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Up to 180 Arriva drivers did not report for work this week

Some feeder routes being temporarily sub-contracted

Up to 180 drivers did not report for work with Arriva last week, the company said in its latest update.

More than half of them, it said, were from the old regime.

Arriva Malta managing director Keith Bastow thanked the drivers who worked hard and went well beyond their call of duty over the past week and promised that Arriva was adamant to fix the problem.

"We started operating services a week ago with the huge challenge of being without a considerable number of the drivers who were due to help us provide public transport services.

"That a significant number of people who signed contracts didn't honour their commitments hit us hard...

"We were then, and are now, far from where we would want to be, and from where the client body, Transport Malta, and our customers would want us to be."

However, he said Arriva was determined to deliver the public transport system that the people of Malta deserved and "we will not give up or lose heart at this bad start."

Services, he said, had again improved today with more frequent travel opportunities for passengers. However, there were localised issues which still needed fixing.

"We have continued to put significant resource and effort into transporting passengers around the island, and are now concentrating on building the consistent regular, sustainable service that passengers need to be able to depend on.

"To help us do this, we have drafted support from around the Arriva group to bring in additional specific transport expertise and to take the pressure off staff who have this week worked around the clock, above and beyond the call of duty.

"More than 40 support staff, supervisors and management are supporting our team," he said.

Mr Bastow said that more than 70 temporary drivers from the UK had now been drafted and a recruitment drive in Malta was continuing.

By tomorrow, more than 50 British drivers will be on the road, with a further 20 entering service early next week.

These drivers were trained on the specific routes they will be working on.

"We have also continued to recruit and train additional drivers in Malta, which we would have been doing anyway to provide holiday cover for later in the year.

"We currently have 54 Maltese drivers in training and are actively recruiting more."

Mr Bastow said that to address issues with services in more remote areas with lower passenger numbers, the company was temporarily sub-contracting some of the routes with the consent of Transport Malta. Vehicles on these routes would clearly display an Arriva logo and route number.

"From management down to drivers, we are taking action, and are determined to fix this.

"Apologies to those who have been affected this week – we are putting as much resource, expertise and effort as we can into making sure that a better service is provided for you next week.

"Thank you to the public for their feedback and for their support.

"We will work with you to give you the better bus services that would back-up the good customer service you are telling us you have had from our drivers.

"To the drivers who have come in this week, worked their hearts out and really risen to the occasion, I would like to say a big thank you. I am very proud of the feedback you have generated," he said.

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Jonathan Scerri

Jul 11th 2011, 07:58

You just couldn't explain this better.
I even heard a work colleague saying the "they should put them in jail". I pity this kind of employee attitude.

Joseph Grech Attard

Jul 11th 2011, 09:05

How very true. I cannot understand why these same people that are reasoning as such today did not reason as such in 1977 during the doctors' strike!! It is exactly the same situation. What is this called? Hypocrisy? NOOOOOOOOO!!

G Hoare

Jul 10th 2011, 13:00

YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT MY MOUTH,AGREE WITH YOU 110%

Mr Joe Micallef

Jul 10th 2011, 15:39

Mr Briffa I am annoyed as much as you about the cynic comments of many bloggers - the level of frustration turns to despair because of some idiotic blog posts by bloggers "tal-erba soldi" who believe they are god's gift to humanity or those by some Aesop's foxes.

However the former type of cynicism is a manner that we Maltese adopt to kick ourselves in the butt and eventually, by hook or by crook get things done! Even the Times of Malta itself, when it floundered a relatively simple transfer of printing press by a few kilometres and in the process was very unpunctual in the delivery of its papers, I vividly remember its editors kicking themselves really hard in public. Eventually they sorted themselves out!

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 10th 2011, 18:17

It is not the fault of the drivers, many people do not have even a bus to Valletta or to the centre of the villages, do you really expect elderly people, pregnant ladies with young children and others who cannot walk long distances to walk for 20 minutes in the heat to get to the Terminus to get on a bus when before a Bus would at least be within less than a few minutes walk. I live in the North and really do not complain much, but my mother lives in Marsascala and she is now very upset because she cannot even get to mass evey day like she used to because the Transport Minister took away the bus service from her area near the Old Jerma Hotel, there are Bus shelters in triq is Salini which have no Arriva stops and one of them is right near the Council. Maybe the Marsascala Council can wake up from it's summer nap and defend the needs of the people who need a decent bus service.

John Spiteri

Jul 10th 2011, 23:09

As long as its change for the better. The new routes take to long. It took me 3 hours to get to work instead of 1 hour.

Mrs Maria Rosaria Brincat

Jul 10th 2011, 16:12

Jahasra taf li qabistli demgha meta qrajt li l bus drivers li kellna dawk li l hin kollu jidghaw b Alla u bil madonna minflok jiringrazjawhom talli jwasluhom qawwijin u shah kienu jqumu kmieni biex ijwasluna, ikelmuna hazin, jisirquna, idoqqu r radiu jajat, jirispondu l mob, jitilqu mil venda x hin irridu u x hin jogobhom u Alla jhares tkellimhom, karozzi mahmugin u mkisrin, shana tremenda fuqhom, ikunu se jwaqqawk meta titla u meta tinzel ghax lanqas jatuk cans toqghod bil qeda. Hallina nghejxu trid.

Fran Abela

Jul 10th 2011, 09:35

Mr. Fenech - I never understood, nor did I agree, to the fact that bus drivers worked till 11 p.m. Surely their Union must have said something about this or were they happy to work all those hours to get a day off the next day for their other part-time work or pastime ? No wonder they were grumpy with passengers - how can you work all those hours without getting tired. Why did you accept to work all those hours in the first place ? As for not seeing their families all day long, there are other people in various sectors who work so hard (be it their choice or not) who do not see their familieis all day long, so what is new ?

Ms Lucia Davies

Jul 10th 2011, 10:22

DID they admire the deadly smoke they left behind them as well, people leaving in Floriana hamrun marsa area can tell how deadly they were as they have the highest rate of cancer,, also now you can drive behind a bus without having to close your windows to avoid the black smoke entering your car. Arriva is having problems any big change is bound to have them,, but must admit this seems to me like it was planned by the drivers

Mrs Maria Rosaria Brincat

Jul 10th 2011, 16:17

Mr Scerri darba ohra hu in number u l hin tal bus u iraporta l ingieba ta din l persuna halli forsi xi darba dawn l affarijiet jinqataw min pajizna.

Mario Hammett

Jul 10th 2011, 11:18

Well said.

Michael Lloyd

Jul 10th 2011, 11:47

According to published figures, the King Long buses averaged out at around 79,000 euros each. The Mercedes articulated buses are second-hand ex-London and their book value now is well under a quarter of a million euros.

You are quite right about the responsibilities of the drivers, but remember that many of the "old" buses were also the same size as the King Longs and some were built by King Long, so there is really not that much difference in size for the drivers who handled the King Longs, Volvos, Solaris, MCII and low-floor Scarnif buses. They too had great responsibility, and they had to pay for their own repairs, too, which the new drivers will not as Arriva or their insurers will pay.

Michael Lloyd

Jul 10th 2011, 11:56

They don't get much of a break in the UK. It's not uncommon to see one pour a drink from a flask at the terminus between unloading and loading up again. Arriva like their pound of flesh, but so do the other major operators. Nowadays it seems the actual workers can be treated like dirt, why do they need food, drink or toilet stops?

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 10th 2011, 18:11

It is true Sam Brown, yesterday i tried to visit my elderly mother who lives near Jerma Hotel, i got a lift to Valletta, but to get to Marsascala was a nightmare with the delays, to add insult to injury the Bus 91 dropped us off at the Terminus near Grabiels and i had to walk along the promenade in the sun to get to my mother's house. My mother also used to get the Bus no 17 or 19 or 20 to go to Mass every morning, now she cannot even get to church as it is too far away to walk for a 78 year old lady. This mess needs to be seen to quickly, what is the Marsascala Council doing about this routes disaster in this area? they are quiet or maybe they knowingly accepted the route as not going into the Siberia / St Thomas bay areas? Maybe an enterptrising private contracter can start a new service to and from Valletta - Marsascala , it seems the minivans also do not operate to the area.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 10th 2011, 18:04

Prosit - well said. Ezatt, people do not want a tour around Malta but a fast service.

Michael Lloyd

Jul 10th 2011, 12:02

Spot on. Its funny, isn't it, that all those horrible, rude, ill-dressed drivers, talking on their phones, eating their dinner, etc., etc., all knew every bus route on the island. Now the smart new professionals can't find their way from one place to another. Progress is a wonderful thing...

Mr Tony Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 21:26

If Arriva do throw in the towel, I'm willing to bet no other international transport company will touch Malta with a barge-pole.
It'll be back to the karozzin!

Roy Schembri

Jul 9th 2011, 21:36

That's fair comment. Arriva apologists on here give the impression that the contract was thrust upon them! Not so, they studied the contract, complete with bus routes, costed it and tendered for it. So they were fully aware of what they were doing. They then had plenty time to prepare. They used this by boasting how they would transform travel here after 3 July. Various publicity stunts were staged and elaborate promises made.

At the eleventh hour they gave out pieces of paper changing the conditions of drivers. Some drivers didn't like it and walked away. As some on here have said, an employer is within his rights to change a contract. Quite true ! But equally if an employer changes a contract at the very last minute (the day before the employee works) then that employer risks the employee saying 'No! I can't work these new hours' So Arriva can't cry over milk they themselves have spilt !

Arriva surely didn't need to the very last minute to decide they had to change shifts to split shifts ! Surely some degree of planning and costing had went on ? Indeed it must have as they had printed the timetables - so were these timetables based on 8 hour shifts or split shifts? If split shifts then why didn't they inform the drivers earlier - at the time they completed the timetables ! Aha ! as we uncover things it is perhaps not the drivers who are the devils here but Arriva themselves !

Markus Behmann

Jul 9th 2011, 22:09

Hello Mr Alfour, I think you don't understand anything at all.

1. They employed enough drivers, but if 180 of them didn't bother to show up for work this week, it is obvious that Arriva cannot maintain the level of service they were supposed to. So you should better blame those lazy drivers who didn't want to work.

2. Of course Arriva is here to make a profit, everything else would liable to prosecution for a manager in a profit making organisation. Nevertheless, even though Arriva is here to make a profit, we have lower costs than with the old system, cleaner streets, more security for commuters and a better level of service in general, e.g. friendly drivers.

3. You complain already about busses without air-conditioning? Well, how many of the old busses had air-conditioning? Exactly, ZERO!

4. You mention tensions between foreign drivers who get a higher payment with Maltese drivers who operate at a lower payment? Then you should not forget, that those other countries have a much higher price level than Malta, so in fact the payment is pretty even. And if those drivers don't like the domestic working conditions, then they are free to migrate anywhere they want within the EU and work for another bus company.


In fact, anything else than the former bus system is an improvement because the old bus service was most probably the worst in Europe! We should give Arriva some time to improve the service.

Alex Antignolo

Jul 9th 2011, 22:55

BRAVO
I fully agree with your thesis.

Mr Charles.C. Brown

Jul 9th 2011, 23:47

AGREE 101% Its obvious that spanish , portugeses(whoses never been enployed on this island since the days of the knights, and british managment and of course forigein drivers are going to add more to the confussion. the british saying " too many cooks spoil the broth"

Hugh Morris

Jul 10th 2011, 01:01

Good grief what alot of negativity!
You must be a very unhappy person. Give Arriva a break - It is now becoming clear that this was a boycott from the old bus drivers, who used to make tens of thousands of euros a year by giving an absolutely deplorable bus (dis)service. That combined with the expected teething problems clearly impacted the Arriva service - But from the way they are tackling things, the intent to succeed is there and once these issues are ironed out, we will have a bus service like never before.

Charles Abela

Jul 10th 2011, 08:04

'and how do the indigenous drivers feel knowing their English compatriots are being paid a lot more? "

yes ...so are the fares paid by their commuters.

Fran Abela

Jul 10th 2011, 08:55

The government can only step in if Arriva is not adhering to the terms of the contract signed with it. Remember it is a private company and has to manage the operations itself.

Mr Joseph Grima

Jul 10th 2011, 08:58

Step in or step down?

Michael Lloyd

Jul 10th 2011, 12:09

Mr Alfour is perfectly correct, Arriva knew exactly what they were taking on with this contract. I was in Malta in December 2009 talking to some people at the Valletta terminus. One of them told me about a "spy" (a consultant, in fact) employed by Arriva who was, even back then, carefully observing the island, the passengers, the bus routes, etc. Arriva cannot possibly claim that they "never knew" things would turn out like this. In other countries where Arriva operate, there are alternatives - other bus companies, trains, maybe trams. On Malta there is nothing except costly taxis or slow karrozin. They are obliged to get it right or get out. Anything else is monstrously unfair to the residents of Malta who depend on the bus service.

Roy Schembri

Jul 9th 2011, 21:24

It was claimed by Dr J Muscat that 100,000 euros was the compensation likely to be paid to Arriva by Malta. The Government have refused to give or confirm this figure which will be met by the taxpayer.

Drs Gatt and Gonzi ought to have been pursuing Arriva for penalties over their monstrous failures this week in the same determined and inflexible way that Arriva pursued them over Bisazza Street! But all they have done is acted as Arriva's dummy and waved fingers of blame at 'scores of drivers' who remain unknown. It appears from what we've seen this week that this contract is the tail wagging the dog, the Government does not have the wherewith to stand up to Arriva and show they're in charge. Indeed they've sat back silent and watched large numbers of foreign workers enter this country at the order of a bus company from Sunderland. It makes one wonder - is the Government still here or have they already vacated !

Only Dr Muscat so far has shown genuine interest in taxpayers money by coming out and publicly speaking on compensation matters.

Mr charles vella

Jul 9th 2011, 21:14

Those side signes are very misleading and should be removed immedgiatly!

Gary Jameson

Jul 9th 2011, 21:26

I can beat that Robert. Last Wednesday, I saw a 112 bus with 'Dongsheng' on its front monitor. Clearly, Arriva have plans for Malta - China routes !

Mr Tony Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 21:28

Maybe the driver couldn't read.

Anthony Pace

Jul 9th 2011, 22:04

By immaculate conception it was born overnight the moment Non-arriva took over.

Alex Bugeja

Jul 10th 2011, 05:41

Good one this!!

Charles Zammit

Jul 10th 2011, 08:09

Yes, it is connected to Tigne Point tunnel because I saw that same bus by the Fortina Hotel

Mr Anthony Borg

Jul 10th 2011, 08:16

I noticed that display too last Thursday on a bus arriving at Mater Dei

D. Armeni

Jul 9th 2011, 21:05

I perfectly agree with you. I saw an Arriva bus which stopped in the middle of the street yesterday in Hamrun, the bus does not even go in this particular area. The driver was buying some chicken pieces. Where are the cameras on the bus to check the drivers and the bus itself? We will soon go back to the old system...

James Camilleri

Jul 10th 2011, 00:26

I agree wholeheartedly with what you said except for one thing. You said that you did not make use of our public transport "due to the Tird World Country service delivered." As a daily commuter I assure the service was definitely an efficient one. All the change that was needed was cosmetic rather than infrastructural. We needed more new buses to replace those few of the old ones which were still being used. We also needed more training for our bus drivers to be more customer-oriented. Most of them were but few weren't. However as to the rest bus left relatively on time, trips were not overlong and they got you from the point of your depature to the point of your destination. Now apart from the "nice" drivers (who will soon start to lose their cool) and the new buses (which we had been assured would be clean but already aren't) we have no service at all.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 22:56

Claire Busuttil vain hope. NON-Arriva-L will never get going.
They will throw in the towel.
Just wait and see.

CHARLO' SAMMUT

Jul 10th 2011, 00:06

you can't say it better !!!!!

James Camilleri

Jul 10th 2011, 00:45

Pleaaaaaaaaaaaase Arriva hold on tight because our patience unlike this lackey's colonial comment above, the rest of us are losing it.

Mr David Willow

Jul 10th 2011, 07:48

oh i so agree with you claire

Mr Graham Holme

Jul 9th 2011, 23:38

Well said Geoff,it is not the drivers fault,who are setting an exemplary standard,under what can only be described as "Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians"syndrome

Michael Lloyd

Jul 10th 2011, 12:17

Mr Holme, that is the British way these days - management, management, more management, senior management, and oh look, there's an actual worker - just the one, of course. We suffer from far too many chiefs and hardly any Indians, and now Malta is having the same problem. Glad I am not there at present!

Mr charles vella

Jul 9th 2011, 21:21

The service is bad, but will get better soon! Thank god we got rid of the old bus drivers who where rude and who thought that they where gods! Arriva needs to get their act together and re do the routes or get back to the old routes! My friend, stop being such a drama queen!

James Dewar

Jul 9th 2011, 20:41

Oh really !! If you are referring to the saviours in the form of the "temporary" drivers and ancillary staff drafted in to assist in this monstrous cock up then you are sadly misguided. No matter how competent or efficient they may be they will not be able to rectify the total and utter chaos created by your "other boys", the Arriva management! How much do you know about the background and the ongoing situation? Have you experienced either the old regime or the new "fantastic service" (Arriva's words, not mine!) Have you spoken directly to anybody directly involved? The situation will only be resolved when "your boys" start listening to their paying maltese customers who, despite your assertions, clearly know very well what is needed. Had they been involved in the consultation process from the outset perhaps the situation would not be so grave one week on from the showpiece Arriva launch.

Mr M Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 20:46

Who are the boys and who are the chaps ??

With " boys " are referring to the Maltese drivers who are doing their very best in this stupid situation ?

When you say " chaps " are referring to Arriva , by any chance ?? As things stand your boys are not delivering !!

Anthony Pace

Jul 9th 2011, 22:08

You are strike breakers. Sons of Maggie Tatcher!!!!

Joseph Galea

Jul 9th 2011, 23:49

Totally Agree With Mr M Borg. Without taking any sides. Noone should blame Arriva, they are trying their best and at least they apologised and acknowledge that the service fell short - something that we Maltese would never have done...

Why blame Arriva (a foreigner) when it looks like Transport Malta who is the body responsable of which apparently left everything to Arriva to fend for themselves.

Also, the bus drivers that left, what can one expect if so many did not show for work. Its obvious that havoc would prevail in such case.

Moreover, Arriva is in Malta becuase we maltese (or those who rapresent us) decided so - its not Arriva's faulth even if they are bad, because we chose them!

Anyways, common sense would say that before Blaming Arriva, the bus drivers issue should be sorted. And only if their service is still bad after this, we can freely and correctly blame Arriva!

Something about Arriva:

"Arriva plc is a multinational public transport company owned by Deutsche Bahn and headquartered in Sunderland, United Kingdom. It has bus and/or rail operations in the Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom."


They are such a large company, how can anyone think that Arriva are so bad. In fact, they are bad because we maltese are making them bad! dejjem irridu naqaw ghac cajt, laqqas kuntrat ma nafu inzommu!

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 9th 2011, 20:58

No Mr Zammit - Arriva's currency of choice is verbosity. We get the apologies, the drivers get the thank yous. Arrive keeps the money.

Mr David Willow

Jul 10th 2011, 07:51

you are havjng a laugh arent you - so you only wanted new buses for comfort - what about the total lack of respect towards paying customers. the drivers robbing antics, the abuse thrown at people bith physical and mental.

Mr John J Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 20:11

not very so......arriva is giving a misery of an X sum per week....who accepts it will drive the bus!!! those who didnt show up fired themselves automatically!!! they sure had better $$$$$$ things to do!!!!

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 22:58

Karl Gambin right. You can start by firing the management.

Mr David Willow

Jul 10th 2011, 07:52

too right Karl

Philip Hili

Jul 9th 2011, 19:55

@ Maruska Agius

Everything was planned.

That's why Joseph & Co. did not make too much trouble prior to the 3rd July 2011, to keep a low profile in order to make everybody believe them that the drivers from the old regime accepted a job with Arriva.

Fire them and blacklist them from any future work with the company.

The only mistake Arrive did is to employ rude, uneducated and careless drivers from the old regime when one knew what their attitude was towards the public prior to the 3rd July 2011

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 9th 2011, 21:13

But of course Mr Hili. Of course this mess is all the fault of Joseph Muscat. How stupid of me not to realise this before. And there I was thinking it was all a case of mismanagement and lack of preparation and ill advised routes when in fact it was all a heinous plan excogitated by those awful reds in their glass house.

Took you some time to spit it out didn't it Mr Hili - you could have taken me out of my misery sooner.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:00

Philip Hili the fault is on the management side and not on the drivers side. Stop blaming the drivers and point the blame where it really is. Incompetent management.

James Camilleri

Jul 10th 2011, 00:43

@Philip Hili
Classist mentality. All drivers were rude; all drivers were uneducated; all drivers were careless. I can see them at the corner village bar calpping their hands in glee at the mayhem they have caused - down to the It system as well I guess; down to the already breaking down of the new buses. Well well Maltese bus drivers are really brilliant then. With their rudeness, ignorance and carelessness they gave us a service; which no is non-existent. What do you work as Mr Hili?

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 19:31

Colonial mentality? Give it up already! This is a business and colonialism has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Mr Chris Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 19:52

Colonial Mentality? I suspect that it is the likes of Mr Sciberras who have a colonial mentality. Arriva has only one mentality, that of a private company, and that mentality translates into spend as little as possible (just enough drivers, just enough buses, pack 'em in, and pay drivers little) and make as much money as possible (raise your ticket prices whilst making trips less efficient and longer, get government to pay for the smallest excuse - Bisazza Street, anyone?). This to me smells very much like a 'Maltese' mentality! One would almost suspect that they learnt their lessons from the Maltese bus owners, who have been fleecing commuters and government for decades now! :)

Mr Tony Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 19:58

Mr. Sciberras
By 'Colonial' I presume efficient, which won't do in Malta. These people run buses and trains efficiently in my part of England.. My take on this is the'old' drivers are hoping Arriva will go away, they get their old routes back and get to keep the money they were given.
Some hopes!

Philip Hili

Jul 9th 2011, 19:59

It 's not the case of wrong mentality. It is a case of discipline, because they (the regime's drivers wanted to keep on take the Maltese people for a ride!!!!!!!

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:01

Wilfred Camilleri yes it is the colonial mentality that they know best and we know nothing.
Now this is the mess that we have in the public transport.

Mr David Willow

Jul 10th 2011, 07:54

well said mr chris gatt...couldnt agree more

Mr Mario P. Sciberras

Jul 10th 2011, 09:51

By "colonial" mentality I meant that they think that they know best and that the "natives" are useless backward people.

The following are a few comments from Derby: "The Arriva bus service has always struggled to meet its own timetables and if it was subject to the same regulations as the rail companies it would have been out of business years ", "Then you have the passenger perspective. If you rely on public transport to get you into and out of Derby during peak times then you could well be waiting long enough to book a fortnight's holiday, which you'll need if you regularly have to survive waiting for a bus", ".......Notice again, there's no mention of reliability, punctuality, convenience or driver safety standards and this excercise will prove a complete waste of time and do nothing to convince more people to wait for a bus that may, or may, not turn up".
This comment is from Shropshire "What is wrong with the Arriva drivers on the 55 route? As I again waited over 35 minutes (timetable says every 15 minutes), "
Comment for the Shropshire correspondent " We pray for a service like yours mate. You never had it so good"
Arriva get proper managers to manage.

angelo cilia

Jul 9th 2011, 19:29

Why? because it was done under the watch of the PN.
It is sabotage by nasty people who still live in the 1970s in the era of Tower Tea monopoly.

Mr M Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 19:50

@ Fran Abela

You can be sure that I have nothing against Arriva or the government , why should I ?

However although I appreciate what Arriva is doing,to try to better the service, until the routes are revised the chaos we are experiencing will remain the same.

Someone must admit, Arriva or Transport Malta that the routes are way too long and that they must be changed as quickly as possible.

What made them add Mater Dei and University to the Sliema Bus ?? Why do we have to go round and round before getting to our destination?? Why do we have to use interchanges on an island the size of Malta ??

JOSEPH mercieca

Jul 9th 2011, 19:54

Fran it s because of our political obsession there are some people who would love for this new service to fail ,we are still at war with each other only a bit more subtle.

Alistor Aguis

Jul 9th 2011, 19:59

@angelo oh please spare us.I've heard from drivers themselves that they were thought new routes just hours before they started to operate.Im sure the irresponsability of the drivers was a main cause of the disruption in the service but there is a clear evidence of mismanagement.

John Borg (mlh)

Jul 9th 2011, 20:19

yes, there ai a lot of venom against Arriva, or so it seems.. but the underlying truth is that the venom is for the people who rid Malta of one of the last remaining ransoms. We have been victims to their whims and fancies for way too long. Tourists think the old buses were quaint and funny... another butt joke! The old system worked, sure.... how they wanted and when they wanted. Comfort and punctuality were not a concern. Some were polite, many were arrogant. It was take it or leave it. Someone has finally changed all of this and yes, for now, the public is suffering a bit longer. Every dog has his day, but those days are numbered.

angelo cilia

Jul 9th 2011, 20:24

No I won't spare you or anyone else Alistor, The drivers not showing up to work from day one is one of several things that is affecting the new bus service and it is done by the usual nasties to prove a fickle point in their brain or what passes for a brain . It is not the only one for sure that is hampering things but I call a spade a spade when I see it.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:06

angelo cilia the drivers that did not show up on day 1 were about 10% f the driver, so how come just 10% disrupt the whole service?
Doesn't this show crass incompetence on the management side?
And why did the other drivers leave after a few days?
Doesn't this tell you something?
Something that is, that NON-Arriva-L is not paying enough and is not managing correctly?
Why were shifts changed and the drivers not informed?
Is this also the drivers fault?
No Mr cilia, this is crass managment incompetence where they thought they know better than us.

Mr B Grech

Jul 10th 2011, 07:29

@Angelo I can assure you that almost everyone was excited by the prospect of a new transport system (irrespective of what your 1980s paranoia may be telling you). However you can t deny the fact that the new system has been a disaster till now. As I have not seen the workers contract which was months prior to the launch of Arriva I am in no position to condemn Arriva or the walkout workers. I m sure that no one would walk out on any job for no good reason, let alone 180! However the new routes are simply ridiculous. I ve had to give my wife a lift to and from work every work day ever since the launch. It was either that or have her arrive an hour or so late to work every day!

Mr David Willow

Jul 10th 2011, 07:56

and just where exactly where was the malti bid to run the service ---hmmm hard one that isnt it?



angelo cilia

Jul 10th 2011, 17:33

Tony, we readers know you have an axe to grind regarding Arriva and the present political party in power.
You Tony will soon be getting the Joe Zammit Award ™ for obsessing over one subject day in day out.
Yes, I agree that there is more going on than just absent drivers, but one would think that these drivers would have had the decency to show up for work on day one and iron out their objections with management at a later date once this new project is up and running. If they never liked the job conditions and the terms of employment they should have never signed on in the first place.

angelo cilia

Jul 10th 2011, 17:50

@ B Grech,

No 1980s paranoia on my part as I hate both main political parties equally, their good cop bad cop routine has long gone stale and in the end it is the man on the street that suffers for all their shenanigans .
I never said that the no show drivers were the main cause of the problem with the new bus service but if these people were genuine they would have showed up for work on day one. Let us face it, they are not helping the situation one bit and in the end this mess will be sorted out. Arriva has to start to listen to public common sense regarding the new bus routes, they plain don't work, and action has to be taken now not months from now as it will be too late for this consortium to survive.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:08

j brincat I am sure NON-Arriva-L were right when trhey said that our public transport provided by NON-Arriva-L of course, will be unparalleled.

Certainly unparalleled in total chaos

angelo cilia

Jul 9th 2011, 23:58

You are right JB, this is the main thing that Arriva should focus on pronto !

Victor Pulis

Jul 9th 2011, 19:37

I'm no lawyer but I think you can give a lift to whoever you please but what you can't do is charge these people a fee (you called it a donation) Most of the blame for this almighty cock up should be lie with Transport malta for the way it reinvented the routes. The old routes never caused any problems. The main issues were the old buses and the uncivilized drivers and not all of them at that. Create new routes by all means but not at the detriment to the old tried and tested ones. I hope Mr. bastow hears this plea from many commuters and tells TM where to get off.

Mr M Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 19:56

You can give a lift to whom you please

. If it is people or friends that you know there is nothing wrong in making them pay their share towards the fuel. Many office workers do this, there is no wrong in it.

Mr Tony Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 20:03

Cettina, people in the U.K. have been car-sharing for decades. I was wondering how long someone would twig in Malta.
The only snag is the insurance as you are using your car for 'hire or reward'. Good luck!

Victor Pulis

Jul 9th 2011, 20:21

@M Borg
If it's people you know or friends there won't be any need to 'make' them pay. They should donate out of their own accord. Cettina was saying, as I understood it, that she would pick up commuters from stages so I would presume they are not friends or aquaintances. In that case I think it is not lawful to charge for a lift. Yes office workers and others pool rides to work which is a good custom even when there is no crisis.

Mr Tony Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 20:34

@ Cettina Portelli
p.s. If, however, some of the people you give a lift to give you one in return and no money changes hands, that should clear both the insurance and the law.
That's what happens here in England, anyway. It's quite a common practice, mainly with people working and living near each other.

cettina portelli

Jul 9th 2011, 22:50

so, if out of the kindness of my heart i offer to give a lift to people waiting at a bus stop, its STILL 3 people less getting to work late or standing in the hot sun! it would also mean three less commuters who are at the mercy of ARRIVAs rubbish routes and timetables(? you must be joking!). i STILL have to take my son to work and collect him again whether my car has five passengers or two. ARRIVA are interested in making a profit. we maltese are interested in having a service to meet our needs. instead of just grumbling about the abysmal system that we have been given(oh, those crappy routes!), why dont we try helping the tourists and each other, by giving lifts until things are sorted out? ive been caught in the awful traffic jam in marsa in the mornings and MOST of the cars sitting in the jam only had one or two people in them! im sure other places in malta are the same. enough damage has been done to our economy in this past week. a government minister will still get his salary whether hotels, shops and businesses close down or not. its in our own interest, i believe.

Mr David Willow

Jul 10th 2011, 07:59

and just how exactly do you propose to identify whether people at the bus stop are going your way are you going to stop every morning and ask them - ludicrous.

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 19:25

The two-tiered fare system, one for ID card holders, and one for others, was ill conceived. Whoever came up with this idea was an idiot to say the least. In all my travels around the world I have never come across a transit system which charged locals a different fare than visitors even when the fares were subsidized. The only time transit systems ask for ID is when one purchased a reduced student or senior citizen fare.

Mr John J Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 20:03

the public outcry will come when arriva will demand TM a hefty sum of money for the adjustment of the routes......the article mentions that not all the drivers that did not show up were`old bus drivers` so clearly there is something wrong with the arriva salary/roster...i wonder how much these imported drivers are being paid and what other extras is paying arriva (flights/accomodation etc) in an effort to appear `untouchable`......everything summed up it would have been wiser to either work as it was agreed or if change was needed accept the drivers terms......AT LEAST THE NEW SYSTEM WOULD HAVE STARTED NORMALLY

R. Vella.

Jul 9th 2011, 19:28

agree 100 % !

Fran Abela

Jul 9th 2011, 19:12

Regarding a better wage I am sure their Union will do its best to get them conditions of work including an increase in wage. This is after all the mission of the Union.

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 9th 2011, 19:13

Well it is clear why Arriva would rather use one monster bus every hour instead of three small buses every twenty minutes. Three buses means three drivers - and Arriva doesn't want to pay, period.

Maruska Agius

Jul 9th 2011, 19:44

Mr-Cordina... you forgot to mention the air condition!! Both buses I was on today were so crowded that I did not feel the a/c at all. Also, my 2 yr old son was crying hysterically by the time we reached Valletta from Attard because people were sitting on the front of his pushchair as the bus was so crowded!! All this after waiting for more than an hour for the bus, 3 calls to Arriva Customer Care, every time getting Michela, who kept promising she will call somewhere where this somewhere was going to call the Depot and send us a bus over to Bus stop 0169!!
I can only conclude that Arriva does not have enough employees to operate this complicated route system otherwise I never called any Customer Care Department 3 times and keep getting my calls picked up from the same employee. Please note that I am 6 months pregnant as well!!!

Manuel Mantik

Jul 9th 2011, 19:22

in the UK u pay 3times more for everything than in malta! so whats ure point now?

Mr Saviour Scerri

Jul 9th 2011, 20:22

It is surprising that people like you all of a sudden came to know how much a bus driver in the U.k. earns. For sure it must be very difficult for you ( and those who reason like you) to understand that a driver from the U.K or Portugal ( by any chance......you don't happen to know how much the Portugise drivers earn ?) will be paid MORE if he leaves his native country, family etc to come here. Iit would be the same if a Maltese worker ( not just driver) is sent by his employer overseas................... he will be paid more. As that which regards " an eight hour shift straight say from 5.00am till 1.00pm" do you mean to say that the GWU betrayed them????? Did the GWU know of this and kept them in the dark???? Cause correct me if I am wrong the GWU adviced them to go to work, cause the conditions were acceptable.....

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:12

Manuel Mantik you are also paid a lot more than in Malta, so now what Manuel?
You're not from Fawlty Towers are you?

Joseph Farrugia

Jul 9th 2011, 19:32

inti tidher minn 1o mili boghod li MA TUZAX tal-linja.....il-problem mhix in-nuqqas ta' haddiema, mhux veru.

Il-problema hi ir-rottot li ma jaghmlux sens, li karozza tal-Arriva li tigi fil-hin, u tiehu siegha u nofs biex tasal il-belt minhabba rotta twila ghal xejn!!!

Marco Ciantar

Jul 9th 2011, 19:55

Ghal informazjoni tijek joseph farrugia ija nuzaha tal linja biex nitla belt ix xoghol u vera kien hemm delays imma ghajdli kemm il darba rajt li ha jaghmlu strike fuq in news tal linja ta qabel u jikmandaw huma ahjar nistenna naqa issa milli nhalli dawk is suppost haddiema jikmandaw il poplu meta jridu huma u ghal kumditata taghhom !

Mr Anthony Briffa

Jul 9th 2011, 19:16

This is certainly a sabotage, which needs to be investigated. Transport Malta should appoint a board of enquiry made up of competent persons, and necessary action should be taken if foul play is established.

Meantime Arrive should, in my opinion sue all drivers who went awol and abondoned their work without a proper justification, for the all the wages and training costs it incurred since they joined the company.

This is not a case of just undermining contractor Arriva, but a serious act, which is affecting the whole all aspect of Maltese life from normal commuting to work, tourism, businesses, etc.

Roy Schembri

Jul 9th 2011, 21:51

Mr Briffa, I'm not certain you're looking at the facts from both sides. To comtemplate taking a matter to court that is necessary.

First of all there is no evidence of sabotage. Sabotage of what ? The electronic systems of Arriva ? The bus stops that have no place names ? The buses running late ? The collisions encountered in the streets ? The bendy-bus breakdowns ?

An employer is quite within his rights to change a contract. However if this is done on a piece of scrap paper and the day before the employee is due to start then the matter becomes a little less one-sided.
It could be that the employee took on the contract knowing he could work 8 hours but wouldn't have taken it on had the contract been split over the day. The employee may have circumstances where he could not work split hours. The court would then ask why the employer left it to the last minute to inform the employee, when clearly in the case of Arriva, the company had drawn up timetables and schedules (presumably based on 8 hour shifts) over 2 weeks before the service was to start. Indeed they may have drawn up the schedules much earlier as how else could they have costed their tender? I think you'll find Mr Briffa that there is not enough 'evidence' to suggest any wrong doing, in fact a court may well award against Arriva in these circumstances so I rather doubt they will pursue in court.

Mr charles azzopardi

Jul 9th 2011, 18:59

Prosit .. at this point the companies are offering jobs which the workers are not accepting .. it is the basic law of supply and demand .. Teach Yourself Economics material ...

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 19:08

Mr. Mifsud. if the wage is so miserable, why did these people sign the contract? Well?

And you can't exactly compare the wages in other countries to Maltese wages without factoring in the cost of living of those countries. Do you know what it costs to rent a flat in London? Do you know that the average rent price for property in Greater London is £1,675.44 a month? Do you know how much home owners pay in property (poll) taxes every year, taxes which Maltese home owners don't pay? Do you know what it costs to buy a coffee in London? If the cost of living in Malta is 1/2 that of London let's say, they you can't expect the same wages as London!

Mr. Mifsud, do you know that drivers are not expected to work an 11hr 45m shift but two four-hour shifts with a 3hr 45m break in between?

Before you make comments, do your homework and do some reasearch.

Roberta Sciberras

Jul 9th 2011, 18:57

Yeah right - why don't we just hang and quarter them on St George's Square.

If Arriva had any sense of good management and PR, once it knew that the frequent split shifts were only for a short time (at least that's what it said) it could have met the drivers at least half way and gave them some extra pay for that split shift. As it turned out, with all the foreign staff it is importing, Arriva probably ended up paying even more and lost its reputation in the process.

Now Mr Bastow, tell us what bonus Arriva will be giving to the drivers who worked well above and beyond the call of duty. Or is Arriva only good with words... apologising to the public and praising the hard working drivers? Put your money were your mouth is Mr Bastow. It's what you should have done in the first place.

N. Bonello

Jul 9th 2011, 19:27

@Roberta Sciberras
'it could have met the drivers at least half way and gave them some extra pay for that split shift'.

Arriva and the Unions did meet them 'half-way'. It gave them EUR35 for a 4 hour break during the Sunday split shifts.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:19

Gary Simmonds go tell it to the marines Simmonds.
Arriva did not observe the contract because they simply changed the contract without any agreement with the drivers while paying them peanuts.
Fine them? Do you think that we are still your colony Simmonds?
Drivers and any worker has a right protected by law that they may leave without giving any notice for the first few weeks. Ban them from using transport? Are you suggesting the Gulaq Archipelago be introduced in Malta?
It is YOU should walk the streets in shame for your suggestions.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:20

N. Bonello yes and Saturdays, Sundays and Public Holidays are paid at a flat rate.
How's that for good working conditions?
This is modern slavery not work.

Joseph Attard

Jul 9th 2011, 19:02

A Maltese Operations Director was employed four weeks prior to start of the service. That is not so much forward thinking. In reality someone made a huge mess of a cake and then brought in a local who found the mess. The MAltese were not allowed to providea think tank on the future of bus scheduled transport in Malta because someone decided that he , coming from the UK knew it all.

Someone told me that there a Dwejra Gozo night service leaving at 2am
Others said that the first bus leaving to Ramla L Hamra in the morning leaves at 11 am

Nothing is wrong, just whoever did these routes is not local.......so changes to the routes are needed now . And yes as you said , what we needed was new buses, more educated drivers with manners and some touch ups in the system to serve the public much better. Of course ARRIVA lookat it fromanother aspect. the bottom line

N. Bonello

Jul 9th 2011, 19:23

@Joseph Attard

You said 'The MAltese were not allowed to providea think tank on the future of bus scheduled transport in Malta'.

The minister plainly said that the routes were 'given' to Arriva.

I blame TM or whoever for making such a mess of the system/routes. Amateurs would have done a much better job. I would be very interested to know who those CONsultants were and how much I/We paid them. I would like to see some blood coming from that direction as they seemed to have got away with this total fiasco scott free.

I blame Arriva for accepting the routes.

Mr Tony Gatt

Jul 9th 2011, 21:03

@ Adele Mintoff- The Maltese are renowned for their lateral thinking.
I guess this was planned all along. If Arriva fails no other international bus company will touch Malta with a barge-pole. That's the logic, then the old drivers will bring their trucks back out, keep the 100, 000 euro or whatever and everyone will be happy.
Some Hope!

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:24

Mr Tony Gatt lateral thinking is the brainchild of Prof Edward De Bono, a Maltese Professor.
What does NON-Arriva-L expect if ti pays peanuts?

Mr joseph saliba

Jul 9th 2011, 19:07

Don't blame the one who tries to pull you from the quagmire even if he fails. He might be worried more than you. Better show some gratitude. Should you have told us what was going to happen? Eh bilhaqq you're not paid for that.

Fran Abela

Jul 9th 2011, 19:10

It is none of your business what Arriva should do since you seem to be so dead set against Arriva being here in the first place. I sincerely hope that their loyal drivers will be rewarded in due course for their efforts despite their Maltese 'brothers' actions in jeopardising their jobs. As for the tie - what is wrong with having certain codes of dress or would you prefer them to wear shorts, tank tops with their bellies showing and unshaven and dirty as used to be the case with some of the previous bus drivers.

Victor Pulis

Jul 9th 2011, 19:44

Fran who told you that I am against Arriva? where in my comments did you read that Arriva was the cause for all this madness? I have been writing since the start of the service and I always laid the blame at the door of TM who were responsible for the new routes which I think are largely to blame for this chaos .
As for the tie, you mantioned shorts, tank tops and bellies. I didn't, I just mantioned the tie. i believe a smart driver will still be smart without a tie especially if he comports himself in an educated manner.
before jumping on someone try and read his comments first.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:25

Fran Abela its NONE of YOUR business since YOU seem to be so much against Maltese drivers.

Mr joseph saliba

Jul 9th 2011, 19:01

rank politics

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:34

The new routes were (ill)conceived by Transport Malta not Arriva. If you have complaints about them call Transport Malta!

Joe Brincat-LL.D

Jul 9th 2011, 18:53

Victor, one should read between the lines on what Mr Bastow says so diplomatically.
1. He avoids any issue about routes. Why ?
2. He insists on workers defaulting. Some from the old system, but an equal number chosen and anointed by Arriva. Why ?
3. They had to contract out, with the approval of Transport Malta, but they have the logo !!!! I conclude that there are not enough buses, as simple as that. Couldn't Arriva have hired the driver, and given him one of their buses to drive ?
4. Even Arriva is finding the routes not practical and not profitable. Notice this statement about "services in more remote areas with lower passenger numbers".
services in more remote areas with lower passenger numbers

Victor Pulis

Jul 9th 2011, 18:57

I know that transport malta was responsible for the insane new routes and I have been eriting about it since the start of the disaster. Most people are blaming arriva for it. I am asking Mr. Bastow to put his foot down and stand up to TM about this issue. If the routes are returned to what they were the service will improve for sure.

Sue De Nym

Jul 9th 2011, 19:10

Feedback and support......... do we have a choice???????!!!!!!!!!

Mr Joseph Calleja

Jul 9th 2011, 19:11

I agree with your suggestion, bring back the old routes and everything will improve. Dump MOT. Transport Malta is responsible for 3/4 of the bus fiasco. I thought that the government was going to stay out of private busnesses? Ghada fil-ghodu.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:28

Victor Pulis TM did the routes but on the insistence of NON-Arriva-L that they must have their buses full all the time and not have any buses with half the passenger capacity.
They were GREEDY and this is what they got.
Pity the Maltese commuters are suffering as a result of their GREED.

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:36

Look Mr. Ellul! These people signed a contract before they started work which included their pay. If they didn't want to work for the pay they were being offered, they shouldn't have signed the contract. Signing the contract implied that they were ready to accept the conditions of the contract, which includes hours of work, types of shifts being worked, and pay! That simple!

Mr carlos ellul

Jul 9th 2011, 18:56

One should really investigate if the goal posts had been moved in terms of conditions. I am accusing no one here. I am just saying that such issue demands a serious investigation from indipendent parties.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:30

Mr carlos ellul you are perfectly correct.
They want more CHEAP LABOUR than we already have.

Ganni Sciberras

Jul 9th 2011, 18:40

illum mil qawra al mosta 5 kaozzi wara xulxin addew kolla full up. Qatt ma graw dan l affarijiet qabel!

Mr Mario Mercieca

Jul 9th 2011, 18:44

and your solution..vote in labour now..correct?

Alfred Grech

Jul 9th 2011, 18:55

Yes, Mario, you said it. That will be the best solution.

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 19:30

As if the same thing wouldn't have happened under Labour! Give us a break folks.

Do not politicize and issue that has nothing to do with politics. After all the major problem has been caused by workers (the backbone of the Labour Party!)

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:31

Wilfred Camilleri NO Wilfred, under Labour things will run much smoother because it knows how to manage unlike the present arrogant incompetents that we have for a governemnt

C Muscat

Jul 10th 2011, 06:22

Political situation in this country will never change unless we find a person capable of becoming a leader out of his own steam. The modern times has created a leader that is called media which unfortunately most of the times are in the wrong hands.
We have very bad management and with PL it will be worse. I will not vote any more unless for someone personally irrespective of party.

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:40

Mr Jo Meli - Now you are calling the hard working drivers monkeys! The only monkeys, actually more like "hnizer u hmir" are those drivers who signed the contract to work for a certain wage and then decided that they didn't want to work for whatever reason. If Malta Bus drivers did their homework on the wages of their counterparts on the Continent and in the UK and expected an equivalent wage, why did they sign the contract in the first place? Is it because they wanted to sabotage the system or is it because they were "qabda injuranti?"

Paul Ellul

Jul 9th 2011, 18:17

I agree with you. Their time here will be short-lived. At the most I give them till the election sucking us dry of our money. Mr Muscat take head. We do not want Non-Arriva in Malta.

M. Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:25

Words of wisdom indeed! What, exactly, does 'disappreciate' mean? And who, in Malta, gets 85% of the wages of their 'counterparts' on the 'continent' (which continent anyway, and which part?) I have made quite a few trips with Arriva this week Mr Jo Meli, and I assure you that the drivers on these buses, far from being the monkeys you take them for, were VERY courteous, efficient, patient, and hard working. Maybe you can learn a thing or two from them ...

N. Bonello

Jul 9th 2011, 18:34

@Mr Jo Meli

85% - Well I wish I got 85% of EU wages for my work.

If money is what they are after then I don't think we will get Monkeys but Gorillas.

Re double time. Dont forget that Arriva were given those routes. IMHO shame on Arriva for accepting them.

Mr D Psaila

Jul 9th 2011, 18:40

What a dreadful comment to make. The new bus drivers who are working are polite, friendly and many of them have shown themselves to be a credit to Malta and Arriva. A refreshing change.

@ Paul Ellul - everything is going to be perfect is it when Mr Muscat is Prime Minister which I am sure he will be after the next election. A lot of people in this country are going to be in for a big shock when they find out he can't work miracles.

Alistair Busuttil

Jul 9th 2011, 18:43

they need to address the main problems but to say they will have short life here its too early

Charlie Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 20:18

@ Paul Ellul: Somehow, I don't think that Joseph Muscat will take your advice of 'taking head'! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:33

M. Camilleri The PM and his Ministers.

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:49

Mr. Grech: The drivers signed a contract for a specific wage based on the hours they were expected to work. They were even offered extra money for the split shifts, which they really weren't entitled too! So the only conclusion one can draw is that these drivers were out to sabotage the service from the get-go. The only other possible conclusion is that they are so ignorant that they couldn't read the terms of the agreement! Pick your choice.

As for the routing, I agree with you. Transport Malta obviously does not have the expertise to draw up new routes, or if they do, their employees are incompetent.

Manuel Mantik

Jul 9th 2011, 19:02

the routes were planned by transportmalta! so u are right! they dont have any experience in traffic logistics at all!

Lino Attard

Jul 9th 2011, 18:31

Drivers not reporting for work are sabotaging the already faulty system, thereby creating more havoc. Consequently they should be sacked.
With regard to the routs don't blame Arriva. If I understood correctly that Minister Austin Gatt was reported to have said that the new routs including the interchanges were drawn locally not by Arriva.

David Philip Farrugia

Jul 9th 2011, 18:21

is it really the wage? I know many minivan drivers who earn even much less. Let's consider the minibus service to Valletta. The fee is said to be €0.80 if you multiply that by 15 passengers that gives you €12. If it takes an average of 1 hr for one trip and you factor in the fuel , insurance and service expenses it is surely a miserable remuneration for the employed driver.

N. Bonello

Jul 9th 2011, 18:27

If its a matter of wages I think that the issues should have been sorted out beforehand - before drivers signed contracts. I see that this tactic of sign on then we can sabotage the system to get our way is not one to encourage. They knew the wages and conditions before signing up. They even recently got an extra EUR 35 to have a 4 hour break on Sundays.

I'm sorry but if Arriva and we give in to these bullies we are destined to the usual tantrums we know too well.

But this is Malta and we cant upset the bus drivers lobby votes can we.

If its a matter of money I and tens of thousands have more of a right to protest but we don't (because we are not organised and dissuaded). Now we have this group of bullies that always get what they want at our expense. I say NO stand up to them once and for all.

Arriva be strong and wise up to this sabotage.

@Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
'a good service does not come cheap and either fares will have to be increased or further subsidies will have to be renegotiated'

Yes, that is what I'm afraid of. Fares or subsidies WILL increase in the very near future and beyond, contrary to what we have been told, the question is if us mere mortals will be able to pay the fares that will be asked.

I'm amazed that the private sector continually miscalculate the costs involved in a project then come around months later and say sorry we have to put up prices. Is this professional ? Does every business have to make millions from day one.

Mr Joseph Calleja

Jul 9th 2011, 18:28

I agree with your reasoning with all the problems that Arriva is facing.
As far as the pay, I assume that these drivers and their unions agreed to these wages before hand, if not, then the union is to blame.
Hiring the same drivers we tried to replace in the first place is another big mistake. Immediately replace the ones that do not show up for work. lot of good able people looking for work.
The new routes are more frustrating as never before and as you called them, the smart asses at the MOT( a name very well deserved) should have stuck to the old routes which worked very good in most cases. We want less travelling time and not a tour of the inner cities.
Most of these buses have no business being on the streets of the inner cities in Malta. The narrow streets and the side parking does not allow enough room for these big buses. Another reason why drivers are losing their patience.
Don't forget we are Maltese and we are very critical of everything. Nothing is ever good enough for us. Maybe that is why foreign investors shy away from investing in Malta. I am sure that if Arriva had any inclination of all these problems, they would have stayed away too.
We love the buses and we do like most of the drivers but the rest has to go. Agree?

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:36

Seems like NON-Arriva-L needs that little blue pill Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:40

N. Bonello faresw have already been increased by more than 319% so why the hell are you suggestign further increases?
How did the old bus owners make a profit when the fare was 47c and pensioners and school children paid less than the full fare?
Do you know that NON-Arriva-L is getting a subsidy of €8 MILLION every year from our TAXES?
Do you know that it didn't cost NON-Arriva-L a penny to upgrade the public transport infrastructure because it was upgraded courtesy of OUR TAXES?
Why was no upgrade done when there were the Maltese bus owners and now the GONEZI Government is paving the way with gold for NON-Arriva?
Personal interests anyone?
Why should then fares be increased as YOU suggested?

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:43

Wilfred Camilleri numbers keep increasing.
Now either NON-Arriva-L is doing this on purpose as an excuse for their crap service or else if it is true there must be something wrong for the numbers to keep increasing.
This only means that drivers are fed up and are not happy with the wages and working conditions NON-Arriva-L is offering.

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:43

Wilfred Camilleri numbers keep increasing.
Now either NON-Arriva-L is doing this on purpose as an excuse for their crap service or else if it is true there must be something wrong for the numbers to keep increasing.
This only means that drivers are fed up and are not happy with the wages and working conditions NON-Arriva-L is offering.

N. Bonello

Jul 9th 2011, 18:46

What does 'They were on a good earner, and good for them' mean.

Charles Micallef

Jul 9th 2011, 19:17

N. Bonello

They were on a good wage, because they working two jobs like a lot of people on the Island.............. so they were on a good earner..! That is why some rebelled as the hours that with hours that they end up working for arriva, they could not keep their part time work aswell. It is commendable that some goout of their way, and get a second job to give their families a better standard of living..

Having said all that Arriva should have been wiser in taking on such drivers, and all this in addition to the fact that some were extremist and militant trouble makers with the old bus service, and arriva should have known who they were, and kept them out of their workforce. Let us not also remember, that these same drivers did not even obey the GWU instructions to work as normal

Mr Anthony Borg

Jul 9th 2011, 18:08

Yes, Mr.Degiorgio, it has been a very rough week for all of us commuters, but I share your optimism! Because the management is adamant at finding a solution and does not drag its feet in apologising.

Arriva should rise to the occassion and admit that changing the 8-hour roster to split shifts was a gross mistake.

Paul Ellul

Jul 9th 2011, 18:21

I think that the best thing is for Arriva to pack up and leave our shores.

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:33

Oh yes Paul Ellul. And then the ignorant bus drivers who delivered the most uncomfortable and sub-standard service anywhere in the world can win the day and expect to come back and treat riders like garbage! If you want garbage good for you but Maltese commuters should expect and deserve more even if it takes a month or so to get things straightened out.

Marisa Brincat

Jul 9th 2011, 18:36

Same goes for you Paul Ellul

Manuel Mantik

Jul 9th 2011, 19:19

which part of the shore is ours, mr. ellul? is there a share for everybody? for me too? and do u still wash the yellow bus in ure garage daily, just in case...?

Mr Tony Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 23:47

Wilfred Camilleri you always get bad apples in a box but don't you think that to call all of them ignorant is a bit too much? If they delivered the most uncomfortable and substandard service in the world, what do you call the crap service by NON-Arriva-L?

Mr W Cassar

Jul 9th 2011, 18:49

I didn't see DISSETT, but if what you write is correct....then I really have no words except to say I can't wait for the next election...the PN will lose by a record landslide this time around, because this kind of attitude goes way beyond party colours.

Paul Ellul

Jul 9th 2011, 18:23

They get over 600 euros a week + expenses for staying in a hotel. Who's paying I want to know. Some have come over with their family.

Adrian Sacco

Jul 9th 2011, 18:25

Those drafted in will be paid the market rate according to where they and their families live and pay their bills. Would you leave behind your home and family, live out of a suitcase and take a pay cut for the privilege, Mr Micallef? Do attempt some joined-up thinking, please!

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 9th 2011, 18:27

What do you expect? These drivers have to travel to another country three hours away and leave their family and friends behind. Not to mention that they have to do their job in unfamiliar surroundings and traffic patterns!

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