "MAJORITY IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!" , what majority!!!
Labour sympathisers who contributed to this majority, in this consultative referendum were they prepared to vote PN had the PN introduced the question of divorce in its electoral manifesto???
Mr Charles Falzon
Jul 29th 2011, 11:16
Now that the divorce issue is over, any volunteers from our group of parliamentarians to introduce some kind of law to get politicians accountable for their deeds and misdeeds - not this meaningless 'political responsibility' they conveniently talk about please, or shall they remain above the law. We now have a precedent of what a single parliamtarian with guts can achieve. Thumbs up for another go!
Mr Henry Mifsud
Jul 29th 2011, 11:13
This is a very sad day for our PM, some Ministers, some MPs, The Church, and the minority of the electorate. Now they all feel betrayed also by the President of the Republic. According to their conscience, he should have not listened to the majority and signed the bill.
Prosit Mr. President for respecting the will of the people and whilst we are at it, I strongly urge you to also start the process of amending our Constitution to a REAL Republican one. As it stands, and especially in view of Article 2 in the first chapter, I still have serious doubts whether the law just being enacted about divorce is anti-constitutional or not.
Mr F J Brincat
Jul 29th 2011, 11:49
So, when are you going to divorce then Mr Mifsud? You make it sound like you are going to be dragged to the lawyers' office and made to sign off half of your life savingst...so...when is it going to be?
Philip Hili
Jul 29th 2011, 12:14
@ Mr Henry Mifsud
Is the Constitutional Court functioning??
I think that you remember that there were times when this court was not functioning during the dark days of the socialist regime!!
Nobody has the guts to challenge this law due to the fact of Article 2 Chapter 1 speaks for itself ?
Mr. President, it is not the divorce law that it is questionable, but the way this law is going to be entranced.
Will it not be more proper to consult both parties so that they reach an agreement in order to amend the Constitution and them entrance the divorce bill? Or are you going to do the other way round, first you entrance the law and then seek consultations with the parties concerned?
Sorry for my humble opinion but as things stands, I think that there is something wrong at this point in time!
Mr Henry Mifsud
Jul 29th 2011, 15:30
@ FJ Brincat. Normally I ignore such arrogant questions but in your case I won't. From what you wrote it is quite evident that you are well experienced perhaps because you have already been had and are paying dearly for the consequences. For your information I have been happily married for the past 34 years and hopefully I shall keep to my word up to the day I die. But God forbid should for any reason I would have to resort to divorce, rest assured that finances would be the least of my worries. Now back to business i.e. mind your own business.
@ Philip Hili. Your humble opinion speaks volumes and in a way you are agreeing to what I've stated. The only exception is that I can hardly see your suggestion taking shape as long as Gonzi & Co are still around. It might conflict with their conscience!
Philip Hili
Jul 30th 2011, 00:55
@ Henry Mifsud
Yes I agree with what you have said as regards to Article 2 chapter 1.
Sometimes I am at a loss and I must say that you are right in your conclusion!!
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 11:09
how lovely
we should organise a huge party welcoming this new wonderful way how to start marrying without ever worrying about that dreadful knot.
I hope I will manage to surpass elizabeth taylor If i am not mistaken she made it through six of them!
I will lean on the state for social security! I will receive cheques to help my kids from the various marriages! How wonderful, stay single and pay more! the political parties will increase social benefits for sure , they need my vote!
I will party tonight! Date galore and I can divorce as I find that he or she is less attractive then the one next door!
Another step towards being more european then europeans!
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 29th 2011, 11:44
very funny
Mr Erin Ciantar
Jul 29th 2011, 12:04
Not exactly more European. In fact just like all the other European states. Actually make that global states. (Barring one fanatically religious state who are also discussing the introduction of divorce)
Mr Charles Falzon
Jul 29th 2011, 12:23
Mr John Zammit-Spiteri......cause we are still waiting for Austin Gatt's party....forsi flok il party li kellu jamel jekk ma jaddix id divorzju jghamel wiehed tas success tal Arriva forsi!!!!!
Marcus Vella Bardon
Jul 29th 2011, 10:54
kemm kummidji ,all good as for provision for the care of the childlren ,but to be separated for 4 of the previous 5 years before being eligible for a divorce sounds like a load of crap.
just get one overseas should one want a divorce !
Ms C. Dimech
Jul 29th 2011, 11:02
your comment shows an extreme lack of respect for all those who voted for or against and for the whole process that the country went through.
Kenneth Cassar
Jul 29th 2011, 11:13
"just get one overseas should one want a divorce !".
And what makes you think it would be quicker that way?
joe Grima
Jul 29th 2011, 10:52
thumbs up :) finally
Carlos Espinal
Jul 29th 2011, 11:18
Wooohooo!!!! next stop! GAY MARRIAGE!
hahahaah
Kenneth Cassar
Jul 29th 2011, 11:59
@ Carlos Espinal:
Why not?
Mr David Buttigieg
Jul 29th 2011, 10:43
Now can we not hear anything more on divorce and get on with our lives?
joe Grima
Jul 29th 2011, 10:57
exactly !!
aldo Attard
Jul 29th 2011, 11:08
Arriva, Arriva; do not forget.
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 29th 2011, 11:09
The circus has only just started.
Mark Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 11:13
Mr Buttigieg ... the effects of divorce are considerable ... such an impact on society is very large indeed ... so I would not think it is fair for those who opposed it /agree with it to shut up now (do not forget that a large minority voted against).
Divorce law has been enacted today so you should be happy. But those who oppose/agree with it always have the right to dicuss it further ... in the future it may need changing, adjusting or even, who knows, removal if nobody marries any more.
Ray Gatt
Jul 29th 2011, 11:47
@ Mark Galea - those who opposed it don't have to use it. Punto e basta.
Mr Anthony Pace Gouder
Jul 29th 2011, 12:00
@Mark Galea Since the outcome of the Divorce Result , I have had the chance to meet old friends and family relatives etc. whom I found mostly had voted against . Mainly the Reason given was because of their Religious belief !!!!!!!!!!
John Zammit-Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 13:17
@ a pace gouder
I voted against it not from a religious point of view, but from a social point of view! Church's social teachings walk hand in hand with society needs. From day one some clever ones tried to picture divorce as a means to weaken the church and to free us from its net!!! There was never any net, there was only protection. This has absolutely nothing to do with the church. Those who are faithfull to the church and its religious teachings will continue to do so , but those who have no respect to human welfare will start taking advantage of this new expiry by date marriage and lets get on with the next wedding! This is a disaster day for Malta considering that Malta ranks as lowest of the low where it comes to social values.
This will bring about a chain of events and I wish to hear anyone complain that taxes have increased and crime is on the rise! These will increase not thanks to people like me , but thanks to people who felt we are ready to join all the states who at least were prepared. Never in the history of our polical laws has a law been passes so swiftly.
The Family has been dealth a blow and this brings pain and more. This Divorce mess has nothing to do with religion, only with commitment and responsibilities and carefull planning. Thanks to ignorance and selfishness we are going to be burdenend more with taxes which we dont need.