Updated - The new bus service – Have your say
The 106-year-old history of the Malta bus service starts a new chapter on Sunday when Arriva launches operations.
The introduction of new buses and a new network has inevitably brought with it all sort of emotions. Many cannot wait to see the end of the diesel-belching yellow buses but others will miss the character of old. Others look forward to reliability, and many have complained about the new routes.
What are your views and expectations? Are you satisfied with the new network and the fares? Do you have any suggestions or complaints?
Tell us about them by submitting your comment.
A spokesman for the Ministry of Transport - Emanuel Delia - will be clarifying or correcting some of the points raised by readers.
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Anthony Borg
Aug 14th 2011, 08:52
Friday 2nd July 2010 – Letter by Austin Gatt to “The Times” entitled: Subsidies on Public Transport
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"All neighbourhoods of the country, even if thinly populated or on the periphery of our built-up areas, would be served by (NOTE!) regular service."
NB. Austin Gatt is the Transport Minister responsible for Transport Malta.
Mario Desira
Aug 10th 2011, 10:26
Can Arriva kindly advise what seems to be the problem with Route 72 (Qrendi).
I have been complaining like other people but the incompetence shown in handling this route persist.
Today 10th August –more than one month after the service started, no 72 bus operated at 0630 hours and at 0700 hours as legally bound to do.
Before July there used to be departures at 0630 0645 0700 0715 0730 for the benefit of people goimg to work. Not only have these been removed (unfairly in my opinion) but even operating two simple journeys departing at 0630 and 0700 on time seems to be a problem!
Then TWO buses bearing number 72 appeared at 0720!
This keeps on happening regularly.
Whoever is responsible for this route is showing gross incompetence because this has nothing to do with lack of drivers or buses but the inability to organise buses that leave on time. Arriva and Transport Malta please check !
Ryan Agius
Aug 9th 2011, 10:21
Ghalhekk l qawl Malti jajdlek kemm kona sewwa meta konna ghar
ramona zerafa
Aug 9th 2011, 09:16
I agree with A. Caruana. Arriva so far ignored the more urgent need for Route no 91 to pass from Triq il Qaliet in Marsascala to Valletta. Please bring back the old route asap.
Mr Paul Borg
Aug 9th 2011, 08:12
August is half way through and the bus service is still slow , erratic and incompitent. Passengers are still having ti wait too long at the Valletta terminus. This has caused business to drop to a record low. Maybe after the T shirt "ARRIVA ASPETTA BETTER ON FOOT, now comes the website " I hate Arriva .com"
Mr FRANS H SAID
Aug 9th 2011, 07:02
Unless they re-install the old routes, people will not be satisfied. If this happened in another country, even in a dictatoriat, heads would have rolled, but it seems in Malta the Tail commands the Donkey!
Nigel Spiteri
Aug 8th 2011, 20:50
I think that Mr. Delia is still having lectures from his idol Dr. Gatt on how to be arrogant and insensitive towards the Maltese people.
A Caruana
Aug 8th 2011, 12:47
Unbelievable but true: Yesterday an advert detailing change to route 124 now startibng from Birgu to Marsascala, no doubt following the hunger strike and the PM's visit, so i phoned up Arriva this morning asking them if route 124 will pass from triq il Qaliet like the old Bus 22, and the customer care lady told me they don't anything about this route!! Mela first they advertise and their own employess know nothing about what they are doing? Arriva has also so far ignored the more urgent need for Route no 91 to pass from Triq il Qaliet in Marsascala to Valletta, Get your priorities right Arriva, the Cospicua buis is heavily used on Tuesdays for the market, the valletta bus is needed DAILY from Siberia!
Ms Francesca Abela
Aug 8th 2011, 14:48
Ezatt - A. Caruana, Arriva's non arrival service is making Marsaskala commuters sick with delays, sick with walking 1 kilometer in the sun and sick of all the hype. I heard there were several petitions going around in Marsascala, what exactly is the Marsaskala Local Council doing about all these problems = one big fat zero. Again they show they all know nothing about this village, The Cospicua Bus is used most on Tuesday for the Birgu Market, the rest of the week it's nearly empty, what people need are not the priorities of Arriva and of Transport Malta, they changed a complete route and have ignored the most pressing one - the direct Bus no 91 to Valletta, is this a case of the blind leading the blind? When is Arriva going to do a survey for the passengers to learn what they want not what Transport Malta decided they want and when is the route 91 going to finally start operating as it should be and as it is on the website? ie from Triq il- Qaliet? And when are Arriva going to put timetables on all the bus stops in Marsaskala, and also arrange the mistakes on the Stops?
Ms ANNA GRECH
Aug 8th 2011, 11:55
How about having a survey sent to all households like they did with the time-table and inform us with the feedback received
Mr Paul Caruana
Aug 8th 2011, 08:09
The biggest bugbear of the old system was its unreliability. Now that one month has passed since Arriva has started providing the service, do we have any percentage figures as to what extent Arriva Malta is keeping to its own published timetables?
As I recall, Transport Malta, before the start of the new service, made a big fuss on how it was allocating a dozen or so of its people to ensure that the contract terms will be honoured.
So let us have some statistics....one month after the start of the new service, what is its % reliability?
Catherine Caruana
Aug 8th 2011, 06:29
I can say that there has been improvement since the introduction of Arriva buses in Malta.The fact that with just a 50 eurocent ticket -karta anzjan-you can catch as many buses as you want for a day is already a point in their favour. Even the air conditioing system that dries you -after having a sweat bath up -till your arrival at your destination is another good thing.However we Kalkara residents who live in St. Liberata street are still complaining about the eradication of the old route that used to pass from this road and has now been removed.Please Arriva Authorities give our plea priority when it comes to changing some routes come September. Thanks.
Chris Vella
Aug 8th 2011, 06:13
Arriva are causing a lot of problems at paceville by not letting me in first place a minibus driver alight and boarding my clients. And this is so because MT never made an appropriate parking place for the minibuses. The only place available is for weekends as if we live only on weekends. One of the Arriva officers (I’ve been told he’s ex police officer) called the police or MT to clear all minibuses from the area and fines have been issued. So now we have the situation where we can’t operate at paceville during the week.
Do you know what I’ve been told by the policemen when I asked them where can I park my minibus while I’m waiting for my clients to return?
In a very arrogant way He said that he doesn’t care and that every time I will get there I will get another thicket (fine) and to ask the question to my authority guess he was referring to MT because they asked him to get there and do so. To tell the truth they were quite pissed off.
So as you can see it’s not a matter of being lazy or trying to help. Should Arriva improve their service well good for the public in general?
The problem is that it’s two ways two measures, now even involving the police what sort of competition and free market is this?
The government removed a monopoly and created an even worse one full of mismanagement by Arriva because they knew what type of contract they signed and what was being asked from them. The blaming of the old ATP drivers doesn’t stand anymore. They got the drivers from other countries so this is a pathetic excuse.
And also don’t keep saying some of you that who use the bus has seen an improvement because of the air-condition on the bus should the old operators had the fares at €1.30 instead of €0.47 I’m sure they would have had no problems changing the buses and turning the AC on.
John Formosa
Aug 7th 2011, 22:28
Fortunately, I got my driver's license a month before Arriva started so I can't talk from first-hand experience but from what I'm reading and hearing, I would prefer spending 30-40mins (including waiting at the bus stop) in an old "dirty" bus to get to my destination instead of spending 1hr or more taking a tour of Malta in a comfortable airconditioned "supposedly clean" Arriva bus.
So whoever is saying the service has improved from the old one ... i'm sorry but in my opinion, the disadvantages (long waiting times, unreasonable routes etc ) are much greater than the advantages (polite drivers, a/c [if working] etc) regarding the new service.
James Camilleri
Aug 8th 2011, 19:57
Very well said. We want a service which takes us from point A to B in the least possible time and at the scheduled time. With all its failings the old service did this. What is the point of having polite drivers (give them another year or two and we will see how polite they will remain) whom you see after a hour of waiting and ACs which if functioning are definitely needed to dry all the sweat from all the waiting? I agree that there were faults with the old system but at least it delivered (and this is said through experience not because our memory is short as someone intimated). As to the comment below (@ Joseph Attard) re Arriva being a credible organization in large places, please see comments by foreigners (especially from the U.K.). One even said "Now you know what we have to put up with in the U.K."
Joseph Attard
Aug 7th 2011, 21:42
Arriva will get better and come December no one will point more fingers. Were Maltese, we all moan over anything. But with due respect to Arriva much more was expected. Pull up your pants real fast. Your a very credible organization when it comes to large places but it seems that in a small island youve gone topsy turvy.
Arriva will perform and within a few months the past will be forgotten. Change is never easy, even if its for the better or in this case the worse, but come on we could never hang on to the old bus system. And lest we forget, ATP brought this by their own good hands. So many times in the past Government/s gave them a helping hand but you never delivered. You were never proactive. lets move on history is history and thats where it should remain. Arriva...go for it....
Ms Francesca Abela
Aug 8th 2011, 23:27
So Joseph Attard do you really expect Marsaskala residents to wait until the end of the year tio have a Bus from Valletta they can catch without walking 20 minutes first? No doubt you are one of the lucky commuters who have a multiple choice to Buses in your area, here down south we are the forgotten ones.
Carmel Cilia
Aug 9th 2011, 06:12
Arriva will deliver: when? Last Saturday afternoon the 41 bus left Valletta terminus at 5.30 p.m full. People were left to wait for the 6.00p.m. bus(under the old system Mr. Attard buses left Valletta for mellieha every15 minutes) the 600 p.m bus did not arrive; the 6.30p.m. bus did not arrive when finally at 6.45 a bus did arrive there was a run for it: the result many women and fragile persons were squashed and ended up after waiting for more than an hour for a bus standing all the way to mellieha.
The old system was not delivering enough but surely many people would today prefer to revert to the old system where at least the time schedule was often than not upheld. When the transport man was questioned he said that his only duty was to see the bus reversing out of the terminal; A terminal which took six months to finish without a public toilet, without a telephone kiosk. without shelter for waiting passengers, without any outlet for an elderly person to buy a bottle of water. Yes the government delivered a pig style( under E.U laws the terminal would not also pass a pig style test.
chris tuckley
Aug 7th 2011, 16:07
Obviously the old service was 100 times better than Arriva will ever be, Why the old busses and Arriva cannot run side by side. The routes which Arriva cannot cover run with the old busses. This will serve 2 purposes, give Malta a decent bus service and show Arriva that you cannot run busses on Malta like you can in London without knowledge of the island, routes and the people.
Josephine Calleja
Aug 7th 2011, 14:39
I am a resident of G'Mangia. With the old bus service it was very easy for us to go to Valletta while now we have to go either to Hamrun or to Msida which are quite a long way to go. Hope that they will do something about this route.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Aug 7th 2011, 17:15
Sure shift G'Mangia to Hamrun or Msida easier.
Mario Pace
Aug 7th 2011, 10:39
Can Mr Delia answer why the CEO of Arriva said that there were no routes when in actual fact there were over a hundred routes all working perfectly well. We got to our destination on time and had no problems, swiftly as well.
We were better off with the old buses
John Visanich
Aug 7th 2011, 10:18
I rarely use the buses so am not in a position to comment on the service in general. Suffice to say that on the few occasions that I used the no.71 bus from Zurrieq to Valletta or vice-versa I found the service competely satisfactory, possible faster than before by a few minutes. My only complaint is that once I waited approx. 32 minutes at Zurrieq for the bus to arrive. Clearly there was something wrong there.
One positive point I would like to make concerns the no. 201 bus that does a circular route from Bahrija to the Airport. I have only two words regarding this route: try it! This is probably the route that offers the most spectacular views of Malta and is definitely worth taking every now and then just for the ride.
Alessandro Bruno
Aug 6th 2011, 19:18
I quote the MITC:
"Ferries and Water taxis as part of the transport system.
The possibility of ferries and water taxies forming part of the radical reforms being undertaken in public transport was also discussed during the National Conference on Public Transport.
In the next few months more water borne services will be introduced, as well as water taxis, as existing in other countries. The ferry services will commence in the next few months in Grand Harbour and Marsamxett. However it is intended that more ferries will operate in other areas in Malta."
those few months are many months overdue.. so what about a regular ferry service? it could help all cities facing the grand harbour, especially now that bus service in all southern Malta became less frequent and reliable
Joseph Bonnici
Aug 6th 2011, 17:03
As a citizen from Zabbar I have many complaints to make but the most important ones are about ex rout 20 which was to cover Marsascala Bypass to Valletta. Now we do not have this service any more and one have to make a connection trip to go to valletta. In such a small place like Malta connection trips are not efficient because of time lost. Zabbar residents who live in the vicinities of Xghajra Road and Baron Confectionery used to use of the bus stop in Convent street when using rout 91 now this bus stop has been abolished and we have either to go to triq Wied il Ghajn Bus stop or else stop near the Local Counsil. Residents living in The Housing Estate and in Fgura have a small chance to get on a 91 Rout bus because they will be full up from Marsascala. Why not introduce a rout from Zabbar like our ex rout 18. Is rout 91 going to cover triq il Qaliet? It is most important to cover triq il Qaliet and get trough triq il Gardiel. What happened to our Rout 17 which used to cover Zonqor Housing Estate and goes trough triq is Salini and goes back trough triq il Qaliet.
A Caruana
Aug 6th 2011, 19:13
Prosit Sur Bonnici, exactly same words we have been Hammering to Arriva since 3rd July, to date, despite all the words, neither Marsascala, nor Zabbar nor Fgura have actually a decent Bus service, and when we complain they say we are moaners! We invite those people to try out the service that is available in the South of Malta to see who is right.
A Saliba
Aug 7th 2011, 18:42
Very well said Mr Bonnici. I had wrote about the bus stop in Convent Street (Lawrenz) a dozen times but nothing has changed. This is not a complaint of just one person but other commuters who make use of this bus stop to get off. As for the old routes, they were much better and reliable . Don't know who's idea was it to remove the old routes.
We are paying more for the new transport system whereas the old one was much cheaper and better run.
Transport Malta take action - Why is it that you do not have a customer care e-mail and instead we are re directed to the Arriva site to make our complaints?
Also Arriva drivers, please take care not to freeze us commuters with the AC. thank you
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Aug 6th 2011, 15:22
Mr. Delia, hello, are you there?
JOE ZAHRA
Aug 6th 2011, 12:00
When will Emanuel Delia start clarifing points posted. I posted on this page the lack seating in the new bus stops . The Roman Villa stages got no seating, people with disability are not being looked after. This point has been mentioned to the highest office in politics, but still nothing from transport Malta
Ruby Jenner
Aug 6th 2011, 15:16
Yes Joe, where is Mr. Delia? There is a lot of clarifying and correcting to do. His silence says it all.
Joseph Bonnici
Aug 6th 2011, 17:05
Probably Emanuel Delia is still tied up in chains to Castile Place.
A Caruana
Aug 6th 2011, 19:16
Rumour has it that Mr Delia has left the Island ingognito, he is actually been sent to drive an Arriva bus in UK in exchange for one of the UK drivers. Reality and jokes aside - MR Delia should have been fired from his post together with Minister Gatt for the total disaster in the Public Transport, it is now going into the 6th week -- still 'teething' troubles ay??
Maurice Cini
Aug 6th 2011, 11:38
Can Mr Emanuel Delia please answer my mail dated July25th 2011/4th August 2011 and also WHY the Kalkara/Xghajra bus on Sundays and Public holidays is running every HOUR. We use to have this service every half hour by the old system. Instead of having frequent bus services as advertised,we are having to wait longer and longer.This problem is creating heavy traffic due to(1) the long distances that one has to travel by bus before reaching his destination and (2) the less frequent service and waiting time. Can someone please inform and advice for any improvements, at least by having the same frequencies asthey were beforeif not better.Thanking you for your consideration. Maurice Cini
Mr Paul Caruana
Aug 6th 2011, 10:52
I am sure that Emanuel Delia, if he ever bothers to contribute to this column, would need to answer very many aspects that have been brought up!
One thing that needs to be clarified urgently, from reading some of the comments below is when the published timetables will become relevant. It is simply ridiculous to expect people to move out of their private cars into Arriva buses, when regular commuter, at least on some routes (e.g. route 72 below) are still complaining that the published timetables do not reflect the actual bus schedule.
For the umpteenth time, keep to the published schedules! If this is not possible, THEN CHANGE THEM, but if you are actually interested in gaining the public trust, do not promise one thing and then do something completely different.
cettina portelli
Aug 6th 2011, 17:57
oh, how i agree with you! the first bus for the 3cities, the no.2 is scheduled to arrive here at 0550am. it has NEVER arrived before 0615am. the first bus, the no.3 from xghajra is SUPPOSED to arrive in bormla at 0610am. it arrives any time after 0625am. HOW TO GET TO WORK ON TIME WEN THERE IS NO EARLY BUS??? there is a scheduled bus supposed to depart l'isla at 0530am. IT HAS NEVER EVER SHOWED UP. THE THREE CITIES NEED AN EARLY BUS DESPERATELY. the people of bormla, kalkara and birgu have NOTHING earlier than 0610am. AND THAT IS ONLY ON A GOOD DAY WHEN THE BUS TURNS UP. yes, we are using our cars and shall continue to do so until such time ARRIVA get their act together - IF THEY EVER DO.
Vincent Zerafa
Aug 5th 2011, 20:00
The first bus from Zurrieq to Valletta, should be at 5:30am. Otherwise, I will still arrive at 7hrs. With the old buses, I repeat again, I used to get the first bus at 5:30am and punch at work at half six exactly. If you continue like this, than you should never have come. Amen.
John Mifsud
Aug 5th 2011, 22:27
The same i can say from my side! Used to get teh no 18 bus from Fgura at 5,35am and reach work by 6,20, Now, thanks to Transport Malta' stupid bus schedules, i arrive work at 7am! Is that what Arriva took over our transport??? For a million times, i once again suggest that another No91 bus departs either from Zabbar or Fgura to pick up all stranded passengers, who are all WORKERS not tourists! I guess that September 11 will come, and we''ll still be in this situation!! John Mifsud
Robert Grixti
Aug 5th 2011, 18:21
My two-cents thought on how to improve the service...
As a bus user I principally commute on the 31 route. This like other lines pass via Mater Dei. No objection about that. But I noticed (I stand to be corrected of course) that other than the bus interchange in front of the hospital, very little people make use of the other hospital stops. Standing in the blistering heat waiting on one of them doesn't make any sense... Additionally, the entry and exit route to/from the hospital could be shortened.
I suggest that as an interim solution, buses head towards the main entry, and exit from there as well, without circumnavigating the hospital. Arriva could then set up a circular bus (perhaps by utilising an electric vehicle) to act as a regular shuttle around the hospital. Arriva might also think in introducing small electric cabs (like the ones in the airports) to assist the elderly inside Mater Dei's premises.
Such a solution could reduce commuting by some 10 minutes. My thought anyway.
Mario Desira
Aug 5th 2011, 16:33
TO ARRIVA -
I would like to know please what remedy/action is being taken against whoever is in charge of route 72 from Valletta terminus to Qrendi. What happened today has been taking place frequently during the past month.
I was on the stage at Floriana under the arches around 1350. I spent over an hour waiting for bus number 72 when there should have been one at 1400 hours and another at 1430 hours. These never came.
To add insult to injury over FIVE buses 71 left the same terminus in this period. Two of them left around 1410 hours WITHIN FOUR MINUTES OF EACH OTHER. THEREFORE THERE COULD NOT BE ANY MORE EXCUSE THERE WAS NO DRIVER OR BUS AVAILABLE TO OPEARTE NUMBER 72. It seems every so often someone arbitrarily decides not to operate a 72 bus or to operate it every hour.
The way this route is being handled seems either incompetence or sabotage as it is completely illogical. People are being left waiting on stages for over one hour in the blazing sun. This needs to stop as soon a possible because the public is really fed up.
I sincerely hope whoever is supervising these things checks out what is going on.
Victor Vella
Aug 5th 2011, 14:44
I noticed that there are fewer people on the bus stops ,and while driving to work ( I use my car during working hours) I have also noticed more busses on the road.What I need to comment on is the fact that some busses are filthy on the outside, this if I am not mistaken is against the law.Drivers using mobile phones are still to be see, and also drivers with thier hands out of the window.Some bad habits are hard to kill, but kill them they must.
A Cordina
Aug 5th 2011, 13:24
Who's the genius who came up with the Cirkewwa - Valletta route timetable?? Perhaps it's because I am not an expert, however I cannot understand what is the idea behind a schedule requiring buses to leave Cirkewwa 5 minutes before the arrival of the ferry!
Mario Desira
Aug 5th 2011, 12:44
ROUTE 72 MQABBA-QRENDI -
The route 72 covering Qrendi/Mqabba is still not up to standard and the public using this route is still being discriminated against because many times the bus is every hour instead of half an hour as supposed to be. Yesterday I went to catch the 72 bus which supposedly leaves 1654 hours. This never came. One lady said she came for the 1630 bus which never showed up either. The next bus we boarded departed 1722 hours! One hour waiting!
I enquired with the driver who showed me his roster confirming departure at 1722. Arriva seems to be instructing drivers to do some trips every hour. This also applies to early afternoon departures from Valletta. So why are passengers kept waiting a whole hour for a bus after one month of operations?
On a positive note, the 0700 bus Qrendi to Valletta is having a Transport Malta monitor and sometimes a dispatcher overseeing departures, and the removal of the airport circuit by buses 71 and 72 seems to have helped immensely for the buses to depart on time.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Aug 5th 2011, 12:19
I have to say that there were marked improvements in my area this week (Zebbug/Qormi/Siggiewi). I have waited much less than usual on the whole (in most cases no longer than 20 minutes), both on my way to work and back. Buses were more frequent and there were fewer people on bus stops. So well done to Arriva... very slow improvement but at least steady. This morning, for the very first time ever, the bus actually came on time as per the timetable on the bus stop!!
One problem there was yesterday, for example, was that while buses were frequently passing by, they were using the small (9 foot) buses for a busy main line, such that by the time they get to Qormi from Zebbug, the bus would be full and they leave people stranded on the bus stop. Given that there is a lack of drivers, I'm to assume that there are lots of spare buses right now, so this should definitely not be a prob!
So the service is still FAR from perfect of course, but it seems that we might get there eventually.
Jairo Mifsud
Aug 6th 2011, 20:12
Quite Right...... All wrong in evert other persons mind..... since 3rd July ive seen a big step, if we wait we'll get there eventually as u said... IMMA AHNA IL-MALTIN JEKK XI HAGA MA TKUNX TAJBA MILL-EWWEL NINFAMAWA......
Arriva taqtawx qalbkom ghax si darba taslu ghalfejn ridtu taslu !
Carmel Cilia
Aug 5th 2011, 09:25
Give us back our old bus terminus in Valletta. One has to spend hours waiting for a bus in the new 15 port bus terminus and then what? When finally the bus arrives it is a struggle to get on it. People trumpling each other and complete chaos. What is going to be the situation like in two m.onths time when the first heavy rains come around I do not want to ponder about let alone experience. Veru kas li il-gvern maqtugh mill-poplu u min dak li qieghed isofri. Fejn huma Gatt u Delia; hux qeghdin bil-holidays ukoll.
Chris Vella
Aug 5th 2011, 09:19
Now there seems to be a new problem the police force are being used to stopping minibuses from operating at Peceville. They are issuing fines to them because there’s no parking space for them during the week and on weekends you find cars parked there and we clearly heard the police telling one of the drivers when he asked where can he park his minibus while he wait for the group to get them back home. In his replay the policemen told him that it was not his problem and that the authority asked the police to remove all minibuses and that they will receive a river of contraventions (fines) should they keep going there.
This is unfair because it leaves no option but to take a bus.
This makes me believe that Arriva asked MT to stop the minibuses from operating at PV and MT involved the police in it.
Someone take action to stop this.
Peter Pace O'Shea
Aug 4th 2011, 22:16
There is only one way of making the government revert to the previous routes and reject Arriva and its second hand buses. Following in the steps of Mahama Ghandi a silent protest should be held involving the PL, AD,other small parties, All the Unions and other organisations. People need to stop the arrogance of the present leadership as in the process of bowing its head to the EU it is hurting its own country and people in the process. Many people who depend on the public transport system are suffering whilst our ministers are driven by their personal driver, in some of the most expensive cars. They were elected to be of service to the people not the other way round. How about they start using Arriva buses to lead by example. The PN will not win the coming election.
Mr francis darmanin
Aug 5th 2011, 16:24
you must be joking... do you really believe the UHM will participate in anything of the sort
James Camilleri
Aug 6th 2011, 00:28
I believe such a protest march is going to be held. To make sure check with facebook's "Moviment Tindahalx".
cettina portelli
Aug 6th 2011, 18:04
I think people are doing their own silent protest - OUT OF NECESSITY - i, and all of my family are using our cars again and for those family members who dont have cars, we arrange lifts for them. what choice do we have? we have to get to work, hospital appointments and such things on time.
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 4th 2011, 20:51
@ James Dewar
James yes I have a positive comment.
Today outside my usual haunt at a cafe in St Pauls we saw many drivers under either instruction or testing.
When given the thumbs up we recieved a frirendly wave and smile from both driver and supervisors!
Carmel Cilia
Aug 5th 2011, 09:36
Whilst you were haveing your thumbs up at a cafe in St. Pauls Bay many maltese and tourist were having a sauna bath or risking a sun stroke on several stages along the route. We want the service we were promised or else revert back to the old system. We prefer what we had( when we arrived in time for work at fixed hours) instead of a gamble every time we go to get a bus. F'hiex gibuna, veru issa pajjiz tar-raba dinja.
James Dewar
Aug 5th 2011, 10:48
Dave, That is positive! Hope you didn't think my earlier comment addressed to Mr "Jars" was directed at you!! Hopefully we may well be able to get from A to B when we return to Qawra in September although the length of time it may take remains to be seen!!
Paul Bates
Aug 5th 2011, 10:55
I am a qualified transport manager, there is without doubt room for a full commercial operation of public transport on Malta, built route by route or area by area, without the need for mass public funds injection.
A judicial protest against the two tier fare structure would be interesting as this could prove illegal under EU laws.
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 5th 2011, 14:18
James not all mate !
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 5th 2011, 16:37
Sorry James meant to read ,Not AT all mate !
Paul Bates
Aug 4th 2011, 20:06
Under EU competition rules what is to stop someone else or another company running in competition with Arriva?
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 4th 2011, 22:18
Oh Paul I wonder why, the other initial bidders would not touch it .
My informed sources tell me that National Express even walked away.
Peter Camilleri
Aug 4th 2011, 19:31
Instead of "correcting some of the points raised by readers", Mr Delia would be better advised to correct the glaring mistakes his Organisation has made in designing the new bus routes, and in naming (perhaps misnaming would be more appropriate) the various bus stops all over the island. Or will he try to justify the unjustifiable?
Maurice Cini
Aug 4th 2011, 19:17
Can Transport Malta please give me an answer to my mail dated July 25th 2011.My Mail was as follows:
Maurice Cini
Jul 25th, 19:02
Can Transport Malta please advice why Bus no3 passing from Kalkara has been removed from passing through St. Liberata Street Kalkara? This part of Kalkara was used by Many people old aged and alike. The area around close to this street is always developing with new buildings and was giving many a very good service. It also served many to visit the Capuchin Church.Can this old route be re-instated to give service to all. Thanks.
John Vella
Aug 4th 2011, 18:44
An English friend of mine wanted to go to Cirkewwa from Bkara for the ferry to Gozo about two or three weeks ago for the feast of St. George. It took him two hours to get there because the driver got lost in Bugibba where he ran in circles for almost an hour. Jokingly he said that it is easier to fly to London or Rome than to get anywhere by Arriva. Furthermore, when he wanted to return on that very Sunday I phoned Arriva to check if there were any buses after 11pm that run through Bkara. The attendant answered in the negative. Sounding very helpful shetold me that he has to take the X1 that goes to ST. Julians and then there is a night bus that goes to Bkara. Wonder of wonders he got there and to his chagrin, he was told that no night buses were running because there were no drivers. Thumbs up to efficiency and organisation. She, an Arriva employee, could have been more informed about the situation and routes of her own company and not mislead customers. He could not even find a taxi at that time of the night and he had to walk it all the way. It took him 2.15am to get home. Arriva is another hurried windowdressing job by the Minister responsible. It is evident that there was no planning involved and organisation is a word that perhaps is not in Arriva's vocabulary. And the very Einstein inspired idea of introducing this new service with new routes is something that shows how whoever is planning lacks one simple characteristic that any toddler would have: common sense. What i think of Arriva: make a big cultural leap because whatever you do in England will not happen here overnight. NO thought was spared for organistaion, co-ordination and definitely no responsibility. And since when whatever is dangerous in England is safe here? I am referring to the bender buses. It this some colonial regression that looks down on us Maltese as children of a lesser God? Arriva get your act together fast because as they say first impressions last and run deep.
Maria Borg
Aug 4th 2011, 18:20
Re route 83 from Santa Lucia to Valletta and back. I have information that a bus No 83 from Sta. Lucia to Valletta will be functioning according to new routes. When shall this new route be functioning? The people of Sta. Lucia including both old and young are suffering hardships going on foot to Paola to catch a bus since we have no direct bus to Valletta . This new system is worse than the old one. When previously it took 20 minutes to go to Valletta, now at least it takes over an hour. Hope that this situation will be back to normal before mid September when the students will be going to going to University, Junior College and so on.
John Bencini
Aug 4th 2011, 16:58
We people living in Psaila Street, St. Venera and the vicinities are still patiently waiting for a direct bus service to Valletta as we used to enjoy before when we had the karakki xarabanks! Why do be now have to take two buses via Mater Dei to cover a distance of a kilometre and a half ?. What used to take us a fifteen minute drive is now taking us a minimum of one hour and a half. This is a shame!!. Give us back the old route.
Joe Azzopardi
Aug 4th 2011, 15:56
A month on the service is still disgraceful. I use route no 1 between Senglea and Valletta and there was never been a bus leaving on time in the morning or afternoon, with waiting time being as long as 2 hours. What used to be a 20 minute trip has become an ordeal. The girls at the Arriva kiosk in Valletta are hopeless, with most of them lacking even the basic capabilities in customer care.
I work with another 400 people in Floriana and organised a group of 15 people to rent a daily van to get to and form work. We are also actively encouraging other colleagues to do the same since your service in Malta is absolutely hopeless. I am also encouraging people from Senglea to do the same as I feel you do not deserve our business. If I can avoid it I will never board an Arriva vehicle again.
Paul Bates
Aug 4th 2011, 15:43
Correct me if I am wrong, routes 11 12 & 13 are by far the busiest on the island?
Why not contract them out as a whole unit, A combined 2 minute headway Valletta-Ferries-St Julians (services 11,12,13) then from St Julians a 6 minute headway to Bugibba (service 11 & 12) then every 12 minutes to Cirkewwa, Introduce new service 14 every 15 minutes Valletta-Mater Dei- Mosta- Melliema-Crikewwa. That gives 9 buses an hour Valletta to Gozo ferry, 30 an hour to St Julians and 10 buses an hour to Bugibba.
Change the vehicles to 90 capacity double deckers and simplify the fares. 1euro flat fare Valletta- St Julians, 2euro to Bugibba and 2.5 euro single to Crikewwa, only concessions being a seven day ticket.
Do the maths, using double deckers Valletta to St Julians = 2700 passengers an hour, both ways.
James Connor
Aug 4th 2011, 15:00
thank you to all for advice on arriva,iwill be in malta for one week from the 11th of august and i will try out the new buses .when i get home to scotland i will post my comments about arriva.buses to one side i will still enjoy malta and the fab maltese people .saha
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 4th 2011, 23:30
Dinny no go forget your Scottish neebs that are stuck here, LOL
Safe trip
Dave & Jos Smith
Ludgard Scicluna
Aug 4th 2011, 12:39
Sir.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Arriva supposed to start arranging the bus routes from 31st July. What about
no 121 bus, from Paola to Xghajra vici-versa. Yesterday I was at Ritche wainting for the above mentioned
bus, but it was all in vain.
Paul Bates
Aug 4th 2011, 12:03
Must have intercepted my questions I posted on Sunday, as they were never published
Franco Abela
Aug 4th 2011, 09:46
"A spokesman for the Ministry of Transport - Emanuel Delia - will be clarifying or correcting some of the points raised by readers."
Is this a joke? Where is he?
John Mifsud
Aug 5th 2011, 22:37
I guess Emanuel Delia has NEVER read any of our comments, complaints and suggestions!! Just ask the residents of Fgura who have to expect a miracle to board a bus No 91 coming from Marsascala, as by the time it reaches Zabbar, it is already full up! Thanks Transport Malta for the excellent bus service!!! Pajjiz tal Mickey Mouse!!.... John Mifsud
Joe Scerri
Aug 4th 2011, 08:40
Judging from the comments and letters so far it seems that Arriva still have a very long way to go, the biggest problems being the waiting times at bus stops and journey durations, both are still at an unacceptable level of service.
John Caligari
Aug 4th 2011, 08:30
and what about buss stops. Go to Kakara going towards Smart City. A Bus Stop named 'Ic-Cumnija' meters and meters away from nowhere. And then they took away Kapuccin Road route.
Ludgard Scicluna
Aug 4th 2011, 12:52
Dear Mr.Caligari,
You are absolutely right. I use to take no 4 bus from Cappucini road ervery half an hour.
I live by the Xghajra Hse Estate. Whenever I use to go to Zabbar, I use to ride the 21 bus,. but now 21 bus
route has finished. Therefore, now, on going to Zabbar, I have to take two buses, No3 to Paola and then No 91 to Zabbar. What a disgrace. Who is responsible? bla....bla....bla.... You have to wait next
SEPTEMBER.
A Caruana
Aug 6th 2011, 16:17
Maybe we should all go on a hunger strike to get our old routes back?? Then maybe we will all be visited by our Prime Minister who interestingly lives in my same locality - Marsascala but is oblivious to the situation where to get a bus to Valletta we residents have to walk 20 minutes to get the Bus 91, where before we had 3 buses an hour to Valletta passing from Triq il Qaliet and one an hour to Cospicua!!
Joseph Magro
Aug 3rd 2011, 20:07
Took me 1 whole hour of waiting for No 72 from Valletta to Qrendi today. This happened between 18:20 to 19:20pm whilst in between of that same hour 3 (Route 71) buses arrived at approximately 19:00Pm IN A ROW!! This is totally unacceptable as each bus is supposed to take at least 30 minutes to arrive (At least on Stage 15). Yet again, Qrendi is becoming a forgotten town when it comes to Bus transport. My say? Each and everday I'm depending less on this new bus service. One step forward, two steps back; and that's a growing fact.
James Dewar
Aug 3rd 2011, 19:45
@ Gary Jamieson
Gary, Get the impression that you are not yet totally satisfied with what's on offer from the Arriva 21st Century Public Transport Revolution!
Gary Jameson
Aug 3rd 2011, 21:31
To James:
Actually, I'm very impressed that they've managed to rack up such a list of 'teething' problems in their first month!
Ms Monica Muscat
Aug 3rd 2011, 18:12
I think that there is really only one thing to be said. Things seem to be improving, although the final result will be long in coming (September, they said). I myself have tried the service, and, perhaps luckily so, found it more than good! Many serious problems still have to be tackled, such as routes which constrain a passenger to take three buses to get to work! Malta is too small to be subjected to rules and regulations which apply elsewhere, where distances cannot be tackled by a multi-link system.
I wonder who will bother to read this comment. - WOW 1104, now 1105, comments. By the time anyone gets thru half of them September will have come and gone - and difficulties ironed out.
James Dewar
Aug 3rd 2011, 19:34
Monica, Thats encouraging to hear! One may say that it has to be improving as it could hardly have got any worse!! (The only way is up!!) Don't share your optimism re everything being ironed out by September though, (unless they drastically change the routes) but here's hoping!!
John Zammit
Aug 3rd 2011, 17:58
Re: routes 71 and 72
I have already written about these routes that come from Zurrieq and Qrendi to valletta.
You guys at Arriva had fixed one part of the problem, i.e. the bypassing of the airport. However, no solution to no passing along Valletta Road,Luqa. This was not touched at all.
This area is an industrial zone and for one to go home from near 'Baxter' to the north of the island one has to switch 3 buses or walk about 2 km to Aldo Moro bus stop which is hot in summer and practically impossible when it rains due to the deluge that passes there.
How is it not possible to re route one of these routes and instead of both passing from in front St. Vincent de paul make the Qrendi one pass from Zurrieq picking up commuters there bound for St. Vincent de paul and give us the other to pass from Valletta road
I sure hope you would reconsider it and adjust.
Doris Farrugia
Aug 4th 2011, 11:18
And reconsider going through the airport again cause we commuters from Gaxaq/Gudja were making use of route 71 and 72 since our bus route has been removed by some kind of idiot at TM at least until the promised X5 starts operating.
Mr Fenech MD
Aug 3rd 2011, 17:34
After a month using Arriva buses, I would like to say that the only better thing is the Air Conditioning; with regards punctuality, cleanliness and service, in some ways we were better off with the old Tal-linja buses.
Hugh Jackson
Aug 6th 2011, 01:22
What was good about the old buses? We had to wait for half an hour or more to go to Marsascala
JOE ZAHRA
Aug 3rd 2011, 14:16
AUG 2 , bus stop by Roman Villa a person with disablity had to stand for over 35 min in a new bus stop , as other bus stops this one had no seating facility. On the same bus stop a very clever person put a ticket machine under a tree oozing resin on top of it , Public money well spent . transport Malta should know that people with disability deserve better sssssssssSHAME ON YOU AG
Mrs Janet Bayes
Aug 3rd 2011, 23:06
So disabled person stood and waited for the bus for half an hour or so? Well, I am disabled, stood for more than an hour in Bugibba, and then had to stand all the way to Cirkewwa, because of the ignorance of the public. How long would a disabled person have waited for an accessible bus before Arriva. With my disability I was not able to even access a bus - -
Elizabeth Hair
Aug 3rd 2011, 14:05
WARNING TO ALL ARRIVA PASSENGERS - especially if the bus is packed, incidents of pickpocketing have been reported - with the thieves making the most of the buses being packed.
TAKE CARE
Ruby Jenner
Aug 4th 2011, 15:32
Good advice Elizabeth. Thanks.
Carmel Cilia
Aug 3rd 2011, 11:02
Yet again what is Arriva doing. Yesterday the no.41 bus was at Bellie view terminus at 5.15am and left at 5.30am.
So this morning a lot of people were present at the terminus by 5.20 am. Unbelievable the bus came from cirkewwa at nearly 6.00 am.
Issa sopra corna bastunare. Mhux bizzejjed li ma tigiex fil hin izda ma nafux xhin tghaddi precis. Mhux talli dak li kien qalilna li kellna indumu nistennew biss 10 minuti fuq stage izda talli irridu inkunu hemm tlett kwarti qabel. Sewwa qeghdin jghidu hafna nies- ara f'hiex gibuna, anqas titwemmen.
James Dewar
Aug 3rd 2011, 10:17
@ Janet Bayes
Yes, that was the contributor's whole point... that shouting the request just MAY produce a response from Arriva all other attempts having failed.
Hugh Jackson
Aug 3rd 2011, 03:06
For all of those who whining about the Marsascala bus, please note that some people had to walk from the bus terminus to their home for a lot of years, since Bus no.20 was suppost to come every hour and usually bus drivers go straight from Zabbar not from Marsascala new bypass. Thanks :)
John Mifsud
Aug 3rd 2011, 11:02
May route 91 offer better service to all Marsacala residents who deserve a better service! But we residents of Fgura are finding it IMPOSSIBLE to board bus 91 in the morning's first trips, thus many have been arriving late for work for the last 4 weeks!! I know, as I'm one of the 'victims' ! Ive been saying this for a whole month - a bus is needed to depart from either Zabbar or Fgura as bus 91 is always full up by the time it reaches Zabbar! We need action not fancy Arriva leaflets! John Mifsud
An. Caucchi
Aug 4th 2011, 08:01
Agree 100% with J. Mifsud.
In the early morning in Fgura is IMPOSSIBLE to take a 91 bus from Marsascala; and people who need a bus at 6:00 AM need it for WORK, not for going shopping or having fun !
So I should buy a car instead of using this "arriva service". And I know I am not alone.
Thanks Arriva, for this COMPLETE and TOTAL FAILURE.
Hugh Jackson
Aug 5th 2011, 21:05
Well not one or two times i personally had to wait for another bus since Zabbar residents used to go on bus number 19 instead of theirs 18
hugh jars
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:30
DAVE SMITH WHAT A TOSSER
James Dewar
Aug 3rd 2011, 21:40
Mr "Jars", do you have anything good, complimentary or remotely positive to say about anybody or anything !?
James Dewar
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:13
@ Dave Smith
Dave, More than likely Mr Bastow is not qualified to drive a bus otherwise he may have been able to understand and deal with some of the issues emanating from both drivers and passengers in recent weeks!
Regarding your observation that "Arriva are lacking semi skilled" etc, suffice to say it could justifiably be shortened to simply...."Arriva are lacking"!!
Maybe the elusive X23 is just a "Ghostbusser"
Ruby Jenner
Aug 3rd 2011, 09:18
The mystery of the X23 has been solved. A driver yesterday informed me this is a temperary route, I think for the summer. It seems that customer care or the controller's haven't been told about it. Too many chief's not enough indians is how the driver put it.
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 3rd 2011, 14:37
James, very good !
Side issue, wonder if Hugh's Tourette syndrome can be helped ?
Henry S. Pace
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:04
'A spokesman for the Ministry of Transport - Emanuel Delia - will be clarifying or correcting some of the points raised by readers '.
Can someone from the Ministry tell us who invented the names of the Bus Stops. In Rue D'Argens the Bus Stop was named RUE. Why not D'Argens because Rue meant Road. There are plenty of jargoned Bus Stops, Whoever is responsible for this gaffe should speak up .
John Mifsud
Aug 3rd 2011, 15:25
how about TIGIEG as a name for one of the bus stops??? I saw this at San Gwann! What an original name to give!! The 'inventor' must have puzzled his mind for hours and hours to come out with such a name for a bus stop!! John Mifsud
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Aug 3rd 2011, 16:53
@ Henry
Sounds more like the "Mystery of Transport" to me.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Aug 4th 2011, 01:46
@Henry S. Pace
I believe you are mistaken. I stopped on that exact stop at Rue d'Argens today, and both the sign on the pole and the wording on the bus read "Argens".
As I was doubtful after reading your comment, I also checked on the Arriva website, and confirmed it's "Argens". Check out the journey planner's bus stop names of Msida for any route that pass through there including 11-13, 22, 23 and so on... it's Argens.
The bus stops are generally named after either the streets they are on, junctions or intersections close by, or land marks close by. The bus stops are also unique across all of Malta and Gozo, such that if a bus stop is say on Valletta Road (a street name that is more common than oranges and lemons), they cannot call every bus stop on these streets Valletta, as it would just confuse people even more. Also, bus stops must be composed of a single word (I believe this to be a technical limitation of their IT system). Which is why they would call a bus stop Argens, rather than D'Argens. The only exception I know of this, which I believe to be a mistake, is the bus stop for San Giljan terminus, which is called San Giljan rather than Giljan. As a result, when approaching this stop the electronic display inside the bus displays 'San' as the next stop, which is daft, and why I believe it's a technical limitation.
When people complain about bus stops, as with most other complaints in my opinion, they tend to miss the point... The whole point of bus stop names is not to name the locality, but to serve as a point of reference where to wait or get off a bus, so that you may easily tell a friend, a tourist or a customer which would be the closest stop to your house, hotel or shop... So whether it's Tigieg, or Zwiemel or Karfus, it really doesn't matter. For all one should care, they could just be numbered, but then they would be harder to remember.
Henry S. Pace
Aug 2nd 2011, 22:57
If I am not mistaken Arriva placed the bus stps away from the glass shelters that were installed some years ago by the Ministry of Transport. May I ask why is this taking place ?
Why is it that the Mgarr to Victoria Bus does not wait for the passengers that at that time the ship is berthing by the quayside. It is observed that the bus leaves nearly empty while some few minutes later there are quite a number of people waiting for another bus to come. . The Buses should be according to the arrival of the ships' crossings.
Bernard Storace
Aug 2nd 2011, 21:35
I do not use the bus unless driven through necessity however, I must say that I have been delayed, while going around minding my own business in my little car, on a number of occasions, especially in and around the SLiema area because of a bus or busses manouvering themselves into tight spots they found difficult to get out of at the time. They are noisy thanks to the air conditioning units on the roof and pollution is not really reduced. But above all I dislike the bendy busses and I propose they be returned to whence they came from.....is it London???
Fortunato Said
Aug 2nd 2011, 19:21
After a month of operation, the Arriva bus service is still glitched, to the extent that although still during school holidays, car traffic on the roads has increased drastically. Thus the primary aim of the improved bus service is being negated.
I fail to understand how with all the expertise brought in and with an international bus company such as Arriva, certain drastic shortcomings have still not been sorted out:
(a) Buses not following the advertised and signposted routes.
(b) Electronic route indication on buses still not reliable
(c) "Direct" services stopping at all bus stops
(d) No incentive to buy long term bus tickets
(e) Unreasonably long journey times.
(f) No proper passenger accomodation at major bus stops/interchanges
I hope that the people at Arriva and Transport Malta can put their heads together and come up with a timetable of when these shortcomings will be rectified. Otherwise, the whole exercise will be a waste of time and tax-payers' money.
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 2nd 2011, 21:52
The whole exercise is a waste of time and money.
Put their heads together ?
PUT BASTOW AND MARLOW ON NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT.
John Mifsud
Aug 2nd 2011, 22:49
so true! We residents of Fgura are still waiting to get a decent bus service! In the morning, its IMPOSSIBLE to get a bus as all 91 buses are full up before reacing Fgura! What are they waiting for to do a bus from Zabbar or Fgura??? Transport Malta is simply non existent! John Mifsud
Paul Bates
Aug 3rd 2011, 01:34
Welcome to Arriva, now youknow what we put up with in the UK
Gary Jameson
Aug 3rd 2011, 14:00
Hello Fortunato ...
My thoughts on the Arriva from observation and experience. People can add to the list ...
Infrastructure:
>Bus stops not wide/long enough to allow a bus to pull up against the kerb.
>Illegal parking of vehicles in or adjacent to bus stops.
>Illegal parking of vehicles on various roads and streets making it difficult for buses to pass.
>Many bus stops do not have timetables displayed.
>Some bus stops are positioned where vehicles are legally parked making passengers having to alight/board the bus in the road (Rabat main bus stop, Mrabat St bus stop, Balzan village bus stop).
>Some bus stop signage is badly placed in relation to the bus stop.
>Route destinations on the bus stop signage is wrong (a classic example is Msida Bus Stop 0907).
>No proper passenger accommodation at major bus stops/interchanges.
>Some bus stops/interchanges still not ready or works in progress (Qali between Attard and Rabat).
>Bus stops on the Bikirkara bypass badly positioned running the danger of a rear-end collision when the bus is stopped.
As the servicing depot for the Arriva bus fleet was turned down prior to the roll-out of the new service, where is the heavy maintenance/servicing being done.
>A lot of road infrastructure should have been modified prior to service roll-out to allow for the larger buses.
>Birkirkara is advertised as having a bus terminus whereas in reality it is just a congested car park that the normal buses find it difficult to enter and exit.
>The electronic information system located at major bus stops/interchanges does not and never has worked.
>A lot of ticket machines at bus stops not working (many are still showing the protective plastic covering).
>Valletta bus station is too small and most probably will need to be expanded into the old bus marshalling area.
Buses:
>Wrong buses on the wrong routes (ie the route branding on the side of the bus is different to the route the bus is actually working).
>Some buses (Bendy-Bus and 12 metre King Long) are too big/long for the routes worked.
>Electronic route indication not working on all buses.
>Route numbers advertised on the front windows as under the old system.
>Door opening to slow on the King Long buses.
>Ticket issuing very slow (3 passengers could have been served on the old system with respect to a single ticket issue on the new system).
>Buses already showing 'battle-damage' after one month probably due to the routes worked.
>Overloading on buses during rush-hour periods, the standing limit on the old system was 12 and this is easily exceeded.
>Buses dirty interior and exterior and do not seem to cleaned on a daily basis.
>Not all of the fleet has air-conditioning.
>The bus fleet is probably to small in number to run the advertised services to the scheduled frequencies (I believe Arriva are bringing in another 100 buses which would back this claim).
>The bendy-busses are underpowered for the hills between St Pauls and Mellieha.
>The Three Villages should be served by small Optare hybrid buses brought in specifically for this purpose; to date I have yet to see one.
>Buses have a propensity to break down bearing in mind most are brand new.
Routes:
>Buses not always following the advertised and signposted routes.
>Some "direct" services stopping at all bus stops.
>X3 express service routed through narrow roads of Balzan causing chaos when it gets stuck outside of Cafe Papillon.
>Some routes are unreasonably too long in terms of distance/time.
>Poor co-ordination of feeder and the mainline (Valletta) routes.
>Buses not keeping to advertised timetables.
>Excessive waiting at bus stops.
>Poor route planning on the part of Transport Malta.
>No comprehensive testing of routes and infrastucture seems to have been undertaken by TM/Arriva (the whole service should have been run in parallel for a while to burn down any problems).
>Night bus routes haphazard.
Drivers:
>Drivers ignoring bus stops (my examples below) -
(Route 31 - Bus 039 - 27 July - 1845 - bypassed Qroqq bus stop on way to Buggiba).
(Route 106 - Bus 078 - 2 August - 0815 - refused to stop at Balzan Urbana on way to Mater Dei).
>Driver talking to passenger (my example below) -
(Route 41 - Bus 224 - 1 August - 1915 - between Msida & Birkirakara).
>Driver talking on mobile phone (my example below) -
(Route 13 - 22 July - 2000 - Sliema sea front).
>Drivers stopping or pulling out without indicating and in some cases nearly causing an accident (Gzira/Sliema sea front).
>Drivers driving too fast.
>Not enough drivers available due to the mass walkout of ex-ATP drivers and no contingency in place.
>Drivers overloading the bus.
>Drivers having to responds to inane requests for directions and bus information from passengers.
Other:
>Website route planner very poor as does not give the location of bus stops on a street map of Malta.
>No real time information available on the website with respect to the current service situation.
>No real time information available that will allow a person to see where a bus actually is anywhere in Malta.
>No statistics or metrics with respect to daily/weekly/monthly service quality available on the website.
>Route information on the website is very poor.
>Customer Care service poor to the point of being useless.
>Arriva/TM staff present at bus stops also appear to be clueless
>No incentive to buy long term bus tickets.
>Poor PR and information management on the part of Arriva regarding the current service.
>Appalling PR and information management on the part of the Maltese government regarding the current service.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Aug 4th 2011, 02:09
@Gary Jameson
Gary, I think that's a pretty good and comprehensive list indeed.
May I add a section about saver cards:
- Saver cards do not always work when scanned on buses
- It is not yet possible (after a month) to top up a card from the website or via customer care.
- It is also not possible to use credit cards for topping up saver cards, as advertised on the website, not even at ticket machines.
- Some bus stops are not simply missing timetables, but also flags (Bombi 3) and electronic display (Msida, L-Imsida - cables attached but no display).
- Customer care personnel are polite, but rather useless. Most of the time, they are uninformed, which highlights lack of communication between Arriva departments.
I also would like to correct two points:
- There is actually a good incentive for using long-term tickets. The weekly ticket saves a traveller €1 per week for the commuter using the bus Monday to Friday, and more for those who use it on weekends too. The saver card saves even more, as you get two weeks free (over the weekly ticket price) when you buy a 90-day top-up up front.
- I believe the plastic left on some ticket machines may be intentional, for protection. However, some machines even have the cardboard box packaging on (e.g. Qroqq, Msida). And some are simply turned off (e.g. Kullegg, Msida).
May I suggest you forward this list to Arriva's customer care... not that they will do much about it.
Gary Jameson
Aug 4th 2011, 10:53
@To Clyde -
Thanks Clyde for your comments and corrections. I am sure many people who have posted here can draw up a similar list; so what I suggest is that people add their own comments. Once we have compiled a comprehensive list it can be sent to Arriva Customer Care en-mass.
The same list of problems sent in by many people would be hard for them to ignore, I think ..!
jay smith
Aug 4th 2011, 16:16
add the following to the list, maybe arriva will start ticking the list off.
screens on buses are very dirty, visibility at night is poor.
Screen wash on buses is never filled, not sure if they know how to fill them up.
Valletta driver change over, is chaotic, English officials making things worse, by trying to change bus drivers, like they do in England. It will not work here, as to many drivers are changing at the same time in Valletta.
Tell the policeman in Valletta, to stop shouting at bus drivers, "to keep moving on", officials say stop here to replace drivers, and police and tm say change drivers at that ditch, do not stop here. Who will you follow? And they all shout at you, saying they will report you. Its now getting a joke. arriva sort it out. This is also a hot spot for an accident to happen.
Buzzers on buses wrongly positioned, people keep knocking them, and buses keep stopping in every stop.
Drivers not giving enough time, to check buses during change over, jump on it and go.
bus safety check list. are mostly never collected or read, from the buses. making it possible for a bus to go on the road, when it shouldnt be on the road.
A Caruana
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:56
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
WE WANT A DIRECT BUS TO VALLETTA FROM MARSASCALA FROM NEAR CERVIOLA HOTEL!
You never know repetiton parrot like may finally get into those Arriva heads!
James Dewar
Aug 2nd 2011, 22:58
Only if they first remove their heads the sand where they have been firmly lodged since 03/07!!
Mrs Janet Bayes
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:09
How rude is that? You should know that capital letters on a blog like this is the same as shouting in someones ear. Its rude and obnoxious behaviour.
Anthony Roberts
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:37
Please pull into the curb just as the buses do in other parts of Europe. Why is that it seems to be an impossibility in this country?
Philip Pryce
Aug 2nd 2011, 18:56
In many cases, the marked bus stops haven't changed since the old buses were here. Many are too short to allow the longer Arriva buses to get in to the kerb. I do agree that where they can, they should get close.
Anthony Roberts
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:36
Larger buses during the peak times, ie. last Friday no 82 was the smallest bus to arrive at approx 1.30 p.m. People had to stand all the way home while others got left behind after waiting ages in the heat. Where was the sense of that.
Alfred Fenech
Aug 2nd 2011, 14:45
Indicators please. Park in the curbside to pick up passangers and drop off.
Anthony Roberts
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:35
Gosh you are so right. My wife suffers greatly each time she has to get off the bus. I thought that this new service was going to be customer friendly but alas, there is still no compassion for the disabled except the seats. How can any one get on or off the bus when they are in pain?
Mrs Janet Bayes
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:11
Maybe if there were not so many cars parked all over the place willy nilly, illegally, and often in the bus stop, that request would be easier for the drivers to comply with?
hugh jars
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:13
INDICATORS YOU HAVING A LAUGH
Joseph Galea
Aug 2nd 2011, 09:10
No matter what the problems that Arriva have faced and are facing, for whatever reason - sabotage, bad planning etc. the situation can NEVER, EVER be as bad as what they replaced. Thank God that the garbage trucks that passed for buses, many driven by louts and thugs, are gone forever.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Aug 2nd 2011, 15:42
A true maltese patriot. Hallina
Mr Clyde Ellul
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:57
@Joseph Galea
I agree with that. People forget very easily, the strikes and the chaos they created, even man-handling drivers who wouldn't strike off private tourist buses in front of bewildered tourists!
We complain that these buses are too big and forget how much we used to complain about the old buses having no leg space and aisles too narrow for anyone to pass!
We complain of dual tariff schemes for locals and tourists, and we forget just how many times tourists were ripped off by the old drivers because they wouldn't give them any change!
We complain that the elderly have to walk a bit longer or change buses and we forget how many times we've seen old drivers drive recklessly and stepping on the breaks and LAUGHING when some old standing man on the bus would almost fall to the floor!!...
I've seen these with my own eyes! No one would dare take it up with the driver, ghax biex itik xi xebgha hadida ma kont trid xejn! I reported them though on several occasions... but it was just my word against the driver's and nothing ever seemed to happen!
No thank you... keep the old yellow buses and their thugs astray! I want the new buses to work properly and run on time as promised, run frequently and with inappropriate routes corrected. But leave the old buses in some transport history museum where they belong.
@Lawrence Fenech
I think you have a very strange sense of patriotism, if you think you're some 'true patriot' because you want the old buses and the old thugs back! Trust me, you will be getting no medal for that! The "better the devil you know" attitude has never gotten this or any other country anywhere.
Carmel Cilia
Aug 2nd 2011, 19:11
Dear Mr. Galea then maybe there were four hundred or even if youwish five hundred bus drivers blaspheming. Today I can assure you there are one hundred thousand starting the day in the morning blaspheming and calling all kind of words to that arrogant and'kisser kull ma jmiss' of a minister you know who.
Maurice Agius
Aug 2nd 2011, 21:19
I completely agree, people are complaining because the new buses aren't puntual (which by the way is rubbish because I catch buses everyday and it's fine, just in need of some fixing here and there) but if the new ones are bad, what were the old ones!!
hugh jars
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:15
SUPERB. SHAME PEOPLE AINT ALL LIKE YOU SIR
Ruby Jenner
Aug 2nd 2011, 23:42
Agree Joseph Galea. 100%. The driver's are smart and polite. The buses are more comfortable and not belching out black fumes.
James Connor
Aug 2nd 2011, 08:48
hi i come to malta very often and have been useing the old buses with no problems.with all the arriva problems i do not know if i should use the arriva buses.i only need them for pleasure so it is not so important,but i still like to travel around malta.can anybody advise me please.i have been coming to malta for 31 years ie 40 times in lovely malta.i am staying in marsaskala.saha
Richard Pace
Aug 2nd 2011, 13:01
The bus service from Marsacala is pretty bad at the moment. Non-Arriva are introducing the old routes again on monthly intervals but they could be dome every week or fortnightly till a satisfactory service is reached.
Ms Francesca Abela
Aug 2nd 2011, 14:53
James: there is NO direct Bus to Valletta from the Jerma and Cerviola and Zonqor areas, if you need to get to Valletta you have to take a hike to the Terminus as our so Clever Arriva with their best buddies Transport Malta decided to remove our direct bus. You can get to Airport many times a day but to Valletta forget it unless you walk all the way down to the Terminus near the main playing field. Can you imagine my elderly mother having to walk all the way from neat the ex Jerma Hotel to near Grabiel to get the bus to Valletta? Yes that's the sad reality our Transport Minister has gotten this country into!
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:19
James, Don't let this Arriva debacle spoil your trip to Malta.
Supreme Travel offer a very good daily tour round the island and throw in a free mini boat trip as well !
It's called Maltasightseeing Hop on Hop off. Over 40 stops round the island and Gozo.
www.maltasightseeing.com
Hope this helps
Jamie Iain Genovese
Aug 3rd 2011, 00:06
But really and truly, you'll probably be fine. I've been using them since about a week after they started and haven't had problems. I buy a day ticket (1.50) and travel to my heart's content. Right now, drivers not turning up to work seems to stir havoc, but that's something that I can't blame Arriva for.
Oh and, they're air conditioned and more spacious. Less of my awkwardly rubbing against people after a long day of God-knows-what. :)
James Dewar
Aug 2nd 2011, 00:00
@ Hugh Jars
Must be your short attention span that makes otherwise interesting and informative articles boring to you ! Maybe you should get out more..... possibly a few Arriva excursions will broaden the mind!!!
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 1st 2011, 23:44
@ Mr Bastow, Ref page 3 Sunday "The Times" your statements.
At least an Asian MD would have Lost Face and fallen on his own sword.
You must have more front than Harrods
Philip Pryce
Aug 1st 2011, 21:36
I caught a number 23 from Sliema to Valletta today. There was some non-uniformed lad checking tickets as people boarded the bus. He proceeded to stand next to the driver and chat all the way to Valletta. Next it will be cigarettes and mobile phones. Some things never change.
James Dewar
Aug 1st 2011, 20:35
These are much more than "teething troubles". As time goes on it becomes clearer that Halcrow, Arriva and TM have quite simply got so very much so very badly wrong in their attempts to "revolutionise" the Maltese public transport system. The period since 03/07 has proved beyond doubt that they were massively unprepared and grossly underestimated the scale of the task. One seriously questions the level of competence of those charged with the responsibility of making the service work.
It is highly debatable after this horrendous start if they will now ever be able to satisfy the Maltese travelling public and the thousands of tourists who have over the years come to depend upon the "Malta Bus".
Whatever may be said about the old buses (and there has been a lot), notwithstanding their faults and the attitude of some of the drivers,in the main they were dependable and "did what it said on the tin".
I don't profess to have a solution to to this increasingly serious issue but it would seem that the whole dynamic of the operation has been mis-judged (routes, drivers, bus types, management, supervision, service/maintenance infrastructure etc) and to rectify all of these will take much more than a few "fine tuning" adjustments.
Arriva may well be hearing the complaints of the travelling public but one fears that they (and others with a stake in the fiasco) are simply not listening. Unless they rapidly start to heed what is being said they may well go down in history as having been responsible for a revolution but not of the type they envisaged!
cettina portelli
Aug 2nd 2011, 19:29
yes, mr. dewar, i agree completely about what you said regarding the old buses.....with all their faults....THEY WERE DEPENDABLE. what we have now from ARRIVA is DEPLORABLE
Mr Emanuel Farrugia
Aug 1st 2011, 19:43
Tgergir u tgergir mic-cittadini rigward 'the new bus stops'. Ic-cittadini 'BUSES' godda riedu u mhux dewmien bil-'Bus Stops' 'l godda. We need with immediate effect, motivated, professional and good leadership from the Transport Malta personnel.
Emanuel Farrugia former Executive Secretary Mtarfa Local Council
James Dewar
Aug 1st 2011, 20:39
Emanuel, Indeed we do! Evidence of ANY leadership has so far been conspicuously absent from these proceedings! As a start even some "mediocre" leadership may help to get things moving !
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 1st 2011, 21:48
Simple, Emanuel, FIRE BASTOW AND MARLOW NOW, Arriva need to get a serious grip on this situation and bring in the top guys from Deuctshe Bahn before it's out of control. It may be to late ,jokes are over, so is Bastows honeymoon period!
John Mifsud
Aug 3rd 2011, 11:10
well done Mr Farrugia for your comments! It seems that Transport Malta never reads these comments, or simple, dont care what the passengers want! We residents of Fgura are in urgent need of a bus departing from Zabbar or Fgura in the early morning trips, as bus 91 ALWAYS arrive full up and no one can arrive to work on time! Is this what we were hoping for? When will our needs be heard? Do we have to wait till September 11 to be getting a good service?? Honestly, i think it will take much longer! John Mifsud
Bernard Dulcet
Aug 1st 2011, 18:36
Destroying people's lives such as increasing risks of getting fired!!!!!
Carmel Cilia
Aug 1st 2011, 16:17
This morning the first bus to pick up passengers at the Belleview bus terminus Mellieha appeared at 10 minutes to six. It left cirkewwa after getting on the gozo ferry passengers because now this bus is fixed to the ferry's arrival. Needless to say it arrived at valletta although eliminating the bugibba/ qawra route at about 10 to seven. With the old system we used to arrive at valletta with the first bus which left mellieha at 5.30am. at around 6.20 am i.e half an hour earlier.
The problem is this - are we Mellieha residents going to be turned into gozitan travellers during the winter months. In winter on several occasions the ferry would be late to arrive at Cirkewwa depending on the natural sea conditions. Does this mean that we have to go to the terminus at 5.30 am and wait and hope for the best.
Arriva the service you are offering is disgusting. Thank your stars that the Maltese breed are chickens and people without guts otherwise they would have already dumped you and those who brought you here.
Richard Pace
Aug 1st 2011, 17:56
I agree with you . DUMP ARRIVA AND THOSE WHO BROUGHT THEM HERE>
Richard Pace
Aug 1st 2011, 15:55
I have just received another Arriva leaflet through the door advising us of ONLY THREE ROUTE CHANGES with effect from to-day.
Who do they think they are pulling wool over one's eyes.
So far in this fiasco only Route 41 becomes a direct route from Cirkewwa to Valletta,
Route 63 will be providing a direct service from Qormi to Valletta,
and Route 71/72 will not be serving bus stops within the airport! Surely MIA is small enough for only one bus stop!!! So from Qrendi and Zurrieq there will be a direct bus but no details of frequency!!! Typical English fiasco.
I think these English managers think that they are pulling a fast one on us.
Route 63 runs every 60 minutes wheras before it ran every 15 minutes, Route 41 runs every 30 minutes wheras before it ran every 15 minutes. There is no mention of frequency on Routes 72/71.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Aug 1st 2011, 17:20
@Richard Pace
Excuse me if I think that this is yet another uninformed comment!
When Arriva & TM announced the 27 route changes, they made it clear that the changes would come along in four phases. Quoting from the Times article about the network changes announcement:
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The changes will be implemented over four months, with the first taking place on July 31. They will be staggered to come into effect on September 4, October 2 and October 30.
Unquote
The full article is on this page:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110723/local/Arriva-makes-27-route-changes.376921
The official statement, which states the same thing, can be found on Arriva's own website at:
http://www.arriva.com.mt/news-details?id=84&l=1
Assuming you're comparing old routes with new ones, route 91 was roughly equivalent to route 63 and used to run every 30 minutes, not 15; I know because I rode it every day to work from Qormi. As for old route 45, I think it did run every 15 mins, but whereas Cirkewwa used to only be served by route 45 and 645 (which ran much less frequently and less regularly), now it is being served by route 11, 41 and X1.
Bernard Dulcet
Aug 1st 2011, 18:39
What a service!!! I wait for four months!!! It only takes few days getting late to work until you get your first warning and eventually fired.
Ms Francesca Abela
Aug 2nd 2011, 00:46
Heaven help us if it takes another month or two just to get a simple extension of the route for Marsascala Bus no 91!! All it involves is going in one street and out of another and hey presto a lot of complaints will be solved. It is totally unbelieveable this mess created with the change of routes without consulting anyone and then taking forever to change them back. Mamma Mia!!
John Mifsud
Aug 3rd 2011, 10:56
But what aboout bus 91 from Marsascala? It hardly ever picks up passengers from Fgura on the first morning trips, thus leaving many people stranded! Is that the service we expected from Arriva? Cant Transport Malta realise that if a bus departs from Zabbar or Fgura will solve the problem of many workers arriving late for work? Are'nt 4 WEEKS enough to realise this??? Wake up Transport Malta! Wake up!! John Mifsud
Ruby Jenner
Aug 1st 2011, 12:38
Can anyone help me clear up a mystery concerning bus X23 route Golden Bay to Qawra terminus. I contacted customer care at arriva for info on times for this route only to informed that this bus X23 does not exist. I have been using it almost daily now for over a week, in fact I used it yesterday. Arriva customer care suggested to me it might not be an arriva bus, but I assured them it is blue and the driver's are wearing arriva uniform. X23 is clearly displayed on cards at the front of the bus.Then I was told it could be a driver who has deviated from his correct route and just picked passenger's up as he was going that way. Surely a driver couldn't get lost everyday with out anyone noticing. Has anyone used this X23 bus in the last week as I am beginning to think I have been on the phantom bus. I hope it continues to run as it has made my journey so much quicker than having to go to Mosta and changing.
James Dewar
Aug 1st 2011, 20:44
Ruby, I eagerly await confirmation from someone regarding your query. Fascinating and a new dimension to the ongoing saga. Could it be Keith Bastow out driving as a last resort attempt to resolve the ongoing issues before his enforced early retirement?
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 1st 2011, 22:03
Ruby, wish I could help, my wife and I sit outside a cafe most mornings, think we saw an X23 going through St Pauls once but maybe he was lost as well. Seen a few getting jammed up here tho'
Good Luck
Mr Dave Smith
Aug 2nd 2011, 13:31
James,
Whilst I assume we both empathise with Rubys' plight the question arises is Bastow even qualified to drive a bus?
Never mind put a nut in a monkeys mouth, and by all reports Arriva are lacking semi-skilled and/ or skilled technicians to assist them on the later.
Mario Desira
Aug 2nd 2011, 14:13
With 2012 less than one year away you may have possibly without knowing crossed to another dimension, a parallell earth, where Arriva seems to be having better luck! However if you are back to this dimension, I.m afraid the service here is still dismal and awiaiting normality :) Welcome back anyway!
Stephanie Scerri
Aug 2nd 2011, 16:39
I too have looked up the time table of the X23 bus, after seeing it at Golden Bay and Qawra terminus on several occasions. However, I did not manage to find any info on the website. I just assumed that it must be replacing the old 652 bus.
After my experience with Arriva customer care regarding another issue, I did not bother to call them for further info as they seem to have a set of generic answers ready which they just read out to you, without answering your questions.
Ms Francesca Abela
Aug 1st 2011, 10:52
3 Buses no 91 driving after each other in Marsascala Marina street at about 10.30pm, not even enough space at the terminus for them all to stay, yet the Bus 91 still is not going round the San Tumas tower back from Qaliet street, a journey of about 5 mins, wonder why??
Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze
Aug 5th 2011, 13:04
Because Arriva clearly don't give two hoots about Marsaskala residents, that's why!
chris tuckley
Aug 1st 2011, 08:41
The old service was not first class, but it worked, you got where you wanted to go roughly when you wanted to be there.If something is not dead dont bury it. "Thats what as been done to the old yellow buses.
Why is there 2 fare scales, one for Maltese and one for the tourist? If we did that in the UK there would soon be an outcry. Travel agents are no longer reccomending Malta as a holiday destination because of the bus service. They are telling pottential tourist if you go to St Pauls Bay you cannot get anywhere else on the Island except by taxi. Please sort this hic-cup out before its to late.
Kåre Windsheimer
Aug 1st 2011, 01:10
As a visitor to Malta for some years, I have enjoyed many charachteristics of this beautiful island: old buildings as churches, bastions, charming cities and the special MALTESE BUSES !
Now I am chocked and horrified : you will remove them from your streets !
And that overnight ! You are throughing away something that seems to me beeing a soul of what all tourists connects to Malta. The bus owners/ drivers who kept these historic, but still functional vehicles in traffic to the satisfaction of all tourist and what I believe to the general population of Malta.
Of course, I have nothing against modern transport, the irregulaties in timetable and so on they will surely manage to fix in some time. Especially if the authorities listen to the average and local travelers.
But I feel something really special is lost with this new bus system.
From a touristic view I hope there will be possible to operate a few lines with the best and most characteristic of the buses?
Your tramway has gone(nothing left), your railway has gone( only a badly kept station building in a park) and now the same fate for your lovely buses !
Don't change everything for the joy of modernisation and miss history on the scrap yard!
Still loving Malta !
Richard Pace
Aug 1st 2011, 18:06
I agree with you. The buses could have been re-engineed and air-conditioned with newly upholstered seats.
hugh jars
Aug 1st 2011, 19:30
try living here and using those old crap heaps. tourists make me sick, here for 2 weeks and saying how it should be run, stay away!!!!!!!!
Philip Pryce
Aug 1st 2011, 21:45
@ Hugh Jars. So you want the tourists to stay away do you? They were always taking photos of them. They had a certain 'charm' and unique character. I really welcome the comfortable air conditioned new buses and will use them regularly (if they actually turned up!) but I really can't understand why the old buses have completely disappeared. Where have they gone? How can you hide so many old buses? Why couldn't they keep some of the better-maintained ones for tourist purposes?
Vincent Zerafa
Jul 31st 2011, 22:25
Before the 3rd July, I used to get a bus at 5:30am everyday from Zurrieq to Valletta. I used to stop at Bombi. I go down the stairs, then from Bombi catch another bus, used to be numbered 66 or 64, to St. Julians. I used to punch for work between 6:20am and 6:30am. Half an hour before I begin. Now a days, first bus is at 5:39am, from Zurrieq, and till today, I arrive St. Julians always after 7am. That is the difference. The routes are different and longer to arrive.
Why all this is happening. We still need that the first bus from Zurrieq, begins at 5:30am, no matter what. Always is being full up. Once we arrive at Luqa Parish Square, there will be no other space. And they will be left there on their Bus Stop. I feel sorry for them.
I really thank the drivers, for their effort and commitment. The temperature must be 21degrees, no more no less.
hugh jars
Aug 1st 2011, 19:30
BORING!!!!!!!!!!
John Mifsud
Aug 3rd 2011, 15:34
the same happens to me! Used to get a bus from Fgura at 5,35 am and then a bus from Bombi and reach work by 6 20am, Now, with the new famous Arriva service, i arrive at 7am, 30 minutes late for work! My, what a shoddy service!! Thanks Transport Malta for making our journey a happy one as the bus ticket says!! Well done!! John Mifsud
Ms C Camilleri
Jul 31st 2011, 20:56
Ok, so for the last three weeks i've had to take my kids to lessons in Valletta as the 126 from St lucija either does not come or comes at unknown times. On Thursday my daughter had an activity at Rabat so i asked Arriva customer service for Paola-Rabat bus details. Courteously the person who answered explained that buses leave Paola to Rabat every 5 minutes past, such as 3.05, 3.35, etc.
So i drove my daughter to Paola at 2.45 to wait for the 3.05 Rabat bus. At 3.15, with no bus in sight i asked an official standing at the bus stop. He said one had passed a short while ago. He advised that we take a bus to Valletta then another to Rabat as he said "another hour can pass before the buss for Rabata reaches Paola, then two might pass immediately after each other!".
I said that i felt we should wait for the Paola-Rabat bus. At 3.30pm with no bus in sight i asked what the route details of the bus in question was like. The official indicated that i should speak to a lad who was sitting on at the bust shelter. The lad, wearing a t-shirt with a cartoon on it and bermudas, with no sign or identification on him on being questioned admitted that he worked for Transport Malta. From his plastic bag he took out some papers and looked up the Paola-Rabat route. The bus stops invovled are many and i reckon the trip would take about an hour from Paola to Rabat at the best of times.
So i gave up and drove my daughter to Valletta. She of course arrived late for her activity at Rabat. Given that buses are passing without sticking to a known schedule i was compelled to go pick her up at Rabat.
This is unacceptable ARRIVA! As for Transport Malta, the designing of routes is one meant to cut down on costs very much at the expense of commuters' time. Saying that the public did not participate at the consultation stage is pathetic: the public's participation is not the requisite to ensure that TMalta does its job properly. So if the public does not respond to a consultation does it mean an authority is being instructed to design things badly??
Timothy Cachia
Aug 1st 2011, 07:00
This is pretty normal from what i heard. Buses should wait and leave at the appointed time... not cause they arrived early, they can leave early to go feast on some pastizzi and beer.
hugh jars
Aug 1st 2011, 19:31
BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rachel Mangion
Jul 31st 2011, 18:35
Hey!
It's OK To complain...I mean...I miss those Lovely Drivers waiting for you to Come in and hand them Your 50c.....And those Yellow buses.....Who could forget them! Those Pictures of Saints and dead relatives (which...With the Drivers' bad words they are Praised!) and The *mind your head* Sign which is scribbled over the ''always-open'' door.
I would Sure Miss them.
Elizabeth Lama
Jul 31st 2011, 16:50
i cannot comment as the language i would use is not fit for publishing.
Rachel Mangion
Jul 31st 2011, 18:35
Oh...I know what you mean :)
Mario Desira
Jul 31st 2011, 15:31
Saturday 30th July 2011.
Stranded as usual in Paceville with people waiting for night buses that never turn up.
Deparuture was midnight as per schedule. The Arriva dispatcher eventually turned up.
I asked him when the N71 bus was coming and he replied on the way.
After 30 mins I again asked him when the N71 was coming and he said there was no N71 at midnight but at 0130 am!
After a further 15 minutes waiting I again asked the Dispatcher why certain Night buses had turned up at midnight but not the N71 to which he then admitted lack of buses!
This is sheer incompetence from Arriva as I never expect shortage of buses or drivers for a trip that takes place twice a week from Paceville to Mqabba!
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 31st 2011, 12:59
Best of order,best of order.
As Keith steps up to the ochy in front of the board.
Mr Bastow, you require ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY drivers to check out !
Quiet Please.
Best of luck.
James Dewar
Jul 31st 2011, 19:04
Bullseye! But I'm sure that the ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY drivers "checked out" some weeks ago!! Surely we can't now be set to lose the remainder!
James Camilleri
Jul 31st 2011, 11:40
Why all this moaning? Arriva operations will soon be as they should, that is by the time the Xaqq tal-Belt (or Fetha or Breach but please do not call it city gate) is ready to be inaugurated. After all that is why this revolution in the public transport was taken into hand. A new bus non-service for a new non-Gate.
hugh jars
Aug 1st 2011, 19:36
BORING!!!!!!
Warren Galea
Jul 31st 2011, 10:35
The supposed "night service" from Paceville is still inexistent...
Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze
Aug 1st 2011, 11:47
And so is the Marsaskala route passing through Triq il-Qaliet which Arriva promised but failed to deliver! What a disgrace!
hugh jars
Aug 1st 2011, 19:36
NON EXISTENT!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 31st 2011, 10:25
Bingo Arriva over 1,000 comments record for complaints. We now look forward for the 2,000th comment.
James Dewar
Jul 30th 2011, 22:00
@ Dave Smith
Today 19:04
Dave, Sinister development this.........a new form of Chinese Torture administered by Arriva. Whatever next?
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 31st 2011, 16:08
Water boarding ,James, Water boarding !
James Dewar
Jul 30th 2011, 21:55
@ Anthony Borg
Anthony ,in this ongoing and, some would say, increasing shambles I am sure that a large part of the Maltese population and tourists would settle for just "ARRIVING" in the hope that the "on time" aspect could be addressed in due course!!
Anthony Borg
Jul 31st 2011, 11:39
@ James Dewar Yesterday, 21:55
Yes, definitely James, but having a time-table of sorts (+ 10 minutes or so at the most – not hours!) should enable all of us to arrive somewhat on time for work and other daily appointments.
Since Arriva started operations, I would be lucky indeed to make one errand the whole morning!
Angelo Gatt
Jul 30th 2011, 19:17
Arriva deceided to change it's name. It's called Aspetta now.
With all these complaints, did any of the ministers or better Minister Gatt had used any of the buses since 3rd July ?
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 31st 2011, 10:30
@Albert
Sa kemm jibqa hemm is-sur Austin li waqa fil-muta hekk jibqghu l-affarijiet buzzullotti. Mr. 38% baqa' hemm allavolja ghaddiedt il-ligi tad-divorzju ghax paga doppja ghal partime job ghogbithu.
Doris Farrugia
Aug 1st 2011, 21:45
I think Tardiva or retardiva should be considered as well.Tardiva because everywhere one goes is always late or has to go back home for the car;retardiva is because the inspectors are reading the time on the clock the wrong way so the bus is never on time or does not show at all.We Gudja residents are experiencing both!!!!
albert pace
Jul 30th 2011, 19:16
When will the buzzullotti of Arriva and the Malta Transport authority come to an end?
JOE ZAHRA
Jul 30th 2011, 18:28
The Rabat main terninus has been changed from Saqqajja ,to by the Roman Villa. It seem that nobody done any work study, because if they did or had any experence of the area ,they would have kmown how hard its gone to be in winter ,for the people that use the buses. The Roman Villa area is open to the elements from all side making it one the of the coldest places in Malta. The new bus shelters are placed yhe wrong way round . People using the buses in Dec, JAN and Feb are in for the shock of thier LIFE. Where is the planning in all this
Elizabeth Hair
Aug 3rd 2011, 14:07
this is in reply to Mr John Mifsuds comments, thanks for that I live in Fgura and to get to work in time for my 8am start I have to be at the bus stop at 6am, this has been since the new buses started and Im exhausted, but the buses always go by full and once you do catch one they already stopped using the airconditioning !!!!!!
Where is the supposed improvement please
Mr Paul Borg
Jul 30th 2011, 18:18
How about a compensation for the damage caused to Valletta businesses due to lousy bus service and incompetence. Businesses are on the verge of shutting down and others will soon follow. Cocopazzo Restaurant VALLETTA
C Abdilla
Jul 30th 2011, 15:54
I have just read from Arriva website that Routes No 71 and 72 will no longer pass through the Airport. What about Gudja residents? X4 isn't enough!!! Do we have to wait till September to have another bus serving Gudja residents?
albert pace
Jul 30th 2011, 14:43
A friend of mine together with about another 100 passengers were stranded on an Arriva Bus at Tower Road. This BUS had a fault in the electicity system with the result that the passengers could not go out due to a blocked door and were left stranded on the bus without airconditioning with all the doors closed.
They had to remain on the bus banging on the doors and windows until assistance arrived after 2 hours in sauna conditions.
Mrs Janet Bayes
Jul 30th 2011, 17:38
Is that not why buses are fitted with emergency exits? Hard to believe that 100 passengers and a driver were just stuck on the bus.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 30th 2011, 19:04
SO ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT ARRIVA BUSES HAVE NO MANUALLY ACTUATED EMERGENCY EXITS NOW??? GET OUT OF HERE BASTOW.
Anthony Borg
Jul 30th 2011, 23:07
@ Mrs Janet Bayes: "...Hard to believe that 100 passengers and a driver were just stuck on the bus".
@ Mr Albert Pace: Mr. Pace, could you please inform your friend to verify this unpleasant incident as Mrs Janet Bayes seems so eager to jump in to the rescue of "everything Arriva".
Mrs Janet Bayes
Jul 31st 2011, 14:12
@ Anthony Borg - - - I KNOW that there are safety regulations and emergency exits on these buses. I KNOW there are hammers to break the windows. Therefore it is hard to believe that particular story. I am not defending Arriva - - merely stating an opinion based on facts.
Mrs Janet Bayes
Jul 31st 2011, 14:31
@Anthony BorgFrederick Gauci
Today, 09:35
Sorry dave Smith.
Have you ever been on an Arriva Bus lately???
They are all fitted with with the hammers and safety belt cutters.
If the accident really happened they just panicced and no-one used his common sense to open the doors manually.
The kinglongs have a manual turning knob on each door and the bendies as well, on each door it has an emergency turning knob and it is well visible.
Mr Dave Smith
Today, 09:48
Thanks Frederick for the Info.
Thought so,have have my doubts about his one as well.
To answer your question NO, they don't stop, however have kept my account wth Hertz open !
jay smith
Aug 1st 2011, 03:55
albert pace, buses doors are operated by air, and not electrics. doors can be opened anytime, even if the bus has no battery on it. if it is fault with the air tanks, than the doors can be pulled or pushed open. the question is why you lie and stirr things up, maybe you or a relative of yours is one of the old dodgy bus drivers.
Bernard Dulcet
Aug 1st 2011, 18:57
I would for sure use that window hammer breaker which I often get tempted but end up hesitating.
John Zammit
Jul 30th 2011, 13:56
This morning I taught of going to Valletta from B'kara and as I got to the Mallia bus stop I missed the bus by a couple of seconds. I decided to wait for the next one from # 41 or 42 or 43 that pass through this stop. For the next 35 minutes nothing came and decided to cancel my trip and go back home. This is pure garbage!!!!
Arriva you arrived here almost a month ago, however your services are far from perfect. lots of improvements still need to be achieved right now rather that within the next couple of months.
An interesting thing is that two buses #202 literally tailed each other the opposite way. this was around 11.35am. where is the co-ordination.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 30th 2011, 13:53
At time of writing we are up to 979 comments. Are we gonna break the four figures by the weekend?
Gatt, Bastow, Marlow and Delia still amongst those present?
James Dewar
Jul 30th 2011, 18:45
Dave, "Probably" is the answer to both questions!
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 30th 2011, 21:20
Cheers James, Just spoken to a transport inspector in the UK, frequent visitor to Malta,also reports diectly to VOSA. The pneumatic doors have a 3 way fail to open safety valve above the doors. Don't know what happend to Albert's mate above? But can only confirm had my wife and self been on the bus within 60 seconds Arriva would have requied a reliable glazier !
Oh and they should also provide tungsten tipped widow hammers and seat belt cutters??????
Frederick Gauci
Jul 31st 2011, 09:35
Sorry dave Smith.
Have you ever been on an Arriva Bus lately???
They are all fitted with with the hammers and safety belt cutters.
If the accident really happened they just panicced and no-one used his common sense to open the doors manually.
The kinglongs have a manual turning knob on each door and the bendies as well, on each door it has an emergency turning knob and it is well visible.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 31st 2011, 09:48
Thanks Frederick for the Info.
Thought so,have have my doubts about his one as well.
To answer your question NO, they don't stop, however have kept my account wth Hertz open !
Philip Edwards
Jul 30th 2011, 13:23
Hi, we live in Melbourne Australia and we visited your lovely island last year and we plan to visit again next year. Last year when we were there we experienced your bus service. We found it very hot ( no air conditioning) but we enjoyed the service, it got us to our destinations quickly and regulary. We hope your bus company pulls its finger out and fixes the service quickly before we return. The old bus routes were ok and should be returned as well as the timetables. We look forward to our return next year, wishing we were there now. Bye Regards Carmen & Phil Edwards
Mr mario aquilina
Jul 30th 2011, 12:10
I think that there is too many Maltese cowboys employed with arriva, and with this kind of wages, one cannot expect better.
The other day, I was at the Arriva's headquarters, where I watched someone's parents filling a job application form for their own young son who stood by staring at the ceiling and that between the three of them did not know what to write where it said, title. A simple MR. or MRS. The son must have left school in the last five years or so. I taught, please help me God.
I believe, that if Arriva was left on their own without Maltese influence, our transport system would not be in this mess.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 30th 2011, 12:00
Arriva Arriva 1,000 comment getting closer.
Thomas Mc Lear
Jul 30th 2011, 10:31
Dont you wish for the good old days.Remember laughter.Hahahahehehe.Bring back the Charabancs.
James Wightman
Jul 30th 2011, 07:30
My girlfriend took the X2 to work the other day, trying to use it as part of her journey to get from St Julians to Marsa. She messaged me after 45mins to say she had almost made it too the Qormi interchange. Some 20mins later i get a message saying she was at work. Having covered twice the distance by bicycle to Safi, I was washed (thanks to the company wash basin) and at my desk for some time. Why bother with the bus?
Carmel Cilia
Jul 30th 2011, 06:52
Today Saturday 30th July at 5.30 a.m. After the lasttwo consequitive days in which there was a bus that left at 5.30.am from the Bellewiew bus terminus this morning nothing appeared. Why? People have to go to work and arrive one time. This is the end of the forth week. You wake up everymorning not knowing whether you are going to make it to work in time. Prosit Mr. Gatt. kieku messejt xi haga u hallejta tajba. Kien haqqek iz-zieda ta 500 ewo+ fil gimgha wkoll.
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 29th 2011, 22:32
Mr Austin Gatt/ Mr Keith Barstow - Do you know that Arriva is entering it's FIFTH week of operations? Do you know that Marsascla residents are STILL WAITING for a DECENT bus service to Valletta? Do you know that the 119 Bus to M'xlokk is ALWAYS EMPTY? Do you know that the Bus 91 ONLY stops at the Terminus and does not cover the largest residential area ie Siberia ( how apt the name is) Do you knaow that before the Arrival of Arriva - Marscascala was served by no less than THREE BUSES to Valletta in an hour and i Bus to Cospicua every hour? Do you know that pre - Arriva EVERY PART of Marsascala was served by the Bus, now post Arriva only the centre of the village where there are the LEAST residents is served by the bus?
What exactly are you waitibg for to bering bact a direct bus to Valletta from all areas in the village and remove the waste by removing the empty buses going where no one wants to go!
James Dewar
Jul 30th 2011, 19:53
Francesca, You ask the question "Do you know that" of Messrs Gatt and Bastow. Perhaps more appropriately the question to them should be "Do you CARE that".
Methinks that their honest answer to that question (if it were to be forthcoming) would be in the negative!
Bernard Dulcet
Aug 1st 2011, 19:06
Of course he does not know!!!!!! I bet you he never took a bus in his entire life since have resources.
Claire Busuttil
Jul 29th 2011, 20:49
X2 the link to the south of Malta with Mater Dei, is just a mess.
Buses are taking more than 90minutes to pass from Paola.
This should be the best route, with the minimal possible of problems to people
Arriva take action on this one
E. Formosa
Jul 29th 2011, 19:57
My parents are from Gozo and I live in Malta - had to go yesterday for a 1 hour errand in Gozo. Left car at Cirkewwa decided to try the new bus service.
Much to my surprise the bus service is totally not synchronised with the ferry arrival and departures! Ferry arrived at 6.30pm and there was no bus yet. After about 10 mins it appeared and only left at 6.50pm Arrived late for the appointment I had at 7pm ...
I used to think that bus commuters were blowing things out of proportion but I totally understand them now and feel sorry for them. My suggestion is: if possible try car sharing, in my case the cost of going to and from work (excluding wear and tear and accident risk) with another person is substantially less than the cost of 2 day bus tickets and I can literally sleep one hour more in the morning that if using the bus service !
guido cutajar
Jul 29th 2011, 18:01
Service from Rabat ( malta ) to Valletta and back...excellent ...........Concentrate on other routes........
Mr Manuel Mangani
Jul 29th 2011, 23:31
Not quite, in my experience. There are good days and bad days.Sometimes buses pass with frequent regularity; after 10.00am waiting times are often intolerably long. The day before yesterday I spent hour in the late morning at Bombi waiting for a Rabat bus. Last Friday (22nd July) in the evening I wasted another hour trying to get to Floriana from the upper part of Hamrun - a route serviced almost exclusively by the Rabat buses.
James Camilleri
Jul 30th 2011, 23:54
Don't agree. For those who live along Notabile Road (Attard/Balzan), Mriehel, Fleur de Lys and Sta. Venera and Hamrun it is sometimes impossible to baord these buses and they are the only ones which we can make use of. Service still hopeless.
Mark Galea
Jul 29th 2011, 11:25
Yesterday
took me from 2 3/4 hours to arrive to Cirkewwa !
Please give us the old bus service back! It took us around 1 hour - 1 1/4 hour to arrive to Cirkewwa. It was not the best of services, but waiting on bus stops was always less than 15 minutes (for me) and we always arrived in good time. Now it is HOPELESS.
Can these routes to Cirkewwa be given to another contractor ?
Robert L. Mifsud
Jul 29th 2011, 11:00
The ticketing system being used is rather antiquated and wastes a lot of time when a large number of passengers are boarding. A swipe card with a top up system via internet or mobile or machine at major bus stops should be used. There should be one standard charge. When you board the bus you swipe your card and keep moving to your seat. Non Maltese ID holders could have a different swipe card which deducts the higher charge when used.
Peter Spiteri
Jul 29th 2011, 12:41
I agree completely
Mrs Janet Bayes
Jul 29th 2011, 13:22
So Robert - - - can you please explain why we need yet another blessed card to carry around? Why are you talking about one standard charge and then higher charges for non maltese ID. Why do the Maltese people think they are entitled to travel for less money than others? Maybe the Maltese want to pay more to travel on other modes of transport in other countries when they go on holiday?
As for the ticket system - - its used the world over, and is only major problem here because of the 2 tier ticket charge system.
If the Maltese people cannot afford the bus fare, they should walk or buy a bike, or use one of their many garaged cars.
If this system of 2 tier fares was used for something like air travel there would be anarchy. Imagine Easy Jet or Ryan Air charging double to the Maltese to travel on the plane?
John Sant
Jul 29th 2011, 17:11
such a system already exists. check your info before you comment
Wilfred Camilleri
Jul 29th 2011, 20:57
The two-tiered ticketing system, one for ID holders and another for non-ID holders is stupid, discriminatory, and bogus! Whoever came up with the idea should be made to stand at a ticketing machine every day, winter and summer, and explain to tourists and non-residents who come to Malta to spend their hard-earned money why it is they have to pay extra. And it doesn't matter if the service is subsidized. When I visit another country with subsidized public transit I'm never asked for an ID card!
Mr Rene Brincat
Jul 30th 2011, 15:38
To all those who are against the two tier system.
No one is paying extra. The goverment is just paying the difference obo Residents of Malta (of any Nationality they may happen to be) through the annual subsidy that was agreed with Arriva.
What's wrong with the government giving something back to the taxpayer? Here the intention is to get more residents on buses so reducing pollution and traffic congestion.
And to all tourists and visitors, who are always very welcome to visit us. Its still reasonably cheap to travel in Malta, in brand new, airconditioned buses and having a comprehensive route network. As an example, the service to / from the airport is now much more frequent and covers all the tourists hot spots.
Just compare to what you have at home.
J Gustafsson
Jul 30th 2011, 18:34
Mr Brincat (and others in favor of a two tier system),
I think all of us visiting Malta often are comparing the system to what we have at home.
What we for sure do not have, is a system where tourists are charged twice the amount compared to local residents. This looks really bad, and understandably raises questions from passengers that the Arriva & Transport Malta staff have to answer. It creates a feeling of being fooled and it is not a good idea to give that feeling to tourists. Yes, the rate is not too high, but this is not the point at all.
And for those who don't seem to know, ALL public transport EVERYWHERE is subsidised by taxpayers in some way. This is not something out of the ordinary and in no way an excuse to charge tourists more. Is a rental car on the streets better than a car owned by a maltese? Is the purpose not to reduce traffic?
Mrs Janet Bayes
Jul 29th 2011, 10:51
I never read any complaints about the old service of course.
Can any one tell me how you can rectify this situation?
1)The maltese speaking drivers that didnt show for work need replacing.
2)Someone in Transport Malta needs to admit they were wrong in the writing of the routes and timetables
3)The system needed to be introduced slowly and gradually
4) The bus users (all of them) want to see a better service, and everyione looks at the effect on themselves.
So find 180 Maltese speaking persons to train as a bus driver ( only those that want the job need apply), reduce the new routes back to the old ones, plan to introduce new routes slowly and more effectively, think outside your own selfish little box, and realise that EVERYONE wants to travel around the islands. Implement all this OVERNIGHT - - - then no one will need to be complaining any more will they?
It is possible to please some of the people some of the time, but NEVER all of the people all of the time.
James Dewar
Jul 29th 2011, 13:54
Janet, It's Malta, not Utopia!! If Only !
Anthony Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 14:35
@ Mrs Janet Bayes
Pity you are not in PR – Arriva could do with your services
1. Quote: I never read any complaints about the old service of course.
(Shall I send you newspapers clippings about complaints over the years regarding the ATP Bus System).
You must have taken up residence here on the 3rd July or after.
2. Quote: Can anyone tell me how you can rectify this situation?
(We are commuters not route planners – but we have been giving our various feedback through this media since day one of operations.
3. Quote: Implement all this OVERNIGHT - - - then no one will need to be complaining any more will they?
Really? You seem the only one on the whole Island not complaining. Take a trip to Qawra and hear the tourists complaining (and some of them swearing too – who can blame them?)
Arriva have managed to scuttle their holiday with this “state of the art” new system.
Arriva UK should have known better given their experience and expertise in the field.
Arriva UK should have never accepted the former bus drivers given their reputation (have you never heard about that too?)
Arriva UK should have made contingencies for such matters before they rushed to tender their services.
Mrs Janet Bayes
Jul 29th 2011, 20:42
@ Anthony Borg - - - - I would know your nationality despite your name my dear. You have a Maltese sense of humour and you are unable to read sarcasm.
Anthony Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 20:46
@Mrs.Janet Bayes
So it's not the Maltese alone who are complaining (or "moaning" according to you)
This comment was taken from:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110729/letters/Hoping-that-Arriva-is-listening-and-taking-notes-2-.377791
Krisztina Madarász
Today, 10:38
Is your comment serious? Have you heard about that Arriva should provide a service for people that is called TRANSPORTATION ?? If Arriva would work properly people would not complain at all...If people takes a bottle of water still they have to wait for the bus (as I have to wait one hour at least every day).
Krisztina Madarasz
Anthony Borg
Jul 30th 2011, 08:19
@ Janet Bayes
Oh I can detect sarcasm “qalbi” – your “ofcourse” is very coarse, to say the least! But at least I can read English – not perfectly I must admit, but enough to detect your coarse sarcasm.
Sorry to disappoint you “qalbi” – but I am Maltese to the core.
You have been accusing the Maltese as being “moaners” – well you take the trophy “qalbi” because you seem to have an excuse for every Arriva flop.
I do not have a chip on Arriva: it’s just that they DID NOT deliver, despite the many promises and excuses.
I have no way of verifying this, but the amount of criticism that this foreign company drew for its mess must by far surpasses the complaints we had of the former ATP – at least they arrived on time. That’s the whole point - arriving on time, period.
Mario Desira
Jul 29th 2011, 09:54
Regretfully after four weeks the Arriva bus services seems to be deteriorating at least in some of the routes.
Again, bus 72 Qrendi to Valletta direct departue at 0701 hours never showed up. Passengers took bus 117 to the airport where we spent some 15 minutes waiting for a bus and were lucky we got on bus 71 to Valletta as it was full up.
This is a classic example of why the circular routes are creating havoc and massive delays and long queues. Had the 117 bus and driver (as an example ) been deployed to operate route 72 people would have arrived on time at work and the actual timetable adhered to, but for some reason this elementary principle is continuously ignored by the operator.
It will been even worse in September when large traffic jams manifest due to schools reopening.
A lady who works at Mgarr was heard explaining it is taking over FOUR HOURS to get from Qrendi to Mgarr. If 8 hours a day spent travelling from A to B in tiny Malta is not a sign of gross mismanagement of the system I do not know what is!
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 29th 2011, 09:37
If the bendy bus photgraphed outside MIA in this article has the correct UK number plates it was first regestered for road use between 1st September 2005 and end of Feb 2006.
Will leave the math to you guys !!
Arriva, bus index number BX55 FWG any comment?
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 29th 2011, 13:19
No need for Arriva to answer that; your comment is no news. They and TM have been saying since day 1 that while 170 buses are brand new, about 80 will be second-hand / refurbished buses, either from the old network or from the UK. The oldest buses - according to Arriva themselves - are about 6 years old, which would make the bus you mentioned adequate. All second-hand buses would be upgraded to contractual specifications if necessary. I think I actually rode on this very bus (or a very similar mercedes one), and they are in very good condition.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 29th 2011, 15:27
@ Clyde. Thank You just filled in the gaps, IE the London Boris busses which were a failure when new.
Respects
Michael Magri
Jul 29th 2011, 09:02
Only one thing is for sure with this ARRIVA bus, so called, service.(!!)...
After all that fancy talk about how wonderful our `new` bus service is going to be by none other than the Hon. Austin Gatt himself and his right hand man Mr. Delia, i think that these two gentlemen should first of all Apologise to the DISGRUNTLED Tax Payer of these Islands for this impecable MESS, and then RESIGN and go for a long holiday, untill someone else will put us back in order...!!
But Then.. Oh yes.. I Know Guys... I guess i`m pretending to much, as Nobody, politicaly or otherwise, in the GonziPN Regime is held accountable for ANYTHING on these SAINTLY ISLANDS of ours`...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
M. Mifsud
Jul 29th 2011, 07:29
I wish to comment in connection with three points.
1) The bus routes. The bus routes are too long and the service is too chaotic. There need to be a re-examination of the whole system in place. Ideally the older bus-route system is to be put back in place. All the direct links between all the villages and towns all over Malta and Valletta should be restored. The number 75 bus route to Mater Dei should be re-introduced. Just imagine new comfortable buses, new drivers, new customer care attitude operating on the older bus route system. It would be fantastic.
2) The fares. I think that imposing a Euro1.50 fare for a whole day is not fair. I think that a reasonable price per journey should be re-introduced. There are several commuters who does not need to take the bus each and every morning to work because they would find a lift with someone but they would need to take the bus back home in the evening. I am not saying that the price should revert to be 0.47cents or 0.49 cents as it used to be before. But I am saying let's find a compromise and introduce a reasonable fare of let's say 0.70cents/0.75cents per person per journey .
3) My third point is about the park and ride in Floriana which has been created and buildt by the government with taxpayers money and now it has been passed on to Arriva a private company which has now decided to charge those who use this facility. |I believe that this is not etichally and morally correct. I believe also that this is a blatant act of state aid to a private company. A facility that has been constructed by means of taxpayers' money should not be given/passed into the hands of a private company for free. And to boot all this the same private company is permitted to charge money for the public to be allowed to use this same facility.
Carmel Cilia
Jul 29th 2011, 17:34
Dan mhux forma ta sussidju, qed nirreferi ghal park and ride. B'min irid jithaq Gatt. Haga ohra hu fatt li il-gvern ghamel min kollox biex joqtol lit-trasport li kelna. Bhal ma ghamel dejjem l-ewwel ipingi f'dawl ikrah mal poplu xi haga li jrid joqtol u jghati lil-privat imbad igib skuza u jrid il-grazzi talli jkun irmija(jekk ma jkunx hemm min baxx baxx dahhal xi commission) u ghaddija lil barranin.
Veru kaz ta pajjis mormi u mirfus mis saqajn.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 29th 2011, 06:36
Arriva four weeks plus and still in a mess.
Adrian Pavia
Jul 29th 2011, 09:19
Tezagerax! mess li kien hem qabel! m'humiex eccezzjonali imma mhux mess!!
Marco Farrugia
Jul 29th 2011, 13:42
agreed with Mr Fenech....
Mr Pavia - you living in Mars?
James Camilleri
Jul 31st 2011, 00:00
No probably Mr Pavia just came back from Timbuctoo.
James Camilleri
Jul 29th 2011, 00:09
Why is the 125 bus from Mater Dei to Mile End not stopping at the old 71 bus terminus at B'Kara (as it should)? I was at the terminus waiting for this bus together with a sizable number of people at 5:45pm. A 125 bus arrived around 10 minutes later but instead of stopping and turning into the terminus it continued going. I continued to wait and in fact another 125 bus came around 6:45/50. However it too did not turn into the terminus and continued going straight in the direction of Fleur de Lys. Both buses were not full. The 125 bus which came from the oppisite direction, that is from Mile End to Mater Dei stopped at the terminus. I had no option but to walk up to Mriehel to catch one of the rabat buses from there. I arrived at my destination, Hamrun at around 7:20 that is more than 1 hour 30 minutes after I had left home.
Tonio Galea
Jul 28th 2011, 19:12
I used a bus this after noon it was route 11 from Sliema, I might've been lucky but as soon as I went on the bus stop the bus arrived.... and there was another one coming it was a bit far though... the bus (which was an articulated one) was extremely comfortable and my feet fit in the space between seats at last!!! I adored the ac as well and the driver (british) was kind and well educated as well. What needs to change for the bus service to be more efficient is the routes and besides that PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP PARKING IN/NEAR THE BUS STOPS else there'll be traffic :/ also the busses needs a wash from the outside but the inside was incredibly clean!
Carmel Cilia
Jul 29th 2011, 06:30
If you were a Mellieha resident you would'nt have been so happy. After leaving Mellieha the 11 bus goes through St. Pauls Bay then to the Bugibba terminus then it takes you round Qawra on to the coast road visiting Pembroke Swieqi Paceville St Julian Sliema Gzira Msida and on to Valletta. By the time you arrive there one would have lost all the prospect of going on for a hard days work.
I expect Mr. Delia would be given a generous Bonus this year: He deserves it he has become DeliaP.N.
Richard Pace
Jul 28th 2011, 18:42
Isn't it time that Emanuel Desira read through all 936 comments and sorted out public transport system and answered the comments one by one. He gets about 15% statuatory overtime for this work.
A Cordina
Jul 29th 2011, 07:37
I believe you meant Delia! ...even his name we are forgetting!
Richard Pace
Jul 30th 2011, 10:58
Ops yes I meant Emanuel Delia, standing for the election without any hope of getting any commuter votes!
Mrs M. Attard
Jul 28th 2011, 15:28
Some more training is needed for the new Drivers please, yesterday a Bus turning in Hamrun about 8pm nearly took cars in the road who gave way for it to turn, only the quick thinking of the lead driver who reversed and made the others move back prevented the bus from hitting the cars as it turned into the High street from near the Jojos shop, the driver made the turn too close and should have given more way to turn the bus.
Ray Mangan
Jul 28th 2011, 13:44
Grumble Grumble Grumble - That is all I hear about the Arriva bus service. Personally I have been impressed with the service offered by Arriva thus far. In the swealtering heat the other day I took a very comfortable air conditioned jounrney which put me in a fantastic mood for my trip to the ferries. Maybe its the thick black smoke that has polluted the air for so long that people miss, or perhaps the bumpy uncomfortable journeys.
I salute Arriva for their efficent Airport routes. Customer service and professionalism are two things that were lacking and now seem to be here in abundence. Its time for Malta to step up with the times and move forward from the days of lingering years behind the rest of Europe.
This really is a jewel of an island with so much to offer in every way, lets welcome people to it with the best services that we can possibly offer.
Ray Mangan
James Dewar
Jul 28th 2011, 14:19
Eh ?
John Mifsud
Jul 28th 2011, 18:25
am i reading well???? John Mifsud
Carmel Cilia
Jul 28th 2011, 18:44
You must have been living of late in a third world country if you are just happy with an air conditioner. Going to work in the morning now means getting up one and a half hours earlier because you never know the time the bus would deliver. Going to work today means having to face your employer every morning and trying to justify yourself for being late. Ah I shudder to think what would have been the outcome if there was the opposition in government. Castilja would have been like a slave market with thousands chained to the iron railings there. How time change.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 28th 2011, 19:26
Ray stick to Class A.
Anthony Borg
Jul 28th 2011, 21:22
@ Ray Mangan "Grumble Grumble Grumble - That is all I hear about the Arriva bus service".
931 comments (minus 1) should tell you something Mr. Mangan.
By the way, are you in Malta? Just wondering - perhaps you missed the bus and meant some other country..
Anthony Borg
Jul 28th 2011, 13:24
Mr. Thomas Dimech
Commercial Manager at Arriva Malta Ltd.
Sir,
Despite that 4 weeks have now elapsed since the launching of the new Arriva Public Transport System,
I am still wasting 45 to 55 minutes waiting time at bus-stops for Route 106 coming from Mater Dei
towards Lija / Balzan/ Attard.
Whilst waiting for this route 106 bus at Lija “WIJI” bus-stop this morning, no less than five route 31 buses passed by (between 10:00 and 11:000). Whilst I understand that this route is extensively used by tourist, you cannot treat local commuters so poorly!
According to your printed time-time-table, 106 has a frequency of departure every 15 minutes. A far cry from what I have been enduring at bus-stops. I cannot keep a single appointment on time, whilst cancelling many others.
Arriva, no more excuses, no more apologies - if you cannot deliver after one month, please pack up and go.
Regards
Anthony Borg
hugh jars
Jul 28th 2011, 22:36
dont think so.dont want those crap heaps back with the silver backs trying to drive them!!!!!!
Anthony Borg
Jul 29th 2011, 15:03
Neither do I Mr. Jars - but we have no option - at least those "crap heaps" arrived on time, year in year out.
A Caruana
Jul 28th 2011, 13:04
Update - yesterday, my neice tried waiting for Bus no 135 from near Cerviola Hotel she was there at 8.50, the bus which should be passing every half hour on the hour and at half past never arrived, so she ended up walking in the dark on her own to the terminus to get Bus 91 on the way a young man in a car stopped to pester her offering her a lift which she ignored , this is a situation which cannot go on! If something bad happens to any Marsascala youngsters there will be hell to pay Mr Austin gatt and you will be amongst the first to get it from angry fathers.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 28th 2011, 13:42
That's if you could find Gatt ?????????
Mark Galea
Jul 28th 2011, 12:29
Yesterday for the first time the X1 arrived on time and made the trip on time.
IT WAS ON TIME BECAUSE IT WAS A SUBCONTRACTED ZARB COACHES BUS, NOT THE ARRIVA BUS.
PLEASE, GIVE US THE SUBCONTRACTED BUSSES ... THEY ARE ON TIME AND THEY MAKE THE TRIP IN TIME. THE REST OF THE ARRIVA BUSSES CAN BE USED ELSEWHERE ON SHORT ROUTES, BUT NOT ON SUCH LONG ROUTES.
Bob Groucott
Jul 28th 2011, 12:20
What I admire about Arriva is their cold ruthless inefficiency (sic).
Example: I waited 50 minutes this morning in Mellieha for a bus going towards Ghadira, and then gave up and decided to walk. Two minutes later FOUR buses passed me, one after the other in the space of 3 minutes, three of them virtually empty.
They couldn't organise a bun fight in a bakery.....
Marthese Cilia
Jul 28th 2011, 09:34
I think that they should leave the bus routes as they were and introduce village routes as required .Hope that things will change maybe I will start using them.
Mario Desira
Jul 28th 2011, 09:22
Jul 27
No Qrendi bus from Valetta departed at 1450 hours. The next one that showed up was around 1520. Almost one hour waiting!
Meanwhile again I noticed the Cirkewwa bus departing full up from Valletta. How realistic is the chance of people on bus stops from Valletta to Cirkewwa boarding such a bus.
JUL 28
At Qrendi Terminus bus 72 came 16 minutes late at 0717. Seems Arriva has not yet learned to factor in an average of 15 mins traffic jams delay per journey in the early morning rush to work.
To add insult to injury, after arriving late, the driver got of the bus for 3 minutes to smoke a cigarette, pretending to check some papers and inspect the bus at the same time. I would have said nothing if we were on time but 17 minutes late is not the time for a ciggy break! The bus (Bus 70) departed 0722 from Qrendi with passengers arriving late for work as usual.
By law Departure from Qrendi is 0701 as per Arriva timetable. Actual departure times are as follows:
22 JUL departure 0728 – late 27 mins
25 JUL departure 0707 – late 06 mins
26 JUL departure 0701 – departure on time
27 JUL departure 0709 – late 08 mins
28 JUL departure 0717 – late 16 mins
Compare - with old regime buses a bus left on time every 15 mins in the morning!
No further comments, as the above facts speak for themselves.
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 28th 2011, 12:43
These genuine drivers are stressed to the hilt. Hardly think a 3 min ciggy break gonna make any difference.
I would have joined him.
Carmel Cilia
Jul 28th 2011, 08:32
I was after an arriva bus yesterday going up hill at Selmun. I could'nt believe my eyes but sure enough I could see exhaust coming out of the silencer. It was not heavy fumes but still it was there and this in their
third week. What would be the result after one or two years one might imagine.
Mr Charles Grima
Jul 28th 2011, 07:34
All these comments have brought home to me the clear and painful truth....buses are NEVER going to change the comfort, precision, and timeliness of one's own car or bicycle.
And with Arriva taking such a large leap into the uknown (for them), it was clear to see that things could never go right.
How can less buses serve more people? It simply does not equate.
Leaving routes as they were, with different drivers (absolutely imperative!) and buses was the right answer... and THEN introduce inter-village routes as required.
Eventually, less buses on the road is a bonus for me... pity the commuters though.
Get on your bikes lads!
Antonio Anastasi
Jul 28th 2011, 01:38
Mr. Emanuel Delia.
Please note that times indicated times are approximate, however, the waiting times are quite accurate as I have taken to using my stopwatch while waing for buses to appear or not.
Yesterday, the 26th of July, I left St.Paul's bay at around 1700hrs.
Not wanting to wait for the 41 which would take me to Mosta for my connecting bus Nos.23 to Mgarr, and wait again there,for God knows how long, I decided to take the 31 which would take me on the longer route via Sliema. I decided that I would wait less at the Valletta terminal than on the Mosta Rotunda stage.
In Valletta I waited there for close to three hours, with another 6 passengers, one of which was a tourist residing at Golden Bay, who had already been waiting one and a half hours when I got there.
We asked for information from the personell on site who informed us on various occassions that it would be there in 10 mins.
During our wait the 21 bus to Mosta, was departing every 30mins or so.
We were aslo advised by ARRIVA personnel that there was only 1 (ONE) bus operating on 23 Valletta Golden Bay route.
At around 2030Hrs I called Cuostomer care asking for information but they could not tell me. I asked if she could call control and get an idea of the bus's ETA and call me back as had been done on other occassions only to be told that they had been advised NOT to call control anymore for information.
Sometime during our wait we saw TWO 23 arriving at Valletta terminal only to disappear to the ARRIVA personnel's surprise and our frustration.
Laudibly your man on the ground checked what the problem was to be informed that one of the buses was changing driver.....he was as embarresed as we were pissed off when neither bus made an appearance for the rest of the night.
At around 2100Hrs, one of the Arriva guys called 'control' and advised them that the tourist had to get to the hotel in order to pack and catch her plane at mid-night.
At around 2130Hrs a 23 came to offer a direct trip to Golden Bay, however the tourist had already made her own way, 4 of the other passangers had done likewise, which left me and another passenger.
The other passanger decided to forget all about meeting hewr friends at Golden Bay, which left ONLY me.
Seeing that, the bus driver called somebody on the phone advising them that there was only one passenger.
I was told sorry but I had to get off the bus as the trip was not going to be made for JUST one person.
Eventually the 23 Bus arrived at around 2150Hrs.
The bus had a bad smell to it, and was dirty to boot, way below the standards of the service.
I eventually walked through the door of my home in Mgarr at around 2300Hrs, 6 (SIX) hours after departing from St.Paul's Bay.
I have often defended ARRIVA and have been one of their appologists, but while I can understand that the company may not be responsible for some of its convoluted and time consuming routes, but they are responsible to ensure that the routes are well provided for.
To put the cherry on the cake; frustration, anger, tierdness and hunger caused me to loose my camera on the bus, which I have duly reported to customer care and did the police report. I hope that some honest soul hands this in.
On a final note. The shortest time it has ever taken me to get from St.Paul's bay to home in Mgarr, was three hours, one hour thirty mins longer than when we had the older and unrelaible system. On average it takes me around three to four hours, using the 41 and 23 compination.
Andreea Prodan
Jul 27th 2011, 23:29
Arriva are quite good as long as they sort the different price scheme. IT IS NOT FAIR for tourists to pay double!! When you go abroad you pay the same the citizens pay!!! This is ridiculous and it is discriminating and people dont know what to do to rip money off others!!!! This is not good advert for malta people as i heard sooo many tourist complain it is too expensive!!! Think about it.
Mr G Mangion
Jul 27th 2011, 19:47
WE Need the old ruotes, No sightseeing, more busses, and a hop ON Fare !!
but in Malta it seems that in Maltese IL - PIKI JAQTAW LAPTITI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:)
Michel Camilleri
Jul 27th 2011, 17:55
We all know that Arriva had to learn the ropes
But for a better service they have dashed all our hopes
We all know and understand that time is money
If I plan a trip for Christmas I should not arrive with the Easter bunny
It is all well and good to have manners, A/c and drivers with a tie
But waiting for hours in the scorching sun is not worth the try
With all the fanfare and buses named King Long
Definitely something has gone terribly “WONG”
If the A/c after only one week has already broke
You begin to wonder if this is some kind of joke
It is true we got rid of tattoos, swearing, vests and statues of saints
But we have been inundated with thousands of complaints
So please heed what we are trying to say
We need a reliable service for every single day
We should never resort to the service we had
But compared to the previous one…this is just as bad
Anthony Borg
Jul 27th 2011, 16:33
Dear fellow commentators - how was the Arriva service today?
Any better?
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I did not venture out today! Yesterday, I spent a toal of 1hr.55 minutes waiting time at 3 bus stops.
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Mr Dave Smith
Jul 27th 2011, 18:41
Anthony, never actually boarded a bus today. We frequently used the previous service to Sliema.
The infrequent buses observed today were filthy, exhibited extensive panal damage, overcrowded, not stopping and had passangers still standing clutching handrails beside the driver.
Any more questions ? LOL
Anthony Borg
Jul 27th 2011, 21:58
No, not really Dave, I think you put me off for a whole week!
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For any Arriva official reading these comments:
"Why are the new, glossy Arriva buses so dirty? Are you shooting yourselves in the foot?"
"Don't you have staff to hose down the buses as they come in to roost for the night?"
For goodness sake, this can't be the fault of the defaulting drivers too! (Although I will not be surprised if they are coming in under the stealth of darkness and dirtying your buses :-)
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John Mifsud
Jul 27th 2011, 22:07
still a long way to go! Bus no 91 still arrives full up at Fgura! Are we asking too much to have a bus leaving Zabbar at 5 30am like in the past?? I'm sure that most workers are arriving late for work! How long our bosses are gonna tolerate this? Wake up Transport Malta! Dont you think that 4 weeks are too long to realise that Fgura residents are going tru hell to board a bus in the morning? ACTION PLEASE< AND QUICK! John Mifsud
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 28th 2011, 16:13
Oh Anthony, forgot to menion that the rear index number plate had fallen off one a well!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark Galea
Jul 27th 2011, 15:04
Fil-bidu kien hemm is-servizz tal-busses, li ghakemm ma kienx l-ahjar possible, kien iwasslek kullimkien, FIL-HIN.
Issa avanzajna u sirna aktar efficjenti - sighat mohlijiet fuq l-istages, jekk tkun xortik, titla bil-wieqfa, u wara Sight Seeing trip, f'xi hin tasal fid-destinazzjoni tieghek ... Allahares ma jkunux dawn id-day tickets, ghax 2 hour ticket mhux dejjem iservik.
Jeremy cassar
Jul 27th 2011, 13:24
Firstly the buses are too big for our roads and increasing traffic problem.
Secondly, we should have small electric buses, like many towns in Italy have. That would help reduce the polution problem we have at the moment.
Thirdly, I miss the older Maltese buses. I believe that some should have been kept, the old ones especially. They should have been kept on the road for touristic purposes. They could have been restored, with airconditioning and new engines. By removing them we took away old of malta's key touristic assests.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 27th 2011, 18:04
Clearly Mr. Cassar, you don't use the bus very often.
When we had the old buses, we used to complain that they were too small, that they had aisles that were too narrow, and that they had very little leg space.
The old buses were too old to restore or equip with anything, let alone air conditioning. The only thing they had "air-conditioning ready", were the windows, many of which you wouldn't manage to open with a crowbar.
We also used to complain when they would pass full and not stop on stages, or when the bus would not come at all. Only then, it was taken for granted, and no one would write on the paper about it.
We may have lost a cultural icon, but regular bus users like me are certainly not missing the old buses. Neither am I missing the old routes, for that matter, even though many people seem to disagree on that one, and they have every right to do so of course. What I want now is a more regular and frequent service. It's better than the first week, but we're not quite there yet. Looks like it's going to have to take a few months...
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 27th 2011, 10:59
Tant l-Arriva m'ghandhomx idea kif ser imexxu il-busses li qieghdin jistriehu fuq il -comments forsi jaqbdu art. U Mr. 38% li dejjem sejjer u ma jitlaq qatt sieket.
Mr M Farrugia
Jul 27th 2011, 11:44
Minbarra il-kummenti dwqar il-vjaggia kif gew imfassal ghal Arriva, li hafna minnhom mhux vijabbli u hemm bzonn li isir tibdil fuqhom hemm problema kardinali u kbira hafna li kulhadd qed jaghmel bhax-xadina u jghatti ghajnejh dwara. Qed nirreferi ghad-disastru li hawn fit-toroq taghna li jikkaguna id-dewmin. Ezempji. Tal-Gas jiqaf f'nofs triq u kulhadd jistenna, L_istass jaghmel l-iscammell taz-zibel. Hemm dawk ity-truckijiet li ikollhom il-merkanzija jew hadt ta prodotti. dawn jahsbu li jistaw jiqfu fin-nofs, jaghmlu double parking ghax qed ihottu. Hemm kranijiet li jahdmu fuq progetti minghajr wardens, hemm dawk li fil-qilla tat-trasport ikunu jizbaw il-linji f'art, jew jaqtaw is-sigar, dawk li jipparkjaw fuq bus lanes, u mitt oggett iehor. dawn jikkaguynaw tewmin esagerat fit-toroq bil-karozzi tal-linja jistennew fil-quees twal. Jekk il-gvern mhux se jipprova jsolvi din il-problema tal-linja se jibqa ikollhom il-problema mod specjali fil-hin. Tajjeb li isiru il-bus lanes fit-toroq arterjali imma il-problema hija fit-toroq principlai tal-blioet taghna bhal Hamrun,. Birkirkara, san Pawl Tas-Sliema u mitt post iehor. Il-wardens lejn dawn iridu jibdew iharsu u jagfhtu it-tickets u mhux lejn karozzi privati biss li sidhom ma ikunx hemm. Hemm bzonn aktar serjeta mill-Wardens fejn jidhol il-heavy transport. Jekk ma jkunx hemm management tajjeb tat-toroq taghna ma jistax ikollna servizz tajjeb u nigu l-istess kif konna bid-differentza li hawn karozzi moderni.
D Galea
Jul 27th 2011, 08:47
Qabel ma dahhlet l-Arriva, r-residenti tal-Fgura kienu jistghu jirkbu 6 karrozzi tal linja meta issa spiccajna b wahda biss. U liema wahda ?? Ta' Mskala intant - mimlija u ppakkjata turisti specjalment issa fis-Sajf. Ahna ghal aghar morna ghax filghodu hlief tal-linja ippakkjati mhux qed jghaddu mill Fgura. U jekk nirkbu bil-wieqfa sal belt. Ahna inhallsu bhal haddiehor. Dejjem tas-south jibilghu l-kannent. Qed nispicca nibda nohrog aktar qabel biex nasal fil-hin ix xoghol, issa hekk sew ? Soluzzjoni: jaghmlu rotta mill-belt ghal mskala kif kienet qabel u jaghmluhom aktar frekwenti specjalment fil-hinijiet tax-xoghol;
Dwar is-saver card: Ghax ma titnehhiex it time-window ? Mhux sew titlef il flus meta tkun leave u sick apparti li fil-weekend jien ma nahdimx.
Nispera li xi tip ta' azzjoni tittiehed mill-aktar fis possibbli.
John Mifsud
Jul 27th 2011, 13:57
il veru andek ragun siehbi! Vera weghda trid tamel biex tirkeb mil Fgura! Meta bus no 91 tasal Haz-Zabbar tintela kollha u povri ahna in-nies tal Fgura! Possibbli mandomx bus ohra li tista titlaq mill mina ta Hompesch halli tghabbi lil dawk kollha fuq l-istages?? Fejnhi Transport Malta? Ul Kunsill tal Fgura possibbli ma jafx xinhu jigri?? Mela kulhadd 'ala l-mouse' f'dan il-pajjiz?? John Mifsud
A Saliba
Jul 30th 2011, 12:39
Sewwa qed tghid. Ahna ta' Haz-Zabbar kellna erba' karozzi 17, 18,19,21 u ohra 20 tghaddi mill bypass ta' m'scala. Issa sfortunatament wahda biss in-91 ta' M'scala u hemm stage Haz-Zabbar fi triq il-kunvent li din taddi minn hemm imma ma twaqqafx . Tghidx x'mixja ikollna nimxu fix-xemx jekk niefqu fl-istage ta' qablu jew ta warajh. Dawn qeghdin il-boghod minn xulxin.
Dwar is-Saver Card naqbel mija fil-mija mieghek. It-time window qeghda hemm ghal gwadann biex idahhlu aktar flus u mhux biex jiffrankaw il-passiggieri. Din dahka fil-wicc.
Jien tqallajt nirraporta dwar l-istage li nehhew minn Lawrenz Bus Stop Zabbar fejn in-91 ma tieqafx. Xbajt ukoll ninqela nistenna u nimxi fix-xemx. Jien qed inhoss li l-ilmenti tan-nies qeghdin jaqaw fuq widnejn torox. Arriva u Transport Malta mid-dehra se jdumu jiddiskutu.!!
reno cini
Jul 26th 2011, 23:04
I am not that type of guy that moan much and has lots of patience but ther is a limit for everything .I am a residence from fgura and still after 3 weeks and now even after hearing the changes that are going to be made our (fgura ) route is still a mess how, ever can we have a service to go to valletta when only one bus passes from fgura departing from marsa scala ,this morning my daughter hade to go to valletta for german lessons as she is young I accompand her, her lesson starts at 9:00 so as I know the situation, because I use arriva for work to mater dei and its frustrating,anyway,we left home at 7:30 after our 7minute walk to bus stop PUNIKA we managed to get a bus at 8:50 packed like sardines praying that nothing happens on the road because it would be fatal(obviously arriving late) ,its not because no bus arrived actually 4 buses came but all full up obviously catering for such many people its frustrating to get on board from fgura. another thing is that I saw that bus number 121 and 124 are going to be amalgamated till now I don't know the actual route but I hope that fgura will remain in route,because for catering other people (which they have the right) we (fgura) are being sacrificed like the new route of bus 91 going to jerma and st thomas which is very right to do but of which zonqor is not mentioned all this is going to reflect on more time getting a bus from fgura,one bus catering for more then 50000 people and not on schedule is impossible, thank you for your time and understanding.
RENO CINI
Joseph Stephen Galea
Jul 26th 2011, 21:28
The Santa Margerita bus (now 103 ... previously 157) route saga.
I have been informed that today (26 July 2011) the bus on route 103 stopped operating at around 4pm due to lack of fuel from Arriva. Not believing the story I stopped on the Rotunda bus stop waiting for the bus at 5.45pm. I waited for the next bus according to the schedule (6.08pm) but it did not turn up. Then for the next (6.53pm) but it didnt turn up either! At 7.08pm I phoned Arriva ... I was told that the bus was operating on an hourly schedule. And when confronted that I had been at the bus stop for nearly and hour a half, she promised to send some memo to check. Two hours later ... at 8pm I left the bus stop. DISGRACE. Just to remind Dr Austin Gatt of his promise to the Santa Margerita residents (in a reply to a Parliamentary Question by the Onor Anthony Agius Decelis) that our service should improve. HA HA HA !!!! Who is responsible for stopping the service because of lack of fuel !!!!!!!!!
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 27th 2011, 15:57
Joseph. Resposible is NOT in Mr Bastow's vocabulary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 26th 2011, 19:58
Never, in the field of managerial incompetance, has so much, been due, to so many, by so few
Anthony Borg
Jul 26th 2011, 23:08
Yes, Dave, Mr.Churchill would have been proud of that quote.
And yet, the commuter is left stranded, day after day, week after week, with promises that it's going to get better...
Anthony Borg
Jul 26th 2011, 23:09
Yes, Dave, Mr.Churchill would have been proud of that quote.
And yet, the commuter is left stranded, day after day, week after week, with promises that it's going to get better...
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Mr Dave Smith
Jul 27th 2011, 15:34
Anthony, I just cannot understand it ! Am having to use taxis! Bastow must be a tottally protected species!
saviour attard
Jul 26th 2011, 16:33
Nistaqsi : il-karozza 54 li se tibda tahdem bejn Valletta u Attard se tikkaverja r-rotta li kienet tikkaverja l-karozza 40, li fi triqitha lejn Attard kienet tghaddi minn Hal Balzan? Jekk le hemm xi karozza ohra li se tibda tghaddi minn Hal Balzan fi triqitha lejn il-Belt u lura?
A Saliba
Jul 26th 2011, 15:32
Before Arriva came on the scene, The M'scala bus (now 91) coming from Valletta used to stop at the bus stop known today as Lawrenz in front of K Optics in Convent Street. Zabbar. Now, the bus misses this stop and keeps on going on its way to M'scala.
Whoever is responsible for this please bring back the 91 on bus stop Lawrenz. Many Commuters are complaining about this as the previous bus stop and the one after are miles apart. Why are these complaints falling on deaf ears? Even the Zabbar Local Council has forwarded this query. So why isn't anyone doing anything about it.? Funny thing is , we have a bus stop where to get on but we have'nt got one where to get off. What a disgrace!!!
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 27th 2011, 09:27
No surprises there A Saliba, in Triq is Salini in Marsascala, there are no less than 4 Bus stops including ones with the New glass topped shelters which are now no longer used by Arriva as they decided to remove the Bus 91 from the LARGEST residential area in the locality. So there are Bus stops where the bus never passes, incredible but true in this country! The other day tourists were waiting for the Bus on the one near the Jerma Hotel till someone told them the Bus to Valletta is no longer passing from that area, so they had to enjoy a 25 minute walk along the Salini Promenade to get to the Terminus near Grabiel. Truly progress. One wonders when the amendment to the 91 route as announced recently will actually start?
A Caruana
Jul 28th 2011, 00:53
Ms Abela,
I saw lots of Tourists also waiting near the Cerviola Hotel at the Grigal Bus stop just near the Happypaws charity shop, the English people at the shop told them they have to walk to the terminus to get to Valletta on bus no 91, they were complaining to anyone who was listening that they have been coming to Malta for the past 10 years and never had they these problems with the buses. It is worthy to note that these tourists were in their late sixties and certainly not relishing a long 20 minute walk in the sun to get to the terminus. when is no 91 going to start passing from Triq Il Qaliet? -When summer is over and the tourists have flown back home never to return to Malta.
Mr francis darmanin
Jul 26th 2011, 14:13
And I suggest the following route for Gzira, Sliema and St Julians commuters who want to avoid the congested Strand, Ferries, and Gha rid-dud promenade: Valletta, Floriana, Msida, Rue d'Argent, Savoy, Rudolph Street, Dingli Street Tower Road and on to Spinola Bay. A nice fast route. I am not a traffic consultant but I knew from 30 years driving experience that this is the shortest route to Sliema.
Alessandro Bruno
Jul 26th 2011, 09:21
This morning Birgu's Open Market was half empty: reaching Birgu has never been so difficult indeed.
Dear TM I suggest 2 new routes:
- 1 Marsaskala > Zabbar .> Cospicua > Gzira > Sliema (Bypassing the already well served and congested Paola and Valletta)
- 2 A "southern Malta" circular road: airport > Paola > Fgura > Cospicua > Zabbar > Marsaskala > Marsaxlokk > Birzebbuga > airport
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 26th 2011, 16:10
Very good ideas but forget it Alessandro. Maltese people will never interchange anywhere... its a cultural thing.
cettina portelli
Jul 26th 2011, 18:54
yes, i was at the birgu market this morning too... i live in bormla so i didnt have to travel to get there.....it was so sad it see it so empty! but with the disgraceful bus service the three cities have to put up with, do you blame people for not turning up?
Ms G Portelli
Jul 27th 2011, 16:05
@ Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Really what do you think commuters going to the South (eg. Marsa, Fgura, Zabbar, Three cities etc ) and those going to the North ( Sliema Srt. JUlians, Tal-Qroqq, Mellieha etc ) did at either Blata l-Bajda / Bombi for the last 4 decades respectively.? Gosh did you really think that interchanges are a Transport Authority/Arriva new fangled concept ??? Interchanges were already part of the culture.
Silvio Farrugia
Jul 26th 2011, 07:37
When is Austin Gatt going to resign after this fiasco ? Has he no shame to show his face outside ?
Clotilde Mifsud
Jul 26th 2011, 01:54
In Saturday's newspaper the latest Arriva update began: "Nearly 20 days after introducing its new service, Arriva yesterday announced 27 changes to its routes, adjusting them according to comments and complaints it had received."
How interesting, I thought...as I wondered just exactly where Arriva was 'receiving' these comments and complaints. I have trolled every page on their Maltese website http://www.arriva.com.mt looking for an email address or place where I could leave any written comments, suggestions, observations, travel histories of my episodes with Arriva - and I have found none! I have no wish to try the telephone and speak to anyone. I want to put my points across in writing, both for my records as well as Arriva's. Somehow, I don't quite trust phone calls, nor do I like being put on hold for long periods of time, nor do I like wasting lots of time listening to busy signals and having to redial. It's a shortcoming of mine. Patience is a virtue, and I know I was brought to Malta to learn patience in this lifetime. Some lessons are easier for me to learn than others.
So do I think there is a battery of secretaries combing through three English speaking newspapers every day plus checking the comments from readers to Arriva-related articles appearing online (some of which are very amusing, entertaining, and also, by the way, extremely accurate in their assessment of what should have been done in reorganizing our public transport system). No, I am not naive enough to think Arriva is researching these avenues of written venting and assessment. From where, then, are they receiving their comments?
On their "Talk to us" web page there is an email address for enquiries...but that's for those who cannot find the information they need on the Arriva website. That's not what I'm looking for! I'm looking for bus service which will get me from point A to point B in an equal or better time than we experienced previously under the old system, on a reliable, predictable, realistic time schedule.
There's another catch-all sentence on the "Talk to us" web page which says:
"Arriva Malta also provides useful customer information, including lost property and enquiry/ complaint procedures. We will shortly be introducing our 'ask the expert' page, where our experts at Arriva Malta will answer your questions." The word 'provides' is in the present tense. I must have missed something somewhere. Or maybe their website or at least this web page is as incomplete as their preparations for the actual implementation of the new and improved Malta bus service. Can't wait to see the upcoming 'ask the expert' page! Stay tuned...
Next I turned my attention to the article: "Arriva makes 27 route changes" (23 July 2011).
I am delighted to read: "Some routes are being removed, others being shortened and others being introduced afresh after having been removed."
Since it had previously taken me three hours to make a trip from Valletta to Manikata (with no problems encountered) on day six of Arriva's operations - a trip which previously would have taken me 45 minutes to Manikata centre, I was eager to see what improvements I'd find to their routing to Manikata (the little village which Arriva forgot...try finding it on any of the printed literature we received before or after the July 3rd launch). I counted 26 bullet 'changes' (not 27), but maybe someone will soon find the missing addition/removal/shortening and let us know.
Unfortunately, Manikata was nowhere to be found on the list, so I guess this means unless Arriva reads my comments in the newspaper, I and anyone else wishing to visit or leave Manikata by public transport, is doomed to endure a three hour (plus) trip, requiring one or two bus changes, and forced to wait at unfinished (read: barely begun) bus shelters in the blazing sun and heat, with no street light at all after dark. That puts it up to a six hour round trip to Manikata which really puts a dent in one's day.
Is this appropriate? Is this an improvement? I think not.
I hope Arriva is reading and listening...and taking notes!
Clotilde Mifsud
James Dewar
Jul 25th 2011, 22:06
Would it be too much to ask that someone (or corporate body even) shows some leadership and takes ownership of this ongoing disaster. Call me cynical (because I am) but I fear that the most recent deadline date of 11/09 will come and go and the chaos (perhaps a reduced level) will continue. This is surely a time for government to show strong leadership and hold those responsible for the fiasco to account.
A name that does not figure frequently in these postings but probably should is "Halcrow" who were apparently paid substantial fees to re-design the route network. Has anyone in authority asked them for an explanation and how they came to the conclusions that were so wrong and have resulted in chaos?
Comments in these columns are one thing and indeed important to reflect the public attitude and experiences but action is required at a high level and probing questions urgently need to be asked of those responsible.
It's buses we are on about here but there are two ships that are relevant and so far missing..............OWNERSHIP and LEADERSHIP.
j. catania
Jul 25th 2011, 21:44
just give them a chance to settle people !!!!!!
John Mifsud
Jul 26th 2011, 14:25
you must be joking!! They had 3 whoie weeks to settle down! If you happen to be welll served in your area(unless you go by car yourself), it doesnt mean that other localities are on working on RUBINI!! We residents of Fgura are being taken for a ride! We.re in the 4th week of Arriva service, and im stlll arriving late for work! Is this what Transport Malta wants for us passengers?? No, we cant wait till September to see an imrovement - we demand it NOW!! John Mifsud
cettina portelli
Jul 27th 2011, 18:45
and im STILL taking my son to and from work in the car from bormla whereas before he ALWAYS used the excellently timed direct bus route from the 3cities to valetta!!! plus. we have to leave home in the car by 0610 to try to avoid the mad rush hour at marsa because so many people are using their cars instead of the buses to get to work ON TIME!!!! more pollution, missed appointments, wages docked due to late arriving, threats of losing your job.....ARRIVA, SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT!!!
Claire Busuttil
Jul 25th 2011, 20:47
some bus drivers are keeping the AC, very very low......it is really not fair on elderly people.....weak persons, or kids....
There should be a standard tempreature, which is reasonable, and that do not put once health at risk.
Health Department and Arriva Please take note.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 25th 2011, 19:33
What I fancy is the disparity between the wages of the maltese drivers and british ones. I guess the british ones know malta better.
hugh jars
Jul 25th 2011, 23:56
NO, JUST MORE POLITE AND BETTER DRIVERS THANTHE MALTESE GORILLAS, GET IN THE REAL WORLD
Irene Forster
Jul 28th 2011, 15:25
To Mr. Jars,
This is quite a change of tune from your reply to my justified comment i.e. "stop complaining, you are not in UK now. If you dnt like it go the other way!!!!" Please read my reply (further down the line) to that.
If you are so keen to pass free comments,I suggest that you had better practice what you preach and maybe get on a plane back to the UK yourself if our drivers are such gorillas (i.e. if you are English after all).
Regards
Irene Forster
Maurice Cini
Jul 25th 2011, 19:02
Can Transport Malta please advice why Bus no3 passing from Kalkara has been removed from passing through St. Liberata Street Kalkara? This part of Kalkara was used by Many people old aged and alike. The area around close to this street is always developing with new buildings and was giving many a very good service. It also served many to visit the Capuchin Church.Can this old route be re-instated to give service to all. Thanks.
Janice Ancilleri
Jul 25th 2011, 23:25
Ma nahsibx ta'. It-triq dizastruza hemm u konna hadna r-ruh meta sirna nafu li permezz tal-Arriva t-toroq qed jitrangaw, imma kienet falza stikka ghal dik it-triq ghax mid-dehra ser tibqa' f'dak l-istat ghal dejjem! Kemm dik it-triq u kemm triq ohra f'St. Peters, li minnha kienet tghaddi t-21. It-tnejn dizastruzi u t-tnejn li huma m'hux qed jghaddu tal-linji minnhom .. u hafna nies inqatalhom is-servizz ta' tal-linja. Hafna anzjani jridu jimxu mixjiet twal issa biex jaqbdu tal-linja. Kemm minn hdejn il-knisja tal-kapuccini u kemm minn gewwa St. Peters, ghax lanqas tal-linja wahda mhi tghaddi minn hawn gew! Arukaza!
Mr John Dee
Jul 25th 2011, 17:38
It seems from reading these letters over the past few days that Transport Malta would not be capable of running a whelk stall !
Would it be too simple a solution to ask Arriva (acknowledged to be an international transport specialist) to sort out the recruitment / routes / schedules to give us a decent professional service?
Their own drivers must surely have reported back to their managers where the problem areas are.
cettina portelli
Jul 27th 2011, 18:57
some drivers are relying on the passengers to direct them through the routes coz they have no idea where to go!
and if transport malta ran a whelk stall, we would all be in for food poisoning!!!!
we had a brilliant bus service in the 3cities.... the lisla bus would go via fgura, easing congestion there and saving the people of the 3cites from taking 2buses, we had a direct route to marsascala and back, where we could stop off at zabbar and pick up a bus to xghajra from there, a bus to take us to mater dei, plus 4buses an hour departing to valetta and back.kalkara was served with 2buses an hour and the people living near de la salle college and hawli estate had 2buses an hour to go to valetta and back...NOW THEY HAVE TO TAKE 2BUSES JUST TO GET TO VALETTA. no wonder we used the buses so frequently, who wouldnt?
AND NOW IT HAS ALL GONE, GONE, GONE....
Irene Forster
Jul 25th 2011, 16:49
What is being done about the G'Mangia route ????? The minimum time from G'Mangia to Valletta is about 32 to 36 minutes as it goes through quite a number of stages and places before arriving at destination, when this is only a 5 to 8 minute ride. The alternative is to go to Msida or Hamrun.
Please explain
Irene Forster
hugh jars
Jul 26th 2011, 18:57
stop complaining, you are not in UK now. If you dnt like it go the other way!!!!
Irene Forster
Jul 28th 2011, 12:23
Dear Mr Jars,
Just for your information, I was born and bred in Malta from a Maltese family and have always lived in Malta and I certainly do not need, someone with a surname like Jars, telling me what to do, even if I were English. I am married to an Englishman, so please do not make any comments before knowing the facts. I am a frequent bus user as I do not drive and my request was very legitimate.
Yes I have every right to complain if after a long awaited reform, (of which I was eagerly waiting for and agreed with), things are not better but worse. I just hope that some of the routes are changed to suit the consumer as after all, we are the ones who have to be satisfied, or else as you so rightly put it, "if you dnt like it go the other way", and that is exactly what I am doing until the routes are change.
Thank you
Irene Forster
Mr Joseph Markham
Jul 25th 2011, 14:59
Route 52 from Rabat to Valletta, this morning circa 0907am
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly:
The Good: The bus (when it turned up) was new and clean. The driver was polite, though he seemed a bit upset (dunno the reason!) Drive to Valletta was quite uneventful, save for a few jolts due to abrupt braking and not stopping at a stage in Attard ( to the obvious displeasure to the youth who was waiting there!).
The Good: The bus (when it turned up) was new and clean. The driver was polite, though he seemed a bit upset (dunno the reason!) Drive to Valletta was quite uneventful, save for a few jolts due to abrupt braking and not stopping at a stage in Attard ( to the obvious displeasure to the youth who was waiting there!). The scrolling bus stop and audio announcements on board the bus were also working as advertised
The Bad: It took about 30 minutes for the bus to appear, when the advertised rate is about 1 bus every 10 minutes... Naturally, this threw off my schedule off the rails.... There also seemed confusion when we stopped in front of the Phoenicia hotel. The trip itself wasn't bad (unless one was thrown about by sudden braking if one was standing!). I was lucky to be seated.
The Ugly: The trip back was on a non-Arriva coach, which was not air-conditioned, smelly and dirty.... and with a driver with more studs than a horse! But I guess beggars can't be choosers, so hopped on and eventually arrived in Rabat. Luckily, it wasn't too hot.... otherwise, I would now be an advert for human body odours!!!!
The Ugly: Schedule? What schedule! I missed my appointment, courtesy of Arriva (Late).
Whoever came up with the idea of paper tickets should be lined up next to Valletta bastions, shot, hung, left to rot for a few weeks, and then fed to the fishes.... With existing fast, clean and efficient methods ( such as Oyster Card in the UK or ez-Link in Singapore ) one would avoid all the waste of time and handling of money by the already overworked driver, resulting in a more efficient journey (and possibly save a few trees ;-)
All in all, still far away from being good enough to justify me ditching my car.... :-))
Claire Busuttil
Jul 25th 2011, 13:27
I think that Arriva, should have an alternative route, when it`s usual road is closed due to the feasts.
But this should be a suitable one for people, and not just damp them, hundreds of meters away, from their original drop off point.
Public Transport service should have priority over feasts!!
Claire Busuttil
Jul 25th 2011, 13:24
I am still hearing a lot of compalins, due to the lack of proper service given by bus X2, especially on the Paola (opposite prison) bus stop.
People are still waiting and waiting there!!
Please take action!
Claire Busuttil
Jul 25th 2011, 13:23
yesterday the bus from Marsaxlokk to Marsaskala, was not working properly in the afternoon, there were maltese people, and tourists who went there for the Sunday, waiting in the sun.
Arriva take note!
Ray Gatt
Jul 25th 2011, 11:28
I think Arriva is a better service. I think things must take time to improve. So why do we Maltese always have to grumle? It is true there are some problems on the routes. But why not let Arriva take care about these problems. I am sure as Arriva offer an excellant bus service in most countries much bigger than Malta will settle these problems and sure we will get a super service. We must WAIT and see the results before we grumble.
cettina portelli
Jul 26th 2011, 19:01
and in the meantime, while we are WAITING,and WAITING, and WAITING... we are late for work, hospital appts, being stranded on bus stops in the hot sun for hours on end, etc.etc.etc.????
george montebello
Jul 25th 2011, 09:52
in my opinion as long as we are not having those old routes, which takes you straight to mater dei via university, and the one from all villages which takes you to the capital without changing the bus, i dont think we are going to have better transport, please arriva/malta transport take NOTE.
Mario Desira
Jul 25th 2011, 08:27
ARRIVA – TAKEN FOR A RIDE PART 3
Paceville - Midnight Saturday 23 July.
Old regime buses had a bus to Zurrieq departing midnight.
We waited and waited and waited in Paceville.
Arround 0030 an Arriva dispatcher appeared,
When a lady asked him why two buses to Mosta appeared while other localities did not show up, she was ignored. I asked him when the Zurrieq bus was coming and he said he would try to find a driver!
By 0045 I gave up and hired a van. On the van were people from Siggiewi Zebbug Attard Gudja Qrendi Zurrieq all obviously passengers whose bus did not turn up.
What excuse does Arriva have for this shoddy service this time? Surely at midnight there were more than enough drivers and buses to spare since the last services stopped at least one hour before!
Cindirella would be proud I am sure!
Carmel Cilia
Jul 25th 2011, 06:13
Today 25th July the beginning of the 4th week with Arriva(Mai) I took my wife at 5.15a.m. at the Belle View bus terminus for Valletta. The 102 bus arrived on time empty for Gnejna and left empty. By 5.55 am the number of people waiting for the bus to Valletta must have been around thirty. A Bus without any number arrived and the driver told us to take this bus to Bugibba and take another bus from there to Valletta.
When asked why no bus 41 or 11 appeared he just told us to tell these things to Arriva and added that no bus was coming.
From amongst the passengers waiting there was a young lady who had to travel to Kalkara.
Just imagine the beginning of a new week under these conditions.
I sayGonzi is feeling happy because the cyclists told him that the air has become cleaner.
Sorry Dr. Gonzi this morning the air at Belleview was anything but clean. The blaspheming I heard this morning Is on your precious conscience if you really has one. A third world country at its best.
Mario Desira
Jul 24th 2011, 22:04
ARRIVA – BEING TAKEN FOR A RIDE
PART 1 - Friday 22 July.
1830 HRS From Valletta terminus, no 72 bus in sight, so took Bus 71 and stopped at Airport Interchange.
1900 HRS Arrived at Airport Interchange. Dispatcher does not know arrival departure times.
2020 HRS Bus 72 finally appears
2035 HRS Arrival Qrendi a full two hours for what should have been a 25 minute journey.
PART 2 -Saturday 23 July.
Decided to see a horror movie in Paceville. The film starts 1835 hours. Decided to make this a test and trial run of the new so-called ’service’. Found out the journey itself was a horror prelude to the actual film………
Under the previous bus regime it was departure Qrendi at 1730 arrival Valletta 1800 then taking the direct Paceville bus arriving Paceville 1830.
1730 HRS – no bus 72 in sight so took the bus 118 which I called the Bloody Bubaqra bus. There one spends the best part of 20 minutes traveling from Zurrieq to Zurrieq, with the final ten minutes to arrive at the Airport exchange via Safi and Kirkop.
1800 HRS - Dispatcher informed X bus was going to Paceville but driver was having his break. Turned out the driver who for the past 25 minutes was conversing nearing us with some people was the driver on break. Another eight minutes before we actually boarded the bus. Then from Airport to Qormi Interchange and then to Mater Dei and finally Paceville.
1855 HRS - Arrived almost half an hour late, tense and agitated before the horror movie even started!
This journey took half an hour more than the old route and via Valletta……then we are led to believe having Valletta as a hub was unproductive and superfluous!
One final note. Arriva managing director Keith Bastow said:
"Whilst the changes do have a commercial impact upon us, l am pleased to be able to confirm that this additional cost will be borne by Arriva Malta and will neither be passed onto the travelling public nor Transport Malta."
Mr Bastow, Route 71 and 72 will now no longer pass through the Airport Interchange. In the early morning traffic jams that characterise the airport area, Arriva will actually be making a saving of almost 10 minutes worth of fuel including air conditioning which becomes 15 minutes once schools start again in September. Not only is this example not costly it will actually save time and money for Arriva and at least 10 extra minutes deleted in favour of the public using routes 71 and 72.
Wilfred Camilleri
Jul 24th 2011, 21:57
I find it incredible that after all the comments made about who is responsible for designing the routes, many of those commenting on the service insist to lay the blame on Arriva. Is it possible that there are that many thick headed and ignorant people in Malta?
So get it through your thick. muddled heads. TRANSPORT MALTA DESIGNED THE BUS ROUTES AND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CHANGING OR ADJUSTING THEM, NOT ARRIVA!!!!!
cettina portelli
Jul 27th 2011, 19:03
why is arriva not responsable for this mess?? a PROFESSIONAL and REPUTABLE company would have tried out the routes and timings for themselves by doing trial runs and made amendments accordingly BEFORE putting their buses on the road! transport malta gave them the routes, it was up to them to see if they worked!!!
C Vella
Jul 24th 2011, 18:23
I agree about giving the system a chance to settle down, but in the meantime many sectors are suffering. People think twice about making a journey to go shopping unless it is a necessity. Somebody should be held responsible for this mess. TM should be responsible enough, to admit that it is the main culprit. I have a question to whoever invented these new routes, "did u make try the system physically, to see if it works?" When someone invests in a new project, one should test it. Transport system effects the whole of Malta, surely it should have been taken more seriously. Whoever, tried to blame the people, the councils, etc that there was no feedback, I tell them that it is not true they did not try hard enough to get a feedback. I read the newspapers, follow the news, and read whatever arrives in my letterbox (of importance of course), the people were not informed enough. Compare what we were being fed on the referendum, to what we were being fed on the new transport system, I would say it was 5:100. Sorry whoever was responsible did not do his job properly, one way or the other.
The drivers who did not turn up for work, too contributed to this mess. Thanks to their action, things did go wrong.
Arriva can't be very proud of their website. I personally used it and followed it to the letter, only to arrive on a bus stop that instead of going to Cospicua indicated Xghajra. It was too hot for me to find out which was the mistake, i.e. the website or the notice board on the bus stop. I understood than why people were so frustrated.
maria theresa grech
Jul 24th 2011, 17:25
On the wholle the new service is improving.The thing ithat made unstable was about the hired coaches, as it was terrible inside them, too hott. But Route Bus 91 is fantastic, Keep it up.Thanks
John Mifsud
Jul 24th 2011, 18:01
are you serious Maria? You must be from Marsascala! What about us residents of Fgura??? Try getting a bus for work in the morning and you will rethink what you wrote! John Mifsud
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 25th 2011, 12:46
Is Bus 91 going past from Salini and Qaliet or not yet?? Because if no then i fail to see why you are soo happy with Bus no 91 Ms Grech!!
Alfred Fenech
Jul 24th 2011, 15:51
So far nothing good, wrong routes and delays, plus the fact that to go from A to B one has to go thru the whole alphabet. For heaven sake get a Maltese to draw the routes.
Ray Gatt
Jul 24th 2011, 18:01
It is the Maltese from TM who drew up the routes.
Ramon Mangion
Jul 24th 2011, 18:13
Erm Mr Fenech the routs were designed by TM not by Arriva
Sacha Sammut
Jul 24th 2011, 19:17
The minister or the company should have at least reviewed the routes. Even an idiot would realise that they are terrible. They should have stuck to the old routes in the beginning so that the change would not be that big and than in time change some of them as they see fit
Denis A. Darmanin
Jul 24th 2011, 09:53
Simple; how can you replace the old 400 plus bus system with the new 290?
Efficiency is not just better and more passanger friendly drivers and busses but less hassle to get from point A to B at a decent fare. Who wants a tour of Malta to go to Valletta, to Mater Dei, to school or to work? Does the Catamaran take us to Lampedusa, Pantelleria or elsewhere when we book to Sicilly? If it did, I'll catch a plane. Unfortuantely, we don't have an alternative public transport company capable of such a large service. Whoever decided on the new bus routes should be sacked.
Isn't there any b***** common sense left in this country!
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 24th 2011, 15:56
Dear Mr Darmanin,
You should be informed that while on the old bus system we actually had around 500 buses, compared to the 270 we have now, they ran on alternate days, while these ones run every day. This means that with Arriva, we have roughly the same number of buses on the road each day as with the old system. Therefore your argument about the number of buses does not hold.
I do agree with you that some of the routes are too long, and hopefully they should be changed soon. However, once the service becomes more regular and frequent, trying to find the optimal route to your destination and changing buses at interchanges will help a lot, and I don't think the routes are really the main issue here. My experience of the service so far tells me, that the main issue is frequency, the ridiculous amount of time being spent on bus stops, and a large section of the bus folk, especially the 40+, who strongly resist change.
Emanuel Cauchi
Jul 24th 2011, 08:15
Bus No 72 should pass through Valletta Road and New Street. There are elderly people who find it difficult to walk in the sun or rain from Carmel Street to Gudja Road. Considering old age people. After all this was the route before the introduction of the new ones by TM.
Victor Pullicino
Jul 24th 2011, 07:38
I insist that the service between Mgarr harbour and Victoria (Gozo) should also be synchronised with the arrival of ferry in Mgarr. This was the previous arrangement.
Unfortunately Arriva left us waiting for 30 minutes in scorching sun (no sheltered bus stop available) after the Gozo Channel ferry arrived in Mgarr
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 24th 2011, 18:16
That would be logical! If they're synchronising the route in Malta to Cirkewwa with the ferry, they should do the same on the other end!! Common sense!
A Cordina
Jul 25th 2011, 06:08
...sure! common sense!
Clint Falzon
Jul 23rd 2011, 22:24
what about a route linking the area of pembroke, st julians & sliema to the south (i.e. paola, mcast, the three cities & birzebbuga or marsaxlokk)??
Alessandro Bruno
Jul 24th 2011, 17:38
that would be great, this route should bypass Valletta and provide fast link between north and south.
By the way, 3 cities are badly under connected.
Simon Cutajar
Jul 23rd 2011, 21:21
We want to yellow buses back in service as soon as possible !
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 24th 2011, 15:57
Oh what a pain!
Carmel Cilia
Jul 23rd 2011, 18:39
For those young enough not to remember may I restate part of our transport history.
Over fifty five years ago when most of the public transport was worked on a daily individual basis there was on the Sliema,StJulian route a Bus company which went bust and this at the time when 95% of the population did not own a car.
In those far off days the Driver used to wear a nice uniform with a cap on which was affixed a badge with his licence number. In those days one could see several policemen on daily patrols at the bus terminus. These officers made sure that buses from Valletta left with eight and sometimes even twelve seats vacant so that passengers along the route could be served. Drivers then were monitored and controlled everysingle minute of the day.
Buses were technically inspected for faults by the police at regular intervals.
These public transport police so to it that buses were clean and that drivers were constantly at there seat when taking up passengers.
In one word the system then worked and we had modern(for those days) buses built locally for our needs.
By and by three companies were introduced and then all were merged in one single big company.
That spelled disaster, and to add salt on a bleeding wound in the last decades the public service was left decaying by successive governments until it finished in the state we had up to three weeks ago.
Yes I think that the government could if it only wanted to pressed itself on the drivers who became(with some exceptions) an arrogant undisciplined and provocative lot. It seems however that the present government wanted to give as it has been doing for the last twenty years another important card such as the public transport to foreigners.
Well keep it up and reap the harvest. When one day we realise that foreigners are only out to make profit and have not the least intention of offering a public utility it would be too late.
In Maltese we say_min ihalli ilhitu f'idejn haddiehor johodilu.
(with.some exceptions) an arrogant unethical and iresponsible lot
James Dewar
Jul 23rd 2011, 19:32
Carmel, Interesting observations. Some may well be surprised to hear that there was an efficient well organised and supervised public transport service operating as far back as 50 years ago. I don't think Malta is alone in seeing standards fall with amalgamations and centralisation in public transport. I do think the reason is that accountants, only interested in the profit / loss "bottom line", are now in the "driving seat" and customer service is secondary. Bad mistake and evidence of that is clear from the current situation.
Mark Anthony Mallia
Jul 23rd 2011, 17:33
Many thanks to the driver of BUS 023 driving route 110 trough balzan at 20:00GMT he was driving at about 5mph and I nearly crashed to overtake him :/
Thursday at 7:43pm
jay smith
Jul 25th 2011, 12:01
You must be a typical Maltese driver than. How can you nearly crash, by overtaking a bus driving 5mph as you say?
Tips of how to overtake a bus.
1) Do not overtakeif there a solid white lines on road.
2) Do not get to close to the bus; this will help you see more, what’s coming towards you.
3) Look ahead, once you see no traffic coming towards you, pass over. If bus is going 5mph, this should be really easy.
4) Do not use your mobile phone, when driving.
Happy driving
David Zammit
Jul 23rd 2011, 17:18
The purpose of the X1 bus is to take people who travel from Cirkewwa to the airport as a direct route with very few stops. Can anybody explain why this bus which passes from in front of 2 hotels, one is The Riviera Hotel and the other is The Seabank Hotel and does not stop at either one of them? I witness tourists waiting for the X1 in the sun, to go to the airport with their luggage.It does'nt stop just because someone did not think this route through properly and the needs of the people in this area.
David Zammit
Anthony Charles
Jul 23rd 2011, 15:40
I have used Arriva and I liked this impertfect service. However, there are more important issues around us whic the Times should take up; Libya and its embassy in Malta, the Greek situation, the idiocies and unChristian behaviour of the Maltese people in general and many others.
Mr Charles Mangion
Jul 23rd 2011, 15:12
C.Mangion Mr Delia do us all a favour and resign your job you are the worst Transport expert Malta ever had you made a shamble of the routes and put Arriva in a bad shape stop blaming the drivers
MARY aNN Busuttil
Jul 23rd 2011, 16:30
Well done!
John Zammit
Jul 23rd 2011, 13:42
Re : Buses 71 and 72 from Qrendi and Zurrieq to Valletta
It is good that you are readjusting these two routs but as I have suggested on my previous comment, re route one of these buses to pass from Valletta Road , Luqa to cater to those industries there instead of both of them passing from in front of St. Vincent de Paul thus the public would be better serviced.
Emanuel Cauchi
Jul 24th 2011, 08:11
I can't agree more with you, but there are elderly people who live in Luqa who have to walk in the sun or rain from St Thomas street (Bus Stop) to Gudja Road. If bus 72 passes through Valletta road onto New Street and keep going straight not turning towards Luqa Square, would be very adequate.
Noel Bartoli
Jul 23rd 2011, 12:56
Can route 202 which currently passes through Attard from Rabat to Technopark, have some stops in Attard especially in Triq tat-Torba / Triq Pantar which links Attard to the Northern Part
D Abdilla
Jul 23rd 2011, 12:36
Frequency and reliabitily has to be radically improved. Last Thursday afternoon I decided to go from Siggiewi to Valletta using the Arriva service. It was ok getting there but coming back I had to wait for an hour (there were people who had been there for 2 hours). Thank God it was about 6 pm. I imagine it would have been much worse if it were at about 2pm. When the bus finally showed up it was number number 61 (to Zebbug) and only after a lot of insistence from all of us did they decide to use it to go to Qormi, Zebbug AND Siggiewi. Neeedless to say the bus left Valletta full, leaving people on bus stops stranded and also skipping about 4 stops on the Siggiewi route because it passed through Qormi centre instead of the usual route.
Apart from all of this one bus every half an hour in the early morning is definetely not enough. And things will get worse in October when many university students etc will also start using the service.
I hope these comments are forwarded to the right people.
S Borg
Jul 23rd 2011, 11:58
I am seeing the new routes and it seems that routes 22 and 32 are going to pass from Rue D'argens -Agreed, but now if I am resoning well the residents of San Gwann cannot go to Sliema ferries, Tower Road etc. with the new routes. Previously we had the 65 from Rabat to Sliema via San Gwann and the proposed route is going to be aborted. Have you taken this into cinsideration? San Gwann resident cannot even go to B'kara as one has to take 2 buses. I am sorry but I am worse off .
John Bencini
Jul 23rd 2011, 11:49
Before ARRIVA arrived, we residents at Psaila Street and vicinities had the luxury to take a direct 15 minute drive to Valletta. Thanks to ARRIVA, we now have to face a hassle everyday. The direct route to Valletta has been cancelled. We now have to take bus 125 which takes us back to MATER DEI and then wait for another bus to take us to Valletta. Two days ago I ventured to try my luck. It took me one hour and thirteen minutes to arrive in Valletta!! I have now returned to my usual routine by making use of my private car. A pity!!
ray huber
Jul 23rd 2011, 10:22
@ hugh jars
Go and do something, you are OVER BORING!
Mr Charles Mangion
Jul 23rd 2011, 09:21
Charles Mangion 7Route buses usedto pass from Fgura and during peak hours it was not enough Route 3,17 18,19 20 21 now only 91 passes and by the time it arrives in Zabbar its already full up wait when school starts it will get worst Route 300 used to serve 3 Cities and Zabbar to Mater Dei and carry all those studens to Msida Mcast and the University Arriva wake up do your homework and forget what Delia told you if you want to make profit DELIA is no expert in the Transport EX ENFORSMENT OFFICER NO 15
Joseph Ellul
Jul 23rd 2011, 08:41
I would like to visit Malta next year. Can you tell me if Arriva will be operating efficiently by then.
i suggest that all buses be fitted with a GPS with a predestination course.
James Dewar
Jul 24th 2011, 00:19
Should the question not be "will Arriva still be operating by then"?
Mario Pace
Jul 24th 2011, 19:02
I hope not!
I would like to see the yellow buses back again, re-engineed to stop the smog and have clean air.
Laura Falzon
Jul 23rd 2011, 08:37
@@ Hugh Jars .... Booooooooooring
Reuben D. Spiteri
Jul 23rd 2011, 09:34
As we in the internet gaming say, don't feed the trolls.
He is just throwing in little sentences with the intention of provoking someone into a rant or rage. Just ignore him.
Joseph W. Galea
Jul 23rd 2011, 07:42
Are the people from Valletta having any problems? I mean this is the main terminal and everything starts there.
Mr Lawrence Mifsud
Jul 23rd 2011, 06:57
Mr. Delia has plenty of things to explain........
John Mifsud
Jul 23rd 2011, 17:26
I totally agree with you! Its transport malta (sic!) that has made a complete FLOP with the Arriva service! If we were still under the French, many heads would have been cut off!!! Please Arriva give us residents of FGURA a line of hope for us to get a decent means of transport we were so praying for!! John Mifsud
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 23rd 2011, 02:09
Delia, you "some" has effected the whole of malta and the tourist industry. Where is mr. 38% + 600 Euros.
Mr John Richards
Jul 22nd 2011, 21:55
I strongly recommend that that the Savoy route (60) and the (42) bus route that passed through Rue D Argens be used again by Arriva. I travel by bus everyday and i have an interest to see the system improve. This street is a main street and i see no reason why Arriva discontinued these routes. There are many commuters in this area who are suffering as a result of these changes. It is important that consultation with commuters takes place to fix these teething problems. Otherwise the reform will not help people to use more the public transport system, and the existing commuters will not benefit from the changes effected. Action is needed as empty words are superfluous.
Reuben Vassallo
Jul 22nd 2011, 21:34
Thanks a lot from Gozo... thanks you for ruining the summer (work) season for all
of us that have something to do with tourism on our little crib island. Pack your stuff
and leave the office, whoever the author of this gaffe is!! Shame on our country, we
will be feeling the ripple effect on the tourism industry for a long time!
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 23rd 2011, 23:00
How dare they provide public transport on the Republic of Gozo!
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 24th 2011, 18:14
Seriously?? You complain now that you have a public transport system that was practically non-existent for decades?
Tony Caruana
Jul 22nd 2011, 20:29
A spokesman for the Ministry of Transport - Emanuel Delia - will be clarifying or correcting some of the points raised by readers.
dennis azzopardi
Jul 22nd 2011, 18:24
Are all these comments part of a conspiracy theory ,Mr big shot Delia &Co!!
Noel Abela
Jul 22nd 2011, 17:24
Manuel Delia should resign he has nothing to clarify. He was the one who did not miss any opportunity to be in all the photo shoots taken before the service was introduced. He even went to China to see the buses being loaded on the ship. No since the launch he was nowhere to be seen. The end result, Tom Dick and Harry are having to endure the hardships that Mr Delia can never imagine becasue most probably he makes use of a paid by me and you car as a reward for his fiasco and that of his Minister Gatt.
A Caruana
Jul 22nd 2011, 17:09
Just returned home after visiting my elderly mother who is now a prisioner in her home as Arriva and Austin gatt took away the bus which passed from near the Jerma Hotel in Marsascala. My mother received the Local Council magazine, a glossy in full colour which must have cost a packet. Anyway the Local Councillor responsible for Public Transport is clearly clueless about the transport situation in his own locality!! For example he says that residents of Bellavista now thanks to Arriva have transport - WRONG! there was Bus no 20 on the old route pre- Arriva which took residents of Bellavista to Valletta and now they can only go to Zejtun! So that is progress according to Councillor Mugliett! Meanwhile Residents of Zonqor have lost their Bus no 17 to Valletta which also passed from near Jerma Hotel therefore this old Bus route 17 was serving 2 seperate areas in Marsascala and also managed to make the trip to Valletta in less than 40 Minutes! So if this Clueless Councillor thinks that his locality is happy with the Bus Service as proposed by Arriva and approved by Austin Gatt and Manwel Delia then it is clear that he is only Politically motivated not to rock any 'boats' it shows a total lack of knowledge of what residents want and need. It is also no surprise therefore that while other Local Councils have already protested for their areas in favour of their residents that the Marsascla Local Council has mantained a strange media silence despite the many complaints they are receiving - is this perhaps the real reason that the Council actually approved the new Arriva routes without informing the residents by means of a public consultation meeting? If the Council did not actually consult residents on matters concerning them is any decision by a Council Valid? Can it be contested by the residents? Maybe somebody with some knowledge of Local Councils law can give an answer please. It is very clear that someone is responsible for the Public transport mess in Marsascala and many villages in the South of Malta, even the Cospicua Market is empty as Marsascala also lost the 22 Bus direct to Cospicua. Valletta shops are suffering as commuters do not want to gop to Valletta by a roundabout route. The answer is simple Arrive- BRING BACK THE OLD ROUTES IN EACH LOCALITY!!!
dennis azzopardi
Jul 22nd 2011, 18:38
Bus no 91 should pass through triq il qaliet in marsascala,
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:19
BORING
Godfrey Pirotta
Jul 23rd 2011, 09:33
don't let jar, bother you. He must have very little to do with his life or constructive to say if he spends his time reading things which he finds boring. Unless of course he is an assistant to Manwel Delia.
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 25th 2011, 12:49
AGREE WITH YOU 100 PER CENT A. CARUANA!! Marsaskala will only be served with the Bus 91 when it passes from all the areas, especially the biggest residential area that is known locally as is Siberial area! Which is from
A Caruana
Jul 22nd 2011, 15:50
Residents of Marsascala, please go and sign the petition for a direct Bus route to Valletta at the Happypaws Charity shop in Triq il Qaliet near st Thomas Supermarket. Austin gatt has made an exception for one person in Cospicua because he went on a hunger strike, so now we have to get many signatures in the petition to get the Bus 91 from Triq il Qaliet, please go and sign and take your friends and relatives also,
John Mifsud
Jul 24th 2011, 17:48
What us residents of Fgura should do to get a decent bus service?? Sign a petition to our dormant local council too?? It's taking us ages to get to work on time as all 91 buses reach Fgura full up!! It has been 3 bloody unforgetable weeks, not for Arriva, but for Transport Malta! They should all resign! John Mifsud
Joseph Stephen Galea
Jul 22nd 2011, 15:22
Practically three weeks have elapsed now and the 103 bus driver this morning (approx 9am) had no clue of his route. And it was an Arriva bus. I could see it going around Santa Margerita from near the GHADAJJAR bus stop. It then was no where to be seen.
Joseph Vella
Jul 22nd 2011, 13:02
I'm going to tell you a very good short joke; ARRIVA................
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:22
Ha Ha, boring like most maltese jokes, get a life
Charles Vassallo
Jul 22nd 2011, 11:55
My daughter was at the stage in St. Andrews rd, Pembroke waiting for bus 11 or 12 from 10:55 to 11:35.
It is about time you get your act together.
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:25
leave earlier
Yvonne Attard
Jul 22nd 2011, 10:23
My daughter has just sent me an sms telling me that she had finally got on a bus after 40 minutes waiting at B'Kara. The number 42 came and just 3 people got on, then the 41 which was full up and then three buses 202 which dont go to Valletta and then finally the number 43 arrived and she got on. In B'Kara we had a lot of buses that passed from here and we also had the bus terminus, now we just have the 41 which is full up at certain times in the morning, and the 42 and 43. We are talking about the town with the biggest population of about 21,000 people so I think we should at least have a bus terminus which goes to Valletta. Now my daughter has to go to Valletta to meet her friends and get on another 41 to go to Ghadira. Lets see what time she gets there.
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:27
no shortage of buses by the looks of it
Yvonne Attard
Jul 22nd 2011, 20:07
The buses arrive but are full up. I dont think you have ever boarded one by your comments.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 22nd 2011, 10:14
I am waiting for the 1,000th comment on Arrive transport I am sure that this is one thing that will arrive. How about a reward by MT?
Mr Saviour falzon
Jul 22nd 2011, 04:46
I uses bus n0. 61 or 62. 2 out of the 4 times , I used it was so bad. yesterday after 1 hour waiting I managed to get on the bus, cause the one that passed before was full up,there were elderly people too ,who waited much longer than me, cause ,they said even the previous bus passed full up.
One woman an elderly ( which to me did wrong cause the bus driver is just a bus driver of that bus) complained with him of how much she waited. well he replied as the ARRIVA says (professional bus drivers ;) )
bus driver" you all lies so much etc.. etc.. :)
Yes professional bus drivers :) when there were a lot of testimonies , shop owner etc..
bus stop was at Qormi in front of qormi local councel. they were there since 8.45 am bus ticket was at 10.08 am
lolllllll good service
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:28
cant understand a word
A Caruana
Jul 22nd 2011, 01:20
Quo Vadia Arriva? 781 comments totally ignored By Manwel Delia, Arriva and Austin gatt , 3 weeks of non Arriva and Marsascala residents are still without a direct bus route to Valetta from some areas. Let us protest and make our voices heard tomorrow Friday at midday..
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:29
what happened then
Brandon Theuma
Jul 21st 2011, 22:35
Give us back the old routes please Aghar Iva !
Daniel Caruana
Jul 21st 2011, 22:01
This evening had to drive to Paola to pick up my wife from the Bus stop next to the
Police Station as Bus 81 did not turn up between 19:10 till 20:00 , which is supposed to run every 00:15. (Route destinations at the same bus stop are wrongly indicated).
Meanwhile was contacted by my daughter to pick her up from Bir id Deheb as she had to catch Bus 82 as 81 was not available at Valletta. But had it not been my own daughter, would not have believed the story she retold.
A commuter who boarded at Bombi bus stop, roughly complained with the foreign driver that he should not have left Valletta with the bus so full, as there would not be enough space to pick up commuters en route. However other passengers on the bus claimed that they also have had their long wait.
At Marsa Bus stop 4 coloured passengers wanted to board, but the bus driver insisted that there was only place for one. Reluctant to disembark, the passenger who boarded from Bombi stormed to them and pushed them himself off the bus. A commotion ensued where one of the guys was push and fell to the ground and a young lady passenger suffered a head impact . Cross arguments ensued on the bus throughout the trip.
Dear Editor
Can the respective authority be it Police, TM or Arriva claim responsability for health and safety on Arriva buses?
This indicates that matters are getting out of hand and warrants attention and action.
Steve Zammit
Jul 21st 2011, 20:12
Arriva so far? Total Flop!!
Buses are scheduled to leave Zebbug every 15 mins
Every morning, you're lucky if a bus passes every hour
Net result, bus leaves Zebbug full...commuters at Qormi are left stranded
With the old system, this never happened before
Its ridiculous that now to catch a bus to Mater Dei, I need to go to Marsa and be lumped with commuters from the Airport! Bring back old route 890! It sevred so many people perfectly! Coem next October we are going to have chaos!
Also you rarely see an Arriva bus at Zebbug, instead we are being served coaches that dont have proper AC
When are we going to be offered a decent service?
Maurice Cini
Jul 21st 2011, 18:25
Dear ARRIVA or (AGHAR IVA),
Can you please inform us public Why the Bus no 3 is starting coming at Kalkara 06.30 instead of 06.07 Daily?.Then it has to proceed to Xghajra taking another 25 minutes.Please remenber that there are persons waiting to go to work and others having appointments at Hospitals. Can you also explain Why Last Sunday, I have been waiting for the bus no 3 at Rinella(1383) from 06.45 and till 07.55 no bus had came forward? I have managed a lift to Vittoriosa, However, a bus arrived at Vittoriosa at 08.25. Can you please tell us WHEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DECENT TRANSPORT SERVICE REGARDING THE CORRECT TIMES THAT YOU HAVE PUBLICISED. Apologies only are not going to solve any problem.WE NEED CONCRETE ACTION. Maurice Cini
cettina portelli
Jul 22nd 2011, 16:30
this morning, friday 22july, there were people on the bus stop in bormla at 0540am waiting in the hope that the no.2 bus which should depart from birgu to valetta at 0550am would turn up. IT NEVER ARRIVED AT ALL. the next bus that should have arrived in bormla at 0610am, the no.3 from xghajra, finally got to bormla at 0645am!!!! WHAT SORT OF A SERVICE IS THIS? how can we get to work by 7.00am if no buses turn up when they are supposed to? PLUS the fact that the no.3 left FULL from the riche bus stop which meant even MORE waiting for the people of bormla desperate to get to work!!! sending emails to arriva about their (NON)service just gets you back a lot of crap for a reply....we may be a small country but we aint stupid and ARRIVA should realise this by now!
Maurice Cini
Jul 21st 2011, 18:12
Iwould like to know when we are going to have a decent Transport Service with respected times on schedule.I am referring to BUS no 3 to Xghajra via Kalkara because now you have REMOVED the bus Valletta to Kalkara and vice versa. Can you please also tell us WHY you have removed this service from passing through St.Liberata street which has also a developement area, As a NON-Driver person WITHOUT any car I ask for an immediate answer,without any apologies, because now ALL MALTA is FED UP with the kind of service rendered regarding times and routes.
Thanks Maurice Cini
PLEASE NOTE:THIS MAIL WAS SENT ON JULY 15TH 2011, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ANSWER FROM TRANSPORT MALTA.
Charles Alamango
Jul 21st 2011, 17:56
Unfortunately I rarely use the buses due to the limited service they have always delivered. With the new huge buses and roundabout routes I am noticing that due to the size of the new buses a lot of traffic jams are being created, also long queues at the bus stops. In my line of work I'm constantly meeting 'new', people every day and the most common comment is that the buses are a vast improvement on the old ones as regards comfort but the journeys are excessively long. Another common comment is the failure of buses to turn up at the indicated hour, this plus the roundabout journey is creating havoc with people's plans. Something must be done quick. Arriva is losing clients, public is angry and tourists are fuming. Dear Minister concerned DO SOMETHING NOW....
TESSA IRWIN
Jul 21st 2011, 17:38
My father and mother have been bus drivers in the UK for 20 years. They are extremely hard workers who have never taken a day off sick. They work for Arriva and was offered, via an advert at work, to come to Malta to drive Arriva busses there. My parents put an application to work in Malta for a few months. 7 days after my parents applied to work in Malta, a new advert was placed on the wall with the EXACT SAME WORDS, apart from an addition that read “PS. ANYONE THAT HAS VISIBLE TATTOOS CAN NOT APPLY.”
My father is the ONLY person (out of hundreds of employees) with visible tattoos on his hands (a Winnie the Poo, representing my daughter and Ivy, representing my niece) and neck (my name, my mothers name and my brother’s name). Arriva have clearly stated my father can not go because Malta law does not allow people to drive busses if they have tattoos showing (although they can drive the busses if they have tattoos that are not visible). Does anybody know whether this is true? My parents have appeared on TV documentaries for Arriva in the UK, raised thousands for charity, and are highly respected people. The fact he has a few visible tattoos should not prevent BOTH my parents from going.
James Dewar
Jul 21st 2011, 20:18
Tessa, It would appear that Arriva do in fact have a rule rgarding their drivers in Malta not having visible tatoos. Dare say it is up to them to set the standards as they see fit. However there seem to be double standards if your father has without previous complaint or comment driven buses in the UK for Arriva thereby suggesting that Tatoos are ok in UK but not in Malta.
As you may be aware the request for UK drivers to drive buses in Malta is very much an emergency move due to the apparent non appearance of a large number of newly recruited drivers in Malta at the start of the new service on 03/07. From your post it would seem that the addition of the requirement re tatoos on the advert was retrospective.
It beggars belief that in what by any standards is an ongoing emergency with a shambolic transport service Arriva feel that they can be so choosy as to make this stipulation. I am of the opinion that as some of the "old regime" drivers in Malta were renowned for their bad attitude and scruffy appearance including many having tatoos Arriva decided to "clean up". They have so far made a number of errors of judgement in the introduction of the new public transport service and I suspect that this is yet another!! I am certain that Maltese and Tourists alike would not give a hoot if the driver was tatooed from head to toe if the bus appeared on time (or even just appeared in some cases) and got them directly to their destination on time. That is not happening at present. If Arriva are going to be as nit picky as that I doubt very much that they will deliver the level of service promised any time soon.
Jason Zammit
Jul 21st 2011, 17:18
Another comment i would like that someone from Arriva answers is, why such buses have "Bus not in Service" on front screen and then you see them full up with people, May be those people are realtives of the driver going to the beach.......???? who knows ????/
Jason Zammit
Jul 21st 2011, 17:15
Across the Board we improved a bit but there is a long way for more improvment, People where expecting a lot from this venture but till now it was a flop, lets give it some more time maybe we see slight improvments......
Jason z
Mrs M. Attard
Jul 21st 2011, 17:00
Residents of Marsaskala who live in the Cerviola, Jerma, St Thomas bay areas are invited to meet tomorrow morning ( Friday ) at the bus stop 'Girgal' outside Happypaws shop in Triq il Qaliet opposite Cerviola Hotel at noon to discuss a plan of action regarding the Direct Bus to Valletta. More info: [email protected] or call 99639733
hugh jars
Jul 22nd 2011, 19:51
bet no one turned up
Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze
Jul 26th 2011, 08:38
Mr Jars, Get a grip and understand that commuters are displeased with the overall service Arriva has provided so far!
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 21st 2011, 15:44
Marsascala residents are still WAITING for Bus no 91 to have the route EXTENDED to pass from Salini Street and out from Qaliet street, only when this is done can the Transport Malta, Austin Gatt, Manwel Delia and Arriva claim to have given Marsascala residents a decent Bus service! My 78 year old mother is virtually now a prisioner in her own house, so should she go on a hunger strike also??
Ramona Mifsud
Jul 22nd 2011, 08:31
I totally agree Francesca!.. same goes for my parents, they are locked in their own house.. but someone said this is good for them coz they can now do some exercise !! Yes exercise at 1pm in summer.. going up Qaliet Street in the sun... you don't want to see a dog walking up this road, let alone old aged people. What a disgrace!
dennis azzopardi
Jul 22nd 2011, 18:44
Maybe a solution would be for Arriva to provide a couple mini buses that can collect passengers from various spots and ferry them to the the main bus stop at mifsud bonnici square
A Cordina
Jul 21st 2011, 14:43
I wonder whether someone from Arriva or TM is seeing these posts!
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 21st 2011, 15:02
I would very much doubt it !
Simon Borg
Jul 21st 2011, 13:05
I think it is better that this service started operating on the old routes first and than when all is settled more routes are introduced.
I myself have not yet used this service as after the comments I heard I do not like to take any chances especially in this hot weather, my son arrived in Paceville after 2 hours that he left Fgura.
Most important are our tourists as it is not a pretty site seeing the long quees at Qawra bus terminus, something has to be done fast in order to make our tourists feel comfortable during thier stay.
Simon.
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 21st 2011, 13:25
@ Simon Borg,
If Arriva started operating on the old routes, we would have easily noticed the fare increase that they imposed.
By shuffling and mixing up all the routes, the computers were so confused that this fact went mostly unnoticed.
So the promise that we were given by the minister, that fares would remain unchanged was a little porky lie.
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 21st 2011, 12:26
Route 133
I suggest a slight amendemnt. This route (133) stops in front of the war museum. It does not go towards the Mediterranean Conference cente, ergo, ID Card Office and Passport Office. Please do not tell me that route 122 passes from there, that route is not suitable for Valetta. Therefore when 133 goes down Republic Street it should make a slight detour towards Evans Building, only one minute away, but too far for aged and handicapped persons. Shall we wait 600 years for such a small alteration?
Mario Desira
Jul 21st 2011, 10:28
18 DAYS after the Arriva service has started the notion of a timetable is still elusive.
Let me illustrate by one example, route 72 which is Qrendi to Valletta direct, with an average additional 10 minutes extra wasted stopping at the Airport interchange.
The departure according to the Arriva booklet sent to our homes is 0701 hours.
Here are the actual facts, contrary to proclamations by Arriva. On the following sample dates, this supposedly 0701 bus departed as follows –
05 JUL departure 0728 (27 mins late)
07 JUL departure 0701 (on time)
08 JUL departure 0722 (21 mins late)
14 JUL departure 0652 ( 9 mins early!!)
15 JUL departure 0721 (20 mins late)
18 JUL departure 0711 (10 mins late)
19 JUL departure 0710 (09 mins late)
20 JUL departure 0714 (13 mins late)
21 JUL departure 0730 (30 mins late)
Above data supported by actual tickets.
Sorry this seems to be a case of incompetence and mismanagement nothing else!!
Meanwhile buses 117 and 118 run around in circles with just four or five passengers, ending at the airport and whose destination is still Valletta!
Mr Paul Caruana
Jul 21st 2011, 12:08
This is very disappointing! Unless Arriva manages to run its buses according to timetable, and soon, the reform will be a big expensive failure.
Get the valletta routes right by putting additional buses on the valletta routes if need be, even at the cost of scrapping the regional intervillage bus routes - which hardly anyone uses anyway!
Reg Alfour
Jul 21st 2011, 09:42
One word. CATASTROPHIC.
And no real signs of improvement. Just subbing routes off (at great cost) to coach operators.
A disgrace.
alfred seguna
Jul 21st 2011, 09:23
We had a pool of problems with public transport but now we have an ocean of problems.I hope that we never hear again the names of those responsible of this Babilonja entrusted with other projects.The best thing to do I think is to start from scratch and get another company.Personally I am afraid to get a bus because I dread the though of being left stranded for hours.When the transport was BAD at least I could calculate the time I would take for my journey,but now this is impossible.WERE WE PREPARED OR WERE WE NOT .........THAT IS THE QUESTION????????,after so much bluff.
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Jul 21st 2011, 07:55
@Mr Anthony Borg. I agree with your comment. Incidentally a certain Peter Korsten, who accused me of being a lawyer who does not get his facts right, wrote elsewhere (under Mr Bastow's interview) the old bus system working one day on and one day off. So out of 508 buses they would have 254.
I contacted a gentleman who knows the facts. The ATP had a pool of 508, and they always had 320 on the road. If there was more demand in particular periods, they would call more from their pool.
Routes were definitely shorter and more direct from point to point. They were not like the London Bus which caters for tourist tours !
j. catania
Jul 21st 2011, 07:20
the new buses are great but there are things to be arranged
1. the bus routes
2. the time they arrive
3. the driver needs to pass from the proper roads and not from others
Claire Busuttil
Jul 20th 2011, 21:23
Dear Arriva,
unfortunatley I have to say that the X2 bus is not working well. This bus takes people from the south of Malta to Mater dei, Sliema and the Airport, so it is an extremly important bus!
Today at 3pm this bus arrived to Paola, and the driver refused to take people from there....leaving them stranded, he said that he was going for break!!!
Please take note, people cannot be treated like this.
Anthony Borg
Jul 20th 2011, 18:22
I have noticed a lot of Transport Malta personnel with writing pads, jotting down routes and details.
But the problem must be with the lesser number of buses servicing longer than previous routes.
If before July 3rd ATP had around 500 buses how can Arriva cope with just 250?
James Dewar
Jul 20th 2011, 19:07
Anthony, 757 comments tell me that they cant!!
Mr Lawrence Mifsud
Jul 21st 2011, 09:38
They tried to do it by including more zones/area into previously much shorter routes. This is at the expense of the commuter, who has to spend much longer on a bus.
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 21st 2011, 15:54
No one has yet seen them in Marsascala though!! They should monitor Bus nos 119 and 124 = empty most of the time and Bus no 91 which is not doing the route as promised.
Darren Vassallo
Jul 20th 2011, 17:43
Dear Arriva,
I would like to bring to your attention the following query.
A couple of days ago my wife used the Arriva bus (route X2) from Mater Dei hospital to Sliema - opposite the Preluna Hotel.
My kids were on the same ride and my 8yr old son realised that he didn't have his bag with him upon the arrival in Sliema at 1800hrs.The bag consisted of a PSP with 9 original games all amounting to around €450.Although they tried to get the drivers attention the bus still drove on.They all didn't give up and ran to the Sliema Ferries to intercept the bus from there but they didn't make it.
My wife spoke to the dispatcher who contacted the Control Room on his cell phone,then he handed over the phone to my wife so she could explain. All the operator told my wife was to leave her phone number so she would be contacted and at the time she was given the following numbers 25960109 & 21222000 so she could follow up.
However she wasn't contacted and decided to call herself on the numbers that she was given before.After she called the number she was referred to other numbers 25960151 then after calling this number she was given another 25960110.She spoke to an operator with the name of Sarah but she claimed that she couldn't help her much as there was no communication with other control rooms.Apart these numbers she was also given 2 more numbers which were unsuccessful as no answer.
Then my wife decided to go directly to the source - Floriana -Park and Ride but she had to wait till 2045hrs from 1900hrs meaning a 105 minute wait.Then she took another route as the X2 route bus didn't show up.
When she eventually made it to the terminus a driver named Ray Pace went out of his way to help my family as he understood their disappointment.He led her to the control room and again my wife left her number to be contacted. Despite the goodwill of Mr Pace the same problem arose again as there is no means of communication between the buses and interchanges.
Untill this time I wasn't aware of the situation as I was on duty but when I knew and seeing my son crying I went directly to Floriana -Park and Ride waiting for the bus to finish its journey but at this point at 2330hrs obviously we were hoping too much at this time.
I understand that every company would have its teething problems with schedules,but having such comunication problems and NO customer care is unacceptable.
Today I tried contacting someone on customer care so we could ask you to refer to the CCTV recording at the time (obviously hoping that this works)but all we got is unanswered calls and when we got through all we were told was to call other numbers.
Shouldn't the drivers have a means of communication with their base if they need to be contacted?We could have contacted the driver much earlier and would have had the probability of finding the bag.
Why isn't the CCTV working as it should on the buses?
I am not blaming the driver or Arriva for the loss of my son's bag but I am blaming the mis-managed company, and to this I expect compensation to this.
I am not grumbling about the bad service or the lack of organisation but customer care which doesn't exist after so much preparation and expectation
.Getting the same level of service as we had in the early 80's is unacceptable.Since the new tariffs, altered roads and all the adjustments the public had to go through I understand that the service should have been much much better.
Please follow up with answers as I need to forward them to my son.
Richard Zammit
Jul 20th 2011, 17:19
oxxenita
anthony attard
Jul 20th 2011, 16:34
This is for you Mr.Emanuel Delia . I want an explanation why,a friend of my son 13years of age was invited at my place had to cancell the invitation because he waited invain for Arriva to arrive from 10.15am till 12.15pm.This was in Kalkara, it seems that the commuters of the south are worst hit . You and the minister involved should admitt that you made a MEGA MESS in the supposed transformation of public transport and the tons of promisses of a better service . Do you all this a better service, I'd suggest that you people should seek medical help, don't underestimate the inteligence of the people. It's almost 3 weeks now and still with never ending problems , ther's no other solution than who is concerned should couragiously resine because we are sick of these situations. By the way don't tell me that I should have either went to pick him up myself or send a TAXI to pick him because there used to be a deluge of adverts to use public transport , tiftakara Sur Delia B' TAL- LINJA JAQBILLEK . Meta ? Forsi bhal tad-diska In the year 2525 ta Zager & Evans forsi tisimghawa fuq Utube.
Daniel Caruana
Jul 20th 2011, 18:20
Good to you Mr Borg that you only waited 16min for bus 125. My daughter last Monday waited in vain for 2 hours at Diego bus stop in Hamrun to catch 125, afterwhich she had to abondon her attempt to attend prepaid tuition. By the way the bus stop signs in Psaila Str have been put up , but can Arriva advise when their service would be running per schedules and reliable. As until then, it is dreading and a gamble to use their service, at the cost of our time and money.
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 20th 2011, 16:24
“Dear Arriva”
Today, Wednesday 20th July, shed some ray of hope to the beleaguered new bus system.
I am happy to report that the three routes I boarded were not long in waiting (cannot say on-time because the printed time-tables have never been kept since the launch of the system on 3rd July).
I boarded Route 106 from Misrah Kola, Attard to Mater Dei (waiting time 12 minutes), where I had to change bus for Route 125 to go to my dentist in Birkirkara (waiting time 16 minutes). From Birkirkara I boarded bus Route 43 (waiting time 11 minutes) to take me to Lija near Bathroom Design, for some shopping.
Finally, I waited for 106 again at the Lija Bus Stop number 1289 named “Wiji” (waiting time 12 minutes) to take me back home to Attard.
Although perhaps the waiting times were not exactly as per Arriva brochure time-tables, it was a far cry from the previous days waiting of 35 -45 minutes!
Hoping the service will continue to improve, not only for H’Attard residents, but to all parts of Malta.
Victoria Vella
Jul 20th 2011, 12:30
On the 16th 0f June I sent an email to Arriva . A month later I got their reply. I'm doing a cut and paste of my letter to Arriva and of their reply. I leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.
On 16 June 2011 18:16, Victoria Vella email address xxxxxx wrote:
Sir
I can afford to buy a car and I also have a driving licence but up to now I never felt the need to own a car because I have more often than not, found the public transport more than adequate.
I live in Main street Mellieha a few metres away from the bus stop. I use the bus to go to Mosta where I visit the polyclinic ,the public library and even the Banks. The buses run frequently and the trip lasts between 25 and 30 mins. Less than if I have to walk to the centre of Mellieha and do the same errands there ! I go to Naxxar to visit my dentist. There is a direct bus to Naxxar twice in the morning. I go to Mater Dei.and my daughter goes to University. Direct routes; no stops at Bugibba. Shopping in Sliema, direct route to Sliema. My daughter goes to Paceville at the weekend . Direct route from a bus stop nearby and the tickets cost 2.32 euros return.
As from the 3rd of July we will have a new public transport operator.. I was looking forward to the change. There was talk of a better service though at a higher price. The price increase would be offset by the better service I thought.
Unfortunately from my careful perusal of your site and after studying the material in the pack I received at home, I came to the conclusion that the new service Arriva will be offering leaves much to be desired.
REASONS
1 The most important is that the buses going away from Mellieha will no longer pass through the centre of the village. The result is that I will either
a. have to put on my walking shoes and walk to the bus stops on the outskirts of Mellieha and then change into high heels on the bus or
b. Take a bus going to Cirkewwa and stop at Ghadira and catch the bus from there or
c. get the circular bus and take a tour round the village before I'm dropped off at a bus stop from where I can board a bus going towards Valletta.
d. beg a lift to the bus stop
In all four scenarios I will have to leave home a good half an hour if not three quarters of an hour before I need to catch the bus.
2 All Trips then pass through Bugibba - Qawra- Bugibba Extra travel time which I can't afford.
3 To go to Mater Dei or University I either need to wait for the Airport bus or else change buses at Bugibba.
4 to go to Naxxar I need to go to the technopark at Mosta first.
Changing buses seems to be the norm with the new service. I wouldn't have minded if I had to change at Bugibba or Mosta to go to the South of the Island, but eliminating existing Direct routes to Mater Dei and University, and bypassing the village core will not improve the service in my opinion.
As I see it the new service is an excellent means for low budget tourists to see the island but it is no service at all for locals who have no time to waste and who want to get from point A to point B with the least hassle and inconvenience.
I hope I have got it wrong. I await your answer hoping that you can prove me wrong.
Victoria Vella
Arriva's Reply received 18th July 2011
Good Afternoon,
With reference to your email received prior to the 1st of July 2011 I would like to apologize for the delay in replying which was caused by technical problems experienced during the first weeks of the Customer Care's operation.
The information you have provided is all correct.
Arriva Malta Ltd. has been contracted by Malta Transport Authoriy (TM) to fullfill the contractual obligations proposed during the bid for the new public transport reform. As a result of that, changes in routes or timetables are not permitted for a period of six months. The Routes, fares, timetables fall completely under the jurisdiction of the Malta Transport Authority and not of ARRIVA.
I hope that this information is helpful and still relevant to your query, if not do not hesitate to get back to us on either +356 21222000 or [email protected] with any queries.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Jessica Sciberras
ARRIVA Customer Care
Tel: (+356) 21222000
Web: www.arriva.com.mt
Email: [email protected]
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 20th 2011, 12:22
I think 748 comments in three weeks speak for themselves.
Mr Joseph DeGiovanni
Jul 20th 2011, 12:03
Yesterday, to get from Valletta to Zejtun took me from 19.30 till 21.00. Bus route number 81 left us waiting for its arrival for the best part of 45 minues. The other bus bays were continuously active with buses coming and going. It was not so with bus bay 11. Next there was a delay at the Marsa interchange. Last of all, because of the Paola feast, instead of going uphill past the Addolorata cemetry and straight on to Santa Lucija and tal-Barrani Road, we had to go through the narrow winding streets of Tarxien. Luckily I seldom ever have to use this route, but I pity the poor Zejtun people who have to undergo all this hassle every day. Such a large town as Zejtun definitely requires and deserves a much better service.
Warmer Libri
Jul 20th 2011, 11:18
I think the bus new system of Arriva in Malta is quite good however it requires alot of reaarangments and strict continous supervision of all aspects of the service; the drivers sometimes drive with high speed which incertain curved areas put the standing people at risk of falling; the priority of sitting is not respected so much by the poeple so I do not know if the drivers can interfer in this, the facilities of handicapped and elderly poeple to get in to the buses are not used at all by the drivers and as I have noticed the drivers do not seem to have a knowledge of how these facilities machinery work in the bus, ..ect). I am sure these aspects can be solved easily, wishing Arriva and all the poeple who use the public transport system all the best of luck.
Mr John Borg
Jul 19th 2011, 19:05
As you are aware Dr Joseph Brincat has filed a judicial protest against Transport Malta complaining against the "unreasonable Routes" which seem to be the major problem with the new bus service. Dr Brincat is receiving emails on the following email address [email protected] from disgruntled Arriva customers.
In this respect I would suggest that all those who have commented here will contact Dr Brincat on the email address provided.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110719/local/Lawyer-collecting-complaints.376233
anthony attard
Jul 19th 2011, 17:20
Biex ikun hemm fetha [ mhux xaqq ] ta dawl halli jitjieb it transport publiku iridu jitnehhew '' l-interchanges '' , il bendybuses jergaw jibatuhom lura ghax it-toroq taghna ma jifilhux ghall dawn it-tul ta buses, u li kellu fuq l-istonku haddiehor tah lilna, l-ahhar u mhux l-inqas u li kullhadd qed juri l-istess fhema hi li ir-rotot jergaw isiru kif kienu qabel u taraw kif jigi kollox ghan normal. Nitlob lil awtoritajit biex ma jkunux egoisti u jwebbsu rashom ghat talbit taghna ghax qedin ibatu hafna nies specjalment anzjani u ohrajn bi bzonnijit specjali. Grazzi u nispera li dawn il-kummenti ma jaqawx fuq widnejn torox.
JOSEPH VELLA
Jul 20th 2011, 17:07
Prosit Sur Attard fi ftit kliem spjegajt il-problema kollha. Dwar l-interchanges naħseb li dawn iktar ħasbu biex ma' jitkabrux is-suppost karozzi ġodda milli l-kumdita' tal-pubbliku
henry spiteri
Jul 19th 2011, 17:12
ROTTA 82 qed tahdem sewwa pero biex tmur il park and ride u tasal il belt tiehu average ta 13 il minuta extra biex jikkumpensa dat telf ta hin id driver irid izid fli speed li hi xi haga impossibbli
Noel Abela
Jul 19th 2011, 17:04
Let us not forget that the service should have started in January so when it did it was six months late. All this talk about the lack of drivers, although certainly effected the service, is nothing but crap. All the other problems that have nothing to do with drivers are Arriva's fault and just as the people of Malta had to pay a fine just because two ministers got it all wrong at Bizzaza Street, Arriva should be fined for not providing the service it had offered. Shame on the company that has so much experience in this field but which got it all wrong when it came to providing the service to a country as big as a small town in England.
Brian Gatt
Jul 19th 2011, 15:45
The most logical thing that should have been done is take over the service as it was using the same bus routes - changing only the buses and the drivers, then after you have enough data and experience you start implementing slowly new routes and setting up a target that within lets say a year all the new routes will be fully implemented.
It is understandable that in the beginning you will have teething problems and the problem here that these teething problems were spread out on all the service and it became uncontrollable. if only 1 route at a time the problem would have been localized and easily controlable!!!!
Stephen Koludrovic
Jul 19th 2011, 17:10
The guys in Arriva are not stupid.
They are not concerned about the discomforts of the commuters.
All they are interested in, is making as much money, with as few buses, and drivers as possible.
Anyway you look at it, 280 buses cannot better the frequency times of the 500 buses we had before.
John Mifsud
Jul 24th 2011, 17:58
well done Brian! You have my same toughts! Why on earth did Transport Malta did a complete fiasco of the routes? Im sure those who masterminded the routes have NEVER used the public transport! Ask the residents of Fgura, amongst many others, how cool it is to wait more than an hour to get the 91 bus for work!! Shame on those, who after 3 weeks, this problem hasnt been solved! Cant another 91 bus depart from Zabbar at the same time the other leaves Marsascala? is it such a big and imp[ossible task??? please solve our headaces now as we've had ENOUGH! John Mifsud
Mark Galea
Jul 19th 2011, 13:48
People should also contact Arriva's headquarters in the UK. Details below.
I suggest we ALL send an email to their main office, to show them how "happy" we are with their new service. Their email is [email protected]
The more we send, the better.
Details:
Registered Office:
Arriva plc
Admiral Way
Doxford International Business Park
Sunderland
SR3 3XP
Tel: +44 (0)191 520 4000
Fax: +44 (0)191 520 4001
E-mail: [email protected]
Mr Dave Smith
Jul 19th 2011, 15:53
Mark,yes, but with respect, will have little effect Bastow as is a protected species.
The real people to contact are he share holders of Deustche Bahn.
The holding company.
Charles Bugeja
Jul 19th 2011, 21:13
good point Mark - hereunder find the email I sent them
Hi,
I am from Malta and would like to pass some comments on the service you are providing over here. We were filled with high expectations regarding the new service from Arriva but I am sorry to tell you you have disappointed the whole nation. The old service we had is much better than your service. Routes have been so much lengtened that every trip takes you for a tour of Malta. I used to take 25 minutes before to arrive from Birzebbugia to valletta, now it is taking 45 minutes. Buses are not keeping their time and drivers do not know the roads buses have to pass through. It seems no proper training was given. Besides, many people are still confused how to use the new system. No proper advertising was done - only 3 leaflets were distributed for such a huge change. Your call centre staff do not have all the information to deal with customer complaints. Also, the bendy buses are not good for our roads as they are too large. Besides, they seem not to have enough power to go uphills.
I think what should be done is to keep the old routes for a period of time and than increase other routes gradually. The change was huge and not properly planned - either by you or Transport Malta.
Regards
Charles
Peter Spiteri
Jul 19th 2011, 12:51
Filwaqt li nemmen li r-rotot il-ġodda għandhom id-difetti tagħhom, l-aħjar ħaġa hi li niġġudikaw ir-rotot meta jibdew jaħdmu skont il-ħinijiet kif suppost, u meta s-sistema tal-IT tibda taħdem sew.
Josephine Mifsud
Jul 19th 2011, 14:12
Pero' n-nies se jibghqu jistennew fix-xemx, jistennew is-sighat biex imorru minn post ghal iehor, jitilfu l-appuntamenti l-isptar, imorru tard ghax-xoghol u jaqtghulhom mill-paga sakemm is-sistema tal-IT u l-hinijiet jibdew jahdmu kif suppost.....Ghaliex ma sarx planning tajjeb qabel???.....Jew ma kienux daqshekk pruzuntuzi li jaghmlu rotot godda meta l-anqas kien hemm buses daqs qabel....Ta' l-inqas izommu r-rotot li kien hemm qabel u jibdew ikunu fil-hin, mhux l-anqas hadd ma jaf fi x'hin tghaddi l-bus minn fuq kull bus stop li hawn Malta ghaliex tghaddi fi x'hin trid.....Possibbli haddddddddddd ma jista' at this point jirregola li jkun hemm hin li jitilqu l-buses minn kull post..............Veru ma nistax nifimha din.....din hi t-tielet gimgha u ghadu kollox l-istess u hawn nies veru qed ibaghtu. Pero' hadd mhu jaghmel xejn.....
Joe Scerri
Jul 19th 2011, 16:20
il-problema hija meta......
Freda Busuttil
Jul 21st 2011, 08:04
Meta?
Josephine Mifsud
Jul 19th 2011, 10:23
I would like to thank the Times of Malta for giving us the opportunity to write our comments, but I am sorry to say that this service is useless, since nobody from the Government side or from the Opposition is doing something. Kollox baqa' l-istess...Issa jew raqdu jew inkella marru holiday!
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 19th 2011, 11:18
Jew inkella ghaliex hekk jaqblilhom!!!!!!!!!!
Roberto Lacitignola
Jul 19th 2011, 09:25
Ho passato una vacanza ad attendere bus che non arrivavano, attesa fino 75 minuti, per non contare
la differenza di prezzo tra chi ha residenza a Malta e chi pur essendo europeo paga quasi il doppio,
vengono accusati i bar e ristoratori per questo sistema, adesso viene imposto anche dal ministero dei trasporti, a Malta non ci torno più. Enrico Mara
Kenneth Grima
Jul 19th 2011, 10:00
Sono andato in Sicilia ho passato una vacanza a piedi ho taxi perche bus non esistono affatto. Sono andato in musei e mio zio che e siciliano a comprato lui i biglietti perche se andavo io mi sciuppavano perche non ho residenza in Italia pur essendo Europeo. In italia non ci vado piu.
Mark Said
Jul 19th 2011, 09:14
Allow me to join the growing number of Arriva complainants.
My and my wife’s complaint is very simple: prior to the coming of Arriva, we, Msida University Heights residents had quite an efficient bus service. Just a three minute walk away from our home we had a bus stop on which various buses operating from outlying areas frequently stopped and boarded commuters heading towards Valletta. For the return trip home a sufficient number of buses used to drop off commuters residing in our area on the same bus stops such that in three minutes one used to walk comfortably home in winter or summer.
Now, things have drastically changed! Paying a hefty bus fare, we have a longer wait in the morning to commute to Valletta from one of the retained bus stop (about fifteen to twenty minutes), not to mention the frequency of buses passing by full up! To add insult to injury, there is to date no bus route serving and/or passing near University Heights for residents commuting back home from Valletta. The only option available is to catch a bus stopping down near the GWU Monument near Msida Parish Church and then having to walk some twenty minutes uphill to University Heights come rain or shine!
We feel that this is a huge retrograde step in this day and age when comfort and ease should be the order of the day, and that this newly designed bus route supposed to serve University Heights residents is highly and blatantly illogical, causing us tax-paying residents something nearing degrading and inhuman treatment!
We feel that we have been intentionally forgotten and relegated to Third World commuting citizens!
On to you now to take up also our cause and plight!
Thanks in advance and we wish you success in your endeavour and good luck!
Yours,
Mark and Elizabeth.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 19th 2011, 06:42
723 comments what a mess.
James Dewar
Jul 18th 2011, 20:45
Would it be tempting fate to imagine that today may end without reports of any new incidents or negative happenings in the ongoing "Arrivasaga"? Could it be that week three may see even the "Bendybuses" turning the corner? Lets all hope so!!
Raymond Michael Falzon
Jul 18th 2011, 20:27
I would like to invite ALL citizens of Malta, especially those we trust with leadership, the President, Prime Minister, Ministers and members of parliament, to use ARRIVA services now. Leaving your cars behind for a WEEK, pay the weekly bus fare, walk the distance to your closest bus stop, change at terminals, wait in our scorching sun for the next scheduled bus, air-conditioned or not. This would be of great benefit as leaders to feel the pulse of the people who elected you and trusted you in a leadership position. Surely you will all arrive with ARRIVA's new system on time for your scheduled appointments. Be one with us at this moment, we will be one with you at election time if you stand up with us and be counted to make our island a better place to live in.
John Mifsud
Jul 24th 2011, 18:08
Prosit! That will be the day! Perhaps we can see all 69 MPS protesting in parliament about Transport Malta's bog FLOP! John Mifsud
Secret Squirrel
Jul 18th 2011, 20:13
I think Arriva will have a perfect service very soon:
Most people seem to be on their high horses instead of the buses anyway.
Daniel Caruana
Jul 18th 2011, 20:05
Have been looking forward to the public transport reform but must say by the 3rd wk running has still been grossly disappointed. My daughter after planning a 2 times a wk trip using available printed and online info ; first wk had to resort me giving her a lift , once last wk managed to get from Zejtun to St Venera within just 2 hours, must say not very attractive to the new bus DISSERVICE! Surprisingly today her next bus on route 125 did not turn up at Hamrun Diego bus stop between 08:05 till 10:00 which is supposed to run every 00:30hr, notwithstanding confirmation by Arriva customer care that it would turn up within 10min. Mind you this circle route is the only one that goes to ex St Luke's and Psaila Str B'Kara, at which bus stop signs are not even yet complete. Local transport has been taken aback more than the odd 100 years, as for getting from here to there is taking longer than then, if getting there at all .
Henry S. Pace
Jul 18th 2011, 15:57
Whover put pen to paper to draw up the routes of the new Arriva does not appear that he was so acquainted to the country. From the onset he must have kept all previous routes and schedules AND THEN he would have extended new routes to the advantages of the commutor at large.
I wonder if ever the Local Councils showed any interest to discuss this new venture which has become a great flop.
Whoever did all this must resign from his administrative post because he let down the Minister of Transport.
E. Cardona
Jul 18th 2011, 19:29
It was one of the FRIENDS of FRIENDS Georg Sapiano who invented the magical routes and our money no problem government gave him 130,000 euros from the taxpayers pocket.
Steve Zammit
Jul 18th 2011, 14:58
I'm still missing Malta's Yellow buses (the buses not the service and drivers!!)
and please bring back the old routes!
Take a look at this tribute video....Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC_b0ZpIiIM
Ms T Scicluna
Jul 18th 2011, 14:50
consult with local councils as they would have had feedback from residents for sure (hmmmmm) routes do need revising: circular bus from mscala through to zabbar to birgu perhaps revise this within 124 route,
and 91 definately needs to go up triq il qaliet and round to st thomas and back to village and onwards. otherwise good job!
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 19th 2011, 18:59
Well said Ms Scicluna! My mother used to get no 17 Bus from near Jerma Hotel to go to daily mass and also to get to Zabbar and Valletta, now Triq is Salini isn't even on the Bus route and the Bus shelters are empty - and this when Siberia San Tumas areas are the largest areas in Marsascala, again i ask where is the Marsascala Local Council now that it should open it's mouth and protest on behalf of residents - is it fast asleep??
Carmel Carabott
Jul 18th 2011, 14:28
Am I wrong to say that UK holders of our equivalent "Karta Anzjan" travel free on at least London Transport? In case why this fuss and talk of breaking EU laws for charging more to non local residents?
Mr Paul Caruana
Jul 18th 2011, 12:39
From the comments below, it would appear that well before the next revision of the bus routes, due in a few months time, Transport Malta and Arriva need to go through a painstaking process of meeting several local councils individually - I am referring to those areas where complaints have been especially high, with people bemoaning the routes on old system as actually being superior to the new ones.
It is time for people to stop pointing fingers on one hand, and put their pride aside on the other! Hopefully, following a number of these meetings, new routes would be drawn up to alleviate the problems that the new system appears to have created in some areas.
John Zammit
Jul 18th 2011, 11:50
On Saturday I spent a day at Mellieha Bay and could not help noticing the number of Arriva Buses going to and from Cirkewa. They were coming through in intervals of I would say less that 10 minutes in between. I am sure that nobody could have complained about waiting on a bus stop anywhere on that route.
The only problem is that the amount of people in them wasn't more that a dozen tops in each one of them
May I ask , Is it necessary for so many buses to go through this route when the Gozo ferry leaves every 45 minutes? Is it not a waste of fuel and man power on the driver's side who can be doing some other route instead? I think one should consider other priorities first
Jonathan Camilleri
Jul 18th 2011, 11:46
I was waiting for the implementation of the newly reformed transport service managed by Arriva to settle down a bit before making any judgements, as I was expecting initial issues, which I believe were posted in social media.
Unfortunately I lost a job since my previous employer told me I was going late to work, and, although he was correct - yet the decision was quite irrational; I have to point out that this was not in my control given the traffic jam in Qormi, and, although not within the control of Arriva Malta, Transport Malta should look into ways of hastening traffic jams within industrial areas, and, in roads where traffic jams up as people are on their way to their office, or, taking their kids to school.
Does Arriva Malta provide any direct routes from residential areas to industrial areas, at times that are suitable for employees to arrive punctually at work (e.g. 06:00 to 07:00 up to the shift hours commonly assigned within industrial and manufacturing environments)?
Does it provide such people with advantageous rates, given that they would use transport on a regular basis in replacement of private cars, and, thus contributing to the reduction of CO2 emissions, and, hopefully even traffic jams? I am confident that Dr. Augustino Gatt or Dr. Gonzi or their delegates will be monitoring the acheivement of this EU-imposed target, and, this will help.
How does Arriva Malta seek to manage and ensure that its employees are adequately rewarded, by way of Praise Management, and, at the same time, manage its operations? I am confident that overall the improvement will be positive, but, we have to wait, because changes take a while given the various complexities involved in managing them.
I would like to express my gratitude to Arriva Malta, for putting up a journey planner on their website, www.arriva.com.mt, because it is very helpful for telecommuters.
Finally, does Arriva Malta provide a cash prize for all the useful and practical suggestions generated over the last month by the Maltese public? I think it would be a nice public relations exercise that will surely be welcomed by the Maltese Government.
H Agius
Jul 18th 2011, 10:42
Yesterday my son waited from 7.30 to 11.00 at Senglea terminus and there were no buses , people called Arriva customer care , He had to fork out 18 euros for a taxi to go to work ! this is the 4th time since Arriva took over ! Something should be done , Cant go late to work !
Mario Desira
Jul 18th 2011, 10:06
I agree with Ms Attard. 'Mirakli' (miracles) is the correct word as it seems one needs a miracle to get the service that should be routine. Another example, today Qrendi terminus bus which supposedly departs 0700 turned up 0715. Add another 10 mins in the airport traffic jam and late for work as usual. After three weeks Arriva finds it difficult for a 0700 bus to leave at 0700. Some time management! The only time I went to work on time in three weeks is when a driver came early and left early at 0650!
Unbeliveable!
Yvonne Attard
Jul 18th 2011, 01:12
I live in B'kara and if I want to go to Lija near the tal-Mirakli church I have to get the bus number 106 and stop somewhere where the ex 40 bus terminus used to be. The problem is, that its very rare to spot a 106 bus and so I prefer walking for 35 minutes and go on foot. This bus is supposed to have a frequency of 15 to 30 minutes. I just wish we had the old route of bus number 40 back.
Joanna Camilleri
Jul 17th 2011, 21:33
the problem with arriva is that the routes were better off as they were and shouldnt have been messed about in the northern side of malta, i am referring to st pauls bay. with the old bus's i use to get to valletta in 20min in the morning, getting the 6.45am bus and be in valletta very early like 7.15 maximum 7.30am.
we had 3 other more numbers not just 41 like it now is, i never waited more then 15min in the valletta terminus for the bus and the bus's use to be completely packed.
arriva came along and on saturday the 16th of july i waited in the valletta bus terminus in the sun for 1 hour 15min for one bus, being roasted in the sun and frustration starts to build up, old people getting sick because of all the heat. i saw an old lady at one point she started to cry. how could it be this bad??
why is there only 1 bus every half an hour to chirkewwa? we barley got along the way we were which bus's left every 15min
and only the bus which is 41??
for me to get to valletta in the morning i have to be on the stage at 6am and be in valletta at 7.30 what a joke. that has never happened before. more bus's not one every half a damn hour. st pauls bay, bugibba, qawra etc is a very populated area so please take this into consideration.
arriva i only have one word for you "disaster"
then again i was thinking not to buy a car!
pfffffff how wrong was i to even think that.
bring the old bus's back. arriva pack ur bags and go home.
the only thing good the company has is the ac the bus's provide, uniforms etc.
ridiculous!
Mr Matthew Pace
Jul 18th 2011, 10:33
I am agreed with Joanna Camilleri. It is only thing good the company has is the AC, uniforms, etc.
Jairo Mifsud
Jul 18th 2011, 12:47
There is bus route 11 that leaves valletta every 30 minutes....
The Difference between leaving times is every 15 minutes so every 15 minutes leaves a bus for cirkewwa
Jeffrey Bonanno
Jul 19th 2011, 10:59
@ Jairo Mifsud
With route 41 you spend a wasted 30 minutes sight seeing Bugibba and Qawra and with route 11 you spend a wasted 30 minutes sight seeing Bugibba and Qawra and another wasted 20 minutes sight seeing Sliema and St. Julians area. People from Mellieha, Xemxija etc. have no other alternatives except to waste time going round the island to arrive at Valletta. Is that the efficiency that we were promised? Far from it.....
J Borg
Jul 17th 2011, 16:23
Is there an agenda for the south of the Island?
I can confirm that i did not see an 82 bus today , i stayed on the stage ( the one before Georges's bay ) and there were no buses passing by from the time 11.15am to 12 noon
A Caruana
Jul 17th 2011, 19:04
The South of Malta is always forgotten, just take a close look at the Bus schedules and we will all see that some areas are more than comfortable with the new routes while in the South everyopne is complaining because the new routes have been made worse not better for us. Take Marsascala , Zabbar and Fgura having to share one bus and to add salt to the wound Bus 91 doers not even go aroun d the village but only to the Terminus from Zabbar. People who know how big is Marsaskala will know that this is untenable..
Chris Galea
Jul 18th 2011, 10:43
Mr. J Borg, I do feel your pain because I share it. However, when I catch the bus its either from Naxxar or Iklin. In both localities the service is rubbish especially when compared to the previous one. I've waited longer than an hour for a bus that as advertised should be running every 10 mins. Catching the bus from Floriana is impossible so I have to walk to Valletta in order to catch a bus. Trust me the lack off service offered by Arriva affects the whole Island and not just the south of Malta.
A Caruana
Jul 17th 2011, 14:29
Marsaskala in the south of Mlta is not well served with the Bus service as provided by Arriva nd planned by the 380000 euros expenditure by Trasport Malta because Bus no 91 is not passing from near Cerviola Hotel in Trieq il Qaliet like the old 17, 19 and 20 Buses, now we can go to Zejtun, and Airport many times but not to Valletta or Zabbar or Birgu. We want the old routes back, you have wasted 380000 euros on the routes, whoever took the money and planned routes 119 and 124 only did the routes on the map because no one frequents these areas, a couple of buses daily would have been enough, Bus no 119 should be changed to go to Valletta not t to Zejtun. nOT EVEN THE bUS STOPS ARE SPELT CORRECTLY LIKE GIRGAL instead of GRIGAL, not even the timetabkles are fixed on many Bus stops, oh wait i forgot, we have the Prime Minister and President are living in Marsaskala but these travel with private car, they dont care about those with no car.
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 19th 2011, 19:04
Prosit A Caruana! It is a fact of life that:
Marsascala is not at all well served with the new routes as designed by Transport Malta, a simple short term solution would be to have Bus no 91 go into Triq is Salini from Marina Street and out through triq il Qaliet back to the Terminus, at least as a temporary measure this would solve a lot of problems for residents in this area.
James Dewar
Jul 17th 2011, 13:18
Two weeks today I consolled a bus driver at Buggiba terminus who, half way through his first shift, was distraught, mentally and physically exhausted and obviously very upset at not being able to provide the service he had been trained to give due to circumstances far beyond his control. Much has happened since then and the volume of correspondence to opinion columns shows no sign of decreasing.
As the air temperature rises so it seems does the volatility of the travelling public who are being directly affected. There is little doubt that Arriva (and disappointingly, TM) have been caught out by inadequate planning and many wrong or inaccurate assumptions which have produced a shambolic 14 days with a service that bears no resemblance to what was promised.
The task was enormous and, whilst some inexcuseable mistakes have been made, even with the highest level of planning and cooperation from those involved it was never going to happen overnight or even in 14 days!
Arriva have been guilty of setting unrealistic deadlines for improvements "by the end of the week" etc when it was obvious that there was little or no possibility of that being achieved. 14 days is an unrealistically short period in which to completely change the public transport infrastructure of the Maltese islands. However Arriva and TM (and don't forget silent partnmer Tumas) must now be given direction from Government with realistic and achievable deadlines as to what is expected of them with clearly defined sanctions should they fail to comply.
If they are still unable to provide a satisfactory bus service (the travelling public will be the judges of that) within two months of commencing operations then the Government must take control and do whatever is necessary.
The temperature in this debacle is rising and one can clearly see that the tone of many opinion postings is becoming more aggressive and personal. Let's not make what is undoubtedly a bad situation any worse by detracting from the main theme by over personalising the issues and instead exert continued pressure on those responsible to resolve the main issues (THE ROUTE NETWORK AS A PRIORITY) at the earliest possible opportunity.
Don't shoot the messenger (in this case the driver) and don't be provoked into futile unproductive confrontation with them on buses as, with very few exceptions, they are doing their level best in very difficult circumstances.
kim reid
Jul 17th 2011, 11:26
tGood morning
thank you for your reply,so your position is, simply the correct fares are prayed by non residents in malta, and residents are discounted due to the government subsidy. So this does' not constitute discrimination.
I will outline, again why i and many others disagree, and finish this correspondence with you.
1 Definition of discrimination, favoring or disadvantaging one group or person over the other.
2 your fares advertisement clearly show the lower tariff, as the main fare, and not as a subsidized rate,
3 ID card, are no proof or ether residence in malta or tax payer in malta,( maltese government lay on chartered flight during elections, in recognition of this fact, so non residents with maltese id cards can vote.
4 what equation, could you possible use, to calculate the fare reduction for subsidy to resident from in regard to trips made and by numbers of the two section that you are calculating on. its more than likely you worked backward from the minimal profit you require, and than adjusted tariffs accordingly.
5 in term of tourist not contributing to the maltese tax revenue (and thus not qualifying for the lower fare) i would imagine the taxes they pay pro rota is possible more than a resident.
6 no other national public transport system ( trains, tube, airlines buses) use a 2 tier system. this is not because the companies operating them, do not see the profit advantages , but because of the laws governing peoples rights particularly in regard to monopolistic service such as the one you try to run in Malta
7 your system has major flaws, what stop people getting day or week tickets from authorized, or unauthorized venders at the lower fare and giving or even selling them( at a higher price, could be a nice little earner for someone)
i think this outline must of my issues in regard to your tariff system.
i will state that on Saturday, i was not asked for ID card, and nore did i pay the discrinmitory rate. in regard to the below statement, which you have attached to the e mail. this is a communication between, a member of the public, there are no copyright or intellectual property right, in regard to these communications, and i reserve the right (which i have already exercised) to print ,copy, paste or transmit to any one i see fit to
good day and best regards
Mr Kim Reid
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:38:21 +0200
I apologize for the late reply,
Unfortunately you are correct when stating that the reduced fares are not permanent however 'soon' is relative as the change shall happen after a number of years as stated in the contract between Transport Malta and Arriva.
While it should be the norm that drivers ask for an ID card (and it is strictly meant to be an ID Card, not a passport, or a photocopy, but an ID card), it is not currently always the case, however, the drivers are being reprimanded for their behaviour.
With regards to legality, as stated in one of your previous emails' attachments, it is not discriminatory for the fares to be 'higher' for non-residents as it is in fact the case that the fares are lower (subsidized) for residents.
I hope that you find my answer to be satisfactory,
Thanks & Best Regards,
Ryan Ruggier
ARRIVA Customer Care
o the ministry of transport
Secret Squirrel
Jul 18th 2011, 20:03
...I never thought I'd see the day that somebody would argue to pay MORE for a service they do not enjoy using.
Stop moaning.
Jo Azzopardi
Jul 17th 2011, 10:38
I Like the colour and shape of the new buses!!!!!!!!!
As for the service still lacking in many ways.
The southern part of Malta(Birzebbugia, Ghaxaq, Marsaxlokk, Marsascala & Gudja) was better off with the older buses.
Hopefully they will give better service in the future, at least that's what I keep hearing.
steve padley
Jul 17th 2011, 09:25
Having visited Malta for the past 22 years and used the national bus service it is with regret that I learn that yet another part of Maltas hertiage has been lost to the power of the E.U.Having spoken to many locals the power of E.U. money is distroying the appeal of Malta.
Mr Paul Caruana
Jul 17th 2011, 10:05
Let us not try to confuse issues here.......the EU had nothing to do with this! Rather, the responsibility falls on Transport Malta and Arriva whose ideas for a radical reform of the system have up to now been, shall we say, less than successful.
Joseph Attard
Jul 16th 2011, 20:32
Arriva are here to stay and all the moaning in the world will not change this. So let s work together for better routes, faster routes, butone step has been made for sure, once youre in an Arriva Bus, youre a human being!
TM should of course forget any kind of penalties and move on. Changing a whole transport system overnight was only Austin s dream. He well knew it could not be an overnight success. But then again phasing in such systems is also not the right solution. So now that weve made a tremendous step, let s work on ironing out the system. But let s face......the shabby old image is gone and were working on abus service that is as avant garde as anywhere in the world
Mr Raymond Milford
Jul 16th 2011, 19:43
On balance too much change to an existing service in too short a time scale. Management, that is now
observed as unable to organise a session at Farson's brewery, should have taken a slower step by step
approach when wishing to change an existing structure. However are there ulterior motives behind the
present chaos such as a move to increase fares or provide a more limited service in order to increase
profit?
James Dewar
Jul 17th 2011, 00:29
Raymond, I agree with most of what you say particularly re the pace of change being far too quick. However, I would take issue with your suggestion that there is an ulterior motive and that it will impact on fares and the standard of service. To create that agenda would require a degree of forward thinking and planning and from what we have seen so far Arriva and TM are clearly unable to do either!!
kim reid
Jul 17th 2011, 06:40
spot on
Paul Portelli
Jul 16th 2011, 19:30
in DISSET program on TVM the minister said he is going to go in this mater.he did and i congratulate him.he got the old buses out.........Where are the fines that Arriva are suppose to get for the efficient service they are giving?
if it was a Maltese that parks badly of stop on a yellow line there is no pity by the government u get a ticket so as Maltese we want to know whats happening on this MR Minister
Keith Vella Licari
Jul 16th 2011, 17:37
Took route 116 from central Sliema (Huber) to the Point (Tigne). I was two minutes late on the (Huber) stage but the bus was running 5 minutes late so I only waited for 3 minutes. Arrived at the Point in no time - so far so good... I did my shopping and went to the Tigne stage again with the aim of taking the 116 again to central Sliema. I waited for over an hour (mind you the frequency should be every 15 minutes on Saturdays) in the scorching sun to no avail. I then walked down two stages (carrying heavy bags) and found the 116 bus quietly parked in front of the Ferries stage. An Arriva representative kindly informed me that no driver was available to take the bus round its route! I ended up having to walk home (still carrying heavy bags). To cut a long story short - I was pleasantly surprised and greatly disappointed in one sunny afternoon. What was I thinking? Next time I'll take the car!
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 16th 2011, 20:40
Yes Mr. Vella Licari, we are already using our private cars again.
Until Transport Malta, as the contractor for Public Transport, sorts out this mess, Arriva will continue to lose patronage.
Mr Paul Caruana
Jul 16th 2011, 16:22
What about the up and coming Car Free Sunday?
Sometime in September, I believe. And believe me, if Arriva wouldn't have sorted out their issues by them, it will certainly be a Sunday to remember (or forget)!
simeon nechev
Jul 16th 2011, 15:10
I mainly find the service ok, the only problem are the routes which are too long and complex and I'm sure the whole of Malta and Gozo have been saying the same thing.
Victor Rodenas
Jul 16th 2011, 10:14
They are dirty ,...it is against the law,...I know, I`ve got a ticket for that.
Mr Paul Borg
Jul 16th 2011, 09:38
I was under the impression that for the first six months no route would be touched. The 64 bus into Swieqi has become a nightmare. For the imformation of Arriva the two bus ride now takes one and a half hours to complete from a mere 40 minutes. Also in Valletta 34 parking places have been removed from Melita street and South street to accomodate easy access for the arriva bus. My restaurant is in South street and so far in 5 days I have seen the bus 2 tmes only . There must be an agenda to hinder business in the city.
kim reid
Jul 16th 2011, 08:53
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From: Arriva Customer Services ([email protected])
Sent: Fri 7/15/11 7:54 PM
To: Miriam Reid ([email protected])
Good Evening Ms. Reid,
Unfortunately this is not the case due to the fact that, if the tickets were not subsidized by local tax money (which is not a permanent circumstance), Maltese residents too would have to pay the full fares.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Ryan Ruggier
ARRIVA Customer Care
Tel: (+356) 21222000
Web: www.arriva.com.mt
Email: [email protected]
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Miriam Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
Good evening
thank you for your prompt reply, your pricing structure is discrimitory, (a) a person can have a maltese id card, and not be resident or paying tax in malta. (b)the price you now charge, over double previous fare, i am sure leaves little to subsidize by the tax payer(ME) particularly taken into account the large reduction in routes and services. also considering at nearly four times the cost to ALIENS, from two weeks ago.
even though i am against this discrimination, i wil carry with me my passport and my last years tax forms, if all you are concerned with ensuring only tax payers get one tier this should be enough.
I WONDER IF TAXI DRIVER FOLLOWED THE SAME LOGIC, BY SAYING, ID CARD HOLDER WITH DRIVING LICENSES,PAYED ONE FARE, AND THOSE WITHOUT PAYED DOUBLE, BASED ON THE ARGUMENT THAT AS THE ID /DRIVING LICENSE HOLDER PAYES ROAD TAX, AND THE ALIEN DOES NOT, HE SHOULD CONTRIBUTE, THROUGH THE TAXI DRIVER. WE ALL KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO HIM DO WE NOT
YOURS RESPECTFULLY
MR KIM REID
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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:54:57 +0200
Subject: Re: two teir price discrimination
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Good Evening Ms. Reid,
The reason for which non-residents are to pay more is that local taxes are used to subsidize the fares. This however should not be the case for you as you say you have been living here for the last 17 years. all you would need to present is a Maltese ID Card (this includes those with an (A) as a suffix). This is a measure taken to ensure proper ticketing and also applies for Maltese residents.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Ryan Ruggier
ARRIVA Customer Care
Tel: (+356) 21222000
Web: www.arriva.com.mt
Email: [email protected]
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Miriam Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
i have just complained, by phone to your customer care. about being asked to pay more for a journey because i did not have a id card. you will have a full report from customer care.
please see above attachment. tommorrow i will board a bus, and i will offer the correct fare for the trip, i will not pay,double the fare, because i am english, i have lived here for 17 years, payed my tax, never taking any thing out of the system and will not be treated as a cash cow to be discriminated against., i will be polite, but will not leave the bus, until, i arrive at destination,
if a supermarket or restaurant. asked for a id card, and than charged the foreigner double, there would be legal repercussion, for that company.
please reply
Mr kim reid
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Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 15th 2011, 23:57
Jekk ghal-Milied ser tmur ghal-ikla bl'Arriva ibda ahseb minn issa.
kim reid
Jul 15th 2011, 22:10
today i was asked for my ID card. it was the first time since the new service began, and the first time myself and freinds have heard of it being asked for. i am english married to maltese living and paying tax in malta for near on 20 years. i got on the bus at St juillians asked for a 1.30euro ticket, and was asked for identity. after refusing to show identity and stateing dual pricing was not allowed under EU laws regarding discriminatory dual pricing. the driver was polite but would not move the bus, i stated to get an inspector or call the police, as i would not pay above the standard fare. in the end i had to get of the bus due to threats of voilence from a number of british tourist . i got on the next bus , was not asked for idenity, and payed standard fare.
when i got home i complained to arriva custermer care, all very polite but no explaination of why two tier discrimination.
after a number of e mails this evenning after stating argument like if shop charged double to aliens it would be clamped down on, only arguyment that i have got from them in my drafts on e mail,is, SUBSIDY THAT THE TAX PAYER IS MAKING TO ARRIVA IS SHORT TERM, AND THEN EVERYONE WILL BE PAYING THE DISCRMITORY SECOND TIER FARE
tommorrow i will agan be travilling by public transport and agan i will refuse to be discrimunated against
Claire Busuttil
Jul 15th 2011, 22:03
Some things that I noticed-
Mater Dei, has become a hub, which shouldn`t be so. A hospital should be a relaxed enviornment not a chaotic one, like it is now!
The Zabbar route is working well on the whole.
The Sliema front one, from Valletta is ok, but for the return, all buses pass full up
Drivers are smart and polite.....please keep it up.
Some Drivers should get more training on driving though, especially for the stopping part!!
The possibilty for wheelchair bound ppl of using them...is good finally
SunShades in Valletta, are a blessing, before we used to stay in the burning sun
AC is a bliss
All drivers should ALL be speaking Maltese
Attard triq il pitkali, which is a main road is only served by bus number 106.....going to Mater Dei
There are many routes that were badly planned by Transport Malta
A Caruana
Jul 17th 2011, 14:22
The wied il Ghajn route is a disater as not the largest areas in the whole village have the bus 91 to Valletta, from near Cerviola Hotel where i live i have to walk to the terminus to go to Valletta, or wait 30 minutes or more for 135 to Terminus, wait again for Bus 91 maybe after 2 hours i arrive at my destination. Is this fair Mr Gatt and trasport Malta? Maybe instaed of wasting that € 380,000 on this routes you could at least have given consideration to the areas involved and the number of resients in each area. Mela sewwa Bus no 119 is always empty to M'Xlokk and for Valletta we do not have a decent Bus service, this is totally stupid.
Martin Attard
Jul 15th 2011, 21:53
Just heard that ARRIVA are going to change their name, it will sound like before, but will really portray their service so far....it will be called ERR IVA, because that's what they did so far....ERR.
Can't wait for next Monday to arrive......
Mr Andrew Scicluna
Jul 15th 2011, 20:54
Till know the only positive thing is the end of black shoot from the old busses and the air-condition systems in new busses.
Till know the transport at xajghra & zabbar is still not reliable sometimes you wait more then one hour for the bus to come totaly out off schedule.
The bus driver has to take care of tickets for every passenger boarding the bus.
Trafic jams in the rush hours putting bus out of schedule because no alternative routes available.
Long routes ,big busses running with small number of passengers,
We are forced using our vehicles to arive to our destination because the transport is still not reliable.
Claire Busuttil
Jul 15th 2011, 21:43
to zabbar is fine
cettina portelli
Jul 18th 2011, 18:09
yes, mr scicluna, i undersand you so well. we, the people of bormla and birgu are having a nightmare trying to get to work on time. the first bus from xghajra, the no..3 is supposed to arrive in bormla at 0610. it has never arrived earlier than 0635 and sometimes later. this means that the people from xghajra must sit on a bus for at least an hour till they get to valetta!!! does this make sense? plus, the no.2 bus which is SUPPOSED to depart from cottonera at 0550hrs HAS NEVER EVER SHOWED UP ON TIME. sometimes it arrives 30minutses late sometimes NOT AT ALL. how are we supposed to get to work at 7.00am if we have been given such a shoddy service? ive seen people in tears waiting for a bus due to pure frustration!!!
Maurice Cini
Jul 15th 2011, 19:56
I would like to know when we are going to have a decent Transport Service with respected times on schedule.I am referring to BUS no 3 to Xghajra via Kalkara because now you have REMOVED the bus Valletta to Kalkara and vice versa. Can you please also tell us WHY you have removed this service from passing through St.Liberata street which has also a developement area, As a NON-Driver person WITHOUT any car I ask for an immediate answer,without any apologies, because now ALL MALTA is FED UP with the kind of service rendered regarding times and routes.
Thanks Maurice Cini
Ms Lina CARUANA
Jul 15th 2011, 19:26
The bus service has good points which are being overlooked until we get used to them. The faults lie in the personnel who create confusion when the route or information are misleading. If express buses are introduced with different numbers one can make his own choice. Changing buses may serve people better because they link more destinations together. Fares are good and it seems there are more commuters. The greatest fault is that there are long routes when one does not need them but definitely useful at other times.
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 15th 2011, 21:19
I would not say that the fares are exceptional, but on my part I would not mind paying that little bit extra for direct quick routes.
How is it that before the blind change there was no survey of the amount of passangers using particular routes. This was not a case of sampling, but of a full study and evaluation.
James Dewar
Jul 15th 2011, 18:06
Halcrow, Arriva, Transport Malta and Tumas (conspicuously silent Maltese consortium partners) it is not yet too late to collectively put your hands up and graciously admit that, despite the pre launch propoganda and promises culminating in the glittering launch on Saturday 2nd July, you have all got it badly wrong! Reasons at this stage are almost irrelevant but please have the courage to admit your collective failings, apologise for one last time and start listening to the advice from those that know what was needed to bring the bus service up to an acceptable standard. We are talking buses here, not rocket science!! Just listen and act accordingly. There will be much less shame for you in that than if you persist in trying to make a patently unworkable system work! Where do you start?........ THE ROUTES!
Mr Joe B Edwards
Jul 15th 2011, 17:29
The new bus service? A flop - even on Arrivas part (electronics of bus)
alfred seguna
Jul 15th 2011, 16:28
It is a pity that every thing we do goes wrong and at what a price.I believe that it is true there was a need for improvement but I think what is wrong on this Island is that the wrong people with no idea on the subject starts leading and these people are always politically chosen. What was wrong to try to involve some who had previous experience in running this sector.I am sure that their contribution could have been valuable and not put somebody to plan something with no idea at all.The only qualification that counts is the color of the individual on this Island.
Joe Azzopardi
Jul 15th 2011, 13:30
Mr Brincat has found the most exact words to describe the current public transport situation: “This was so unreasonable that no reasonable person would have thought it out”. The quality and level of the service are simply ridiculous. I was particularly adversely hit by the new system as I live in Senglea and work in Floriana. It is a known fact that the buses form the south, particularly from the Cottonera Area are simply hopeless. While in Floriana parking has become impossible since Arriva usurped the Park and Ride facility. It is simply hopeless. Mr Brincat has all my support!!!
Joe Azzopardi
Jul 15th 2011, 13:28
Mr Brincat has found the most exact words to describe the current public transport situation: “This was so unreasonable that no reasonable person would have thought it out”. The quality and level of the service are simply ridiculous. I was particularly adversely hit by the new system as I live in Senglea and work in Floriana. It is a known fact that the buses form the south, particularly from the Cottonera Area are simply hopeless. While in Floriana parking has become impossible since Arriva usurped the Park and Ride facility. It is simply hopeless. Mr Brincat has all my support!!!
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 15th 2011, 11:55
665 comments at this point in time.
Why complain? The great oracle had dictated to remove the busses from Valletta, for very ulterior motives. So SHUT UP and admit that no one can oppose the great almighty who is spending more millions than have ever been spent before.
Roderick Abdilla
Jul 15th 2011, 10:33
I have one comment to say about the bus route 201 which starts its voyage towards Bahrija from Zurrieq. this bus route is rarely being used by the citizens and instead of this route I think it would be better if we had a direct bus route towards Mater Dei. It would hit two birds with 1 stone: it would serve the people and earn more profit for Arriva since if the bus 201 is not being used, fuel is being used for nothing; and the environment is being polluted
Chantelle Mifsud
Jul 15th 2011, 10:05
At first i thought maybe until they settle a bit but i can assure you it s the worst bus service ever ... from buggiba s square there s no bus stop which goes to valletta everyone had to walk for the bus station .yest .
And the worst thing ... dispatchers .. - the bus had to wait until they are ready .. 3 more minutes ...waste of time ... just keep on moving like before ..
Mr Christian Cassar-Torregiani
Jul 15th 2011, 10:04
I think the Minister, the ADT and Arriva were too over-confident in this saga and transforming the bus service literally overnight was more wishful thinking than anything else.
The Japanese have a fantastic word for which the West does not even have a direct translation for : KAIZEN. A loose translation is "incremental continuous improvement" and this contrasts greatly with the "Command and Control" philosophy of the West where big projects are implemented at one go, many times with devastating results (as has happened in the Arriva experience).
Another particular question being asked by many is why are we spending hundreds of millions of public funds to upgrade Valletta while concurrently reducing access to our city, firstly by making it impossible to arrive there by car, and now by eliminating the great majority of bus routes that used to interchange at City Gate, thereby greatly reducing the number of commuters who would have access to Valletta.
If the government wants to revive Valletta this is certainly not the way to do it, all businesses across the board are being negatively affected and this will certainly affect the likelihood of private investment in our City.
Donna Parnis
Jul 15th 2011, 09:58
Last night I was at the bus stop in Attard waiting for the 51, 52, or 53 supposed to be every ten minutes I waited from 6.55 to 7.40 the bus then came with standing room only. 4 arriva buses had passed with no number on in the meantime. The buses are nice, the drivers pleasent but the staff in Valletta dont seem to know what is going on as everytime you ask a question you get the reply "I dont know" Maybe by next year things will improve,
Mr Anthony Mifsud
Jul 15th 2011, 09:57
bring back the old transport system except the buses!
M Muscat
Jul 15th 2011, 09:47
People living at Ballut, Golden Bay, do not have any bus service. We have to walk to the bus stop near the Radisson in order to take a bus to Valletta- app 25 minutes walk. We use the public transport everyday, and our children use it to go to school every day in the winter days. they cannot take mobile phones to school with them so i would not know when they arrived to go pick them up. There is no pavement for us to walk on in order to reach the bus stop, we have to walk on the side of the main road which is deserted with cars, especially in summer. Other than that there are no lights in the main road and in order for some of us living here to go home after work, especially in the winter days, will have to walk in the dark because there is no road lights. Before we used to have a bus stop 3 mins away from home which was very convient for our small community. The place where we live is called Ballut. There is a bus stop in Golden Bay named Ballut, but it is installed near Riviera Beach. The place there is not called Ballut so there may be the possibility that the bus stop must have been installed near our previous bus stop but instead was misplaced. we called TM & Arriva several times however no action was taken and said that they will look into it. Hopefully they will find a solution and will re-install the bus stop as it was before. even though we are a small community of around 25 persons, still it does not make us indifferent than others having no public transport at all, especially when considering that half of us use public transport on a daily basis.
Thanks
M Muscat
Jul 15th 2011, 11:00
I have a mistake. There is a population of around 50 people not 25.
Carl Debono
Jul 15th 2011, 09:20
They could have left the routes as they were before and upgrade the buses (with aircon)and the drivers' politeness plus introduce direct buses to Sliema etc etc
Mr J Curmi
Jul 15th 2011, 08:40
It can only improve. Barring the initial problems that are being ironed out, it is by far a superior service when it comes to the vehicles themselves eg airconditioning, compliant to emissions regulations, safety, improved standards of driving, observing the rules of the road, keeping to the left-hand side of the road at all times.....no doubt there are more benefits......it can only improve.
Mark Galea
Jul 15th 2011, 10:00
Sure, as a sight seeing tour, it can only improve.
But for those who need the service, it is only a time waster.
Come next September/October when the real traffic starts, and more people start using their cars, one will see what this improvement will be.
John Bencini
Jul 15th 2011, 08:31
It used to take me 10 minutes with a direct bus from Psaila Street to Valletta. Now it takes more than an hour as the direct link to Valletta has been cancelled and I have to take a bus back to Mater Dei and wait for another bus to take me to Valletta. Absolute nonsense. The people who proposed these new routes are to be sacked!!
Josephine Mifsud
Jul 15th 2011, 08:26
Can Arriva tell us the time schedule of buses because nobody knows at what time the bus arrives near each bus stage. There exists a schedule but the buses do not follow it at the moment. You have to wait for a very long time (it can be half an hour, an hour or more) and then maybe a bus arrives. As least the bus route 71 is like that. Nobody knows the time schedule! Can Arriva arrange this please and inform the public at what time the buses leave the terminus, so that at least we will know the time to wait at the bus stop. I can assure you that it is a very difficult time for those persons who do no own a car and have to use the public transport. Hope this will be settled soon! Arriva... ma quando Arriva???
Carmel Bartolo
Jul 15th 2011, 00:45
Rotta tal-linja 169 (il-qadima)
Suggerimen: Ir-rotta tal-linja l-qadima 169 kienet qed taqdi lin-naha ta' Paris u is-Swatar b'mod tajjeb. Kien jonqosha biss xi irtokki bhal hinijiet ftit izjed spissi u xi stejgis ohra. Kienet tghaqqad Ta Paris, is-Swatar, L-Isptar Mater Dei , l-Universita, tal-Qroqq, l-Imsida, il-Pieta, il-Floriana u l-Belt Valletta. Inhoss li r-rotta l-gdida 110 tal-Arriva kienet tkun ahjar kieku nhadmet fuq li kien hemm u rfinatu kif ghedt izjed 'il fuq.
Rotta 110 tal-Arriva.
Godfrey Brincat
Jul 14th 2011, 20:31
Routes from Birzebbugia to Valletta No. 82 needs to be change as it is taking 1hour 15 mins When it should take not more then 45 mins. Hope that things will get better.
Michael Mercieca
Jul 14th 2011, 19:35
In a couple of months Arriva will be operating satisfactorily and all we ll ne forgotten. They are leaders in transportation in many parts of the world. It should be easy for them on our little island. Had they not had the drivers hiccup things might have turned out differently
Joe Micallef
Jul 14th 2011, 15:22
It is chaotic at present but ARRIVA will succeed and it is already showing
Like all new systems commissioning may seem easy on paper but once launched deficiencies start coming to the fore and at this point hell is inevitably let loose!!
Does any one recall Heathrow Terminal 5 in the UKthe disruption to the aviation sector it caused on commissioning until all the issues where ironed out -eventually?
I rarely used the now thankfully defunct old bus system-I felt angry as a commuter then, being treated as trash by many of the drivers I had the misfortune to hand them the bus fare
You hand them 55c expecting the 1 cent change and in return on asking for it you are called names (mela mejjet bil-guh?)
You hand them 60c and they hand you back 5 cents !
If on the contrary you happen to have 53 cents the likely reply was '1cent iehor gbin!!
I am commuting with Arriva more frequently than I did in the past and yes it is route 41 (it takes ages to get to the destination I want but after 2 weeks it has improved, and when the bugibba/qawra interchange is removed from the route timing improve further)
Ronald Sultana
Jul 14th 2011, 13:51
My trip from Rome to Malta was shorter than my trip with Arriva from Mosta to Valletta.
Mr Joe Cordina
Jul 14th 2011, 11:13
I have a suggestion regarding Qui Si Sana Street. If this street had to be turned into a one way street from tower road towards tunnel one lane couild be kept for bus service and the other for normal traffic. In this way the service would be faster and would eliminate the anomaly that exists now where vehicles parked in garages at Qui Si Sana Street have to drive up to Tower road manouver behind Preluna and turn back from Fond Ghadir to reach Sliema feries / Gzira direction.
Joe Scerri
Jul 14th 2011, 08:32
I never use public transport. With Arriva I was considering starting using it but not until all these issues are resolved. Taking a two hour trip that would take me 20 minutes by car is totally unacceptable. Please revise those ridiculous routes.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 13th 2011, 23:42
The best thing to do is to start walking home and then thumb a lift when an Arriva comes into sight.
James Dewar
Jul 13th 2011, 23:24
Am I overly cynical or was it the case that when "planning" and reorganising the route network the prime (if not sole) objective was to maximise profit for the operator with little or no consideration being given to the level of service to be provided to fare paying passengers? And the "two tier" fare system..... whats all that about!? Cynically again, one may say it was a cunning ploy to gain favour with the Maltese population but even that seems to have backfired. Back to the drawing board methinks and when they are at it they could respray the King Longs a nice shade of yellow!
Martin Attard
Jul 13th 2011, 21:00
THE NEW BUS SERVICE.........BIGGEST MISNOMER EVER...........IT IS ANYTHING BUT A SERVICE, BUT DON'T WORRY , THINGS WILL SOON RESUME BACK TO NORMAL, HOPEFULLY BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS..............
James Camilleri
Jul 13th 2011, 19:55
Ms MaryJo Camenzuli had an excellent ride today as well. I will try to take a very thick book next time I board a bus. Most probably I will manage to finish reading it by the time I arrive to my destination. If I find an empty seat that is. Lol
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 13th 2011, 19:48
Is anyone from Transport Malta or Arriva actually checking out these comments? As Maanwel Delia did not mention Marsascala when he said some routes will be changed. In Marsascala we want our old 17 or 19 Bus route back! Not a detour via the Airport and Bye the way Bus no 119 to B'Bugia is nearly always empty. Remove it and add a Valletta Bus instead which serves all the Marsascala localities. even Bus 124 is always leaving empty - what a waste! And then they made no 91 stop at the terminus and not go round the Jerma area. Hawwadni ha nifhem.
G Briffa
Jul 14th 2011, 09:15
Oh so now you are complaining again ? Werent you the first person to call for drivers to be sacked and saying that the transport and routes will be a lot better then what we had. I admit the buses are really accomodate but i guess you are now realising that it wasn't the drivers for the delays, but because of that stupid guy who won't mention his name that invented these routes. In order for me to go to Mcast i have to take 3 freaking buses in the morning and afternoon
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 19th 2011, 23:00
G Briffa - you are mixing me up with someone else! I have complained about the new routes from day one. I never said the drivers were responsible for the big flop on the routes, anzi i always said Transport Malta and it's fat cows of consultants who are to blame for this mess.
j brincat
Jul 13th 2011, 17:05
Family personal experience.
Left home at 7.00 (am) and spent 35 minutes for the bus to arrive from Vittoriosa (ie just stages away - obviously the bus was NOT on schedule).
The bus arrived at 7.35! Then went to Paola Square and went down Cospicua Road again and passed by the Mosque. Waste of time and energy!
At this rate how could one arrive at work on time?
Should I sue Arriva? Has Delia resigned by now?
Joe Azzopardi
Jul 13th 2011, 16:42
The Arriva service has up to now proofed to be nothing more then mediocre. People are still being left stranded on bus stops. I have just spent 2 hours on a bus stop in Floriana waiting for bus number 1 which should pass every half an hour.
This after the cost of public transport was raised by the same Arriva who, to top it all, also made the park and ride facility in Floriana far too expensive to use on a daily bases. People working in Floriana like myself feel frustrated and helpless.
Ritienne Grixti
Jul 13th 2011, 15:51
Wish to say thanks to that person incharge of Arriva. Thanks for cancelling the only bus we had for Valletta, now I have to catch two buses . Thanks for leaving me more than one hour waiting (with no information if the bus is going to come at all) . Thanks for the tour the bus gave me before arriving home . but most of all thanks for taking out all stages so I had to wait for more than an hour in direct sun ..
Shelley Mizzi
Jul 13th 2011, 15:50
Listen, at the end of the day people are not complaining about the drivers and the lack of drivers speaking in maltese, people are not complaining about the buses and the lack of buses being washed, people are complaining about the wait to get on a bus and the wait to get off a bus due to the routes being a bit naff. So the sooner that the routes are revised and sorted out, the sooner things will get better!!!!!!!!
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Jul 13th 2011, 15:44
Gatt taf x'ghamilt b'idejk gennint Malta kollha f'kolp wiehed.
ALBERT GALEA
Jul 15th 2011, 08:22
was this minister's gatt going away gift to the maltese public ?
Mr Sandro Cremona
Jul 15th 2011, 09:51
Gatt qallek : spicca iz zmien tal buzulotti !!! wara li ilna 30 sena nigvernaw.....
Quelin Zammit
Jul 13th 2011, 15:41
Said to see such a tradition/image go to waste, the Malta Busses just like the London Busses where an icon, for tourists and Maltese citizens alike.
They defined us, would have been nice to see old shaped busses with modern interiors, would have been a revolution just the same but keeping our heritage.....
Thanks
Ronald Sultana
Jul 14th 2011, 13:56
good comment
Mr John Dee
Jul 15th 2011, 10:45
Much as I agree with you as regards the nostalgia which the old buses evoked, I wonder how many of them met with the modern safety requirements public transport needs to provide for both passengers and drivers (yes - the drivers really are mostly normal people).
I recall seeing a picture of one overturned in a field ( according to the driver for no apparent cause) which looked to be about a metre high - what passenger protection was built in there?
Perhaps if we give them enough time and support - yes SUPPORT - we will finish up with a service so reliable and efficient that we can boast about it to all and sundry.
In the meantime lets all have a good moan!
James Dewar
Jul 13th 2011, 13:46
Arriva...... here to drive you round the bend!
kim reid
Jul 16th 2011, 09:20
WHEN YOU PACK PEOPLE IN LIKE SARDINES , IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SAFETY REGULATIONS ARE IN, IN REGARDS TO THE BUS ITSELF, I ENGLISH WOULD THEY GET AWAY WITH PACKING OUT THE BUSES LIKE A BOMBAY BUS BACK HOME , I DONT THINK SO
Mario Pace
Jul 13th 2011, 12:46
Emmanuel Delia has not replied to any points raised I noticed. Such a fiasco. In Ta Paris and Swatar buses going round streets empty with B'Kara and Mater Dei two minutes on foot. What's the point. I think the residents prefer to be connected to Valletta.
Joe Diacono
Jul 13th 2011, 12:33
Simplify the system, give us the commuters an efficent service, without rides that take two hours or more.
Ronald Formosa
Jul 13th 2011, 12:25
I would like to suggest the introduction of what was number 55. Since Naxxar Road and Mannarino Road are extremely important for the number of schools, banks and other outlets in the vicinity, it is a hassle that for such a short distance, from Naxxar to B'Kara one has to make use of the Mosta Technopark interchange.
Monica Schranz
Jul 13th 2011, 11:58
Yesterday I decided to check out whether it would be possible to make some trips in the future without the hassle of parking the car. It was a most disappointing experience. The trips I made, taking hours and hours, were at times hilarious, sad, pitiful and downright dangerous. The conclusions I made were that the drivers are well on the way of reverting to the 'way we knew them'; you cannot schedule being anywhere when you should, however much leeway you plan; most of the promises made by Arriva have not materialized; the buses I was on were even dangerously packed tight with passengers (have our Laws flown out the window?).
I shall certainy be giving the Arriva service a miss, at least until we get a 'decent' service.
Pull up your socks, Arriva. You are certainly taking Malta for a 'ride'.
michelle agius
Jul 13th 2011, 11:42
first of all we needed drivers that are with uniform and are polite that was a much needed change. i wish they left the routes how they where as do take long to arive to destination. i hope they do a bus going down savoy hill like the 60 used to do.
Chris Galea
Jul 13th 2011, 10:56
Arriva: Taking You for a ride!
Jeffrey Bonanno
Jul 14th 2011, 11:38
i'd say a never ending ride...
Mr Paul Caruana
Jul 13th 2011, 10:37
For now, Transport Malta and Arriva should agree that their absolute priority are that the Mainline routes work according to the respective timetables as advertised on the Arriva website.
If need be, the Airport express and direct routes should be suspended indefinitely, and a public notice issued in this regard, such that all available resources are diverted into making sure that the Valletta routes work on time, AND that passengers are not left to wait on bus stops in vain, while Arriva buses pass by full up!
Mark Galea
Jul 13th 2011, 09:20
Yesterday waited from 4:50 to 6:35 pm to board an X1 bus to Cirkewwa ... after repeatedly calling at arriva, first we were told the bus was delayed, then that they did not know where it is ...
A great big hearty thank you to arriva ... by the way, on the bus met a couple of english men who told me what was done in UK to get some sense in Arriva's heads ...
James Camilleri
Jul 13th 2011, 19:49
What tell us please maybe soemthing can be done soon to sort out this mess of a public transport disservice
Christopher Scicluna
Jul 13th 2011, 08:18
At Iklin, people have given up trying to board the buses at Geronimo Abos Street because they are always full up and do not stop.
A.f Ellul
Jul 12th 2011, 20:02
Last Sunday I and my family went to bir Zebbugia near the sea at about 18:00,At the time that we decided to go back home which was about 19:15,I drive my car from wied il-buni and turn to pass from near the pretty bay, at that moment ,the Arriva bus pass from this road, stopped at the bus stop to pick passengers , but happened that it stay there for a long time, behind it ,quantity of cars waiting the Arriva car starts to move, but still no move, cars blowing horns ,other saying bad words, then many of the cars pass from another roads to escape from this jam that was created by the Arriva bus. I want to know why this happened and why no action was taken, if I do as the Arriva bus did, I sure that the justice take action in that moment and surely I will get a nice fine.
Anthony Grech
Jul 12th 2011, 23:02
The problem is that the new introduced routes where increased by distance to cover,new routes were introduced by foriegn people!!
Fom Valletta to Cirkewwa it takes 2.5hrs to 3hrs,depending on the traffic peek,if kept like this next mid September, When the School open thier doors, it will be Chaotic,the same trip will take nearly to 4hrs
Mrs Carmen Borg
Jul 13th 2011, 01:15
I am attaching this comment to yours because when I click on the main post comment icon it opens up and promptly closes again preventing any entry.
From far away Australia after reading all these complaints about the new bus service, I think this has been a monumental balls up.
Transport Malta and Arriva should be totally ashamed of themselves.
Have they ever heard of the word research or even know what it actually means?
If they did do research, where did they go to do it, the Sahara Dessert?
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 13th 2011, 01:50
Not bir Zebbuga -> Birzebbuga
Adrian Pavia
Jul 12th 2011, 19:12
Totally disappointed with Arriva. I was one of those pleading to give Arriva time but now I realised that it was a scam. Buses not washed daily, real time info not working, buses use the stupid old system of changing the numbers manually. Is this the service you offer in England Arriva? No. I was in London last week and you offer an excellent service there. I appreciate the A/C (were available), doors closing and uniformed and educated drivers but you are failing big time in "here to take you there". I hope the situation improves or I'll either use the red minibuses or my own car.
Ms Rebecca Barry
Jul 12th 2011, 19:11
I like the fact that they are more comfortable to ride and they are environmentally friendly and that for 1.50 you can ride as much as you like, but the routes have gotten longer instead of shorter. For example from St. Paul's to birkirkara it used to take me 30mins at the most, so before maybe it used to take me an hour in all with waiting and the trip, but now I have to prepare 2 hours before, 1 hour waiting for the bus since they only pass every 30 mins and another hour for the trip!! This is not realistic 1hour to get from St. Paul's to Birkirkara and vice versa. Also I would like to suggest that bus drivers on the 41 route (to Cirkewa) should not pick up people who are on for mosta or birkirkara as these people have other alternatives and we do not. For example today the 41 bus was full up with people to mosta and people for st. pauls, mellieha and cirkewa were left waiting for an hour on the bus stop because of these people!! Since some people still do not now the alternatives the bus drivers should tell them about these alternatives!
Mr Eman Formosa
Jul 12th 2011, 13:13
Yesterday Arriva said that as the day progressed "delays started creeping in". Now without going into the traffic problems, onboard ticketing and more,more,more, I would like to point out something regarding the route plans as per Arriva website. Two examples: Route 31. From Technopark to the Rotunda there are 11 stops and time allotted 5 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!. From near Kinds showroom to the stop after the GS superstore 6 stops and time allotted 6 minutes. You can imagine the delays that pile up after say 3 hours of service! These times are for "drawing boards", SUPER Heroes or better still for flying buses. On a brighter note I'm sure that we'll soon have a very good bus service provided there is a general review and complaints looked into as soon as possible.
Stephanie Scerri
Jul 12th 2011, 12:24
It took my daughter 2 hours to get from Ghajn Tuffieha to Valletta yesterday afternoon, in one of the old buses with no a/c, and sealed windows! She had to get the Mellieha bus on her return, since the no 23 bus never showed up. How's that for the service we were promised?
A. Demanuele
Jul 12th 2011, 15:11
My wife works 5 hours daily in Valletta , where before it took her from an overall 50 minutes to 1 hour to go to work and come back home , now its taking an overall average of 3 hours - we must say it almost trippled , she's spending almost the same time in bus / waiting for the bus as her working hours.
My opinion : You can't change all routes , route numbers , new services all together.Buses , Drivers and Uniforms etc should changed over to Arriva as scheduled but we should have kept the same service and things done gradually , the changeover should had been taken keeping the old routes and numbers , then by time first changing the route numbers , then more time and include new routes and then after some time starting changing and removing routes.
j brincat
Jul 12th 2011, 11:44
Much and much less than our expectations.
Yesterday in the afternoon (2.00) there were no buses to take us home (from Valletta) to Cottonera and this in this scorching heat. In all it took us 1.15 to reach home.
If this is not lousy service I do not know what is!
(jb)
Christian Ellul
Jul 12th 2011, 10:38
I've noticed that the buses are not being washed daily from the outside. If i'm not mistaken the contract with Arriva included a clause to clean the buses daily inside and outside. Can someone from transport malta answer please?
Alex Falzon
Jul 12th 2011, 09:32
ARRIVA has a reputation to safeguard - Arriva supplies large countries in Europe and commuters in their repsective countries have positive feedback about the global service given. In few months Arriva will step up their standards and hopefully everything will be set again.
Unfortunetely, we were faced with these hiccups but I am sure that it is worth it. This will serve very good for Arriva in the long run.
James Camilleri
Jul 12th 2011, 20:26
Read comments on the internet re the service given to commuters by Arriva in the UK - you will realise that we are not the only people who grumble. If Arriva does have a reputation to safeguard it should set its house in order and not just in Malta.
Paul Ellul
Jul 12th 2011, 09:32
Yesterday I noticed that a bus was going through Ta Paris to the hospital. It wind its way through residential roads to Swattar and comes out in front of St Anthony's Church. The road there is narrow and the bus goes up on top of the pavement. As B'Kara centre is only two minutes away there is no need of a bus.
The hospital is five minutes away on foot from Ta Paris via the underpass.
The bus was empty. How can they justify such a useless route to the hospital which is across the road.
Let's have a change of goverment.
J Drury
Jul 12th 2011, 14:50
You would wish that right Paul??
So let's change the government since the bus way empty and it's a useless route (according to you)..
Pathetic to say the least!!
A Cordina
Jul 12th 2011, 08:20
My experience with X1 (airport express) this morning:
The bus left Cirkewwa 20 minutes late.
The bus was not an articulated one; meaning that there was no space for luggage.
The on-board display system did not work (however i think this has become something normal by now).
The bus driver didn't know the routes so thank god (for me) he skipped some.
The bus stopped by some bus stops which do not indicate X1.
About Marsa Park & Ride...i just cannot describe the disorganization and confusion.
Mario Attard
Jul 12th 2011, 08:03
I’m sorry to say that I’m not satisfied with the new Arriva service. Apart from waiting over an hour to catch the bus from Qormi (near St. George Church), the journey took another hour to arrive to Valletta.
Previously with the old system the bus took just 15 to 20 minutes from Qormi to Valletta.
Now Bus 112 takes us a journey around Qormi, another journey around Hamrun, then you have to pick up another bus at Marsa and finally arrive at Valletta. Sadly I had to pass through this bizarre system on my way back home. Moreover the buses are not all air-conditioned as promised.
I hope that a direct bus from Qormi San George to Valletta will be re-introduced in the near future. The distance from Qormi to Valletta is just below 5km. So I don’t understand why we have to catch two buses to get to the capital city.
I have my doubts if I would ever re-use your service. I am depressed that I had to pay €1.50 for this disservice.
Charles P Cilia
Jul 12th 2011, 00:48
Forgetting for a minute the problem of lack of drivers and the reasons why. And, for a moment, lets acknowledge and accept the frustrations, delays, hardship and all other insane circumstances the commuters has been enduring this past week. The fact still remains that somebody has to shoulder the responsibility for:-
1. Drawing up the specifications for the types of vehicles to be contracted for, especially the use of bendy buses?
2. Drawing up the ridiculous bus routes?
3. Allowing the setting up of interchanges which are only for the benefit of Arriva and not the commuter?
4. Sticking to a launch date when main systems, procedures and infrastructure were not yet in place?
5. Disregarding completely the local weather conditions of extreme heat especially from midday onwards without providing adequate shelters for passengers queuing up sometimes for hours?
Finally; how did this contract went so much astray that even Minister Gatt did not see whats coming? Very usual.............
There may be other contractual misgivings and technical deficiencies which from a lay person point of view are not yet apparent. But, will, sooner or later come to light for all to see. Not forgetting that in one way or other we the taxpayers are footing the bill for this gigantic fiasco.
4.
Karen Houston
Jul 11th 2011, 23:44
My first experience with Arriva in Malta was last Friday and at Valletta when I said this was my first time on the new buses I was wished 'good luck' by 2 Arriva staff (ominous start!). The 31 bus was there and the driver gave me change of a note (big hike from 47 cents to 1.50!). Bus was air conditioned, thank goodness as it took an hour to get from Valletta to Naxxar-with no traffic. The engine sounded and felt weak as if it couldn't manage the load and the route was anything but direct.
My personal feelings are that if the service was at fault why did they not make every driver take customer service training, then if that didn't work change the drivers and work from that direction. The idea that Valletta was used as the main hub (as in a wheel) then branch out all over the island worked for decades, and the expression is 'why reinvent the wheel'. For Arriva we have altered roads, installed traffic lights in stupid places (just off a busy roundabout), changed bus stops, changed route numbers, hiked the prices up, invented the weirdest routes ever seen (was the planner made to take a sobriety test beforehand?) and worst of all the yellow buses were part of Malta history. Agreed sometimes it was an unknown entity regarding the drivers but it made the ride all the more interesting. I personally know Arriva was poor in the UK and from what I have heard, also in other countries.
When I make a mistake I am never to scared to admit it but will the transport governor admit that this might have been a costly mistake?
James Dewar
Jul 12th 2011, 14:14
Can't argue with that, all very valid!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 11th 2011, 18:01
Excellent service today (Monday 11th).
Best day yet.
Just one week has really made a difference
and Arriva has responded.
Not forgetting the positive changes we already had from day 1:
good buses, airconditioned, low floor,
courteous drivers, silent buses, better ride (to be able to read on the bus).
And it will improve even further.
.
James Camilleri
Jul 11th 2011, 22:25
Oh please shut up Ms Camenzuli - you are as bad as the Arriva service - all shiny and nice but with no substance.
L SPITERI
Jul 11th 2011, 14:48
Yesterday morning I saw 3 Arriva bus drivers talking on their mobile phones, 2 of them in Tal-Barrani! Did they give them strict instructions? And who is responsible for the outside cleaning of the buses?
Paul Ellul
Jul 12th 2011, 09:26
I too have noticed them talking on the phones. They are not bothering with keeping up the cleanliness of the buses as yet. They need to find someone to do it as yet I have been told.
Antoniette Schembri
Jul 11th 2011, 13:47
This morning my friend and I needed to go to Valletta from Birzebbuga (no82). The bus we got on had no A/C switched on and when we asked the driver to switch it on, he said it was not available on that bus. The trip took an hour and a half, and the bus driver continued to pick up people from the bus stops even though the bus was full up (with people standing). Everyone started to complain about the heat and lack of air, since only the small windows could be opened. However, the driver did not pay any attention to the complaints and continued to pick up commuters.
I really do not think that these buses (the ones without climate control) should operate, especially in summer and that something should be done. It is already the second week of service for Arriva and they are clearly not giving us what we are paying for.
Catherine Sciberras
Jul 11th 2011, 12:55
We were better when the service was worse. Sic... My husband and I had to return home after waiting for the No 11 buson the Gerardu Sirens bus stop at St. Paul's Bay from 7.50am to 10.15. During this period only two buses passed and both full-up.
We called customer care along with others to complain from the bus stop but the problem persisted. Commuters who had been on this bus stop since 7.30 saw four of the No 41 buses go by always full up. So we cannot say that the Arriva service is improving. The way things are going more private cars are on the roads. And the people who don't drive what shall they do in the meantime? We got the short end of the stick.
Dear Mr Minister why don't you and your advisors get off your bums and take a bus ride..You are welcome to join the queues.
Mario Ellul
Jul 11th 2011, 12:36
Yesterday I needed to go from St Paul's Bay to B'Kara.
I WAITED ON THE BUS STOP FOR TWO HOURS.
In the end a bus came and I managed to get on it standing. A lot of passengers who had got on at Ghadira disembarked at Bugibba and then it was quite fast for a change. But the detour took an exta 15 minutes and because the big buses are unwieldy an extra ten minutes on the usual time. The bus driver admitted this himself. He said that the new buses are dangerous on the road because they are too big.
I know that Arriva has a reduced service at the week-end. This is the case abroad. But Arriva needs to realise that people go to the beach at the week-end and they need to put on extra buses or run the same time-table at the week-end on the route to Bugibba.
TM is responsible for the routes but they were under instruction from Arriva to get the buses filled. So again Arriva is at the bottom of it, the chaos created. I hope that when a new goverment comes into power we will have a solution, even if the contract is torn up and they take all their buses with them.
Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze
Jul 11th 2011, 10:57
What about us Marsaskala residents?? Prior to Arriva, we had 3 bus routes passing through the main road Triq il-Qaliet, and we did not have to board a bus, only to have to alight and board another one at the bus station opposite the swings. Mr Delia, please stop insulting our intelligence. Bus no. 135 only passes through Triq il-Qaliet on its way to Valletta, but coming back from Valletta, the last stop is at the bus station. Bus no. 91's last stop is also at the bus station. This means that both new buses do not cater to residents living in Zonqor Point, near the Cerviola hotel, near ex-Jerma hotel, and near St Thomas Bay. Coming back from Valletta, all these residents have to walk a good distance before they get home - I've had to walk this distance in this blistering heat Mr Delia, have you?? What if my 86 year old grandfather goes to Valletta? Coming back, he would have to walk a good 30 mins before getting home. What if, God forbid, something goes wrong? Who would be held responsible? Please note we are not lamenting capriciously, we are lamenting because we are not getting the service we were promised!! I urge and encourage fellow Marsaskala residents who are displeased with the current state of affairs, and I know there are many, to stand up and be counted and voice their concerns! We are not second class citizens, or are we Mr Delia??
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 12th 2011, 10:16
Well said Ms Sarah, my 78 year old mother lives near the St Thomas Tower near the Jerma, before she could get Bus `17 or 19 or 20 to Valletta or Bus 22 to Cospicua, if Mr Delia is saying in the Times of today that the Councils and the residents were consulted before drawing up the routes then he is a big LIAR, my mother did not receive any invitation to discuss the new routes before they sent out the map and if the Council agreed to a route which has eliminated Bus no 17 from passing in Salini street just in front of their own office then they are not looking out for the interests of residents or are taking a summer nap. When my mother received the arriva map by post at home it was shown that Bus 91 would pass every 10 minutes from Qaliet street, when this was not happening, we phoned Arriva customer care who told us there was a mistake on the map and Bus 91 stops at the Terminus. All that they need is to have Bus 91 follow the route as was drawn on their own map. So instead of the useless Bus 119 which follows most of route 135 which can be eliminated as people can take 135 and change at Bir id Deheb to get to M'xlokk Arriva needs to provide a bus service to Valletta for all areas in Marsascala as it was before. It is the routes which are causing hardship not the drivers or the signs on the buses. It is stupid to expect people to go to Airport then get a Bus to Valletta, at least the old direct routes were better in serving the needs of the residents, now they are interested in only serving tourists. But as always the South of Malta is neglected in everything. To get to Birgu market my mother has to either get Bus 135 to Terminus, hop on bus no 91, stop at Paola anad then hop on another Bus to Birgu. - This is ridiculous and must be chamged. To get to Valletta she must either walk 20 minutes to Terminus or get on Bus 135, stop at Terminus and get another Bus 91 to Valletta, and the time is doubled to get to where you have to go bacause of all the round Malta tours. If Halcyon and Transport Malta think these routes are making the Maltese people happier they are very wrong.
Doris Farrugia
Jul 12th 2011, 11:11
Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze,I think that you are misinformed about bus 135.If you think that boarding 135 is taking you to Valletta,I'm sorry but you'll end up at the airport through Gudja/Ghaxaq.
Arthur Micallef
Jul 11th 2011, 09:22
I just cannot understand that in this EU country people are being discriminated by different bus fares for non Maltese residents. I have never experienced such a ridiculous thing anywhere else in the civilised world. I really hope that this government stops this discrimination immediately. I must say that I really feel disgusted. I really hope that the EU court of justice takes this pure discrimination in serious consideration.
James Dewar
Jul 11th 2011, 11:08
Arthur, I agree wholeheartedly and hope that this discrimination is ended soon. However, as I indicated in my post below we were shocked recently to consistently witness a number of the old drivers in the old buses deliberately failing to issue tickets to paying black customers. This was not a "one off" but a regular occurence. Unless there is some justifiable reason for this ( I cant think what that could be ) this was blatant discrimination on racial grounds.
S. Camilleri
Jul 12th 2011, 08:15
'Discrimination' based on residency ... as opposed to citizenship ... is practised everywhere; in the EU and North America and in parochial Malta. Consider residents parking. Same thing. Why should a resident have 100% better chance to park his car then a non-resident who works in the same location (and spends 8-10 hour per day of his life there)?
James Dewar
Jul 10th 2011, 17:03
Much continues to be writtenand some are whingeing for the sake of it, but a huge amount of common sense has been demonstrated and TM and Arriva would do well to listen carefully and act quickly upon some of the more constructive suggestions. There is absolutely no doubt that, in addition to massively inconveniencing the Maltese population and detrimentally affecting businesses, the present situation is also having an increasingly negative impact on Tourism.
We have visited Malta regularly since 1985 and this year took a week's holiday to coincide with the ending of the old buses (I have always had a special interest in them) and the start of the new "service" (I now use the term loosely!).
The first half our our holiday was as we had always experienced i.e. we were able to travel anywhere on the Island rapidly, without excessive waiting and at what, by any standards, was a ridiculously cheap fare.
We witnessed the lavish "handover ceremony" in Valetta last Saturday night and thereafter immediately felt the consequences of the new regime. No buses!! Having failed to get a bus to return to Qawra we were held to ransom by taxi drivers who decided amongst themselves that 30 euro was the minimum fare to Qawra. This information was passed down the taxi rank ahead of us and we had no option but to stump up!
On Sunday we went down to the terminus at Bugibba to see how (if) the new service was working. The content of these opinion columns over the past week accurately reflects the utter chaos that we witnessed there. I spoke to a driver (newly recruited by Arriva and previously an HGV driver). He was exhausted disillusioned and demoralised and I felt extremely sorry for him. He lived in Gozo and had started his day at 03:00am. On arriving for duty he discovered his bus ticket machine was not functioniong and there were a number of other issues with the vehicle which prevented him starting on time. He was not subsequenly relieved by his replacement driver as per the arrangement and continued to work much longer than the rostered first section of his "split shift". He was obliged to take his rest break and drink from his flask of coffee sitting on a wall in the baking sun at the terminus with no proper rest facilities. He was a genuinely decent individual and not in any way millitant but after only a few hours into his first day with Arriva he appeared broken and upset. He obviously wanted to provide a service to the travelling public and the prevailing circumstances and apparent lack of planning and organisation clearly prevented him from doing so. Whilst speaking to him amidst the surrounding chaos he was approached by passengers seeking advice re bus times and routes who had repeatedly failed to obtain the information from other officials on site. Despite his obvious distress he dutifully brought out his manual and although apparently still unfamiliar with it, searched until he was able to provide the necessary information. Sadly those who asked were less than grateful for his assistance probably further increasing his dejection. I fear that, despite his initial good intentions and committment this driver may already have chosen not to remain in Arriva's employment. I subsequently heard of another newly recruited driver who commenced his shift on that Sunday morning and resigned at the end of it. We did not travel on buses for the remainder of our holiday for very obvious reasons but we did witness the ensuing chaos.
Yes, Tourists (myself included) did see the old yellow (previously green) buses through rose tinted spectacles but they did a good job and moved thousnds of tourists around the Island quickly and cheaply, albeit Health and Safety was undoubtedly an issue, as was the arrogance and rudeness of some drivers (we wondered why black passengers were not given tickets by a number of the old drivers?). Changes resulting in improvements were overdue and would have been welcomed equally by residents and Tourists alike but what has taken place has overnight destroyed the transport infrastructure of the whole Island and had a seriously detrimental effect on industry,commerce and tourism.
Solutions (not rhetoric, repeated apologies or thanks for patience) are required and it is to be hoped that those in a position to do so will urgently take the necessary action to restore some semblance of order to what was, until Saturday 2nd July, a fairly effective and efficient transport system.
Ye olde "Sledgehammer to crack a nut" or "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" sayings would appear to be highly appropriate as regards what has been allowed to take place! A lightweight hammer and fine tuning tools in the hands of skilled operators now need to be employed to rectify!
maria theresa grech
Jul 10th 2011, 16:50
I enjoyed the trip as the vehicles are a treat for us with air condition installed. But going to Valletta it was a hastle for me, there should be ones that go strait to Valletta as they usually did. By the way even to go to Ghadira bay it took us 3 hours, as a lot of tourist came up and on every stop it had to take a long time to pay. On the whole the drivers ar very polite and well dressed.Thanks and Hope for the best.
J. Falzon
Jul 10th 2011, 12:45
I would like to comment that there are still various problems with bus routes 51,52,53 people need to wait at least 45 minutes during busy hours and when finally a bus will come it would be full up. I hope that this issue would be addressed ASAP !!
Noel Mifsud
Jul 10th 2011, 11:53
Investiment kbir ghat turisti f Malta!!!!!! Turist ikollu jhallas rata aktar gholja ghat trasport pubbliku!
Alex Bugeja
Jul 10th 2011, 08:17
Why is taking 2 to 3 hours to get to Valletta with this NEW route system some wise guy come up with?? No wonder they have a 'day ticket' as you'll spend most of your day on a bus to get from point A to point B. Come on people let's put the pressure on Arriva and the Goverment to get the old routes back.....if the people refuse to use the system as it is I'm sure something will be done. Have a nice trip!!
Julian Agius
Jul 10th 2011, 11:16
Thank God Someone is investing in Malta to employ ! Thank God you can breath driving behind a bus.Thank god for the smart & friendly drivers.God had only one Devil & took 7 days to create the world Arriva have many many.The ex bus Drivers; those parking on bus stops those argueing etc.etc.
Yes bad Start but what you expect when a big percentage of bus drivers did not show up.It is a pity I cannot drive a bus as I would go for free until those who wants to live as in the 60 bullying & scaring other
companys away are completly gone. Good luck Arriva hope you dont forget those drivers that are doing their best not to go back to te 60's.Its easy for so many to complain but not so easy now a days for companys to come to invest!Easy to write & complain but very hard to say thankyou.
J.Agius
Godfrey Pirotta
Jul 10th 2011, 15:42
@Julian Agius
Even if all the drivers turn-up it would still be a problem because one of the major problems is the routes adopted. Where there was once simplicity there is now unecessary changes. It is clear that the ministry of Austin Gatt was once again guilty of gross incompetence (as in the case of Arms Ltd) and now have joined the band wagon to blame Arriva and the drivers. Management has said that half of those who did not turn up were former bus drivers. This means that the other half were new drivers. Does this not make you ask a number of questions? Maybe unlike me you are not a daily bus user and therefore cannot compare the old routes with the new. As things stand when University opens in October you will find that students will have to take very early buses to get to campus and there will be chaos as they try to get home after lectures. Similarly the inconvenience for people who need to get to Mater Dei for early appointments (the norm) and to visit relatives. You must understand the people who use these buses are mainly elderly people who have no other alternative but to depend on their relatives. Then they will have a hard time getting home again.
I do not blame Arriva for the chaos I have experienced this week but Minister Gatt who laid out the conditions and blueprint for the project. Unlike you, because it touches me closely, I have taken an interest from a couple of years before Arriva were first mentioned and I did write to say that the plans were not appropriate. So I feel entitled to complain and to shout out loud I TOLD YOU SO!
Finally Minister Gatt said on Saturday that the project took three years of planning and research. It makes you think seriously about the professional training of these planners and researchers. probably they were people from the Minister's constituency who like him have never really used the public transport.
Mr Anthony Mifsud Bonnici
Jul 10th 2011, 05:59
http://travel.ciao.co.uk/Arriva__Review_5248434
Nick Compton
Jul 9th 2011, 20:21
i think removing the old yellow buses from malta is a terrible thing. ok im not a maltese resident but my father is and whenever i go over and see him i do try and use the buses to get around, but after hearing from my step mother the other day that a normal 45min journey to work took her 2hrs 45mins. thats a disgrace. and then to top it all off to hear from my daughter today that if u go on a bus now, Non Maltese ppl have to pay €2.60 as apposed to €1.50 how much discrimination is that. If we did that in the uk we would have had loads of ppl moaning by now.
Alex Bugeja
Jul 10th 2011, 08:07
All of what you heard is true Nick, well said.
hugh jars
Jul 10th 2011, 20:22
so £2 for 1 stop in the uk and €2.60 for a day ticket.....get a life, people moan every day out there but that is all they do. stay there and be ripped off
michelle Bonham-dare
Jul 9th 2011, 19:30
please keep some of the old buses, i have been coming to malta since i was a child as my mother is maltese and part of my childhood was the good old maltese bus, malta will not be the same
tyson freeman
Jul 9th 2011, 19:18
i think we should of left everything how it was just with new buses i think the new routes and waiting 3 hours on a bus stop to catch a bus is rubbish
Mario Desira
Jul 9th 2011, 19:13
The way forward is looking forward not backwards.
The biggest disaster was the routes drawn or accepted by former ADT.
I have already stated the direct routes to Valletta are top priority and and imperative and manpower and buses must serve ONLY direct routes if there is presently not enough staff and buses.
The huge delays in journeys and masses of people late for work and appointments - are these to continue for months until the right standard is reached? There would be a revolution faster than you can say 'arab spring'. The authorities must admit this was a fiasco, make these adjustments and move on instead of the deafening silence as a present.
The LP too is strangely silent while one wonders why AD has not issued any public comments yet.
For goodness sake does there has to be another referendum or national protest or national petition to have the direct routes back as number one priority? Who are those who lost or may loose their jobs because of coming late for work to sue for damages?
On a positive note I see that after I pubished my comments here about the absurd positioning of the tents at Valletta Terminus, at least they are add more tents although more are needed. I keep on auguring for common sense to prevail.
Common sense tells you if new routes cost more, take much more time waiting and traveling, then for goodness sake scrap them and go back to old routes or a better alternative!
Conni Falzon
Jul 9th 2011, 18:23
Why were the old routes scraped? Couldn't they have been kept and other routes added to them without creating all this chaos. Who ever decided to change certain routes definitely doesn't use the public transport.
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 9th 2011, 17:37
# # Attention Mr. Emmanuel Delia - at the ministry of Transport # #
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Your department should show courage and disband Arriva before the Island delves deeper in chaos.
People are at their wits end.
No one can get to work on time - the hours coming in late for work are being deducted from vacation leave.
Appointments at Mater Dei cannot be kept on time as commuters are not guaranteed a bus back home.
At one point mid week, after waiting 1hr.35 minutes for a bus, I started having mirages in the noon heat and thought I was seeing a "Yellow Bus" coming up to the bus-stop.
* With all their banging and clanging, the Yellow Buses DID PROVIDE a service - let no one dispute that.
* Yes, most of them were rude, unkept, undisciplined, smoked and played loud music, but the drivers/owners ALWAYS showed up. I had learnt to ignore them as long a they kept the route. I learnt also to hand over exact fare each time and not pretend that this poor driver keeps giving change for every passenger.
I know it is late in the day to bring back the old system, and that whatever we say in these columns - and whatever hardships we endure to get on public transport ... Arriva is here to stay because it is too big a pill for the authorities to swallow and admit they were wrong all the way.
And what about the Opposition in parliament?
Why is it hesitant in critizing the government and offer some solutions?
Anthony Pace
Jul 9th 2011, 18:42
It's still possible and time to get the yellow buses back for a few months until something is sorted out. Arriva can pack up and take its buses with it. They won't be missed.
Time for the cabinet to meet the old drivers , GWU and banks to sponsor a new bus system tailored for the maltese workers.
People need to get from A to B in a short time, efficiently and with speed.
Just imagine the millions this company is going to swallow from us before we get to an election. The MLP will have to sort it out and I hope Mr Muscat is up to it. If this was a pre-election gimick it has failed and cst the PN the election.
The Minister responsible for transport should resign. He was also responsible for te fiasco of Air Malta up till recently.
James Camilleri
Jul 9th 2011, 12:25
Mr Martin from Arriva said that it will take months to have the proper service doing well as advertised. Months to perfect bus service???? And what do we do in the meantime. Who is the bully now???? And we all thought the old bus drivers were bullies!!! I can’t see what is fantastic about the new system when the buses take you everywhere and at the same time nowhere. I think Mr Martin has got his dates wrong when he said Arriva was taking a 1950s service into the 21st century. We had an efficient (very efficient in most areas) bus service. Now even if things were working as they should (all drivers showing up etc) would we have a bus service which in most cases is a disservice (too long trips and too many towns/villages without a proper service). A 1950s system was working well and was serving the commuters. What is 21st century about Arriva in Malta are the shiny buses and the IT systems that is all (which are not working by the way). Our patience has its limits Mr Martin.
I was very disappointed at the Prime Minister’s comments as also those of Dr Gatt. Blaming the drivers for everything when these are your fellow countrymen. Dr Gonzi should have defended them and their right to stand up for their rights. What the PM should have said to the company was to treat its employees decently and not pay them peanuts while changing their conditions on the first day of operations. They have every right not to show up. It was Arriva’s fault if the bus drivers did not show up. This is not a matter of sabotage but a matter of decent working conditions and decent pay. I for one would have done just the same. They were within their legal right not to accept terms which were unacceptable. If the company was not so pig headed this would not have happened. And I forsee that in the coming days there will be more resignations. In fact resignations have been occurring on a daily basis.
The government is speaking as if the sun starting shining over Malta because of it being in power, when the PM is speaking of initiatives etc. This was a very poor initiative Mr Prime Minister. And this has to do with the EU and nothing more.
To end – continue being obtuse Mr Martin about not changing the network and keeping to the present routes. I for one – who am a daily commuter and rely 100% on the bus service – will not be making use of Arriva before it reverts to the routes we had before. At least now I can make use of the more efficient COOP services. My son, who used the bus service to go to work instead of using his car because the trip was no longer than 15 minutes, will be using his car now because with Arriva it will take him about 30 minutes (+waiting). So that means two less clients Mr Martin and there are many more who think like me.
And if the Madonna was crying before the Divorce referendum, she must be in hysterics (of tears not laughing) now seeing such a shambles
Paul Ellul
Jul 9th 2011, 17:39
I agree we had a very efficient bus service. Now we have nothing.
Cut your losses Minister and PM and call it a day. To hell with Europe.
The Brisish are very masterful at drawing out a situation to a lengthy finish and appear not to get the blame. You cannot treat drivers as tough they are scum You need back drivers and there are not enough Maltese drivers for that. Arriva is a big bully company. Leave these islands now and let get on with our lives. We celerbrate liberation day on 31st March.
Alex Bugeja
Jul 10th 2011, 08:19
Well said mate.
Ms Monica Muscat
Jul 9th 2011, 09:40
At the moment, everything seems to be as if we are in a long, black tunnel.....but the light is still stark bright at the other end. Hitches and teething problems were expected - and a long stretch of settling in time. But certainly not to this extent. Who's fault is it that the new bus system took-off with a very loud chaotic bang? I personally do not blame the Government organization.... up to a point! They trusted too much on Arriva organization! It is really them, who let us down. With of course, the truant drivers who still think - and hope - that we will kick out the new system, and welcome the old with open arms. We are not dealing here with the parable of the Prodigal Son. One sigh of relieve I have already permitted myself to give! Driving my car on the way to Mosta, I met up with some Arriva buses on their route. Thank Heavens! No Gas fumes belching from the exhaust pipe; no uncouth driver, driving with one hand hanging out of the windown holding a cigarette; no driver hoothing and swearing at other drivers to get out of their way, as they were Kings of the Road! I guess the Government was to trusting in thinking that he could do away with the Old Chaps with them fighting tooth and nail.
Let us wait and see! The cock fight is still on!
Mr Vince Cachia
Jul 9th 2011, 17:35
Monica you are one of the stupid persons that are praising the system. Yesterday I had to walk all the way from Kirkop to Hamrun. Two buses passed by and did not stop!! If I were the driver of one of them, seeing a person in the middle of nowhere, that means Kirkop I would have stopped even if I had a hundred people on board. One more would not have made any difference, but NOOOO rules are rules or are they doing this on purpose?? You cannot argue if they are full up or not because the windows are black, and that is against Malta's rules too!!
Alistair Busuttil
Jul 10th 2011, 15:51
mr cachia dont be selfish a bus has to stop on a bustop,i understand your frustration but things are changing and eventually be finetuned
Nathanael Grasso
Jul 8th 2011, 21:58
This morning, I was going to work in Valletta and I waited for around 15 minutes near the bus stop at Mannarino Road, B'Kara and the bus came at 8.00 a.m. and I arrived at around 8.20 a.m.
It's a careless of government! I hope it will never repeat again!
Thank you.
hugh jars
Jul 10th 2011, 20:26
ah poor chap 20 mins, get a life
Mr Vince Cachia
Jul 8th 2011, 21:55
Thanks to Arriva jew aspetta....and Austin Gatt, today I had to walk all the way from Hal-kirkop to Hamrun. I cannot imagine why those stupid people that started to praise the new system before it started!!!We have a big mess here not just teething troubles as some are saying!! I have seen two buses speeding off although they saw people running to catch them!! What is this kind of attitude???(vendikazzjoni??)
Joe Brincat-LL.D
Jul 8th 2011, 21:16
Stop saying that the Maltese are incompetent. In the present situation, within one week, many have found solutions, alternative solutions. The Minibus service, without claims for grandeur, is working to perfection. Fewer people are trusting the public service, and that means a lighter load of passengers for Arriva.
I noticed this in Valletta at 1.30 today. At Floriana and at Blata l-Bajda at that time you would see quite a number waiting for a bus. Only a handful . The same at Spencer Hill. I could notice because I decided to walk from Valletta to Marsa. A great surprise to show how change can be marvellous was that the bus stage in Floriana which previously served people going to Marsa/Paola/ Cottonera area was nearer the Lion Fountain. Transport Malta did another miracle. It shifted the stage to the other end. Isn't this a marveloous reform in the system ?
And the company and the GWU are in agreement and both are right. They should not blame the drivers. Look down and examine the experiences of commenters who from Mellieha to Valleta are wasting double the time (apart from waiting). Read about the girl from Zurrieq who had to go for an interview. She put aside the waiting, but mentioned the Malta tour before reaching Sliema. And that meant 4 hours for her.
Someone said that I am commenting here as some sort of political propaganda. I am not Emanuel Delia. But I have been using the old public transport to Valletta since October 2009, when it was impossible to park in Valletta, and inconvenient to park near il-Fossa and them walk uphill to the courts.
From December 13 Road, one bus after another would pass. Some would stop at Portes-des-Bombes to travel to Sliema. It took me no longer than 7 minutes to be at City-Gate (when there was a gate) and then not more than five minutes to reach the courts, slightly inclined downwards. Back home I would go to the right hand side, and notice which bus would leave first. I could calculate that every quarter hour there would be a bus or more. There was some shade, even provided by the bus aligned sideways to the curb. Many would go into the bus, open the widows and wait. I would stand outside, smoke and wait till the final moment. Within five minutes I would be home. And now ? I preferred to walk today.
I am seeking alternative arrangements. Much against my wish. Public transport is good for the environment, but I cannot support principles when there is no real alternative.
I watch from my window the traffic on December 13 Road. It is as if there is a mass meeting on Granaries Square Floriana, at 9.00 a.m. The traffic jam arrives up to the December 13 Monument. So much for the environment.
Anthony Pace
Jul 9th 2011, 09:21
I think that a week is enough to convince the minister in charge of TM that the old bus routes need to be re-introduced again.
The bosses of Arriva probably realise that as well.
The minister should eat humble pie, admit that the introduction of sight-seeing routes is a flop after a week and apologise.
Arriva should look at alternaives to the bigger buses.
They are a big organisation and can ship them to Europe and replace them with smaller ones that are needed for speed, frequency and ease of driving in Malta's congested roads and the need to get from A to B in a sort time such as the girl who went for interview from Zurrieq toSliema.
People have realised that comfort is not everything and neither is a/c and that large buses are combersome and take double the time.
mark borg
Jul 8th 2011, 19:29
The amount of tax payers money paid for each old bus and the number of years taken to abolish our old buses, together with the incompetency of Arriva/Aspetta, will go down in the history of Malta as another pudding from GonziPN regime.
anton cassar
Jul 8th 2011, 17:52
So these guys of Arriva wanted a compensation for not passing through Bisazza str cause they said they are going to take longer route...... so now what compensation should we , the commuters expect from them ???
Anthony Pace
Jul 9th 2011, 08:15
Millions of euros to the tax payer and finance deptartment for the lost hours of work every worker had to endure. Enough to put Non-Arriva out of business in Malta and Europe.
MINISTER ARRIVA IS A TOTAL FLOP.
PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. GIVE US THE OLD ROUTES BACK. SEND ARRIVA PACKING & GET THE OLD BUSES BACK TILL SOMETHING IS SORTED OUT.
Joe Diacono
Jul 8th 2011, 15:50
I am convinced that eventually we will have a better service.
This at present is far off and regret that we probably still have to suffer until they finally get it right.
The system was tried on paper but not tested on the roads. The IT system should have been checked well.
It would have been far better had the service been phased in.
Now what needs to be done and quick is listen to the public and give a service , no longer routes which instead of shortening the trip make it longer, no longer a situation where City Gate is without a temproary canopy,( waiting six weeks is not a solution) no longer queues of frustrated clients and no buses in sight, no longer having to arrive late to work.
I am sure that the drivers are doing more than their utmost, but the public need and rightly demand a service that works.
It's in those problem area's where the system needs to be seen to and sorted out quickly.
Hopefully the weekend will help to sort out some situations, this before the service starts to become a laughing stock.
Anthony Pace
Jul 9th 2011, 10:22
I have lived in the UK for a long time. Arriva are the pits and they treat their employees as shit. They have a bad name in regards to employment. No wonder the bus drivers have rejected their offer. No-one in the UK will put up with such working conditions. The foreign drivers are only here because it is like a holiday for them. Some have brought their partners and children for the month. However Non Arriva is never going to have enough local drivers. Anyone could see that.
MINISTER AUSTIN GATT RESIGN OR PM ASK THE MINISTER FOR HIS RESIGNATION.
Robert Hardy
Jul 11th 2011, 08:21
anthony pace
"The foreign drivers are only here because it is like a holiday for them." What utter nonsense! To be thrown into the prevailing chaos, approaching the busiest time of the tourist season, and in the extreme heat, is hardly a holiday.
I'd also like to know where you've had your information from about them bringing partners and children. Unless they've paid for them to go over, it's NOT allowed. You may also like to know that some of the personnel from the UK, who've been in Malta for several months already, haven't seen their partners and children for all of that length of time, unless they come back home. Said people have been working extremely hard to get drivers through their driving tests and trained ready to start the service. Hardly a holiday is it???
Sieamek Derakxti
Jul 8th 2011, 15:11
I took my visiting friends to the beach in Mellieħa a few days ago, thinking it would be perfect to take the new busses there. It was so embarrassing to first wait for the bus to arrive in Sliema in the hot sun. Then when the right bus finally arrive, sit on the bus that was so cold from the AC that one of my friends cought a cold. It took almost one and a half hours to get there, before with the old bus route 645 it took about 40 minutes. On the way back to Sliema the bus stopped in Bugibba and changed bus number, going directly from Bugibba to Valletta. This is a small island. You shuldn't have to sit on the bus for over 3 hours to go to the beach with visitors, it's embarrassing! It is about 20 km from Sliema to Mellieħa and I understand that the bus has to go to other villages, but 90 minutes is not acceptable for a destination where a lot of tourists go.
Bring back the old routes and make the temperature of the AC pleasant and not freezing!!!
Godfrey Pirotta
Jul 8th 2011, 14:54
The project would have been a success if those who are in charge of public transport in Malta had not wante to go down in Maltese history as the ones that had revolutionised public transport in Malta by sweeping the old system away. They cared not a jot that many services had evolved through public demand and in several occasions in response to tourism needs. Among these were several direct services which have now disappeared. It is also obvious that the only experience that these people had of public transport was gained during their trips abroad and I feel certain that they have hardly ever used public transport in their lives since acquiring a driving licence. If they did, would they have devised such routes which take commuters instead of directly to their destination, or in that direction at least, take them in the opposite direction? Would they drive their cars in that fashion when they drive to work? They were so concerned in bringing the world to Malta that they lost sight of what the local commuters want and need. I would have thought that a basic consideration would have been what the commuter needs. And commuters cannot understand why they have to change buses at interchanges which have turned a 15 or 20 minute bus ride into one which takes 50 to 60 minutes. Is that the way to attract new bus users? And why should bus users have to set their alarm clocks about an hour before they ever needed to just to catch a bus? Is this the comfortable service that commuters were promised?
It was right to do away with the old buses. If tourists really enjoy them one could have easily arranged for some to run some direct routes used by tourists but on condition that these did not pollute. They might have proved a little earner for Arriva.
I have not made use of a private car since 1988. I have used public transport for most of my needs and was generally satisfied with the routes and the frequency. Of course there were areas which needed a more extended or improved service. There were no fancy bendy buses, which some commentators to the The Times had warned were not useful to Malta. There were no electronic indications, which so far have not worked, nor sophisticated ticket machines which for the most part will remain idle in the same way that the old card machines have remained idle. In other words there was no need to re-invent the wheel and try to be clever by half. But they were so out to impress that they forgot, as these people have done on numerous occasions (they were the originators of ARMS Ltd and the pertual chaos it has brought to our lives) that simplicity in the design of service might prove to be much effective.
Ms N Buttigieg
Jul 8th 2011, 12:03
Nissugerixi li l-isem ta' l-"ARRIVA" jinbidel ghal-"NON ARRIVA".
James Camilleri
Jul 8th 2011, 13:28
Better still "Ghar Iva"
Tony Caruana
Jul 8th 2011, 11:55
Dear Dr Frank Portelli, What do you think of E Delia now ?
Frank Portelli 2BFRANK
Jul 8th 2011, 17:01
As Robert De Niro put it
" are you talking to me ? "
regards
Dr Frank Portelli
Mr FRANS H SAID
Jul 8th 2011, 11:33
We were far better when we were worse.
GIVE US THE DIRECT ROUTES AS BEFORE. To me Route 49 is essential. At my age I should not be expected to walk long distances and then change busses, just to go to a Govt Dept in Floriana/valletta.
Who ever invented the circumvention routes probably had never used public transport and usually enjoyed a govt car with driver.
Come on, admit that a huge mistake was made and re install the direct routes.
Malta is a small islamnd and different from other Arriva localities.
Charles Sammut
Jul 8th 2011, 10:16
This is just a Machiavellian ruse to get people to use private cars because the more taxes can be collected that way.
Now who in his right mind would dream of using those bendy buses. They might take 100 passengers, but Malta does not need a service that transports 100 people every 100 minutes. We need buses that can transport 20 people every 20 minutes.
Anthony Pace
Jul 8th 2011, 14:54
You hit it on the nail.
I have been saying all along that what we need is small buses with a frequent service.
Bus 49 left every 10 minutes from Valletta and got you to Bugibba in under 20 minutes on a good run. Now its likely more around 2 HOURS.
Minister take head of these comments as you will be drawing your pension in about fifteen months time.
Listen to the voice of the people. They want the old routes back and they want them now not in six month time. Sort out the bus sizes later but start negotiating on a return of the bendy buses and the big buses NOW. There is no time to wait. Terminate the contract before it goes any further. Get buses that fit our roads.
Tell these Arriva scum that they are not wanted. They have failed us badly. We have paid them enough, put up with their English insolence for decades. Now it is up to us to nationalise the bus service for our use. Foreigners can either put up or shut up and go home.
The English are masterful at waiting and drawing things to a long term conclusion for their profit.
To-day at the hospital there were conducters on the buses telling the English drivers were to drive to. we had enough drivers if Arriva did not concoct some mad time-table that infurated the drivers who felt badly paid.
John Zammit
Jul 8th 2011, 09:11
From Valletta Rd, in front of Bortex, I used to pick up one of the old buses which took me to "Il-Bombi" where I transferred to another bus that took me to B'Kara . This was a half an hour journey.
With the present system I now have 2 options:
A. Take 3 buses. Firsts the 120 to Paola than transfer to another one to il - Bombi and yet another one to my final destination. This means first going the opposite way before going my way.
B. Walk all the way to Aldo Moro street by the gas station, a near 2 km walk, to pick up either the 71 or 72
buses that both come from near St. Vincent de Paul. Although it is quite a hike in the summer heat it
is practically impossible during a winter storm when the street there is like a river of drainage
coming out of the manholes after their covers have been pushed open by the overflowing water.
This area is an industrial one and since both the 71 and 72 are originating more or less from the same place and ending both in Valletta why cannot one be diverted to pass from Valletta road and the other left to travel the present route.
Valletta rd is an industrial area and there should be a better service on it asap and not left to be reviewed within 6 months.
Anthony Pace
Jul 8th 2011, 08:31
I am 54 years of age and hail from B'Kara. I remember the old bus terminus near the old station. There always used to be about six buses there when I was a child. People came from all over B'Kara and Mriehel to go to Valletta.
Then Bugibba started to be developed. Bus 49 was eventually introduced and ran every 30 minutes. It was then changed to every 15 minutes and eentually every 10 minutes. People then cottoned on to the idea that it would be easier to get the 49 bus to Valletta and eventually there were only one or two buses at the old station terminus. So the bus service evolved in time. Then there were buses that went from B'Kara to St Lukes at certain times of te day. There were buses that went from Bugibba to Golden Bay or to Sliema via the coast road.
The system should have been kept as it was and new bus routes evelved as they time goes by. Arriva and TM should go back and re-itroduce the old bus routes and take it from there.
Martin Bezzina Wettinger
Jul 8th 2011, 08:17
Professional MY FOOT. A professional would have thought of most of the problems before going into action. Did anyone actually time the new routes? The old routes took years to develop. You do not need a scientific study to tell you that few people need to travel between Marsascala and B'Bugia.
It is ridiculous that trips that used to take less than one hour with the old unprofessional system, are now taking almost three hours. This is a tiny island and the longest of trips should take at most 90 minutes.
Frustrated local.
Ms Francesca Abela
Jul 12th 2011, 16:16
Exactly Martin - today i have seen the 119 bus to B'Bugia go past Qaliet street with only 1 passenger, what a waste of money, fuel, human resources and a wasted trip. Whilst Marsascala residents who live in Jerma, Cerviola, San Tumas areas are crying out for a direct bus to Valletta. To get from the Airport to Marsascala now is 30 minutes plus a wait at Valletta and another 30 mins to get the X4 to Airport, whilst before it only took 30 minutes from Valletta to Marsascala. Progress - what progress?
Anthony Pace
Jul 8th 2011, 08:13
Many of these Arriva buses are refurbished buses running on clean unleaded petrol instead of diesel because they have been re-engineed purposly. Soon they will be emitting dirty fumes and they will no longer look new but old and dirty after a month running the buses.
Get smaller buses and get as many as there were before with the same routes and fares. The older system still made a profit and so should the new one.
A number of these buses are old London buses given a new lease of life, just as the old ones had been given a new life about ten years ago. So minister do not give us any more of this crap.
Get the old buses back on the road until Arriva or Non-arriva come up with answers or dump them and tell them to leave the islands for good and take all their belongings with them. Two decades of PN administration has brought these island to a debt unforseen before. Who is going to pay for all this? Our children or grandchildren.
hugh jars
Jul 8th 2011, 11:23
get a life bring them old heaps back, no thanks. nor the gorilla drivers. 21st century pal, live it or leave it
Anthony Pace
Jul 8th 2011, 14:58
Mr Jars whether you like it or not you are in Malta where everybody is as selfish and rude as the bus drivers only it doesn't always show. You just had to ignore the rudness or gorilla antics of the drivers.
Mr Jonathan Calleja
Jul 8th 2011, 21:21
There are only 6 long London Buses. All others are new. They ran on diesel and not on petrol. Imagine how they could run with petrol with AC full on.
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jul 8th 2011, 07:25
A good concept, but has started on the wrong foot. those articulated scrap they got from the UK which are being scraped as they have proven to be just scrap value.
gents this Malta The Rock, we have enough space for a KA or a Mini
Who in God's name opted for these monsturs? I know I am on the road 24/7
ask around and prove me wrong
Tony
Mr Alfred Cassar
Jul 7th 2011, 23:33
I'm really disappointed to the way the new bus system got underway. I used to go to work by bus some 3 years ago and was preparing to leave my car at home and start using the bus once again. By car it takes me 20 minutes from Attard to Sliema, by bus it takes me at least 90 minutes which is way too much. If/When the service improves and I can make it in 30/35 minutes as Arriva is saying, then I will definately switch.
I think the main culprit for this chaos are Transport Malta for fixing these strange bus routes which are more like a tour-to-the-island trip than bus routes in many cases.
The buses are very good, comfortable, well-mannered drivers, A/C and so on, but the routes are a complete disaster.
They should go back to the old bus routes and then start reforming the direct links, say Paola-Sliema, Sliema-Qawra, Paola-Mosta etc in order to avoid having to go to Valletta to change bus. Then continue with the process of increasing direct links and decreasing trips directly to Valletta but retaining Valletta as the main terminus. Direct links should be as short as possible.
As it is now it is very complicated to plan beforehand which buses you need to take to arrive at your destination. Arriva should print leaflets similar to the London Underground lines, showing all routes and interchanges. Their website is of little help, too complicated, incomplete and inaccurate.
Let's hope that something radical is changed and bold decisions are taken as otherwise we will still have to spend hours in travelling in this tiny island. Good luck
C Cremona
Jul 7th 2011, 19:54
I am posting this comment to put forward a suggestion in the name of numerous commuters. The bus to hospital is used by many people. During these months it is mainly used solely by patients, and people who work there. However as from October 11,000 university students , (not to mention also the sixth form students) will also be using these buses.
Therefore we feel that it is really irrelevant that there is an interchanging bus for people who do not live in the centre of Malta. I am currently using this bus every day and the journey is taking from 2.5 to 3 hours. Therefore I spend almost 6 hours transport time just for few miles. With the old bus system the journey lasted solely an hour.
Therefore we are proposing and begging Arriva to please reorganise the direct buses to hospital and university. We can’t imagine ourselves spending up to 6 hours transportation time to attend to few lectures. It is really inhumane considering the small size of our country and the central position of our hospital/ university.
Also, if the system will remain the same, we are considering organising coop red vans to take us there, because we are seriously frustrated with the current routes.
Paul Sammut
Jul 7th 2011, 19:14
iF we give arriva the time to settle down its the best service we ever had. I hope we do not go to the old system just because we are having a hard time getting use to it.
This is a profesional system and lets face it we are not use to such a high standard of public transport.
James Camilleri
Jul 8th 2011, 13:39
"the best service we ever had" "professional system" "high standard" ? Are you living in Alice in Wonderland jew? What is so best, so professional, so high about it. Because it is new, with ACs, which at times do not work, with equipment which do not work all the time, with hours long waits and with ever lasting trips. Dream on mate or wake up to reality.
Philip Hili
Jul 9th 2011, 01:07
@ Paul Sammut
It is not in the interest of some drivers and some public to give "Arriva" the time to settle down. From day one some of the drivers showed the Maltese public that they were engaged by "Arriva" to make things difficult and not to help the public. All this was premeditated and I am very sorry that nobody thought for such eventuality and the company was caught on the wrong foot.
I hope that these people will be BLACK LISTED from the company FOR GOOD as seamen used to be when they desert a vessel.
cettina portelli
Jul 15th 2011, 17:45
mr sammut....what a load of drivel you write! "best service" is a bus arriving full from xghajra which arrives in bormla via smart city, rinella and kalkara and ALWAYS late because the timings are ridiculous! its written on the site that it takes ONE MINUTE to get from kalkara to bormla....to get out of kalkara the bus has to go up a hill which in a car would take more than that so you can imagine how long a full bus would take. PLUS the population of xghajra in the summer swells considerably - as i KNOW happens in marsascala too(poor people of zabbar and fgura trying to get on a bus) - if you board a bus from xghajra, it takes AT LEAST one hour, if not longer to go to valetta! the people of the three cities have no early bus to take them to work and are arriving late. HOW CAN WE ACCEPT THIS AS A HIGH STANDARD OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT? we cant even walk to the closest villages, zabbar or fgura, and try to get on a bus there because they have the same problem as we have!!!!
Mario Desira
Jul 7th 2011, 19:02
Congratulations to Renzo Piano or his Maltese version for the absurd layout of the new Valletta Terminus.
People wait …
.presently for hours literally……for a bus. Since the buses are erratic and few in between many people accumulate. A Queue was never the best known letter of the alphabet to many Maltese so a queue usually consists of four or more parallel groups of people haphazardly behind each other.
Now what did the brilliant designers do? People wait near where the bus parks, so these brilliant designers placed a couple of tents at least three meters behind where people queue. The result is total chaos. People huddle together trying to get a little shade out of the trees which have little foliage. Two meters away from a tree and one is melting in the full blaze of the afternoon sun. Ofcourse some people cannot tolerate this heat and go under the tent. Once a bus comes, the people under the tent join the people about to board a bus, and mayhem and chaos results. Shouting swearing pushing suddenly erupts and if there was hardly a queue before there certainly isnt one now.
But that is ok, we had a grand opening to usher the new bus terminus.
A designer in his right mind would have designed a proper shelter for where the people actually queue for a bus not a few meters behind. Logic would have dictated a canopy of some sort at the edges of the pavement at the parking bays.
Please at least move these blessed tents at the very edge of the pavement so people can queue properly sheltered from the blazing sun. Some of us are spending hours involuntarily swearing and sunbathing in the heat because there is simply nowhere else to go! Put at least two tents next to each other because every queue is at least the equivalent of two tents long.
Logic would have dictated put the tents up before the service started not afterwards. Unfortunately what the public is witnessing and enduring has very little to do with logic at the moment. Fingers crossed that common sense is actually put in practice………and please a shelter from the sun and the rain ……..I am still trying to figure out how staying under a tree would prevent raindrops falling on our heads!
J. Schembri
Jul 7th 2011, 18:45
The Mater Dei transport service was not only for outpatients but also for University students and staff , hospital staff , factory workers in the San Gwann Industrial Estate , HSBC Call centre , the APS centre and the Swatar and B’Kara people who live near the Oratory.
Tony Caruana
Jul 7th 2011, 16:50
E. DELIA WHERE ARE YOU ?
Philip Hili
Jul 9th 2011, 01:13
@ Tony Caruana
What a childish comment!!!! Qiesek kont taf li ser jigri hekk sur Caruana!! Ma naghmlux moghod li kont xi instructor ghal din is-sitwazzjoni hux????
Sur Caruana, taf li t-tfal iz-zaghar jirragunaw hekk?
La s-Sur Delia, la l-Ministru u l-anqas l-ebda impjegat ta' "l-Arriva" ma tista' ssib ghax hadd minn dawn ma ghandu tort ghad-disastru li gabu d-DRIVERS!!!!!!
Frank Camilleri
Jul 7th 2011, 15:09
Please allow me comment in an objective way re the present ‘service’ rendered to the Maltese commuters by Arriva.
Many surely agree that before planning a bus route system, one should study the needs, culture and expectations of the cohort towards whom the route system is
addressed. It is a very serious short sight to use a bus route pattern/system without paying heed to these indicators.
Unfortunately, whoever planned the present route system simply ‘imposed’ the pattern, which may be suitable to large cities but definitely not to a small island like Malta.
Changing three buses to go to certain localities is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Waiting for hours for a bus is a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Change buses over relatively short distances a far cry from an efficient bus service.
Changing buses to go to Mater Dei apart from being a far cry from an efficient bus service is highly insensitive to the hustle and pain especially endured by the sick and the aged.
The Maltese way of life demands:
i.direct service to Valletta and back from and to every town and village as we used to have,
ii.direct service to Mater Dei as we used to have,
iii.frequent bust stops in strategic points within the village/ town as we used to have.
Mr David Martin, the buses are great, the drivers are wonderful. All that is needed for the success of Arriva in Malta can only be guaranteed by the reintroduction of the old route system.
The present route system ,at best can be at best described as short sighted,
disrupting, chaotic and insensitive
Finally, I implore you to pay heed to our needs by reintroducing the old route system for the benefit of all stakeholders.
Thank you.
Chris Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 15:52
You’re mistaken my friend this system is only suitable for tourists needs should it ever start to run as it should. That’s why no Mater Dei & University for example. Keep one thing in mind who’s got the highest fares I leave to you the answer.
Anyone with a little knowledge of public transport can see it.
Also this is a polite attack on the coaches, Taxies, minibuses and any operator that can compete in a way or another with Arriva in public Transport with the blessing of GOV.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 18:12
@Frank Camilleri:
Sorry but I don't agree to most of your article.
"Changing three buses to go to certain localities is a far cry from an efficient bus service."
On average, from my experience of the service so far, you can reach most destinations rather efficiently (once buses run on time, that is) by changing a bus only once, twice at most, which isn't much more inconvenient than the old system, where you had to first go to Valletta and change bus there anyway. The biggest difference is that now, you might need to change somewhere else, rather than in Valletta - and most likely somewhere closer to your destination. I think you're wrong about inefficiency; a star network (what we had before) is the most inefficient kind of network actually, because you often have to travel in opposite direction (towards valletta) before getting to your destination.
"Waiting for hours for a bus is a far cry from an efficient bus service"
Agree 100%, but we expect this to improve within a week or two according to contract terms... so this should be a temporary issue
"Change buses over relatively short distances a far cry from an efficient bus service"
Although this system is used in very large cities like London, I've traveled for shorter distances than the ones I travel here within London centre, using the underground train system, and I rarely ever got where I wanted to go without taking less than two trains or having to change after a minute or two of travelling... Yes, London is huge, but it still makes sense to travel using this system even short distances within the city centre... once you get used to it.
"Changing buses to go to Mater Dei apart from being a far cry from an efficient bus service is highly insensitive to the hustle and pain especially endured by the sick and the aged".
This is the one point I tend to agree with you most on. However, there may be other solutions to this. Perhaps, co-op services could provide this sort of service, just for the elderly.
Coming to what you say the Maltese way of life demands:
"i.direct service to Valletta and back from and to every town and village as we used to have,"
Sorry this is not what the Maltese way of life demands, but what apathy to inform oneself and resistance to change demands, Maltese way of life, just like any other way of life, demands getting where you have to go efficiently, and fast. How you do that is irrelevant; if you're willing to learn and adapt.
"ii.direct service to Mater Dei as we used to have,"
Yes, just to be sensitive to the elderly. But perhaps through other means.
"iii. frequent bust stops in strategic points within the village/ town as we used to have. "
Frequent yes, and I think they will improve in time. But when it comes to bus stops, some bus stops have been removed, while others have been added. Some people lose, some people gain; you can't please everyone. What's sure is that it won't do this obese nation any harm to walk an extra five or ten minutes every day!
What I'm saying is this: some of the routes are indeed much longer than what they used to be, and they definitely need tweaking. But in like 80% of cases, whenever I hear people moan about the new bus routes I find that they haven't picked the best route for their journey, either out of lack of knowledge, or because they're not willing to change buses at interchanges. For that, I blame the general public for their unwillingness to change mindset, and Arriva for not doing a great job at informing the public and working to change the mentality. In fact, in some cases (e.g. through the journey planner online), it gives wrong or misleading information.
Now go ahead and tell me I'm nuts. :)
Mark Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 15:00
Quoting from the article above
"A spokesman for the Ministry of Transport - Emanuel Delia - will be clarifying or correcting some of the points raised by readers."
WHERE IS EMANUEL DELIA NOW? Is he replying questions?
Marisa Spiteri
Jul 7th 2011, 13:13
Mgarr - the place where everybody comes to eat rabbit but forgets it exists when it comes to bus service. This route is one of those routes which gives you a scenic tour of Malta. It goes through, Mosta, Naxxar, Gharghur, Xwieki, San Gwann, Kappara, Dingli Street, Ferries, Msida, Pieta, Bombi and finally Valletta (a trip of about 2 hours). Any chance of having some sort of transport which takes us straight to Valletta or if this is impossible a mini van from Mosta/Rabat to Mgarr every 30 minutes. This would accomodate commuters and the thought of leaving their cars at home could come back to mind. Thanks and please do give us a break.
Mr Clyde Ellul
Jul 7th 2011, 17:17
Dear Marisa,
That's only if you get bus 23 and stay on it till you get to Valletta. You could have gotten off the bus at Mosta, and then you could have gotten bus 31 to Valletta, which would have cut off a substantial chunk off the scenic route you mentioned (about half an hour's worth!). And when buses start operating on schedule, the total journey time using this combination would have been just over an hour. Still a bit long perhaps, but much better than what you're saying.
Your post just goes to prove what I've been saying all along... that people are whining about the new routes but don't bother finding out how they can make the best use of them, and are still travelling with the mindset that they have to stay on the same bus to go anywhere, if possible.
VINCENT WILLIAMS
Jul 7th 2011, 13:02
This morning it took me from 8.30am to 10.00am to travel from Hamrun to Valletta by Arriva bus. The new bus system is not suitable for Malta and the Government must do something as soon as possible.
Vince Williams
hugh jars
Jul 7th 2011, 22:19
AND.....not suitable, no cos u r still inthe 19th century. Get to work late, shame leave earlier dood
K Galea
Jul 7th 2011, 12:39
Xi haga urgenti hemm bzonn li ssir fuq ir-rotta tal-Fgura in-Numru 91. Ma jistax ikun li rotta wahda trid taqdi 4 irhulha kbar bhal ma huma M'Scala, Zabbar, Fgura u Paola. Qabel mill-Fgura kienu jaddu 17, 18, 19, 20 u 21 u issa spicajna b'rotta wahda BISS (No.91). L-arriva qeghdin jintlew minn M'Scala b'detriment li meta jaslu Zabbar u Fgura jkunu diga mimlijin. Nissugerixi li ghandhom jinholqu 2 rotot godda (ex 92 li tkun titlaq minn Zabbar u 93 li tkun titlaq mill-Fgura). Dan isolvi drastikament il-problemi li qeghdin jaddu minnhom ta' kuljum ir-residenti tan-naha t'isfel ta' Malta.
Ms N Buttigieg
Jul 7th 2011, 12:20
After the first 5 days, the service is a complete disaster. This is the worst public transport service I have ever seen in Malta.
Mr Rob Aldona
Jul 7th 2011, 09:45
I suggest some of the old yellow buses be returned to service primarily for the tourists business. On my frequent trips to Malta I along with many other tourists really enjoyed the old buses and actually found the service pretty good. The service provided was frequent and getting around the Island was a breeze.
Adrian Bajada
Jul 6th 2011, 20:59
I would hate to see the Arriva people in an Arena and surrounded by lions. But it looks this way. The comments are all political or attack on Arriva. The situation is not good for sure but it takes a bit of time to have it full proof. If the Brit drivers are being paid 15 euro an hour you must realize that they didn't have to come here to malta to help us out when those old drivers refused to work. So let's be thankfull...
Mr Joe Gatt
Jul 7th 2011, 10:01
Arriva could have simply brought over to Malta their Busses and Drivers in Gozo, on a temporary basis.
Whilst Arriva could have contracted a local coach Company to cover Gozo in the meantime, temporarily.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 6th 2011, 20:42
Is-servizz illum l-Erbgħa kien aħjar mill-jumejn li għaddew.
Jien użajt is-servizz u wasalt ftit tard filgħodu.
Wara nofsinhar kien ferm aħjar.
Erġajt ħriġt illejla bl-istess biljett
ui l-karozzi kienu fil-ħin.
Ħafna telf ta' ħin qed isir bil-passiġieri jistaqsu mistoqsijiet lid-driver
li diġa' għandhom ir-risposti tagħhom fil-leaflets li rċevew.
Hemm ukoll karozzi privati li jimblukkaw it-toroq għall-buses.
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James Camilleri
Jul 8th 2011, 13:49
Mela qabel ma kienx hawn karrozzi jimblukkaw toroq miss? Forsi dawn hargu biex ikomplu jpperfezzjonaw mas-sabutagg
Leonard Schembri
Jul 6th 2011, 20:16
Very cold indeed. Please reduce the temperature of the conditioners.
Veronica Debattista
Jul 7th 2011, 07:48
they need to be cold since the poor drivers are made to wear a shirt and tie in summer!!!!
Colin Ritchie
Jul 6th 2011, 19:47
I would like to know are the stories we are hearing back in the UK True?
At this time there is no bus washing machine on site?
Also due to lack on maltess staff UK drivers are being shipped in at 15 euros an hour, when home grown drivers are getting 35 euros per day?
There are no servicing staff for the new fleet.?
There are some towns villages only getting 1 or 2 buses a day ?
henry spiteri
Jul 6th 2011, 20:11
well done Ritchie thats what we want to read not nonsence polictcs.ARE U MALTESE????????????????
Mr Joshua Attard
Jul 7th 2011, 10:55
at the moment maltese drivers on a split shift are being paid 65 euros a day . And if thats how much they are paid in the u.k then they should earn it while they are here... cause who's coming over to malta to work if they are not paid well ? . Bus drivers earn more in the u.k because for a mile journey I was charged about 5 pounds.. one way ! Cost of living is higher
henry spiteri
Jul 6th 2011, 19:09
il kitba takom uzawa b mod kostruttiv u atu idejat u suggerimenti validi halli b hekk jirrangaw il problemi li inholqu ax bl insulti u id dgergir ma ha insolvu xejn
Mario Desira
Jul 6th 2011, 18:52
Since Ministry for Transport, Arriva and Transport Malta have not yet managed to solve the chaos----- allow me as a member of the public to go where no man has gone before……and propose a solution.
You all thought that by reducing 500 buses to 220 and making them work like clockwork the system would run efficiently. You thought 5 minutes made a difference (as witnessed in the Bisazza street Blunder) when everyone knows 20 minutes stuck in a traffic jam every morning is the norm……..Add the non-attendance by the previous thug-drivers and the never tested and not working Arriva information software then we wonder why we are in such a chaos.
Solution - deploy all available Arriva buses on the direct (to Valletta) routes. If there are any left deploy this on feeder/indirect /circular routes . If non are left bad luck, add them when drivers are available. Arriva is not meeting its contractual obligations on the direct routes anyway. Implement this strategy and things will move quickly forward……….otherwise the chaos will remain, tourists are swearing not to return (they told me so personally) and once this is on the news abroad it will make Arriva look like a bunch of amateurs…….
The wise guys who claimed only 20 per cent of people use public buses to Valletta should know that most people use the buses to go to Valletta even if they are NOT going to Vallletta. It does not need genius to figure this one out…….as someone who actually travels by bus rather than plot strategies and go home in a comfy personal car, I can vouch that people do not want to be exposed to harsh weather on a bus stop and they do not want to risk one bus after another passing by full up – so they go to Valletta even if that is not their final destination because it makes no sense otherwise ….at Valletta they ensure they are sitting on a bus not left on some desolate stage ……
If the authorities give no response to this or tell us why it wont work………then we are dealing with unprecedented arrongance. I really hope common sense starts prevailing.
Elizabeth Hair
Jul 6th 2011, 18:38
OK so Arriva has only been running things for 3 days and I DO commend the drivers and officials at the stages for trying to calm a chaotic situation, but I have spent three days so far this week, arriving at a Fgura Bus stop at 6am, not being able to catch a bus till 7am and consequently by then due to traffic I arrive in Valletta at 8am
I strongly urge Arriva to look into the situation concerning the 91 bus because there simply isnt enough being used (in an hour I see two and those drive by full)
angela sultana
Jul 6th 2011, 18:23
I think we should have had a referendum to decide whether we wanted a new messed up transport system or the old but know where you are transport system after all. This should have been the people's choice like divorce as after all itie the man in the street who is facing the chaos not the top brass.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 6th 2011, 20:39
The people wouild certainly have voted for Arriva.
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Louis Cassar
Jul 6th 2011, 17:47
I liked the "old" buses, they used to give a retro look of Malta and they are more attractive to tourists. But new buses are needed. What I have seen from the many comments it seems that they entire project wasn't planned very well and this causes a lot of distress to tourist and Maltese people. Although I never use a bus when I visit Malta, still I would like to see the old buses.
And one more thing. The new buses are big for a small place like Malta and I believe they should have brought smaller buses, since they are more flexible to move around instead of a big bus trying to move in narrow and crowdy roads like we have in Malta
ALBERT GALEA
Jul 6th 2011, 17:44
ARRIVA IS PROGRESS P.N. STYLE. FIRST MATER DAI ,NOW ARRIVA.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 6th 2011, 20:37
If this is the only type of criticism Labour is able to make,
then Labour is really not prepared to govern.
Mater Dei was very good progress.
You can ask most patients there.
Arriva will also be very good progress
after the sabotage of the 56 old drivers is beaten.
I hope other Labour supporters can come up with better than
Mr Albert Galea's 'criticism' which just shows Labour
at its very worst. You deserve better.
Mr Joe Gatt
Jul 7th 2011, 16:29
MaryJo Camenzuli
Mater Dei was very good progress.
You can ask most patients there.
Mary Jo, you are so right
Arriva at present, is an exact copy of our new State of The Art Hospital` Mater Dei`
Its ok, but ONLY if you can make it There
Adrian Bajada
Jul 6th 2011, 16:52
I must say that I am really surprised by the way that some of the older inspectors attitudes have changed for the better. You don't feel threatened to go up to them to ask for help. But the public must give the inspectors and drivers a chance. We are all in this together. It is a new system and it needs adjusting. Did the old system before provide tents to shade from the hot Sun?
But not all is Rosy. I think Arriva came to Malta like a bolt of lightning. Too fast and not enough time for training and planning. Yesterday I walked down to the Strand in Sliema to catch the 116 circular. I was patient and waited about an hour and half as I was in no hurry. But then I got fed up and walked to were the Inspector was. He told me that the 116 has not started the route yet. I think becaue buses were short or whatever. A woman close by heard and said that she rode it the day before. The inspector said there was no way and it couldn't be. I got on another bus which I was the only passenger and the driver asked me for directions as he is from another village. The whole thing was rushed and Arriva should have waited some more time before going on the road..
Mr Joe Gatt
Jul 7th 2011, 19:34
Adrian Bajada
Did the old system before provide tents to shade from the hot Sun?
Did`nt have to, Those old Ficus Trees did.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 6th 2011, 15:35
Għadu kmieni wara tlett ijiem biex wieħed verament
jiġġudika s-sistema l-ġdida tat-trasport pubbliku.
Il-problema hi d-dewmien u m'għandix dubju li Arriva
qed jaħdmu b'ilsienhom barra biex isolvuha
Dak li ilna ngergru fuqu deċennji - arroganza tad-drivers,
dħaħen, sistema tad-dinosawri, bilfors trid tidħol il-Belt u terġa' tħallas -
qed ikun solvut.
Jonqos il-frekwenza tas-servizz li nafu għaliex marret żmerċ
minħabba d-drivers - 56 - li ppruvaw jissabotaġġjaw is-sistema.
Sistema ġdida fjamanta trid tindera kemm mis-sewwieqa stess
u anke mill-passiġieri li ħafna minnhom għadhom ma drawx
is-servizzi diretti li bihom m'hemmx għalfejn tidħol il-Belt.
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Mr Noel Cutajar
Jul 6th 2011, 14:53
The fact that prior to the 3rd July, E. Delia used to answer questions and now he is dead silent says it all...
Giovanna Rinaldi
Jul 6th 2011, 13:45
I'm an italian tourist arrived yesterday here in Malta and I'm already disappointed and upset: this morning I waited for 2 hours (10.05 - 12.00) a bus to go to Mellieha from St Julian's (number 11). And after waiting in the sun for two hours with a lot of other tourists complaining about the terrible transport service, a bus passed by and didn't stop making everyone got really nervous and angry. At the end we decided to go home, after 2 hours of a mad waisting of time...do you think is it normal for a country in which the main economic incomes are based on tourism to give the very bad impression of that people's time is worthless and no one seems to care about tourists' needs?If something like this had happened in Milan, the city where I come from, all the responsibles of this surreal situation would have been fired the next day.
Robert G
Jul 6th 2011, 22:13
Whilst I fully agree with your comments in regards to how at least certain emergency structures should have been put in place to deal with the shortage on popular routes, I cannot fail to comment on your last sentence.
I haven't been to Milan for a year, and was wondering if Malpensa airport closed down due to shortage of staff. Have they all been fired? As the last couple of times I visited the info desk was empty; I always end up stranded for at least 30 minutes at the luggage claim due to broken or missing luggage (but I know this is to be expected and calculated in the travel timings when passing through Malpensa). Also the last time I didn't find any staff to talk to to try to get medical assistance as a barman at the airport had just been exposed to a coffee machine vapour in his face; One of the people in my party (a doctor) was medicating him using our own tour first aid thus losing 30 minutes (additional to the 45 at the luggage desk) because of which we missed the last train to our final destination; And if I am not mistaken the airport has been operating for more than 3 days right?
rien langerveld
Jul 6th 2011, 13:12
Monday justified complaints of lack of shelters at Valetta terminal. Thuesday i witnessed tents placed to shelter cues from the sun. You can say what you want,but i do not normal see these fast actions happening. I do not know who is resposible for it,Arriva or MTA,but i have a feeling Arriva.
And people the air is clean and a lot of noise is gone. I live near a busy road and use to be woken up at 6 by the oldtimers,now i wake up by an alarmclock. Could be immagination offcourse . It will turn out just once the start up problems are under control.
Rien Langerveld
Mr Brian Camilleri
Jul 6th 2011, 14:31
Thumbs up. Well said. !!
Mario Desira
Jul 6th 2011, 12:26
If I needed further proof of incompetence the way the new public transport system was designed, I got it this morning. The 72 route (Qrendi) to Valletta had the stage at Sarria Floriana removed. So anybody wanting to disembark at Floriana is taken to Valletta and has to walk back to Floriana! Like this route there are many others, only a privileged half a dozen buses stop at Floriana! This is absurd. Transport Malta kindly rectify immediately! This is all we need in addition to taking over two hours to arrive (and late!) at work!.
I think it is about time the public got together and start suing the authorities for all this hassle!!
Elizabeth Hair
Jul 6th 2011, 18:58
a lady I spoke to on my bus said there used to be a direct bus from Marsascala to Cospicua, that has been scrapped and she now has to catch a bus to Paola and one from there to Cospicua
Noel Mifsud
Jul 6th 2011, 11:18
L-ikbar problema li tezisti f'din is-sistema huwa Emanuel Delia, ghax l-ewwel u qabel kollox irid ikun tajjeb biex jghamilha man-nies u jkun kapaci jisma dak li ghandu xi jghid haddiehor ukoll.
Lil kumpanija Arriva rridu naghtuha cans biex tidhol fis-sistema.
Skond l-opinjoni tieghi, min ghamel ir-rottot haseb li in-nies filghodu qabel imorru ghax-xoghol jiehdu pjacir jaghmlu 'tour' madwar Malta.
Mr Giovanni Rizzo
Jul 5th 2011, 23:33
With all the difficulties Arriva are facing,in the end the good and efficient service will prevail.Just give the new drivers a GPS for a secured good result.
Mr Mario Mifsud
Jul 5th 2011, 22:36
I am of the opinion that such a radical reform of the public transport system should have been planned with greater involvement of the public, as represented by local councils and by other civic committees. This is not the responsibility of the operator (ARRIVA Ltd) which is a commercial concern but of the Regulator - The Transport Ministry and its agency Transport Malta.
This is a very radical reform and involves many aspects ,however how the reform is going to impact the public is not to be decided without public consultation. In the same manner as Mepa consults the public on demolition of buildings etc , so Transport Malta has to consult the public and public organisations on the changing of the bus routes.
The quality of the service that ARRIVA is offering is a big improvement on the service that was offered by the previous operator - the buses are air-conditioned ,comfortable and so on - and the drivers are polite and courteous. However for the commuter overriding all this is the time-factor,how long does it take to arrive at destination point from departure point.
Here I am not referring to the present delays due to the shortage of drivers - which to my mind has not been thoroughly explained by the authorities, since the drivers should not have been handed their time-tables on the eve of the introduction of the service. However that is another matter !
To safeguard the commuter's interest Transport Malta must ensure that the travelling time in NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES is not unduly longer than under the old service.
In this regard I appeal to the Consumers Association and the governmental Consumers Division to take up the matter.
Martin Attard
Jul 5th 2011, 21:48
I waited for the 62 (siggiewi- Valletta) bus this morning from 7.18 to 7.35, i finally gave up and used my car. This afternoon I waited for the 71 or 72 bus from 17.10 to 17.40, guess what none turned up. On both routes there supposed to be a bus every quarter of an hour.
As I said yesterday, well done everybody, what a show!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mario Camilleri
Jul 5th 2011, 18:19
Even a blind man can see that the old drivers had prepared for this revenge for long!!!! this is what they wanted to happen!! and the GWU will defend them??!!! this is a clear message...its all politics so that people can say what they wish agains the government...i just want to ask the GWU and other unions...i was absent from work for two or moe days without a reason (although these drivers had a reason - to disrupt all the transport servves) what would happend to me?? FIRED!!! Good job arriva...
hugh jars
Jul 5th 2011, 18:51
Well said, too many whingers as usual. These old heap drivers probably row with themselves while shaving, Arriva will win in the end
Mr D Borg
Jul 5th 2011, 22:47
I agree with your argument. However I see the whole episode in more positive light. I think that it was Arriva's method of getting rid of the old system drivers. They came up with the additional hours shift on purpose, so the old drivers would revert to their old habits of threatening and striking. This would give Arriva a valid reason to get rid of them. Well done!
Maria Zerafa
Jul 5th 2011, 15:45
The grumbling and negative comments are music to my ears. The people are getting what they asked for, I believe that they never really cared what the standard of the new service will be, they thought it will be a heaven on earth service as long as it is not from the bus owners and drivers. All they wanted was that whatever happened it was to the detriment of the owners and drivers of the buses. That is how most people grew up to believe, they bus owners are of a lower standard than others. They were working for their families like everyone else does, nothing more, nothing less.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 16:34
Naturalment,
il-famillji tad-drivers l-antiki qed jieħdu gost
li s-sabutaġġ li ħasbu irnexxa, anke jekk għal ftit ġranet.
Imma l-inkonvenjent ta' dawn l-aħħar ġranet
għalina l-passiġġieri m'hu xejn
ħdejn dak li għaddewna minnu d-drivers l-antiki
li tant qdewna ħażin u kasbruna għal ħafna snin.
Arriva msieken ma ndunawx xi ħdura w lanżit
għandhom għalihom id-drivers l-antiki.
U ma ndunawx kemm huma vendikattivi
li jaslu li japplikaw en masse biex taparsi jaħdmu
u fl-ewwel ġurnata ma jmorrux
ħalli jissabutaġġjaw is-servizz.
Imma s-servizz ma sfrattax, anzi ġej f'tiegħu bil-mod -
illum qbadt kemm mainline routes u anke direct routes -
u n-nies kellhom tifħir għas-servizz,
għall-buses u għad-drivers il-ġodda.
Jekk id-drivers l-antiki qed jieħdu gost
u t-tgergir jisimgħuh 'mużika ħelwa f'widnejhom',
aħna l-passiġġieri qed nieħdu gost ukoll
li fl-aħħar qed titwettaq ħolma li ilna noħolmu 40 sena.
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MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 15:27
It is clear today that things are slowly settling down,
despite the obvious premeditated sabotage
by 56 of the 470 drivers.
People I know at work who usually use public transport
have had delays of not longer than 45 minutes
and many of them have actually arrived on time.
I have seen fewer people on bus stops,
and more mainline routes and local routes are running.
I've seen no unusual traffic jams
which should mean that there was no
great exodus from public to private transport.
And those who did use public transport
are full of praise for the buses and the drivers.
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James Camilleri
Jul 5th 2011, 19:39
Are you an Arriva PR? No traffic jams etc and everything seems to so much better. Qormi and Paola just to mention two areas were fully congested all day long caused mostly by buses trying to manoeuvre buses which are too long to take certain curves. So much needs to be reconsidered not least the new routes and the so many interchanges - impractical, useless and making journeys so much longer. (A journey from Paola to Blata l-Bajda, usually taking 15 minutes, took me 1hour 5 minutes because of the many detours). People will be rushing to use private transport more thanever
Alex Taylor
Jul 6th 2011, 00:02
OK. Join me in San Pawl tomorrow to try and get to Sliema. See how happy you are to wait for hours on end as bus after bus drives past you full.
T Smith
Jul 6th 2011, 16:15
@MaryJo Camenzuli
I agree with you, monday was a nightmare, i got to work 30 minutes late because of the bus service, but the past two days the buses have been on time. and i like Alex Taylor travel from st.pauls bay to sliema, first i need to get a bus to buigbba then out to sliema, i leave at 730 and arrive at 9, Alex it depends what time you leave st.pauls and what stop you stand at, i get the bus from near HSBC bank its never full there, and straight out to sliema afterward. Today and Tuesday i waited no longer than 15 minutes per bus which is very reasonable !!
Martin Attard
Jul 6th 2011, 18:49
Few people at bus stops? That's because I, for one, had to use my car again. This morning I waited for the 71 or 72 bus, I was on the stage at 7.10 up to 7.35, a bus finally arrived, and guess what, it was full up. During that time frame of 7.10 to 7.35 there should have been at least two buses.
Same as yesterday.
If you really think that this service is not working properly because of the 56 strikers, please think again.
I don't blame ARRIVA entirely, the slowness on wokrs on some major roads are also contibuting to traffic jams.
G Briffa
Jul 7th 2011, 08:07
ma hlist xejn mix xufiera antiki ghax hemmqedin mal arriva daqs kemm nista nghid jien ma tistax tghid int
Chris Vella
Jul 7th 2011, 15:59
do you work for arriva or what
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jul 5th 2011, 12:55
A certain E Delia from the Ministry of Transport was being quite informative in answering comments posted on this blog. All of a sudden he went dead and let comments accumulate with no further communication or clarification on his part. Once a person takes on the role of an official spokesman he or his delegates must sustain the client initiative if he is to be be seen as being truly helpful and supportive .At least if he is not in a position to communicate further he should ask for the points of view page to be removed.
Antonella Gili
Jul 5th 2011, 11:25
Meta kellna: karozzi se jaqghu bicciet, kollhom storbju, xi drivers bil-qmis miftuha, xi drivers li tibza ssaqsihom mistoqsija ghax jahtfuk, karozzi li jdumu biex jaslu seklu, shana taqsam fil-karozza jew issir ghasra ghax it-tieqa ma tinghalaqx - konna ngergru...issa li dawn waqfu...xorta ngergru! Xi kultant il-Maltin hekk biss iridu jaghmlu...igergru u jmaqdru....specjalment jekk xi haga tkun marbuta mal-politika! L-opinjoni tieghi: biex forsi naghtu naqra cans sakemm is-servizz tal-Arriva jsib siequ u mhux immaqqdru wara l-ewwel gurnata! Jien irkibt il-karozzi l-godda...vera li domt daqxejn nistenna biex nirkeb mill-Belt...imma tafu ghalfejn? Ghax kull min beda jigi warajja beda jimbotta u jitla qabbli. Il-problema ma kinietx tal-linja, imma n-nies maledukati li nzertajt mieghi!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 15:36
Sewwa qed tgħid, Ms Gili.
Jien użajt tal-linja l-ġodda kemm ilhom li bdew u kull darba
fuq il-bus ftit nies kienu jafu li m'hemmx għalfejn tmur il-Belt
biex tibdel minn rotta għal oħra.
Anke bdew joħorġu fare ta' €1.30 meta
b'€1.50 jistgħu jużaw is-servizz il-ġurnata kollha kemm iridu
(l-anzjani €0.50 biss).
L-Arriva bagħtet ħafna informazzjoni fid-djar
li jiena u xi ftit oħrajn qed inġorru magħna,
imma ħafna nies lanqas biss qraw l-informazzjoni.
Joqogħdu jistaqsu ħafna mistoqsijiet lid-driver
meta għandhom ir-risposti fil-leaflets,
u sadattant ta' warajhom jistennew.
L-ewwel ma ninfurmawx irwieħna,
imbagħad irridu nwaħħlu f'xi ħadd ieħor...
Jien m'għandix xi simpatija lejn dal-Gvern,
imma li hu ngħidu.
Is-sistema tajba ħafna - bħal ta' barra jew aħjar.
Fl-aħħar kien hawn xi ħadd kellu l-guts jeqred
l-arroganza tal-bus drivers l-antiki.
Issa nisperaw li s-sabutaġġ li għamlu meta
56 minnhom ma daħlux għax-xogħol apposta
jieqaf u s-sistema żgur taħdem aħjar.
L-uniku żball li għamlu Arriva hu li ma ndunawx
xi ħdura, lanżit u vendikazzjoni
għandhom id-drivers l-antiki.
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Gordon Farrugia
Jul 5th 2011, 11:22
I wo..wou...would....would....li...li..like.to....to....co....comm...comm...comment....on A...A....A....A....Arriva se.ser....ser....service... but I'm ss.....s.....sss.....stilll trrrrrrrrrembling t.....t.....thanks to.to.to.to the Full Blast AC!!!!!
I Bugeja
Jul 5th 2011, 11:18
I used the old service one last time 2 days before stopping the service (hurray!!!) to go to the Isle of MTV and 'typically' the charge was EUR2.00 for four people; No change obviously! Driving behind the new buses is also pleasing. No major exhaust fumes like the old buses and although some buses are longer than their old counterparts, some are actually making an effort to fit in the bus stops and not frustrating drivers by stopping in the middle of the road.
Finally I want to say that it is nice to see well dressed drivers of nice character. If ARRIVA failed us on the first day, the drivers who stayed did not and deserve a big well done especially in this time when it is harder to work with more pressure and I am sure listening only to grumbling does not help. Well done!!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 15:37
Did you notice how less noisy the roads are without the old buses?
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M. Calleja
Jul 5th 2011, 11:17
No matter how many miles we are away from a perfect bus services under the Arriva administration, I would never opt to go back to the rickety buses and foul-mouthed (not all but most) drivers at their helm.
I am looking forward to leaving my car back home and opt for the better, decent, dignified Arriva bus service.
The bus drivers in their smart uniforms are a pleasure to the eye and to encourage them I am saying thank you everytime I alight from the bus.
Michael Attard
Jul 5th 2011, 09:21
I find the new buses quite nice an all BUT
A/C is on full blast, expect a lot of sick people, No windows either
Getting to your destination is extremley long where as it took me 45 mins its taking 1hour and 30 mins now
The drivers are neat looking well groomed the bus is tidy but i prefer the old bus system, I miss the swearing funny looking ugly drivers, Sorry but i do lol
Dennis Calleja
Jul 5th 2011, 11:16
Before a trip from St Paul's Bay to University used to take me around 45 Minutes ! Today I arrived at work after spending around 1 hour 30 Minutes travelling on buses and another hour waiting and changing stages. In all a 45 minute journey was done in a whopping 2.5 Hours!! I use buses every day but simply cannot afford to waste all this time on public transport !! Hope the situation improves with time! Till now I am going to revert back to my car since I consider it to be more reliable!! I Hope that this evening's journey will be better and hopefully by midnight I would be at home!!!
Vanessa Walker
Jul 5th 2011, 14:12
Agreed a hundred and one per cent!!!
Phil Humphries
Jul 5th 2011, 02:38
Arriva expected to be compensated following the perdestrianisation of Bisazza Street and the re-routing of its service. It was reported that the amount of compensation is set-out in the operating contract, so will the Minister kindly tell us if Arriva are contractually bound to pay compensation for each day they fail to provide the service levels specified in the contract ? If so, then how much ? And, if not to the inconvenienced passengers, then to whom would any compensation be paid ?
hugh jars
Jul 5th 2011, 10:19
When you start a new job are you Mr Perfect fom day 1? You people make me sck. You moaned about the old heaps polluting the air, the arrogant ....holes for drivers.......get a life
Phil Humphries
Jul 5th 2011, 02:20
Austin Gatt warned there would be a few 'teething problems'. Well, now he knows what bus users think of his brainchild, I would be interested to know what he now thinks about it.
Fancy giving the buses a try, Austin ? .... Austin ? .............. Emanuel, have you seen Austin ?
john zerafa
Jul 5th 2011, 00:15
Give them time, even God admitted to a mistake when He nearly destroyed humanity, why should mere mortals be perfect
Patrick Buhagiar
Jul 4th 2011, 23:34
Kemm kont kuntent bil karozzi l-antiki! Jien student ta 17-il sena' u kuljum kont nuza tal-linja, kemm biex immur l-iskola, kemm ghall-Belt, u kemm biex immur nghum. Jien minn Tas-Sliema Kont immur kemm sa l-Ghadira u kemm sa B'bugia u qatt ma gergirt.
Nifhem li l-bidla hija difficli, imma jien nikkritika n-nuqqas ta hsieb u preparazzjoni kemm ta' L-Arriva u kemm xi daqxejn min naha tal-gvern.
Jien naqbel li il karozzi l-antiki kienu storbjuzi u mahmugin, imma min naha tieghi, jien kont narahom bhala parti mil-kultura taghna, specjalment il karozzi mil-qodma nett. Ukoll kien ikun ghal vantagg tieghi ghax kien irhis.
Lewwel haga li laqtitni mil-karozzi l-godda hija n-nuqqas ta' twieqi miftuhin. Nifhem li tkun qed tahli hafna jekk tiftah tieqa meta jkollok air-condition ghaddejja imma alahares titla xi persuna b'xi marda bhas-Swine Flu! kont nippreferi nitfa idi mat tieqa, inhoss ir-rih ghaddej ma xaghri.
Biex nikkonkludi nixtieq nghid prosit lit tibdil tat-terminus, ikolli nammetti li ghamlu xoghol sabih. ukoll alavolja nikkritika il-gvern ghan-nuqqas ta hsieb dwar xufiera li jbiddlu ma l-arriva, napprezza immens (u hawnekk nahseb hadd ma ta kas) l-isforz tajjeb li ghamlu ix xufiera fl-ahhar gurnata tas-servizz tahhom.
Din hija l-opinjoni ta student ta 17-il sena.
Mr Charles Muscat
Jul 5th 2011, 14:14
Believe it or not
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 15:42
Sorry,
is-servizz illum hu aħjar u irħas minn qabel.
B'€1.50 (jew €6.50 fil-ġimgħa) tista' tmur fejn trid
mhux bħal qabel meta jien kelli naqbad erba' buses
(€2 għax bqija ma kienu jtuk qatt inkella kienu jimlewk 1cents).
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Joseph Gaffarena
Jul 4th 2011, 22:55
We have to give Arriva a chance to settle.
I, am more than sure that with this service we are more professional than those incidents we used to
have with those drivers.
Yes, we are going to have a state of the art service from Arriva
D. Armeni
Jul 4th 2011, 22:55
Can anyone explain to me why Bus No 125 goes only one way through Psaila Street, from Hamrun to B'kara and has no return? So if i want to go towards Hamrun, St. Lukes, and Valletta, i should walk about 1.5km every day to St. Joseph High Road (Strada Reali) to catch a bus in cold, rainy and hot weather? Even the customer care from ARRIVA could not answer my question. Where is the logic behind it? Tell it to senior citizens.
Moreover i walked all the way up to stage Mile End 1 to find that the bus number 125 has vanished from the stage ( not as stated on the ARRiVA Route map) Yes indeed exactly when i was there bus 125 passed by and kept on going not even stopping at the stage, no wonder it was not on the stage list.
I followed another track on the map for Bus X3 but i got lost in B'kara as there was no more indication where the bus was heading to. Why are the signs still not all in place? and why are some soooo misleading? Is ARRIVA well prepared for the new bus system? Or else shall we blame it on the drivers for not showing up?
ARRIVA please take note.
Charles Vassallo
Jul 4th 2011, 21:44
The driver's issue will gradually be solved without, but some route problems are structural and unless common sense prevails the commuters will suffer. Here is one example:
The old bus service to from Valletta to Pembroke and vice versa (no. 66) used to go through the town streets and pick passengers from the various bus stops laid throughout.
With the new system a circular bus (no 114) stops at 21 stages between Swieqi and Pembroke once every half an hour to take you at the Pembroke park & Drive so then you can go on another bus No. 11 or 12) that takes you to Valletta.
Should you miss the circular bus, you either have to wait for the next one or go for a 15 minutes walk (come rain or sunshine) to the Pembroke Park & Drive. It does not make sense at all.
Please this is constructive critisism, and wish you good luck.
Charles Vassallo
Mark Jones
Jul 4th 2011, 21:28
What good is a 2-hour ticket when it took a lady 4 hours to get from St Paul's Bay to Sliema this morning? Does she have to pay twice?
Transport Malta OUT
Austin Gatt OUT
Arriva OUT
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 16:25
The two-hour ticket is impractical.
She should have bought a full day ticket for €1.50
(€0.50 if she's older than 60)
which entitles her to the return trip and any other trip
she might wish to make on that same day.
This was all explained in the leaflets
that Arriva sent to all households
but that no one seems to have read.
In any case, most public transport today is free
and I would be very surprised if she had to pay again.
.
patrick spiteri
Jul 4th 2011, 21:16
Came back from work [in my car] after seeing a bendy bus being towed on the Qormi by pass ,oh well
these things happen .But upon entering the door to my home my wife and daughter starts on how long it took to got on a bus and from gzira to sliema to get to valletta and 45 mins at valletta and paying for a day ticket when she only wanted a 2 hr ticket actually she only wanted to get home which takes 10 mins from valletta to gzira.......................but...........................Maybe things will get better in time..........but people don't have time . people need to go to work.every day .on time. this is not a holiday resort for us .
SO FOR NOW .......... ARRIVA ARRIVA ARRIVA U MA TASAL QATT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Ray Azzopardi
Jul 4th 2011, 20:12
kemm konna ahjar meta konna ghar .....................
Alex Bugeja
Jul 5th 2011, 09:35
Sur Azzopardi Alla ha 7 t'ijiem biex halaq id dinja.....ejja natuhom naqra cans lil dawn in nies, jien personalment nahseb sar zball li sar kollox f'gurnata wahda u mhux fuq zmien itwal, kieku hallew ir rotot kif kienu u dahlu sewwieqa u xarabanks godda kienet tkun aktar 'smooth' il bidla u b'hekk kemm in nies u kemm is sewwieqa jibdew jidraw is sistema u wara jibda isir it tibdil tar rotot ftit ftit. Jien nahseb li ghar milli konna mhux se inkunu qatt, il quddiem biss stajna immorru.
Mr Jo Meli
Jul 4th 2011, 18:50
From WHERE and WHEN can I purchase my 60 day or more "season" ticket please ?
If one buys such long term "season" tickets the rate will go down to the near present rates.
Thank you
Kevin Camilleri
Jul 5th 2011, 09:39
Any maltapost branch. You have to fill in a form.
Alexander Sciberras
Jul 4th 2011, 16:43
Can someone please enlighten me and explain to me why from Blata l Bajda to Valletta and back, now I have to pay more than TWICE the fare I used to pay. Previously it was Euro 0.35cents each way, thus being Euro 0.70 cents for both trips. Now I have to pay Euro 1.30 for a 2 hour ticket or Euro 1.50cents for a day ticket. This fare has to be paid even for a one way ride!!!!!!
Why should I fork in for other passengers travelling from further away? The bus stop we had at Blata l Bajda used to have on it : Fare Stage One. This does not apply any more. Such a shame!!!
Arriva please take note.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 5th 2011, 15:46
I can see your being unlucky,
but please also see the point of (most) other people
who had to catch four buses daily
costing them €2 previously
and now only €1.50
(or less of they get a week/month/3months ticket).
You pay for use of the system,
not for the length of your ride.
In any system wher fixed costs are high
you pay for use.
If you take a trip by air,
a trip to London is cheaper than one to Rome!
.
peter buckles
Jul 4th 2011, 15:13
i have just returned to england,after 3 great weeks holiday in malta.your new bus service can be only an
improvement to the last so called bus service.the bendy buses are a questonable one.they are useless in
London,and are being taken of our roads, thank god.hope al the rinkles are sorted out by the time i return
next yearto your wonderful country.
mr p.buckles.
Mr Mario P. Sciberras
Jul 5th 2011, 09:38
You are welcome, Mr Buckles. Next year we will be dealing with some other "cock up" and all this will be forgotten
Tony Caruana
Jul 4th 2011, 15:11
It seems that Mr Delia has given up. Or maybe he is helping driving the Buses.
Mr John Montague
Jul 4th 2011, 14:32
Bendy-buses were phased out in the UK for 2 main reasons - fare dodging was a secondary but the primary was directly related to negotiating bends, roundabouts, and the traffic-related implications thereof. I was quite amazed to learn of their implementation in Malta.
I have no comment at this time - the dust has yet to settle, though, based on the fact that the same drivers are operating new buses, I am not sure the current issues can be blamed on the drivers.....
David Zammit
Jul 4th 2011, 13:26
Arriva had enough time to prepare and avoid teething troubles. They should have taken advantage of 106 years of lessons learnt and anticipated and overcome such problems as from day 1.
Mark Vella
Jul 4th 2011, 13:09
Ara l-veru ahna poplu vera neggattiv ahna! jekk hu qadim neqirdu ax qadim, u mhux efficjenti..u jekk hu gdid qas intuhom naqa cans...bil propblemi kollha li inqalawlom! qatt mahna kuntenti! mhux ta bxejn nibqghu lura! Arriva ilhom jippreparaw hafna, u fl-ahhar minuta harbtu kollox l-cowboys tal-qedem!!
Edward Camilleri
Jul 4th 2011, 20:02
Well said mate that`s why we are called maltese gemgem because we are not happy with nothing we use to say desprecative words with the old buses now we want perfection from day one.
Emanuel Tabone
Jul 5th 2011, 08:26
Emanuel Tabone
ahjar taghlaq halqek kellu bzonn isir issa dan l-arrangament minn jaf kif tkun int meta jehdulek il hobza tal familja sur Vella.
Mr John Borg
Jul 4th 2011, 13:04
Horrible experience this morning!
The service is miserable.
Jason Falzon
Jul 4th 2011, 12:52
something that has irked me this morning is the several times I saw buses leaving the rear of the bus protruding excessively out when there is ample space in the bus stop. This is causing traffic jams.
Maria Camilleri Calleja
Jul 4th 2011, 12:34
Today I used the new P+R system for the first time under Arriva administration. I must say I was rather impressed with the spacious, comfortable and clean Valletta bus, although the driver had to request our [communters'] guidance as to where to disembark passengers. I was expecting a circular service around Valletta as stated in the guide book, but then decided not to stress too much the shy driver who was trying to give the best service he could in the circumstances.
As to the bullies who are sabotaging the service, I agree they should be sacked. The commuters deserve better, enough with this arrogance, enough with this waste of time and money. The majority want to be able to get from A to B without much argument.
My intention is to start using the bus service, eventually, but until things settle down, I will opt for me car, for the time being.
Mr Joe Frendo
Jul 4th 2011, 08:53
Dear Mr. Delia
Should the Arriva Marhsals at the inter changes help out in the situation rather to be the first to complain? I could not believe it when I heard one of the Arriva person 'who is from the old system' placed at the Technopark interchange this morning complaining that with the system 'Morna ghal ghar b'Arriva!! ... We are going to the worst with the Arriva!' thus citing more customers to be frustrated. e continued to stated, that with the old system, a bus used to pass every 5 minutes from here! ... now it take ages with Arriva!.
Have these people be given the necessary training on how to easy frustration with your customers during the first days of the service since everyone knows that a new system will have hiccups or it was just a marketing issue?
Anthony A. Mifsud
Jul 4th 2011, 06:57
A good concept, but lack of coordination, sent all routes hay wire. The new buses looks good, but can you imagine if air malta had this kind of start? all the customrs said give them a chance.That is a very negative start, and i hope it will wash off.
They need muscule as dispachers.
Ninu
Mr M Farrugia
Jul 4th 2011, 00:07
you cannot judge a service after a few hours. Let us discuss this issue within a week or so when the company have a full compliment of drivers, and the teething trouble are over
anne marie bongailas
Jul 3rd 2011, 22:56
i have used the new bus service and unfortunately it was a huge disaster. the driver was not experienced and at one point after abrubtly breaking the bus he made all the people standing fall over eacother. he was all the time breaking for no reason at all and from m scala to valletta it took us 1 hr after 1.5 hrs waiting in the blazing sun. then the comedy continued from valletta to go back to m scala. on the way back driver was very nice and a much better driver then the other one but he did not know the route and kept asking people from where he has to pass. why did the service start today if they were not ready?
John Neville Ebejer
Jul 3rd 2011, 20:57
Arriva should have started to commuters used to the routes and service much earlier than total switch over. During the drivers training in free service could have been offered on some of the routs- to make shure one had the drivers and buses for the right frequency etc.
After some days other localities would get the run in and eventually cover all before the official launch. Not all commuters have addess to internet, read or find it easy to follow maps. Getting on the bus and being explained were and how and do it oneself is the way we will get used to it. Unfortunately it will cost Arriva reputation-hopefully not all or recoverable. Missed opportunity I would say.
Is it true that information on speakers in buses is only in English? that would be an insult to many of us maltese, actually.
Ms Jessica Spiteri
Jul 3rd 2011, 20:44
I had 2 arriva experiences today...and both left me longing for the old ricckety buses! This morning I caught a bus to Rabat from Sliema, not only did it take almost 45 minutes to get to Mosta but to my surprise, the smell of burning rubber filled my nostrils as the bus came to a halt on the bypass, with engines smoking and all!! We were stranded.
My second one was by far worse...whereas the previous 645 direct from Mellieha to Sliema (or vice versa) would take around half an hour to make its journey (on a good day) it took me 2 hours to travel from mellieha to sliema!! simply because the route is faaaarrrrr toooooo long!!!! we re not interested in seeing the sites! we just want to get to work! not to mention the fact that there were literally hundreds of stranded people on bus stops all over the island and had to tackle tourists to get home!!
above all....a disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeffrey Bonanno
Jul 4th 2011, 15:26
Mellieha to Sliema : old service = 30 mins. new service = 1hr. 30 mins. to 2 hrs.
Mellieha to Valletta : old service = 30-60 mins. new serive = 1hr. 30 mins. to 2hr.
What an improvement!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 3rd 2011, 19:00
I used the public transport today.
The bus was about 20 minutes late. Not tragic, but late.
The bus ride was excellent and we had a very courteous driver.
There was obviously a sinister plan by the old bus drivers
to disrupt the service on the first day. Unfortunately, their plan worked.
Arriva (and many Maltese) underestimated the old bus drivers.
Now it's too late crying over spilt milk.
Looking at the positive:
In a matter of days Arriva can have new drivers trained
and can get rid of ALL old bus drivers.
New service. New drivers.
That's what we commuters expect.
.
Dominic Watson
Jul 4th 2011, 01:44
Actually, despite spending alot of time waiting and alot of money on taxis. I do have to say that the bus journey was nice, the drivers were extremely polite. I was wondering where all the drama had disappeared... drivers hitting foreigners and shouting at people. I hope they're all fired and I hope they're condemned for leaving hundreds of people stranded.
Victor Buhagiar
Jul 3rd 2011, 17:24
After the initial hiccups which, I blame both the 30 or so drivers who did not show up and to ARRIVA because it should have had plan B, I believe the overall service will be good what I can envisage to be wrong is the design of the new network is lack of frequency on certain routes 30 minutes during working days is far to long especially in today's world. If frequency is not going to improve I will stick to my car because no one is expect to either leave for work 2 hours ahead of time to arrive at least 45 minutes ahead of work start neither should I leave 1 hour before time and arrive late. This is what ARRIVA's trip planner calculates for a person living in Siggiewi and works in B'Kara Swatar area.
Edward Camilleri
Jul 3rd 2011, 16:55
Well done to all those that took part in the changing of the bus system in Malta after all those years complaining about the unprofessional service ,now we have something close to good,one have to keep in mind that for us everything is new. The system was built from scratch and some problems may arise so is inevitable that in the first few days one faces some difficulties.With the help of everyone the system will be accepted and one day we will say why we took all those years to change something that in a modern country like Malta we took all that time to chance.Well done to all
Mr Matthew Galea
Jul 3rd 2011, 16:49
I would like an answer from either Mr Emanuel Delia or a spokesman from Arriva about why I did 3 hrs on a stage in Kirkop and no busses were in sight. Both to Valletta and to MIA.
At the end of the day, I am DISGUSTED by Arriva's service. Not even with the old busses did I ever exceed 1.5hr on a bus stop (including the last few days) let alone 3hrs from a company that GUARANTEED that these things won't happen.
David Bonnici
Jul 3rd 2011, 18:13
Kif dejjem tgergru. Mhux qed nghidlek li seww hekk pero, Ghatu daqxejn cans! Maqdar kemm trid jekk s servizz jibqa hekk wara 3 months ez!
Mr Matthew Galea
Jul 4th 2011, 09:58
u int tahseb li ser nghamel sajf shieh, manfx jek khux ser nbiqa fuq l-istage hux?
tider li ghandek karozza!!
Jonathan Barbara
Jul 3rd 2011, 16:16
It's good to see Bus 21 back in Marsascala - except for the route signage on the side windows which indicated that it should be in Mosta or Golden Bay! Another bus that came this way was 31...
Presumably this was due to driver shortage on the first day - but it sure raised eyebrows and added to the confusion :)
Lets hope the teething problems are surpassed soon and service, as expected from both supplier and customer, comes up to standard.
Peter Bowring
Jul 3rd 2011, 14:34
Dear Mr Delia.
Thank you for your earlier reply. Regarding travelling from the North of the island to Valletta. Arriva seems to have forgotten the local people on this route and are just pleasing the tourist because they pay more. We need to get to work in the shortest possible time not have a scenic tour of the island stopping at each and every hotel. In your reply to me you agreed on the infrequency of buses per hour. You said the buses will only take a few minutes longer to reach Valletta (25 minutes in fact). It takes one hour and 10 minutes to get to Rome but one hour and 20 minutes to get from Mellieha to Valletta. I am well aware that on average we have approximately one million tourist per year. Please consider the people who live and work here not just the tourist. There seems to be no provision for people who need to get to St Lukes for Physiotherapy treatment (the old bus number 75 route) from the North of the island. Please listen to the locals and make them your priority.
Mark Heinrichs
Jul 3rd 2011, 18:00
Don't Maltese work and live in the tourist areas as well?
Having an "express route" and a "standard route" would solve the situation.
Mr Alexander Genuis
Jul 3rd 2011, 14:28
Hi,
My name is Alexander Genuis,I browsed into Arriva website and I saw that Nr.82,From Birzebbugia to Valletta takes up around 45 min,I start my working day at 6.00am,will all buses go through villages and cities all day long??Is Birzebbugia route a standard one or changes during the day?Thankyou.
Mark Heinrichs
Jul 3rd 2011, 14:16
I am extremely disappointed with the fare system!
I have dual citizenship (Maltese/German) and lived in both countries for some time. I always
encourage friends/relatives to visit Malta and use the bus system.
If Germany were to introduce such discriminating fares, the whole world would
start passing comments relating them to German history. Obviously Maltese residents will
not complain themselves - because Arriva threatens to charge Maltese the higher fares as well
if they cannot enforce this strategy. Very cunning, I must admit - but is this really the image Malta
wants to present to the rest of the world? Isn't this one of the many strategies certain discriminating dictators used to gain support from their citizens half a century ago?
How does Arriva Malta expect me to explain this mentality to friends interested in visiting? I really
encourage Maltese authorities and Arriva Malta to reconsider this decision.
Apart from this I think the approach to modernize the public transportation system is great, although
I will miss the old buses.
Mr Joshua Attard
Jul 3rd 2011, 21:53
I have not used the transport system in Germany even though I have visited, but When I went to the U.k and france .. I was always charged more than the people living there, because I had no student cards, pension cards etc... in many countries it is adopted, when the system is partially paid by the govt.
Mr Joe Vella
Jul 3rd 2011, 11:38
It has been for 3 hours now that the website http://www.arriva.com.mt is not responding.
Seems like the hosting provider does not have the right infrastructure to handle the amount of requests that the site needs to function.
How come Arriva did this mistake when contracting him?
Mr Mike Farrugia
Jul 3rd 2011, 10:57
I fail to understand why ticket machines were not installed in the middle of the buses like they have abroad. It eliminates the queue from the front of the bus and makes alighting of commuters more efficient.
Mr M. Vella
Jul 3rd 2011, 10:37
For all it's faults, which include but are not limited to ...
1. a majority of them not being kept well, or cleaned.
2. a unfriendly to rude service most of the time ... for example, it's not the first time i've seen a bus driver not stop but merely slow down for a person to climb aboard, be them elderly or otherwise. And for the prior would need the rest of his passengers to call him to a stop
... for all that I will miss our old buses, the type of those in the photo above. They had a very distinct look, a character of their own. Lets hope they can be put to use in the tourist sector somehow
George ...
Jul 2nd 2011, 20:02
This happened in England too. I remember the old red doubly deckers in London been scrape and most of them now they are new. In the near future London soon has the new red buses again. It would be nice if in Malta to keep the ones in good condition for our Maltese heritage. Good luck ARRIVA and I hope all the drivers and costumers will work all together. When we all go on board the bus and reach the destination ALL we must say THANK YOU before we leave the bus.
Tony Caruana
Jul 2nd 2011, 17:17
Why were the drivers promised an 8 hour shift and now they want them to work 15 hours ?
Sam Decesare
Jul 2nd 2011, 13:51
Having bilingual signs and information material was a very good idea. Keep it up and good luck for the new service.
Sandra Smith
Jul 2nd 2011, 13:37
I would like to suggest an old bus memorial in Valletta's terminus.
S. Camilleri
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:58
Comments on the bus service per se will have to wait. It has not yet started! However Government is bending over double, mortgaging rights of pedestrians and motorists in the process ... letting TM run amok, creating road hazards, removing proper existing parking facilities, creating monstrous roundabouts and generally making any road user's life a misery; and in the name of progress.
Many people will not forget this ... irrespective of whether the service to be provided is up to scratch or not.
Mr ALBERT LEONE GANADO
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:21
Whilst wishing the best of success to the new transport system I am afraid the bus stop naming system adopted makes no sense. I have been the world over and almost in all places the stop refers to the closest street, a major landmark or better still the names of the closest two interesecting roads even if in shortened form. This has the major advantage that both locals and tourists using a GPS can easily locate a stop. It also serves as a quick reference for those who want a specific landmark or location of commercial outlet to know the closest stop . It also makes it much easier to include bus stops in a GIS computerised system. A good naming convention is essential for any kind of system especially a transport one . Indeed I am surprised that there are not as yet any European standards for naming of bus stops.
George ...
Jul 2nd 2011, 20:05
Most of the names of the roads and vilages on the bus stops are not correct. Why? I am sure a lot of people and tourist get confuse. This must be replacing as quickly as possible it a shame!!
Jesmond Mugliett
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:31
Nixtieq nghid prosit lis-Sur Emanuel Delia, mil-Ministeru tat-Transport, tal-mod li bih qad iwiegeb il-mistoqsijiet kollha li saru f'dan il-blog, biex b'hekk anki provda aktar informazzjoni siewja lill-pubbliku. Vera prosit, kif ukoll prosit tal-hidma tieghek f'din ir-riforma u nawguralkom kull success.
George ...
Jul 2nd 2011, 20:09
Prosit Sur Emanuel Delia ghax xoghol siwi li qijat tamel fit transport publiku. Pagna gdida ghal Malta u Ghawdejx li ilna hafna nistennew. Proset ukoll minn hadem mieghik ukoll PROSET.
Mark Galea
Jul 3rd 2011, 16:40
Veru prosit ... irrisponda kwazi lil kulhadd barra lili. Wasal sal-kumment ta' qabli u waqaf. Imbaghad kompla hafna wara.
Mark Galea.
Tista twegibni sur Delia?
S. Mula
Jul 2nd 2011, 10:27
I don't liike the fact that I have to switv buses to go to university - with this system I will be paying more while having to catch the bus much earlier than i did before!!! = more money and more waste of time!
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:41
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. On the matter of costs, if you were using the old bus system to go to University by bus, you will find that the new system will save you money. Students are entitled to a student ticket (21 euro for 30 days or 60 euro for 90 days) which gives them unlimited access to public transport (except night services) whether to go to University and back or any other travel that you need to do. Even if you may need to change buses on your way to University, your costs don't go up as once purchased a ticket remains valid for its validity period.
Mr Stephen Farrugia
Jul 3rd 2011, 11:27
Mr Delia, Seriously, Do you know what you're saying?? I've seen your comments...they're all about money and brand new shiny buses... what about TIME?? what about problems and implications?? DO you know how long it takes for a bus to disembark with people? Especially people who are sick?? Who will pay us for that time that we spend? Are you gonna change the clock to be 25 hours per day? Unbelievable. Direct Buses to university and hospital should remain as PROMISED. Its not a problem of cost, Arriva took the tender to work in Malta, and they should accommodate OUR needs... not us accommodate THEIRS.
JOY BEZZINA
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:15
I live in Sydney, Australia and am married to a Maltese. We have been to Malta 4 times in recent years and every time one of the highlights of our trip are the wonderful old buses, terrifying trips, flying down hills and around corners along narrow streets with a driver on his mobile phone taking calls all the way. The rattle and bumps adding to the 'flavour' of the trip. Thank goodness I look lots of photos while we were there, it will be sad to see modern buses, just like the rest of the world. The charm of Malta is the old world surroundings and the wonderful warm people. I guess this is progress, but it will be sad to see them go. I just can't imagine how they are going to negotiate the narrow roads around St. Paul's Bay and other suburbs. Please keep some for us tourists!
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:43
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. On how buses can negotiate their way through narrow streets, the new fleet (unlike the old one) has buses of different sizes, from the largest sized 18.5 metres that stick to larger roads, to the smallest sized 7m that are short enough to drive inside and around Valletta.
hugh jars
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:30
seems like everyone who doesn't live here wants the old crocks saved. we use them everyday, they are nothing but boneshaking, polluting heaps. Roll on Sunday, 21st century arrives in Malta!!!!!
Klaus Pedersen
Jul 2nd 2011, 08:51
Regrettably, the new service has been done in such a way, that I shall be unable to use it for transport to Valletta.
I am very happy that we will have a new and improved service and applaud this initiative.
BUT
I am unhappy that the new route will take even longer to reach Valletta from Marsaxlokk than the old one. What happened to the direct express connections we were promised? I would happily bring myself to for example Bir Id-Deb, if there was a direct line to Valletta that would arrive in reasonable time. As it is, the service is useless to me.
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:47
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. There is indeed a direct bus between Marsaxlokk and Valletta in the new network. Route 81 is scheduled to run every 15 minutes. In addition to that Marsaxlokk will be served by route 119 which is a direct connection to Birżebbuġa and Marsaskala.
Mr Charles Falzon
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:59
Same here....the new buses are not going to pass any longer from where I live. To catch the bus I have to walk 20 minutes. Nilhaq nasal il belt!!!! Very surprised with the new routes :-))))
Charles Sammut
Jul 2nd 2011, 08:42
I am quite positive that Arriva will be a vast improvement on the present "service"!
But I would suggest that whoever decided the names of the villages on the signs,goes back to his/her/their drawing boards and change most of them.....e.g. il-Mosta, Ballut, etc.....
Where can one have a look at the new tariffs and are tourists including EU visitors going to be paying more than Maltese citizens?
On yesterday's Times, it was reported that drivers are going to get paid Euro 35 per day. Is this true or false?
...and the beat goes on.....and the beat goes on......
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:47
Thank you for your interest in the new transport services. The use of articles in Maltese town names (Tas-Sliema, Il-Ħamrun, Il-Mosta, L-Imsida, etc.) is a result of recent change in legislation on the proper naming of towns. This has been recommended by the National Council on the Maltese Language. The tarriffs are available on www.arriva.com.mt or on www.mitc.gov.mt and indeed residents of Malta, including non-Maltese citizens, benefit from resident discounts.
On the matter of salaries paid to drivers, this is a contractual matter between Arriva and its employees (as long as it complies with legislation of course) and we have no reason to believe it does not.
Clare Cassingena
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:56
@Sammut. I don't agree. Every other country use its village names in full and in its own language.
Prosit Mr Delia and Arriva.
Kenneth Harmsworth
Jul 2nd 2011, 13:23
@Emanuel Delia. Thank you for your patience and for answering all the queries (here and on various radio programmes). Well done for this positive decision. I also suggest to use the proper names for the interchanges: Ta' Qali (instead of Qali), Ħal Warda (not Warda) & Tal- Qroqq (not Qroqq). Keep up the good work. Your ministry is working a lot to modernise Malta.
The tariffs are on Arriva's website: www.arriva.com.mt (Tickets & Fares).
Ronald Bowm\n
Jul 2nd 2011, 03:04
@Gianfrancesco Buttigieg. I did not imply that the place names should not include the article/prefix. I simply said that the list of localities is printed haphazzardly. It should have been printed in alphabetical order taking the first letters of the article/prefix when these exist. Incidentally, for the sake of consistency, "Cirkewwa" shoud read "ic-Cirkewwa".
@Emanuel Delia. You proved my point that it is illogical to call "Salina" as being "Qawra". But you are mistaken. I did criticize how they have been named. It is a fact that "Ghallis Bus Stop" is situated over 3 km away from this historical tower. If tourists residing at the Salina Bay Hotel which is near Ghallis Tower were to stop at that Bus stop they would be far from their intended destination. "Ghallis" should be given to the bus stop at Salina Bay nearest the Tower. and the one at Bahar ic-Caghaq Hill should be renamed: say, "Porziuncola". The Maghtab bus stop should be renamed "Qalet Marku" or "Marku". I hope the Sliema Bus Stops will be renamed according to their proper locations. I don't see why the public needed to be consulted to avoid the above-mentioned errors. Apart from the fact that these sites are common knowledge, a Google search would have given the planners the most siutable names. You did not comment on the haphazard Localities list of the Mater Dei Bus Routes. Is the Website being adjusted to include ALL the bus stops of each locality?
@ Ray Gatt. Please see my suggestions to Mr Emanuel Delia. These are only a few examples. Re the Sliema Bus stops, the one opposite Old College Street, could be renamed "Kullegg" or "Kunvent" (as it is almost opposite to the Carmelite Priory) or "Gnien" as it is near the entrance of "Gnien Indipendenza"; the Exiles Bus stop must be moved to the bus stop opposite Isuoard Street, the Bus stop near the Tower which is called "Dud" must be renamed "Torri" (this is placed at Ghar id-Dud near il-Fortizza.); the bus stop at Fond Ghadir must be renamed "Ghadir" (instead of Chalet) and the one at Ghar id-Dud should be renamed either "Chalet" or "Ghar id-Dud". The word Dud is ridiculous and meaningless. One only requires some common sense to find siutable names.
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:50
It should be pointed out that one feature of the new bus stop names is that except where they come in pairs just across from each other, a name given to a stop is not repeated anywhere else on the island. If it were so there would be a bus stop 'Valletta' in every street named 'Valletta Road' on the island, and there are many. Indeed there are bus stops in Malta called "Kulleġġ", "Kunvent" and "Indipendenza" and for the avoidance of confusion that name is unique to those bus stops and not repeated elsewhere.
Mark Mangion
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:35
@Emanuel Delia. I understand your point but the thing is that a name like "Sant'Antnin" should never be used as "Antnin"! Having a bus stop named "Sant'Antnin" or "S. Antnin" is still short and easier to remember. Even "Għar Dalam" instead of "Dalam"! Everyone knows (and says) "Għar Dalam".
Such thing happens in bigger countries and we are finding it difficult for Malta! It's an excuse.
Ronald Bowm\n
Jul 3rd 2011, 04:03
@Mr Delia. Alternative names could be one of: "Karmelitani" or the name of a nearby side street "Frangisk" or "Isuoard", or even "Girgor", it being the nearest bus stop to St. Gregory's Parish Church. If even these names have already been allocated to other bus stops, then you can at least resort to having "Exiles 1" and "Exiles 2", the same system used for the Salina Bay and Qroqq Bus stops.
Claire Busuttil
Jul 1st 2011, 23:33
I think that arriva should have selected better it`s employees, within the old drivers!!
hugh jars
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:20
arrogant, untidy, rude and drive dangerous!!!! sensible to keep them. you are obviously related to one of these 'drivers'. Get real!!
Glenn Owen Spiteri
Jul 1st 2011, 22:37
"NEW BUS SERVICE", when MANY of the buses are NOT NEW AT ALL!?? One of the Bendi-Bus (long bus) Registration number: BX55FVB has got a whopping 800,000km on its speedometer and also 6 years of working-time in England. The same applies to a HYBRID bus with Registration number: YJ09MLY. Therefore this implies that our minister wants to get rid of the present minibuses and taxis with the excuse that they pollute, and is subsidising second-hand polluting buses from England.
Clearly many hidden issues are being brought up showing that ARRIVA BUSES would definitely not be a new heaven on earth as proposed.
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:52
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. All buses in the new fleet are Euro V buses, which is a standard none of the buses in the old fleet got anywhere near. Two-thirds of the fleet is factory brand new and the rest has been or is being refurbished and converted to Euro V. From an every age of 35 years -- probably the oldest in Europe; the new fleet will have an average age of just over a year -- probably the youngest in the world.
Joe Fenech
Jul 2nd 2011, 10:07
Bendy Buses were taken off the London roads exported to Malta.
The government knew this would happen. Bendy Buses were deemed 'too cumbersome' for London, and the Maltese took them on! Pajjiz ta' l-Ighna, Moghoz ta' Bendu...!
http://news.coachbroker.co.uk/londons-bendy-buses-heading-to-malta-181000/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/leicestershire/8627135.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/malta/8606494/End-of-the-road-no-more-fares-for-Maltas-vintage-buses.html
Anthony Caruana
Jul 1st 2011, 18:11
why has the bus got english plate on it ??????
Chris Spiteri
Jul 1st 2011, 23:11
Well said Mr. Caruana!! I have seen this bus driving around during the practise sessions for the new drivers. Well, it seems that the Maltese rules are not the same for everyone, cause when I got over my vehicle from the UK less than 2 years ago, I was clearly instructed that I cannot drive with such UK number plate... Arriva has tailor made rules or what??!!
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:54
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. As recently announced around 17 Euro V vehicles have been brought over the compliment the fleet to ensure timely delivery of service in spite of the Bisazza Street change that has lengthened some routes beyond the original planned schedules. These buses will no longer serve in Malta when the network and schedules are permanently adjusted. These buses are fully compliant with contract requirements except that they are not airconditioned and they do not carry signage and instructions in the Maltese language.
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:54
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. As recently announced around 17 Euro V vehicles have been brought over the compliment the fleet to ensure timely delivery of service in spite of the Bisazza Street change that has lengthened some routes beyond the original planned schedules. These buses will no longer serve in Malta when the network and schedules are permanently adjusted. These buses are fully compliant with contract requirements except that they are not airconditioned and they do not carry signage and instructions in the Maltese language.
hugh jars
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:34
cos it was used in england oddly enough!
hugh jars
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:35
why has the yellow heap got no number?????
Sandra Smith
Jul 2nd 2011, 13:39
Well done Mr Delia's ministry for using bilingual signs and instructions.
Arriva is surely a step in the right direction for our country.
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 1st 2011, 17:42
I would like an explanation please, as to why Maltese residents who opt to buy the 7 day and 30 day tickets, cannot use these tickets when staying in Gozo, say for a weekend. The Maltese Islands are 1 country. Why discriminate just because of a narrow stretch of sea!
Emanuel Delia
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:59
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Though no doubt Gozo is part of Malta, it is also an island with very specific disadvantages. In terms of public transport, its major disadvantages are that it is thinly populated for its size (it has the population of Birkirkara but is much larger) and it absorbs very seasonal demands by visitors at very specific times of year. For these reasons Government has decided to subsidise public transport in Gozo to the tune of 1.5 million euros a year which is the shortfall between what revenues it reasonable to expect the fare box in Gozo to attract and what it costs to keep a regular, year-round, island-wide service. If visitors to Gozo (including Maltese holiday-makers) make no contribution for their use of that service, the revenue gap would be wider and the subsidy needed would be higher. It was decided that the costs involved for -- to use your example -- a weekend (3 euro per person for unlimited travel within Gozo) is a proportionate and measured balance between subsidies and fares.
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 2nd 2011, 17:09
Thank you Mr.Delia, for taking the time to respond.
Although it was not what I would have liked to hear, I understand your reasoning.
So, next time in Gozo, maybe we would skip that extra ice-cream to make up for the fare! :-)
S. Mizzi
Jul 1st 2011, 15:20
yellow bus cannot stop the people in Marsa number 3 ; 1:30pm today others without tickets . ISSA GVERN TAKE ACTION AND STOP PAYMENT....
Ronald Formosa
Jul 1st 2011, 14:16
I would like to pass two suggestions:
1. the departure time from popular areas such as Bugibba and Sliema, would be extended to midnight during the summer months, thus taking into consideration our context and lifestyle during this period.
2. a more detailed map of the routes, so that one can know exactly the roads from which a particular bus will pass from. This is because the current network map or the route plan are not helpful.
Thanks
Joe Fenech
Jul 2nd 2011, 09:58
I agree: no way should the government has accepted this. A name is a name and can't be tampered with. In London if it's Golders Green they don't write Green; if it's Tower Hamlets they don't write Hamlets. Il-Gahan Malta, miskin, puts up with everything!
Mr Tonio Micallef
Jul 1st 2011, 12:42
Deheb - Why not Bir id-Deheb as it known
Mamo - Why not Torri Mamo as it is known
Girgor - Why not San Girgor as it is known
Dud - Why not Ghar id-Dud as it is known
Tmiem - Why not Hal-Tmiem as it is known
Isqof - Why not Isqof Galea as it is known
Diacono - Why not Carlo Diacono as it is known
and many many more
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 1st 2011, 16:09
Simply because the name of a bus-stop is an indicator where to stop, not a place name.
Until now, we've had to describe where somebody had to go or stop either by asking the driver or noting some landmark.
Now we've progressed to a bus-stop name which is just one word for simplicity and efficiency.
Of course, being Maltese, rather than noting what a great improvement we have with a bus-stop name and info at the bus-stop about the exact times when buses arrive at that bus-stop, we engage in our undisputed national pastime - grumbling.
Mr Anthony Borg
Jul 1st 2011, 17:37
Mr. Micallef, be realistic. The bus-stops are NOT Billboards!
As Ms. Camenzuli has correctly stated, the short-form names are indicators not a street name.
Mr Peter Korsten
Jul 2nd 2011, 12:42
Yeah, now go and tell the French that Métro station names like 'Concorde' and 'Châtelet' are not at all clear.
Mr John Borg
Jul 1st 2011, 12:33
I think a nice comprimise of a better service but preserved identity would have been to modernise the fleet (done already) but then permit colour and personalisation to the busses.
I also suggest we retain the oldest busses (refit them with new engines of course) and use them for sightseeing tours (rather than London busses).
I agree with Gerald Grech below, we are losing our identity and becoming to boring and standard like other EU countries.
Progress with regressing!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 1st 2011, 16:13
The usual fetish for the past under the guise of 'identity'.
Why don't we wear faldettas?
Why don't we have karozzini for public transport?
That would give us great 'identity'.
Why should Arriva 'personalize' the buses?
What we really need is not colours and 'identity' but efficient and predictable transport.
.
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 1st 2011, 17:17
@MaryJo Camenzuli
Why do we still have the karrozzin? Because we need them for transport?
No, because it is part of our history, and we did well to preserve them.
Why should we keep some of the old busses running on our street? Because we need them for transport?
No, because they are part of our history, and we should preserve them.
Tourists love the Maltese buses.
Our identity is the reason why tourists visit Malta, and we are losing it.
Do you have any idea what culture is?
Mr Joe Borg
Jul 1st 2011, 17:20
I'm with you John. SAVE THE MALTESE BUSES.
hugh jars
Jul 1st 2011, 21:08
No you are now in the 21st century. Why keep old bangers on the road polluting everywhere. Roll on Sunday if the whingers turn up!!!!! PS, PROBLEM WITH LONDON BUSES???
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 1st 2011, 11:45
Dear Mr. Delia,
Thank you for taking time to answer our queries. My question is simple but somewhat loaded.
Why are so many streets closed and so many stops unserviced on the day Arriva start to operate? Why all the diversions? What's going on?
http://www.arriva.com.mt/route-diversions?l=1
Thanks again
Mario Desira
Jul 1st 2011, 11:32
While without doubt the service will be improving substantially there are a few points that may have not been studied thoroughly. Let me take Qrendi route as an example.
Departure during weekday mornings peak time is every 15 mins. Once Arriva starts operating, the new schedule is every 30 mins. This is a step backwards as the peak hours of passenger use do not seem to have been taken in consideration.
Likewise on Sundays up to today departure is every 30 mins. Now it will be every hour. How can this be considered an improvement?
Also regarding the present aluminium/glass bus stops – they are next to useless when it comes to doing what they are supposed to do – provide shelter. Try this just one example. Wait for 30 mins on the bus stop right in front of Air Malta Head Office Luqa, just before the roundabout on the way to the airport. If one is there between 3 to 7 pm one is practically roasted alive with the full sun blazing right in front. Shelters should be just that…...shelters from the elements – and not just glorified advertising billboards.
By the way, this morning I spent 65 mins – over one hour waiting on the bus stop to go to Valletta (Bus 35), and arrived very late at work Ofcourse nobody shoulders responsibility or even informs that until Sunday buses are practically running as an emergency service……..
Otherwise buses not stopping at 8 or 9pm is always a welcome improvement. Such timetables presently in use today belong to Victorian times
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 1st 2011, 10:31
I've just seen several bus stages with notices about all the buses which stop at each particular stage and the exact times they leave that stage.
Excellent.
Finally, a company that treats us commuters as human beings.
There will definitely be teething troubles in the first few weeks and we must get used to interchanging buses all over the island not just in Valletta or thereabouts, but I'm certain it's going to be a much much better service.
.
Gerald Grech
Jul 1st 2011, 10:19
Looking forward to smoke-free runs on the Sliema seafront, but at the same time nostalgic - slowly Malta is becoming another standardised, boring EU country. We r seeing it happen with buildings, cuisine..whats next? And, ARRIVA please change those bus colours, don't remind us these buses are made in China!!!!What about the idea of having different colours for different routes like the old days?
Ray Gatt
Jul 1st 2011, 12:18
Those are the Arriva colours. Why should they remind you of China.
Mark Galea
Jul 1st 2011, 09:19
@Emmanuel Delia
Why has the 41/11 trips been forced to pass through Qawra. Do you not realise that we now have increased the trip by 10-20 minutes? For what? To please a few hotel owners? Do not tell me to take the Airport Express, since if you calculate well, when I cross to Malta with the 6:45 ferry, I have to wait up to 7:35 to use that service.
Dear Emmanuel, you are forcing us Gozitans to organise more and more minibus trips to/from Cirkewwa ... (especially after next September) it is a matter of time that we start picking up Mellieha people to boost the numbers to make the service cheaper. If a minibus is not always full, a couple of extras always help.
Also, in Gozo, why are not trips to/from Imgarr scheduled with the ferry? Who would board a bus that arrives at Imgarr 5 minutes after the ferry leaves? Does this mean that we should take care of our Gozitan brothers and sisters by taking them down to Imgarr? Maybe for a small "donation"?
Mr Delia, once alternative services start, it would be very difficult to "uproot" them in the future. The complete elimination (which has already been planned) of most parking areas in Imgarr will probably the the crux of the situation - either many will yield or they will rally together with a group solution.
Hope you reply.
Mark Galea
Jul 1st 2011, 14:20
I am really unlucky - up to the time I am writing this comment - 14:20, the last message replied by mr Delia was the one before mine ...
Peter Bowring
Jul 1st 2011, 16:29
A reply from a Xemxija bus user who will try to get to Valletta on time for work. I have written a new advertising campaign for Arriva using prefixes turning positives into negatives. We promise to provide you with an unreliable, inefficient, infrequent bus service with inappropriate bus times and journeys taking 50% longer than they used to. Please do not sell your car you will need it. Perhaps Mr Delia would like to reply to my observations.
Ronald Bowm\n
Jul 1st 2011, 00:20
Bus Stop names are very erratic and confusing especially for tourists and commuters who are strangers to particular areas especially if they are to follow the bus routes as printed on the buses or trying to plan their journeys by consulting the Website. Comuters would be alightin from the buses kilometres away from their intended destination. When consulting the Website for the list of bus stops in particular localities such as San Gwann and Sliema, the stops do not fit into the Window. Apart from the "Commedy of Errors" along the Sliema Promenade, some bus stops along the Coast Road are very misleading too. "Ghallis" is placed on Bahar ic-Caghaq Hill which incidentally is identified as "Madliena". (Madliena Village is quite some distance away.) Ghallis Tower (the nearest landmark to the Coastline Hotel) is over 3 Km away at the Point of Salina Bay. The Stop at "Qalet Marku" is called "Maghtab" which again is far away from the hamlet. The nearest bus stop to this village is that called "Widna" on the Naxxar-Salina Road. The two bus stops at Salina Bay (near the Coastline Hotel) are indicated as being within the limits of Qawra. (Qawra is on the other side of the Bay - Imagine calling Sliema "Valletta" because the two localities are only seperated by Marsamxetto Harbour). The leaflets received at the homes are very user UNFRIENDLY. Once the authorities decided on using the Maltese place names including the articles, the localities of bus routes to Mater Dei could have been placed in alphabetical order. These and other errors are unacceptable. They only reflect incompetance, lack of consultation (example with local councils) and lack of effective planning.
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jul 1st 2011, 09:10
Ronald - I might have misunderstood part of your comment but those are the official place names in Maltese. It isn't Marsa but Il-Marsa. We have gotten so used to dropping off part of the name (the "Il-" and the "Hal") that it looks odd, but that is very much the proper way of writing them.
See - Decizjonijiet 1, 2.1 (L-Akkademja tal-Malti)
http://www.akkademjatalmalti.com/filebank/documents/Decizjonijiet%201.pdf
Elaine Manduca
Jul 1st 2011, 09:36
That leaflet with bus routes for Mater Dei has other spelling mistakes. It seems that Arriva did not proofread it before distributing it to all households in Malta.
Emanuel Delia
Jul 1st 2011, 09:56
Thank you for your interest in the new transport system. I have elsewhere in this forum given reasons for the names of the bus stops and why they have been made the way they have. Clearly it would be illogical to name a bus stop in Sliema as 'Valletta' and presumably you have used this example merely to explain how bus stops should not be named rather than to point out how they have been. My reactions here are limited to the facts so I do not hope to argue well enough to persuade you to like them. Limitedly on the fact of whether there had been "consultation (example with local councils)", there indeed had been. Local Councils were given maps of the routes complete with stop names in April 2009 and some have commented in the subsequent months asking for changes that in their great majority where taken up. The public was also consulted. In October 2009 the routes were announced to the press and uploaded with maps and bus stops names on the Ministry website. Members of the public commented and made suggestions and many of these were taken up before the maps and routes were included in the tender and eventually the contract that is presently being implemented.
Ray Gatt
Jul 1st 2011, 12:22
Rather then critisize, would it not be better if you give some ideas as to what the names should be.
Alfred Falzon
Jun 30th 2011, 22:48
Ring out the old! Ring in the new!
The Old Bus Kingdom of Malta is fast drawing to a close but, all in all, there must be in the air a feeling of nostalgia for days gone by when many Maltese and foreigners alike had something to say about our unique bus service, warts and all!
Small wonder then that many a photographer - professional and amateur - are rushing to have a last snapshot of our fast disappearing dinosaurs before their extinction date on 2nd July, 2011 at midnight!
Bone-shakers or bone-breakers, - call them what you like - they will nonetheless remain in the limelight for quite some time, for lately they seem to have struck a chord with aficionados of the local transport scene, philatelists included!
"ARRIVA" will now bear witness to their definite DEPARTURE heralding a new era in our transport system, hopefully for the better!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 1st 2011, 10:36
The old buses are very very nice... as long as we don't board them any longer.
Their place is in a museum, not carrying people around.
And there are those coaches that were imported in the early 80s with huge glass windows but not enough ventilation in summer, making us travel in a sauna.
Good riddance to old rubbish.
Finally, after more than 60 years, there is someone in authority who believes we - commuters - should be served with dignity and respect.
.
Alfred Falzon
Jul 1st 2011, 14:06
@Mary Jo Camenzuli
I share most of your comments and at one point in time I even developed a deep dislike for them, but they belong whether we like it or not to Malta's transport history.
Turning over a new leaf is everybody's wish but let's hope that, once the teething problems are over (and there may be a few in the offing), the Maltese, as you say, will be "served with dignity and respect"!
Mr Nathan zammit
Jun 30th 2011, 22:08
I hear that you will get a fine if you dont give way to buses.. so If i am going round a roundabout I have to stop in the middle of the roundabout for the buses to enter the roundabout??
also will i get fined if i overtake a bus??
Emanuel Delia
Jul 1st 2011, 06:54
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. You need not, positively should not, give way to a bus in the middle of a roundabout. A number of busy interchanges have road markings indicating a priority exit for buses. This means that when a bus is indicating its intention to exit such a bus stop, cars on the parallel carriage way should give way. Drivers will know when they need to do this from the clear markings on the road. Also private cars cannot drive on bus lanes. Indeed there are fines that apply if road signs and markings (these and any others) are ignored.
Simonide Rancati
Jun 30th 2011, 21:04
Special rates for students and anzjani but not for holders of ''yellow card'' (disability).
Why has this not been taken into consideration?
M Cauchi
Jun 30th 2011, 20:48
The new buses should be better...hope that the drivers will be too...
Edmund Mifsud
Jun 30th 2011, 19:35
LETS GIVE WAY TO MALTESE MINI BUSES, USING RED MINI BUSES JAQBILLEK
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jul 1st 2011, 10:39
That's precisely the spirit of competition that is being fostered with this reform.
From ancient dirty rude monopolies... to competition and resultant better service.
That's the only way forward, not just for public transport.
Ray Gatt
Jul 1st 2011, 12:28
Well yes if you enjoy travelling like chicks in cages at about 80/90kms/hour. As our school kids do.
Edmund Mifsud
Jun 30th 2011, 19:32
ARE WE GOING TO GET FINES IF WE DO NOT GIVE WAY TO THE BUSES, I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE MANY GIVE WAY SIGNS PAINTED PRIOR TO THE BUSLANE EXITS. AND IN MARSA EVERY MORNING DO WE HAVE ECCESS TO USE THE BUS LANE WITHOUT GETTING A FINE WHEN THE TRAFFICE IS PANDAMIC
Emanuel Delia
Jul 1st 2011, 06:59
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. The point of bus lanes is for buses and other public transport vehicles to get to their destination quicker. It is by definition an incentive for people to use the bus rather than driver their cars to their destination. Unless expressly instructed to do so on site by a traffic policeman or similar authority, private cars are not allowed to use bus lanes even when this means waiting longer in traffic. Indeed there are applicable fines for not following this rule, as with any other traffic regulation.
Gabriel Spiteri
Jun 30th 2011, 19:17
Yes, till now I am happy with the new service. There is new vehicles, new routes, better time management I and whole new and improved service. I expect a good service with the correct attitude by drivers together.
Regarding fares i think that they are very reasonable especially for those who travel more than one time a day. Also the Saver Cards are very useful. I will wait for the service to start to criticise and not criticise like some ignorant people.
Thanks,
Gabriel
Edmund Mifsud
Jun 30th 2011, 20:16
How come you are happy with a service that it is not yet in practice, like they say the proof of the pie is in the eating, not in the advertising or pictures.
Kenneth Harmsworth
Jun 30th 2011, 21:15
12 points to Gianfresco Buttigieg
Mr Chris Debono
Jun 30th 2011, 18:57
I don't like the fact that all the town names on the bus stop signs are in Maltese, even in tourist areas...it doesn't make sense.
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jun 30th 2011, 19:52
No offense but it is your comment that doesn't make sense. If you go abroad in what language are they?
Plus it doesn't take a huge level of intelligence to figure out that Mosta and Il-Mosta are one and the same. Tourists aren't complete imbeciles.
However, having a bus stop called, say, "South Street" (or "South") and a Triq in-Nofsinhar would confuse them more (how would they know they're the same thing?) than having unity - a bus stop called Nofsinhar and a street called Triq in-Nofsinhar.
Clare Cassingena
Jun 30th 2011, 23:52
Oh come on.... it's high time to use our language. It's being done by Arriva - foreigners themselves!
They do not find it difficult as that's what you find when you go abroad. For them this is a standard practice and it's the same for our tourists. Arriva is leading by example. I travel to other countries and this is not big deal. In Poland, for instance, I did find my way without any hassle with names like Trzcińsko-Zdrój!
Our town names are much easier than that and our language is an official EU language.
Ray Gatt
Jul 1st 2011, 12:32
Are you for real???
Clare Cassingena
Jul 2nd 2011, 11:51
I would ask that to you! I'm sure there are others who experienced this. It's interesting - part of the fun when travelling in other countries. Go abroad and see for yourself.
Agata Ka
Jun 30th 2011, 17:26
I am quite happy, that the new bus service takes over, but I have one "but":
Till now from St. Pauls Bay you could get a bus directly to Mosta, and it was about 13 minutes for the whole trip, now I do not have a direct bus - I have to make a trip all over Bugibba (8 stops), then to Qawra (4stops) and back to Bugibba again (2 stops). I wonder how much longer will it take people to get from St. Paul's Bay to Mosta... Not the best planing here I would say...
Emanuel Delia
Jul 1st 2011, 07:02
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Your trip to Mosta will be a few minutes longer. The balance of this is that when your destination is not Mosta but, say, Rabat or Paola or a long list of other options previously only available to you once you got to Floriana or Valletta, are now available to you at the Buġibba interchange.
Mark Mangion
Jun 30th 2011, 17:18
Dear Mr Delia,
Please refer to the comments on this article too: http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110628/local/Sliema-bus-stops-get-wrong-names.372749
We do hope that the bus stop names are corrected - without spelling mistakes and without strange names. Please use full names as we all know them - they are still short: Sant'Antnin (not Antnin) or Lucija (for Santa Lucija!), Ghar id-Dud (not Dud) or Karm (for Dun Karm) etc.
Full names are also used in other countries. Using the name how we all know it is easier to remember.
Thanks for your kind attention.
Dennis Zammit
Jun 30th 2011, 22:14
I made the same comment to Mr Delia on Radio 101 Live.
His answer was that in London there are only around 300 train stations and they use the full name but since in Malta we have over 1800 bus stops, they could not use more than one word.
VERY SILLY EXCUSE. Does Mr Delia think that people do not go abroad?????
In London, EVEN THE BUS STOPS have a full name such as Russel Square (even the Undergrund Station), Oxfrod Street, Baker Street, Covent Garden. Some of the bus stops even have extra descriptions such as 'Alight here for British Museum'.
So why do we compare ourselves with other countries, for Arriva with the UK but still mix up things and expect that EVERYONE is an IDIOT.
Mr Delia, please respect our intelligence(even minimal), even if we are not that fortunate to be bus transport experts like yourself and be in your position.
PS. Arriva in London still uses the London Transport colours; RED BUSES so why did Malta have to change to their green colour?
Andrew Holland
Jul 1st 2011, 13:26
They use a red livery in London because, like all TfL contracted operators, they are legally required to do so. The Mayor of London imposed this rule in order to preserve the red London bus image as an internationally recognised symbol of London.
Mr Daniel Vella
Jun 30th 2011, 15:16
Hi I would lke to comment about the organisation of works which were carried out to become Arriva compliant. This was a very good occasion for Transport Malta to show off some thoughtful, up-to-standard way of organising traffic diversions so as to make it safer for the workers doing the job and also help traffic flow smoothly in the areas where the works were being carried out. Unfortunately it turned out to be just a show of arrogance. Lack of proper road signs, scheduling of works, lack of flow management and inexistance of proper information to road users were just few of the points which I could think of during the endless time spent in traffic jams over the last couple of months. And when will Transport Malta kindly do an educational campain about all the new traffic signs it has put up? Or will these be another cash generating educational exercise on the backs of us car owners/drivers? Very well done to Transport Malta for keeping up to their usual impeccable service and style of doing things!!!
Charles Sammut
Jun 30th 2011, 15:03
Please,please people....let us taste the service before we start criticising!
So many of you are already passing negative comments....."the proof of the pudding is in the eating!"
The "pudding" is not even out of the oven yet, so how can you say it does'nt taste so good?!?
I am sure that Arriva will have a hotline for our comments and perhaps it might be a good start for the PR people at Arriva to publicise a hotline number and email for us to send in any constructive criticisms.
And please,please let us not have any stupid and derogative comments. We must bear in mind,that this is a new company and the changeover will not and cannot happen overnight !
Let us give Ariiva a go and help the company in giving us and the visitors to our island a great transport system!
....and the beat goes on....and the beat goes on.....
Ellie M.
Jun 30th 2011, 14:45
Mr.Delia what is going to happen to the old route bus 29/30?!?!
People of Zejtun how will they arrive to Valletta for work or to do their daily errands??
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 16:34
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Route 81 connects directly to Valletta in the new service.
Charles Sammut
Jun 30th 2011, 17:06
@ Emanuel Delia
i suggest that the villages/ destinations names on the new signs be reviewed.
I have seen for example one sign saying : "Ballut" why not "Balluta"
" il-Mosta" why not "Mosta"
good luck for 3rd July!
..and the beat goes on....and the beat goes on....
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jun 30th 2011, 14:13
Mr. Delia - thank you for your answers.
I've got 4 questions:
1. Route 125 passes through Hamrun, Fleur-de-Lys Rd, Bkara Terminus, Psaila St and then goes down the ramp (I forgot the name) to Msida and eventually terminates at Blata l-Bajda. To get to Valletta you'd need to take another bus. Is this correct? I'm a great champion of interchanges but it does seem excessive to change for such a short stretch - are there plans to review this line and extend it to Valletta - its natural terminus? (it could be renumbered '54' and become a mainline route)
2. It is clear many are not finding the map as useful as hoped to figure out their journeys - will Google Map integration or a schematic map with all stops be provided in the near future?
3. When will online bus tracking and tracking by SMS be introduced?
4. Where is the "Mdina" interchange in Rabat? Saqqajja, the current Rabat centre terminus (near 'is-Serkin') or elsewhere?
Thanks again
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 16:39
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service.
In reply to your question: 1. Route 125 joins a very busy Valletta-bound bus corridor already at the Fleur de Lys turning into Santa Venera. From anyone of these points people can interchange very quickly for onward travel to Valletta. Extending the line to Valletta would slow down its turnaround back between Guardamangia and Birkirkara and therefore lose some of the attractiveness of the line. Of course there are several ways into Valletta from Birkirkara (near the old rail-way station) so if you're departing from that point and intend to go to Valletta, you should go directly on routes 41, 42 and 43 rather than use 125 and interchange.
2. We have asked Arriva to consider distributing a schematic map as well. We will inform them of your suggestion.
3. Real time information on buses will be provided from almost all interchange points from Sunday and within a few days from all of them. This will be available on information screens being set up now. Real time information from all bus stops over SMS is due to be rolled out during the first year of the service.
4. That interchange is located close to the Roman Villa.
Adrian Catania
Jun 30th 2011, 14:01
I wish Arriva a successful start, and hope that Malta will now have an efficient public transport system up to European standards. May I also suggest that the yellow buses, especially the old ones which tourists love so much, be used for tourist tours around the island. I think it is better than having them put in a museum. And why not use the old colour scheme that was used in the past, having the old buses repainted according to the different routes they served? Something colourful which will be enjoyed not only by tourists but also by the locals.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 16:41
Public transport regulations permit vintage Maltese buses (the ones with the very specific shape with the engine in front of the windscreen) to provide siteseeing services. Transport Malta informs that it has received expressions of interest from operators to run such services.
Mr Joe Anastasi
Jun 30th 2011, 12:13
The service can only be as good as the people providing it. By this I mean the bus drivers themselves. They are Arriva's contact with the users.
I understand we will be having the same bus drivers as we have now, so I can only expect more of the same.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 12:33
Thank you for your interest in the new service. As a point of information the majority of the drivers that will start working this Sunday were not employed or did not work on the old bus service but were trained from scratch by the new operator over the past several months. Also discipline in the new service can be expected to be improve for a number of reasons, such as that: (1) drivers will no longer be self employed but will instead be employees of an employer who will lose business if staff provide bad service; (2) all buses are equipped with on board CCTV at all times to monitor among other things staff behaviour; and (3) subsidies compensating for lost business will be stopping in the new contract. Emanuel Delia, Transport Ministry.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:35
Not true. Some of them will be, but many are newly trained drivers.
And there is one big difference: at present, the drivers are owners.
With the new system, if any, they will be EMPLOYEES of a company
that has no less than SIX cameras on each bus.
Discipline can then be enforced by a company that responds.
Mr M Borg
Jun 30th 2011, 13:30
@ Emanuel Delia
Very good of you to read all the comments that are being written. Maybe you can find time to answer one question.
The old bus 63 has been repalced by Bus or route 32 ,when one sees the route this bus will take can you let us know how we Sliema residents are expected to make use of it?
Surely the bus will be full by the time it reaches the centre of Sliema,i.e Dingli Street .
This bus has 2 stops at Floriana, 2 stops at Pieta , 2 stops at Msida , 2 stops at University, 2 stops at Mater Dei, 9 stops at San Gwann , 3 stops at Kappara and 13 stops at Sliema. before going on to Valletta.
It reaches the centre Dingli Street ( which you named Huber on the bus stop ) after the 6 th Stop.
Can you let us Sliema residents know how we can ever be able to board this bus if it first does a trip round the island ? How could you include two important stops, University and Mater Dei on this route ?
The old 63 used to take 15-20 mins from Valletta , this new route is sure to take over an hour.
L SPITERI
Jun 30th 2011, 13:32
Kindly I would like to ask whether the route from Marsascala to Valletta is going to change from the present route shown on your website? All residents living next to St Thomas Bay, will have to walk down to Marsascala centre, ( next to the swings) to take a bus to Valletta. My mum, 67 years old, uses the bus 3 to 4 times a week and presently takes the bus from the bus stop called Marsascala Ashby. Can you imagine having to walk for half an hour in winter or in the heat of the summer just to take a bus from the centre of Marsascala!
Thanks Mr Delia for replying, at least there is someone showing interest in our issues.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 16:45
@ Mr M Borg. Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Bus 32 is scheduled to run every 10 minutes at peak times (between 7am and 7pm). The operator is contractually bound to ensure that it has enough capacity to meet demand and therefore have space for passengers waiting to board the bus at the time it is due to arrive. The operator can meet this demand in various ways. It can deploy more buses on routes that are busier at certain times; it can start services mid-point at the route to compliment buses that have started from the original point (say start empty with a 32 from Dingli Street if buses tend to fill up by the time they get there); or deploy spares in emergency situations. The job of Transport Malta will be to make sure this happens.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 16:47
@ Mr L Spiteri. Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Route 135 passes by St Thomas Bay and passengers wanting to travel to Valletta can then interchange at Marsaskala centre for their onward journey.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:00
1. I use the buses very frequently. The new service certainly cannot be worse than the present utterly dismal and ancient one.
2. There will surely be some teething troubles. Let's give the new service a good running in before we pass judgment.
3. The new model will be much better: one company that can respond, unlike the old model where nothing could change because there were simply too many owners.
4. I live near the Airport and we will be very well served with the new Express routes from the Airport. Buses will run till 11pm daily (not 9pm as of now) and there will be Night Buses.
5. The new fare structure is definitely much better: cheaper than at present for frequent users, and you don't have to pay again when you change buses. I have just paid my private car insurance and it's dearer than all-year public transport for €288. On Sunday I'll buy my first day ticket and can go all around Malta for just €1.50! (50c if you're over 60)
6. Public transport has a great social and community value: you can meet different people on buses, unlike solitary transport by private car. And it's so egalitarian.
7. I can read on the buses while someone else drives me. Pure bliss.
8. I hope private cars won't clog the green bus lanes. Up to the present, they usually did.
9. On Sunday I'll take number 201:
Airport, Kirkop, Safi, Żurrieq, Blue Grotto, Ħaġar Qim, Mnajdra, Għar Lapsi, Tal-Providenza, Siġġiewi, Dingli Cliffs, Dingli, Rabat/Mdina, Baħrija, and all the way back. How's that for a 'Panoramic route'?
10. We'll have the service - now let's make use of it. Finally - after 60 long years - there's someone with the brains and the guts to take on the old bus owners and rid Malta of their sheer arrogance and dirty rickety old buses. Now we have to do our part as well and use them.
Ray Gatt
Jun 30th 2011, 13:05
Well said Mary Jo. Regarding parking on bus stops, I would suggest that bus drivers have a number to wardens and/or police and/ or tow truck service so that everytime they meet the problem, the said vehicle gets towed away. That's the only way people learn hopefully.
I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that some of the present bus owners and drivers have something up their sleeve to cause problems. I suggest authorities keep their eyes open day and night for such thugs.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 13:39
Ray Gatt,
You're so right. The old bus drivers are still using their old bullying tactics and we should expect the worst from them come Sunday and Monday.
I've heard that many of them indicated they would be working for Arriva but they are now saying they're not going to work for the new company.
Arriva will have a problem until it can train enough new drivers.
Still, we'll keep our fingers crossed. There will certainly be some teething problems. It does help that the service is starting in summer. That was an intelligent move.
Mr Anthony Pace Gouder
Jun 30th 2011, 11:50
Obviously the naming of Bus Stops is ridiculous ! IPPERMETTULI nghaid 'Xoghol tac-Cwiec' AS this seems to be the case with a great number of bus stops all over the ISLAND . Apparently the Local Councils were not even consulted . What a PITY !
Bus Stops(BS) I've seen early this morning, in St.Julians/San Gwann are named as 'Kappara' ????????
Then we have EXTREMES as in the case of BS 'Dud' in the MESSED-UP Sliema stages and MESSED-UP NAMES , while we get a 'Kappara' BS 'Kuncizzjoni' ?....and another hopelessly christened 'CLARISSI(INDIPENDENT)'!!!!!!!!! .
This may be the longest name ever and DUD(e) the shortest !
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 12:38
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. We are sorry you think the new bus stop names are ridiculous. The idea of even having a name on Malta's bus stops is new and may feel strange at first. The whole point is for people to be able to have a point of reference when they need to make a stop in a place they are not familiar with. If say a restaurant advertises to customers using the bus, they can give bus numbers as well as specific destinations to visitors know where to stop without even recognising any of the landmarks around. The names match information on maps as well as real time information on board buses. 1,818 bus stops had to be named for the first time and some mistakes were made. Obviously many can have an opinion of what a name can be given to a place but the effort has been to keep names short to avoid illegible clutter or crawls on maps and monitors. Names have often been lifted from nearby street names or landmarks and as much as some street names may appear strange sometimes, some bus stops names may need a little getting used to. Some bus stop names may also need changing so your input is very welcome. Emanuel Delia, Transport Ministry.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:39
They had already stated long ago that the new bus stop names will be just one word for simpicity and efficiency. It makes sense, especially after you've got used to them.
Was it better before when we had no names for bus stops and you couldn't ever explain where you were or where you had to stop?
Mr M Borg
Jun 30th 2011, 13:49
@ Emanuel Delia
While I understand that names on Bus Stops had to be kept short and that the " whole point was to provide people with a point of reference," what made you name the Bus Stop at Dingli Circus - Howard ?
Why name the Bus Stop at the top of Dingli Street --Huber ? The names given to the bus stops on the Sliema Front must be changed now not after 6 months.
If as you say tourists are told to stop near " the Tower " why should they be made to stop at " Il Fortizza " because of a bus stop which reads Torri .
Mr Antoine Vella
Jun 30th 2011, 16:16
I agree that the bus stops should have a name but why does it have to be only one word? What's worng with having San Vincenz instead of Vincenz, for example and why Dud instead of Għar id-dud?
Mark Mangion
Jun 30th 2011, 17:38
I agree with Antoine Vella - some one word names are really vague and hard to understand.
We all say Għar id-Dud and San Vincenz and those names should be used. It's ridicolous having Qali (instead of Ta' Qali) or Warda (for Hal Warda).
Gianfrancesco Buttigieg
Jun 30th 2011, 11:44
@ Conrad Micallef - well said
It is evident many of you going all watery eyed about how absolutely fantastic the old system was never seem to have spent a long time in the summer heat wondering if the bus will ever get there and, if by some miracle it does, the bus driver might not decide its full up even if it isn't and by a bigger miracle you get on the bus he decides to skip a street or two while you sweat profusely at the back on a broken bench with a blocked window while he is otherwise occupied at swearing at tourists and yelling on his mobile phone while the latest italo-disco club blares through the speakers as it belches black smoke everywhere.
I, for one, welcome things which were taken for granted in other countries like schedules, proper informative bus stops (even misnamed ones), bilingual signs, new buses and above all - airconditioned, comfortable buses with drivers who aren't surly and unreasonable...
You feel certain routes are incovenient? Try them first (with interchanges etc) and if you still feel that - write to TM and Arriva clearly explaining what is wrong (they will be reviewed before October... it's useless complaining here if you don't write to them)
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:15
Well said, Mr Buttigieg.
It's clear most people commenting negatively here never used the old buses.
We who actually use the buses need a modern and efficent service, not misplaced nostalgia.
Jesse Galea
Jun 30th 2011, 12:57
...it's clear that whoever is commenting negatively is simply a grumpy old soul who sees everything dark and grey!!
Elaine Manduca
Jun 30th 2011, 17:49
Sure. Having bilingual signs is a very positive step in the right direction. Well done Arriva and MITC. Keep it up!
I work with a lot of tourists and they all enjoy reading our language on street signs. They do tell me and expect us to have more bilingual signs in Malta, as in other countries with more than one official language. They are always curious and love saying placenames in Maltese.
M Borg
Jun 30th 2011, 11:38
Perfect tribute to the Traditional Malta Bus. A fan page tribute certainly showing that it will be missed !
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Traditional-Malta-Bus/110388445652491
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 13:43
Let's put the old buses
- together with their rude drivers -
in a museum and
KEEP THEM THERE FOR EVER.
On Sunday 3rd July 2011
it will be Freedom Day for people who have been
saddled for so many years
with a shoddy, dirty and rude old bus service.
Good riddance.
Mr edward hayman
Jun 30th 2011, 11:34
Kulhadd li uzaw tal-linja ghandhom ezperjenzi differenti, l-aktar tal-karatura tal-kuccier. Ghalija l-aghar meta mort minn valletta sa l-isla kien hemm mhux hafna passigieri iehor u hdejn is-sewwieq kien hemm t-tifel u tifla, hbieb tas-sewwieq u kull l-hin sa wassal Bormla huma pacpac flimkien it-tlieta, s-sewwieq isuq veloci,( waqaf forsi 2 jew 3 drabi biss) jibqa jares lejn il-hbieb mhux zomm ghajnejn fuq it-triq, listess ndur rokna u niezel fiha Bormla, jien nizzel hdejn triq san gwann bormla. dak kien vjagg tal-biza u nahseb il-hih tal vjagg ikun r-rekord. ahna kienu nifrah ( jien u tnejn iehor) meta nizzlu minn tal-linja. IMMA wara dak nista qalek dak is-sewwieq kien jidher guvni tal karatur tajjeb u dhuli hafna, Nitama bit tahrig propju ikollu impjieg bil kumpanija gdida.
Carlos Espinal
Jun 30th 2011, 11:12
I could not be happier.
Despite all the inconveniences that will exist during the time people adapt to the new routes a schedules, the benefits will far outweigh any potential problem.
> I do not want to breath toxic fumes from old buses.
> I do not want a driver to ask me to get off the bus because I do no have exact change.
> I do not want a driver asking be to get off 300 metres before the next stop because "he is not going there today"
> I do not want drivers allowing users to fill the buses way beyond the allowed numbers.
> I do not want drivers driving at full speed and cornering tightly just because they are late on their schedule.
> I want the buses to STOP at the bus stop.
> I want them to give me exact change when I pay, the same way the ask me for exact change when I have to pay.
> I don't want them to smoke, put music, or dress like they just escaped from jail.
> I certainly do not want the glorious entrance to Valetta turned to a polluted, disorganised transport flea market from some chaotic city in the third world.
> I want schedules to be respected
> I want to feel I can rely on a public transportation service for all my commuting needs.
> I want to use my car for leisure and heavier tasks ONLY.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:11
Very very well said, Mr Espinal.
Mrs Krystle Micallef
Jun 30th 2011, 13:47
x ilsien taz-zokkor andek mr carlos espinal!! ma tridx tghid li int bniedem edukat hux tikteb dan il-kliem fuq haddiehor u titfa lil kulhadd f keffa wahda!
mela 1. it truckjiet li gejjin ha jkunu aktar nies bil wieqfa milli bilqeda allura ha jkunu aktar loaded
2. ha jkollom hinijiet xi jlahqu min post al iehor iridu jaslu 5 minuti allura ha jsuqu aktar,
3. tibzax fuq il-bus stop ha jieqfu ax jekk ikun em min irid jitla barra l-istage issa mhux ha jtellawh u l-anqas inizlu passiegieri
4. ghal bqija m andekx problema ax issa rounded issa ma jimportax ax thallas 1.50 flok 94c
j alla l-arriva (barranin) ikunu ta sodisfazzjoni ghalik
Conrad Micallef
Jun 30th 2011, 10:54
May I suggest people only post here IF AND ONLY IF they have used the BUS at least 5 times in the last 12 months...
Carlos Espinal
Jun 30th 2011, 11:14
You got it!.
I used every day! I don't plan on stop using it even though I am considering buying a car soon.
A Cordina
Jun 30th 2011, 10:52
Unfortunately no bus stop has been erected in Gozo yet so I can't comment on the names given to bus stops...so I just had a glimpse at the timetables and I saw that the morning bus to the ferry passing from East Gozo arrives in Mgarr at 6:05 (the ferry leaves Mgarr at 6.00!) and that bus 41 (Cirkewwa-Valletta, passing through B'kara) leaves at 6:20 (the ferry arrives at 6:30!)
Shelley Mizzi
Jun 30th 2011, 10:34
Hi I would like to comment about the route Bugibba/Qawra/St Paul's Bay to Golden Sands/Ghajn Tuffieha. The reason I'm asking is that according to the route map as seen on the Arriva site for a person to go from Bugibba/Qawra/St Paul's Bay to Golden Sands/Gahjn Tuffieha a trip which at present normally takes about 15/20 minutes with the new Arriva schedule people have to go first to Mosta or Mellieha get a bus from there the Mosta route takes you half around the island, and then go to Golden sands/Ghajn Tuffieha which will involve two bus trip and take a lot longer time to get there (the Mellieha route is shorter true). Considering that a large number of tourists and locals alike, I and many of my collegues who work in the tourism industry think that it is a bad decision taken by Arriva or it might be that whoever came up with this idea has never seen the long queues on the bus stops all through Bugibba and St Paul’s Bay all waiting to go to the beach in the scorching sun (this could be seen this morning) or he might have decided that it's Hobson's choice. I hope that Arriva will look into this matter and come up with something better than the present system or the one being proposed by Arriva. Thanks we wish you good luck and hope that this issue won't fall on deaf ears.
R.M. Mizzi
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 12:45
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. It should be clarified, though it will not be a consolation to you, that route decisions were taken by Transport Malta as regulator, not by Arriva that is obliged to at least operate the routes it is contracted for. (It can add routes if it wishes, but not reduce any without permission). The link from Mosta to Golden Bay is actually rather direct. From Mosta it proceeds straight to Mġarr and on to Golden Bay. And as you rightly point out there is another alternative way interchanging in Mellieħa which may prove just as quick. Interchange may be a relatively new concept for today's bus users since most of those who would have had to interchange in Valletta (and could do so) have already switched to car. One would have to try out the connections being provided as from Sunday. One may find that a more comfortable ride on a newer, air conditioned bus and an improved interchange (we just did up the interchange in Mosta along with another 22), chaning buses is not such a big deal after all. Not that a direct Buġibba-Golden Bay bus is in principle a bad idea. But it would have been far more necessary in the old network when the only alternative before that connection was provided, was having to go to Valletta first. We do appreciate your contribution however and will take it into account when further improvements will be considered. Emanuel Delia, Transport Ministry.
Mr Anthony Pace Gouder
Jun 30th 2011, 10:34
@Ms Monica Muscat
Seems like TM and ARRIVA have overlooked the fact that there are quite a numer of single-lane roads . What is even worst is having a crash -barrier as on the Tal-ballal road ( San Gwann / Naxxar ). road from Paceville to Tigne is practically TOO NARROW and with continuous traffic in both directions overtaking is impossible moreover with these BIG ARRIVA buses.
Once caught behind slow MOVERS , you have to keep cool, forget time and control your frustration. Recently, and rarely, I boarded a bus from Bahar ic-Caghaq , as my car was in for repairs, and the trip ran smooth ,UNTIL the bus slowed down to a ONE HORSE POWER SPEED ! Sure enough a KARROZZIN was the cause and it took 10 MINUTES to go round the BAY from Spinola , just two bus stops until I got off at Balluta !
The only CHANCE for that Bus to overtake the Karrozzin was at Fond Ghadir , at that speed probably 20 minutes later !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:16
Marelli, Mr Pace Gouder, ma tara xejn tajjeb inti?
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 12:49
Thank you for your interest in the new transport system. One thing we have done is ask the operator to have buses of different sizes operating on different routes according to passenger demand and the capacity of the infrastructure. Until Saturday we have basically a single size for all routes. For some routes that's too small and leads to the proverbial "full up hi!" remark when demand exceeds capacity. For some routes today's size is too big, which is why, for example, we had no buses inside Valletta until this Sunday. The new fleet ranges from the smallest buses that are 7 metres long and the biggest at 18.5 metres. This doesn't mean that double parking or reckless driving will not effect buses (and any large vehicle) more than any smaller car. But this change to our system is bound to make the problem you describe that little bit easier to deal with.
Manuel Delia - Transport Ministry.
Ray Gatt
Jun 30th 2011, 12:53
Take your car or get a taxi and you'll still be stuck behind the Karrozzin!!! LOL What ridiculous compalints some of you come up with. If you don't like it, don't use it. I live in Mellieha and to catch a bus I've been having to walk for about eight minutes for the past 14 years. So what? I actually enjoy it in the morning and it does me good even if sometimes I have to walk in the rain or the heat of the sun. In the rain I use a thing called umbrella (ever heard of it?) and wear a raincoat. In summer I know that I might get sweaty, but at least now I know that the Arriva buses are airconditioned, unlike the old, stuffy, fumed, smelly, noisy, buses and drivers (not all) we've had so far. Is there anything you don't complain about Mr. Perfect Pace Gouder, or do you spend all day and night thinking what to complain about next??? Maltese Gemgem.
PS. After all Arriva already said they will be looking into the routes again in November.
Ms Francesca Abela
Jun 30th 2011, 10:24
Residents and tourists who need to get to zabbar or fgura from near the Cerviola hotel are asking what has happened to the route of the old 19 Bus?? It seems that the 91 bus which is evey 10 mins will NOT go up to near the Cerviola, Jerma areas!! So are people supposed to go to the Airport and take a bus back to Zabbar??? This is sheer lunacy and if this is true then Marsascala will be even WORSE off then it has ever been!! What about to get to Cospica for ther market??? How are people to do?? Walk at least 10 - 15 mins to the square in the summer heat and winter rain?? These need to be seen to NOW not after 6 months!! People know the routes and they have already made complaints and suggestions.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 12:56
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Route 135 operates close to the area you describe and connects with bus 91 (that passes through Zabbar) at the Marsaskala stop (at the innermost part of the bay).
jane deguara nee hughes
Jun 30th 2011, 10:07
well lets hope the drivers have more respect, for instance this morning a driver pulled up in a bus stop in Mtarfa sir leslie rundel street, got out of his bus and went to wee in the corner of the shelter, hes lucky i didnt report him, dirty pig
C Muscat
Jun 30th 2011, 10:04
If I have to walk for more than 10 minutes because the route passing nearby is going to be stopped than I will not be using the service anymore. The 71 terminus at birkirkara used to cater from the terminus to fleur de lys road up to new bov centre appears to be removed from the service by arriva. it is a shame to be taking us for this kind of ride!!!
Ray Gatt
Jun 30th 2011, 12:39
Get walking and shed those extra pounds.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 12:57
Thank you for your interest in the new service. The connection you describe will be served by route 125.
Christina Pace
Jun 30th 2011, 09:55
And did you see the airport express route to Bahrija? How many people are gonna land on this rock and decide to randomly go to Bahrija. And funnily enough it will be the only route that takes you there, which ain't fair for the residents cause then they'll have to pay more to get home and away than they would have had to pay otherwise and it also takes longer.
MaryJo Camenzuli
Jun 30th 2011, 12:07
That route is NOT and Express route.
You refer to no. 201 which goes through Kirkop, Safi, Żurrieq, Siġġiewi, Dingli, Rabat and then Baħrija. So it's not just for Baħrija residents (who can stop at Rabat and take other buses) but also for all these villages that now have a direct link with the Airport and with the villages on the same route.
The Express routes from the Airport go elsewhere: Valletta, Ċirkewwa, St Julians and Buġibba. And what a good idea they are, I must say.
Emanuel Delia
Jun 30th 2011, 13:02
Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. The Airport is obviously a destination and a point of origin in and of itself but it will also now serve as a major interchange point providing people with travel options that previously did not exist. The bus you refer to (route 201) stops at a number of important tourist spots on the way to Baħrija (Blue Grotto, Ħaġar Qim, Limestone Heritage, Dingli Cliffs, Roman Villa among others). Therefore the fact that the Airport is frequently connected with places where tourists stay (Sliema, Buġibba, San Ġiljan, etc.) will mean that to go these points people can travel directly to the airport (or Rabat at the other end, also well connected to tourist hubs) and interchange to their final destination. From the point of view of the people of Baħrija, terminating this bus there means that compared with the four trips a day they have in today's service, they will now have hourly bus connections to Rabat all day every day from which to continue to their final destination at any time of day.