Update 2: Red mini buses pick up people from bus stops; drivers claim they were threatened not to go in to work
British drivers to fill-in gaps in Arriva service from tonight
Last updated at 9.50 additions in bold. Adds video
Arriva Malta is bringing in 55 British drivers to temporarily fill the gaps in its service after some 60 Maltese drivers did not show up.
Informed sources said the first group of British drivers flew in late yesterday and are already familiarising themselves with the routes. Others will fly in this morning.
"We intend to have these drivers on the service as soon as possible," an Arriva spokesman said.
The measure is temporary until Arriva recruits more Maltese drivers.
The Arriva contract with Transport Malta allows for such an emergency measure as long as it is temporary. Permanent drivers have to be fluent in Maltese.
Transport Malta agreed to the concession. The British drivers are expected to be in Malta for a month.
There are 470 drivers on the service.
Arriva said this morning that 56 drivers did not show up for work, again causing delays on much of the network.
Two readers contacted timesofmalta.com that they had been picked up from bus stops by red mini buses and paid €1 for a trip to Valletta.
A reader from Zabbar said he was on the bus stop for 90 minutes.
Another one, from Dingli, said he had still to see a bus in that locality.
"My bus arrived after an hour, when buses used to go past here after 10 minutes," an irate elderly woman said in Paola.
In Blata l-Bajda, a timesofmalta.com reporter came across a man who said he had walked all the way from Paola because the bus did not show up.
Several other people said, at 8 a.m., that they were supposed to be at work at 7.30.
At Sliema, passengers said the situation was 'chaotic' and air conditioners were not working. "It was like a sauna" a passenger said.
In St Julians the ticketing machine on a bus was not working. "I could only buy a 50c ticket to Valletta" the commuter said. The driver on the bus was polite, she said.
However on other buses, in Sliema, a driver's attitude was rude, with him shouting at the passengers to tell them that the bus was full up, when, she said, it was not full.
Many people could be seen on bus stops, and longer-than-usual traffic jams also built up in several localities in the early morning as many workers appeared to have played safe and opted to drive to work, rather than taking the buses.
However the situation appeared to be improving by mid-morning. An Arriva spokesman said 80% of the electronic information boards on the buses are now working, after serious technical difficulties yesterday, and almost all the buses have been put in service, a spokesman for the company said.
A number of drivers who turned up to protest, without their uniform, at the Arriva offices yesterday, did not show up today.
There were also unconfirmed reports that some of the drivers who did not show up for work claimed that they had been threatened not to go to work.
The company this morning advised passengers to be prepared for 'some delays' but said services from Cirkewwa and at Gozo are running as planned.
"Services from Marsa and Floriana depots have been significantly affected by the driver shortfall, with all services impacted to some extent but there are particular delays to routes 11, 12, 13 and X1, X2, X3 and X4.
"Every effort is being made to put in extra journeys to substitute where possible," the company said.
Spokesman Piers Marlow, a director of ArrivaMalta said the number of bus drivers who did not turn up this morning was less than yesterday.
"We are already working to reduce the net impact, it is inevitable that it will have a significant impact on services. There will be network disruption with some journeys missing and some delays.
"I apologise to passengers and assure you that we are working hard to run all routes and will make every effort to get passengers moving around the island as quickly as possible."
He asked passengers to appreciate that the majority of the people working for Arriva Malta were working hard and trying their very best, in a challenging situation not of their making.
The company did not say why drivers had not turned up but drivers protested on Saturday over their working conditions, including more hours than expected and the split shift. A company spokesman said yesterday the company took a 'dim view' of absence from work.
Transport Minister Austin Gatt on Saturday said that workers who did not like the conditions and did not show up should be dismissed.
Asked what the company was doing, a spokesman for Arriva said yesterday that the company's focus at present was to get the service on track.
The GWU thanked the absolute majority of the drivers for turning up and working hard and asked the people to cooperate.
It said a new roster will be brought in by July 17.
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Rosie zammit
Jul 6th 2011, 00:54
i agree with the fact that in the UK, the driver is paid more... but if you have been on a bus in the 'UK you will realise that the ticket also costs a hell of a lot more than in Malta. If one is talking about split shifts then maybe sales assistants should be paid compensation,since they have been working split shifts for years and no one has opened their mouths in their support. One final thing surprises me.. did the drivers not read the conditions of work, I mean I am sure they had the contract in hand prior to training or were told about the work conditions. Why did they leave it till the last day ...
Kenneth Williams
Jul 8th 2011, 20:35
Jkolli nghid li int ma qrajtx il kundizzjonijiet ghax imkien ma kien hemm split shift u qalulhom li ser jahdmu gurnata ta 8 sighat mhux ta 16 il siegha. Jaqaw int tahdem ghal frisk jew x imkien bin nofs ta nhari????
Mr Joseph Micallef
Jul 5th 2011, 22:38
Why do so many keep persisting in writing here that the drivers will be earning just 35Euros a day?!!! Can't they read or listen to the news properly maybe? The 35Euros are going to be given extra - as part of the agreement reached with the GWU so that the drivers will continue to work the split shift, temporarily! EXTRA! As per AGREEMENT WITH THE GWU which represents the drivers!
Ms maria bonnici
Jul 5th 2011, 22:32
I HAD THE SAME FATE YESTERDAY IN A BUS WITHOUT AIR CONDITION AT 2 IN THE AFTERNOON! WITH THE SCORCHING SUN LAUGHING AT US PASSENGERS FANNING OURSELVES WITH EVERY BIT OF PAPER!!! THIS SHOULDN T HAVE HAPPENED!
Chris Sammut
Jul 5th 2011, 18:19
Usually i do comment against the old bus drivers, but this time old bus drivers and new drivers that joined in are one with same wage. If, it's reality that drivers are being payes 35euros for a shift then i do agree with them of being unhappy. In UK Arriva drivers are payed more than that for sure. Minimum wage in UK is around £5.40, so if you do a shift of 12hrs that's already over £50. So although I don't agree of drivers don't go to work, i blame all who s involved in the 'froga' of new transport for Malta and act on behalf of the citizens and all the business hit. and quick!
Andreas Reiff
Jul 5th 2011, 19:13
'35 Euro for a shift'. Bus drivers on a split shift receive 35 Euro EXTRA to their usual pay. Considering they work 8 hours a day on a split shift, then each hour they actually work they receive 4.375 Euro per working hour EXTRA. Half of the employees working on split shift on this islands do not even get this amount, let alone as an EXTRA to their usual pay.
Robert Camilleri
Jul 5th 2011, 11:00
ghal hafna minnkom jidher li dawn il haddiema li jridu aktar paga minn 35 euros haqqhom il forka!! jien naghmila cara li kwalunkwe haddiem haqqu aktar minn 35 euros paga kuljum!! u dawn li jmexxu l pajjiz hadu 500 euros fil gimgha zieda ta xejn ikun hawn minnkom li jbirkuhom!! ifthu ghajnejkom tibqawx cwiec maltin
Franco Abela
Jul 5th 2011, 12:50
Sa fejn naf jien €35 hija EXTRA mal-paga - shift allowance.
Mr raynond ciancio
Jul 5th 2011, 02:02
i see a lot of comments and people complaining about the bendy busses, but did not see any comment about bringing in double deckers, what do we have against them, they take a good number of people and have been tried and tested not only in other countries, but also on our roads, carrying tourists around, should we think about them????????????
Michael Bruce
Jul 5th 2011, 13:21
Yes, Arriva have around 100 spare British made DAF & Volvo 11 metre longdouble deckers without airconditioning available in the UK that could be bought to Malta soon
Tonio Bugeja
Jul 4th 2011, 22:34
It seems that the few arrogant bus drivers wanted to put a taste of their own concoction in the matter. These rotten tomatoes should be purged and done away with. If there is anything which is against an agreement then it is easily identified and sorted around a table but these few had other plans. Their arrogant act was aimed at the maltese public who had tirelessly subsidised their poor service and wanted to say a big thank you their way. If there was a whiff of nostalgia for them they lost it! RIP!
Francis Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 18:57
I've spent two and half hours waiting near the super one stage for bus number 72, in the morning.
Mrs Joana Pura
Jul 4th 2011, 17:41
So there is work enough in Malta for foreigners as well! All over in this wild world first you go to work then you bring up further requests. It would be interesting to find out who doesn't respect the contract: Arriva or the bus drivers? Good luck to sort it out. What is going on on the streets is not fun at all.
GWU think of us all. We suffer, those guys are getting paid with 35Euro/day but they don't wait, and wait, and wait...
Robert Camilleri
Jul 5th 2011, 10:54
35Euros a day in 2011 is nothing !! you pay peanuts to get monkeys!! the deserve more than 35 euros a day!!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 18:03
35 euros is extra, over and above their wage.
Antonina Hindley
Jul 4th 2011, 16:50
We went on the bus today and it was chaotic and long waits... but the drivers were very polite and i think it is unfair that a lot of people complain to them about the new routes and the long delays, they are just following the route they are scheduled to.
Hopefully this will resolve soon but do send in your suggestions to Arriva Together we can make this new service better,
Romina Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 15:59
J'alla jibdew jibghatu tnejn minn dawn il-minibuses l-Mgarr, ghax il-bierah kelna nimxu mil-Mosta ghal Mgarr ghax qalulna li buses l'hawn fuq mhux ser jahdmu, dalghodu bqajna l-art wkoll... x'se jsir minna?
Mr Joseph Agius
Jul 4th 2011, 15:44
Arriva's only mistake.....employing Maltese drivers from the old service. Hope these bullies are filtered off as soon as possible.
Mark Jones
Jul 4th 2011, 21:16
Malta's big mistake - using a crap company like Arriva with a dismal record in many parts of the UK.
They're so rubbish that they couldn't persuade enough drivers to work for them, which led to the rostering problems, which led to drivers withdrawing their labour.
That apart, Arriva's buses have been sitting around in Marsa parking areas and elsewhere for weeks. Why were the route indicators not ready? Why did one driver not even know how to start his bus this morning? It wold be a joke if working people did not have to rely on these incompetent idiots.
Give us back our old system. Kick Arriva out and Austin Gatt with them.
Mr Ronald Cauchi
Jul 4th 2011, 15:09
Was it the drivers who mad ethe airconditioners go off? Was it the drivers who fixed a good number of bus stops in the wrong place? Was it the drivers who expected bendy buses to go where they didnt fit.? or made people wait for long hours in the sun without any shelter? or was it a pig headed Minister who thinks He knows it all and frankly is well past his sell by date thats assuming he ever had a sell by date.
Marco Farrugia
Jul 5th 2011, 09:13
Amen to that!
Ms C Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 14:13
Drivers' shift should not be capriciously lenghtened. However, it must be borne in mind that even EU legislation obliges drivers to take a 45 minute break after a maximum of 4.5 hours driving. (ideally a break is to be taken earlier).
I wish the teething problems were less, however, i urge all Maltese to stick through the hopefully initial difficulties so that we get a public transport service which is civilised and which does not pose the risk of asthma and lung cancer to all of us.
If the system is being torpedoed by ex drivers of the old public transport system, they should be fired and Government ensure that the majority of law-abiding Maltese are not bullied by a minority.
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 4th 2011, 14:12
In my most humble opinion, Arriva will not be able to give us a good service with just 270 buses, and of which about 80 are {rejects} or as claimed reconditioned buses.
Today its the second day of operations, with one bendy bus from Paceville to Valletta, it took us almost an hour to get there. If this bus had to race a tortoise going up the Pieta hill, it would have been an even bet on who would have won.
BTW The bendy that broke down by the Ballutta pitch was probably the one I was earlier on.
I would suggest to Arriva to just get rid of these types of buses,as a full load of passengers on them take too much time, and most probably their engines are not powerful enough for the load they carry going up some of our hills.
Rachel Caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 14:07
What I can say from all that has been happening is that m'hemmx trux iktar ma dak li ma jridx jisma! One must be blind not to realise that most new operations on such a scale will have teething problems. Having workers not showing up for work has only aggravated the problem. Now Arriva have to deal with this too. One cannot blame a company for the irresponisble behaviour of the selfish few. This attitude has only caused problems to clients using transport, mostly fellow maltese and thrown a bad light on tourists. STILL OUR MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME. Just to sulk because they did not get their way. Why did not the old bus drivers sort themselves out and improve the service all these decades if they did not want to be replaced. Gone are the days when people are prepared to put up with rickety buses, foul language and getting ripped off for not having the right change. Besides unpredictable schedules. Have the maltese forgotten all this? And now they expect sterling service from day one, where in most instances we put up with bad service and inconsistencies across the board. Maltese are not known for their puncuality that is for sure. Then some have the cheek to complain at the slightest hitch when the Arriva people and those maltese drivers who have had the decency to turn up for work are trying their best to fix the mess caused by the lazy and ignorant. If the said drivers complain about the wage they should have found work elsewhere or protected their job in the first place and not got replace because of the trash we have had to put up with. Also did they not know that they could not show their tattoos/earrings until the first day of work? did they not read their contract before? Every place of work has its rules, and this is no exception. Veru ghawn min iridha hobla u tredda!!!!
Ms D Galea
Jul 4th 2011, 13:47
The ARRIVA company was a success wherever it provided a service.Why should they not be successful in tiny Malta?
Why should a handful of selfish , brutish, semi-illiterate morons be allowed to sabotage the system ?
ARRIVA should not have taken on any of the old drivers to provide this brand new service. One can dress up a mule in the trappings of thoroughbred horse,, but a mule it will remain.
Pia Attard
Jul 5th 2011, 09:24
To be fair, I encountered a few very decent, polite and neat bus drivers in the "yellow bus" time. I hope these people were employed and if they were, I'm sure they are working hard as they always did.
Unfortunately it seems that some of the bad eggs got through the application system at Arriva, although I can't help wondering whether they did it on purpose to exact their revenge on us. I have a feeling that there would have been a strike regardless of whether there were split shifts on their rosters or not ;)
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 4th 2011, 13:47
Ergajna, kju ghand l-ETC ghal-impieg u ingibu il-barranin biex jiehdu xoghol il-maltin. Isthu. din marda kronika tal-PN l-ewwel il-barranin.
Mr Alex Buds
Jul 4th 2011, 18:42
Ahjar jisthu dawk id-drivers primittivi li ma gewx ghax xoghol kif suppost nahseb, sur Fenech...
Carmela Mercieca
Jul 4th 2011, 13:39
meta naqra l-blogs ninduna kemm hawn kristjani f'dan il-pajjiż li jiftaħar li hu kattoliku. Alla hu akbar u meta dawn jigu għal ġudizzju Tiegħek jippretendu l-ħniena Mingħandek.
Ħlief mibgħeda għal proxxmu m'għandhomx. O Mulej aħfrilhom għax ma jafux x'inhuma jagħmlu.
Melvin Tonna
Jul 4th 2011, 14:41
X'ghandu x'jaqsam il-gudizzju ma' dan l-artiklu?
Ms Maria Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 15:19
What is your point exactly?
If people do not turn up for work without a valid reason then they should be fired. This country is going to the dogs because people expect the right to work but don't want to have the responsibility to keep the job!
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 13:35
Their publicity material, their PR Campaign, their state of the art electronics systems, their drivers grooming with their white shirt and tie, their comfortable air-conditioned new buses and the newly opened routes are all very impressive, well done Arriva. But what do buses normally do essentially, they transport commuters don’t they? Maybe Arriva will start doing that in the not too distant future.
E. Azzopardi
Jul 4th 2011, 18:01
They will, if we give them time. Do not be so negative, That is why this country is moving so slowing, with citizens with your mentality. Give them time. Did you do everything right in your different jobs the first time? I am sure you didn't? And you did not even critisize those who did not turn up. Mentalita meskina.
mark borg
Jul 4th 2011, 22:34
Do not sound so negative please as you would be sounding like th PN of the 70's and 80's -Remember them in the opposition ? organising strikes and boycotts ...and the famous titlr they gave our beloved Air Malta,Ghasfur tac comb ?
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 13:35
So is all hunky dory in Gozo then?/ Is it only the Maltese Bus drivers who have not turned up for work?? And what is the real reason these 56 drivers did not work?? maybe they could make more than 70 euros a day moonlighting?? Or to be able to have anough free time to carry out their undeclared coffee morning, school / work runs etc?? SACK them and emply more drivers. Arriva should also consider employing part timers and relievers who will be available on call at short notice.
Terence Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 16:57
I think Arriva should train some people from Tent City to do the job. Maybe some of them can drive, who knows!
Anthony Pace
Jul 8th 2011, 18:01
Mr Vella the drivers need to speak Maltese and tent city does not. Some refuse to tell us where they are from!
Joseph Grech Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 13:30
The change is needed. Teething problems arise always,even when one enters a new house or wears a pair of new shoes!! What irritates me is the hypocrisy of those who, in previous years, did not reason so but now do! Also Dr. Austin Gatt should stop bullying. Everybody has had enough of such mannerisms. He used to be one who strongly opposed such ways in the 70's and early 80's. He, together with others, was strongly against bringing in foreign doctors during the infamous, political doctors' strike. Is he now in favour of bringing in foreign drivers who do not know Maltese routes? How times change. let's hope God continues to take care of this little Island!
Gordon Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 13:29
issa ix xufiera "tat trakkijiet" imorru jirregistraw ukoll apparti is somma li hadu u tharbit li gabu kemm f lulju 2008 u anke issa.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 13:07
May those who want the Maltese drivers who are fighting for their right have a thousand time what they wish for the Maltese drivers.
Ray Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 13:04
Reading this article makes me wonder who really is at fault here! A spokesman for Arriva said and quote "almost all the buses are in operation" How does one define almost? Almost to me means 90% Yet we have 56 drivers missing! Which buses I beg to enquire, were they going to drive? Yesterday we were told that 30 drivers were a no-show. Today we had 56 no-shows. Yet Mr Barstow is under the impression that the bus drivers that did not turn up this morning were less than yesterday! The mind boggles! I sincerely believe the it is the management that needs pulling up their socks! I have never witnessed queues like I have today. Their is a great necessity to go back to the drawing board and seriously reconsider the whole system. My wife left Paola this morning under the impression that she was going to be driven to Valletta as per usual! Little did she know that she was going to Valletta via Qormi and Hamrun! Come on guys, please wake up, this is not Sunderland or Slumberland!
ronald mifsud
Jul 4th 2011, 13:02
The service is excellent. Some of the old bus drivers want to sabotage the new company. They think they can reduce it to shambles as the old organisation. Sack the bastards & leave them longing for work!
Paul Sammut
Jul 4th 2011, 12:53
Notrwithstanding the chaotic begining of the service, I still say that it will be fine tuned and these teething problems should be solved. However I never expected that the new buses come along without showing at least the destination or else some kind of information in front !! This is pure pure administration.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 12:49
Why are some people blaming Arriva for this mess when the fault is clearly that of a few drivers who were set on disrupting the service before it even started? Arriva made only one mistake; they hired some of the old bus drivers. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they had planned this from the start to purposely disrupt the service! Arriva should fire anyone who hasn't shown up for work and replace them with people who want to work.
Ray Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 14:27
Of course I blame Arriva. Who approved the new networks? Since when do I have to travel from Paola to Valletta via Qormi and Hamrun..............This is the acute problem. Major towns need direct connections and preferable a shuttle system during rush hour...
A Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 15:06
I actually overheard them discussing the very subject whils having a cup of tea at the bus drivers kiosk in Valletta weeks ago. They automatically assume (wrongly in the second case) by the colour of my hair that I am a foreigner and a complete 'gonk' when it comes to the Maltese language! They had no intention of actually working. They only applied for the jobs for the very reason that we are all seeing now. At the time I thought it was all hot air as I didn't think that Arriva would stoop so low as to employ them.
Thelma Cilia
Jul 4th 2011, 15:19
I couldn't agree with you more Mr Camilleri. This whole situation stinks of sabotage!!!
John Pace
Jul 4th 2011, 15:50
This is Malta and not Bogota or Rwanda mate :)
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 4th 2011, 12:43
So Arriva fly in 55 drivers from the UK. Is one to assume that the company had pre-empted the problem and had previously arranged I.D cards as well as the required work permits to allow them to operate? Furthermore made suitable arrangements for their own personal safety given the level of feelings?
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 13:08
This is simply undermining the Maltese drivers who are fighting for their rights.
The British drivers are STRIKE-BREAKERS
They know that strike breakers are called SCABS
They know how SCABS are treated everywhere.
Do not expect to be treated differently in Malta
Anthony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 13:14
so blind with political passion that you rush to print
and could not even get the Prime Minister's
surname correct.
Clint Falzon
Jul 4th 2011, 13:33
I dont think work permits where hard to get since both UK and Malta are EU countries
Hil Gates
Jul 4th 2011, 16:35
UK citizens no longer need a work permit to work in Malta.
angelo cilia
Jul 4th 2011, 20:25
Tony, undermining this riff raff that never showed up on day one and two of their allotted job is a sweet deal.
They asked for it and they have no sympathy with the maltese public and tourists who were made to suffer for them to prove a futile point, whatever that point is.
This will all come out in the wash and everything will be ironed out, Arriva will make this work come hell or high water. BTW, we are moving forward and not backwards and compliant bus drivers will be found from Malta, Gozo and Europe who want to work and earn a decent wage to support their families.
The days of these bombli holding Malta hostage are long over, they need to construct a time machine to get them back to the 1970s and 80s, but they are too stupid and lazy to ever do so.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 12:43
I am very comfortably retired leading a relatively good life with no serious complaints, yet I will never forget the hardships when I started having to support a family when my income wasn't enough to sustain a decent quality of life. How can I today not sympathize with these drivers who we expect to see feeding themselves and their family on 35 bloody Euros a day? Yes yes yes they have my solidarity and my finger is pointed at Laurence Gatt. If everything worked like a Swiss watch today he will be all over the place posing for the media and demanding our applause. Since things did not turn out right, who can I therefore put the blame on?
Mr Michael Buhagiar
Jul 4th 2011, 13:22
why should you complain when you are enjoying a beautiful villa with swimming pool and all confies. You should be ashamed even to write all this crap..
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 13:36
They are not getting only 35 euros daily , it's actually 70 euros if on split shift.
Mr M Cachia
Jul 4th 2011, 14:07
Dear Lord - can we please stop saying they are earning 35 a day. Its not true! Their wage is 200 a week with 35 over that per day if they work a 12 hour split shift.
I. Cilia
Jul 4th 2011, 14:07
Who the hell is Laurence Gatt?
Mr Wally Vella-Zarb
Jul 4th 2011, 15:33
"it's actually 70 euros if on split shift."
Sure...and how long is a split shift...? Iddaħħaqx nies bik Ms Abela!
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 4th 2011, 16:54
Mr Wally hadd mhu qed idakkak in-nies bih. It-tifel tieghi issa ghadu kemm telaq. Chef, beda fid-disgha ta' filghodu gie break fit-tlieta u nof u rega telaq issa sa l-ghaxra. dak hu split u tal-linja ghandhom iktar hours ta mistrieh fl-isplit u qedin fl-aircondition u mhux quddiem il-forn bhal ibni u lanqas biss igerger ghax dak xtaq jaghmel wara li mar jistudja l-ITS. u ifhimni ta mar jistudja.
Rita Smith
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 16:59
Mr Cilia. Laurence Gatt is Austin Gatt. My mistake,sorry.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 17:04
Francesca,That is only if the split shift is 12 hours+. According to my knowledge their split shift is 12 Hours - .
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 17:15
Mr Cachia, according to a driver I know well they get 35 Euros per day not 40 Euros as you claim. All the media are saying 35 Euros too so why should we take your word for it? The fact that they will now get 70 Euros for a split shift also confirms it.
j camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 12:41
Arriva...Ma tasal qadt !!!
C Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 12:22
in senglea this morning there was 1 bus at 6am (20mins for all the people to board and have their tickets) and then the next bus was only at 9:30am!! 3 and a half hours of waiting for people who need to go to work in the morning is totally unacceptable!
Mario Pace
Jul 4th 2011, 12:12
Dear All,
I have used the Minibuses this morning. Blissful. Very efficient service.
Will be using them daily.
M. Pace
Roderick Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 13:15
I used the Co-op Mini Bus and it was excellent. Picked up perfectly in time.
R. Micallef
Kenneth Ellul
Jul 4th 2011, 12:02
Honestly dont care what the drivers where or are earning. if they want to keep their job they should work and work hard, if not they should just bugger off. After all it is the public who had to stick up with their poor and rude attitude (which was definatly not worth 300 Euro a week) over the past decades. Now its time for them to pull up their socks. Well done Arriva for bringing over the UK Drivers so as to counter act these non showers.
Mr Slim Bartolo
Jul 4th 2011, 11:51
I think now we can seperate the real men from the boys, as some Maltese who have never worked for a foreign company abroad will never learn and are still living in the days of the ark or as we say in cocoland or in plain terms ignorant so and so and need to be given 100 lines<> i must go back to school and learn some manners and grow up<> in some european countries the people creating Havoc would be sacked and in their place employ a reliable person who is willing to do his job according to the rules. After all they are employed as PUBLIC SERVANTS to put it mildly and at this rate they are letting not only the country down but also the public who use the Brand New service. Work it out for yourselves, as the end of the day its their pocket that suffers and their families who need their daily bread and butter. End of Story!
Joseph Grech Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 13:36
LOL! Most drivers in the UK are foreigners who accept the meager conditions of work as drivers. Very few British do the work! I hope that the foreign drivers brought over are not a sample of these [poor people. God help us all. ARRIVA is a private company so the employees are NOT PUBLIC SERVANTS, but private ones!
Michael Lloyd
Jul 4th 2011, 17:19
Mr Attard, that is completely untrue! I use the buses here in Britain very frequently and the drivers, male and female are 99% British - it is rare to see a non-British bus driver here. We do have one obviously non-British driver, and on a short journey (less than two miles) with him recently, I noticed that he clipped the kerb with the back wheels six times. Not much of a driver, and yes, thanks, I can drive buses myself and have the correct licence to do so. I worked in the industry for years.
Tarcisio Bonello
Jul 4th 2011, 11:42
If I were the Police - I would ask :-
Who are the people threatening the Arriva Drivers ?
What is the REAL aim of disrupting the Bus Service? (surely it's not the 12 hr roster which is temporary and going to be changed in the coming weeks)
Could these people be the same ones that planted a bomb at the Transport Malta Offices a few months back?
... in fact this action could be a blessing in disguise!!
PS: - Well Done Arriva for bringing in replacement drivers = The message you have sent is that you will not tolerate any Thugs or Bullies disrupting the service. That's the way to do things.
.... and prosit Austin Gatt too!!!
Guze Scerri
Jul 4th 2011, 11:32
Fejn hija Transport Malta li hija ir-regulatur tat-transport f'Malta biex ghazlet din il-kumpanija biex tmexxi it-transport publiku b'dan in-nuqas ta management serju? Tidher li hija nieqsa ghall-kollox biex tmexxi transport f'pajjizna.
Mr George Calleja
Jul 4th 2011, 12:47
Arriva mexxiet tant tajjeb is-servizz tat-trasport f'tant pajjizi ikbar minna b'tant miljuni ta vjaggaturi...imma f'Malta naraw kif nivvintaw l-inkwiet halli kulhadd igorr kemm jiflah!! Hekk biss nafu naghmlu. Dawk ix-xufiera li qed joholqu dan il-kaos ghandhom agenda mohbija biex dan is-servizz li tant kellna bzonnu jidher ikrah mal-pubbliku. Hawn min qed joghrok idejh jara dan it-tharbit, ghax hekk dejjem xtaq. Imma fl-ahhar dawn it-'taparsi' nies jiehdu r-risposta li jixirqilhom .
G Briffa
Jul 4th 2011, 14:47
Jahasra L Arriva u l barranin just l isem. Kunu afu li rotot, pagi u mbarazz hekk kolla minn naha tal Maltin harget (Tumas). Personalment ghalijja it tender missom tawha fejn kien hemm l iktar esperjenza. F dik fejn applika ghalijha l Paramount. Li kieku it tender giet ghand il kumpanija l ohra fejn kien hemm il paramount mdahhla konna nkunu ahjar. Paramount jafom it toroq Maltin sew u kif ghandu jahdem servizz ta transport. Ta Tumas x jafu b dawn l affarijiet e ?
Joanne Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 11:26
I got stuck in traffic this morning as a bus BROKE DOWN in Tower Rd. I can understand why the buses are late, but quite frankly its a bit too soon for the buses to start bailing out aswell
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 4th 2011, 11:26
"Permanent drivers have to be fluent in Maltese."
Why are Arriva burdened with such conditions?
The British are EU nationals and have every right to work here.
The Government employed nurses (who have a much more delicate job than drivers) who do not speak a single word of Maltese.
Malta has become a place where (apart from EU nationals) Asians, Africans and Eastern Europeans can be seen working without any problem.
Do they all speak Maltese?
George ...
Jul 4th 2011, 13:19
Mr. Patrick Zammit it is a SHAME for you to say this. I am Maltese and I am proud .Thanks for ARRIVA to do this conditions I agree. ARRIVA RISPECT the people of Malta and Gozo and doing the best. The bus drivers they should know how to speak and understand Maltese. Yes you right we are in EU and we have every right to work. Most who work for public sector all try to learn Maltese language. If you work in UK you have to speak English.
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 4th 2011, 18:07
George
Shame or no shame, where do you find the condition that in order to work in Malta, a foreigner must speak Maltese?
fleur cilia buckett
Jul 4th 2011, 11:25
lol...........the uniform stands for maltese, english polish whoever!!!!it's quite simple who doesnt turn up to work, they will be down at the dole office!
Charles J. Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 11:22
Let's face it the imported Arriva's top brass, even though that they are not Cwiec Maltin, had blown it up to redicule. Now we have to wait and see this group of 56 British bus drivers trying to find their way through the streets of Hal Qormi,Qrendi,Hal Safi, Sqaq il Voti..... etc. Free entertainment will be guaranteed to all.
Jonathan Scerri
Jul 4th 2011, 11:18
If 56 out of 470 drivers did not show up, one would expect that 88% of the service would still run as scheduled. The absent drivers are only part of the blame.
The rest of mishaps is all due to the incompetence (we're used to it now) of ARRIVA and Co.
Shameful service for EUR 6.8million a year out of taxpayers' pockets in subsidies.
Ms Agnes Bezzina
Jul 4th 2011, 11:28
Simple Maths does not work in such a circumstances ... The reality is that this hassle has much more to do with archaic bus drivers not wanting change, and trying to jeopardise progress! Neanderthal days are over ...
Ms F Goodwin
Jul 4th 2011, 11:53
You expect them to just cancel 56 routes completely so that the rest of the service can run smoothly?
Mr Ray de Bono
Jul 4th 2011, 11:14
its 11.15, some of my staff are still on their way to office. NO COMMENT. Arriva non ARRIVA MAI?
G Briffa
Jul 4th 2011, 11:12
First of all many of you people commenting here really don't know the true situation. First of all Arriva is not being run by foreigners in this country but by Maltese people. 2nd of all in the United kingdom and many other countries, the drivers all have tattoos even the ones of Arriva. Malta is the special place which isn't allowing drivers with tattoos.
In the Old Bus service the drivers had quite a decent pay of 300 euros per week. With a big company like Arriva they are only getting less then 200 euros a week. Their contract was an 8 hour per day and this changed drastically with some drivers also have to work about 12-14 hours a day with the same freaking wage. Now they are bringing foreign drivers as well, these drivers are being paid about 400 euros a week !!!. But since many of you people always critisize the old bus drivers you may not believe what i'm saying and im sure many of you consider it to be fair having foreign drivers with high wages while having .our own national drivers paid only the half of which foreign drivers will be paid . Many of you people also consider it to be fair having Arriva changing drastically the Rosters for drivers to work more with the same wage. I really wish for many of you people to end up having more work time and will still be paid the same or having your wage reduced, then you will end up in the same situation that our Maltese drivers are in.
Franco Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 11:35
No it's not fair to protest.... but not by not showing up to work!!!! They should work the first 2 weeks till they get things sortes and then strike if things remain the same. But not strike on Day 1!
Mr Biker Man
Jul 4th 2011, 12:46
G Briffa you're trying to give the impression that some drivers will have to work 12-14 hours a day. Totally and completely FALSE. You're obviously referring to the split-shifts, which for example start at 8am and end at 8pm or 10pm. Drivers who were assigned a split shift WILL NOT work the whole time during the day. They will, for example have to work from 8.00am to 12.00pm (4 hours) and then from 4.00pm to 8.00pm (4 hours). As you can see, G Briffa, that makes a total of 8 hours and so please stop writing nonsense. AND drivers working on a split shift, are given an additional €35.00 every day, over and above their normal pay. G Briffa, if it were such a pitiful and disastrous job as you want us to believe, there wouldn't be anyone interesting in doing it at all, no? Facts show otherwise.
Mr Joseph E Briffa
Jul 4th 2011, 13:29
Foreign drivers have to be paid more than the locals to cover board and lodging; is it not obvious?
Emanuel Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 14:46
Emanuel Tabone
sibna lil xi hadd ghandu l-irgulija.
Mr Anthony Pace Gouder
Jul 4th 2011, 16:14
Seen bus drivers overseas wearing earings (males) and even nose piercing !
Mrs Maya Fenech
Jul 4th 2011, 11:09
Well done Arriva for trying to give a service even though some people try to sabotage your start. They are wishing the old days back where everybody could do what they like.
Jonathan Agius
Jul 4th 2011, 11:00
Who knows who's treatening the bus drivers??? I guess I know who.....
The rude old bus drivers!!!!!
Christopher Busuttil
Jul 4th 2011, 10:58
If you would like to taste the luxury of Arriva buses in Malta visit :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTHMdFHqIlQ&feature=mh_lolz&list=HL1309769561
Mr Patrick Zammit
Jul 4th 2011, 11:18
Recomended...
Franco Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 10:56
I think drivers have the right to protest like everyone.... simply not in this way!
If I do not go to work everytime I do not agree with my boss I end up working a 3 day week. Hold on... if I don't go to work I get fired right away! No one has the right to strike without informing the parties involved before-hand and strikes should be authorised by the union. This was not the case with these drivers. Give them an ultimatum and if they do not show to work tomorrow, ie: 3 days no show = not interested to work anymore and fire them.
Mr Chris Vidal
Jul 4th 2011, 10:56
il Malti qatt ma jitghallem.
Mr M Farrugia
Jul 4th 2011, 12:08
Sur laiviera, tista tikkonferma jekk il-kundizzjonijiet inbidlux minn wara dar il-GWU ghax hafna qed jghid li dak li sar kien bil-barka tal-Union tax-xufiera? Veru li allura il-GWU accettat il-kundizjonijiet li jahdmu 12 il-sigha straight u jithallsu inqas milli kienu jithalsu meta kienu jahdmu mas-sistema l-antika? Jekk ir-risposta hija fin-negattiv il-GWU ghax ma tkellmitx? Se taccetta li bniedem jinghata is-sensja ghax ghandu tattoo xi haga li hija komni hafna barra minn Malta mal-Arriva.
Mr Victor Laiviera
Jul 4th 2011, 10:55
I get the feeling that most people commenting here are simply venting the frustration, built up over decades, with our very poor (in some respects) public transport services.
Which is totally unfair.
This dispute is about a very specific point. The drivers were engaged to a signed contract which specified certain conditions. On the first day, these conditions were changed unilaterally by the company.
This is in no way acceptable. If Arriva is allowed to get away with this, no employee will be safe. Any company will be able to change contractual conditions at will - we will really be back in Victorian times.
Wake up, for god's sake. There are principles that are more important than cheap revenge cos some bus driver treated you badly in the past.
Mr M Mamo
Jul 4th 2011, 11:27
you are wrong ... if arriva changed the contract, the contract would end up being illegal and null. everyone has the right to strike, backed by a union not in an illegal way.
Mr Henry A. Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 11:32
@ Victor
I hope you're not right, because the GWU was involved and it agreed to the 'new temporary' conditions.
But then, why were the drivers given their instructions on 1pm on the Saturday, just hours before the inauguation?!!
There's two sides to a coin; always!
Mr phil sam
Jul 4th 2011, 11:45
Victor, surely the contract is read, before signing. After all it is a binding agreement.
Ms F Goodwin
Jul 4th 2011, 11:51
The roster is within the terms of the contract they signed. If it wasn't, the union would support them, but the union is telling them to go to work. The union people are thankfully more literate than these 60 troublemakers - they read the contract carefully and they know the conditions adhere to it.
Without having read the contract myself, I imagine it provided that they wouldn't work more than 9 hours a day. Such a term wouldn't preclude a split shift. The drivers didn't consider the implications and now they are 'surprised'
Please don't buy into their propaganda. All this is about, is that under the old system a certain class of people (bus drivers) had power and money disproportionate to their skills and the amount and quality of work they did. They weren't regulated and they were free to do as they pleased. Of course they want to disrupt the new system and return to the old.
I honestly believe that they would have picked anything to base this on. If it wasn't a split shift, they'd complain about the long hours with no break. I wouldn't even be particularly surprised if when they took the job they had no intention of going to work. These are not honourable people motivated by workers rights - you only need to look at the strain they've put on their fellow drivers (the ones who are actually doing their job right now) to see that. They only want to sabotage Arriva and scare the government and the people to welcoming back 'the devil they know'
Victoria b
Jul 4th 2011, 10:52
why these employees are complaining now? When they signed the contract they new what they were going to be offered as salary. If these employees who didn't go to work and are protesting are old bus drivers I think it's time for arriva to sack them and if arriva had given any training to these guys please ask them back the money you invested on them.
Seems like these people are tryring to sabotage the new system... Just get them out of the way.
They have always got what they wanted on the old bus service, hopefully now not anymore so just stop acting as bullies...
Mr Reginald Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 10:51
Sorry, ARRIVA!
Do be patient with a fraction of our people!
This government has always found obstacles from within and from without!
Thank you just the same!
J Farrugia
Jul 4th 2011, 14:55
ahh poor little gonzi and blue eyed boys, issa give yoursekves another pay rise ta,
Steven Dimech
Jul 4th 2011, 10:48
Arriva should fix the contract issue, if they want the drivers to work 15hrs instead of 8hrs, they need to increase the pay and create a rest / off schedule.
But the drivers cant expect to protest because they cant do the part time, wear ear rings and show off thier tattoos!!! Those days are over, they should not have signed the contract. You had your chance and screwed it up. This was a mistake by arrive to employ most of these people. (there were some really friendly drivers with the old system as well, with tattoos and ear rings as well. nothing wrong with it)
I work in a office and cant wear ear rings nor show off my tattoos, and i am good with it cause i signed for it.
Arriva increase your pay, and you will find more and more people willing to become bus drivers.
Mary Louise Cachia
Jul 4th 2011, 10:47
Tlaqt mid-dar ha naqbad l-ewwel tal-linja ta 5.35 minn Marsascala, tal-linja giet fis-6.50 u wasalt ix-xoghol, Ta Xbiex, fit.8.30.
L-iktar haga li dejqitni ma kienx id-driver jew it-traffic li kien hemm, izda l-QRID zejjed tan-nies u TMAQDIR. Id-driver kien pjuttost kalm u gentili. Ejja naghtu cans u nkunu ftit pacenzjuzi ghall-darba!! :/
Mr Joe Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 11:28
L-iktar haga li dejqitni ma kienx id-driver jew it-traffic li kien hemm, izda l-QRID zejjed tan-nies u TMAQDIR. Id-driver kien pjuttost kalm u gentili. Ejja naghtu cans u nkunu ftit pacenzjuzi ghall-darba!! :/
X`tistenna tifhir. Kull dettal ta Termini tal Kuntratt skond l ligi Maltija ghandu jigi rrispettat, inkella nistghu nmorru nghixu lura fil Gungla. Tibda servizz gdid bit theddid mhux xi haga li tista tammira.
Is servizz beda fuq sieq wahda, u zoppa wkoll, l Welfare ta l Individwu ghandu jigi Irrispettat, Airconditioning tajjeb fil Busses mhux kollox, pero l Belt Kapitali Valletta, Shelters kwazi xeln u Public Toilets tal Medju Evu. In Nies migburin ghad Dell tal Famuzi Sigar tad Deheb, qishom tigieg go Kagga.
Dawn in nuqqasijiet certament mhux tort tal Haddiema, ie X Xufiera
Mario Desira
Jul 4th 2011, 10:45
Minister Gatt last year claimed passengers would feel as if we are using transport in another country – and no passenger would need to wait more than 15 mins on a bus stop: he is obviously divorced from reality. It still feels very much like Malta.
This morning, since no information was accessible from Arriva website and the phone went unanswered, I was on the bus stop at 0630 am waiting for the 72 Qrendi bus. This never came. After one hour waiting on the bus stop came a bus which took us to the airport and from then to Qormi interchange and then to Valletta. Result – to get to work to Valletta took me two hours, again arriving late for work. Even accepting teething problems, this is still unacceptable.
One gets the impression planning was both rushed and amateurish, otherwise how come some drivers are not sure of the routes to follow and unable to provide information? And was it not common perception that employing old drivers would produce the same old problems? And the Arriva booklets mailed at home do not have sufficient information on how to travel from A to B, while information on the website if one gets through is still incomplete.
Mr Joe Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 11:33
Mario Desira
`It still feels very much like Malta.`
Wrong Mr Desira, that is close to an Insult to the Maltese Nation I would say confidently,
`Welcome to The Middle Ages.`
Neil Bugeja
Jul 4th 2011, 10:44
Just because the bus drivers realised they're not going to be the gods of the roads and that there's someone above them who's not going to take any ****, they strike!!!
If it were me, I'd fire them ALL on the spot. No second chances, no pity and no nonsense! This is not right for the drivers who actually went to work eager to start with a new company in the right way and frame of mind! it is also not fair to give the company a bad name, since this was all out of their hands! They are doing their utmost to bring drivers in and start their service as expected!
SHAME on the maltese bus drivers. I never thought highly of them, but this is an all-time low
Joe Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 10:42
the change is already impacting positively the environment and will rapidly get on and win commuters' favorable opinion the ARRIVA system is a quantum leap over the now defunct archaic bus (sic) system where the people served the system and not vice versa!
Drivers who do not want reform and think they can dictate as in the past have no place in ARRIVA!
I rarely if ever used the old system as it was unreliable at best and monopolistic as a rule- the commuter was always made to feel obliged for having the miserable service in the form of dingy buses with brooms and floor rags under the front seats/ filthy interior and dirty exterior body works/ the unreliable stop alert push system and unless submissive to the driver's whim one ends up argueing over the 1 cent change -and made to feel a miser asking for the change!!
We Maltese have a knack to forget what one went through with the old bus system and expect miracles the minute a change is introduced !!
Come on Maltese commuters your dignity as a service user (commuter) is being honored and respected - assist by being patient -ARRIVA will succeed big time and sooner than expected!!
G Briffa
Jul 4th 2011, 11:17
The drivers did not get a penny. The OWNERS Of the buses did. Which is way to different. The owners of the old buses are not even working with arriva and the drivers are. Remember the drivers did not own the buses but the buses were owned by different owners. For example Tal- WATT, Honey,Sweetheart and other owners had about 15 buses each, With 20 drivers each.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jul 4th 2011, 10:36
Perhaps some of the migrants who have been given a temporary residence could be trained to do the job. It will tide us over the next few months and give these migrants driving skills which will make it easier for them to seek a job in Europe.
Alfred Grech
Jul 4th 2011, 10:34
Very confusing situation. If it's true that Arriva changed the rosters at the last minute, then Arriva was very wrong. To see all this happen at the last minute is very puzzling. Someone, somewhere goofed big time. I would have thought that such an important issue would have been discussed and solved long before the service came into effect.
Who's the culprit? Arriva, GWU or the drivers? Those who faulted should rectify the situation fast.
Ms B Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 10:23
In my opinion the drivers that missed work had to discuss this properly instead of not showing up to work in the old style archiac type ways practised in Malta. Yes, they have a right to disagree with Arriva on the work schedule if this is different from what was promised and shown in their contract, but these ways are not the proper ones to handle difficulties with your employer. I think the best way should have been that of going to work and inform the union and the management that they are unhappy and disagree with Arriva ALWAYS AND ONLY if the schedule is different from what was signed for in their contract. Protests are only acceptable in extreme cases and not as the order of the day.
In my personal opinion, like it or hate it, if I was the Government, I would have placed one important clause in the contract with Arriva that is - "you are not allowed to employ any of the old bus drivers, the drivers have to be completely new" Even if some drivers were good and used to help, there were still the bad ones that like it or not have influenced the good ones. Also, what a person has been used to for let's say 20 years cannot be changed in few weeks. Old cultures die hard, therefore for me Arriva has fired itself in the foot by employing old bus drivers. I would have expected yound new faces on the buses with a particular level of education such as some O-levels at least and if this education means to pay a little more in wage, then why not? At least finally we would have sacked the insolent, arrogant, moody behaviour from our streets completely.
On another note, I really really hope that the new buses will begin to respect the traffic code that is stopping on stop signs, give way on roundabouts etc as we are quite used to jungle style driving by the old bus drivers. I can still remember the first words of my father when I got my car licence - "stay away from taxis, buses and mini buses - they are all jungle drivers" and he was very right.
A.J. Critien
Jul 4th 2011, 10:22
To me it is obvious that those who didn’t report to work did so primarily to disrupt the new operation of buses on Day 1. Even their own Union whom they opted to join and their representatives whom they opted to elect told them that the matter was being discussed and urged them to report for duty. Nevertheless they chose to ignore their representatives’ pleas and must now face the consequences for their irresponsible action.
Ian Bugeja
Jul 4th 2011, 10:22
Shame on these drivers ... I am curious to know if these drivers are from the old service.
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 10:19
By the way - as someone here said some bus drivers from the old system are taking the buses out of the depot and then just going round without picking passengers up (sometimes even grinning as they drive past crowds on bus stop in the sweltering heat) or just stopping somewhere.
If you see them please take down their details (exact time - bus stop where you saw them - route nr - bus reg no.)
Let's get rid of these b******s once and for all!
Mario Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 10:18
ZMIEN IL-BUZULLOTTI SPICCA. Dr.Austin Gatt's words last Saturday.
Very well said.
Mr Carmel Garcia
Jul 4th 2011, 10:17
Well said Mr. Azzopardi.
J. Scicluna
Jul 4th 2011, 10:16
I would LOVE to see your comments should some employers bring in foreigners to do your jobs during an industrial dispute.
Without getting into the merits of whether there was a breech of contract from ARRIVA or not, this action sets a dangerous precedent.
On another note, if some of the Maltese drivers commented that they are not all that fluent with some of the Routes, imagine a British driver who has never visited the Islands! LOL
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 4th 2011, 17:09
Mr/Ms Scicluna there was no industrial dispute. Industrial dispute without the Union's consent? You must live in Nabumbu land. And an industrial dispute the 1st Day? Sorry you do not know what you are saying. Go back to sleep.
Rita Smith
E. Azzopardi
Jul 4th 2011, 10:15
Our government, who gave these drivers so much of our taxes, should have given them the money and stopped there and not guarantee a job for ten years. Now see what you got.. They find another job themselves. In fact, that is what the vast majority of those who lose their job do, unless you were at the Drydocks, Sea Malta, Air Malta and some others, Other redundant employees are left to fend for themselves. This is very very unjust. Everybody should be treated equally. And these moron of drivers, do not even have some respect for the people who gave them all that money. Just fire them. We have had enough of them.
R Marquette
Jul 4th 2011, 10:15
Following yesterday's article on this website, I am eagerly waiting to see if Arriva has the guts to force these British drivers to wear long sleeves because of tattoos or make any of them take off their earrings ... I'll just have to wait and see .....
G Briffa
Jul 4th 2011, 11:19
Arriva did not come up with the routes. Transport Malta did.
Ellie M.
Jul 4th 2011, 10:13
mamma mia.... what a crappy service!!!!
Waiting for a bus for almost 2 hours yesterday and today for an other hour!!!!
Not to mention .... the LONG routes... it takes u over an hour to arrive to VALLETTA!!
Ara x'ha taghmlu.....
Melvin Tonna
Jul 4th 2011, 14:29
@ Ellie,
Inti qrajta din?:
British drivers to fill-in gaps in Arriva service from tonight
Nahseb li qed jaghmlu minn kollox biex isolvu l-problema! Tihom cans! Jekk grazzi ghal xi bus drivers li ddecidew li ma johorgux ghax-xoghol ghandna problema bhal din!
Anthony Busuttil
Jul 4th 2011, 10:13
Are they being offered wages and conditions same as Maltese.
The Maltese drivers are being paid peanuts, according to the conditions
imposed. British drivers you have to provide accomodationa and food. Maltese drivers they will only get their uniforms.
David Caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 10:12
Fire the cowboys! And good riddance to bad rubbish
Mr marco caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 10:12
huma x inhuma il kundizzjonijiet , l Arriva Zbaljat bil kbir meta impjegat certu ex-drivers mis servizz l antik.....milli rajt fuq it tv malaj tinduna bl-arroganza u qziez ta certu drivers li qet jipruvaw ifixxklu bil kbir is servizz il gdid .
grazzi
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 10:11
Give them residence permits (do they need them?) and basic Maltese lessons and those of them who want can stay here and replace the 56 that had something better to do than turn up for work.
Better foreigners - of any nationality, creed, or colour - which you can depend on than vindictive thugs left over from the old system.
I'd like to thank the dependable Maltese and English bus drivers who are working hard and in adverse conditions. Thank you guys (and gals).
Mr john vella
Jul 4th 2011, 10:28
@Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
By your write up you seem you have no foreign working experience.
Let me tell you Sir, I worked in a foreign country. Worked hard and was an envy to the locals. I and other foreigners where called 'Theygoes' because the locals hopes where for us to go home! and 'Displaced persons'. Because they believe we could not find work at home.
Now I see you mocking locals workers. If these men had a written contract and it was violated they did the right thing. Gone are the days where we pray to God to give wisdom to the boss and strength to the worker. A contract is binding to both parties.
Shame to the G.W.U. if it is not backing them, after all since this Secretary General took to power all we have seen is hot air and no one dare to put him down.
Mario Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 10:39
Naħseb li int xi wieħed minn dawk li jew qed tpappiha tajjeb jew ma tafx x'hinu xogħol.
Ir-regola li suppost għandha tkun hija li l-operatur jagħti s-servizz u mhux jiddetta hu x'għandu jingħata l-pubbliku. L-operatur minn dak li rajna u smajna fl-aħbarijiet huwa dominanti. Ir-regolatur li suppost huwa dmiru li jara li s-srvizz mitlub jingħata lill-pubbliku, qiegħed hemm għalxejn. Il-Gvern bħala l-osservatur fuq kollox, l-istess qiegħed gallarija, anzi kompliċi mal-operatur, finalment qieghed ibagħati l-publiku, l-aktar wieħed li jrid juża s-servizz u li ser iħallas għalih.
Ma nippretendix li jkun hemm 'teething prolems' f'dan is-servizz. U ser ikun hemm għax kollox sar bl-għaġġla u beda bil-maqlub tal-loġika.
Vicki Azzopardi
Jul 4th 2011, 10:46
Well said Gianfrancesco. Hopefully these new temps will settle down asap. These thugs should have never been employed with Arriva. Special thanks to all those who are helping to make this new system work.
Mr Charles Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 10:46
I agree totally.... I am not an arriva employee, or even use the bus EVER, but I want this to go smoothly.
BAN those thugs from the buses.... who cares about colour, creed or nationality in this modern world? Give me service!!! From whoever/wherever he/she is!
Finally, thank you to the maltese guys and girls who report in to work...
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 11:10
John Vella:
1. I worked abroad for many years and was never called anything, because I earned the respect of my colleagues and superiors.
2. I am not mocking local workers at all - I am praising them: "I'd like to thank the dependable Maltese and English bus drivers who are working hard and in adverse conditions. Thank you guys (and gals)." Can't you read?
3. What of all the other bus drivers who are showing bus drivers who are showing dedication and flexibility as well as empathy to commuters? Are they idiots?
Mr Peter Murray
Jul 4th 2011, 10:11
However,whilst waiting for the full story I would like to ask the GWU if the drivers coming from the UK are members of the union ,or an acknowledged and affiliated one,and if the union agreed to this temporary measure by Arriva-or even that the union were consulted prior to bringing these drivers here?just a thought .
Anthony Farrugia
Jul 4th 2011, 10:19
Mr Peter Murray: So besides being an "expert" on investments like the BOV property fund, you are also have "expertise" on running a bus service and trade union matters. Would love to have a peek at your CV lol !
Fran Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 10:24
Mr. Murray - put that question to the GWU directly !
Mr Tony Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 10:31
Peter-does it matter? It's only a temporary measure and other workers have jobs to go to.
Mario Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 10:48
Mr Murray,
As far as I am aware the GWU is at this moment not the official representative of the Arriva workers as there is no collective agreement as yet between them and the company.
Arriva only dealt with GWU because some of the staff were members with this union from previous jobs.
This being the case I don't think that Arriva need to get permission from anybody to get drivers from wherever they like and so it should be.
Bring in British bus drivers and then you will see the difference !!
Ms C. Dimech
Jul 4th 2011, 11:01
drone drone drone, union this and union that. Let's start by getting these people to work and then consider unions
Karl Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 10:10
It is very obvious that the Labour party has unofficially used the GWU to stir up trouble and use its members to throw in a spanner in the works and ruin the governments efforts to introduce a new bus service.
We all know how it works in Malta. Any new project or initiative has to be tainted due to political jealousy.
I challenge anyone to name a project, initiative or change in the country that hasnt been under fire by the labour party. I can name a few for those who do not wish to understand:
Malta's EU accession, adopting the Euro currency, strict hunting regulations, closure of the dockyards, state of the art Mater Dei hospital, wind farm projects, and last but not least, the stubborness and persistence in opposing the polluter pays priniciple.
Is this the positive party that we want in government?
Mr Luke Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 10:25
Min semma lil min f'dan l-artiklu, l-GWU qieghda taghmel ix-xoghol taghha, thares l-interessi tal-haddiema. Hadd ma semma Labour Party u ma hemm l-ebda ghira politika, kulhadd jaqbel li tibdil fil-posittiv huwa tajjeb. Minkejja li semmejt ukoll progetti fantazma (wind farm projects) u urejt int x'kulur u partit thaddan.
Fuq l-ahhar kumment tieghek, Yes the Labour Party is the Positive Party after 25 years of conservatisim.
Ryan Farrugia
Jul 4th 2011, 10:27
jimporta tejdli xanda xtaqsam l politika ma din il haga ? jekk ma jimpurtax ta :)
Ms B Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 10:28
"It is very obvious that the Labour party has unofficially used the GWU to stir up trouble and use its members to throw in a spanner in the works and ruin the governments efforts to introduce a new bus service"
My friend you are really agile and brain washed to mix up things that have nothing to do. Yes, really????? Oh my god, when I see these comments I realise why we are in the situation like we are today. You are judging others but in reality you are not behaving any different from the drivers that did not turn up to work.
Next in your imagination will be that Joseph Muscat led the bus drivers protest and that he is secretly going with a Gaffa in the night to put down bieb il-belt. Oh my God, ghal gol hajt int man.
Take off your blue glasses and get a life. This has nothing to do with red or blue. Why in Malta still exist people like you with such a twisted mind that can turn everything into politics? Hallat il-h.... mal-b..... man!
Anthony Scicluna
Jul 4th 2011, 10:36
F'gieh Alla. Karl nehhi did-dalma li ghandek quddiem ghajnejk. Int tidher wiehed minn dawk li jekk ma tghamilx xita titfa t-tort fuq il Partit Laburista ? Jew tghamel parti minn dawk li PN QATT ma jghamel wahda hazina ?
Mr Charles Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 10:47
Amen to that.... all you say is true....
Vicki Azzopardi
Jul 4th 2011, 10:47
NO surely not .....
Anthony Grech
Jul 4th 2011, 11:21
Proset Karl. Il- kumment tieghek rebah l-unur ta l-aktar kumment VOJT.
George Mifsud
Jul 4th 2011, 10:09
Wondering what would the British public would say if this was the other way round - importing foreigners to fill the temporary vacancies - surely a furore !!!!
Mr Peter Murray
Jul 4th 2011, 10:23
Bang on George as whoever is at fault this is not the way to go for Arriva or for the union to accept such unilateral action so casually
Fran Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 10:26
This is an abnormal situation that calls for abnormal solutions. So would you rather that Arriva keep on being held to ransom by a few who hold up the progress of the system and to hell with the commuters ?
Get your priorities rights please - we commuters also have rights.
Mr Tony Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 10:33
George- there have been many Maltese who have driven buses in the U.K. Of course, Maltese are not 'foreigners' in any country- we know that.
Carole Mason
Jul 4th 2011, 10:59
As I Britain who now permanently lives in Malta, I would rather have a foreign bus driver/fireman/doctor/policeman than no-one at all!
E. Azzopardi
Jul 4th 2011, 10:07
Their Union told them to go in for work. They defied their employer and their union. There is only one solution, only one: fire them all. And this is all the fault of those who guaranteed these drivers a job for ten years. Now is the time for them to lose their job. The vast majority of the citizens predicted that with these poeple there will be problems. And here they are. We never learn, do we?
Marianne Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 10:24
I cannot understand why all this is the fault of whoever promised the drivers a job for 10 years. This by no means implied that they could do what they liked. I'm afraid that certain bus drivers had got too used to the old way where they could bully their way around and get what they wanted by threats of violence. Have we forgotten the sight of the drivers with bare arms and threatening gestures and angry and violent attitudes? I think that as the old saying goes if we don't separate the chaff from the wheat the situation will remain as it was. They hadn't even started their new work and already they are creating trouble. Many workers are on probation for the first year of service in a new job. Either you do the business or you're out!!! Are we going to allow these people to run the show yet again? This time even the GWU is against them and has advised the workers to report for duty.
Ms K Bugeja
Jul 4th 2011, 10:06
this is a clear message...... You snooze you loose.
With every company there are rules to abide by. I remember a friend of my mother's. She was a nurse and they had to wear kaki trousers which were really uncomfortable due to the heat. But she did abide by the rules!
The image of the drivers was bloody disastrous ! ! ! ! ! come on! No smoking signs & the only one smoking is the driver. Swearing should not even be heard whilst one is working. COME ON! Why do you think everyone praises the foreigners? Now the foreigners have come to set things right in the bus business.
Clear message from Arriva: We will NOT be your puppets on a string. Your days of getting what you want are OVER. We are a company who gets things done!!
Maltin nfissdin wisq!!!
Mr M Mamo
Jul 4th 2011, 10:05
and some of you want us to stop blaming old drivers?
"There were also unconfirmed reports that some of the drivers who did not show up for work claimed that they had been threatened not to go to work."
KICK THESE IDIOTS!
Mr Charles Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 10:48
I would report them to the police!!!! threaten me? NO SIR!!! You got the wrong man!
Jean Claude Chetcuti
Jul 4th 2011, 10:04
These few drivers, who seem to have a very low IQ, should have been responsible enough to do their job and if they had any issues with their working conditions, they should discuss these round the table, as a proper gentleman would do. They have to forget the system of blackmail and threatening, as these days are over.
Hope that Arriva will get rid of these few bullies, as I would not want them to be driving my children around. People with such low intelligence should not be given such responsible jobs.
Mr Peter Murray
Jul 4th 2011, 10:02
EveryONE is an expert all of a sudden AND EVERYONE KNOWS THE FULL STORY.This whole affair stinks to high heaven and its very obvious that someone is not telling the whole truth-whether its the drivers,Arriva or even the Union only they truly know the full story behind this ridiculous situation and how it happened so very late in the day.Let's all wait for the truth to come out before passing judgment and condemning ALL concerned.
Mr john vella
Jul 4th 2011, 09:59
From the onset I believe that we needed a better transport system even if it had to come from Timbuktu!
BUT, I also strongly believe any dispute will never be settled by bringing in STRIKE BREAKERS!
In their country they are called SCABS!
No this is not the way to handled this situation!
Being a cuc malti I can tell the foreign experts that the whole thing was a flop from the word go.
If it was to be a transfer from one system to another it should have been done by areas (stages) first, and finally after it was experienced the way our system works than it was to become national!
STRIKE BREAKERS are always STRIKE BREAKERS in any language.
Shame on the GWU for allowing foreigners to replace local workers where do we go from here?
Fran Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 10:23
This is not a STRIKE - even the GWU told them to report for work. It would have been a strike if they had been instructed by the GWU to go out on strike - so get your facts rights. Some of the old timers seems to side with these protesting workers but not with the passengers who have had almost hell and were treated like sh....t by some of the arrogant bus drivers. Again, I stress there were some very good and reliable bus drivers but their fault was that they allowed the few to ruin their reputation.
Alex Falzon
Jul 4th 2011, 10:46
Jekk ma ssibx Maltin kapaci jew b'attitudni tajba... iva naqbel li jingiebu barranin
Philip Bonello
Jul 4th 2011, 09:59
Bringing in foreign workers to replace protesting maltese workers is tantamount to strike breaking and the GWU should not accept this. BTW, British bus drivers are as bad as our own drivers in the old bus service.
Mr M Mamo
Jul 4th 2011, 10:15
mr. bonello ... a strike is only legal when backed by a union and a strike is the last step after discussions etc ... now, these drivers did not engage in discussions and went directly to a strike option w/o union backing thus making the strike illegal.
Albert Debono
Jul 4th 2011, 10:55
they are not protesting workers the union of workers is at work doing as af=greed with arriva. those not working are simply out of work and thus unrepresented at this point
E Schembri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:57
Well done Arriva, dismiss the ones who did not show up and bring in the British drivers.
It is the fault of the Maltese drivers who think that they can do as they please and still get away with it.
Also, they should be prevented from claiming unemployment benefits as they had the chance to work and preferred to stay at home.
Philip Bonello
Jul 4th 2011, 09:54
May I suggest that the bus drivers who did not turn up for work, should now go in for work, have made their protest known; and later, if their grievance is not cleared, should collectively sue Arriva for breach of promise if there ever was one
Mr Charles Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 10:51
There never was a breach of promise.... it was written plainly on the contract... they are grumbling because for the first few weeks, it was realised that they have to work extra split shifts...
For 35Ewro extra, they agreed to work them ok.... boqq.... mela fuq il flus qed igergru.
Albert Debono
Jul 4th 2011, 10:55
nope sir! i say they had thier chance, they even cheated their own collegues!
Michael Bruce
Jul 4th 2011, 09:49
ARRIVA did invite those drivers who could not accept the split shift to return their uniforms, which is what some have done.Clearly many drivers were shocked when receiving their rosters and 56 or so appear to have decided that this is not a career for them.
David Xuereb
Jul 4th 2011, 09:46
Niftakar lil gonzi jghid fil-mass meetings li mhux ha jkun hemm iktar sfruttament tal-haddiem. Jiddispjacini nghid li ghad hawn hafna sfruttament tal-haddiem f'dan il-pajjiz b'pagi baxxi u litteralment il-haddiem spicca ma jistax jiftah halqu jaqbez ghad-drittijiet tieghu. Min jaf kemm ha jithallsu dawn ix-xufiera inglizi!
M Tonna
Jul 4th 2011, 09:45
Some bad apples that we can certainly do without!
Prosit Arriva !
Jeff Zammit
Jul 4th 2011, 09:45
At 7:30 I left home. In 10 minutes I was on Fgura stage, where I waited with a long queue. After a sweltering 25 minute, a passer-by remarked that all stages along Fgura were in the same dire situation. So I decided to walk to Paola interchange, where buses are much more frequent. As soon as I arrived two full up buses passed by. Fortunately a third bus appeared, but I left a long grumbling and deluded queue waiting for the Mater Dei bus in the sun. The road to Valletta was without mishaps. The traffic was horrendous. To pile it up, at Bombi interchange, the bus driver decided to stop for 5 minutes. He was waiting for another other Arriva driver to change his shift! What could have gone worse? I arrived at work at 9:00, 1.5 hours after leaving from home.
The moral of the story: I prefer old bumby buses with no a/c as long time tables are respected. For the time being I will not be using Arriva. I still have to wait for the outcome after school commences again.
Stephanie Caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 09:44
I hjop that the drivers who haven't shown up for work are fired immediately, and billed for any training received from Arriva.
I totally agree with Arriva for doing everything possible to rectify the situation.
Welcome to Malta to the British Drives
Mr Charles Portelli
Jul 4th 2011, 09:41
They've done it again. In place of arriva, I would have sacked the whole lot of the dissenting cowboys. Especially since agreement had been found with GWU.
They are lacking respect towards their employer who had guaranteed them bread to their families, and towards their colleagues who are now under strain because of their irresponsible actions.
Victoria Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 09:41
Did Arriva offer these British Drivers the same pay and conditions it offered the Maltese drivers?
As always we give very good salaries and other perks to foreigners and expect 'Cwiec Maltin' to work for peanuts and be treated like dirt. We also expect them to be thankful.
Raphael Stevens
Jul 4th 2011, 09:39
I'm afraid the buses are sabotaged on the road as well. It's not only the drivers who didn't show up. I was waiting yesterday in Pembroke park and ride bus stop for 1.5hrs for a bus to stop. When I got to the bus stop there was an arriva bus on emergency lights (reg. plate bus 11) waiting, then 3 arriva workers jumped on that bus - then they were just crusing around Pembroke outside of bus routes - just burning fuel. They were passing the bus stop few times - without stopping naturally.
During the 1.5hrs there were other empty buses just passing by - reg. plate "bus 30", "bus 72", "bus 96". One of them was even ironically smiling to the crowds on the bus stop - how nice!
So - have your mobile phones ready, if you encounter such situation record a movie - send it to Arriva.
Kurt Caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 09:38
Well Done Arriva!
don't worry.. this is great for your company as it's helping you filter OUT the bad apples in the lot...
Philip Borg Barthet
Jul 4th 2011, 09:38
Since they didn't show up they obviously don't want their jobs. Keep them as temp drivers until you fins permanent replacements and get rid of them.. They obviously don't want to work! Every time thus country tties to move forward, there always seems to be those who try to keep it back!
Mr Nyal Xuereb
Jul 4th 2011, 09:38
Minn ma iridx jahdem jitlaq u jaghmel post ghal haddiehor
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:30
DECENT MALTESE CITIZENS SHOULD BOYCOTT ARRIVA FOR GETTING FOREIGN DRIVERS TO UNDERMINE THE MALTESE DRIVERS WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS.
I SHALL NEVER USE YOUR SERVICE ARRIVA.
THOSE WHO ARE URGING ARRIVA TO BRING FOREIGN DRIVERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.
Dee Williams
Jul 4th 2011, 09:30
I agree.. get rid of the drivers who didn't turn up for work, and make them repay the money it's cost Arriva to train them. Why do the drivers have to speak fluent maltese... after all it's EU and freedom of movement. Well done Arriva for acting so quickly and bringing in british drivers. Let the one's who didn't show up for work join the unemployment queue.
Mr John Bonnici
Jul 4th 2011, 09:29
British drivers are not the solution!!! they would be worsening the situation, although they are highly trained in driving the bus, the do not have a clue of the routes or of our roads. Sorry to say, but Arriva was not prepared yet, but hope that in the long run they would be running smoothly.
Mr apple .
Jul 4th 2011, 09:29
B kull rispet ghalinqas bl Arriva bhalissa mhux sejrin tajbin pero bil qodma QATT ma morna tajjeb just accetajnijhom kif inhuma ghax ma kelnix ghazla. Jien ghalija ga improvement jekk id driver jirrispetak mux jharislek bl ikrah, jofendik jew tkun qieghed tistenna u jibqa ghaddej bix ma jiqafx ghal persuna wahda ! ajduwli kem il darba sibtu driver li kien pulit maghhkom , todom fuq subajk. B kull rispett x tipretendu li sistema gdida tindara mil ewwel ? din bhal meta xihadd jsib xoghol gdid nahseb kollha kontu tafu kollox mil ewwel ! Minn kif titkelmu il Maltin kollox perfett taghmlu ma tantx jidher !
Bernard Storace
Jul 4th 2011, 09:25
"Transport Minister Austin Gatt on Saturday said that workers who did not like the conditions and did not show up should be dismissed".....does this quote refer to members of parliament too, he, he, he?
Anyhow, if contractual conditions are not honoured then the worker has every right to protest until the contract agreement is adhered to. However, we shall be wiser with hindsight; still I am of the opinion that Arriva rushed in where angels fear to tread.....they'll learn soon enough especially knowing that TM is bending over forward to please them to the detriment of those who are not in the least interested in busses and never have been.
Mr SALVINU XUEREB
Jul 4th 2011, 09:25
WHY NOT ENROLE PARTIMERS. i THINK THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK A FOUR HOUR SHIFT
Mr Albert Farrugia
Jul 4th 2011, 09:23
Truth of the matter is: this has been a disaster all round, no way around it. (1) Would a decent private company inform its core workers (those it absolutely needs to offer its service) about their working conditions ONE DAY before they begin work? Much blame is being put on drivers, and they certainly should face consequences, but it is certainly horrible planning on the part of the company to leave this problem to be settled less than 24 hours before the service begins. But then, what if there is a bout of the flu, and more drivers than usual report sick? What then? Has the company no plans? Would it need to import British drivers in these circumstances?
(2) But what about the ticket machines not working? When so much was made of the possibilites offered by them? Was this also the drivers' fault? And the signage system?
(3)And what are we going to tell tourists visiting Malta this week? That they should understand? That we have "teething troubles"? That all will be ok on their next holiday?
(4)And what will we say to those people who we were trying to convince to keep their cars in their garage and take the bus because its convenient?
(5)And,above all, who is going to shoulder political responsibility for this mess?
Ms Monica Muscat
Jul 4th 2011, 09:23
I think that the blackmail game is being played by the drivers not Arriva. As far as I know, all prospective drivers were contracted after training and acceptance of the contract and conditions. If, ONLY IF, the dis-agreement is prolonged and the drivers have to accept going to work under normally unaccepted conditions, this, yes, will be erotion of workers rights. But in my humble opinion, this was all pre-planned. The drivers still think that they can do what they like. Just as they did every time that any Government tried to bring about a decent Public Stransport System: Starting with Perit Mintoff, Dr. Fenech Adami, and Dr. Gonzi. They have only themselves to thank for the arrival of a foreign company to lay the rules.
Do not get me wrong! I am all for the rights and good working conditions for all our Maltese drivers. If, this is all a pre-planned to undermine the system, I think the perpetrators have it coming.
All in all, I do hope everything is ironed out and we come to a stage were the "bad old days" will become just a memory. Do not forget everyone, that the hard work is not only on the workers but also on the directors, administrators and all the organizers.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:23
This is a disgusting situation where the workers are being undermined by Arriva and the Government by allowing foreign drivers to substitute Maltese drivers.
This is what being members in the eu means.
Foreign workers undermining Maltese workers who are fighting for their rights and working conditions.
LET THE FOREIGN DRIVERS KNOW THAT THEY ARE UNDERMINING THE MALTESE DRIVERS.
REMEMBER, QALBNA MAL-ĦADDIEMA.
HYPOCRITES.
Mr Tony Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 11:58
@ Mr. Camilleri-
When Malta signed up to the EU it meant any EU citizen could work in Malta, just as it gave the Maltese the right to work in Europe.
A vey good friend of mine, Joe Mallia (R.I.P.) worked for many years as a bus driver in Manchester, so it works both ways.
So get out of this typical xenophobic Maltese habit of running down 'foreigners' -remember if you go to Gozo you are a foreigner there, unless you were born there of course.
John Carmel Navarro
Jul 4th 2011, 09:22
Sabotage is the only word that can describe the behaviour of a minority of drivers, these few are doing their almost to stop Arriva from succeeding. Why in Malta as soon as something new comes on the scene there is always a section wanting to destroy progress. The narrow minded few just cannot see the wood for the trees it is not the Bus Company who is going to suffer but all the people who depend on the bus service to go about their business. Shame on anyone who seem to be hell bend to cause mayhem, unfortunately on our beautiful Island dare I say Political gain tends to come to the forefront. Shades of when Mater Dei first opened certainly people were just going in to cause damage, to discredit the state of the art Hospital.
Joseph Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:22
Well done to Arriva.
If Maltese workers do not want to work, foreign workers should come in.
Now let's see these people complaining that they are out of work!
Bring in the foreigners, I say, and let them work here instead of the Maltese.
I have no doubt in my mind that there are people out there trying to put spoke in the wheels to ensure that Arriva does not give what it promised. Arriva should work hard to overcome these elements.
Tony Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 09:22
The major problem is that Arriva are denying the facts. Stating that from Cirkewwa the service ir running as normal is one big fat lie. My Gozitan colleague has been waiting for the bus at Cirkewwa for over 2 hours. If that is nomal then God help us.
Lionel Gerada
Jul 4th 2011, 09:21
Trust me guys!! This morning I said it's a new beginning I went after 10yrs on the bus stage next to us in Marsascala and arrived there at around 7.30am... I had the leaflet in my hand saying that every 10minutes a bus will pass! I waited for 15min, 30min, 45 min, 1hr, 1hr 15min and still the bus didn't show up!! Normaly I start work at 8.30am and for sure I was very late I had to go to my house again to grab my car and drive to St. Julians! Finally I landed work.... Thanks Arrive this morning I was in big risk to loose my job!! I can in my father's words!! BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW.........
Noel Mifsud
Jul 4th 2011, 09:20
Ha nghaddi kumment fuq ir mrotot. Jine kont nahseb li se jkun hemm tipo ta big terminus Paola u is south jitiqu karozzi per kasu mill Isla Borrmla, Zabbar, Zejtun u jieqfu Paola u jibdlu in nies hemm biex tonqos il kongestjoni mit toroq vicin il belt. Mhix titlaq mill belt u tidhol l isla, bormla, birgu, kalkara, lanqas haqq ghad dawra li jiehdu in nies li specjalment ikunu sejrin ix xol. Fuq il haddiema, fil waqt li ma naqbilx ma li ghamlu, ghandhom dritt jistrkjaw jew jipprotestaw. Jien la jien mal Arriva u lanqas xufier. 200 eruso fil gimgha ghal 47 siegha jigu xi 3.50 euros is siegha, ma nafx dawn il haddiema Inglizi kemm se jigu hawn u jithallsu hekk. Samjt li ghandhom qrib in 9 euros is siegha fl Ingilterra. Jekk veru nitlob lil ETC tinvestiga u tara kif lil dawn ix xufiera ituwhom din ir rata, u lil Maltin din ir rata tal biki. Il bqajna nispera li jigi is servizz tajjeb ghal gid ta kulhadd. Grazzi
Paul Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 09:19
Is Arriva paying the same wages to the British drivers as the petty wages given to Maltese drivers? Arriva should shoulder all the blame for one cannot leave things till the last minute, namely putting up bus stops with no information, laying fast green lanes creating traffic havoc to commuters for the last three weeks, not settling the time schedules and wages to drivers and many other unsolved problems. The emphasis was made solely on the brand new busses, but no attention was given to the people driving them, instead were treated as third class European citizens.
“Insomma Maltese cwiec xi hadd ghajjarna!!!!
I know Maltese bus drivers in England getting paid four times the wages with better conditions with the same company Arriva. Arriva should come down to earth and realize that Maltese drivers should be treated equally as in the European Union or have we forgotten the advantages for joining???
Surely we can do away with the arrogance displayed by Minister Austin Gatt. After all who is running Arriva? He should have resigned weeks ago over the Divorce issue.
Helen Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 09:17
Why the heck did they employ the 'old' bus drivers?
Fiona Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:15
BRING ON ARRIVA!
So pleased that Malta have finally joined the rest of the world in having a suitable bus system.
Yes there are some teathing problems but what new company doesnt?
Shame on the 60 bus drivers who have caused all these problems and I do hope Austin Gatt sticks to his words and has then ALL dismissed.
The only thing I would say is that the change over should have happened in the winter months when there are less tourists around are these delays are causing unhappy tourists who are being left stranded on bus stops not knowing if they will ever get to the place they wish to visit (I work in a hotel).
For the rest I am sure Arriva will be running smoothly sooner rather than later with all NEW driver.
Mr twanny borg
Jul 4th 2011, 09:11
ix-xufiera ghandhom ragun ghax l-arriva kisret il-kuntratt. il-gwu diga' ittradiet lil dawn ix-xufiera. dawn ix-xufiera maltin ghandhom jithalsu ank jekk ma jithallewx jahdmu skont il-kuntratt. li kieku x-xufiera kisru l-kuntratt x'kien jigri? il-paga ofruta hija tal-qamel. kemm se jithalsu x-xufiera inglizi? il-maltin ghandhom jithallsu daqs l-inglizi. dan mhux serq lil haddiem malti? m naghtix tort lix-xufiera li jitilfu l-pacenzja wara hafna tradimenti bil-pulit.
Mr Victor Laiviera
Jul 4th 2011, 09:06
Those who are gloating over this sad event are being very short sighted. This is another blow at the rights of workers to fight for decent conditions and pay. It is nothing short of industrial blackmail. I am shocked that the GWU is standing for this.
Every Maltese workers - at whatever level and of whatever political colour, should protest and demand that their Unions/Associations show solidarity.
Mr Joshua Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 09:11
sorry but this is not just about working conditions.. these are bad tempered drivers who want to make trouble. If there was a problem the union would not tell them to go to work .. and many more drivers would not go to work . end of
Mario Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 09:14
Mr Laiviera...try pulling the other one !!!!!!
Mr Neville A Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 09:19
Excuse me? What ? Yes as a worker you have rights..... but first you have to start working ! These havent even clocked 24 hours and they`re already crying murder!
Mr Joseph Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 09:22
Mr. Laiviera, the GWU made an agreement with Arriva that the split shift is only temporary and that those who have to work split shift are to be paid 35 Euros extra! So what you are saying is totally irrelevant!
Mr carlos ellul
Jul 4th 2011, 09:22
Or its more of a case of having people abusing from their workers rights to push certain agendas.
Mr Louis Muscat
Jul 4th 2011, 09:25
They knew the conditions and pay before they started, so why have they accepted and waisted everybody's time to show them the routes etc. After all, if it's because the Split shift, the majority of salesman/salegirls at shops have split shifts, so what's wrong with it.
And why should we support them, when this morning had to wait for an hour for the bus, all because they tried to sabotage the system.
Mr C Briffa
Jul 4th 2011, 09:31
@Victor, The big blow would be if GWU supported those arrogant so called bus drivers who yesterday tried to subotage the system. If any body is unjustified absent from work you cannot prentend that the union will support you. Otherwise Arriva will become another monster always under the treath of arrogant people. These bus drivers were not forced to work for Arriva
With regards to the bus drivers conditions they sure are better off then when they used to work on the old buses, some had to work longer hours but they never complained so why now they making all this fuss?
Mr Chris Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 09:33
I think it is Mr Laiviera and these 50 odd bus drivers who are being very short sighted. The drivers made their point last week and the management listened and said it would revise the roster. Full stop, end of story. But it seems these drivers had other intentions:namely to call the shots ad show who's boss. They tried to do this a few years ago trying to ground Malta to a halt. Having milked the system for decades ( subsides for old buses, subsidies for new buses, subsidies for mothballing their buses), they are now trying to milk the new bosses. Well guess what? Neither the new bosses, nor the public will have any of it. And the unions know this.
I will show solidarity when these people start to care about the amount of pollution they caused, when they apologise for the amount of distress to the old, and dsadvantaged who had to use their service in the past, when they act like gentlemen, see what their contract stipulates and do their jobs. This was a well co-ordinated plan to cripple the service at the start and give Arriva a bad name. Another word for it is industrial sabotage.
Mr M Cachia
Jul 4th 2011, 09:41
These men have more than decent conditions and pay for the job that they are doing. This is all about a split shift which is normal for a number of jobs. If these men don't like it they can leave and find other jobs I'm sure. The public has had enough of their bullying tactics and you should be ashamed for taking their side against that of the public!
Fran Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 09:49
Mr. Laiviera - maybe you have not noticed but the time that certain employees hold private companies or government to ransom by threatening strike action is past. I am not saying that the workers should not fight (I would not use the word 'fight' - it is outdated in this century) the word is stand up for their rights. What you call blackmail has been going on by workers who decide to strike without giving a chance to sort out the problems and they could not care less about the hardship caused to innocent people who are hit by the strike. They are in the GWU and it has done what is was meant to do, reasonably and without any threats. The GWU told the workers what they should do, and they decided to ignore the Union - this is a problem for the Union to solve because it seems they do not have the stamina to stand up for workers who are unreasonable. I would show solidarity by all means to well meaning workers whose rights are trampled upon, but once the Union is there to protect them I do not have to do any more.
Ms C. Dimech
Jul 4th 2011, 09:56
Mr. Laiviera we are FED UP of hearing of these peoples rights, it is about time someone informs them about their duties!!! We are so mollycoddled in this country, we think that everything is owed to us, that these private companies who invested millions in Malta are going to babysit their workers like the government does as an employer.
Hats off to Arriva for taking this action and putting the customer first. If these workers really wanted to fight for a better pay they should have done it before yesterday, instead of trying to sabotage the new system. They should be fired en block and not allowed to register. I, as a tax payer, refuse to pay for these good for nothings.
Mr Steve Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 10:00
ma xebawx jiehdu flus min fuq l-poplu u hadd ma jikmandahom?
Spicca dak z-zmien! issa jekk iridu joqghodu ghar-regoli ta l-Arriva jew isibu xol alternattiv!
tghid mhux ha nuri solidarjeta ma nies li hammgu l-image ta malta mat-turisti, karozzi mimlija hmieg, jdahhnu u hlief jghallmu l-kliem hazin lit-turisti ma kienux kapaci jaghmlu? xsolidarjeta trid turi?
(aparti s-serq ta flus mit-turisti!)
Ms S Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 10:03
min ma joghgbux ix xoghol imur isib xoghol iehor.
Ghass u iktar ghass hawn Malta!!!
Christopher Scerri
Jul 4th 2011, 10:09
BEST COMMENT SO FAR AGREE 100%
A Cuschieri
Jul 4th 2011, 10:10
You discuss first and protest later. You don't just NOT turn-up for work - that's ignorance and lack of respect towards the public and your employer.
When you have a problem with the terms, you sit down and discuss - but you do this early on not 2 days before you start working. After all I assume that they know the pay when they signed the contracts.
I'm not saying they should just stay to whatever they're told to do. If you don't agree with something you should voice your opinion - but this should be done respectfully and not by not turning up for work. Because of this, other innocent individuals ended up turning up late for work and some would end up having to take the hours delay from their own leave. This isn't professional.
If you don't like the terms - just quit ... the problem is that these people are used to do whatever they want and abused of a system that had plenty of flaws. Now all this has stopped and they simply cannot accept it.
In my opinoin, these British drivers that came over should be kept operating in Malta (if they want) and whoever didn't turn up for work should be fired.
Twanny Scerri
Jul 4th 2011, 10:33
Mr.Laiviera,
I am also a worker who pays taxes and OBEYS the law. What about my rights? This morning due to these wannabe 'kings of the road', I was late getting to work. Will you be my defender when my PRIVATE employers dock my pay for being two hours late? Please note that their Union found nothing wrong with the split shift and only a minority did not turn up for work. If they don't like the conditions, get out and stop trampling on my rights. The days when 'the workers aristocracy' ruled are over Mr. Laiviera. Deal with it or else move to China or North Korea. I'm sure you'll be more than welcome. I heard that everybody has equal rights there....duh
M. Chircop
Jul 4th 2011, 09:06
Soluzjoni wahda... KECCU lil dawk li ghadom jahsbu li jistghu jaghmlu li jridu
Noeleen Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 09:22
NAQBEL MIEGHEKKKK
Oriana Borg Pace
Jul 4th 2011, 10:04
totally agree
Joseph Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 09:05
Ha ha!! Good one. Well done Arriva. Fire the old buses drivers and get decent british ones. That's the way to go to get a proper service. And by the way, GWU can go fishing now as they did not even try to make an effort to get their workers back to work.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:25
Joseph Borg J'ALLA DAK LI QED TIXTIEQ LIX-XUFIERA MALTIN JIĠRI LILEK ĦALLI NARAW JEKK TIBQAX TIRRAĠUNA HEKK.
Pia Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 09:36
Why on earth should they try and make an effort to get their workers back to work? These people DELIBERATELY went through all the motions, all the training, to give us their final payback by not showing up today. "Pattewilna sew".
They have been trying to use strong-arm tactics since I was a child, they have bullied the people, the government, the unions into getting their way. They were guaranteed work, and still think that they have every right to do with us what they will.
NO more, you few bus drivers that give all of Maltese bus drivers a bad name. Get out of our public transport system, and let's make way for some REAL public transport.
Mr J Xerri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:39
Why all these attacks against the GWU. If you follow the media you would surely have heard the appeals by the GWU for drivers to reportf or work and you cannot say that the appeal was not accepted when the majority of drivers - over 400 - turned up for work.
R. Gauci
Jul 4th 2011, 09:53
Ma nafx ghaliex qed tifrah sur Borg, ghax kellek kumpanijja barranijja li gabet haddiema barranin biex jahdmu flok il-Maltin? U l-GWU x'ghandha x'taqsam? Sa fejn naf jien ikkoperat mal-Gvern.
Mr Daniel Jones
Jul 4th 2011, 09:02
Those drivers who haven't shown up for work should be fired immediately, and also be billed for any training they received from Arriva.
Its the only language these curs understand.
Well done Arriva for doing everything possible to rectify the situation.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:26
Mr Daniel Jones HOPE THAT THE SAME HAPPENS TO YOU AND YOU ARE KICKED OUT OF YOUR JOB. THEN WE SHALL SEE WHETHER YOU WILL CONTINUE TO REASON LIKE THIS.
Mark Bishop
Jul 4th 2011, 09:02
"services from Cirkewwa and at Gozo are running as planned"
This is WRONG because we are still waiting in Cirkewwa since the 7:00am ferry.
Ms P.M Graham
Jul 4th 2011, 08:59
I can't imaging British drivers will work for 35 euro's a day.
It's a shame that a few have decided to spoil this transition. I would have thought more of them if they had done their jobs whilst allowing the powers that be to sort it out, (which i am sure they will) and not affect the public service.
Mr Joshua Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 09:23
they are not working for 35 euros a day , not even maltese people. At the moment most of them are on split shift.. that means the normal 35 euros, and an extra 35 euros on top of that.
Mr Graham Holme
Jul 4th 2011, 09:31
Ms P M Graham
Remove the ruling that all drivers must be fluent in Maltese,Arriva then advertises in Britain for drivers to come work,live in Malta,along with some sort of assisted relocation,accommodation package.Sure they would be overwhelmed with applicants,a chance to come live,work in the sun
As previously stated,as an ex bus coach driver from the UK,with over 30 years driving under my belt,now living in Malta,I would be tempted to come out of retirement,but 60 years old next year,maybe my bus driving days are over?
Mr M Cachia
Jul 4th 2011, 09:42
Lets repeat ourselves again - the pay is Euro 200 a week plus 35 a day if you work split shift....
Fran Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 09:52
Do not bring in the subject of remuneration. That is not your problem Ms. Graham. Arriva are doing their best to give us a service in any way possible.
Robert Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:59
jien nahseb li min ghamel ir rotor hawwad kollox ta!! hemm wisq dawrien zejjed!! jien miniex haddiem ta l arriva imma qedt nara hafna kumenti li jwahhlu fil haddiema ghax ma marrux ghax xoghol!! jien ma ntijomx tort sa l ahhar il dawn il haddiema ghax kull ma qeghdin jaghmlu jiggieldu ghad drittijiet taghhom!! taf x naf jien li l haddiema maltin sirna qisna skjavi nahdmu hinijiet redikoli u pagi tal biki
E Schembri
Jul 4th 2011, 10:03
They are not fighting for their rights. They just want to do what they want.
€35 a day is not a bad pay! Its about €1000 a month for driving a bus!
Robert Camilleri
Jul 5th 2011, 09:27
%schembri!! int bis serjeta jew 35 euros ija paga tajba ghal livell tal hajja f malta!!
jekk tiekol hobz bil butir , m ghandekx karozza, u ma tuzax dawl u ilma isservik
Mr Christian Spiteri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:58
Shame on the protestors. cannot call them bus drivers cause they haven't drove a bus yet!! Impressive the arriva measures to give us a service by bringing foreign drivers. I urge arriva to dismiss the protesting drivers.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:27
Mr Christian Spiteri SHAME IS ON YOU AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE BLAMING THE MALTESE DRIVERS FOR FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS.
MAY YOU RECEIVE WHAT YOU ARE WISHING FOR THE DRIVERS A THOUSAND TIMES OVER.
Mr Jo Meli
Jul 4th 2011, 08:55
Well done Arriva :)
The ONLY way some morons listen is when "fire is fought with FIRE".
Over and out !
Mr Karl Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 09:07
A big well-done to Arriva thats the way it should be done Maltese drivers dont want to work then get British ones dont worry. Once again well-done Arriva good said Fire is to be fought with FIRE
Ms K Bugeja
Jul 4th 2011, 10:16
Very very well said!
Maltin nfissdin wisq!
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 08:52
Good decision. Other drivers should be trained as soon as possible to replace the ones to be fired today.
Ivan Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:50
Hard as it sounds, i would have never allowed the old buses' drivers to be included in the new system. All this was expected.....many of them will never accept that Malta decided to have a modern bus system, unlike the shabby one we had for the last 50 years.
Having said this, i'm pretty sure the new service will be up & running smoothly on a short period of time. ARRIVA knows how to handle such situations & their vast experience will prove them right!
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 4th 2011, 09:08
The claim was that only 100 out out of the 600 were from the old system.
Mr Mario P. Sciberras
Jul 4th 2011, 08:50
Is this an unofficial strike or the resignation of almost 60 drivers?
How many of these drivers are from the old system and how many are new recruits?
Something is wrong somewhere.
Jesmond Mugliett
Jul 4th 2011, 09:19
imma kif dejjem tridu twahhlu fil-Gvern....kieku lid-drivers li kienu mas-sistema l-antika l-Gvern ma ggarantilhomx ix-xoghol fis-servizz il-gdid mur ara kemm kontu tghidu u kemm kienu jsiru strikes qabel. Issa lil dawn inghatatilhom opportunita u hemm min minnhom, ghax ma tista' qatt tiggeneralizza, li ma haduwiex, issa min ma jridx jahdem isibu replacements taghhom u nimxu l-quddiem. Biex taghmel riforma u bidla radikali bhal din mhux facli u ovja li ghal-ewwel ftit granet ikun hemm ftit diffikultatjiet, ahseb u ara meta ssib bhal dawn in-nies jippruvaw ifixxklu, pero`
Jesmond Mugliett
Jul 4th 2011, 10:43
imma kif dejjem tridu twahhlu fil-Gvern....kieku lid-drivers li kienu mas-sistema l-antika l-Gvern ma ggarantilhomx ix-xoghol fis-servizz il-gdid mur ara kemm kontu tghidu u kemm kienu jsiru strikes qabel. Issa lil dawn inghatatilhom opportunita u hemm min minnhom, ghax ma tista' qatt tiggeneralizza, li ma haduwiex, issa min ma jridx jahdem isibu replacements taghhom u nimxu l-quddiem. Biex taghmel riforma u bidla radikali bhal din mhux facli u ovja li ghal-ewwel ftit granet ikun hemm ftit diffikultatjiet, ahseb u ara meta ssib bhal dawn in-nies jippruvaw ifixxklu, pero` wara dawn l-ewwel diffikultajiet zgur li kulhadd ser jara differenza assoluta u servizz modern li jixraq....filfat minkejja certi dewmien id-differenza diga harget.
Mr A Spiteri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:50
the fact that these drivers are using this opportunity to inflict a damage on Arriva should only be blamed on the government!
It was the government who obliged Arriva to employ these drivers. Arriva, as any other private business, should have been left free to employ anyone who fits the company’s needs.
But government officials and ministers always want to get involved in these kinds of situations in order to score some political points and the inventible end result is the current fiasco!
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100127/local/bus-owners-agreement-compensation-raised-to-55m.291525
“The government is also offering a 10-year job guarantee to drivers who join the new company which will operate the bus service”
Jonathan Scerri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:49
If ARRIVA was a reputable company, it would have dry run the service a week before. As a taxpayer paying double the subsidies (compared to the old boneshakers) I'd expect at least an equal service in the first few days.
The drivers should have been given their tentative roster weeks ago. Those who wouldn't like it, would have gone and would have been replaced.
I can't imagine how a bendy bus sticks on its route! Hasn't this been tried at least once before?
How do the electronics fail on Day 1? Had they been tried and tested?
Why are most bus-stops still lacking timetables?
Where are my taxes going?
Mario Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 08:48
Well done to Arriva for making a stand against these bully boys who try to sabotage a new service on the first day. The days of holding the government and employers to ransom is gone forever. These bully boys have shot themselves in the foot and can now enjoy the benefit of unemployment !!!
Knowing the Maltese mentality I hope that the Police will take severe action on anybody who might be caught damaging Arriva property such as the buses themselves in order to retaliate .
Transport Malta should waiver the clause about drivers having to be Maltese and let Arriva employ who they want. After all we are an EU member and there should be freedom of movement for workers from member countries.
Getting used to the routes should not be a problem with satnavs these days.
We need to be patient as this is NOT Arriva's fault . This is all down to the sheer ignorance and selfishness of a mindless minority of people who do not want change for their own selfish reasons.
Once again a huge well done to Arriva for making a stand against bully boy tactics.
R. J Bernard
Jul 4th 2011, 08:48
We could have told Arriva if only they had asked...it's one thing running succesfull routes all over Europe and dealing with international business people but upset the mighty Maltese bus driver and...OH Dear!
Keith Goodlip
Jul 4th 2011, 08:47
By getting, temporarily, the foreign drivers, Arriva means that these 56 drivers will no longer work with the company. Arriva should also seek damages from these EX-drivers.
E Libreri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:45
Ahna il-maltin vera ma nafux niehdu gost b'xejn gdid,dejjem nippruvaw naraw x'ha nghamlu biex nirrovinaw dak kollhu li hu progress.Min dejjem hekk konna u hekk ha nibqaw nahseb .Dawn id drivers li qed iwaqqaw l-isem tal-kumpanija fil-baxx u maghha anke Malta ghandhom bzonn jigu mwissija u jekk hemm bzonn imkeccija..Hawn hafna nies li jridu jahdmu vera u f'post iddixxiplinat , ghax qabel qisna go gungla konna meta titla fuq tal-linja, min kollox kont issib..Imisna niehdu gost bil- progress u ghal affarijiet li huma ghal gid tghana u tal-pajjiz u mhux inwaqqawh hekk fil-baxx...
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:24
IMISSEK TISTĦI TGĦID HEKK DWAR ĦUTEK ĦADDIEMA MALTIN.
MIN JAF KIEKU KONT INT U JAGĦMLULEK HEKK X'KONT TGĦID?
FTAKAR LI ĦADD WARA ĦADD TASAL TA' KULĦADD.
Mr Graham Holme
Jul 4th 2011, 08:40
Why must the bus drivers have to be fluent in Maltese?With the vast majority of the Maltese people speaking English.Shame,as an ex bus,coach driver from the UK,living in Malta.I was thinking of coming out of retirement
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 09:11
Graham: You'd be very welcome. Just learn some Maltese - you could probably wing it by just having a 'decent' level. But Maltese is our national language (two official ones but one national one), so it is many things to us and an intrinsic part of our identity, and you are expected to be sensitive to that.
Besides, it is - by far - the dominant spoken language in Malta and the language the customers (in this case, the Maltese) prefer to speak and Arriva are clearly also sensitive to that, and I would expect their drivers to be so too.
Plus the Maltese tend to be lenient and encouraging with foreigners who speak Maltese and make mistakes. Try it - learning another language isn't as difficult as it seems. If you've been living here for a while surely you've picked up a few words and perhaps can string together a sentence or two?
Alex Falzon
Jul 4th 2011, 09:12
Mr. Holme... I would suggest that you apply for the post.... you might be lucky and have the job.... experience will count
Emanuel Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 09:21
emanuel tabone
listen to him go for 35 euros a day.
Mario Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 10:09
Do it Graham !!!
Just practice ''Ejja Guz '' lol
Transport Malta should stop discriminating against non Maltese speaking drivers. Let Arriva employ who they see fit for the job because it is the only way forward.
I Bugeja
Jul 4th 2011, 10:47
Dear Mr Holme if you want to get a job you should do an effort. It took too long to get rid of substandard customer service on buses. We don't want to go back to that - not speaking the language your patrons speak is sub standard!
Mr Graham Holme
Jul 4th 2011, 10:58
With respect .I am the first to endorse,your language,your identity is paramount.When in Rome? but on a lighter note.To become a fully fledged Maltese bus driver? would have to learn how to text,smoke,eat a sandwich,drink a cup of coffee,shout,curse at my passengers,and drive at the same time,no easy task,when us men cant even multi task.
Serious,respect to the lads,lasses,doing their best to get Arriva up and running,your doing a great job,keep up the good work
Ramon Mangion
Jul 4th 2011, 08:40
Someone is trying to sabotage the system ? maybe the old bullies ?
Tonio Bone
Jul 4th 2011, 08:38
It was already a feat for the service to be flawless with a full driver compliment, imagine with 56/60 less.
MICHAEL ZAMMIT
Jul 4th 2011, 08:37
PLAIN AND SIMPLE SABOTAGE, THERE IS THE HAND OF SOMEONE BEHIND.
M Vella***
Jul 4th 2011, 09:03
@MICHAEL ZAMMIT,I agree 100%,Austin Gatt we need you again, please help.
Ray Pace
Jul 4th 2011, 08:37
Now all will see the real difference the British drivers will make on our roads. The defaulting drivers are making an injustice to their own colleagues and to their union which told them to work. Hope that the necessary disciplinary measures will be taken against these defaulting drivers. People have been on the bus stop since 5.30am and are now still on a bus travelling to Valletta, already over an hour late for work.
jane deguara nee hughes
Jul 4th 2011, 08:34
i would sack all the drivers, they don't deserve a job on the buses.. it just proves how stupid they are. get rid of them i am sure you can find new drivers. and good luck to all the drivers who turned up for work... keep it up Arriva
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 4th 2011, 08:34
What a disaster, didn't Arriva forecast what would happen? the Old Bus drivers were expected to cause trouble as they were irate that their old system was going to stop. Arriva should have started the service on 1st July so that by Monday teething troubles would be known. Seems that Arriva was not made aware of the local situation. Meanwhile it seems that residents of siberia ( Jerma - Cerviola) area in Marsascala which is the largest residential area in the village are now served with 5 buses an hour going to Zejtun area and no bus to Valetta! The Bus to Cospicua has been removed1 To get to Valletta residents areexpected to walk 15 mins to the area near Grabiel to get no 91?? My elderly mother certainly cannot walk this distance for a bus to Valletta. Complaints to Arriva Customer care generated a response that 'those are the rules' and a revision will be made in 6 months time! also to 'complain to the Local Council' so were the Local Councils consulted about these stupid routes and accepted them?? How can residents from Jerma area get to Zabbar and Cospicua now?? By a roundabout route through the Airport or Paola?? This is total lunacy and if Transport Malta decided these new routes - why?? To annoy residents?? Action is needed now and not in 6 months time. Bus no 91 should follow the old Bus no 17 route - ie through Triq Salini, and out through Triq Qaliet back to near Grabiels, then residents in this area can be served as otherwise it will be a Bus Dis-service!
S. Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:44
Arriva are following routes set by TM. Did you expect anything better from TM... Did you know they are the new MEPA?
Mr Tony Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 09:34
Mr. Abela-
When in Malta I stay in Siberia (I like that name) and I agree. However, on the old system if one caught a bus from Paola for Marsascala it was usually filled with passengers going just as far as Zabbar, even though Zabbar had its own route. So things were not perfect under the old system.
A Cordina
Jul 4th 2011, 08:30
"The company said services from Cirkewwa and at Gozo are running as planned". I don't think so. This morning at 6.30am no bus was seen at Cirkewwa! and the bus service in Gozo will work as planned when all bus stops will be erected. As at this morning I did not see any Arriva bus stop in Nadur!
Mr Joe Frendo
Jul 4th 2011, 08:29
Should the Arriva Marhsals at the inter changes help out in the situation rather to be the first to complain? I could not believe it when I heard one of the Arriva person 'who is from the old system' complaining that with the system 'Morna ghal ghar b'Arriva!! ... We are going to the worst with the Arriva!' thus citing more customers to be frustrated. e continued to stated, that with the old system, a bus used to pass every 5 minutes from here! ... now it take ages with Arriva!.
Have these people be given the necessary training on how to easy frustration with your customers during the first days of the service since everyone knows that a new system will have hiccups or it was just a marketing issue?
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 09:15
Joe: please report him to Arriva. Employees/drivers sabotaging the system ultimately lead to us commuters getting stranded or not getting the service we deserve.
Robert Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 08:29
Well done Arriva for outsourcing drivers. This shows that the company is really determined to offer a good service!
Joseph Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 08:27
The drivers who did not turn upshould be sacked immediately.Arriva needs to show one and all that it means business. Business is about getting a job done and delivering on time. Arriva should take all measures necessary NOW.
NOEL DARMANIN
Jul 4th 2011, 08:27
My personal opinion THIS is the wrong timing for a start the Arriva service. I noticed that works are still in progress in all treminus and interchanges and still without Shelters and kiosks. In the last two months works started in all interchanges. And what about the state of the road tarmac and what is going to happen in the winter rainy days. Have you considered the flow of water at Marsa interchange??
AS NOTICED, drivers are now using more their own private cars as the timing and the interchanges takes more time to travel. Expect more traffic jams AT PEAK HOURS. i HAVE BEEN AT BUS STOPS THIS MORNING AND PEOPLE AGAIN WAITING FOR A BUS TO GO TO THEIR WORK LATE.
Mr Joe Caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 08:24
Shame on the 56 drivers who did not show up. They are sabotaging the service without any respect whatsoever for the travelling public. If the drivers continue with this sabotage, Arriva should sack them immediately.
Michael Tanti
Jul 4th 2011, 08:21
Any bus driver that does not show up for work should be Fired on the spot. There actions are just like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum when they cant have that new toy. They should have to cover up any tattoos and take out piercings and if they dont like it they can hand over there uniforms. You are not Making Arriva look Bad you are just proving how Spoiled you have been over the past 40 years with bad manners and rudeness
Mr Neville A Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 08:41
If you run for President.... you`ve got my vote!
These Bus drivers think they can run the country or what? Crying babies.... cause they cant show how tough they are with their earings and tatoos?
Show me what a bully you are by getting your customers from A to B, safely and in time. Get that done... and you get my respect.
Tatoos and earings?... want to eat peanuts whilst on duty too?
Mr Brian Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 08:56
Thumbs up. Agree 100 %
Mr Matthew Grima
Jul 4th 2011, 09:32
Mr Cassar.
What wrong with tattoos and earrings
Ms Elaine Galdes
Jul 4th 2011, 10:24
I do agree 100% with what both of you said, however Mr N A Cassar, whoever have earings and tattoos does not mean that they want to show how tough they are or otherwise. Some people just like tattoos and see them as an art, expressing one self and most of the time every tattoo has a meaning to the person. However if the company's policy is not to show any tattoos and piercings, every employee should abide by it. The mentality of whoever has a tattoo is tough needs to stop.
I have 2 small tattoos myself and I did not regret doing a single one of them. However when I did these tattoos, I did them for myself and not to show them off to anyone. Sometimes, yes my tattoos do show and are difficult to hide but if my employer's policy is no tattoos than I know that they have to be covered and either accept the situation or I find another job. Rules are rules.
Mark Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 08:16
Arriva worked hard in the last months, and now they're hard work is being reflected badly by a number of bus drivers. These cowboy drivers should be dismissed, and Arriva should employ new drivers. I'm sure that there are a number of people who are willing to work as bus drivers for this new company.
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 4th 2011, 09:06
I'm sure one could find new drivers but only if the pay and conditions are right.
Maybe someone from Arriva could tell us if the British drivers on loan, will be on the same conditions and wages as their Maltese counterparts?
Mario Tabone
Jul 4th 2011, 09:12
Dr Bezzina,
How can you mention the old bus service in the same sentence as sovereignty and independence ?
Do you advocate that we remain in the middle ages ? Keep buses that are over 60 years old . A business which was a monopoly and allowed a few owner drivers to hold the country to ransom?
The fact that Arriva is not a Maltese company is possibly the best thing that could happen seeing that it can get rid of that Maltese mentality which you advocate.
We have or have been given the chance to have the most modern bus service in the EU and should bend over backwards to make the most of it.
The public outcry should be directed at those who are trying to sabotage this new era and so called dogooders like your kind self who try and influence the public with partisan talk and general rubbish about Malta being for the Maltese etc. Reminds me of 1960's Labourite nonsense !!!!
Dr Bezzina, I have nothing against you personally as I am glad to say I don't know you but I pray to God you never try to get into public office as the last thing this island needs is people like your kind self at its helm.
DR EMMANUEL BEZZINA,MA,MAG.JUR.[EU Law],LL.D.,
Jul 4th 2011, 08:16
This is not fanatasism but this craze of having major institutions in our sovereign and independent State run by foreigners will prove a major disaster to our country and to our people, to our economy and to our overall well being.There is alot of psychology that has to be delved into, in this case about the nature of our public transport. The service always had alot of public complaints,it was subjected to strikes with maximum inconvenience to the people,increase in bus fares did not ameliorate the situation,some bus drivers were indeed a horrid illustration of civility,but it was maltese ``negotiating`` with maltese and based on the maxim that national confraternity finally attained a working outcome,this unsatisfactory service managed to hold on.
As with Air Malta,and other vital local institutions,this country is selling its soul to foreigners who definitely are investing alot,but our national identity is being lost in the meanwhile.This is going to lead to very serious public outcry as our pride in sovereignty and independence is being fast eroded.All hope for a solution in the public interest,but let us not forget that Malta welcomes all with a reminder that the Maltese in their country are the hosts and ultimately direct and dictate what occurs in our country.
WELCOME ALL - DOWNTRODDEN BY NO FOREIGNERS HOWEVER !!
Tonio Bone
Jul 4th 2011, 08:37
Dear Dr Bezzina,
There is no country in today's world that is able to keep everything in-house. I, as much as you, would love to see Maltese companies owned and run by Maltese, but then there are market trends and the trend right now is for globalisation.
With regards to public transport in Malta, as with many other services, there was a situation of demagogy and these people practically worked-to-rule. In such cases, the only solution is a clean slate, whatever the consequences.
Mr wenzu montesin
Jul 4th 2011, 08:39
if foreign investors bring along improvement, they are more then welcome. i don't see how we can loose our pride and identity by dealing with foreigners and adopt foreign policies. i would say we are opening up our cultural boundaries, enriching our identity and above all stop being a forsaken piece of rock but be part of a larger european and worldwide system!!!
Ms Rita Smith
Jul 4th 2011, 08:40
Mur obsor ghalik Sur AvukaT. Yes our identitiy is being lost. Yes very much so since you were so PRO-DIVORCE. You did not think much about our identity being lost then. Mela when it suits some people and for their convenience we do as the Europeans because we are in Europe but in this particular thing it seems we are not in Europe. U hallina sur avukat u ghamel xoghol sew fil-Qorti u halli lil haddiehor jaghmel xogholu fejn int ma tifhimx.
Rita Smith
Mr joseph cini
Jul 4th 2011, 09:16
As a lawyer you should also know that these drivers are positioning themselves for civil action by their employer, the government and any individual or group of individuals for any loss of income and inconvenience caused by their actions.
Health and Safety as well as the wishes of the long suffering traveling public should remain paramount here.
Questions of sovereignity are irrelevant.
Mr Tony Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 09:43
WHATEVER THOSE ANSWERING YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE CORRECT EMMY. WE HAVE BECOME SLAVES OF THE EU AND MUST DO OUR UTMOST TO LEAVE BECAUSE IT IS UNDERMINING ALL SECTORS OF MALTESE WORKERS.
MALTESE WORKERS REMEMBER HOW THE EU HAS AND IS UNDERMINING YOU.
THE ONLY WAY OUT IS TO LEAVE THE CRAP EU.
Ms Rudi Mcbeal
Jul 4th 2011, 09:55
Very well said Ms Rita Smith!
@ Dr Bezzina - Yes, our identity is being lost and we've got only ourselves to blame, and do you know why? Because it is evident that we are not capable to do anything on our own without making a big mess of it all. Unfortunate and shameful, but true.
Alex Falzon
Jul 4th 2011, 08:13
Just sack the absent drivers without any hesitation!
Mr Ernest Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 08:12
L-istrajk mhux gustifikat ghax il-GWU lahqet ftehim ma l-Arriva, u dawn li ma dahlux ghax-xoghol ma dahlux min jeddhom mela ghandhom jitkeccew, u jsir mezz biex dawn il-haddiema ma jkunux fuq scale 1 ta l-ETC ghax b'mod kapricuzz ma dahlux. Jiena lbierah sibt servizz tajjeb kemm mix-xufier u kif ukoll bhala vjagg, mela l-problemi li hemm minhabba l-kapricci ta xi nies li ma jridux jahdmu.
Mr Joshua Attard
Jul 4th 2011, 08:07
I want to give a very big well done to all the drivers and workers who are working hard to make things work. Shame on the some that want to make trouble, If they dont like it they should leave... the issue is not about working conditions alone ! Of course these are teething troubles , they were expected up to some extent, of a service on this level.
Mr Joe Micallef
Jul 4th 2011, 08:06
Hope they are fired ceremoniously!!!!
guido cutajar
Jul 4th 2011, 08:02
Hadd ma ghandu jikkonfondi. Dawn affarijiet normali ghal Malta. Imbaghad ikun hemm xi bravu/a u jghejdlek li Maltese gemgem. Jekk Alla sallabna b`nies bziezel u kull ma imissu ibezzluh, mhux bil fors tgorr. Ilhom xhur jippreparaw fuq jippreparaw, nigu ghal fatti............Kaos... Ghal dawn l-ahhar 20 sena, kieku sar progett kapitali u ma kienx fih it tahwid. Insomma, Kellu ragun Gonzi P.N meta qal " Taht il P.N. kollox possibbli ", u veru ta......Nixtieq nistaqsi ...Mela drivers bl`ezatt ser ihaddmu ? Issa jekk ikun hemm xi hadd minnhom sick, tal festa, jew ikun irid imur ghal kacca, x`ser nghamlu ?
Darren Muscat
Jul 4th 2011, 08:52
id-differenza hi, li jekk jkun jrid jmur al festa, jew kacca, jrid jkollu il leave accettat, ma jistax jaqbad u ma jmurx ghax-xoghol ... jien mal privat hekk nahdem! u int?
tibdiex tiprova tamila politika il bicca, kollox tridu ddahhlu il politika xi dwejjaq ta nies, accettaw li is servizz huwa gdid, alissa iva ghadu bil problemi, pero rridu nghatu cans biex is servizz jitjieb, nemmen li l-arriva qed tamel kollox possibli biex ttina servizz tajjeb, ghax kieku ma kienitx ggib drivers min barra bala replacements temporanji.
jien nara it tazza nofsa mimlijja, int tara nofsa vojta, dik hi id differenza bejnietna!
guido cutajar
Jul 4th 2011, 09:33
@ Darren Muscat... Ghalhiex dawn l-affarijiet ghawn Malta biss jigru ?. Ghandhom jahsbu ghal kull eventwalita. Issa jekk hemm 300 driver, li ghandhom 24 gurnata leave kull wiehed li jigu 7200 gurnata f`kull sena. Plus is sick leave, maternity leave, special abroad leave, court leave u xi tuzzana leave iehor. Ghejdli ftit ,jekk ma ikollokx imqarr 20 driver extra kif ser tghati dan il leave kollu. Jien pensjonant, pero ghamilt 20 sena shop steward, u dawn huma " bread and butter " ghalijha. Il politika dejjem trid tidhol, ghax bhal ma missier huwa responsabbli ghal dak li jigri fil familja tieghu, il gvern jibqa responsabbli ghal dak kollu li jigri fil pajjiz. Pero huwa " healthy " li int tara it tazza nofsa mimlijha, u jien nara nofsa vojta, ghax nitallmu min xulxin.
Carmel Xuereb
Jul 4th 2011, 08:00
Kawlata ta' Austin Gatt ix-xufiera hadu l-parir tieghu u minfok tkeccew irrezinjaw. Ara dawk jafu xi tfisser il-kelma RIZENJA imma Austin Gatt u shabu ma jafux. Il-haddiem iz-zghir qed juri lil gvern li kapci jghid le jiena m'inhiex lest li nigi manipulat. Issa biex l-Arriva ssib izjed xufiera trid ittejjeb il-kundizzjonijiet ghax inkella ghar minn qabel se nispiccaw, u minflok Arriva se jkollna Arrivederci. Sur Gatt din state of the art ohra minn tieghek.
Maruska Agius
Jul 4th 2011, 07:59
Monday, July 4, 2011, 07:06
Arriva warns of more delays after 56 drivers don't show up
However the situation appeared to improve by 8.30 a.m. and an Arriva spokesman said the company was managing to put more buses on the routes.
And it is still 07:59am!!!
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jul 4th 2011, 07:59
I dont want to sound negative but,"Il vestitto no fa il Monaco" we just need to change this whole mentality
Tony
Mr wenzu montesin
Jul 4th 2011, 07:59
we've heard different versions of the same situation, from different conditions to those agreed, to €35/day, to longer shift hours, to split shifts, long sleeves and pircings, etc...
bottom line - there is no union directive for industrial action and still some drivers or individuals decide to take law in their hands and protest by not showing up to work. if i had not to show up at work cause i want to work less hours i would be fired and so should these!!!
this group of 56 individuals is causing an inconvience for:
1- many other maltese who cannot get to work cause of no buses or running late
2 - those who would normally take the bus but today opted to drive causing significant traffic
3 - a bad reputation on arriva who is trying to run its operations
4 - an even more stressful working situation for their colleagues covering up for them
5 - giving a message to tourists in malta how selfish the maltese are
thank you drivers!!!!
Mr Michael Camileri
Jul 4th 2011, 07:57
Those who are 'not genuine' are simply putting more pressure on their colleagues. If they intended on working for Arriva, ever?
Suspiciously feels like a sabotage attempt by disgruntled old service employees, People of Malta seem to be pro Arriva lads... so, quit the games and get on with it.
Ms C Bartolo
Jul 4th 2011, 07:53
If even their union is in agreement with the employers then are these drivers out of their minds? Do they have the "luxury" of being laid off?
Mr Hamish Dempster
Jul 4th 2011, 07:52
With Arriva now in Place , i should think that this should emiliorate the sevice , if not by the service, then by its appearance, comfort, courtsy, etc . Howver , i wish to point out to Mr aAustin Gatt that although we have gained the above we still have and will still have the same problem, STRIKES!!!! So realy there is still the same old problem , only under a different flag and will continue to haunt you whereever you hide. Good luck to Arriva and hope you dont end up like the out going predecessors.
Darren Muscat
Jul 4th 2011, 07:48
Now is the time do deal with these drivers who didn't turn up for work. The service might not be perfect & the conditions not yet optimal, but Arriva already said that things will get better with new timetables. If they are not willing to give a new service a chance, and they will be kept on... What will happen is that with every kink in the service, they will be no-shows, and that just can't happen!
Mr Neville A Cassar
Jul 4th 2011, 07:47
3 Strikes warning.... and you`re out !
Discuss with the union and arriva... but failure to turn up for work is no excuse !
Mr Peter Murray
Jul 4th 2011, 07:46
I would take a "dim view"of introducing a new roster immediately prior to a new service commencing operations.Surely the employees working conditions and hours of work must have been thrashed out before signing any contract of employment and I for one cant fathom out how this nonsense came about.
Joseph Magro
Jul 4th 2011, 07:45
One mess after the other.
Ray Gatt
Jul 4th 2011, 11:00
Pre planned by the old bus drivers. I had a feeling this would happen. They are not prepared to work a split shift, but they were very comfortable working from 06.00am straight till 11.00pm. At the end of the day, with all these actions it the general public that's suffering. Get in the foreigners.
Martin Buttigieg
Jul 4th 2011, 07:42
This morning at 06.28am I was on an Arriva Bus Stop at Hamrun and when the Arriva Bus came, the driver did not park close to the padestrain like they were instructed, the bus was warm most probably with the aircondition switched OFF, and the driver did not sell me a 7 day ticket instead he told me to buy from Valletta. the cost of this bus cost me Euro1.50 instead of 94c ( old service ). Now who is going to take action ?.
Stefan Portelli
Jul 4th 2011, 09:46
Make a complaint. You Have the right to do it. Tell them everything. If everyone does this. Situations can be solved.
John Scerri
Jul 4th 2011, 07:40
Drivers not turning up !!! ...no problem ....dismiss them immediately..... they are still under probation and take in the new recruits.
This new service will NOT become another weapon in the hands of a few in order to frustrate the public.
Those who will not abide to the company rules should be removed from the company payroll .
Much has been done for the success of this transition....and commuters are putting the blame on Arriva and the Govt.
This is not fare.
Mr john pizzuto
Jul 4th 2011, 07:33
That goes to show that Bulldozer Tactics are no longer in fashion.
Does'nt Minister Gatt ever learn?
Do you still think we are living in 17th century Gozo?
You once said you are going to pack up. THE SOONER THE BETTER
Mandy Spiteri
Jul 4th 2011, 07:30
Sack the lot of them! There are plenty of people willing to work!
Malcolm Mizzi
Jul 4th 2011, 07:27
well honestly I hope that these drivers are dismised now before tomorrow. get new drivers that are willing to work on and remove the rubish old drivers from our roads.
Mr Joseph Calleja
Jul 4th 2011, 07:23
You hire a boy to do a man's job and that is what happens. Fire the whole lot.
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