Updated: - Arriva international CEO in Malta, PM comments on the bus service
The UK-based Chief Executive Officer of Arriva is in Malta to inspect the bus service after five days characterised by complaints.
The CEO, David Martin, arrived yesterday afternoon and this morning visited the Valletta terminus. He is also being shown around other facilities and meeting local company oficials and the government.
Transport Minister Austin Gatt said on television yesterday that he has made his disappointment known to the CEO. He noted that the company had said it would get the service on track by the end of the week, and added that the regulatory authorities may take action if problems persisted. However, he said, for him the most important thing was not the imposition of penalties, but ensuring that the people were satisfied with the service.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi in comments this morning said that the government was pressing Arriva to reach the standards which had been agreed upon, as Transport Minister Austin Gatt said yesterday. (See full comments on video)
Initial problems were to be expected, he said, and he was extremely disappointed by the fact that 70 drivers had not turned up for work, but he was confident that problems on the bus service would be resolved.
Arriva said this morning that the service is improving and more drivers are being deployed. A spokesman acknowledged early morning problems on the routes to Rabat and Zebbug.
Commuters, however, were still experiencing delays in several localities as well.
Meanwhile, Arriva also temporarily switched off electronic destination signage on the buses to rectify a computer fault which has persisted since the launching of the service. Most of the buses were temporarily displaying cardboard route numbers this morning.
SHELTERS FROM THE WEATHER
It is going to take six weeks for a canopy to be built at the bus interchange in Bugibba/Qawra.
Replying to a parliamentary question by Nationalist MP Censu Galea, Transport Minister Austin Gatt said in parliament that a call for tenders was issued and the bids had been adjudicated.
The canopy will be completed in six weeks.
The absence of shelters from the blazing sun has been one of the sources of complaint about the new bus service - leading the authorities to set up temporary shelters at the Valletta terminus and some outlying interchanges notably Qormi/Marsa and Pembroke.
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Pierre Mangion
Jul 8th 2011, 08:45
this is all just management by crisis - when you have someone's ego (in this case a whole bunch of people starting from politicians to their lickasses and the contractors) taking over the project. Where is the planning? Why is the canopy to be installed after the start of the service? Why has not the IT system been severelly tested - god forbid the IT geniuses behind this project had to lead the country's information system as otherwise we have to bring back the typewriters, pencils and telex.
On a tangent - the same bunch promoting this service were promoting the now forgotten smart city project. Rumours have it that the leading construction firm has sent the majority of it's personnel to their respective countries or on other projects abroad.
Andrea Giallombardo
Jul 8th 2011, 04:53
service is working fine in sliema, st. julians area..
Mr Victor vella
Jul 7th 2011, 23:43
I ask the CEO David Martin who is running the service the Minister Wistin Gatt or his company? Who is paying for the service Wistin Gatt or the customers that are using the service? You really are a Mickey mouse company. The lip service that the people of Malta are suffering was never met in the history of bus transport in Malta. People want a better service than the one we had and Arriva had to be more democratic by finding routes that satisfy the wants and needs of customers and not of Wistin Gatt.
Mr Charles.C. Brown
Jul 7th 2011, 23:24
The maltese who use buses daily to go to work or wherever will not be satisfied unless the old routes are brought back. if it needs to employ new buses and move to a bigger terinus in valletta use the independece arena let it be it!! common sence please....
Anthony Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 22:54
People talk about unreliability. The old buses were reliable whatever state they were in. The PN could have invested millions before acceding to the EU and there would not have been the need to go for open tenders.
We are all used to people wearing shorts in summer. Why can't the driver wear them as well together with flipflops. we are not a nation that weras much clothes even tough we are religious.
The new buses will within a month start looking as grothy as the others did. Non Arriva underinvested in their numbers.
Gatt should resign and so should the PM and let the opposition lead us to a proper public transport system.
G Hoare
Jul 9th 2011, 00:35
Is this the joke of the day, shorts and flipflops even in the highway code it is illegal to drive in flipflops or bare footed are you by any chance an ex-driver as you sounded
Joseph Bartolo
Jul 7th 2011, 21:37
Mine is a very basic comment really since I do not myself use the buses at all, however I can say that my perception is that there are a lot more people on bus stops these days than I used to observe before the change. This is so at the Marsascala stage near the swings (ironically where the PM lives) and also along the way to Valletta, including at Fgura and on the stages near Bombi (but in this case heading away from Valletta). This can't be good.
Mark Jones
Jul 7th 2011, 21:36
Another sudden bit of road engineering has now stopped traffic from turning right out of the recently re-laid Triq il-Gudja at Bir Miftuh - a route that the new buses had been using earlier in the week.
Another case of Transport Malta doing its best to assist Arriva in bringing the island to a complete standstill?
Another nail in the coffin of the minister responsible, as would have happened in most countries? As if.
Mr carlos ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 20:58
Just came from over 3hrs waiting on the stage. Please do bring the old system back. We need it.
Austin pls resign.
Michael Scicluna
Jul 7th 2011, 20:14
In my opinion the let down to The Hon Dr Austin Gatt and the commuters, has come from whoever planned the re-routing and the change in the bus numbering along with strange bus stops naming. As it would not have been possible to install the reform along the old system the new system could have been started where the older one was, with options to change as ones goes along. Albeit it was serving the commuters lifestyle for over 40 years, what was needed some start and finishing changes, and installing the smaller inter village routes. I am not a transport expert but like many I drive a car all day for my work, travel abroad, and notice what is going around me, sometimes even spend the luxury of using the Public Transport Service. About the technical glitches these should have never happened in a world of Smart Cities, construction and installation of shelters should have been taken care of at much earlier stage, so part of the blame is maybe bad planning from the start and armchair management. In the meantime I sympathize with the users and hope that all the issues are resolved without haste to everyone’s satisfaction. Arriva Motto should be Customer Care and Satisfaction.
Lino Busuttil
Jul 8th 2011, 10:02
Spot on Mr Scicluna, may some routes are a good idea but existing ones should have been kept at least most of them. The other problem is the kind of salaries being offered these days for a days work, by these international companies which equates to problems in maintaining their trained staff happy at work and not leaving with the first opportunity. Planning was surely lacking especially in testing the system and in ercting proper shelters.
Mr Mario Mercieca
Jul 7th 2011, 19:46
I cannot understand how we are still set with paper tickets. Its the only country in the world with paper tickets. Arriva will not fix the problem unless they decide to sell tickets which can be detected by an automated machine. A lot of time is being wasted by drivers selling tickets. This then reduces the frequency of the routes as drivers take longer to arrive frm A to B. SO pleae sell bus tickets at stationers and fit in the automated machines to puch or detect them
Lino Sant
Jul 7th 2011, 18:23
In my oppeneon Arriva made two big mistakes, One they should kept the same rouths of old busses, second, the master mind of the Transport Authority will be engaged untill the system is in perfect way, than will be the hand over, also i must add, that this disposable busses are not going to work in our Island, you have to bring extra busses to substitute for the break dawn ounce, becouse they are too fragile for our roads, and climate.
Sue De Nym
Jul 7th 2011, 18:20
I'm no expert, but why not provide infrequent direct larger buses that pass through the main roads only, with fewer stops (providing services to the more busy/touristy areas)? And, smaller but more frequent buses that go through the villages themselves?
phyllis butler
Jul 7th 2011, 18:18
A trip from Sliema started at 08:15 a.m. this morning and arival time in Cirkewwa was 11:30 a.m. Boarding bus in Cirkewwa was at 2:00 p.m. and arrival in Sliema at 4:40 p.m. I sincerely hope that Hon Mario DeMarco steps in since the Maltese are complaining, and rightly so, but the tourists are not remaining far behind. Even though the buses are comfortable and the drivers are very polite and smart, the service is not being given and this has nothing to do with the drivers who didn't turn up for work on Monday. The trip mentioned above is quoted as 1 hour 1 minute on the Arriva home page - perhaps another miscalculation like certain routes and interchanges?
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 19:43
One hour one minute...Not one hour two minutes or one hour one minute and forty seconds!
Jonathan McBee
Jul 8th 2011, 00:34
As inconvenient as it is for the Maltese to lose so much time commuting, I cannot help but feel even sorrier for tourists who are spending a significant portion of their limited time here waiting rather than exploring a new country.
Mr M Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 17:24
This is a crisis situation. I suggest that the administrators should listen to complaints and suggestions of the public, and adjust accordingly.
My first suggestion is to keep the public informed through radio, TV, and internet on how the system works, and the current frequency and times of the buses. In this way commuters will be more informed on how to use the system, and will not wait in vain on the stages.
Ritianne Abohason
Jul 7th 2011, 17:11
This is mostly what is causing the disruption in the service i.e. drivers selling tickets and checking for IDs. All of you who have travelled abroad know that the drivers in other countries don't sell tickets, don't check IDs and don't even check whether you have a ticket or not. You buy tickets from a ticketing office or tobacconists/post offices in every village. When you're on the bus, you just hold the ticket in front of another machine and voila! No one has to wait for you until you've gone through all the niceties with the bus driver. Bus drivers don't even have to be polite because you don't have to speak to the driver at all during your voyage! All they're required to do is drive the buses (frequently I might add) from Point A to Point B. I think if you wanted a service 'bhal ta barra' we should have adopted everything they do 'barra'.
If we have to be sure that everyone is paying for his trip and not taking a free ride, at least we could have a system where the bus driver is shown the ticket only, not him having to sell tickets and check ID Cards/Kartanzjan/Passports!
Stella Chetcuti
Jul 7th 2011, 17:02
S Chetcuti
Marsa residents who take the bus to Bombi or Valletta from 13th December Road are having to wait for more than half an hour (inhaling car fumes) to finally start their 5 to 7 minute bus journey to the city, and when a bus arrives it is packed full! With the old bus service we rarely had to wait for more than 10 minutes (max) on the bus stop and bus arrivals where continous during work hours. The situation is becoming more and more frustrating. As we have always commuted to work it seems as if we are being punished for doing so. The new bus service was supposed to attract more and more people to it. They were supposed to gladly leave their private cars at home and opt to use the public transport as it was loudly being advertised as faster and cheaper. I think that the new public transport service has BACK FIRED!!
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Jul 7th 2011, 19:49
Gone are the days, Stella, when two or three buses would be in line round 8.30 t0 9.00. Now we have a superlative service for the 21st Century.
Ms Eve Axiaq
Jul 7th 2011, 16:57
Ghalfejn ix- xufiera qed joqoghdu jaghmlu parlata shiha ma kull passiggier li jitla?? Veru jrid ikun hemm customer care imma z- zejjed kollu zejjed.
U ghalfejn qed isuqu bil mod hafna anke meta triq tkun dritta u vojta mit- traffic??
Route 11 from Sliema to Cirkewwa damet 2.15 hrs!! Bilkemm setghet titla t- telgha tal- Mellieha.
Allhares qabadni xi toilet convenience.
Chris Spiteri
Jul 7th 2011, 16:46
BUS 012 needs a really good wash!!!
Mr Victor Calleja
Jul 7th 2011, 17:14
Not only bus 012. I saw many of them dirty from the outside. Perhaps they have no time to car wash the buses. Parole si fatti no.
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 16:41
I remember Dr. Austin gatt saying that on 3rd July The Maltese will wake up as if they were living in another country because of the change in the transport system...I never imagined he meant Afghanistan!
Sue De Nym
Jul 7th 2011, 18:10
lol!! Yeps, some people live in Laa-Laa Land.....
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 7th 2011, 22:09
@ Sue De Nym,
But not when it comes to their weeky raise. That was a true state of the art rip off.
V. Cauchi
Jul 7th 2011, 16:41
I bet my last shilling that by Monday morning some 50 per cent of the old buses would have been "temporarily" brought back on the road driven by emergency drivers, trips would have gone back on the old routes and the whole fare structure would have been revised (probably slightly upwards).
I trust this would involve a full weekend of work to avert the economic losses (labour, fuel and prestige) we have incurred and to try reaching a face-saving formula in which reform is introduced more humanely and in a less self assured manner.
So much for abrupt innovation and I trust there is still some salt at Cabinet level by not simply shoving the responsibility on Arriva when it is known there were many cooks who put their fingers in the pie.
Anthony Pace
Jul 8th 2011, 07:51
According to the minister the fare structure is to remain static for three years.
But I agree with you that by Monday the old buses will be running back on the road, doing the same old trips.
Arriva will be told to order more of the smaller buses, the bendy buses willl be withdrawn and the bigger buses consigned to the main roads.
We should have appreciated our heritage more and not just said that they need to go into a museum. I always liked them even tough the drivers were a bit short on words. I ignored the swearing and the holy relics took us from A to B safely,
Resign minister for the fiasco you created and let someone younger and more tuned in take over. Take the PM with you as well.
Michael Magri
Jul 7th 2011, 16:40
If ARRIVA persists with this miserable so called service then we should all say ADIOS AMICOS to ARRIVA and go to our cars or minivans
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 16:34
6:12 07/07/2011
For the most part of the video, a pompous rhetoric about how much "his" government has done and what courage he displayed". Let me see your courage Dr.Gonzi and, accompanied with your Transport minister, visit the Valletta Terminus and the Mater Dei Interchange! Show some solidarity with your people and see first hand the utter chaos that this "progress" brought.
And stop blaming the ever increasing number of defaulting drivers (first, they were a dozen, then 55, now Dr. Gonzi is saying there were 70). If he doesn't have a twin brother, I could have sworn I rode bus 106 this morning at 09:50 with the driver in the video who was urging his comrades to hand in their uniforms and refuse the roster.
I am sure the senior citizens, the mothers with pushchairs and others like myself, waiting for 2 hours in the blazing sun with no shelter, for buses that do not materialise at Mater Dei Hospital would welcome concrete action, not empty, pompous rhetoric! (I waited for Route 125 for 2 hours, then gave up and boarded 106 instead.)
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 7th 2011, 16:57
@ Gaetano Attard,
Probably scratching his head, trying to figure what to say when KM GOES BUST. OOPS sorry that's already bust.
Mr Michael Debono
Jul 7th 2011, 18:19
Until Arriva arrived there was no complaint of people waiting in the sun. So what happened. Why Arriva did not use rhe same routes and shelters. Once these were fine Arriva should have continued using them. Very simple!
Gaetano Attard
Jul 7th 2011, 16:24
Where ar your "Par Idejn Sodi" now Lawrence ! ?
D. Xerri
Jul 7th 2011, 16:40
Par Idejn Sodi fuq it-Tmun tal-Arriva..... eeeh sorry ta` Pajjizna :~)
Mr Peter Buttigieg
Jul 7th 2011, 16:10
What about the GOZITANS?
To get to Valletta from Imgarr Gozo it would take a Gozitan either 2 & 1/2 hours using Arriva 41 or 3 hours using Arriva 11.
Instead of ameliorating the service for Gozitans it is actually getting worse?
what does the EU stipulates for the Gozitan's concern? Regional? or relegated to the UNKNOWN?
EU gives funds to upgrade the transport, roads & services but for Malta it is the other way round when Cirkewwa is mentioned. Why?
who is really in command at the moment? Arriva or the Minister?
Can the Minister experience the pleasant bus rides from Valletta to Cirkewwa where the trips has been lengthened and then make his comments?
One must not forget that arriving at Cirkewwa there can be a 45 minute waiting for the next ferry!
Ask the Gozitans they know what this means!!!!
Routes 11 and 41 does not cater for travellers to and from Gozo!
Did Arriva make an estimate time of all the routes to help people plan their trip?
Were these published anywhere?
ARE WE GOZITANS ICONSIDERED IN WHAT IS HAPPENING OR BEING PLANNED
Who is looking after our interests?
Mr Michael Debono
Jul 7th 2011, 18:30
Arriva has decided to use new routes at their pleasure in order to economise on petrol. And what happened? Ecery body is protesting. Arriva had enough time to draw the routes with the help of locals at the offices of transport Malta.
If Arriva came to Malta to make a good profit it will have to double the fares and suffer the consequences.
Arriva travail is in the open air and not hidden behind screens like the Valletta terminus and the non existant open gate and the theatre. We shall see when things atre uncovered just before the elections.
If the same happens, good luck to Gonzip.n.
Roy Schembri
Jul 7th 2011, 15:35
Dr Gonzi, rather than persisting with blame for the errant drivers (whoever they are and if ever they were ! ) you'd best show the leadership you promised prior to election. You are ultimately responsible, not the mysterious 'missing' drivers, Arriva or even Dr Gatt and his department. You need to send for Arriva C.E.O. while the man is here and let him know you are in charge and then in no uncertain terms what is required.
The new routes etc be suspended immediately in favour of a return to the old routes, schedules and route numbers. No ifs or buts, you and your Government decided to change public transport so now have a duty to ensure this happens successfully. If Arriva want to work here that will be the only way. If they don't comply then dismiss them and have their bags packed. Things have gone wrong Dr Gonzi and public transport is such a priority for any country that you need to step in now and halt the chaos, inconvenience and suffering your venture is causing. Once the old services are returned and we get back to normal then other matters such as who caused the failures can be addressed.
Sandra Grima
Jul 7th 2011, 16:08
I agree with you 100% we desperately need the old routes back arriva please take notice apart from the missing drivers, arriva breakdowns etc!!!!!!!!
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 16:09
16:07 07/07/2011
A very sensible comment Mr.Schembri.
It beats me why our politicians do not see the obvious.
Stella Chetcuti
Jul 7th 2011, 16:18
Marsa residents who take the bus towards Valletta from December 13th Road are having to wait for over half an hour for a bus to come, (inhaling car fumes!). With the old service we rarely waited for more than 10 minutes to start our 5 to 7 minute journey to Bombi or Valletta. I think the situation is becoming rather frustrating. People who have always commuted to go to work are being punished for what?..... having always taken the bus to go to work? Shouldn't the new transport system have worked the other way round, meaning that people left their private cars at home to rest and gladly opting to commute, which was supposed to be faster and cheaper. I think that the new transport system has BACK FIRED!
EMMANUEL ZAMMIT
Jul 7th 2011, 15:14
mr gonzi should have a look in his town where he live. 1 hour waiting for the bus NO 91 to go valleta.
still same problem !! PLUS we have to walk more and pay more.
By the way we where use to have a bus to bormla area and now we have to take 3 buses to go there.
thanks god we are not in USA.
I think the south should be given some attention not nothing.
Alex Falzon
Jul 7th 2011, 15:29
to correct you 2 buses from M'scala to Zabbar & Zabbar to Bormla
n grech
Jul 7th 2011, 16:32
@alex falzon
if you happen to live in the largest, most populated area of m'scala ie siberia/jerma area you have to catch 3 buses. one to grabiel, one to zabbar and a third to cottonera. and hope you make the connections. the 91 bus does not serve the majority of scalin directly.
krystle micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 15:09
bhalma il-gvern qed jistenna li l-arriva timxi skond il ftehim li hemm miktub fil-kuntartt ix-xufiera stennew hekk ukoll! mela mhux nkomplu nhamguwom u nghidu li tort taghhom! illum huwa 5 jum ta servizz fejn ix-xufiera l-antiki kecciethom u gabet il-barranin fejn ilom joperaw 3 ijiem!! pero xorta ghad hemm il-problemi? IVA mela mhux l-ex xufiera problema imma l-Arriva u min mexxa fil-ftehim!
Mr Alex Buds
Jul 7th 2011, 15:07
Better a Cuc Malti than a Cuc Ingliz any day!
At least the first one is cheaper!
Gordon Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 15:03
What about the old blue bus stops?when are they gonna be removed,maybe the grinder is not working or they are left there on purpose for people to take the poles for free and use them for the free to air antennas........................oh i forgot net tv and one tv are not broadcasting yes as we were promised from the first of June ..........................meglio tardi che mai..................
Mr John J Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 16:13
lol good one.....btw i heard that when local stations start transmitting digital...it will be also the day that melita and go tv will start losing more clients.......because of dreambox
Ms F Goodwin
Jul 7th 2011, 14:56
Six weeks to build a canopy?! Bis-serjeta? If TM are really this incompetent, then why not contract some kind of event management company from abroad - they put up temporary canopies within a day for weddings and the like. The commuters definitely need something in the meantime. Seriously, put up some poles, suspend some kind of weatherproof material between the poles... it doesn't take six weeks. Obviously something permanent is needed, but in the meantime we need some kind of shelter, especially if the delays will persist.
Also, the number of no-shows has fluctuated between 55 and 70 according to which Arriva official or politician is speaking. Can we have an official number please, so we know when they are exaggerating or understating it?
Frank Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 14:49
@ David Martin, CEO
Please allow me comment in an objective way re the present ‘service’ rendered to the Maltese commuters by Arriva.
Many surely agree that before planning a bus route system, one should study the needs, culture and expectations of the cohort towards whom the route system is addressed. It is a very serious short sight to use a bus route pattern/system without paying heed to these indicators.
Unfortunately, whoever planned the present route system simply ‘imposed’ the pattern, which may be suitable to large cities but definitely not to a small island like Malta.
Changing three buses to go to certain localities is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Waiting for hours for a bus is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Change buses over relatively short distances a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Changing buses to go to Mater Dei apart from being a far cry from an efficient bus service is highly insensitive to the hustle and pain especially endured by the sick and the aged.
The Maltese way of life demands:
i. direct service to Valletta and back from and to every town and village as we used to have,
ii. direct service to Mater Dei as we used to have ,
iii. frequent bust stops in strategic points within the village/ town as we used to have.
Mr David Martin, the buses are great, the drivers are wonderful. All that is needed for the success of Arriva in Malta can only be guaranteed by the reintroduction of the old route system.
The present route system,at best can be at best described as short sighted,disrupting, chaotic and insensitive
Finally, I implore you to pay heed to our needs by reintroducing the old route system for the benefit of all stakeholders.
Thank you.
Mr Luke Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 17:07
Here's some interesting information Mr Camillieri, i was told during Arriva Introductions Sessions held at the University of Malta, that the new routes for Malta where planned out by Transport Malta! Arriva where only in charge of the Gozo Routes.... Hmmmmmm
Carmel Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 14:42
The PM should sell these big coaches and tender for the smaller kind more in line with our roads using clean petrol or LGP. We need publictransport to go from our villages to Valletta and Sliema again and we need them to get to work. So PM listen to the people or you will be out of a job soon.
E. Azzopardi
Jul 7th 2011, 14:36
It was a big mistake to guarantee a ten year job to the previous inefficient drivers. So, partly the government is also to blame in my opinion. With all due respect to the CEO, no one knows better than his people who have been based in Malta since last year. What can he do about it? I firmly believe it was also a mistake to call him.
His people should have been given time. Although it is a German Company, the British are in charge of the Malta side.
Steve Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 14:35
Come on, yesterday I wanted to catch a bus from Haz-Zebbug. I arrived at the bus stop at 11.40...20 minutes later and no bus had yet showed up. Other commuters were frustrated and I heard them speaking, stating that some passengers that same morning waited an hour and a half for a bus to pass.
Not with standing this, I just got up and walked it all the way to Marsa Interchange terminus to catch a bus to Valletta. In 30 minutes I arrived, all sweating and thirsty, and on my way I only sighted 1 bus that was heading to Siggiewi. So I arrived to Marsa from Zebbug in 30 minutes by bus, while passengers waited on the Zebbug stop for at least an hour!! Unbelievable
I was really looking forward to the bus reform. I was eagerly waiting for 3rd of July to arrive. From what I have seen and experienced, I am really disappointed :(
And come on, Arriva chose to start to operate at the worst time of the year - July - pick time for tourists too
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And PLEASE re arrange bus routes 11 and 41. Now commuters who catch the bus from Cirkewwa, Mellieha and St. Paul's Bay who need to travel to Valletta have to waste at least 20 minutes going round Bugibba and Qawra!! Imsieken l-Ghawdxin............we want to arrive from A to B in the shortest time possible and not go sight seeing. Also all buses approching Bugibba and Qawra are alomost all the time FULL UP, so anyone who wants to catch a bus from Bugibba and Qawra to Valletta is left STRANDED in the sun!!
With Arriva we now have route 11 ( Valletta to Cirkewwa via Sliema ) and 41 ( Valletta to Cirkewwa via Mosta) which both pass from Bugibba!!
Bring back bus routes no. 49 (Qawra - Valletta) , 48 ( Cirkewwa to Qawra) and 645 (Sliema to Cirkewwa) !!!
It now takes me 1 hour and 30 minutes to arrive to Valletta from Xemxija...unbelievable, its crystal clear that whoever came up with these routes never used the buses himself!! If things remain how they are, I rather walk it or bike it instead...who knows, I may get runned over and I make headlines the following day in all newspapers
Bring back the old routes!!! The old routes were fine...what we needed were new buses, efficiency and reliability
Mr Michael Debono
Jul 7th 2011, 18:48
The old routes had years of experience behind them. Why Arriva had to draw its own routes without experience.
They most probably had in mind financial goals and decided to economise.
Chris Spiteri
Jul 7th 2011, 14:35
Its true that those 70 bus drivers that didn t turn up to work caused some problems, no doubt about that. But what about the IT system, the digital signs found on board these new buses and 2 buses meeting simultanously in a narrow street? What a shame that today ARRIVA decided to start putting card numbers... and what about the planning of the routes, someone seems to missed out big time. I wonder what would have happened if Malta had to introduce either the tram or metro system... Hmmm, seeing all this, I m sticking to my private car!!
Frank Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 14:34
@ David Martin, CEO
Please allow me comment in an objective way re the present ‘service’ rendered to the Maltese commuters by Arriva.
Many surely agree that before planning a bus route system, one should study the needs, culture and expectations of the cohort towards whom the route system is addressed. It is a very serious short sight to use a bus route pattern/system without paying heed to these indicators.
Unfortunately, whoever planned the present route system simply ‘imposed’ the pattern, which may be suitable to large cities but definitely not to a small island like Malta. In other words he did not do his/her homework.
Changing three buses to go to certain localities is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Waiting for hours for a bus is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Having to change buses (especially to Mater Dei) over relatively short distance is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
The Maltese way of life demands:
i. direct service to Valletta and back from and to every town and village as we used to have,
ii. direct service to Mater Dei as we used to have ,
iii. frequent bust stops in strategic points within the village/ town as we used to have.
Mr David Martin, the buses are great, the drivers are wonderful. All that is needed for the success of Arriva in Malta can only be guaranteed by the reintroduction of the old route system.
The present route system ,at best can be at best described as short sighted,
disrupting, chaotic and insensitive
Finally, I implore you to pay heed to our needs by reintroducing the old route system for the benefit of all stake holders.
Thank you.
Ms F Goodwin
Jul 7th 2011, 15:30
A very constructive comment, prosit. Perhaps you could find some way to send this directly to Arriva?
I strongly agree that every village should be able to access Mater Dei directly, without changing buses. On any other route it's not a big deal as long as the buses are running regularly, but if you need to go to hospital, chances are you're not in fit condition to be boarding and disembarking multiple buses...
I don't think we need to return to the old routes completely, as some villages will actually be serviced better with these routes. We do need a change to the current routes though.
James Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 21:30
I agree with your comments 100%. A very very fair comment. Prosit and thanks for posting it. Hope that those who should listen are seeing such criticism.
Franco Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 14:27
RE TERMINUS IN VALLETTA....
I am no expert but the way the bus bays have been designed in Valletta are not practical... each bus has to reverse to leave it's bay. Hopefully no one will be run over!
If it was designed in a circular pattern like Rome's Termini I think it would have been better.
Actually the old one was circular too.
J Cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 14:26
Arriva - NON ARRIVA......what a better way to start this new era in public transport
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 14:25
What have the PM and Austin to say about the almighty mess TM made with the new routes? Or are they after foreign blood? This truly is a case of cwiec Mlatin.
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 14:21
The routes seem to have been developed on the lines of government departments where one is directed from one office to the other only to finish where one had started! So they must have been set by Maltese.Re arrange the routes and most of the problems will be solved.
Charles Micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 14:20
A question to the Prime Minister to follow up with Arriva....!
Why on earth have the same 66 drivers that are known to one and all to be trouble makers and some of which were the leaders of the 2008 bus strike were re-employed with Arriva?
If anyone from the HR's at Arriva followed their CV's prior to engadging them, 90 of the problems that Arriva had to face in the first 5 days of the service would not have occured!
It is as simple as that!
krystle micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 15:26
bhalma il-gvern qed jistenna li l-arriva timxi skond il ftehim li hemm miktub fil-kuntartt ix-xufiera stennew hekk ukoll! mela mhux nkomplu nhamguwom u nghidu li tort taghhom! illum huwa 5 jum ta servizz fejn ix-xufiera l-antiki kecciethom u gabet il-barranin fejn ilom joperaw 3 ijiem!! pero xorta ghad hemm il-problemi? IVA mela mhux l-ex xufiera problema imma l-Arriva u min mexxa fil-ftehim
Paul Micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 14:17
Shelters from the weather. This is the biggest joke. In Marsalforn in the area of the bus stop there is a big hole in place of the shelter. I saw people balancing on the very edge to avoid falling in the pit.
Franco Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 14:12
"Once we start operating in July 2011, Malta is going to benefit from a reliable transport service, a convenient new network, real time passenger information and trained helpful employees. Noticeable differences from day one will include; comfortable buses with air conditioning, more buses provided in the peak to maintain reliable and even headway for customers, and proven technology providing more passenger information than ever before.”
Arriva Malta Managing director, Keith Bastow
Paul Micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 14:11
Who was the cuc that made all this mess? Really hope not a maltese one but if he is I give Tonio Fenech full marks for the Air Malta appointments
Carmel Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 14:52
And now the pilots are going on strike and the airline might fold up because nobody listens to the people!! Without an airline we are at the mercy of foreign predators as before 1973 until there is a change of goverment and the formation of a new airline. The maltese have got used to their annual holiday or two abroad.
Mr john vella
Jul 7th 2011, 15:09
Paul between a cuc and a cuc you could not have said it better.
Hon. Minister Tonio Fench M.P. NP., please take note!
Mr Adrian Borg Cardona
Jul 7th 2011, 14:01
Now we have language discrimination on the buses too! A colleague of mine from New Zealand, on stepping onto the bus this morning was asked to pay €2.30 for the trip. My colleague replied that he should be paying less. He was asked for his ID card. He did not have his local ID with him (he has one). My friend asked the driver why he was asking only him for his ID card as the driver had not asked the other passengers. My friend is blond and very fair skinned.. The driver replied: "Can you speak Maltese"? My friend replied no but that he works here, pays taxes here, etc. The driver would have none of it and told him to pay up or leave. The moral of the story is: if you are blond, better learn some Maltese quickly. And also, now I know why, when driving, I get stuck for a long long time each time a bus stops - driver checking ID cards.
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 7th 2011, 14:15
Adrian: "To take advantage of the fares listed below you must (present) and carry your ID card at all times when travelling". Simple, really.
Alan Cordina
Jul 7th 2011, 14:17
I just hope this story is not true !
Adele Mintoff
Jul 7th 2011, 14:25
Utterly ridiculous!!! C'mon Arriva ! This was a long awaited change on the island, please do not turn it into a nightmare.
Mr D Psaila
Jul 7th 2011, 14:33
There would have been no problem if he had been carrying his ID Its probably easier to carry and ID than learn Maltese. I understand, that if an inspector had checked his ticket and he would have been unable to present his ID, he would have been fined. However this is probably something for the future as presumably with all the problems they haven't got to the stage of checking that people have bought the right tickets.
E. Azzopardi
Jul 7th 2011, 14:40
Those who are using the buses did not read all the material given to them or search on the internet as regards Arriva. It is written that you must carry your ID card or the Kartanzjan with you so that you show it to the driver when he asks for it. He asked for it and it was not shown to him. It is useless for it being in a drawer at home. The driver was absolutely correct. But then it is in us to complain and grumble. Let us all move into this century shall we?
Ms F Goodwin
Jul 7th 2011, 14:59
While he should have had his ID card, the fact that only the blond was asked for ID looks REALLY bad. Are they going to judge African people in the same way? At what point does it become racial discrimination, because this person was clearly treated differently because he's Caucasian. I think they need to abolish the two-tier price structure ASAP. Hopefully Brussels will chime in soon enough.
Joseph Sammut
Jul 7th 2011, 15:13
Another moral of the story is: an ID card is to carry with you, blond or not and don't blame someone doing his duty for not carrying it with you, no matter how fair your skin is!
Mr Tony Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 15:52
When I was in Malta a couple of years ago I traveled to Sicily without being asked for the passport; I don't have an ID card, so would I have to show my Maltese Passport to board a bus in my old country?? Next we might need a pass from the Police Station to go from one village to the next !!!! :-(( or maybe :-))))))))))))))))
Jiena nikellem bil-Malti sewwa, tahsbu li-jejn?
Ritianne Abohason
Jul 7th 2011, 16:29
This is mostly what is causing the disruption in the service i.e. drivers selling tickets and checking for IDs. All of you who have travelled abroad know that the drivers in other countries don't sell tickets, don't check IDs and don't even check whether you have a ticket or not. You buy tickets from a ticketing office or tobacconists/post offices in every village. When you're on the bus, you just hold the ticket in front of another machine and voila! No one has to wait for you until you've gone through all the niceties with the bus driver. Bus drivers don't even have to be polite because you don't have to speak to the driver at all during your voyage! All they're required to do is drive the buses (frequently I might add) from Point A to Point B. I think if you wanted a service 'bhal ta barra' we should have adopted everything they do 'barra'.
If we have to be sure that everyone is paying for his trip and not taking a free ride, at least we could have a system where the bus driver is shown the ticket only, not him having to sell tickets and check ID Cards/Kartanzjan/Passports!
Mr Adrian Borg Cardona
Jul 7th 2011, 18:56
When I said to my friend that he shiould have his ID card at all times, his reply was; is this a police state? How right he is! In which country are people asked to present their ID card when boarding a bus? Ridiculous! Also the comment from Mr Goodwin is correct - only the colour of your skin will determine whether Arriva asks you for your ID card or not.
S. Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 13:57
The real flaws with this system are the routes themselves which with few exceptions are unusable as an efficient and alternate means of transport for anyone who cannot spare 2 hours going from A-B and another 2 hours going back! Basically most of the routes try to serve God and Mammon and end up serving neither... other than being cheap tourist scenic routes. Whoever dreamt them up needs a good rap on their heads.
The present problems caused by driver no shows and the to-be-expected teething problems are, I believe transient. They will be resolved.
Joseph Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 14:36
I tend to have a qualified agreement here. The routs may need tweaking. However the new routes reflect reality better in the sense that they avoid the systema of linking everywhere to Valletta only. Perhaps the Local Councils may join up an provide electric minibus service to join the village cores to the main routes. CPPS funds by MEPA and EU funds can be tapped. The main hurdle here is getting the local councils to work together.
We as commuters need to get used to changing busses. That too is dificult and a culture change.
A Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 13:55
Arriva plc is a multinational public transport company owned by Deutsche Bahn and headquartered in Sunderland, United Kingdom. It has bus and/or rail operations in the Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.
Please don't keep blaming the British for this cock up. It's a German company
Anthony Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 14:30
Quite right. I am sick of privatisation.
I look forward to the day when nationalisation occurs again.
It is a pity that the bus drivers gave up last year without much of a struggle. They were the bedrock of transportation on these islands, although trannsport in Gozo needed improvement. I had hoped that they would look to take on the ability to transport us effectively around the islands. They were a bit arrogant but thet were overun by work especially in peak hours.
New routes around the islands could have been developed to keep the tourists happy.
We did need light fuel buses but not these monsters that we got!!! Hear that PM as in eighteen months there will be an election and I hope that public services will return to the public whether Brussels likes it or not.
U. D'Amico
Jul 7th 2011, 14:35
its a british company owned by a german company..
Mr Mark Demicoli
Jul 7th 2011, 15:02
the classic blinkers syndrome! What did Arriva deliver?????? Utter chaos that' what I see. Haven't seen so much confusion and lack of public transport from the last public transport strike we had a couple of years ago!
commenting on your points....
1. Drivers that are Human Beings -- AGREED although not all of them were that bad, the majority yes, but not all.
2. Comfortable Rides (Clean, New and Airconditioned) - comfortable ride after waiting for 3 hours in the blazing sun in "a state of the art" bus terminus which doesn't even have a place where to shelter from sun/rain --- Tal misthija!
3. We got rid of the old ORKS (refer to Lord of the Rings) 'Kings of the Road' Bus, Driver, Association, System and all. - AGREED as per point 1
4. Clean Running Vehicles. - Didn't the people driving their cars notice a change in the roads. --- about damn time, why did have to be a private company to remove the old buses + as far as I see it right now, the state is even worst for the environment with all the traffic jams that this chaos caused this week!
A Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 17:20
'its a british company owned by a german company.'
Well yes......that makes it German.
A Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 17:44
@U. D'Amico
Did you have a hand in planning the routes?
Tarcisio Bonello
Jul 7th 2011, 13:50
Come on people - So not everything is perfect - and yes some people didn't do their job well but let's say that the system is up and running well by Monday am - One week over the last 40 years isn't that bad.
In the meantime we have already gained:-
1. Drivers that are Human Beings
2. Comfortable Rides (Clean, New and Airconditioned)
3. We got rid of the old ORKS (refer to Lord of the Rings) 'Kings of the Road' Bus, Driver, Association, System and all.
4. Clean Running Vehicles. - Didn't the people driving their cars notice a change in the roads.
5. Bad Attitudes - even the GWU agrees for heaven's sake.
All this in under a week.
And yes we do need to revise the new routes but there are some very good new ones and people need time to adjust and discover the new ones >> Did everybody sincerely think that we were going to get it right the first time??? - I for one didn't expect so.
So - Well done Austin and well done Arriva (you were under pressure and still delivered) Now improve your standard by Sunday and all will be forgiven.
Steve Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 14:58
I have to agree with your comment
Give arriva a chance for heaven's sake!
krystle micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 15:32
inti qed tghid li hafna mit-tort huwa tax-xufiera mela fhemni dawn l-affarijiet?
ghala destinations no. tal-coaches ma jahdmux?
ticket machines ma jahdmux
hafna coaches qed jieqfu idahnu!
issa lum huwa l-5 jum tas-servizz u mit tlieta li ghadda gew xufiera godda min barra flok l-antiki!
jiena fl-istess sitwazzjoni qed narani mela mhux xufiera l-antika l-problema
Mike Micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 13:49
I have purposely delayed commenting to avoid a knee jerk reaction to the initial teething problems which were only to be expected. At this stage there is only one comment I need to make - DISASTER!
When the end of the world was predicted for this year, I did not realise it would take the form of a public transport reform, which took something bad and made it worse.
And I am not referring to delays...I am judging on the basis of the service as it should be, where travelling time has been increased, albeit supposedly in more comfort. No provision seems to have been made for peak and off hours, and journeys have taken a leaf out of the Beatles hit, LONG AND WINDING ROAD....
Congratulations!
E. Azzopardi
Jul 7th 2011, 14:43
Stop complaining and being negative. They have said that they will be studying the situation during the first six months and change things around for the better. I bet you ALWAYS do everything right the first time.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 7th 2011, 14:52
Or even THE WHEELS ON THE BUS DON'T GO ROUND AND ROUND !
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 7th 2011, 15:23
And the second line children ALL....KING>>>>LONG
Anthony Roberts
Jul 7th 2011, 13:44
Why would you want them to distant themselves, they are the ones who introduced the idea. I am still waiting for my direct route to Mater Dei, but I suppose I will be too old or too ill to travel by then - I am 81 now, so who really cares!!!!
Mr Jeffrey Mallia
Jul 7th 2011, 13:32
Just the usual propaganda from the PM's mouth.......Because we had th guts to change the system after 30 years................high bloody time after 25 years of ruling this rock.........Each & every entity which had been privateised under this incompitent Govt, was unbeneficcial to all the generag public.............We're just sick of it all.
jack bristow
Jul 7th 2011, 13:26
Apart from courage to start the new system, the primeminister should have the"guts" to adress this situation without further delay as all this, is, but only describable in one only way ~ UNACCAPTABLE!
If Arriva is uncapable to take the deal, tell them to pack up & LEAVE.
Mr Daniel Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 15:02
Then again that's why we don't succeed. Because we GIVE UP. Try for once to appreciate that someone had the guts to actually alter the whole system to a clean and more comfortable one. I would like to see you choose in the middle of August at 14:00 Hrs between the old buses and the new.. All just for 1 - 2 weeks sacrifice for the system to kick in properly. It was the same with the euro, the local wardens, and many more.
Fran Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 13:25
Billie Watson - you are quite welcome to take the old buses - together with the drivers - back home with you !
Angela Bell
Jul 7th 2011, 13:23
I agree with everyone who has said that it is the new routes that are causing the problems not the drivers/buses. The route from the ferry port needs to be adjusted as people from the north of the island cannot get on the buses to go to the hospital.
I suggest Austin Gatt has his car taken off him for a week and travels on these new routes (without any media ) and see how all the local people are suffering.
Look at statistics and I am sure that by this time next year there will be many more cars on the road as people ditch the buses altogether.
So a challenge to the Minister get on the buses and see for yourself,and not just on one from Valletta but from villages.
B. Pollacco
Jul 7th 2011, 13:18
nahseb kul min qed jikkumenta kullhadd juza tal-linja !
Philip Hili
Jul 7th 2011, 14:49
@ B. Pollacco
Sur Pollacco, taf meta nibda' nuzh tal-linja? Meta nkun cert li qieghed fuq l-istage, nistenna tal-linja u din f'xi hin tigi ghax xi uhud mix-xufiera mhux l-ewwel darba li flok jghaddu mir-rotta li suppost jghaddu, imorru "short cut" u jhallu hafna passigieri jistennew fuq l-istage!
Jew inkella meta x-xufier jaqdi dmiru lejn il-passiggieri u jahdem ir-rotta u mhur imur jaghmel xi vjagg extra u jhalli l-passiggieri jistennew!!! Meta dan jispicca, imbaghad nuza tal-linja.
Peter Bonnici
Jul 7th 2011, 15:28
Sur Pollacco Ma hemmx ghalfejn tuza tal-linja biex tikkummenta. Sens komun u li tghix f'Malta hu bizzejjed biex tasal ghal soluzzjoni ragunata li sfortunatament kumpanija internazzjonali bhal Arriva ma kienitx kapaci taghmel ! Din hi inkompetenza GRASSA u ta min jistmerra.
L-aspettativa tal Poplu Malti, li jkollu servizz ahjar milli kellu wara hafna weghdiet, ma' ntlahqitx. Mela tlaqna minn servizz antik u rrigressajna f'wiehed inefficjenti u ta' ghajb. Hemm ghalfejn tuza t-trasport pubbliku biex tasal ghal dawn il-konkluzzjonijiet ?
Philip Hili
Jul 7th 2011, 23:53
@ Peter Bonnici
Kemm tixtieq li ghadna bhal ma ddiskrevejt int!!!
Peter, meta wiehed ikollu agenda mohbija ma tistax titkellem bhal ma tkellimt int.
X'garanzija ghandek li dawk ix-xufiera li ma dahlux ghax-xoghol ghamlu hekk mhux bi HSIEB? Kieku dak li gara ma kienx pre-meditat kieku ghala gabu dawk l-iskuzi infantili, bhal ma jridux jahdmu ghal 35euros, jahdmu 48 siegha, u hafna banalitajiet. Mela dawn ma kienux jafu ghal xiex dehlin qabel bdew it-training????? .Hallina Man!!!!
Li hu zgur hu li riedu jqarqu bil-kumpanija u sa certu punt irnexxielhom pero' il-Malti jghid "min jidhaq l-ahhar jidhaq l-ahjar"!!!!
Maruska Agius
Jul 7th 2011, 13:15
Mhux hekk Sur Gonzi!! Wehhel kollox fix-xufiera hux... facli nnehhu l-balla minn fuq saqajna u nitfawha fuq saqajn haddiehor|
George Tabone
Jul 7th 2011, 14:15
hu ma qalx li l problema kienet biss fix xufiera imma qal li ix xufiera ghazlu li ma jidhlux ghax xoghol u din kienet decizjoni irresponsabbli.
zgur li saret b'vendikazzjoni imma jiddispjacini nghid li dawk ix-xufiera issa qed ibatu l konsegwenza ta snin twal jaghmlu li jridu u minghalihom li ma jista ghalihom hadd...BRAVI, BRAVI TASSEW
krystle micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 15:38
proset marouska!
@ george tabone :- bhalma il-gvern qed jistenna li l-arriva timxi skond il ftehim li hemm miktub fil-kuntartt ix-xufiera stennew hekk ukoll! mela mhux nkomplu nhamguwom u nghidu li tort taghhom! illum huwa 5 jum ta servizz fejn ix-xufiera l-antiki kecciethom u gabet il-barranin fejn ilom joperaw 3 ijiem!! pero xorta ghad hemm il-problemi? IVA mela mhux l-ex xufiera problema imma l-Arriva u min mexxa fil-ftehim
u dawk ix-xufiera issa qed igawdu somma li qed thallas int l-ewwel wiehed mit-taxxi aktar int qed tbati milli huma
Peter Busuttil
Jul 7th 2011, 13:10
Does one have to be a rocket scientist to understand that canopys, shelters or whatever, are a MUST to protect oneself from the sun, especially during the summer months?
Roberta Sciberras
Jul 7th 2011, 13:08
We've heard of 30 and we've heard of 60 and of 56 and now of 70. Exactly how many drivers did not report for work. And haven't they been substituted by 55 foreign drivers... or was that too chimeric.
And please remember that Arriva's reaction when the drivers protested at their rosters on Saturday was - leave your uniforms here and don't come to work. So exactly who was bluffing?
Of course that is only if for one minute you accept that this whole mess is the fault of missing drivers. It is not and Arriva knows it as does the Minister and the Prime Minister. Please stop treating us like morons.Who will be compensating the Maltese public for this hardship and frustration?
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 13:07
Arriva has shown a total lack of understanding of Malta from DAY 1.
It was obvious as soon as Keith Bastow said that 'roadsworks only last a day or two'. This is Malta not Japan so such a comment was extremely unrealistic and a sure sign of living in fantasy land.
The routes are NOT suited to Malta. The concept of concentric routes are applicable abroad when one lives in a city and does all his errands in that area. But this is MALTA so one has to go through several route systems just to get from A to B. The time where 2 people living in that village got married and kept living there is long gone. Today one lives in the North and works in the South or vice versa.
I am personally very disappointed that Arriva tried to 'force' a foreign concept on Malta without bothering to note the implications and the relevance to our island. This goes to show how much they really understand us.... or care about us. Indeed this is turning out to be a disaster that will have massive repercussions if it's not tackled IMMEDIATELY.
Your response is welcome to my comment if you think you can prove me wrong.
Tony Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 13:07
Beg to differ Mr. Prime Minister...the source of the problem is not the fact that 70 odd workers did not show up (although this did not help) but and it's a very big but the new routes. A trip from Mosta to Mellieha is taking one hour instead of the usual 30 minutes....hence in the time that this bus should have made 2 trips (there and back) it is making only one. My question is.....who designed the new routes? Who ever he/she was must tender their resignation now!!!!!
Carmel Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 14:44
I agee but the minister responsible should follow suit for listening to such poor advice from his confidantes.
Mr mark johnson
Jul 7th 2011, 13:04
Malta - the only country with 360,000 local transport experts.
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 7th 2011, 14:16
413,000 ;)
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Jul 7th 2011, 14:27
Not experts but sufferers. There are those who are suffering because they use public transport, there are also those who are using private cars but suffer because they roads are more congested than before. Those who stay at home need not bother.
What type of transport do you use ?
A Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 14:31
You are dead right Mr Johnson! We have suffered it long enough. The consumer is more qualified than anyone and more of an expert to say what works and what doesn't. All these TM terrific route planner people go to work in their flaming cars!
Mr Philip Grech
Jul 7th 2011, 14:37
....and with all these transport experts, this reform was left in the hands of an expert in student stirikes ( mind you, not now, but under a labour government)
Joseph J. Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 14:40
Yet unable to read the information that the bus company sends in the mail, because why inform yourself when you can waste the bus drivers time with 20 questions every time you board the bus?
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 14:49
Thank goodness you're here to provide welcome comic relief.
Mr Daniel Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 14:57
Well said. About time someone pointed that out!
Isola Danti
Jul 7th 2011, 13:02
Since there are so many complaints and questions about the new routes which may be part of the cause of delays, the new routes should not be revised in 6 months but to start now. Transport Malta should send out their people right away to collect and analysis all the routing problems and begin to work on it.
Carmel Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 14:46
I agee start to-day but consider returning the fleet of buses in exchange for smaller ones more suited to our roads than Continental Europe.
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 7th 2011, 12:56
I hope that the PM and Austin Gatt will distance themselves from this mayhem. Ther new routes are not suitable and the genius who came out with them should be made to resign and be interdicted for life.
There was nothig wrong per se in the old system. It was the quality of busses and arrogance of the drivers.
We need direct routes. Valletta with the Law Courts and Govt Depts is still a hub. Why should we, from st Pauls' Bay go on a grand Malta tour to reach our destination. Why is the classican Bugibba area so badly served, as the distant stops only take you back to Qawra. Why do all the busses exit from the Qawra end and not through Bugibba. Why is there a new stop just round the corner from Bordino Street, only some 15 meters away?
If you want to introduce new routes do so bit by bit, but do not remove the old routes (such as 49) that was so covenient.
Please rember that St Pauls' Bay and Bugibba has become a retirement area. many aged couples have moved into small flats that used to be summer residences. Old people cannot be expected to walk long distances. come rain or shine.
So Once aqain, the PM and the Minister should admit that someone let them down. I am not blaming them, so long as they admit that they had been misled and give back certain rirect and quick routes.
Mr Ray de Bono
Jul 7th 2011, 13:27
Well put Mr. Said.
Ramon Mangion
Jul 7th 2011, 13:31
Well I do not think that will be anytime soon as Arriva already sent out various mail shots etc... and changed signage at bus stops. That would mean more costs to them to retrain drivers and change this stuff hehehe
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 12:54
The main complaint by the commuters seems to be the new nonsensical routes prepared by some genius at TM. An example; Do you want to go to Mosta from Zabbar? according to an Arriva flyer received yesterday:
Take number 91 to Floriana then take 31 or 91 to Paola then take x3!!
Incredible! So 91 passes through Paola on its way to Floriana. Why not alight at Paola and get the x2 without going to Floriana?!
BRING BACK THE OLD ROUTES FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!
Mario Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 12:54
The best name that suits best this new service though I wonder why it wasn't called "SMART Arriva Service" is "Arriva, Arriva non Arriva".
There shouldn't be any excuses of any sort after a year's study. Neither any teething problems. This is a monopolised service, so it should run with 99% efficiency and offer if not a high standard but at least a good service as abroad.
Not to mention the fact that this company is not managed by 'Ċwiċċ Maltin'!!!
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 7th 2011, 13:36
Yes I think Cwiec Maltin. IN your opnion who is Transport Malta not Cwiec Maltin? they lived here all their lives and still made a mess and Arriva is taking the blame.
Rita Smith
Mr E. Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 14:41
So Dear Mr. Camilleri, so now Maltese, English and Germans are all Cwicc. I wonder why most of these who write on this blogg don't go for the next election as candidates maybe at last we see a bunch of clever Cwicc in parliament and our beloved nation will be running 'fuq ir rubini'
D. Xerri
Jul 7th 2011, 12:54
Yes those bus drivers that stopped working did give Arriva a hard time - everyone knows that but most factors of failure could have been avoided with some common sense - Why stop a whole schedule and start anew the next day ? The New Arriva buses should have been introduced periodically example 30 new arriva buses on the road every week for a total of 12 weeks so as to say - that way the old service would have intertwined with the new one - Even the Numbers allocated to locations did a whole confusion where most numbers should have been kept the same - another thing is the waste of time most people are experiencing having to go to different locations out of the way to get to their destination - and were talking about a 30 mile island go figure if our island was 300 miles - on a same scale of error people would have to wait 10 hours at least to get on a bus - about the shelters a proper shelter should have been made in Valletta ahead of the start of arriva operating where especially old people and people with children can sit down protected from heat and rain - but I guess the Valletta bus shelter will come nicely some months before the election with celebrations and so much joy. Another thing I totally dont agree with Arriva is the way tourists are being charged for fares - when the maltese go to London we pay the same as every other british resident - its a turn-off for tourists when we should be encouraging more tourism to Malta.
Mr S Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 12:54
It is unbelievable how the PM blames those sixty persons who were fighting for their rights, only because their contract was not honoured from behalf of Arriva.
I was talking to one of the bus drivers who did his training and is not one of the old buses ex-driver and he was telling me that during his training period he was trained on 13 different routs,UNBELIEVABLE when given his work schedule he was assigned on different routes than those he was trained on! When he asked Arriva personel to give him routs he was familiar with, obviously good for himself and for the public, they refused! Do you consider this professional Mr Gonzi? If the Maltese old bus owners did something like this everyone would be accusing them of irresponsabilities and unprofessionality BUT FROM ARRIVA I DO NOT ACCEPT THIS CRAP! Besides this driver who on the 3/7/2011 did report to his duties was not able to go to the toilet for over 4 hours let alone eat or drink. Are these the conditions Arriva offered the Mlatese workers?
This person terminated his employment on the same day he started and today is on our registration records and again on Social Benefits!!
My daughter waited for 2 hours yesterday in the sun for a bus from Sliema to Naxxar after work when she was tired and hungry, in the sun waiting without choice, and finally I had to go pick her up myself, and she paid a day ticket FOR NOTHING MR PRIME MINISTER. WHO IS GOING TO REFUND THE MONEY SHE PAID FOR NOTHING AND THE PETROL I WAISTED???
GHAR IVA!!!!
CHARLO' SAMMUT
Jul 7th 2011, 13:10
imsiken ux ?
Anthony Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 14:36
He only has himself to blame because he could not trust the Maltese to come up with a satisfactory solution. Bus drivers need to earn a living as well as the owners. I feel sorry that they did not put up a fight last year. The Maltese knew how buses ran and were they go and how they use them. I would not be surprised if one day the bus drivers just walk out like the pilots might do.
We Maltese have brains. Trust us and we can make it work. we might be blunt and obtuse at time verging on to rudeness but we know what is happening.
Mr S Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 14:56
@ Charlo Sammut
Imsieken ahna ghax dawk il-maggoranza jirregistraw qieghdin u jithallsu minn fuq dahar it-tax payer u tkunx sarkastiku jew jekk mhux jircievu beneficcju ghalissa, fil-futur qarib!!
Mario Grima
Jul 7th 2011, 12:52
This government cannot get one right. It's one mess after another, but the most astonishing fact is that no one is responsible or accountable for anything, notwithstanding the hardships the Maltese people who with the amount of taxes they pay through their noses should be treated better by this insensitive government. In the space of a few weeks we had three soap operas going on the Island,first we had the divorce issue wherein Gonzi went for an unnecessary referendum and now that the people have voted the PN is having second thoughts of honouring the people's majority vote. Then we had the undisclosed weekly payrise of €500 to all the cabinet and finally we had the bus service soap opera. Please do us a favour and go govern another Island in another platet and perhaps in another universe.
Paul Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 12:52
I hope that the CEO will see for himself that the bigger bendy buses are out of place on our small island. The bigger coaches are also too wide for out narrow streets.
The two smaller sized buses are what Malta and Gozo need. They can send the others back to China on a ship and sell them as unrequired or surplus stock/goods returned as being poor quality or unsuitable for the purpose.
Somebody should have got a couple of thes buses as samples to try on our roads before we bought last year for a trial run of two weeks. It would have been quite obvious that thay are not what we needed.
The bus owners could then have been told to form a federation to try and buy or get a loan on the newer buses until such time as Brussels coughs up some money to put into public transport.
I preferred the rude bus drivers wearing flip-flops, tee shirts and saints intermixed with the tatooes. At least I got somewhere within 20 minutes and not two hours.
Someone should point out to the CEO that we had over 550 buses, sometimes cramped with people in summer going to Ghadia, Golden Bay or Marsaxlok for a day and arriving in 30 minutes and not 2 hours! Now we have less than 200!
There were over 750 drivers, sometimes working long shifts with a day on and a day off. Now we have less than 500!
Minister terminate the contract now and get the old buses back before they are scapped. Tell Arriva to go home, return the unwanted buses and start to try to solve the problem again with the bus drivers, unions, owners and Brussels in gentlemanly talks.
Mr Ambrose Zahra
Jul 7th 2011, 12:48
Let's face it. In Malta we complain about the ways things are. When we change them, we complain that the old way was better.
Besides, we Maltese love to complain for the sake of complaining. Take Bugibba bus terminus and valletta bus terminus - there was never any real shelter there, and no one complained. Now everybody is up in arms about it. Get real people. There are more important issues at stake - like, where's my lunch?
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 13:08
Another armchair critic. Try catching the bus ambrose.
Michael Bruce
Jul 7th 2011, 13:29
Have you forgotten the beautiful row of big shady trees that were uprooted for this new bus station? Have you forgotten that you could wait inside the next bus to leave in the shade for upto 15 minutes? Have you forgotten the many kiosks selling very cheap cold drinks also offering shade? Or perhaps you were never waiting for a bus at Valletta last summer???
250 less drivers and 250 less buses, higher fares and paying for the park and ride - that is where the 50miliion euro saving for the Government over 10 years and Arriva´s expected profits are coming from!
The 56 drivers who quit and handed back their uniforms last weekend are well out of this mess and can earn better pay by helping out the very busy minivan Co-op !
Mr Peter Mercieca
Jul 7th 2011, 13:52
Finally an honest blog!! How people can continue to state that before was better and bring back th ethugs that dogged the old transport system is just crazy..... 3 days and we expect a utopic solution! Change comes with problems and those in turn create new opportunities for fresh perspective and (hopefully) better solutions - bringing back the old junkers is nonsensical to say the least. Enjoy your lunch!
Glen Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 14:09
You are right as no matter what happens there is always some that will complain... You are right aswell that there werent any shelters before but then people didnt have to wait sometimes 2 hours or even longer in the sun, its different..
Carmel Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 15:07
There was never a bus shelter but there were trees and you could wait on the bus even if you were told it was not going till later or to get on another bus. There was no bus shelter at Bugibba but who needed it when you got on the bus in just a few minutes.
You could get a drink as the next one was only 10 minutes away, now you dare not as it might be two hours away or never.
When I read that Arriva were taking over my heart sank as I knew from my days abroad what sort of service they offer and I was right. I just wish the election was to-morrow so that the next PM can sort out the problem.
K Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 12:47
Xi haga urgenti hemm bzonn li ssir fuq ir-rotta tal-Fgura in-Numru 91. Ma jistax ikun li rotta wahda trid taqdi 4 irhulha kbar bhal ma huma M'Scala, Zabbar, Fgura u Paola. Qabel mill-Fgura kienu jaddu 17, 18, 19, 20 u 21 u issa spicajna b'rotta wahda BISS (No.91). L-arriva qeghdin jintlew minn M'Scala b'detriment li meta jaslu Zabbar u Fgura jkunu diga mimlijin. Nissugerixi li ghandhom jinholqu 2 rotot godda (ex 92 li tkun titlaq minn Zabbar u 93 li tkun titlaq mill-Fgura). Dan isolvi drastikament il-problemi li qeghdin jaddu minnhom ta' kuljum ir-residenti tan-naha t'isfel ta' Malta.
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 13:02
Il Fgura fiha 12,000 ruh jghixu fiha. Ilu jinhass il bzonn li jkollha terminus taghha. L-iskuza kienet li kienet moqdija b'rotot ohra. Issa m'ghadhiex ghax kull ma jghaddi minn hawn hi il 91 li tghaddi mimlija.
Min fassal ir-rotot gadda jew ma joqghodx Malta, jew qatt ma resaq l-hawn jew qatt ma telgha f'tal linja. L-ismijiet farseski li nghataw certi bus stops juri li min ghamilhom ma kienx jaf x'qed jaghmel. Ezempju, l-istage ta' hdejn il ground tax Schreiber semmewh 'Xlajber"! Lanqas jafu li hemm ground! Ergghu aghmlu ir-rotot bhal ma kienu u kollox jimxi harir. Kull ma ridna karozzi sura, xufiera edukati u nodfa u hinijiet tajba. Il problemi qalghuhom it TM. Il bambin baghtilhom skuza bix xufiera li ma dahlux ghax xoghol imma hafna mill problemi xorta konna niffaccjawhom kieku dahlu kollha.
Adrian Cachia
Jul 7th 2011, 13:04
Il-frekwenza suppost tkun kull 10 minuti. Il-problema bhalissa li nahseb qed titlaq wahda kull nofs siegha!
Billie Watson
Jul 7th 2011, 12:44
One solution to all the Arriva problems and the absent drivers: PUT THE OLD BASES BACK ON THE ROAD, after all that is what we the British tourists look forward to see, well preserved beautiful leyland buses. You guys put your foot in it good and proper this time not amused. frequent visiter? not sure for how long.........................:-
A Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 13:00
I am sorry Ms Watson,( I presume you are a lady by the spelling of your name) You might come here for a week every year and go all gooey eyed at the ramshackle boneshakers that were our bus service, but try going to work on them every single day come rain or shine and it's no bloody joke I can tell you. If this kind of service were implemented on your arrival home in UK there would be anarchy!!
Some can be kept in service for the tourists to ride on and say ohhhhh and ahhhhh how sweet! That would free up the commuters service somewhat, but we have had enough of been thrown arround on white knucke rides. Drivers on the phone, writing in theior books, reading the paper, talking to their mates while not watching the road or eating pizza, and smoking and worst of all, talking to us like scum. You can have them dear. My pleasure!
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 13:13
Billie, ever tried living in a museum? Kindly don't confuse tourist attractions with practical items required for daily commutes. Then again the sensible solution would have been to have the new buses custom built to resemble the leylands that I agree are infinitely more beautiful than the boxes on wheels that arriva have.
Luke Desira
Jul 7th 2011, 13:17
so you used to come to Malta just to ride the buses? would have been much cheaper to buy one for yourself..
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 7th 2011, 13:44
Mr Billie Watson do go and tell Cameron to get you your old buses back in England. Maybe he will listen to you!. If that is why you come to Malta the see the preserves leyland buses, if they are preserved, I pity you. Well you can always go to Timbaktu if you wish but we Maltese want modern and suffecient public transport. I only hope that Arriva will at long last solve the problem otherwise the government have to substitute them with nother company.
Rita Smith
Billie Watson
Jul 7th 2011, 13:58
Well thanks for your reply Mr.camilleri, well, in that case i shall not be returning back to Malta, after all one of the reasons we visit your tiny Little island is exactly the very same reasons you so kindly put together for us to digest. Arrive/derci Malta
Isola Danti
Jul 7th 2011, 13:59
Ms. Watson, how about getting your local public transport company to buy the whole lot of our " well preserved beautiful leyland buses" to operate in your home town so that you folks won't have to take a flight all the way to here to enjoy them? Just an idea.
Mr Jimmie Rowe
Jul 7th 2011, 14:37
Ref< Isola Danti thanks thats a good idea, i see what i can do, now why haven't i thought of that eh? but in anycase we seen thew whole of Malta in one day its so small half an hour thats all it takes to go around the island (emmm NOT on your buses ofcourse silly)me i should have made that clearly, anyroad the way the sterling is going down hill and the exchange rate is not very favourable to my pocket, this time around what with the buses chaoes and all that, we shall holiday at home at least for the next few months, cause then we shall be flying out to gurnsey - tax free and no exchange rates. Tally HO.
A Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 14:39
Ms Watson, take one with you as a souvenir! But on one condition, you have to take the largest, smelliest, rudest driver with you to drive you ( I'm sure his wife won't miss him) to work every day and to the shiops and to your social functions. Friends may like you novel idea of transport.....for a short while.... but they won't be having an affair with your chauffeur for sure!!!!!
R. J Bernard
Jul 7th 2011, 14:55
As a Brit who lives on this 'tiny little island' I am embarrassed by the patronising and arrogant tone of this 'lady'. She appears to be one of those who believe that places like Malta only exist to satisfy the annual whims of a wealthy tourist.
Still, on the bright side, she promises never to return.
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 14:58
Billie..... Malta does not belong to Camilleri so only a fool would take his word to represent that of all Maltese. Having said that, your depreciating comment about Malta being a 'tiny little island' reveals a lot about the kind of tourist one needn't attract here.
Mr Slim Bartolo
Jul 8th 2011, 00:00
Yes i agree go now, and with you take as many British whingers as you can and leave us in peace thankyou verymuch. We Maltese can do just about anything and we definitly do not need foerigners as yourself to tell us what we can do and what we cannot do, the old days of Rule Britania is history and gone out the window years ago, so if you like OUR COUNTRY (in caps).you just have to accept us as you find us, no outsider should interfere with out politics. The problem with the Anglos they like to dish it out but they sure do not like it thrown back at them.
Ms B Cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 12:35
Go back to the old routes and numbers and all the difficulties will be solved once and for all. When I welcomed the bus reform I never thought they would change the numbers and/or the routes. The routes worked perfectly as they were, the only problem were the old cars and the old drivers. it doesn't have to be a big genius to understand this. I don't know why whatever changes in Malta, it has always to be so drastic.
Thank god that I have two cars to rely on.
Steve Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 14:39
Lucky you!!
I have no car as I am only a student and I am afraid but I have no choice but to use the buses
But mind you, if the bus service is relaible and efficient, I would delay myslef from buying a car, I don't want to add one more car to our already polluted and hectic roads!!
Mr Paul Licari
Jul 7th 2011, 12:30
It seems that ARRIVA have a lot to handle; breakdowns, drivers, accidents, long routes, no routes, erratic periods between runs, no runs, commuter stranding, etc...
It will not be easy to solve all these problems at once. Hope they do.
Until then, let us call it TARDIVA.
Clayton Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 12:43
ARRIVA, ARRIVA !!
ma quando ARRIVA? NON ARRIVA MAI !!!!!
Mr Carmel Farrugia
Jul 7th 2011, 12:30
Besides other problems there is the problem of the new routes which are now passing from roads that did not handle large coaches before. Therefore wardens should be deployed to make sure that no irregular parking is allowed on the routes as this is slowing down the buses particularly when turning narrow corners. Here is Sliema at the corner between the Strand and Manwel Dimech street, cars are being parked irregularly and buses sometimes need to wait for long minutes until the situation is cleared.
Alfred Grech
Jul 7th 2011, 12:28
Why not switch to the old routes and secondary routes could be handled by either smaller buses or (don't faint) by using some of the previous buses until the problems are permanently solved?
Mr Mark Zerafa
Jul 7th 2011, 12:24
Arriva.... taking us for a ride!
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 12:24
I do agree perfectly well with what our PM said on this.
Jeff Mead
Jul 7th 2011, 12:23
No need for the British uk based executive to investigate the ampteen complaints by the tourists and the public, i shall personally tell them myself, its no only diabolical but pathetic at the same time. Never again Malta . see U.
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 13:18
See you Jeff. Enjoy finding a country free of any problems whatsoever. One cannot blame you since Malta has nothing else to offer except riding buses aimlessly all day long. Sadly we don't have a single car rental company and taxis don't exist.
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 7th 2011, 13:47
The English complain everywhere they go. Maybe they want a free holidaya!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Rita Smith
Ms N Buttigieg
Jul 7th 2011, 12:17
After the first 5 days, the service is a complete disaster. This is the worst public transport service I have ever seen in Malta.
Ms Margaret Williams
Jul 8th 2011, 01:08
Ms Rita Smitie, well my girl i'm English (thank God and not a local thank Allah again) however if you are offering a free holiday i'll take you on thanks verymuch. Excuse my ignorance but we always thought that its the other way around, the Maltesers always want everything for nicks/gratis call what you will, still i accept a free holiday for now cheers, i solemnly promise not to complain or whing anymore ok. Ta.or is it ARRIVA Derci.
Mr D Psaila
Jul 7th 2011, 12:12
Its clear the new bus service is having problems but please don't blame Arriva for everything.
Buses have been meeting each other on Imrabat, Sliema (see photo and caption above) for a long time, the difference with the Arriva buses is that they pass each other quietly whilst the drivers of the yellow buses just sat with their hands on the horn. There are problems on Imrabat with or without buses because we also have construction vehicles, cranes, ignorant people who think it is okay just to stop their car and hold the traffic up whilst they chat to someone in a car coming from the opposite direction or who think they can park where they like, etc., etc.,
Malta has been short of bus shelters for a long time and the ones that were put up a few years ago are not fit for purpose.
Are Arriva responsible for designing the routes or Transport Malta? Should Arriva be blamed for that the routes designed by Transport Malta aren't fit for purpose?
The new bus drivers are surely doing their best under very difficult circumstances and they should be treated with some respect. It is not their fault if the routes aren't right or the computer software isn't working. Apart from the emergency foreign drivers they are our fellow citizens who are trying to their job and earn a wage like all the rest of us. They should be congratulated for what they have had to go through this week.
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 12:20
Well said.
Adrian Bonett
Jul 7th 2011, 12:33
I can't just agree more. All the blame is being given to Arriva. Who designed the routes? Who is responsible for them?
Mr R.E. Saliba
Jul 7th 2011, 13:27
D. Psaila, Patrick Zammit and Adrian Bonett..... please share the joke because it's really not obvious.
Even if Arriva didn't design the route, who forced them to use it? Did they blindly accept someone else's decisions? Don't they have the ultimate responsibility? As far as I know they plan to rake in all the profits so that makes them the ones to blame if anything goes wrong.
Jew paga ta' xejn iridu?
Michael Lloyd
Jul 7th 2011, 13:42
Who designed the routes, Mr Bonett? A British consultants business called Halcrow. Then they were looked at and amended by the Government - the old ADT (now Transport Malta). Arriva is not responsible for the routes. It is however responsible for ticket systems that don't work, information systems that don't work, air-con that doesn't work, buses that don't fit the streets and articulated buses which can't get up the hills near Melheia without the passengers getting out to reduce the load. And the long waits between buses, of course.
But cheer up, the drivers are very polite now, and that was really all that mattered to some people, apparently.
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 7th 2011, 13:49
Thumbs Up well said
Rita Smith
Mary Louise Cachia
Jul 7th 2011, 12:03
Nispera li s-Sur David Martin jipprova jaqbad tal-linja min Haz-Zabbar kmieni filghodu. In-numru 91 qed jitlaq minn Marsascala bi trakk mimli, qas dubbiena ma jkun hemm fejn tpoggi ahseb u ara persuna. Fir-rotta l-gdida, qed thalli warajha n-nies kolla ta Zabbar, Fgura u Paola, meta qabel kien hemm 17,18, 19 u 21 f'din ir-rotta u tal-linja xorta kienet tkun mimlija, ahseb u ara bi trakk wiehed x'ha naghmlu. ANDALE ANDELA ARRIVA!!
Franco Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 12:02
TO ALL THOSE SAYING "WHERE THERE BSU SHELTERS IN THE OLD TERMINI?"
DID WE EVER HAD TO WAIT 2 HOURS IN THE SUN TO CATCH A BUS?
J. Scicluna
Jul 7th 2011, 12:50
To all those saying, "Were there any shelters in the old Valletta terminus", including Minister Gatt yesterday on DISSETT...I ask, "WHY WEREN'T THERE?"
In this day and age one cannot immagine having the shortsightedness of NOT having shelters at bus termini and exchanges (which serve the sole purpose of allowing cimmuters to transit from one route to another) that are supposed to be operational throughout the whole year, irrespective of the weather conditions.
On the same lines, I and many others have also questioned why there are no covered bridges at MIA! This was not built eons ago so why where they not incorporated in the original design?
You would imagine that whoever designed the new termini and exchanges never traveled to other countries. It's not rocket science.....or is it?!
fabio cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 12:00
daqsekk arriva arriva......ASPETTA ASPETTA :) WICKED!!!!!
fabio cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 12:00
daqsekk arriva arriva.......
Mr Jonathan Calleja
Jul 7th 2011, 11:57
and what he can do?????
Perhaps a miracle ???
Mr M Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 11:55
I hope that Mr Martin will realise that the root of the whole problem are the new routes. These routes can be classified as sighteeing tours . I hope that he will give his go ahead to have the routes changed now and not in 6 months time. We Maltese need the service now !!
A person who commented on this website yesterday said that " The Consultants Halcrow, the people who planned the new routes, had published a report which said amongst other things that the Sliema routes were the only ones on the island to make a profit.
Knowing this why were these routes changed ? Who had the brilliant crazy idea of amalgamating them with other routes, so that all the buses arriving at Sliema are already full up ?
Why do all Sliema residents and the many tourists have to fight for a place on the Sliema bus at Valletta with whoever wants to go for a swim at Mellieha, with people who want to catch the Gozo ferry or whoever wants to go to Mater Dei or University ?
Why keep calling this a Sliema bus when it goes on a trip around the island ??
Give us back the old Sliema routes. Give us back the routes that can really be used by whoever wants to go to Sliema , and give them back to us now .
Victor Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 11:54
I will not hereunder try to be the defence lawyer for Dr Austin Gatt, I think he is able enough to do that himself.But as Ian Bugeja said , where were the bis shelters in the previous ermini?also we are shooting down the minister can anyone tell me how many comments were posted aganst the architect who designed the terminus and the ones who designed the interchanges? Unless of course a company of architectsin Norway designed them or for that instance one from northern germany? As for Dr Gatt I prefer to have the medicine straight out of the bottle like he dishes out then one with sweetener added and hardly works.
Mr Michael N Cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 12:48
Victor Vella The best thing for all is for Dr A.Gatt to get out of office and resign .
Alfred Grech
Jul 7th 2011, 11:52
The drivers that didn't show up on the first days definitely created a havoc but the route planning should have been done after proper consultation. Austin Gatt and his staff do not have the experience needed to plan such routes - bus drivers and some of the public could have been consulted.
The mess is obvious in many places. Yesterday, MDH parking was packed solid with many cars parked in the pathways and curbs within the parking lot. A Gozitan told me the Cirkewwa bus is now giving them a tour of Bugibba. He used to leave home at 5:30 am and now he has to leave home at 5:00 to make it in time for work.
Routes need to be planned by people who have experience and lots of common sense. It is not easy to plan routing in Malta but nothing is impossible if it's in the hands of knowledgeable and intelligent people.
The public cannot wait six months to see changes in the routes - these should be changed as soon as a better routing is decided upon or, better, should have been established BEFORE the service started.
Neville Bonavia
Jul 7th 2011, 11:52
Arriva are trying to justify their flop by blaming the drivers who did not report for work. Well, We aren't buying it!!!!. Today, I tried to use the Arriva buses from Zabbar to Valletta. I waited there between 7:15am-8:30am but not even a single bus turned out. Missing people does not justify an inexisting bus service.
So long Arriva, You need to regain your trust, and it's going to be a long time since I may consider to meet you again. You let many people down.
Mr Daniel Jones
Jul 7th 2011, 12:54
Missing people does not justify an inexisting (i assume you mean non-existent) bus service? Are you serious? I know we were promised a state of the art service but I don't think they have driverless buses anywhere in the world just yet.
Mr Alfred Dimech
Jul 7th 2011, 13:21
@Mr. Bonavia : Ghax bilhaqq bir-remote control qedghin ihaddmuhom il-buses tad-drivers li ma gewx. Habib, isma minni, tihom gimghatejn tal-Arriva ha jigu naqra f'taghhom imbaghad iddeciedi jekk tridx tkompli tuzahhom jew le. Tiftakar meta dahal il-VAT x'panic kien hawn l-ewwel xahar? U meta dahhlet l-ewro? Affarijiet bhal dawn bilmod. J'alla issa jisimghu mill-konsumaturi u jirrangaw x'uhud mir-rotot.
Mr Anton Portelli
Jul 7th 2011, 11:51
Hope he is shown where the system is failing and not try to impress that all is working like clock work!
Very often this is what is done in Malta when some high official or minister is shown around!
Martin Mangion
Jul 7th 2011, 11:49
i was not surprised that Minister Austin Gatt will stick to his decision and not be a canditate for the next general election. After this Grand Transport Fiasco, which of course he did not assume any responsibility one would be surprised had he changed his mind.
Image for a second he was managing a private business - the shareholders will come crashing down on him like a ton of bricks. But being a minister in the current governement - one questions accountability. Keep on smiling dear Prime Minister, the people out there will remember your smiles on election date.
Anthony Busuttil
Jul 7th 2011, 11:45
Welcome Mr Martin, hope you will have a pleasant drive in an AC bus, and on time, wish you lukck because so far we were the guiniepigs
Ian Bugeja
Jul 7th 2011, 11:41
But where where the shelters in the old terminus?
Phil Humphries
Jul 7th 2011, 12:10
The fact that there weren't any shelters in the old terminus doesn't mean that there shouldn't have been any. Anyway, if all else failed, you could always take cover under City Gate. - Oops ! - I forgot, you have to be a politician to get a roof over your head nowadays !
D. Xerri
Jul 7th 2011, 12:41
No-one complained about bus shelters before because you only waited from 5 to 15 minutes maximum to be on the bus NOT 1 or 2 hrs !
R. Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 11:41
From Siggiewi to Valletta use to take max 28 mins with the old buses. Now it take 1 hour for the same trip.
Thank you transport Malta and arriva. Do you call that a progress????
Very disappontented and hope for a better service, at least as before!!!!!
Charlot Bartolo
Jul 7th 2011, 11:49
Sheltering in what buses???... the buses used to be either closed or otherwise not fil-venda.
Have you ever tried to wait for bus 27 or 29 (Zejtun/M'xlokk) in the scorching sun of July or August for 2 hours.
That happened to me more than once last year and the year before. They used to miss their turn for any reason. The officer used to tell me, as usual, if you report it we would need your ID card so that you can take witness. As though losing 2 hours was not enough..
Lets give these people some time to get in line and hope (fingers crossed) that the service improves.
John Scerri
Jul 7th 2011, 11:34
6 weeks to put up a canopy ???...too much!!!
Do you out there still think we tax payers are idiots??
And yes Honourable Minister Austin Gatt....There were no canopies before..but people took refuge from the sun and the rain by entering buses ....what is there to laugh about on Dissett yesterday??
Trying to justify major infrastructural deficiencies and lack of project co-ordination by using escapism shows very poor management skills.
Franco Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 11:45
and the maximum time one had to wait was less than 30 minutes.... that is why the issue was never raised.... PLUS people use to stay behind the shops in the shadow where possible.
Still it would have been better if there were shelters on the old terminus too but people always hoped that once a new terminus is built it would incorporate some kind of shelter.
Din li dejjem nghidu "issa qed tgergru, qabel qatt m'ghidtu xejn" hija vera bla sens..... B'dar ragunament nistghu ma nippruvaw intejbu xejn u nhallu kollox kif kien qabel!
Mr Tony Bishop
Jul 7th 2011, 12:11
It only took a few hours to put up a conopy last Saturday so that they (Arriva & Gatt) can celibrate the Arriva take over.But next morning passingers had to wait in the scorching sun and still are.
E Gatt
Jul 7th 2011, 11:32
I am sure that Arriva have a wealth of experience to solve most of the issues, however I believe they should seriously consider:
• Shortening the six month period to review the routes and timetables.
• Catering for more buses during the morning and evening rush hour, and on Sundays in Summer in Malta’s tourist areas.
• Discouraging passengers buying tickets from the bus driver, and till people get used to the system, dispatching ticket sellers at main bus stops.
• Replacing the bendy buses, with others that fit in the bus stop bays, don’t block cross roads/zebra crossings at the rear of the bus, and that can turn round tight corners.
Mr Joseph E Briffa
Jul 7th 2011, 11:32
It's a downright shame. Why not enage what's left of the PWD labourers to set up this canopy? Why issue a call for tenders for such a small project? Direct labour should be used, make them work overtime and pay them. Or let them start at 5 a.m. and work till noon, including Saturdays and Sundays. In this day and age why should it take 6 weeks for a canopy? Aren't we ridiculous? Wake up Censu Galea. You can do better than that!
V. Cauchi
Jul 7th 2011, 11:31
There's one real problem: money. To keep fares low we had to have less buses, more frequent trips and more crammed routes putting out of sync passengers used to former routes. A rethink at national (not company) level would have to be made. Like, perhaps, taking the bendies off the road, bringing in some good old buses to supplement certain routes, and restyling the routes back to the old tracks and only GRADUALLY changing certain routes. I think we went too fast about the whole exercise, in a hot summer month when tempers boil and electronic systems go haywire, and with little think on Arriva's part on traffic realities in Malta. Problem is most of us want to "educate the populace" (nedukaw lill-poplu - I hate hearing this phrase, as if coming from a godlike creature) but better first learn how to keep our feet on the ground, and our ears too if we are politicians or churchmen, to Maltese de facto realities.
Mr John J Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 11:46
yeah......you should try `nedukaw il poplu` ....stop your car near a bus stop with more than 15 people that have been waiting in the sun for more than an hour for a bus that should pass exact to the minute! ......
Mr Christopher Briffa
Jul 7th 2011, 11:53
Well said, I fully agree with your assessment, the main problem we have in this country is that people in a position of power think of themselves as demi Gods and think that they are infallible and cannot make mistakes. They are too aloof on their pedestals and they cannot hear the cries of lesser mortals on the ground. Going back to the present transport fiasco, it is very obvious that the main problem is the silly and unworkable routes that are causing the problems and not Arriva per se. As far as I know these routes were designed by Transport Malta, maybe Arriva in their eagerness to sign the contract or due to the lack of knowledge of the local network accepted these routes blindly.
As for the striking drivers, they obviously did not help matters but if anything they presented Arriva and Transport Malta with scapegoats and an obvious easy target to mask their failures.
Franco Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 12:00
"To keep fares low we had to have less buses"
Ghax Malta biex nifdu l-ispejjez u naghmlu profitt dejjem irridu naghmlu prezz gholi .... flok naghmlu prezz irhis halli iktar u iktar nies juzaw is-servizz u finalment tispicca taghmel iktar profitt.
Franco Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 11:26
It's a good thing that the CEO is here BUT how would he know that a route that takes over 1 hour used to take just 20 minutes with the old system.
How can he judge that routes are uselessly longer?
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 7th 2011, 11:43
Franco - he does not care and shouldn't. The routes were designed by Transport Malta and are only OPERATED by Arriva. He wouldn't care if the buses go round and round mgarr at 3 AM if that is what they are contracted to do.
C Muscat
Jul 7th 2011, 11:26
I like local and national bodies like coptaco but the fault is not mainly of arriva but our management that decided to eliminate routes and make new routes go round and round without ending. the time from one departure to another is a farce because most of the busesleave already full and people are being treated like sardines. It is a disater from beginning to end. no light in the tunnel for many commuters.
Vanessa Walker
Jul 7th 2011, 11:21
I hope the CEO tries to go to the Airport from Bugibba (which does not pass from Luqa but goes to every other surrounding village!) or tries to catch a bus from St.Paul's Bay!
Mr A Spiteri
Jul 7th 2011, 11:20
"important thing was not the imposition of penalties" tajjeb ukoll u talli jaghddu min triq flok min ohra naghtum il mijiet ta eluf
Charles Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 11:41
Hekk hu. Triq Bisazza
Mario Desira
Jul 7th 2011, 11:18
So, before we are given yet another statement things are improving please note that today 7th July, four days after the new (dis)service started:
1 People in Qrendi on the bus stop at 0530 in the morning were left as usual without any buses. Only one to the airport showed up, eventually, the 0700 bus to the airport, were passengers want to go to work on time at Valletta were given an involuntary tour of the south of Malta before arriving late for work.
2 People in Kirkop were left on the bus stops as the buses were full up.
A complaint I emailed to Arriva got the automated response that my query would be addressed within 24 hours. 40 hours later, like the buses, no reply arrived.
Clarification about buses not stopping at the Floriana bus stops addressed to Transport Malta, published here in the Times comments, have remained unanswered. Perhaps one is asking too much – why should Transport Malta give a damn that passengers wanting to disembark at Floriana are taken to Valletta and made to walk back to Floriana?!
Keep it up guys! Rather than encouraging car users to opt for buses, you are convincing even die hard public transport users to abandon public transport!!
Ministry of Transport and Transport Malta should tell us what is being done about the imposed routes the public is up in arms against, instead of letting Arriva face the music on its own.
Alfred Gatt
Jul 7th 2011, 11:18
There were no bus shelters before but the need for them has been shown drastically this week. Let us hope they will soon be ready.
Mr Paul Caruana
Jul 7th 2011, 11:15
One of the main issues with the old system was its unreliability......this, more than anything else, turned off people from using it, turning instead to using private cars.
From what I can understand, unreliability is one of the issues affecting the new system as well. Basically, if Arriva, for whatever reason, is unable to deliver what it promised according to its detailed timetables as listed on its online website (with times given at specific bus stops down to the nearest minute no less!) within the next few days, then the new bus system is a failure.
In the days before the start, I always assumed that regarding public bus transportation, we where scraping the bottom of the barrel and surely things could not get any worse. However, if this level of unreliability persists beyond this week, Arriva would have managed the unthinkable: more than ever, the general public will be convinced that " issa u ghal dejjem, f' Malta b' tal-linja ma jaqbillekx!"
Victor Pulis
Jul 7th 2011, 11:13
The Valletta terminus is far from completed. If more shelters are set up it will end up looking like Hal Far's tent city! Meanwhile the long trips continue and even if the full compliment of drivers is reached these trips will remain long. That is one of the problems the company needs to look into because it's one of the major concerns of the commuters. The old routes worked just fine and we never heard complaints of areas which were unreachable by bus. If there are new areas that need a bus service let's provide them by all means but not at the detriment of old ones.
Fran Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 11:26
Now that they are setting up temporary shelts you are saying it is going to look like Hal Far's tent city. Is there no end to please you ? Agreed that some routes need to be changed. Are you serious when you say you never heard complaints of areas which were unreachable by bus ? All of a sudden some people seem to have forgotten completely all their complaints about the previous bus service. Come on guys and dolls, please give the system a chance and then complain by all means as you have every right to do but do also come up with suggestions too.
Victor Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 12:05
My Nation amazes me, we want the bus to drive us right to our front door(obviously without haveing other people wait for the bus on our doorstep) we want the busses go along the routes we want exactly and when we want tem.Come on people wake up to realities, if I had any say about itthere would only be bus stops at intervals of 500 meters and buses only go through main roads.Oh by the way, the 500 meters measurment would be kept even if it is infront of the ministers house.That way busses would not stop every 2 minutes and there would be an even distance for people to walk.For those living in outlying areas well you can allways take a connection bus which are now available tough luck that before you could take a direct service to Valleta which all of the Maltese were subsidising for you.
Daniela C Lia
Jul 7th 2011, 11:13
only now the call for tenders was issued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very proactive Minister Gatt
Fran Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 11:22
Who says the calls for tenders was issued now - do you have the actual date the tender was issued ? Do you know that a tender usually takes three months to be processed and then adjudicated ?
Mr Tony Gatt
Jul 7th 2011, 11:51
@ Frank Abela-
This Arriva changeover has been planned for months- surely someone could have seen the need for shelters before this, but I suppose it it as usual a last-minute thing.
Mr R ferriggi
Jul 7th 2011, 11:10
shortcomings are short comings,,,,,, failings are failings,,,,,, granted.
but allow me to say..........
THIS MORNING I SAW AN 'OLD' BUS FROM THE PREVIOUS SERVICE AND I CRINGED TO SEE IT BACK ON THE ROAD AGAIN.
SURPRISE SURPRISE,,,, IT HAD SOME ENGINE PROBLEM.
THANKS GOD FOR ARRIVA ,,,,, NO MATTER THESE INITIAL PROBLEMS.
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 11:17
Well, you can keep the arriva thing to yourself.
All we want is a service that at least is as good as the old one. But up to now (and in the foreseeable future), it WILL NOT BE BETTER. Take a look at the new routes and you will understand.
Mr A Spiteri
Jul 7th 2011, 11:21
surprise surprise and old bus had some engine problem
big surprise big surprise more that 10 new buses with low mileage and all stopped because of engine problems
thanks God for Arriva new busses with old problems
Fran Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 11:28
What was an 'old' bus from the previous service doing on the roads ? I thought government purchased all their licences for a 'mere' 100K ? Was it on the road without a licence ?
Mr John J Borg
Jul 7th 2011, 11:37
yes...when everything will work fine it will be a FINE WAY OF WASTING TIME
Dennis Zammit
Jul 7th 2011, 11:09
Not just sunny days but what about the winter?
Hope that the canopies are not installed in a puddle or in the path of a stream during the winter days.
Christina Pace
Jul 7th 2011, 11:06
I hope they will be also water proof as we also get rain in winter! and spring! and autumn! and guess what? :)) we get showers in summer sometimes too.
Should I carry on talking like i was addressing a 4 year old?
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 11:04
We cannot use certain words on this blog, but assure me, if I meet David Martin, he shall hear a lot about this "NEW" service. Cannot use the exact word to describe it, else I would be cencored.
A Cordina
Jul 7th 2011, 11:02
Hope the CEO gets a ride from Cirkewwa to Valletta...may God help him!
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 11:11
Is this CEO going to make the tour on his busses? Or in an airconditioned car with driver?
Stefan Enge
Jul 7th 2011, 11:19
Well. NOT Arriva planned the routes!
Mr C Cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 11:02
I've always said from the beginning that all of the drivers should have been sourced from abroad, possibly eastern Europe where the work ethic is more in keeping with delivering a professional service. The Maltese drivers really don't understand any of this and aren't qualified to be anywhere near the new bus fleet.
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 11:10
I had a trip with an English lady driver, and now that I heard her shrill, I prefer the old maltese drivers. At least they understood the need for a fast service.
jack bristow
Jul 7th 2011, 11:12
Go get a life! In Malta we have the right people & even more of it, its the managment that has to deal with its own mismanagment.
Mr Victor Laiviera
Jul 7th 2011, 11:16
You mean they have been trained to work for practically nothing and say thank-you.......
John Scerri
Jul 7th 2011, 11:24
i do NOT Agree ..you are by far very mistaken
The NEW Maltese bus Drivers are doing their best to cope with the confusion caused by the OLD Maltese bus drivers who dont give a hoot about their colleagues.
Apart from this they had to cope with heat rage , complaints, shouts, arrogance, grumbles, faults, bus breakdowns,
Yes I have faith in Maltese drivers...they are the best...they speak our language...they live here...their families live here ..they are one with us....
British drivers are here to substitute the rebel drivers and until more Maltese drivers are trained...they go back in a month
Joseph Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 11:43
@ Laiviera
In Malta the bus sitution was different - the drivers were assured a wage for not turning up or for providing an irregular service. But hey, so long as they could do part time! Of course, as Mr. Laiviers is wont to say, to praise anything now is tantamout to praising the government - so God Forbid.
The faults of Arriva should be tackeld immediately and without excuses. The back stabbing by the former drivers is one thisng. HOwever, software, engine failures etc are definately a management concern and should be addressed.
Mr Vincent Cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 11:45
Sur Cassar...ax ma temigrax? Umbaghad forsi tkun tista toqghod tikkritika kemm trid lill-Maltin...x'inferiority complex!
Mr Ronald Gauci
Jul 7th 2011, 11:57
@ Mr C Cassar
I have the following task for you: For every bus driver you bring to work in Malta from Eastern Europe or any other EU country which is capable to drive well on the Maltese roads and can speak English enough well to communicate with the passengers and is ready to work for 35 euros a day (from which he has to pay food and accommodation) for at least a period of one year I give you 1000 euros !
Come on mate go for it and show us how intelligent you are!!
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 11:02
I appeal to the Times of Malta to send a the list of complaints on this website to this David Martin guy, so that he may read what is being written, not what they tell him.
And, if possible, can the Times of Malta give us a mobile / fixed line where we can call him and tell him about the REAL service they are giving us, i.e. STRANDING US AT BUSTOPS FOR HOURS AT END?
Fran Abela
Jul 7th 2011, 11:19
Mr. Galea - when your plane delays departure do you call the Chairman of Air Malta ? Do not be ridiculous. However, I do agree that a list of complaints be placed on the website with a copy to Arriva Malta, so these can be dealt with as soon as possible.
Chris Xuereb
Jul 7th 2011, 11:21
It all depends what you mean by a Fast Service....... If Fast means driving like maniacs and in such a hurry that they do not even bother pulling into the bus bay at the bus stops I'd still opt for the change!
Mr J Busuttil
Jul 7th 2011, 11:24
Mark inti bis serjeta, most of the blogs are fake complaints. Example: This morning on one of the news items of the Times a certain John Spiteri wrote that he was delayed from Bugibba/Qawra to Bulebel by two hours and arrived at eight at work at the same time he had chance to write on the blog just minutes after he arrived. ( A cushy job he has). Five/ten minutes later he wrote another blog giving a different route same area different wording but same person.
Joe Micallef
Jul 7th 2011, 11:40
Are you at last at work Mark? Seems you either own the company or it allows you quite some free time to browse the internet posting comments .
Whatever the issues ARRIVA is already a better option than the no service of yesterday - at least the overall attitude is by far more ethical and civil and the air condition functioning!!
Constructive Complaints need to placed on the ARRIVA website to assist the company in identifying short comings
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 11:46
@Mr J Busuttil
Do you say I am a fake?
I AM FROM GOZO.
In the last 12 months excepts for a couple of times I always managed the 6:00 pm ferry.
NOW, because of Arriva, I board the 6:45 pm ferry.
AND I do not arrive at 6:10, but at 6:30 - 6:45. Thank God the ferry is usually a little late, else I would have lost it once too. I had to "tell kindly" the driver to stop before getting in the bus stop at cirkewwa, else we would have lost another 5 minutes, giving us the chance to rush for the ferry. You can imagine what the word kindly means when only a glass door is between a Gozitan and the ferry to Gozo.
If that is fake, my friend, go to the Qawra interchange. You have to be able to "fight" your way through to be able to board, else you will be left on the stage ... for the next bus ... and you can be sure that both the driver and the despatcher tried to stop us because bus full up ... cannot continue since saying more would be censored.
Mr J Busuttil
Jul 7th 2011, 12:16
Mark your outburst is useless I never said YOU are fake. Before answering make sure you read well what has been written.
Mr Tony Morris
Jul 7th 2011, 10:59
So they didn't foresee sunny days in the Maltese summer, yet another own goal!!
Phil Humphries
Jul 7th 2011, 11:13
It seems that they didn't foresee rainy days either, so let's hope the canopy is robust and that it arrivas before the bad weather :)
Charles Sammut
Jul 7th 2011, 11:17
It is not only the sunny days they did not foresee, but neither the narrow roads and the fact that these buses cannot negotiate many urban streets without creating traffic chaos and piling up delays.
Jonathan Scerri
Jul 7th 2011, 11:37
Perhaps they did not foresee commuters waiting for "days" for some sort of service, be they sunny or wet!
The old terminus had no shelters, but waiting times were reasonable and commuters were often allowed to wait inside buses.
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