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Updated - The new bus service – Have your say

The 106-year-old history of the Malta bus service starts a new chapter on Sunday when Arriva launches operations.

The introduction of new buses and a new network has inevitably brought with it all sort of emotions. Many cannot wait to see the end of the diesel-belching yellow buses but others will miss the character of old. Others look forward to reliability, and many have complained about the new routes.

What are your views and expectations? Are you satisfied with the new network and the fares? Do you have any suggestions or complaints?

Tell us about them by submitting your comment.

A spokesman for the Ministry of Transport - Emanuel Delia - will be clarifying or correcting some of the points raised by readers.

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Ms Francesca Abela

Aug 8th 2011, 14:48

Ezatt - A. Caruana, Arriva's non arrival service is making Marsaskala commuters sick with delays, sick with walking 1 kilometer in the sun and sick of all the hype. I heard there were several petitions going around in Marsascala, what exactly is the Marsaskala Local Council doing about all these problems = one big fat zero. Again they show they all know nothing about this village, The Cospicua Bus is used most on Tuesday for the Birgu Market, the rest of the week it's nearly empty, what people need are not the priorities of Arriva and of Transport Malta, they changed a complete route and have ignored the most pressing one - the direct Bus no 91 to Valletta, is this a case of the blind leading the blind? When is Arriva going to do a survey for the passengers to learn what they want not what Transport Malta decided they want and when is the route 91 going to finally start operating as it should be and as it is on the website? ie from Triq il- Qaliet? And when are Arriva going to put timetables on all the bus stops in Marsaskala, and also arrange the mistakes on the Stops?

James Camilleri

Aug 8th 2011, 19:57

Very well said. We want a service which takes us from point A to B in the least possible time and at the scheduled time. With all its failings the old service did this. What is the point of having polite drivers (give them another year or two and we will see how polite they will remain) whom you see after a hour of waiting and ACs which if functioning are definitely needed to dry all the sweat from all the waiting? I agree that there were faults with the old system but at least it delivered (and this is said through experience not because our memory is short as someone intimated). As to the comment below (@ Joseph Attard) re Arriva being a credible organization in large places, please see comments by foreigners (especially from the U.K.). One even said "Now you know what we have to put up with in the U.K."

Ms Francesca Abela

Aug 8th 2011, 23:27

So Joseph Attard do you really expect Marsaskala residents to wait until the end of the year tio have a Bus from Valletta they can catch without walking 20 minutes first? No doubt you are one of the lucky commuters who have a multiple choice to Buses in your area, here down south we are the forgotten ones.

Carmel Cilia

Aug 9th 2011, 06:12

Arriva will deliver: when? Last Saturday afternoon the 41 bus left Valletta terminus at 5.30 p.m full. People were left to wait for the 6.00p.m. bus(under the old system Mr. Attard buses left Valletta for mellieha every15 minutes) the 600 p.m bus did not arrive; the 6.30p.m. bus did not arrive when finally at 6.45 a bus did arrive there was a run for it: the result many women and fragile persons were squashed and ended up after waiting for more than an hour for a bus standing all the way to mellieha.
The old system was not delivering enough but surely many people would today prefer to revert to the old system where at least the time schedule was often than not upheld. When the transport man was questioned he said that his only duty was to see the bus reversing out of the terminal; A terminal which took six months to finish without a public toilet, without a telephone kiosk. without shelter for waiting passengers, without any outlet for an elderly person to buy a bottle of water. Yes the government delivered a pig style( under E.U laws the terminal would not also pass a pig style test.

Mr Lawrence Fenech

Aug 7th 2011, 17:15

Sure shift G'Mangia to Hamrun or Msida easier.

A Caruana

Aug 6th 2011, 19:13

Prosit Sur Bonnici, exactly same words we have been Hammering to Arriva since 3rd July, to date, despite all the words, neither Marsascala, nor Zabbar nor Fgura have actually a decent Bus service, and when we complain they say we are moaners! We invite those people to try out the service that is available in the South of Malta to see who is right.

A Saliba

Aug 7th 2011, 18:42

Very well said Mr Bonnici. I had wrote about the bus stop in Convent Street (Lawrenz) a dozen times but nothing has changed. This is not a complaint of just one person but other commuters who make use of this bus stop to get off. As for the old routes, they were much better and reliable . Don't know who's idea was it to remove the old routes.

We are paying more for the new transport system whereas the old one was much cheaper and better run.

Transport Malta take action - Why is it that you do not have a customer care e-mail and instead we are re directed to the Arriva site to make our complaints?

Also Arriva drivers, please take care not to freeze us commuters with the AC. thank you

Ruby Jenner

Aug 6th 2011, 15:16

Yes Joe, where is Mr. Delia? There is a lot of clarifying and correcting to do. His silence says it all.

Joseph Bonnici

Aug 6th 2011, 17:05

Probably Emanuel Delia is still tied up in chains to Castile Place.

A Caruana

Aug 6th 2011, 19:16

Rumour has it that Mr Delia has left the Island ingognito, he is actually been sent to drive an Arriva bus in UK in exchange for one of the UK drivers. Reality and jokes aside - MR Delia should have been fired from his post together with Minister Gatt for the total disaster in the Public Transport, it is now going into the 6th week -- still 'teething' troubles ay??

cettina portelli

Aug 6th 2011, 17:57

oh, how i agree with you! the first bus for the 3cities, the no.2 is scheduled to arrive here at 0550am. it has NEVER arrived before 0615am. the first bus, the no.3 from xghajra is SUPPOSED to arrive in bormla at 0610am. it arrives any time after 0625am. HOW TO GET TO WORK ON TIME WEN THERE IS NO EARLY BUS??? there is a scheduled bus supposed to depart l'isla at 0530am. IT HAS NEVER EVER SHOWED UP. THE THREE CITIES NEED AN EARLY BUS DESPERATELY. the people of bormla, kalkara and birgu have NOTHING earlier than 0610am. AND THAT IS ONLY ON A GOOD DAY WHEN THE BUS TURNS UP. yes, we are using our cars and shall continue to do so until such time ARRIVA get their act together - IF THEY EVER DO.

John Mifsud

Aug 5th 2011, 22:27

The same i can say from my side! Used to get teh no 18 bus from Fgura at 5,35am and reach work by 6,20, Now, thanks to Transport Malta' stupid bus schedules, i arrive work at 7am! Is that what Arriva took over our transport??? For a million times, i once again suggest that another No91 bus departs either from Zabbar or Fgura to pick up all stranded passengers, who are all WORKERS not tourists! I guess that September 11 will come, and we''ll still be in this situation!! John Mifsud

Jairo Mifsud

Aug 6th 2011, 20:12

Quite Right...... All wrong in evert other persons mind..... since 3rd July ive seen a big step, if we wait we'll get there eventually as u said... IMMA AHNA IL-MALTIN JEKK XI HAGA MA TKUNX TAJBA MILL-EWWEL NINFAMAWA......
Arriva taqtawx qalbkom ghax si darba taslu ghalfejn ridtu taslu !

Mr francis darmanin

Aug 5th 2011, 16:24

you must be joking... do you really believe the UHM will participate in anything of the sort

James Camilleri

Aug 6th 2011, 00:28

I believe such a protest march is going to be held. To make sure check with facebook's "Moviment Tindahalx".

cettina portelli

Aug 6th 2011, 18:04

I think people are doing their own silent protest - OUT OF NECESSITY - i, and all of my family are using our cars again and for those family members who dont have cars, we arrange lifts for them. what choice do we have? we have to get to work, hospital appointments and such things on time.

Carmel Cilia

Aug 5th 2011, 09:36

Whilst you were haveing your thumbs up at a cafe in St. Pauls Bay many maltese and tourist were having a sauna bath or risking a sun stroke on several stages along the route. We want the service we were promised or else revert back to the old system. We prefer what we had( when we arrived in time for work at fixed hours) instead of a gamble every time we go to get a bus. F'hiex gibuna, veru issa pajjiz tar-raba dinja.

James Dewar

Aug 5th 2011, 10:48

Dave, That is positive! Hope you didn't think my earlier comment addressed to Mr "Jars" was directed at you!! Hopefully we may well be able to get from A to B when we return to Qawra in September although the length of time it may take remains to be seen!!

Paul Bates

Aug 5th 2011, 10:55

I am a qualified transport manager, there is without doubt room for a full commercial operation of public transport on Malta, built route by route or area by area, without the need for mass public funds injection.
A judicial protest against the two tier fare structure would be interesting as this could prove illegal under EU laws.

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 5th 2011, 14:18

James not all mate !

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 5th 2011, 16:37

Sorry James meant to read ,Not AT all mate !

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 4th 2011, 22:18

Oh Paul I wonder why, the other initial bidders would not touch it .
My informed sources tell me that National Express even walked away.

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 4th 2011, 23:30

Dinny no go forget your Scottish neebs that are stuck here, LOL
Safe trip
Dave & Jos Smith

John Mifsud

Aug 5th 2011, 22:37

I guess Emanuel Delia has NEVER read any of our comments, complaints and suggestions!! Just ask the residents of Fgura who have to expect a miracle to board a bus No 91 coming from Marsascala, as by the time it reaches Zabbar, it is already full up! Thanks Transport Malta for the excellent bus service!!! Pajjiz tal Mickey Mouse!!.... John Mifsud

Ludgard Scicluna

Aug 4th 2011, 12:52

Dear Mr.Caligari,
You are absolutely right. I use to take no 4 bus from Cappucini road ervery half an hour.
I live by the Xghajra Hse Estate. Whenever I use to go to Zabbar, I use to ride the 21 bus,. but now 21 bus
route has finished. Therefore, now, on going to Zabbar, I have to take two buses, No3 to Paola and then No 91 to Zabbar. What a disgrace. Who is responsible? bla....bla....bla.... You have to wait next
SEPTEMBER.

A Caruana

Aug 6th 2011, 16:17

Maybe we should all go on a hunger strike to get our old routes back?? Then maybe we will all be visited by our Prime Minister who interestingly lives in my same locality - Marsascala but is oblivious to the situation where to get a bus to Valletta we residents have to walk 20 minutes to get the Bus 91, where before we had 3 buses an hour to Valletta passing from Triq il Qaliet and one an hour to Cospicua!!

Gary Jameson

Aug 3rd 2011, 21:31

To James:

Actually, I'm very impressed that they've managed to rack up such a list of 'teething' problems in their first month!

James Dewar

Aug 3rd 2011, 19:34

Monica, Thats encouraging to hear! One may say that it has to be improving as it could hardly have got any worse!! (The only way is up!!) Don't share your optimism re everything being ironed out by September though, (unless they drastically change the routes) but here's hoping!!

Doris Farrugia

Aug 4th 2011, 11:18

And reconsider going through the airport again cause we commuters from Gaxaq/Gudja were making use of route 71 and 72 since our bus route has been removed by some kind of idiot at TM at least until the promised X5 starts operating.

Hugh Jackson

Aug 6th 2011, 01:22

What was good about the old buses? We had to wait for half an hour or more to go to Marsascala

Mrs Janet Bayes

Aug 3rd 2011, 23:06

So disabled person stood and waited for the bus for half an hour or so? Well, I am disabled, stood for more than an hour in Bugibba, and then had to stand all the way to Cirkewwa, because of the ignorance of the public. How long would a disabled person have waited for an accessible bus before Arriva. With my disability I was not able to even access a bus - -

Ruby Jenner

Aug 4th 2011, 15:32

Good advice Elizabeth. Thanks.

John Mifsud

Aug 3rd 2011, 11:02

May route 91 offer better service to all Marsacala residents who deserve a better service! But we residents of Fgura are finding it IMPOSSIBLE to board bus 91 in the morning's first trips, thus many have been arriving late for work for the last 4 weeks!! I know, as I'm one of the 'victims' ! Ive been saying this for a whole month - a bus is needed to depart from either Zabbar or Fgura as bus 91 is always full up by the time it reaches Zabbar! We need action not fancy Arriva leaflets! John Mifsud

An. Caucchi

Aug 4th 2011, 08:01

Agree 100% with J. Mifsud.
In the early morning in Fgura is IMPOSSIBLE to take a 91 bus from Marsascala; and people who need a bus at 6:00 AM need it for WORK, not for going shopping or having fun !

So I should buy a car instead of using this "arriva service". And I know I am not alone.
Thanks Arriva, for this COMPLETE and TOTAL FAILURE.

Hugh Jackson

Aug 5th 2011, 21:05

Well not one or two times i personally had to wait for another bus since Zabbar residents used to go on bus number 19 instead of theirs 18

James Dewar

Aug 3rd 2011, 21:40

Mr "Jars", do you have anything good, complimentary or remotely positive to say about anybody or anything !?

Ruby Jenner

Aug 3rd 2011, 09:18

The mystery of the X23 has been solved. A driver yesterday informed me this is a temperary route, I think for the summer. It seems that customer care or the controller's haven't been told about it. Too many chief's not enough indians is how the driver put it.

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 3rd 2011, 14:37

James, very good !
Side issue, wonder if Hugh's Tourette syndrome can be helped ?

John Mifsud

Aug 3rd 2011, 15:25

how about TIGIEG as a name for one of the bus stops??? I saw this at San Gwann! What an original name to give!! The 'inventor' must have puzzled his mind for hours and hours to come out with such a name for a bus stop!! John Mifsud

Mr Lawrence Fenech

Aug 3rd 2011, 16:53

@ Henry


Sounds more like the "Mystery of Transport" to me.

Mr Clyde Ellul

Aug 4th 2011, 01:46

@Henry S. Pace

I believe you are mistaken. I stopped on that exact stop at Rue d'Argens today, and both the sign on the pole and the wording on the bus read "Argens".

As I was doubtful after reading your comment, I also checked on the Arriva website, and confirmed it's "Argens". Check out the journey planner's bus stop names of Msida for any route that pass through there including 11-13, 22, 23 and so on... it's Argens.

The bus stops are generally named after either the streets they are on, junctions or intersections close by, or land marks close by. The bus stops are also unique across all of Malta and Gozo, such that if a bus stop is say on Valletta Road (a street name that is more common than oranges and lemons), they cannot call every bus stop on these streets Valletta, as it would just confuse people even more. Also, bus stops must be composed of a single word (I believe this to be a technical limitation of their IT system). Which is why they would call a bus stop Argens, rather than D'Argens. The only exception I know of this, which I believe to be a mistake, is the bus stop for San Giljan terminus, which is called San Giljan rather than Giljan. As a result, when approaching this stop the electronic display inside the bus displays 'San' as the next stop, which is daft, and why I believe it's a technical limitation.

When people complain about bus stops, as with most other complaints in my opinion, they tend to miss the point... The whole point of bus stop names is not to name the locality, but to serve as a point of reference where to wait or get off a bus, so that you may easily tell a friend, a tourist or a customer which would be the closest stop to your house, hotel or shop... So whether it's Tigieg, or Zwiemel or Karfus, it really doesn't matter. For all one should care, they could just be numbered, but then they would be harder to remember.

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 2nd 2011, 21:52

The whole exercise is a waste of time and money.
Put their heads together ?
PUT BASTOW AND MARLOW ON NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT.

John Mifsud

Aug 2nd 2011, 22:49

so true! We residents of Fgura are still waiting to get a decent bus service! In the morning, its IMPOSSIBLE to get a bus as all 91 buses are full up before reacing Fgura! What are they waiting for to do a bus from Zabbar or Fgura??? Transport Malta is simply non existent! John Mifsud

Paul Bates

Aug 3rd 2011, 01:34

Welcome to Arriva, now youknow what we put up with in the UK

Gary Jameson

Aug 3rd 2011, 14:00

Hello Fortunato ...

My thoughts on the Arriva from observation and experience. People can add to the list ...

Infrastructure:
>Bus stops not wide/long enough to allow a bus to pull up against the kerb.
>Illegal parking of vehicles in or adjacent to bus stops.
>Illegal parking of vehicles on various roads and streets making it difficult for buses to pass.
>Many bus stops do not have timetables displayed.
>Some bus stops are positioned where vehicles are legally parked making passengers having to alight/board the bus in the road (Rabat main bus stop, Mrabat St bus stop, Balzan village bus stop).
>Some bus stop signage is badly placed in relation to the bus stop.
>Route destinations on the bus stop signage is wrong (a classic example is Msida Bus Stop 0907).
>No proper passenger accommodation at major bus stops/interchanges.
>Some bus stops/interchanges still not ready or works in progress (Qali between Attard and Rabat).
>Bus stops on the Bikirkara bypass badly positioned running the danger of a rear-end collision when the bus is stopped.
As the servicing depot for the Arriva bus fleet was turned down prior to the roll-out of the new service, where is the heavy maintenance/servicing being done.
>A lot of road infrastructure should have been modified prior to service roll-out to allow for the larger buses.
>Birkirkara is advertised as having a bus terminus whereas in reality it is just a congested car park that the normal buses find it difficult to enter and exit.
>The electronic information system located at major bus stops/interchanges does not and never has worked.
>A lot of ticket machines at bus stops not working (many are still showing the protective plastic covering).
>Valletta bus station is too small and most probably will need to be expanded into the old bus marshalling area.

Buses:
>Wrong buses on the wrong routes (ie the route branding on the side of the bus is different to the route the bus is actually working).
>Some buses (Bendy-Bus and 12 metre King Long) are too big/long for the routes worked.
>Electronic route indication not working on all buses.
>Route numbers advertised on the front windows as under the old system.
>Door opening to slow on the King Long buses.
>Ticket issuing very slow (3 passengers could have been served on the old system with respect to a single ticket issue on the new system).
>Buses already showing 'battle-damage' after one month probably due to the routes worked.
>Overloading on buses during rush-hour periods, the standing limit on the old system was 12 and this is easily exceeded.
>Buses dirty interior and exterior and do not seem to cleaned on a daily basis.
>Not all of the fleet has air-conditioning.
>The bus fleet is probably to small in number to run the advertised services to the scheduled frequencies (I believe Arriva are bringing in another 100 buses which would back this claim).
>The bendy-busses are underpowered for the hills between St Pauls and Mellieha.
>The Three Villages should be served by small Optare hybrid buses brought in specifically for this purpose; to date I have yet to see one.
>Buses have a propensity to break down bearing in mind most are brand new.

Routes:
>Buses not always following the advertised and signposted routes.
>Some "direct" services stopping at all bus stops.
>X3 express service routed through narrow roads of Balzan causing chaos when it gets stuck outside of Cafe Papillon.
>Some routes are unreasonably too long in terms of distance/time.
>Poor co-ordination of feeder and the mainline (Valletta) routes.
>Buses not keeping to advertised timetables.
>Excessive waiting at bus stops.
>Poor route planning on the part of Transport Malta.
>No comprehensive testing of routes and infrastucture seems to have been undertaken by TM/Arriva (the whole service should have been run in parallel for a while to burn down any problems).
>Night bus routes haphazard.

Drivers:
>Drivers ignoring bus stops (my examples below) -
(Route 31 - Bus 039 - 27 July - 1845 - bypassed Qroqq bus stop on way to Buggiba).
(Route 106 - Bus 078 - 2 August - 0815 - refused to stop at Balzan Urbana on way to Mater Dei).

>Driver talking to passenger (my example below) -
(Route 41 - Bus 224 - 1 August - 1915 - between Msida & Birkirakara).

>Driver talking on mobile phone (my example below) -
(Route 13 - 22 July - 2000 - Sliema sea front).

>Drivers stopping or pulling out without indicating and in some cases nearly causing an accident (Gzira/Sliema sea front).
>Drivers driving too fast.
>Not enough drivers available due to the mass walkout of ex-ATP drivers and no contingency in place.
>Drivers overloading the bus.
>Drivers having to responds to inane requests for directions and bus information from passengers.

Other:
>Website route planner very poor as does not give the location of bus stops on a street map of Malta.
>No real time information available on the website with respect to the current service situation.
>No real time information available that will allow a person to see where a bus actually is anywhere in Malta.
>No statistics or metrics with respect to daily/weekly/monthly service quality available on the website.
>Route information on the website is very poor.
>Customer Care service poor to the point of being useless.
>Arriva/TM staff present at bus stops also appear to be clueless
>No incentive to buy long term bus tickets.
>Poor PR and information management on the part of Arriva regarding the current service.
>Appalling PR and information management on the part of the Maltese government regarding the current service.

Mr Clyde Ellul

Aug 4th 2011, 02:09

@Gary Jameson
Gary, I think that's a pretty good and comprehensive list indeed.

May I add a section about saver cards:

- Saver cards do not always work when scanned on buses
- It is not yet possible (after a month) to top up a card from the website or via customer care.
- It is also not possible to use credit cards for topping up saver cards, as advertised on the website, not even at ticket machines.
- Some bus stops are not simply missing timetables, but also flags (Bombi 3) and electronic display (Msida, L-Imsida - cables attached but no display).
- Customer care personnel are polite, but rather useless. Most of the time, they are uninformed, which highlights lack of communication between Arriva departments.

I also would like to correct two points:

- There is actually a good incentive for using long-term tickets. The weekly ticket saves a traveller €1 per week for the commuter using the bus Monday to Friday, and more for those who use it on weekends too. The saver card saves even more, as you get two weeks free (over the weekly ticket price) when you buy a 90-day top-up up front.

- I believe the plastic left on some ticket machines may be intentional, for protection. However, some machines even have the cardboard box packaging on (e.g. Qroqq, Msida). And some are simply turned off (e.g. Kullegg, Msida).

May I suggest you forward this list to Arriva's customer care... not that they will do much about it.

Gary Jameson

Aug 4th 2011, 10:53

@To Clyde -

Thanks Clyde for your comments and corrections. I am sure many people who have posted here can draw up a similar list; so what I suggest is that people add their own comments. Once we have compiled a comprehensive list it can be sent to Arriva Customer Care en-mass.

The same list of problems sent in by many people would be hard for them to ignore, I think ..!

jay smith

Aug 4th 2011, 16:16

add the following to the list, maybe arriva will start ticking the list off.

screens on buses are very dirty, visibility at night is poor.
Screen wash on buses is never filled, not sure if they know how to fill them up.
Valletta driver change over, is chaotic, English officials making things worse, by trying to change bus drivers, like they do in England. It will not work here, as to many drivers are changing at the same time in Valletta.
Tell the policeman in Valletta, to stop shouting at bus drivers, "to keep moving on", officials say stop here to replace drivers, and police and tm say change drivers at that ditch, do not stop here. Who will you follow? And they all shout at you, saying they will report you. Its now getting a joke. arriva sort it out. This is also a hot spot for an accident to happen.

Buzzers on buses wrongly positioned, people keep knocking them, and buses keep stopping in every stop.
Drivers not giving enough time, to check buses during change over, jump on it and go.
bus safety check list. are mostly never collected or read, from the buses. making it possible for a bus to go on the road, when it shouldnt be on the road.

James Dewar

Aug 2nd 2011, 22:58

Only if they first remove their heads the sand where they have been firmly lodged since 03/07!!

Mrs Janet Bayes

Aug 2nd 2011, 23:09

How rude is that? You should know that capital letters on a blog like this is the same as shouting in someones ear. Its rude and obnoxious behaviour.

Philip Pryce

Aug 2nd 2011, 18:56

In many cases, the marked bus stops haven't changed since the old buses were here. Many are too short to allow the longer Arriva buses to get in to the kerb. I do agree that where they can, they should get close.

Anthony Roberts

Aug 2nd 2011, 16:35

Gosh you are so right. My wife suffers greatly each time she has to get off the bus. I thought that this new service was going to be customer friendly but alas, there is still no compassion for the disabled except the seats. How can any one get on or off the bus when they are in pain?

Mrs Janet Bayes

Aug 2nd 2011, 23:11

Maybe if there were not so many cars parked all over the place willy nilly, illegally, and often in the bus stop, that request would be easier for the drivers to comply with?

hugh jars

Aug 2nd 2011, 23:13

INDICATORS YOU HAVING A LAUGH

Mr Lawrence Fenech

Aug 2nd 2011, 15:42

A true maltese patriot. Hallina

Mr Clyde Ellul

Aug 2nd 2011, 16:57

@Joseph Galea

I agree with that. People forget very easily, the strikes and the chaos they created, even man-handling drivers who wouldn't strike off private tourist buses in front of bewildered tourists!

We complain that these buses are too big and forget how much we used to complain about the old buses having no leg space and aisles too narrow for anyone to pass!

We complain of dual tariff schemes for locals and tourists, and we forget just how many times tourists were ripped off by the old drivers because they wouldn't give them any change!

We complain that the elderly have to walk a bit longer or change buses and we forget how many times we've seen old drivers drive recklessly and stepping on the breaks and LAUGHING when some old standing man on the bus would almost fall to the floor!!...

I've seen these with my own eyes! No one would dare take it up with the driver, ghax biex itik xi xebgha hadida ma kont trid xejn! I reported them though on several occasions... but it was just my word against the driver's and nothing ever seemed to happen!

No thank you... keep the old yellow buses and their thugs astray! I want the new buses to work properly and run on time as promised, run frequently and with inappropriate routes corrected. But leave the old buses in some transport history museum where they belong.

@Lawrence Fenech

I think you have a very strange sense of patriotism, if you think you're some 'true patriot' because you want the old buses and the old thugs back! Trust me, you will be getting no medal for that! The "better the devil you know" attitude has never gotten this or any other country anywhere.

Carmel Cilia

Aug 2nd 2011, 19:11

Dear Mr. Galea then maybe there were four hundred or even if youwish five hundred bus drivers blaspheming. Today I can assure you there are one hundred thousand starting the day in the morning blaspheming and calling all kind of words to that arrogant and'kisser kull ma jmiss' of a minister you know who.

Maurice Agius

Aug 2nd 2011, 21:19

I completely agree, people are complaining because the new buses aren't puntual (which by the way is rubbish because I catch buses everyday and it's fine, just in need of some fixing here and there) but if the new ones are bad, what were the old ones!!

hugh jars

Aug 2nd 2011, 23:15

SUPERB. SHAME PEOPLE AINT ALL LIKE YOU SIR

Ruby Jenner

Aug 2nd 2011, 23:42

Agree Joseph Galea. 100%. The driver's are smart and polite. The buses are more comfortable and not belching out black fumes.

Richard Pace

Aug 2nd 2011, 13:01

The bus service from Marsacala is pretty bad at the moment. Non-Arriva are introducing the old routes again on monthly intervals but they could be dome every week or fortnightly till a satisfactory service is reached.

Ms Francesca Abela

Aug 2nd 2011, 14:53

James: there is NO direct Bus to Valletta from the Jerma and Cerviola and Zonqor areas, if you need to get to Valletta you have to take a hike to the Terminus as our so Clever Arriva with their best buddies Transport Malta decided to remove our direct bus. You can get to Airport many times a day but to Valletta forget it unless you walk all the way down to the Terminus near the main playing field. Can you imagine my elderly mother having to walk all the way from neat the ex Jerma Hotel to near Grabiel to get the bus to Valletta? Yes that's the sad reality our Transport Minister has gotten this country into!

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 2nd 2011, 16:19

James, Don't let this Arriva debacle spoil your trip to Malta.
Supreme Travel offer a very good daily tour round the island and throw in a free mini boat trip as well !
It's called Maltasightseeing Hop on Hop off. Over 40 stops round the island and Gozo.

www.maltasightseeing.com

Hope this helps

Jamie Iain Genovese

Aug 3rd 2011, 00:06

But really and truly, you'll probably be fine. I've been using them since about a week after they started and haven't had problems. I buy a day ticket (1.50) and travel to my heart's content. Right now, drivers not turning up to work seems to stir havoc, but that's something that I can't blame Arriva for.

Oh and, they're air conditioned and more spacious. Less of my awkwardly rubbing against people after a long day of God-knows-what. :)

cettina portelli

Aug 2nd 2011, 19:29

yes, mr. dewar, i agree completely about what you said regarding the old buses.....with all their faults....THEY WERE DEPENDABLE. what we have now from ARRIVA is DEPLORABLE

James Dewar

Aug 1st 2011, 20:39

Emanuel, Indeed we do! Evidence of ANY leadership has so far been conspicuously absent from these proceedings! As a start even some "mediocre" leadership may help to get things moving !

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 1st 2011, 21:48

Simple, Emanuel, FIRE BASTOW AND MARLOW NOW, Arriva need to get a serious grip on this situation and bring in the top guys from Deuctshe Bahn before it's out of control. It may be to late ,jokes are over, so is Bastows honeymoon period!

John Mifsud

Aug 3rd 2011, 11:10

well done Mr Farrugia for your comments! It seems that Transport Malta never reads these comments, or simple, dont care what the passengers want! We residents of Fgura are in urgent need of a bus departing from Zabbar or Fgura in the early morning trips, as bus 91 ALWAYS arrive full up and no one can arrive to work on time! Is this what we were hoping for? When will our needs be heard? Do we have to wait till September 11 to be getting a good service?? Honestly, i think it will take much longer! John Mifsud

Richard Pace

Aug 1st 2011, 17:56

I agree with you . DUMP ARRIVA AND THOSE WHO BROUGHT THEM HERE>

Mr Clyde Ellul

Aug 1st 2011, 17:20

@Richard Pace

Excuse me if I think that this is yet another uninformed comment!

When Arriva & TM announced the 27 route changes, they made it clear that the changes would come along in four phases. Quoting from the Times article about the network changes announcement:

Quote
The changes will be implemented over four months, with the first taking place on July 31. They will be staggered to come into effect on September 4, October 2 and October 30.
Unquote

The full article is on this page:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110723/local/Arriva-makes-27-route-changes.376921

The official statement, which states the same thing, can be found on Arriva's own website at:
http://www.arriva.com.mt/news-details?id=84&l=1

Assuming you're comparing old routes with new ones, route 91 was roughly equivalent to route 63 and used to run every 30 minutes, not 15; I know because I rode it every day to work from Qormi. As for old route 45, I think it did run every 15 mins, but whereas Cirkewwa used to only be served by route 45 and 645 (which ran much less frequently and less regularly), now it is being served by route 11, 41 and X1.

Bernard Dulcet

Aug 1st 2011, 18:39

What a service!!! I wait for four months!!! It only takes few days getting late to work until you get your first warning and eventually fired.

Ms Francesca Abela

Aug 2nd 2011, 00:46

Heaven help us if it takes another month or two just to get a simple extension of the route for Marsascala Bus no 91!! All it involves is going in one street and out of another and hey presto a lot of complaints will be solved. It is totally unbelieveable this mess created with the change of routes without consulting anyone and then taking forever to change them back. Mamma Mia!!

John Mifsud

Aug 3rd 2011, 10:56

But what aboout bus 91 from Marsascala? It hardly ever picks up passengers from Fgura on the first morning trips, thus leaving many people stranded! Is that the service we expected from Arriva? Cant Transport Malta realise that if a bus departs from Zabbar or Fgura will solve the problem of many workers arriving late for work? Are'nt 4 WEEKS enough to realise this??? Wake up Transport Malta! Wake up!! John Mifsud

James Dewar

Aug 1st 2011, 20:44

Ruby, I eagerly await confirmation from someone regarding your query. Fascinating and a new dimension to the ongoing saga. Could it be Keith Bastow out driving as a last resort attempt to resolve the ongoing issues before his enforced early retirement?

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 1st 2011, 22:03

Ruby, wish I could help, my wife and I sit outside a cafe most mornings, think we saw an X23 going through St Pauls once but maybe he was lost as well. Seen a few getting jammed up here tho'
Good Luck

Mr Dave Smith

Aug 2nd 2011, 13:31

James,
Whilst I assume we both empathise with Rubys' plight the question arises is Bastow even qualified to drive a bus?
Never mind put a nut in a monkeys mouth, and by all reports Arriva are lacking semi-skilled and/ or skilled technicians to assist them on the later.

Mario Desira

Aug 2nd 2011, 14:13

With 2012 less than one year away you may have possibly without knowing crossed to another dimension, a parallell earth, where Arriva seems to be having better luck! However if you are back to this dimension, I.m afraid the service here is still dismal and awiaiting normality :) Welcome back anyway!

Stephanie Scerri

Aug 2nd 2011, 16:39

I too have looked up the time table of the X23 bus, after seeing it at Golden Bay and Qawra terminus on several occasions. However, I did not manage to find any info on the website. I just assumed that it must be replacing the old 652 bus.

After my experience with Arriva customer care regarding another issue, I did not bother to call them for further info as they seem to have a set of generic answers ready which they just read out to you, without answering your questions.

Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze

Aug 5th 2011, 13:04

Because Arriva clearly don't give two hoots about Marsaskala residents, that's why!

Richard Pace

Aug 1st 2011, 18:06

I agree with you. The buses could have been re-engineed and air-conditioned with newly upholstered seats.

hugh jars

Aug 1st 2011, 19:30

try living here and using those old crap heaps. tourists make me sick, here for 2 weeks and saying how it should be run, stay away!!!!!!!!

Philip Pryce

Aug 1st 2011, 21:45

@ Hugh Jars. So you want the tourists to stay away do you? They were always taking photos of them. They had a certain 'charm' and unique character. I really welcome the comfortable air conditioned new buses and will use them regularly (if they actually turned up!) but I really can't understand why the old buses have completely disappeared. Where have they gone? How can you hide so many old buses? Why couldn't they keep some of the better-maintained ones for tourist purposes?

hugh jars

Aug 1st 2011, 19:30

BORING!!!!!!!!!!

John Mifsud

Aug 3rd 2011, 15:34

the same happens to me! Used to get a bus from Fgura at 5,35 am and then a bus from Bombi and reach work by 6 20am, Now, with the new famous Arriva service, i arrive at 7am, 30 minutes late for work! My, what a shoddy service!! Thanks Transport Malta for making our journey a happy one as the bus ticket says!! Well done!! John Mifsud

Timothy Cachia

Aug 1st 2011, 07:00

This is pretty normal from what i heard. Buses should wait and leave at the appointed time... not cause they arrived early, they can leave early to go feast on some pastizzi and beer.

hugh jars

Aug 1st 2011, 19:31

BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rachel Mangion

Jul 31st 2011, 18:35

Oh...I know what you mean :)

James Dewar

Jul 31st 2011, 19:04

Bullseye! But I'm sure that the ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY drivers "checked out" some weeks ago!! Surely we can't now be set to lose the remainder!

hugh jars

Aug 1st 2011, 19:36

BORING!!!!!!

Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze

Aug 1st 2011, 11:47

And so is the Marsaskala route passing through Triq il-Qaliet which Arriva promised but failed to deliver! What a disgrace!

hugh jars

Aug 1st 2011, 19:36

NON EXISTENT!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 31st 2011, 16:08

Water boarding ,James, Water boarding !

Anthony Borg

Jul 31st 2011, 11:39

@ James Dewar Yesterday, 21:55

Yes, definitely James, but having a time-table of sorts (+ 10 minutes or so at the most – not hours!) should enable all of us to arrive somewhat on time for work and other daily appointments.
Since Arriva started operations, I would be lucky indeed to make one errand the whole morning!

Mr Lawrence Fenech

Jul 31st 2011, 10:30

@Albert
Sa kemm jibqa hemm is-sur Austin li waqa fil-muta hekk jibqghu l-affarijiet buzzullotti. Mr. 38% baqa' hemm allavolja ghaddiedt il-ligi tad-divorzju ghax paga doppja ghal partime job ghogbithu.

Doris Farrugia

Aug 1st 2011, 21:45

I think Tardiva or retardiva should be considered as well.Tardiva because everywhere one goes is always late or has to go back home for the car;retardiva is because the inspectors are reading the time on the clock the wrong way so the bus is never on time or does not show at all.We Gudja residents are experiencing both!!!!

Elizabeth Hair

Aug 3rd 2011, 14:07

this is in reply to Mr John Mifsuds comments, thanks for that I live in Fgura and to get to work in time for my 8am start I have to be at the bus stop at 6am, this has been since the new buses started and Im exhausted, but the buses always go by full and once you do catch one they already stopped using the airconditioning !!!!!!
Where is the supposed improvement please

Mrs Janet Bayes

Jul 30th 2011, 17:38

Is that not why buses are fitted with emergency exits? Hard to believe that 100 passengers and a driver were just stuck on the bus.

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 30th 2011, 19:04

SO ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT ARRIVA BUSES HAVE NO MANUALLY ACTUATED EMERGENCY EXITS NOW??? GET OUT OF HERE BASTOW.

Anthony Borg

Jul 30th 2011, 23:07

@ Mrs Janet Bayes: "...Hard to believe that 100 passengers and a driver were just stuck on the bus".

@ Mr Albert Pace: Mr. Pace, could you please inform your friend to verify this unpleasant incident as Mrs Janet Bayes seems so eager to jump in to the rescue of "everything Arriva".

Mrs Janet Bayes

Jul 31st 2011, 14:12

@ Anthony Borg - - - I KNOW that there are safety regulations and emergency exits on these buses. I KNOW there are hammers to break the windows. Therefore it is hard to believe that particular story. I am not defending Arriva - - merely stating an opinion based on facts.

Mrs Janet Bayes

Jul 31st 2011, 14:31

@Anthony BorgFrederick Gauci
Today, 09:35
Sorry dave Smith.

Have you ever been on an Arriva Bus lately???
They are all fitted with with the hammers and safety belt cutters.
If the accident really happened they just panicced and no-one used his common sense to open the doors manually.
The kinglongs have a manual turning knob on each door and the bendies as well, on each door it has an emergency turning knob and it is well visible.
Mr Dave Smith
Today, 09:48
Thanks Frederick for the Info.
Thought so,have have my doubts about his one as well.
To answer your question NO, they don't stop, however have kept my account wth Hertz open !

jay smith

Aug 1st 2011, 03:55

albert pace, buses doors are operated by air, and not electrics. doors can be opened anytime, even if the bus has no battery on it. if it is fault with the air tanks, than the doors can be pulled or pushed open. the question is why you lie and stirr things up, maybe you or a relative of yours is one of the old dodgy bus drivers.

Bernard Dulcet

Aug 1st 2011, 18:57

I would for sure use that window hammer breaker which I often get tempted but end up hesitating.

James Dewar

Jul 30th 2011, 18:45

Dave, "Probably" is the answer to both questions!

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 30th 2011, 21:20

Cheers James, Just spoken to a transport inspector in the UK, frequent visitor to Malta,also reports diectly to VOSA. The pneumatic doors have a 3 way fail to open safety valve above the doors. Don't know what happend to Albert's mate above? But can only confirm had my wife and self been on the bus within 60 seconds Arriva would have requied a reliable glazier !
Oh and they should also provide tungsten tipped widow hammers and seat belt cutters??????

Frederick Gauci

Jul 31st 2011, 09:35

Sorry dave Smith.

Have you ever been on an Arriva Bus lately???
They are all fitted with with the hammers and safety belt cutters.
If the accident really happened they just panicced and no-one used his common sense to open the doors manually.
The kinglongs have a manual turning knob on each door and the bendies as well, on each door it has an emergency turning knob and it is well visible.

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 31st 2011, 09:48

Thanks Frederick for the Info.
Thought so,have have my doubts about his one as well.
To answer your question NO, they don't stop, however have kept my account wth Hertz open !

James Dewar

Jul 30th 2011, 19:53

Francesca, You ask the question "Do you know that" of Messrs Gatt and Bastow. Perhaps more appropriately the question to them should be "Do you CARE that".

Methinks that their honest answer to that question (if it were to be forthcoming) would be in the negative!

Bernard Dulcet

Aug 1st 2011, 19:06

Of course he does not know!!!!!! I bet you he never took a bus in his entire life since have resources.

Mr Manuel Mangani

Jul 29th 2011, 23:31

Not quite, in my experience. There are good days and bad days.Sometimes buses pass with frequent regularity; after 10.00am waiting times are often intolerably long. The day before yesterday I spent hour in the late morning at Bombi waiting for a Rabat bus. Last Friday (22nd July) in the evening I wasted another hour trying to get to Floriana from the upper part of Hamrun - a route serviced almost exclusively by the Rabat buses.

James Camilleri

Jul 30th 2011, 23:54

Don't agree. For those who live along Notabile Road (Attard/Balzan), Mriehel, Fleur de Lys and Sta. Venera and Hamrun it is sometimes impossible to baord these buses and they are the only ones which we can make use of. Service still hopeless.

Peter Spiteri

Jul 29th 2011, 12:41

I agree completely

Mrs Janet Bayes

Jul 29th 2011, 13:22

So Robert - - - can you please explain why we need yet another blessed card to carry around? Why are you talking about one standard charge and then higher charges for non maltese ID. Why do the Maltese people think they are entitled to travel for less money than others? Maybe the Maltese want to pay more to travel on other modes of transport in other countries when they go on holiday?
As for the ticket system - - its used the world over, and is only major problem here because of the 2 tier ticket charge system.
If the Maltese people cannot afford the bus fare, they should walk or buy a bike, or use one of their many garaged cars.
If this system of 2 tier fares was used for something like air travel there would be anarchy. Imagine Easy Jet or Ryan Air charging double to the Maltese to travel on the plane?

John Sant

Jul 29th 2011, 17:11

such a system already exists. check your info before you comment

Wilfred Camilleri

Jul 29th 2011, 20:57

The two-tiered ticketing system, one for ID holders and another for non-ID holders is stupid, discriminatory, and bogus! Whoever came up with the idea should be made to stand at a ticketing machine every day, winter and summer, and explain to tourists and non-residents who come to Malta to spend their hard-earned money why it is they have to pay extra. And it doesn't matter if the service is subsidized. When I visit another country with subsidized public transit I'm never asked for an ID card!

Mr Rene Brincat

Jul 30th 2011, 15:38

To all those who are against the two tier system.

No one is paying extra. The goverment is just paying the difference obo Residents of Malta (of any Nationality they may happen to be) through the annual subsidy that was agreed with Arriva.

What's wrong with the government giving something back to the taxpayer? Here the intention is to get more residents on buses so reducing pollution and traffic congestion.

And to all tourists and visitors, who are always very welcome to visit us. Its still reasonably cheap to travel in Malta, in brand new, airconditioned buses and having a comprehensive route network. As an example, the service to / from the airport is now much more frequent and covers all the tourists hot spots.

Just compare to what you have at home.

J Gustafsson

Jul 30th 2011, 18:34

Mr Brincat (and others in favor of a two tier system),

I think all of us visiting Malta often are comparing the system to what we have at home.

What we for sure do not have, is a system where tourists are charged twice the amount compared to local residents. This looks really bad, and understandably raises questions from passengers that the Arriva & Transport Malta staff have to answer. It creates a feeling of being fooled and it is not a good idea to give that feeling to tourists. Yes, the rate is not too high, but this is not the point at all.

And for those who don't seem to know, ALL public transport EVERYWHERE is subsidised by taxpayers in some way. This is not something out of the ordinary and in no way an excuse to charge tourists more. Is a rental car on the streets better than a car owned by a maltese? Is the purpose not to reduce traffic?

James Dewar

Jul 29th 2011, 13:54

Janet, It's Malta, not Utopia!! If Only !

Anthony Borg

Jul 29th 2011, 14:35

@ Mrs Janet Bayes
Pity you are not in PR – Arriva could do with your services

1. Quote: I never read any complaints about the old service of course.
(Shall I send you newspapers clippings about complaints over the years regarding the ATP Bus System).
You must have taken up residence here on the 3rd July or after.

2. Quote: Can anyone tell me how you can rectify this situation?
(We are commuters not route planners – but we have been giving our various feedback through this media since day one of operations.

3. Quote: Implement all this OVERNIGHT - - - then no one will need to be complaining any more will they?
Really? You seem the only one on the whole Island not complaining. Take a trip to Qawra and hear the tourists complaining (and some of them swearing too – who can blame them?)
Arriva have managed to scuttle their holiday with this “state of the art” new system.

Arriva UK should have known better given their experience and expertise in the field.
Arriva UK should have never accepted the former bus drivers given their reputation (have you never heard about that too?)
Arriva UK should have made contingencies for such matters before they rushed to tender their services.

Mrs Janet Bayes

Jul 29th 2011, 20:42

@ Anthony Borg - - - - I would know your nationality despite your name my dear. You have a Maltese sense of humour and you are unable to read sarcasm.

Anthony Borg

Jul 29th 2011, 20:46

@Mrs.Janet Bayes

So it's not the Maltese alone who are complaining (or "moaning" according to you)

This comment was taken from:
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110729/letters/Hoping-that-Arriva-is-listening-and-taking-notes-2-.377791
Krisztina Madarász

Today, 10:38

Is your comment serious? Have you heard about that Arriva should provide a service for people that is called TRANSPORTATION ?? If Arriva would work properly people would not complain at all...If people takes a bottle of water still they have to wait for the bus (as I have to wait one hour at least every day).


Krisztina Madarasz

Anthony Borg

Jul 30th 2011, 08:19

@ Janet Bayes

Oh I can detect sarcasm “qalbi” – your “ofcourse” is very coarse, to say the least! But at least I can read English – not perfectly I must admit, but enough to detect your coarse sarcasm.

Sorry to disappoint you “qalbi” – but I am Maltese to the core.
You have been accusing the Maltese as being “moaners” – well you take the trophy “qalbi” because you seem to have an excuse for every Arriva flop.

I do not have a chip on Arriva: it’s just that they DID NOT deliver, despite the many promises and excuses.
I have no way of verifying this, but the amount of criticism that this foreign company drew for its mess must by far surpasses the complaints we had of the former ATP – at least they arrived on time. That’s the whole point - arriving on time, period.

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 29th 2011, 13:19

No need for Arriva to answer that; your comment is no news. They and TM have been saying since day 1 that while 170 buses are brand new, about 80 will be second-hand / refurbished buses, either from the old network or from the UK. The oldest buses - according to Arriva themselves - are about 6 years old, which would make the bus you mentioned adequate. All second-hand buses would be upgraded to contractual specifications if necessary. I think I actually rode on this very bus (or a very similar mercedes one), and they are in very good condition.

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 29th 2011, 15:27

@ Clyde. Thank You just filled in the gaps, IE the London Boris busses which were a failure when new.
Respects

Carmel Cilia

Jul 29th 2011, 17:34

Dan mhux forma ta sussidju, qed nirreferi ghal park and ride. B'min irid jithaq Gatt. Haga ohra hu fatt li il-gvern ghamel min kollox biex joqtol lit-trasport li kelna. Bhal ma ghamel dejjem l-ewwel ipingi f'dawl ikrah mal poplu xi haga li jrid joqtol u jghati lil-privat imbad igib skuza u jrid il-grazzi talli jkun irmija(jekk ma jkunx hemm min baxx baxx dahhal xi commission) u ghaddija lil barranin.
Veru kaz ta pajjis mormi u mirfus mis saqajn.

Adrian Pavia

Jul 29th 2011, 09:19

Tezagerax! mess li kien hem qabel! m'humiex eccezzjonali imma mhux mess!!

Marco Farrugia

Jul 29th 2011, 13:42

agreed with Mr Fenech....

Mr Pavia - you living in Mars?

James Camilleri

Jul 31st 2011, 00:00

No probably Mr Pavia just came back from Timbuctoo.

Carmel Cilia

Jul 29th 2011, 06:30

If you were a Mellieha resident you would'nt have been so happy. After leaving Mellieha the 11 bus goes through St. Pauls Bay then to the Bugibba terminus then it takes you round Qawra on to the coast road visiting Pembroke Swieqi Paceville St Julian Sliema Gzira Msida and on to Valletta. By the time you arrive there one would have lost all the prospect of going on for a hard days work.
I expect Mr. Delia would be given a generous Bonus this year: He deserves it he has become DeliaP.N.

A Cordina

Jul 29th 2011, 07:37

I believe you meant Delia! ...even his name we are forgetting!

Richard Pace

Jul 30th 2011, 10:58

Ops yes I meant Emanuel Delia, standing for the election without any hope of getting any commuter votes!

James Dewar

Jul 28th 2011, 14:19

Eh ?

John Mifsud

Jul 28th 2011, 18:25

am i reading well???? John Mifsud

Carmel Cilia

Jul 28th 2011, 18:44

You must have been living of late in a third world country if you are just happy with an air conditioner. Going to work in the morning now means getting up one and a half hours earlier because you never know the time the bus would deliver. Going to work today means having to face your employer every morning and trying to justify yourself for being late. Ah I shudder to think what would have been the outcome if there was the opposition in government. Castilja would have been like a slave market with thousands chained to the iron railings there. How time change.

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 28th 2011, 19:26

Ray stick to Class A.

Anthony Borg

Jul 28th 2011, 21:22

@ Ray Mangan "Grumble Grumble Grumble - That is all I hear about the Arriva bus service".

931 comments (minus 1) should tell you something Mr. Mangan.

By the way, are you in Malta? Just wondering - perhaps you missed the bus and meant some other country..

hugh jars

Jul 28th 2011, 22:36

dont think so.dont want those crap heaps back with the silver backs trying to drive them!!!!!!

Anthony Borg

Jul 29th 2011, 15:03

Neither do I Mr. Jars - but we have no option - at least those "crap heaps" arrived on time, year in year out.

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 28th 2011, 13:42

That's if you could find Gatt ?????????

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 28th 2011, 12:43

These genuine drivers are stressed to the hilt. Hardly think a 3 min ciggy break gonna make any difference.
I would have joined him.

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 27th 2011, 18:41

Anthony, never actually boarded a bus today. We frequently used the previous service to Sliema.
The infrequent buses observed today were filthy, exhibited extensive panal damage, overcrowded, not stopping and had passangers still standing clutching handrails beside the driver.
Any more questions ? LOL

Anthony Borg

Jul 27th 2011, 21:58

No, not really Dave, I think you put me off for a whole week!
- -
For any Arriva official reading these comments:
"Why are the new, glossy Arriva buses so dirty? Are you shooting yourselves in the foot?"
"Don't you have staff to hose down the buses as they come in to roost for the night?"
For goodness sake, this can't be the fault of the defaulting drivers too! (Although I will not be surprised if they are coming in under the stealth of darkness and dirtying your buses :-)

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John Mifsud

Jul 27th 2011, 22:07

still a long way to go! Bus no 91 still arrives full up at Fgura! Are we asking too much to have a bus leaving Zabbar at 5 30am like in the past?? I'm sure that most workers are arriving late for work! How long our bosses are gonna tolerate this? Wake up Transport Malta! Dont you think that 4 weeks are too long to realise that Fgura residents are going tru hell to board a bus in the morning? ACTION PLEASE< AND QUICK! John Mifsud

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 28th 2011, 16:13

Oh Anthony, forgot to menion that the rear index number plate had fallen off one a well!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 27th 2011, 18:04

Clearly Mr. Cassar, you don't use the bus very often.

When we had the old buses, we used to complain that they were too small, that they had aisles that were too narrow, and that they had very little leg space.

The old buses were too old to restore or equip with anything, let alone air conditioning. The only thing they had "air-conditioning ready", were the windows, many of which you wouldn't manage to open with a crowbar.

We also used to complain when they would pass full and not stop on stages, or when the bus would not come at all. Only then, it was taken for granted, and no one would write on the paper about it.

We may have lost a cultural icon, but regular bus users like me are certainly not missing the old buses. Neither am I missing the old routes, for that matter, even though many people seem to disagree on that one, and they have every right to do so of course. What I want now is a more regular and frequent service. It's better than the first week, but we're not quite there yet. Looks like it's going to have to take a few months...

Mr M Farrugia

Jul 27th 2011, 11:44

Minbarra il-kummenti dwqar il-vjaggia kif gew imfassal ghal Arriva, li hafna minnhom mhux vijabbli u hemm bzonn li isir tibdil fuqhom hemm problema kardinali u kbira hafna li kulhadd qed jaghmel bhax-xadina u jghatti ghajnejh dwara. Qed nirreferi ghad-disastru li hawn fit-toroq taghna li jikkaguna id-dewmin. Ezempji. Tal-Gas jiqaf f'nofs triq u kulhadd jistenna, L_istass jaghmel l-iscammell taz-zibel. Hemm dawk ity-truckijiet li ikollhom il-merkanzija jew hadt ta prodotti. dawn jahsbu li jistaw jiqfu fin-nofs, jaghmlu double parking ghax qed ihottu. Hemm kranijiet li jahdmu fuq progetti minghajr wardens, hemm dawk li fil-qilla tat-trasport ikunu jizbaw il-linji f'art, jew jaqtaw is-sigar, dawk li jipparkjaw fuq bus lanes, u mitt oggett iehor. dawn jikkaguynaw tewmin esagerat fit-toroq bil-karozzi tal-linja jistennew fil-quees twal. Jekk il-gvern mhux se jipprova jsolvi din il-problema tal-linja se jibqa ikollhom il-problema mod specjali fil-hin. Tajjeb li isiru il-bus lanes fit-toroq arterjali imma il-problema hija fit-toroq principlai tal-blioet taghna bhal Hamrun,. Birkirkara, san Pawl Tas-Sliema u mitt post iehor. Il-wardens lejn dawn iridu jibdew iharsu u jagfhtu it-tickets u mhux lejn karozzi privati biss li sidhom ma ikunx hemm. Hemm bzonn aktar serjeta mill-Wardens fejn jidhol il-heavy transport. Jekk ma jkunx hemm management tajjeb tat-toroq taghna ma jistax ikollna servizz tajjeb u nigu l-istess kif konna bid-differentza li hawn karozzi moderni.

John Mifsud

Jul 27th 2011, 13:57

il veru andek ragun siehbi! Vera weghda trid tamel biex tirkeb mil Fgura! Meta bus no 91 tasal Haz-Zabbar tintela kollha u povri ahna in-nies tal Fgura! Possibbli mandomx bus ohra li tista titlaq mill mina ta Hompesch halli tghabbi lil dawk kollha fuq l-istages?? Fejnhi Transport Malta? Ul Kunsill tal Fgura possibbli ma jafx xinhu jigri?? Mela kulhadd 'ala l-mouse' f'dan il-pajjiz?? John Mifsud

A Saliba

Jul 30th 2011, 12:39

Sewwa qed tghid. Ahna ta' Haz-Zabbar kellna erba' karozzi 17, 18,19,21 u ohra 20 tghaddi mill bypass ta' m'scala. Issa sfortunatament wahda biss in-91 ta' M'scala u hemm stage Haz-Zabbar fi triq il-kunvent li din taddi minn hemm imma ma twaqqafx . Tghidx x'mixja ikollna nimxu fix-xemx jekk niefqu fl-istage ta' qablu jew ta warajh. Dawn qeghdin il-boghod minn xulxin.

Dwar is-Saver Card naqbel mija fil-mija mieghek. It-time window qeghda hemm ghal gwadann biex idahhlu aktar flus u mhux biex jiffrankaw il-passiggieri. Din dahka fil-wicc.

Jien tqallajt nirraporta dwar l-istage li nehhew minn Lawrenz Bus Stop Zabbar fejn in-91 ma tieqafx. Xbajt ukoll ninqela nistenna u nimxi fix-xemx. Jien qed inhoss li l-ilmenti tan-nies qeghdin jaqaw fuq widnejn torox. Arriva u Transport Malta mid-dehra se jdumu jiddiskutu.!!

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 27th 2011, 15:57

Joseph. Resposible is NOT in Mr Bastow's vocabulary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony Borg

Jul 26th 2011, 23:08

Yes, Dave, Mr.Churchill would have been proud of that quote.
And yet, the commuter is left stranded, day after day, week after week, with promises that it's going to get better...

Anthony Borg

Jul 26th 2011, 23:09

Yes, Dave, Mr.Churchill would have been proud of that quote.
And yet, the commuter is left stranded, day after day, week after week, with promises that it's going to get better...
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Mr Dave Smith

Jul 27th 2011, 15:34

Anthony, I just cannot understand it ! Am having to use taxis! Bastow must be a tottally protected species!

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 27th 2011, 09:27

No surprises there A Saliba, in Triq is Salini in Marsascala, there are no less than 4 Bus stops including ones with the New glass topped shelters which are now no longer used by Arriva as they decided to remove the Bus 91 from the LARGEST residential area in the locality. So there are Bus stops where the bus never passes, incredible but true in this country! The other day tourists were waiting for the Bus on the one near the Jerma Hotel till someone told them the Bus to Valletta is no longer passing from that area, so they had to enjoy a 25 minute walk along the Salini Promenade to get to the Terminus near Grabiel. Truly progress. One wonders when the amendment to the 91 route as announced recently will actually start?

A Caruana

Jul 28th 2011, 00:53

Ms Abela,

I saw lots of Tourists also waiting near the Cerviola Hotel at the Grigal Bus stop just near the Happypaws charity shop, the English people at the shop told them they have to walk to the terminus to get to Valletta on bus no 91, they were complaining to anyone who was listening that they have been coming to Malta for the past 10 years and never had they these problems with the buses. It is worthy to note that these tourists were in their late sixties and certainly not relishing a long 20 minute walk in the sun to get to the terminus. when is no 91 going to start passing from Triq Il Qaliet? -When summer is over and the tourists have flown back home never to return to Malta.

Gianfrancesco Buttigieg

Jul 26th 2011, 16:10

Very good ideas but forget it Alessandro. Maltese people will never interchange anywhere... its a cultural thing.

cettina portelli

Jul 26th 2011, 18:54

yes, i was at the birgu market this morning too... i live in bormla so i didnt have to travel to get there.....it was so sad it see it so empty! but with the disgraceful bus service the three cities have to put up with, do you blame people for not turning up?

Ms G Portelli

Jul 27th 2011, 16:05

@ Gianfrancesco Buttigieg

Really what do you think commuters going to the South (eg. Marsa, Fgura, Zabbar, Three cities etc ) and those going to the North ( Sliema Srt. JUlians, Tal-Qroqq, Mellieha etc ) did at either Blata l-Bajda / Bombi for the last 4 decades respectively.? Gosh did you really think that interchanges are a Transport Authority/Arriva new fangled concept ??? Interchanges were already part of the culture.

John Mifsud

Jul 26th 2011, 14:25

you must be joking!! They had 3 whoie weeks to settle down! If you happen to be welll served in your area(unless you go by car yourself), it doesnt mean that other localities are on working on RUBINI!! We residents of Fgura are being taken for a ride! We.re in the 4th week of Arriva service, and im stlll arriving late for work! Is this what Transport Malta wants for us passengers?? No, we cant wait till September to see an imrovement - we demand it NOW!! John Mifsud

cettina portelli

Jul 27th 2011, 18:45

and im STILL taking my son to and from work in the car from bormla whereas before he ALWAYS used the excellently timed direct bus route from the 3cities to valetta!!! plus. we have to leave home in the car by 0610 to try to avoid the mad rush hour at marsa because so many people are using their cars instead of the buses to get to work ON TIME!!!! more pollution, missed appointments, wages docked due to late arriving, threats of losing your job.....ARRIVA, SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT!!!

hugh jars

Jul 25th 2011, 23:56

NO, JUST MORE POLITE AND BETTER DRIVERS THANTHE MALTESE GORILLAS, GET IN THE REAL WORLD

Irene Forster

Jul 28th 2011, 15:25

To Mr. Jars,

This is quite a change of tune from your reply to my justified comment i.e. "stop complaining, you are not in UK now. If you dnt like it go the other way!!!!" Please read my reply (further down the line) to that.

If you are so keen to pass free comments,I suggest that you had better practice what you preach and maybe get on a plane back to the UK yourself if our drivers are such gorillas (i.e. if you are English after all).

Regards

Irene Forster

Janice Ancilleri

Jul 25th 2011, 23:25

Ma nahsibx ta'. It-triq dizastruza hemm u konna hadna r-ruh meta sirna nafu li permezz tal-Arriva t-toroq qed jitrangaw, imma kienet falza stikka ghal dik it-triq ghax mid-dehra ser tibqa' f'dak l-istat ghal dejjem! Kemm dik it-triq u kemm triq ohra f'St. Peters, li minnha kienet tghaddi t-21. It-tnejn dizastruzi u t-tnejn li huma m'hux qed jghaddu tal-linji minnhom .. u hafna nies inqatalhom is-servizz ta' tal-linja. Hafna anzjani jridu jimxu mixjiet twal issa biex jaqbdu tal-linja. Kemm minn hdejn il-knisja tal-kapuccini u kemm minn gewwa St. Peters, ghax lanqas tal-linja wahda mhi tghaddi minn hawn gew! Arukaza!

cettina portelli

Jul 27th 2011, 18:57

some drivers are relying on the passengers to direct them through the routes coz they have no idea where to go!
and if transport malta ran a whelk stall, we would all be in for food poisoning!!!!
we had a brilliant bus service in the 3cities.... the lisla bus would go via fgura, easing congestion there and saving the people of the 3cites from taking 2buses, we had a direct route to marsascala and back, where we could stop off at zabbar and pick up a bus to xghajra from there, a bus to take us to mater dei, plus 4buses an hour departing to valetta and back.kalkara was served with 2buses an hour and the people living near de la salle college and hawli estate had 2buses an hour to go to valetta and back...NOW THEY HAVE TO TAKE 2BUSES JUST TO GET TO VALETTA. no wonder we used the buses so frequently, who wouldnt?

AND NOW IT HAS ALL GONE, GONE, GONE....

hugh jars

Jul 26th 2011, 18:57

stop complaining, you are not in UK now. If you dnt like it go the other way!!!!

Irene Forster

Jul 28th 2011, 12:23

Dear Mr Jars,

Just for your information, I was born and bred in Malta from a Maltese family and have always lived in Malta and I certainly do not need, someone with a surname like Jars, telling me what to do, even if I were English. I am married to an Englishman, so please do not make any comments before knowing the facts. I am a frequent bus user as I do not drive and my request was very legitimate.

Yes I have every right to complain if after a long awaited reform, (of which I was eagerly waiting for and agreed with), things are not better but worse. I just hope that some of the routes are changed to suit the consumer as after all, we are the ones who have to be satisfied, or else as you so rightly put it, "if you dnt like it go the other way", and that is exactly what I am doing until the routes are change.

Thank you

Irene Forster

cettina portelli

Jul 26th 2011, 19:01

and in the meantime, while we are WAITING,and WAITING, and WAITING... we are late for work, hospital appts, being stranded on bus stops in the hot sun for hours on end, etc.etc.etc.????

cettina portelli

Jul 27th 2011, 19:03

why is arriva not responsable for this mess?? a PROFESSIONAL and REPUTABLE company would have tried out the routes and timings for themselves by doing trial runs and made amendments accordingly BEFORE putting their buses on the road! transport malta gave them the routes, it was up to them to see if they worked!!!

John Mifsud

Jul 24th 2011, 18:01

are you serious Maria? You must be from Marsascala! What about us residents of Fgura??? Try getting a bus for work in the morning and you will rethink what you wrote! John Mifsud

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 25th 2011, 12:46

Is Bus 91 going past from Salini and Qaliet or not yet?? Because if no then i fail to see why you are soo happy with Bus no 91 Ms Grech!!

Ray Gatt

Jul 24th 2011, 18:01

It is the Maltese from TM who drew up the routes.

Ramon Mangion

Jul 24th 2011, 18:13

Erm Mr Fenech the routs were designed by TM not by Arriva

Sacha Sammut

Jul 24th 2011, 19:17

The minister or the company should have at least reviewed the routes. Even an idiot would realise that they are terrible. They should have stuck to the old routes in the beginning so that the change would not be that big and than in time change some of them as they see fit

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 24th 2011, 15:56

Dear Mr Darmanin,

You should be informed that while on the old bus system we actually had around 500 buses, compared to the 270 we have now, they ran on alternate days, while these ones run every day. This means that with Arriva, we have roughly the same number of buses on the road each day as with the old system. Therefore your argument about the number of buses does not hold.

I do agree with you that some of the routes are too long, and hopefully they should be changed soon. However, once the service becomes more regular and frequent, trying to find the optimal route to your destination and changing buses at interchanges will help a lot, and I don't think the routes are really the main issue here. My experience of the service so far tells me, that the main issue is frequency, the ridiculous amount of time being spent on bus stops, and a large section of the bus folk, especially the 40+, who strongly resist change.

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 24th 2011, 18:16

That would be logical! If they're synchronising the route in Malta to Cirkewwa with the ferry, they should do the same on the other end!! Common sense!

A Cordina

Jul 25th 2011, 06:08

...sure! common sense!

Alessandro Bruno

Jul 24th 2011, 17:38

that would be great, this route should bypass Valletta and provide fast link between north and south.
By the way, 3 cities are badly under connected.

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 24th 2011, 15:57

Oh what a pain!

James Dewar

Jul 23rd 2011, 19:32

Carmel, Interesting observations. Some may well be surprised to hear that there was an efficient well organised and supervised public transport service operating as far back as 50 years ago. I don't think Malta is alone in seeing standards fall with amalgamations and centralisation in public transport. I do think the reason is that accountants, only interested in the profit / loss "bottom line", are now in the "driving seat" and customer service is secondary. Bad mistake and evidence of that is clear from the current situation.

jay smith

Jul 25th 2011, 12:01

You must be a typical Maltese driver than. How can you nearly crash, by overtaking a bus driving 5mph as you say?
Tips of how to overtake a bus.
1) Do not overtakeif there a solid white lines on road.
2) Do not get to close to the bus; this will help you see more, what’s coming towards you.
3) Look ahead, once you see no traffic coming towards you, pass over. If bus is going 5mph, this should be really easy.
4) Do not use your mobile phone, when driving.

Happy driving


MARY aNN Busuttil

Jul 23rd 2011, 16:30

Well done!

Emanuel Cauchi

Jul 24th 2011, 08:11

I can't agree more with you, but there are elderly people who live in Luqa who have to walk in the sun or rain from St Thomas street (Bus Stop) to Gudja Road. If bus 72 passes through Valletta road onto New Street and keep going straight not turning towards Luqa Square, would be very adequate.

James Dewar

Jul 24th 2011, 00:19

Should the question not be "will Arriva still be operating by then"?

Mario Pace

Jul 24th 2011, 19:02

I hope not!

I would like to see the yellow buses back again, re-engineed to stop the smog and have clean air.

Reuben D. Spiteri

Jul 23rd 2011, 09:34

As we in the internet gaming say, don't feed the trolls.

He is just throwing in little sentences with the intention of provoking someone into a rant or rage. Just ignore him.

John Mifsud

Jul 23rd 2011, 17:26

I totally agree with you! Its transport malta (sic!) that has made a complete FLOP with the Arriva service! If we were still under the French, many heads would have been cut off!!! Please Arriva give us residents of FGURA a line of hope for us to get a decent means of transport we were so praying for!! John Mifsud

Gianfrancesco Buttigieg

Jul 23rd 2011, 23:00

How dare they provide public transport on the Republic of Gozo!

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 24th 2011, 18:14

Seriously?? You complain now that you have a public transport system that was practically non-existent for decades?

dennis azzopardi

Jul 22nd 2011, 18:38

Bus no 91 should pass through triq il qaliet in marsascala,

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:19

BORING

Godfrey Pirotta

Jul 23rd 2011, 09:33

don't let jar, bother you. He must have very little to do with his life or constructive to say if he spends his time reading things which he finds boring. Unless of course he is an assistant to Manwel Delia.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 25th 2011, 12:49

AGREE WITH YOU 100 PER CENT A. CARUANA!! Marsaskala will only be served with the Bus 91 when it passes from all the areas, especially the biggest residential area that is known locally as is Siberial area! Which is from

John Mifsud

Jul 24th 2011, 17:48

What us residents of Fgura should do to get a decent bus service?? Sign a petition to our dormant local council too?? It's taking us ages to get to work on time as all 91 buses reach Fgura full up!! It has been 3 bloody unforgetable weeks, not for Arriva, but for Transport Malta! They should all resign! John Mifsud

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:22

Ha Ha, boring like most maltese jokes, get a life

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:25

leave earlier

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:27

no shortage of buses by the looks of it

Yvonne Attard

Jul 22nd 2011, 20:07

The buses arrive but are full up. I dont think you have ever boarded one by your comments.

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:28

cant understand a word

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:29

what happened then

cettina portelli

Jul 22nd 2011, 16:30

this morning, friday 22july, there were people on the bus stop in bormla at 0540am waiting in the hope that the no.2 bus which should depart from birgu to valetta at 0550am would turn up. IT NEVER ARRIVED AT ALL. the next bus that should have arrived in bormla at 0610am, the no.3 from xghajra, finally got to bormla at 0645am!!!! WHAT SORT OF A SERVICE IS THIS? how can we get to work by 7.00am if no buses turn up when they are supposed to? PLUS the fact that the no.3 left FULL from the riche bus stop which meant even MORE waiting for the people of bormla desperate to get to work!!! sending emails to arriva about their (NON)service just gets you back a lot of crap for a reply....we may be a small country but we aint stupid and ARRIVA should realise this by now!

James Dewar

Jul 21st 2011, 20:18

Tessa, It would appear that Arriva do in fact have a rule rgarding their drivers in Malta not having visible tatoos. Dare say it is up to them to set the standards as they see fit. However there seem to be double standards if your father has without previous complaint or comment driven buses in the UK for Arriva thereby suggesting that Tatoos are ok in UK but not in Malta.

As you may be aware the request for UK drivers to drive buses in Malta is very much an emergency move due to the apparent non appearance of a large number of newly recruited drivers in Malta at the start of the new service on 03/07. From your post it would seem that the addition of the requirement re tatoos on the advert was retrospective.

It beggars belief that in what by any standards is an ongoing emergency with a shambolic transport service Arriva feel that they can be so choosy as to make this stipulation. I am of the opinion that as some of the "old regime" drivers in Malta were renowned for their bad attitude and scruffy appearance including many having tatoos Arriva decided to "clean up". They have so far made a number of errors of judgement in the introduction of the new public transport service and I suspect that this is yet another!! I am certain that Maltese and Tourists alike would not give a hoot if the driver was tatooed from head to toe if the bus appeared on time (or even just appeared in some cases) and got them directly to their destination on time. That is not happening at present. If Arriva are going to be as nit picky as that I doubt very much that they will deliver the level of service promised any time soon.

hugh jars

Jul 22nd 2011, 19:51

bet no one turned up

Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze

Jul 26th 2011, 08:38

Mr Jars, Get a grip and understand that commuters are displeased with the overall service Arriva has provided so far!

Ramona Mifsud

Jul 22nd 2011, 08:31

I totally agree Francesca!.. same goes for my parents, they are locked in their own house.. but someone said this is good for them coz they can now do some exercise !! Yes exercise at 1pm in summer.. going up Qaliet Street in the sun... you don't want to see a dog walking up this road, let alone old aged people. What a disgrace!

dennis azzopardi

Jul 22nd 2011, 18:44

Maybe a solution would be for Arriva to provide a couple mini buses that can collect passengers from various spots and ferry them to the the main bus stop at mifsud bonnici square

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 21st 2011, 15:02

I would very much doubt it !

Stephen Koludrovic

Jul 21st 2011, 13:25

@ Simon Borg,

If Arriva started operating on the old routes, we would have easily noticed the fare increase that they imposed.

By shuffling and mixing up all the routes, the computers were so confused that this fact went mostly unnoticed.

So the promise that we were given by the minister, that fares would remain unchanged was a little porky lie.

Mr Paul Caruana

Jul 21st 2011, 12:08

This is very disappointing! Unless Arriva manages to run its buses according to timetable, and soon, the reform will be a big expensive failure.

Get the valletta routes right by putting additional buses on the valletta routes if need be, even at the cost of scrapping the regional intervillage bus routes - which hardly anyone uses anyway!

James Dewar

Jul 20th 2011, 19:07

Anthony, 757 comments tell me that they cant!!

Mr Lawrence Mifsud

Jul 21st 2011, 09:38

They tried to do it by including more zones/area into previously much shorter routes. This is at the expense of the commuter, who has to spend much longer on a bus.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 21st 2011, 15:54

No one has yet seen them in Marsascala though!! They should monitor Bus nos 119 and 124 = empty most of the time and Bus no 91 which is not doing the route as promised.

Daniel Caruana

Jul 20th 2011, 18:20

Good to you Mr Borg that you only waited 16min for bus 125. My daughter last Monday waited in vain for 2 hours at Diego bus stop in Hamrun to catch 125, afterwhich she had to abondon her attempt to attend prepaid tuition. By the way the bus stop signs in Psaila Str have been put up , but can Arriva advise when their service would be running per schedules and reliable. As until then, it is dreading and a gamble to use their service, at the cost of our time and money.

JOSEPH VELLA

Jul 20th 2011, 17:07

Prosit Sur Attard fi ftit kliem spjegajt il-problema kollha. Dwar l-interchanges naħseb li dawn iktar ħasbu biex ma' jitkabrux is-suppost karozzi ġodda milli l-kumdita' tal-pubbliku

Stephen Koludrovic

Jul 19th 2011, 17:10

The guys in Arriva are not stupid.

They are not concerned about the discomforts of the commuters.

All they are interested in, is making as much money, with as few buses, and drivers as possible.

Anyway you look at it, 280 buses cannot better the frequency times of the 500 buses we had before.

John Mifsud

Jul 24th 2011, 17:58

well done Brian! You have my same toughts! Why on earth did Transport Malta did a complete fiasco of the routes? Im sure those who masterminded the routes have NEVER used the public transport! Ask the residents of Fgura, amongst many others, how cool it is to wait more than an hour to get the 91 bus for work!! Shame on those, who after 3 weeks, this problem hasnt been solved! Cant another 91 bus depart from Zabbar at the same time the other leaves Marsascala? is it such a big and imp[ossible task??? please solve our headaces now as we've had ENOUGH! John Mifsud

Mr Dave Smith

Jul 19th 2011, 15:53

Mark,yes, but with respect, will have little effect Bastow as is a protected species.
The real people to contact are he share holders of Deustche Bahn.
The holding company.

Charles Bugeja

Jul 19th 2011, 21:13

good point Mark - hereunder find the email I sent them

Hi,

I am from Malta and would like to pass some comments on the service you are providing over here. We were filled with high expectations regarding the new service from Arriva but I am sorry to tell you you have disappointed the whole nation. The old service we had is much better than your service. Routes have been so much lengtened that every trip takes you for a tour of Malta. I used to take 25 minutes before to arrive from Birzebbugia to valletta, now it is taking 45 minutes. Buses are not keeping their time and drivers do not know the roads buses have to pass through. It seems no proper training was given. Besides, many people are still confused how to use the new system. No proper advertising was done - only 3 leaflets were distributed for such a huge change. Your call centre staff do not have all the information to deal with customer complaints. Also, the bendy buses are not good for our roads as they are too large. Besides, they seem not to have enough power to go uphills.
I think what should be done is to keep the old routes for a period of time and than increase other routes gradually. The change was huge and not properly planned - either by you or Transport Malta.

Regards

Charles

Josephine Mifsud

Jul 19th 2011, 14:12

Pero' n-nies se jibghqu jistennew fix-xemx, jistennew is-sighat biex imorru minn post ghal iehor, jitilfu l-appuntamenti l-isptar, imorru tard ghax-xoghol u jaqtghulhom mill-paga sakemm is-sistema tal-IT u l-hinijiet jibdew jahdmu kif suppost.....Ghaliex ma sarx planning tajjeb qabel???.....Jew ma kienux daqshekk pruzuntuzi li jaghmlu rotot godda meta l-anqas kien hemm buses daqs qabel....Ta' l-inqas izommu r-rotot li kien hemm qabel u jibdew ikunu fil-hin, mhux l-anqas hadd ma jaf fi x'hin tghaddi l-bus minn fuq kull bus stop li hawn Malta ghaliex tghaddi fi x'hin trid.....Possibbli haddddddddddd ma jista' at this point jirregola li jkun hemm hin li jitilqu l-buses minn kull post..............Veru ma nistax nifimha din.....din hi t-tielet gimgha u ghadu kollox l-istess u hawn nies veru qed ibaghtu. Pero' hadd mhu jaghmel xejn.....

Joe Scerri

Jul 19th 2011, 16:20

il-problema hija meta......

Freda Busuttil

Jul 21st 2011, 08:04

Meta?

Mr FRANS H SAID

Jul 19th 2011, 11:18

Jew inkella ghaliex hekk jaqblilhom!!!!!!!!!!

Kenneth Grima

Jul 19th 2011, 10:00

Sono andato in Sicilia ho passato una vacanza a piedi ho taxi perche bus non esistono affatto. Sono andato in musei e mio zio che e siciliano a comprato lui i biglietti perche se andavo io mi sciuppavano perche non ho residenza in Italia pur essendo Europeo. In italia non ci vado piu.

John Mifsud

Jul 24th 2011, 18:08

Prosit! That will be the day! Perhaps we can see all 69 MPS protesting in parliament about Transport Malta's bog FLOP! John Mifsud

E. Cardona

Jul 18th 2011, 19:29

It was one of the FRIENDS of FRIENDS Georg Sapiano who invented the magical routes and our money no problem government gave him 130,000 euros from the taxpayers pocket.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 19th 2011, 18:59

Well said Ms Scicluna! My mother used to get no 17 Bus from near Jerma Hotel to go to daily mass and also to get to Zabbar and Valletta, now Triq is Salini isn't even on the Bus route and the Bus shelters are empty - and this when Siberia San Tumas areas are the largest areas in Marsascala, again i ask where is the Marsascala Local Council now that it should open it's mouth and protest on behalf of residents - is it fast asleep??

Mr Matthew Pace

Jul 18th 2011, 10:33

I am agreed with Joanna Camilleri. It is only thing good the company has is the AC, uniforms, etc.

Jairo Mifsud

Jul 18th 2011, 12:47

There is bus route 11 that leaves valletta every 30 minutes....
The Difference between leaving times is every 15 minutes so every 15 minutes leaves a bus for cirkewwa

Jeffrey Bonanno

Jul 19th 2011, 10:59

@ Jairo Mifsud

With route 41 you spend a wasted 30 minutes sight seeing Bugibba and Qawra and with route 11 you spend a wasted 30 minutes sight seeing Bugibba and Qawra and another wasted 20 minutes sight seeing Sliema and St. Julians area. People from Mellieha, Xemxija etc. have no other alternatives except to waste time going round the island to arrive at Valletta. Is that the efficiency that we were promised? Far from it.....

A Caruana

Jul 17th 2011, 19:04

The South of Malta is always forgotten, just take a close look at the Bus schedules and we will all see that some areas are more than comfortable with the new routes while in the South everyopne is complaining because the new routes have been made worse not better for us. Take Marsascala , Zabbar and Fgura having to share one bus and to add salt to the wound Bus 91 doers not even go aroun d the village but only to the Terminus from Zabbar. People who know how big is Marsaskala will know that this is untenable..

Chris Galea

Jul 18th 2011, 10:43

Mr. J Borg, I do feel your pain because I share it. However, when I catch the bus its either from Naxxar or Iklin. In both localities the service is rubbish especially when compared to the previous one. I've waited longer than an hour for a bus that as advertised should be running every 10 mins. Catching the bus from Floriana is impossible so I have to walk to Valletta in order to catch a bus. Trust me the lack off service offered by Arriva affects the whole Island and not just the south of Malta.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 19th 2011, 19:04

Prosit A Caruana! It is a fact of life that:

Marsascala is not at all well served with the new routes as designed by Transport Malta, a simple short term solution would be to have Bus no 91 go into Triq is Salini from Marina Street and out through triq il Qaliet back to the Terminus, at least as a temporary measure this would solve a lot of problems for residents in this area.

Secret Squirrel

Jul 18th 2011, 20:03

...I never thought I'd see the day that somebody would argue to pay MORE for a service they do not enjoy using.

Stop moaning.

Mr Paul Caruana

Jul 17th 2011, 10:05

Let us not try to confuse issues here.......the EU had nothing to do with this! Rather, the responsibility falls on Transport Malta and Arriva whose ideas for a radical reform of the system have up to now been, shall we say, less than successful.

James Dewar

Jul 17th 2011, 00:29

Raymond, I agree with most of what you say particularly re the pace of change being far too quick. However, I would take issue with your suggestion that there is an ulterior motive and that it will impact on fares and the standard of service. To create that agenda would require a degree of forward thinking and planning and from what we have seen so far Arriva and TM are clearly unable to do either!!

kim reid

Jul 17th 2011, 06:40

spot on

Mr Anthony Borg

Jul 16th 2011, 20:40

Yes Mr. Vella Licari, we are already using our private cars again.
Until Transport Malta, as the contractor for Public Transport, sorts out this mess, Arriva will continue to lose patronage.

A Caruana

Jul 17th 2011, 14:22

The wied il Ghajn route is a disater as not the largest areas in the whole village have the bus 91 to Valletta, from near Cerviola Hotel where i live i have to walk to the terminus to go to Valletta, or wait 30 minutes or more for 135 to Terminus, wait again for Bus 91 maybe after 2 hours i arrive at my destination. Is this fair Mr Gatt and trasport Malta? Maybe instaed of wasting that € 380,000 on this routes you could at least have given consideration to the areas involved and the number of resients in each area. Mela sewwa Bus no 119 is always empty to M'Xlokk and for Valletta we do not have a decent Bus service, this is totally stupid.

Claire Busuttil

Jul 15th 2011, 21:43

to zabbar is fine

cettina portelli

Jul 18th 2011, 18:09

yes, mr scicluna, i undersand you so well. we, the people of bormla and birgu are having a nightmare trying to get to work on time. the first bus from xghajra, the no..3 is supposed to arrive in bormla at 0610. it has never arrived earlier than 0635 and sometimes later. this means that the people from xghajra must sit on a bus for at least an hour till they get to valetta!!! does this make sense? plus, the no.2 bus which is SUPPOSED to depart from cottonera at 0550hrs HAS NEVER EVER SHOWED UP ON TIME. sometimes it arrives 30minutses late sometimes NOT AT ALL. how are we supposed to get to work at 7.00am if we have been given such a shoddy service? ive seen people in tears waiting for a bus due to pure frustration!!!

Mr FRANS H SAID

Jul 15th 2011, 21:19

I would not say that the fares are exceptional, but on my part I would not mind paying that little bit extra for direct quick routes.

How is it that before the blind change there was no survey of the amount of passangers using particular routes. This was not a case of sampling, but of a full study and evaluation.

M Muscat

Jul 15th 2011, 11:00

I have a mistake. There is a population of around 50 people not 25.

Mark Galea

Jul 15th 2011, 10:00

Sure, as a sight seeing tour, it can only improve.
But for those who need the service, it is only a time waster.
Come next September/October when the real traffic starts, and more people start using their cars, one will see what this improvement will be.

G Briffa

Jul 14th 2011, 09:15

Oh so now you are complaining again ? Werent you the first person to call for drivers to be sacked and saying that the transport and routes will be a lot better then what we had. I admit the buses are really accomodate but i guess you are now realising that it wasn't the drivers for the delays, but because of that stupid guy who won't mention his name that invented these routes. In order for me to go to Mcast i have to take 3 freaking buses in the morning and afternoon

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 19th 2011, 23:00

G Briffa - you are mixing me up with someone else! I have complained about the new routes from day one. I never said the drivers were responsible for the big flop on the routes, anzi i always said Transport Malta and it's fat cows of consultants who are to blame for this mess.

ALBERT GALEA

Jul 15th 2011, 08:22

was this minister's gatt going away gift to the maltese public ?

Mr Sandro Cremona

Jul 15th 2011, 09:51

Gatt qallek : spicca iz zmien tal buzulotti !!! wara li ilna 30 sena nigvernaw.....

Ronald Sultana

Jul 14th 2011, 13:56

good comment

Mr John Dee

Jul 15th 2011, 10:45

Much as I agree with you as regards the nostalgia which the old buses evoked, I wonder how many of them met with the modern safety requirements public transport needs to provide for both passengers and drivers (yes - the drivers really are mostly normal people).

I recall seeing a picture of one overturned in a field ( according to the driver for no apparent cause) which looked to be about a metre high - what passenger protection was built in there?

Perhaps if we give them enough time and support - yes SUPPORT - we will finish up with a service so reliable and efficient that we can boast about it to all and sundry.

In the meantime lets all have a good moan!

kim reid

Jul 16th 2011, 09:20

WHEN YOU PACK PEOPLE IN LIKE SARDINES , IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SAFETY REGULATIONS ARE IN, IN REGARDS TO THE BUS ITSELF, I ENGLISH WOULD THEY GET AWAY WITH PACKING OUT THE BUSES LIKE A BOMBAY BUS BACK HOME , I DONT THINK SO

Jeffrey Bonanno

Jul 14th 2011, 11:38

i'd say a never ending ride...

James Camilleri

Jul 13th 2011, 19:49

What tell us please maybe soemthing can be done soon to sort out this mess of a public transport disservice

Anthony Grech

Jul 12th 2011, 23:02

The problem is that the new introduced routes where increased by distance to cover,new routes were introduced by foriegn people!!
Fom Valletta to Cirkewwa it takes 2.5hrs to 3hrs,depending on the traffic peek,if kept like this next mid September, When the School open thier doors, it will be Chaotic,the same trip will take nearly to 4hrs

Mrs Carmen Borg

Jul 13th 2011, 01:15

I am attaching this comment to yours because when I click on the main post comment icon it opens up and promptly closes again preventing any entry.

From far away Australia after reading all these complaints about the new bus service, I think this has been a monumental balls up.

Transport Malta and Arriva should be totally ashamed of themselves.

Have they ever heard of the word research or even know what it actually means?

If they did do research, where did they go to do it, the Sahara Dessert?




Mr Joe Borg

Jul 13th 2011, 01:50

Not bir Zebbuga -> Birzebbuga

A. Demanuele

Jul 12th 2011, 15:11

My wife works 5 hours daily in Valletta , where before it took her from an overall 50 minutes to 1 hour to go to work and come back home , now its taking an overall average of 3 hours - we must say it almost trippled , she's spending almost the same time in bus / waiting for the bus as her working hours.

My opinion : You can't change all routes , route numbers , new services all together.Buses , Drivers and Uniforms etc should changed over to Arriva as scheduled but we should have kept the same service and things done gradually , the changeover should had been taken keeping the old routes and numbers , then by time first changing the route numbers , then more time and include new routes and then after some time starting changing and removing routes.

James Camilleri

Jul 12th 2011, 20:26

Read comments on the internet re the service given to commuters by Arriva in the UK - you will realise that we are not the only people who grumble. If Arriva does have a reputation to safeguard it should set its house in order and not just in Malta.

J Drury

Jul 12th 2011, 14:50

You would wish that right Paul??

So let's change the government since the bus way empty and it's a useless route (according to you)..

Pathetic to say the least!!

James Dewar

Jul 12th 2011, 14:14

Can't argue with that, all very valid!

James Camilleri

Jul 11th 2011, 22:25

Oh please shut up Ms Camenzuli - you are as bad as the Arriva service - all shiny and nice but with no substance.

Paul Ellul

Jul 12th 2011, 09:26

I too have noticed them talking on the phones. They are not bothering with keeping up the cleanliness of the buses as yet. They need to find someone to do it as yet I have been told.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 12th 2011, 10:16

Well said Ms Sarah, my 78 year old mother lives near the St Thomas Tower near the Jerma, before she could get Bus `17 or 19 or 20 to Valletta or Bus 22 to Cospicua, if Mr Delia is saying in the Times of today that the Councils and the residents were consulted before drawing up the routes then he is a big LIAR, my mother did not receive any invitation to discuss the new routes before they sent out the map and if the Council agreed to a route which has eliminated Bus no 17 from passing in Salini street just in front of their own office then they are not looking out for the interests of residents or are taking a summer nap. When my mother received the arriva map by post at home it was shown that Bus 91 would pass every 10 minutes from Qaliet street, when this was not happening, we phoned Arriva customer care who told us there was a mistake on the map and Bus 91 stops at the Terminus. All that they need is to have Bus 91 follow the route as was drawn on their own map. So instead of the useless Bus 119 which follows most of route 135 which can be eliminated as people can take 135 and change at Bir id Deheb to get to M'xlokk Arriva needs to provide a bus service to Valletta for all areas in Marsascala as it was before. It is the routes which are causing hardship not the drivers or the signs on the buses. It is stupid to expect people to go to Airport then get a Bus to Valletta, at least the old direct routes were better in serving the needs of the residents, now they are interested in only serving tourists. But as always the South of Malta is neglected in everything. To get to Birgu market my mother has to either get Bus 135 to Terminus, hop on bus no 91, stop at Paola anad then hop on another Bus to Birgu. - This is ridiculous and must be chamged. To get to Valletta she must either walk 20 minutes to Terminus or get on Bus 135, stop at Terminus and get another Bus 91 to Valletta, and the time is doubled to get to where you have to go bacause of all the round Malta tours. If Halcyon and Transport Malta think these routes are making the Maltese people happier they are very wrong.

Doris Farrugia

Jul 12th 2011, 11:11

Ms Sarah Attard Gialanze,I think that you are misinformed about bus 135.If you think that boarding 135 is taking you to Valletta,I'm sorry but you'll end up at the airport through Gudja/Ghaxaq.

James Dewar

Jul 11th 2011, 11:08

Arthur, I agree wholeheartedly and hope that this discrimination is ended soon. However, as I indicated in my post below we were shocked recently to consistently witness a number of the old drivers in the old buses deliberately failing to issue tickets to paying black customers. This was not a "one off" but a regular occurence. Unless there is some justifiable reason for this ( I cant think what that could be ) this was blatant discrimination on racial grounds.

S. Camilleri

Jul 12th 2011, 08:15

'Discrimination' based on residency ... as opposed to citizenship ... is practised everywhere; in the EU and North America and in parochial Malta. Consider residents parking. Same thing. Why should a resident have 100% better chance to park his car then a non-resident who works in the same location (and spends 8-10 hour per day of his life there)?

Julian Agius

Jul 10th 2011, 11:16

Thank God Someone is investing in Malta to employ ! Thank God you can breath driving behind a bus.Thank god for the smart & friendly drivers.God had only one Devil & took 7 days to create the world Arriva have many many.The ex bus Drivers; those parking on bus stops those argueing etc.etc.
Yes bad Start but what you expect when a big percentage of bus drivers did not show up.It is a pity I cannot drive a bus as I would go for free until those who wants to live as in the 60 bullying & scaring other
companys away are completly gone. Good luck Arriva hope you dont forget those drivers that are doing their best not to go back to te 60's.Its easy for so many to complain but not so easy now a days for companys to come to invest!Easy to write & complain but very hard to say thankyou.
J.Agius

Godfrey Pirotta

Jul 10th 2011, 15:42

@Julian Agius
Even if all the drivers turn-up it would still be a problem because one of the major problems is the routes adopted. Where there was once simplicity there is now unecessary changes. It is clear that the ministry of Austin Gatt was once again guilty of gross incompetence (as in the case of Arms Ltd) and now have joined the band wagon to blame Arriva and the drivers. Management has said that half of those who did not turn up were former bus drivers. This means that the other half were new drivers. Does this not make you ask a number of questions? Maybe unlike me you are not a daily bus user and therefore cannot compare the old routes with the new. As things stand when University opens in October you will find that students will have to take very early buses to get to campus and there will be chaos as they try to get home after lectures. Similarly the inconvenience for people who need to get to Mater Dei for early appointments (the norm) and to visit relatives. You must understand the people who use these buses are mainly elderly people who have no other alternative but to depend on their relatives. Then they will have a hard time getting home again.
I do not blame Arriva for the chaos I have experienced this week but Minister Gatt who laid out the conditions and blueprint for the project. Unlike you, because it touches me closely, I have taken an interest from a couple of years before Arriva were first mentioned and I did write to say that the plans were not appropriate. So I feel entitled to complain and to shout out loud I TOLD YOU SO!
Finally Minister Gatt said on Saturday that the project took three years of planning and research. It makes you think seriously about the professional training of these planners and researchers. probably they were people from the Minister's constituency who like him have never really used the public transport.

Alex Bugeja

Jul 10th 2011, 08:07

All of what you heard is true Nick, well said.

hugh jars

Jul 10th 2011, 20:22

so £2 for 1 stop in the uk and €2.60 for a day ticket.....get a life, people moan every day out there but that is all they do. stay there and be ripped off

Anthony Pace

Jul 9th 2011, 18:42

It's still possible and time to get the yellow buses back for a few months until something is sorted out. Arriva can pack up and take its buses with it. They won't be missed.

Time for the cabinet to meet the old drivers , GWU and banks to sponsor a new bus system tailored for the maltese workers.

People need to get from A to B in a short time, efficiently and with speed.

Just imagine the millions this company is going to swallow from us before we get to an election. The MLP will have to sort it out and I hope Mr Muscat is up to it. If this was a pre-election gimick it has failed and cst the PN the election.

The Minister responsible for transport should resign. He was also responsible for te fiasco of Air Malta up till recently.

Paul Ellul

Jul 9th 2011, 17:39

I agree we had a very efficient bus service. Now we have nothing.

Cut your losses Minister and PM and call it a day. To hell with Europe.

The Brisish are very masterful at drawing out a situation to a lengthy finish and appear not to get the blame. You cannot treat drivers as tough they are scum You need back drivers and there are not enough Maltese drivers for that. Arriva is a big bully company. Leave these islands now and let get on with our lives. We celerbrate liberation day on 31st March.

Alex Bugeja

Jul 10th 2011, 08:19

Well said mate.

Mr Vince Cachia

Jul 9th 2011, 17:35

Monica you are one of the stupid persons that are praising the system. Yesterday I had to walk all the way from Kirkop to Hamrun. Two buses passed by and did not stop!! If I were the driver of one of them, seeing a person in the middle of nowhere, that means Kirkop I would have stopped even if I had a hundred people on board. One more would not have made any difference, but NOOOO rules are rules or are they doing this on purpose?? You cannot argue if they are full up or not because the windows are black, and that is against Malta's rules too!!

Alistair Busuttil

Jul 10th 2011, 15:51

mr cachia dont be selfish a bus has to stop on a bustop,i understand your frustration but things are changing and eventually be finetuned

hugh jars

Jul 10th 2011, 20:26

ah poor chap 20 mins, get a life

Anthony Pace

Jul 9th 2011, 09:21

I think that a week is enough to convince the minister in charge of TM that the old bus routes need to be re-introduced again.

The bosses of Arriva probably realise that as well.

The minister should eat humble pie, admit that the introduction of sight-seeing routes is a flop after a week and apologise.

Arriva should look at alternaives to the bigger buses.

They are a big organisation and can ship them to Europe and replace them with smaller ones that are needed for speed, frequency and ease of driving in Malta's congested roads and the need to get from A to B in a sort time such as the girl who went for interview from Zurrieq toSliema.

People have realised that comfort is not everything and neither is a/c and that large buses are combersome and take double the time.

Anthony Pace

Jul 9th 2011, 08:15

Millions of euros to the tax payer and finance deptartment for the lost hours of work every worker had to endure. Enough to put Non-Arriva out of business in Malta and Europe.

MINISTER ARRIVA IS A TOTAL FLOP.

PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. GIVE US THE OLD ROUTES BACK. SEND ARRIVA PACKING & GET THE OLD BUSES BACK TILL SOMETHING IS SORTED OUT.

Anthony Pace

Jul 9th 2011, 10:22

I have lived in the UK for a long time. Arriva are the pits and they treat their employees as shit. They have a bad name in regards to employment. No wonder the bus drivers have rejected their offer. No-one in the UK will put up with such working conditions. The foreign drivers are only here because it is like a holiday for them. Some have brought their partners and children for the month. However Non Arriva is never going to have enough local drivers. Anyone could see that.

MINISTER AUSTIN GATT RESIGN OR PM ASK THE MINISTER FOR HIS RESIGNATION.

Robert Hardy

Jul 11th 2011, 08:21

anthony pace

"The foreign drivers are only here because it is like a holiday for them." What utter nonsense! To be thrown into the prevailing chaos, approaching the busiest time of the tourist season, and in the extreme heat, is hardly a holiday.
I'd also like to know where you've had your information from about them bringing partners and children. Unless they've paid for them to go over, it's NOT allowed. You may also like to know that some of the personnel from the UK, who've been in Malta for several months already, haven't seen their partners and children for all of that length of time, unless they come back home. Said people have been working extremely hard to get drivers through their driving tests and trained ready to start the service. Hardly a holiday is it???

James Camilleri

Jul 8th 2011, 13:28

Better still "Ghar Iva"

Frank Portelli 2BFRANK

Jul 8th 2011, 17:01

As Robert De Niro put it

" are you talking to me ? "

regards

Dr Frank Portelli

Anthony Pace

Jul 8th 2011, 14:54

You hit it on the nail.

I have been saying all along that what we need is small buses with a frequent service.

Bus 49 left every 10 minutes from Valletta and got you to Bugibba in under 20 minutes on a good run. Now its likely more around 2 HOURS.

Minister take head of these comments as you will be drawing your pension in about fifteen months time.

Listen to the voice of the people. They want the old routes back and they want them now not in six month time. Sort out the bus sizes later but start negotiating on a return of the bendy buses and the big buses NOW. There is no time to wait. Terminate the contract before it goes any further. Get buses that fit our roads.

Tell these Arriva scum that they are not wanted. They have failed us badly. We have paid them enough, put up with their English insolence for decades. Now it is up to us to nationalise the bus service for our use. Foreigners can either put up or shut up and go home.

The English are masterful at waiting and drawing things to a long term conclusion for their profit.

To-day at the hospital there were conducters on the buses telling the English drivers were to drive to. we had enough drivers if Arriva did not concoct some mad time-table that infurated the drivers who felt badly paid.

Ms Francesca Abela

Jul 12th 2011, 16:16

Exactly Martin - today i have seen the 119 bus to B'Bugia go past Qaliet street with only 1 passenger, what a waste of money, fuel, human resources and a wasted trip. Whilst Marsascala residents who live in Jerma, Cerviola, San Tumas areas are crying out for a direct bus to Valletta. To get from the Airport to Marsascala now is 30 minutes plus a wait at Valletta and another 30 mins to get the X4 to Airport, whilst before it only took 30 minutes from Valletta to Marsascala. Progress - what progress?

hugh jars

Jul 8th 2011, 11:23

get a life bring them old heaps back, no thanks. nor the gorilla drivers. 21st century pal, live it or leave it

Anthony Pace

Jul 8th 2011, 14:58

Mr Jars whether you like it or not you are in Malta where everybody is as selfish and rude as the bus drivers only it doesn't always show. You just had to ignore the rudness or gorilla antics of the drivers.

Mr Jonathan Calleja

Jul 8th 2011, 21:21

There are only 6 long London Buses. All others are new. They ran on diesel and not on petrol. Imagine how they could run with petrol with AC full on.

James Camilleri

Jul 8th 2011, 13:39

"the best service we ever had" "professional system" "high standard" ? Are you living in Alice in Wonderland jew? What is so best, so professional, so high about it. Because it is new, with ACs, which at times do not work, with equipment which do not work all the time, with hours long waits and with ever lasting trips. Dream on mate or wake up to reality.

Philip Hili

Jul 9th 2011, 01:07

@ Paul Sammut

It is not in the interest of some drivers and some public to give "Arriva" the time to settle down. From day one some of the drivers showed the Maltese public that they were engaged by "Arriva" to make things difficult and not to help the public. All this was premeditated and I am very sorry that nobody thought for such eventuality and the company was caught on the wrong foot.

I hope that these people will be BLACK LISTED from the company FOR GOOD as seamen used to be when they desert a vessel.

cettina portelli

Jul 15th 2011, 17:45

mr sammut....what a load of drivel you write! "best service" is a bus arriving full from xghajra which arrives in bormla via smart city, rinella and kalkara and ALWAYS late because the timings are ridiculous! its written on the site that it takes ONE MINUTE to get from kalkara to bormla....to get out of kalkara the bus has to go up a hill which in a car would take more than that so you can imagine how long a full bus would take. PLUS the population of xghajra in the summer swells considerably - as i KNOW happens in marsascala too(poor people of zabbar and fgura trying to get on a bus) - if you board a bus from xghajra, it takes AT LEAST one hour, if not longer to go to valetta! the people of the three cities have no early bus to take them to work and are arriving late. HOW CAN WE ACCEPT THIS AS A HIGH STANDARD OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT? we cant even walk to the closest villages, zabbar or fgura, and try to get on a bus there because they have the same problem as we have!!!!

Philip Hili

Jul 9th 2011, 01:13

@ Tony Caruana

What a childish comment!!!! Qiesek kont taf li ser jigri hekk sur Caruana!! Ma naghmlux moghod li kont xi instructor ghal din is-sitwazzjoni hux????

Sur Caruana, taf li t-tfal iz-zaghar jirragunaw hekk?

La s-Sur Delia, la l-Ministru u l-anqas l-ebda impjegat ta' "l-Arriva" ma tista' ssib ghax hadd minn dawn ma ghandu tort ghad-disastru li gabu d-DRIVERS!!!!!!

Chris Vella

Jul 7th 2011, 15:52

You’re mistaken my friend this system is only suitable for tourists needs should it ever start to run as it should. That’s why no Mater Dei & University for example. Keep one thing in mind who’s got the highest fares I leave to you the answer.

Anyone with a little knowledge of public transport can see it.

Also this is a polite attack on the coaches, Taxies, minibuses and any operator that can compete in a way or another with Arriva in public Transport with the blessing of GOV.

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 7th 2011, 18:12

@Frank Camilleri:

Sorry but I don't agree to most of your article.

"Changing three buses to go to certain localities is a far cry from an efficient bus service."
On average, from my experience of the service so far, you can reach most destinations rather efficiently (once buses run on time, that is) by changing a bus only once, twice at most, which isn't much more inconvenient than the old system, where you had to first go to Valletta and change bus there anyway. The biggest difference is that now, you might need to change somewhere else, rather than in Valletta - and most likely somewhere closer to your destination. I think you're wrong about inefficiency; a star network (what we had before) is the most inefficient kind of network actually, because you often have to travel in opposite direction (towards valletta) before getting to your destination.

"Waiting for hours for a bus is a far cry from an efficient bus service"
Agree 100%, but we expect this to improve within a week or two according to contract terms... so this should be a temporary issue

"Change buses over relatively short distances a far cry from an efficient bus service"
Although this system is used in very large cities like London, I've traveled for shorter distances than the ones I travel here within London centre, using the underground train system, and I rarely ever got where I wanted to go without taking less than two trains or having to change after a minute or two of travelling... Yes, London is huge, but it still makes sense to travel using this system even short distances within the city centre... once you get used to it.

"Changing buses to go to Mater Dei apart from being a far cry from an efficient bus service is highly insensitive to the hustle and pain especially endured by the sick and the aged".
This is the one point I tend to agree with you most on. However, there may be other solutions to this. Perhaps, co-op services could provide this sort of service, just for the elderly.

Coming to what you say the Maltese way of life demands:
"i.direct service to Valletta and back from and to every town and village as we used to have,"
Sorry this is not what the Maltese way of life demands, but what apathy to inform oneself and resistance to change demands, Maltese way of life, just like any other way of life, demands getting where you have to go efficiently, and fast. How you do that is irrelevant; if you're willing to learn and adapt.

"ii.direct service to Mater Dei as we used to have,"
Yes, just to be sensitive to the elderly. But perhaps through other means.

"iii. frequent bust stops in strategic points within the village/ town as we used to have. "
Frequent yes, and I think they will improve in time. But when it comes to bus stops, some bus stops have been removed, while others have been added. Some people lose, some people gain; you can't please everyone. What's sure is that it won't do this obese nation any harm to walk an extra five or ten minutes every day!

What I'm saying is this: some of the routes are indeed much longer than what they used to be, and they definitely need tweaking. But in like 80% of cases, whenever I hear people moan about the new bus routes I find that they haven't picked the best route for their journey, either out of lack of knowledge, or because they're not willing to change buses at interchanges. For that, I blame the general public for their unwillingness to change mindset, and Arriva for not doing a great job at informing the public and working to change the mentality. In fact, in some cases (e.g. through the journey planner online), it gives wrong or misleading information.

Now go ahead and tell me I'm nuts. :)

Mr Clyde Ellul

Jul 7th 2011, 17:17

Dear Marisa,

That's only if you get bus 23 and stay on it till you get to Valletta. You could have gotten off the bus at Mosta, and then you could have gotten bus 31 to Valletta, which would have cut off a substantial chunk off the scenic route you mentioned (about half an hour's worth!). And when buses start operating on schedule, the total journey time using this combination would have been just over an hour. Still a bit long perhaps, but much better than what you're saying.

Your post just goes to prove what I've been saying all along... that people are whining about the new routes but don't bother finding out how they can make the best use of them, and are still travelling with the mindset that they have to stay on the same bus to go anywhere, if possible.

hugh jars

Jul 7th 2011, 22:19

AND.....not suitable, no cos u r still inthe 19th century. Get to work late, shame leave earlier dood

Mr Joe Gatt

Jul 7th 2011, 10:01

Arriva could have simply brought over to Malta their Busses and Drivers in Gozo, on a temporary basis.

Whilst Arriva could have contracted a local coach Company to cover Gozo in the meantime, temporarily.

James Camilleri

Jul 8th 2011, 13:49

Mela qabel ma kienx hawn karrozzi jimblukkaw toroq miss? Forsi dawn hargu biex ikomplu jpperfezzjonaw mas-sabutagg

Veronica Debattista

Jul 7th 2011, 07:48

they need to be cold since the poor drivers are made to wear a shirt and tie in summer!!!!

henry spiteri

Jul 6th 2011, 20:11

well done Ritchie thats what we want to read not nonsence polictcs.ARE U MALTESE????????????????

Mr Joshua Attard

Jul 7th 2011, 10:55

at the moment maltese drivers on a split shift are being paid 65 euros a day . And if thats how much they are paid in the u.k then they should earn it while they are here... cause who's coming over to malta to work if they are not paid well ? . Bus drivers earn more in the u.k because for a mile journey I was charged about 5 pounds.. one way ! Cost of living is higher

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 6th 2011, 20:39


The people wouild certainly have voted for Arriva.

.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 6th 2011, 20:37


If this is the only type of criticism Labour is able to make,
then Labour is really not prepared to govern.

Mater Dei was very good progress.
You can ask most patients there.

Arriva will also be very good progress
after the sabotage of the 56 old drivers is beaten.

I hope other Labour supporters can come up with better than
Mr Albert Galea's 'criticism' which just shows Labour
at its very worst. You deserve better.

Mr Joe Gatt

Jul 7th 2011, 16:29

MaryJo Camenzuli

Mater Dei was very good progress.
You can ask most patients there.

Mary Jo, you are so right

Arriva at present, is an exact copy of our new State of The Art Hospital` Mater Dei`

Its ok, but ONLY if you can make it There

Mr Joe Gatt

Jul 7th 2011, 19:34

Adrian Bajada

Did the old system before provide tents to shade from the hot Sun?

Did`nt have to, Those old Ficus Trees did.

Robert G

Jul 6th 2011, 22:13

Whilst I fully agree with your comments in regards to how at least certain emergency structures should have been put in place to deal with the shortage on popular routes, I cannot fail to comment on your last sentence.

I haven't been to Milan for a year, and was wondering if Malpensa airport closed down due to shortage of staff. Have they all been fired? As the last couple of times I visited the info desk was empty; I always end up stranded for at least 30 minutes at the luggage claim due to broken or missing luggage (but I know this is to be expected and calculated in the travel timings when passing through Malpensa). Also the last time I didn't find any staff to talk to to try to get medical assistance as a barman at the airport had just been exposed to a coffee machine vapour in his face; One of the people in my party (a doctor) was medicating him using our own tour first aid thus losing 30 minutes (additional to the 45 at the luggage desk) because of which we missed the last train to our final destination; And if I am not mistaken the airport has been operating for more than 3 days right?

Mr Brian Camilleri

Jul 6th 2011, 14:31

Thumbs up. Well said. !!

Elizabeth Hair

Jul 6th 2011, 18:58

a lady I spoke to on my bus said there used to be a direct bus from Marsascala to Cospicua, that has been scrapped and she now has to catch a bus to Paola and one from there to Cospicua

hugh jars

Jul 5th 2011, 18:51

Well said, too many whingers as usual. These old heap drivers probably row with themselves while shaving, Arriva will win in the end

Mr D Borg

Jul 5th 2011, 22:47

I agree with your argument. However I see the whole episode in more positive light. I think that it was Arriva's method of getting rid of the old system drivers. They came up with the additional hours shift on purpose, so the old drivers would revert to their old habits of threatening and striking. This would give Arriva a valid reason to get rid of them. Well done!

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 5th 2011, 16:34


Naturalment,
il-famillji tad-drivers l-antiki qed jieħdu gost
li s-sabutaġġ li ħasbu irnexxa, anke jekk għal ftit ġranet.

Imma l-inkonvenjent ta' dawn l-aħħar ġranet
għalina l-passiġġieri m'hu xejn
ħdejn dak li għaddewna minnu d-drivers l-antiki
li tant qdewna ħażin u kasbruna għal ħafna snin.

Arriva msieken ma ndunawx xi ħdura w lanżit
għandhom għalihom id-drivers l-antiki.
U ma ndunawx kemm huma vendikattivi
li jaslu li japplikaw en masse biex taparsi jaħdmu
u fl-ewwel ġurnata ma jmorrux
ħalli jissabutaġġjaw is-servizz.

Imma s-servizz ma sfrattax, anzi ġej f'tiegħu bil-mod -
illum qbadt kemm mainline routes u anke direct routes -
u n-nies kellhom tifħir għas-servizz,
għall-buses u għad-drivers il-ġodda.

Jekk id-drivers l-antiki qed jieħdu gost
u t-tgergir jisimgħuh 'mużika ħelwa f'widnejhom',
aħna l-passiġġieri qed nieħdu gost ukoll
li fl-aħħar qed titwettaq ħolma li ilna noħolmu 40 sena.

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James Camilleri

Jul 5th 2011, 19:39

Are you an Arriva PR? No traffic jams etc and everything seems to so much better. Qormi and Paola just to mention two areas were fully congested all day long caused mostly by buses trying to manoeuvre buses which are too long to take certain curves. So much needs to be reconsidered not least the new routes and the so many interchanges - impractical, useless and making journeys so much longer. (A journey from Paola to Blata l-Bajda, usually taking 15 minutes, took me 1hour 5 minutes because of the many detours). People will be rushing to use private transport more thanever

Alex Taylor

Jul 6th 2011, 00:02

OK. Join me in San Pawl tomorrow to try and get to Sliema. See how happy you are to wait for hours on end as bus after bus drives past you full.

T Smith

Jul 6th 2011, 16:15

@MaryJo Camenzuli

I agree with you, monday was a nightmare, i got to work 30 minutes late because of the bus service, but the past two days the buses have been on time. and i like Alex Taylor travel from st.pauls bay to sliema, first i need to get a bus to buigbba then out to sliema, i leave at 730 and arrive at 9, Alex it depends what time you leave st.pauls and what stop you stand at, i get the bus from near HSBC bank its never full there, and straight out to sliema afterward. Today and Tuesday i waited no longer than 15 minutes per bus which is very reasonable !!

Martin Attard

Jul 6th 2011, 18:49

Few people at bus stops? That's because I, for one, had to use my car again. This morning I waited for the 71 or 72 bus, I was on the stage at 7.10 up to 7.35, a bus finally arrived, and guess what, it was full up. During that time frame of 7.10 to 7.35 there should have been at least two buses.
Same as yesterday.
If you really think that this service is not working properly because of the 56 strikers, please think again.
I don't blame ARRIVA entirely, the slowness on wokrs on some major roads are also contibuting to traffic jams.

G Briffa

Jul 7th 2011, 08:07

ma hlist xejn mix xufiera antiki ghax hemmqedin mal arriva daqs kemm nista nghid jien ma tistax tghid int

Chris Vella

Jul 7th 2011, 15:59

do you work for arriva or what

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 5th 2011, 15:36


Sewwa qed tgħid, Ms Gili.

Jien użajt tal-linja l-ġodda kemm ilhom li bdew u kull darba
fuq il-bus ftit nies kienu jafu li m'hemmx għalfejn tmur il-Belt
biex tibdel minn rotta għal oħra.

Anke bdew joħorġu fare ta' €1.30 meta
b'€1.50 jistgħu jużaw is-servizz il-ġurnata kollha kemm iridu
(l-anzjani €0.50 biss).

L-Arriva bagħtet ħafna informazzjoni fid-djar
li jiena u xi ftit oħrajn qed inġorru magħna,
imma ħafna nies lanqas biss qraw l-informazzjoni.

Joqogħdu jistaqsu ħafna mistoqsijiet lid-driver
meta għandhom ir-risposti fil-leaflets,
u sadattant ta' warajhom jistennew.

L-ewwel ma ninfurmawx irwieħna,
imbagħad irridu nwaħħlu f'xi ħadd ieħor...

Jien m'għandix xi simpatija lejn dal-Gvern,
imma li hu ngħidu.
Is-sistema tajba ħafna - bħal ta' barra jew aħjar.

Fl-aħħar kien hawn xi ħadd kellu l-guts jeqred
l-arroganza tal-bus drivers l-antiki.

Issa nisperaw li s-sabutaġġ li għamlu meta
56 minnhom ma daħlux għax-xogħol apposta
jieqaf u s-sistema żgur taħdem aħjar.

L-uniku żball li għamlu Arriva hu li ma ndunawx
xi ħdura, lanżit u vendikazzjoni
għandhom id-drivers l-antiki.

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MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 5th 2011, 15:37


Did you notice how less noisy the roads are without the old buses?

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Dennis Calleja

Jul 5th 2011, 11:16

Before a trip from St Paul's Bay to University used to take me around 45 Minutes ! Today I arrived at work after spending around 1 hour 30 Minutes travelling on buses and another hour waiting and changing stages. In all a 45 minute journey was done in a whopping 2.5 Hours!! I use buses every day but simply cannot afford to waste all this time on public transport !! Hope the situation improves with time! Till now I am going to revert back to my car since I consider it to be more reliable!! I Hope that this evening's journey will be better and hopefully by midnight I would be at home!!!

Vanessa Walker

Jul 5th 2011, 14:12

Agreed a hundred and one per cent!!!

hugh jars

Jul 5th 2011, 10:19

When you start a new job are you Mr Perfect fom day 1? You people make me sck. You moaned about the old heaps polluting the air, the arrogant ....holes for drivers.......get a life

Mr Charles Muscat

Jul 5th 2011, 14:14

Believe it or not

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 5th 2011, 15:42


Sorry,
is-servizz illum hu aħjar u irħas minn qabel.

B'€1.50 (jew €6.50 fil-ġimgħa) tista' tmur fejn trid
mhux bħal qabel meta jien kelli naqbad erba' buses
(€2 għax bqija ma kienu jtuk qatt inkella kienu jimlewk 1cents).

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MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 5th 2011, 16:25


The two-hour ticket is impractical.

She should have bought a full day ticket for €1.50
(€0.50 if she's older than 60)
which entitles her to the return trip and any other trip
she might wish to make on that same day.

This was all explained in the leaflets
that Arriva sent to all households
but that no one seems to have read.

In any case, most public transport today is free
and I would be very surprised if she had to pay again.

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Alex Bugeja

Jul 5th 2011, 09:35

Sur Azzopardi Alla ha 7 t'ijiem biex halaq id dinja.....ejja natuhom naqra cans lil dawn in nies, jien personalment nahseb sar zball li sar kollox f'gurnata wahda u mhux fuq zmien itwal, kieku hallew ir rotot kif kienu u dahlu sewwieqa u xarabanks godda kienet tkun aktar 'smooth' il bidla u b'hekk kemm in nies u kemm is sewwieqa jibdew jidraw is sistema u wara jibda isir it tibdil tar rotot ftit ftit. Jien nahseb li ghar milli konna mhux se inkunu qatt, il quddiem biss stajna immorru.

Kevin Camilleri

Jul 5th 2011, 09:39

Any maltapost branch. You have to fill in a form.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 5th 2011, 15:46


I can see your being unlucky,
but please also see the point of (most) other people
who had to catch four buses daily
costing them €2 previously
and now only €1.50
(or less of they get a week/month/3months ticket).

You pay for use of the system,
not for the length of your ride.
In any system wher fixed costs are high
you pay for use.

If you take a trip by air,
a trip to London is cheaper than one to Rome!

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Mr Mario P. Sciberras

Jul 5th 2011, 09:38

You are welcome, Mr Buckles. Next year we will be dealing with some other "cock up" and all this will be forgotten

Edward Camilleri

Jul 4th 2011, 20:02

Well said mate that`s why we are called maltese gemgem because we are not happy with nothing we use to say desprecative words with the old buses now we want perfection from day one.

Emanuel Tabone

Jul 5th 2011, 08:26

Emanuel Tabone
ahjar taghlaq halqek kellu bzonn isir issa dan l-arrangament minn jaf kif tkun int meta jehdulek il hobza tal familja sur Vella.

Jeffrey Bonanno

Jul 4th 2011, 15:26

Mellieha to Sliema : old service = 30 mins. new service = 1hr. 30 mins. to 2 hrs.
Mellieha to Valletta : old service = 30-60 mins. new serive = 1hr. 30 mins. to 2hr.

What an improvement!

Dominic Watson

Jul 4th 2011, 01:44

Actually, despite spending alot of time waiting and alot of money on taxis. I do have to say that the bus journey was nice, the drivers were extremely polite. I was wondering where all the drama had disappeared... drivers hitting foreigners and shouting at people. I hope they're all fired and I hope they're condemned for leaving hundreds of people stranded.

David Bonnici

Jul 3rd 2011, 18:13

Kif dejjem tgergru. Mhux qed nghidlek li seww hekk pero, Ghatu daqxejn cans! Maqdar kemm trid jekk s servizz jibqa hekk wara 3 months ez!

Mr Matthew Galea

Jul 4th 2011, 09:58

u int tahseb li ser nghamel sajf shieh, manfx jek khux ser nbiqa fuq l-istage hux?

tider li ghandek karozza!!

Mark Heinrichs

Jul 3rd 2011, 18:00

Don't Maltese work and live in the tourist areas as well?

Having an "express route" and a "standard route" would solve the situation.

Mr Joshua Attard

Jul 3rd 2011, 21:53

I have not used the transport system in Germany even though I have visited, but When I went to the U.k and france .. I was always charged more than the people living there, because I had no student cards, pension cards etc... in many countries it is adopted, when the system is partially paid by the govt.

George ...

Jul 2nd 2011, 20:05

Most of the names of the roads and vilages on the bus stops are not correct. Why? I am sure a lot of people and tourist get confuse. This must be replacing as quickly as possible it a shame!!

George ...

Jul 2nd 2011, 20:09

Prosit Sur Emanuel Delia ghax xoghol siwi li qijat tamel fit transport publiku. Pagna gdida ghal Malta u Ghawdejx li ilna hafna nistennew. Proset ukoll minn hadem mieghik ukoll PROSET.

Mark Galea

Jul 3rd 2011, 16:40

Veru prosit ... irrisponda kwazi lil kulhadd barra lili. Wasal sal-kumment ta' qabli u waqaf. Imbaghad kompla hafna wara.

Mark Galea.

Tista twegibni sur Delia?

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 11:41

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. On the matter of costs, if you were using the old bus system to go to University by bus, you will find that the new system will save you money. Students are entitled to a student ticket (21 euro for 30 days or 60 euro for 90 days) which gives them unlimited access to public transport (except night services) whether to go to University and back or any other travel that you need to do. Even if you may need to change buses on your way to University, your costs don't go up as once purchased a ticket remains valid for its validity period.

Mr Stephen Farrugia

Jul 3rd 2011, 11:27

Mr Delia, Seriously, Do you know what you're saying?? I've seen your comments...they're all about money and brand new shiny buses... what about TIME?? what about problems and implications?? DO you know how long it takes for a bus to disembark with people? Especially people who are sick?? Who will pay us for that time that we spend? Are you gonna change the clock to be 25 hours per day? Unbelievable. Direct Buses to university and hospital should remain as PROMISED. Its not a problem of cost, Arriva took the tender to work in Malta, and they should accommodate OUR needs... not us accommodate THEIRS.

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 11:43

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. On how buses can negotiate their way through narrow streets, the new fleet (unlike the old one) has buses of different sizes, from the largest sized 18.5 metres that stick to larger roads, to the smallest sized 7m that are short enough to drive inside and around Valletta.

hugh jars

Jul 2nd 2011, 12:30

seems like everyone who doesn't live here wants the old crocks saved. we use them everyday, they are nothing but boneshaking, polluting heaps. Roll on Sunday, 21st century arrives in Malta!!!!!

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:47

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. There is indeed a direct bus between Marsaxlokk and Valletta in the new network. Route 81 is scheduled to run every 15 minutes. In addition to that Marsaxlokk will be served by route 119 which is a direct connection to Birżebbuġa and Marsaskala.

Mr Charles Falzon

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:59

Same here....the new buses are not going to pass any longer from where I live. To catch the bus I have to walk 20 minutes. Nilhaq nasal il belt!!!! Very surprised with the new routes :-))))

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 11:47

Thank you for your interest in the new transport services. The use of articles in Maltese town names (Tas-Sliema, Il-Ħamrun, Il-Mosta, L-Imsida, etc.) is a result of recent change in legislation on the proper naming of towns. This has been recommended by the National Council on the Maltese Language. The tarriffs are available on www.arriva.com.mt or on www.mitc.gov.mt and indeed residents of Malta, including non-Maltese citizens, benefit from resident discounts.

On the matter of salaries paid to drivers, this is a contractual matter between Arriva and its employees (as long as it complies with legislation of course) and we have no reason to believe it does not.

Clare Cassingena

Jul 2nd 2011, 11:56

@Sammut. I don't agree. Every other country use its village names in full and in its own language.

Prosit Mr Delia and Arriva.

Kenneth Harmsworth

Jul 2nd 2011, 13:23

@Emanuel Delia. Thank you for your patience and for answering all the queries (here and on various radio programmes). Well done for this positive decision. I also suggest to use the proper names for the interchanges: Ta' Qali (instead of Qali), Ħal Warda (not Warda) & Tal- Qroqq (not Qroqq). Keep up the good work. Your ministry is working a lot to modernise Malta.

The tariffs are on Arriva's website: www.arriva.com.mt (Tickets & Fares).

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:50

It should be pointed out that one feature of the new bus stop names is that except where they come in pairs just across from each other, a name given to a stop is not repeated anywhere else on the island. If it were so there would be a bus stop 'Valletta' in every street named 'Valletta Road' on the island, and there are many. Indeed there are bus stops in Malta called "Kulleġġ", "Kunvent" and "Indipendenza" and for the avoidance of confusion that name is unique to those bus stops and not repeated elsewhere.

Mark Mangion

Jul 2nd 2011, 11:35

@Emanuel Delia. I understand your point but the thing is that a name like "Sant'Antnin" should never be used as "Antnin"! Having a bus stop named "Sant'Antnin" or "S. Antnin" is still short and easier to remember. Even "Għar Dalam" instead of "Dalam"! Everyone knows (and says) "Għar Dalam".

Such thing happens in bigger countries and we are finding it difficult for Malta! It's an excuse.

Ronald Bowm\n

Jul 3rd 2011, 04:03

@Mr Delia. Alternative names could be one of: "Karmelitani" or the name of a nearby side street "Frangisk" or "Isuoard", or even "Girgor", it being the nearest bus stop to St. Gregory's Parish Church. If even these names have already been allocated to other bus stops, then you can at least resort to having "Exiles 1" and "Exiles 2", the same system used for the Salina Bay and Qroqq Bus stops.

hugh jars

Jul 2nd 2011, 12:20

arrogant, untidy, rude and drive dangerous!!!! sensible to keep them. you are obviously related to one of these 'drivers'. Get real!!

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:52

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. All buses in the new fleet are Euro V buses, which is a standard none of the buses in the old fleet got anywhere near. Two-thirds of the fleet is factory brand new and the rest has been or is being refurbished and converted to Euro V. From an every age of 35 years -- probably the oldest in Europe; the new fleet will have an average age of just over a year -- probably the youngest in the world.

Joe Fenech

Jul 2nd 2011, 10:07

Bendy Buses were taken off the London roads exported to Malta.

The government knew this would happen. Bendy Buses were deemed 'too cumbersome' for London, and the Maltese took them on! Pajjiz ta' l-Ighna, Moghoz ta' Bendu...!

http://news.coachbroker.co.uk/londons-bendy-buses-heading-to-malta-181000/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/leicestershire/8627135.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/malta/8606494/End-of-the-road-no-more-fares-for-Maltas-vintage-buses.html

Chris Spiteri

Jul 1st 2011, 23:11

Well said Mr. Caruana!! I have seen this bus driving around during the practise sessions for the new drivers. Well, it seems that the Maltese rules are not the same for everyone, cause when I got over my vehicle from the UK less than 2 years ago, I was clearly instructed that I cannot drive with such UK number plate... Arriva has tailor made rules or what??!!

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:54

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. As recently announced around 17 Euro V vehicles have been brought over the compliment the fleet to ensure timely delivery of service in spite of the Bisazza Street change that has lengthened some routes beyond the original planned schedules. These buses will no longer serve in Malta when the network and schedules are permanently adjusted. These buses are fully compliant with contract requirements except that they are not airconditioned and they do not carry signage and instructions in the Maltese language.

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:54

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. As recently announced around 17 Euro V vehicles have been brought over the compliment the fleet to ensure timely delivery of service in spite of the Bisazza Street change that has lengthened some routes beyond the original planned schedules. These buses will no longer serve in Malta when the network and schedules are permanently adjusted. These buses are fully compliant with contract requirements except that they are not airconditioned and they do not carry signage and instructions in the Maltese language.

hugh jars

Jul 2nd 2011, 12:34

cos it was used in england oddly enough!

hugh jars

Jul 2nd 2011, 12:35

why has the yellow heap got no number?????

Sandra Smith

Jul 2nd 2011, 13:39

Well done Mr Delia's ministry for using bilingual signs and instructions.

Arriva is surely a step in the right direction for our country.

Emanuel Delia

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:59

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Though no doubt Gozo is part of Malta, it is also an island with very specific disadvantages. In terms of public transport, its major disadvantages are that it is thinly populated for its size (it has the population of Birkirkara but is much larger) and it absorbs very seasonal demands by visitors at very specific times of year. For these reasons Government has decided to subsidise public transport in Gozo to the tune of 1.5 million euros a year which is the shortfall between what revenues it reasonable to expect the fare box in Gozo to attract and what it costs to keep a regular, year-round, island-wide service. If visitors to Gozo (including Maltese holiday-makers) make no contribution for their use of that service, the revenue gap would be wider and the subsidy needed would be higher. It was decided that the costs involved for -- to use your example -- a weekend (3 euro per person for unlimited travel within Gozo) is a proportionate and measured balance between subsidies and fares.

Mr Anthony Borg

Jul 2nd 2011, 17:09

Thank you Mr.Delia, for taking the time to respond.
Although it was not what I would have liked to hear, I understand your reasoning.
So, next time in Gozo, maybe we would skip that extra ice-cream to make up for the fare! :-)

Joe Fenech

Jul 2nd 2011, 09:58

I agree: no way should the government has accepted this. A name is a name and can't be tampered with. In London if it's Golders Green they don't write Green; if it's Tower Hamlets they don't write Hamlets. Il-Gahan Malta, miskin, puts up with everything!

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 1st 2011, 16:09


Simply because the name of a bus-stop is an indicator where to stop, not a place name.

Until now, we've had to describe where somebody had to go or stop either by asking the driver or noting some landmark.

Now we've progressed to a bus-stop name which is just one word for simplicity and efficiency.

Of course, being Maltese, rather than noting what a great improvement we have with a bus-stop name and info at the bus-stop about the exact times when buses arrive at that bus-stop, we engage in our undisputed national pastime - grumbling.

Mr Anthony Borg

Jul 1st 2011, 17:37

Mr. Micallef, be realistic. The bus-stops are NOT Billboards!
As Ms. Camenzuli has correctly stated, the short-form names are indicators not a street name.

Mr Peter Korsten

Jul 2nd 2011, 12:42

Yeah, now go and tell the French that Métro station names like 'Concorde' and 'Châtelet' are not at all clear.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 1st 2011, 16:13



The usual fetish for the past under the guise of 'identity'.

Why don't we wear faldettas?
Why don't we have karozzini for public transport?
That would give us great 'identity'.

Why should Arriva 'personalize' the buses?
What we really need is not colours and 'identity' but efficient and predictable transport.


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Mr Joe Borg

Jul 1st 2011, 17:17

@MaryJo Camenzuli

Why do we still have the karrozzin? Because we need them for transport?
No, because it is part of our history, and we did well to preserve them.

Why should we keep some of the old busses running on our street? Because we need them for transport?
No, because they are part of our history, and we should preserve them.

Tourists love the Maltese buses.

Our identity is the reason why tourists visit Malta, and we are losing it.

Do you have any idea what culture is?

Mr Joe Borg

Jul 1st 2011, 17:20

I'm with you John. SAVE THE MALTESE BUSES.

hugh jars

Jul 1st 2011, 21:08

No you are now in the 21st century. Why keep old bangers on the road polluting everywhere. Roll on Sunday if the whingers turn up!!!!! PS, PROBLEM WITH LONDON BUSES???

Ray Gatt

Jul 1st 2011, 12:18

Those are the Arriva colours. Why should they remind you of China.

Mark Galea

Jul 1st 2011, 14:20

I am really unlucky - up to the time I am writing this comment - 14:20, the last message replied by mr Delia was the one before mine ...

Peter Bowring

Jul 1st 2011, 16:29

A reply from a Xemxija bus user who will try to get to Valletta on time for work. I have written a new advertising campaign for Arriva using prefixes turning positives into negatives. We promise to provide you with an unreliable, inefficient, infrequent bus service with inappropriate bus times and journeys taking 50% longer than they used to. Please do not sell your car you will need it. Perhaps Mr Delia would like to reply to my observations.

Gianfrancesco Buttigieg

Jul 1st 2011, 09:10

Ronald - I might have misunderstood part of your comment but those are the official place names in Maltese. It isn't Marsa but Il-Marsa. We have gotten so used to dropping off part of the name (the "Il-" and the "Hal") that it looks odd, but that is very much the proper way of writing them.

See - Decizjonijiet 1, 2.1 (L-Akkademja tal-Malti)
http://www.akkademjatalmalti.com/filebank/documents/Decizjonijiet%201.pdf

Elaine Manduca

Jul 1st 2011, 09:36

That leaflet with bus routes for Mater Dei has other spelling mistakes. It seems that Arriva did not proofread it before distributing it to all households in Malta.

Emanuel Delia

Jul 1st 2011, 09:56

Thank you for your interest in the new transport system. I have elsewhere in this forum given reasons for the names of the bus stops and why they have been made the way they have. Clearly it would be illogical to name a bus stop in Sliema as 'Valletta' and presumably you have used this example merely to explain how bus stops should not be named rather than to point out how they have been. My reactions here are limited to the facts so I do not hope to argue well enough to persuade you to like them. Limitedly on the fact of whether there had been "consultation (example with local councils)", there indeed had been. Local Councils were given maps of the routes complete with stop names in April 2009 and some have commented in the subsequent months asking for changes that in their great majority where taken up. The public was also consulted. In October 2009 the routes were announced to the press and uploaded with maps and bus stops names on the Ministry website. Members of the public commented and made suggestions and many of these were taken up before the maps and routes were included in the tender and eventually the contract that is presently being implemented.

Ray Gatt

Jul 1st 2011, 12:22

Rather then critisize, would it not be better if you give some ideas as to what the names should be.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 1st 2011, 10:36


The old buses are very very nice... as long as we don't board them any longer.

Their place is in a museum, not carrying people around.

And there are those coaches that were imported in the early 80s with huge glass windows but not enough ventilation in summer, making us travel in a sauna.

Good riddance to old rubbish.

Finally, after more than 60 years, there is someone in authority who believes we - commuters - should be served with dignity and respect.

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Alfred Falzon

Jul 1st 2011, 14:06

@Mary Jo Camenzuli
I share most of your comments and at one point in time I even developed a deep dislike for them, but they belong whether we like it or not to Malta's transport history.
Turning over a new leaf is everybody's wish but let's hope that, once the teething problems are over (and there may be a few in the offing), the Maltese, as you say, will be "served with dignity and respect"!

Emanuel Delia

Jul 1st 2011, 06:54

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. You need not, positively should not, give way to a bus in the middle of a roundabout. A number of busy interchanges have road markings indicating a priority exit for buses. This means that when a bus is indicating its intention to exit such a bus stop, cars on the parallel carriage way should give way. Drivers will know when they need to do this from the clear markings on the road. Also private cars cannot drive on bus lanes. Indeed there are fines that apply if road signs and markings (these and any others) are ignored.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jul 1st 2011, 10:39

That's precisely the spirit of competition that is being fostered with this reform.

From ancient dirty rude monopolies... to competition and resultant better service.

That's the only way forward, not just for public transport.

Ray Gatt

Jul 1st 2011, 12:28

Well yes if you enjoy travelling like chicks in cages at about 80/90kms/hour. As our school kids do.

Emanuel Delia

Jul 1st 2011, 06:59

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. The point of bus lanes is for buses and other public transport vehicles to get to their destination quicker. It is by definition an incentive for people to use the bus rather than driver their cars to their destination. Unless expressly instructed to do so on site by a traffic policeman or similar authority, private cars are not allowed to use bus lanes even when this means waiting longer in traffic. Indeed there are applicable fines for not following this rule, as with any other traffic regulation.

Edmund Mifsud

Jun 30th 2011, 20:16

How come you are happy with a service that it is not yet in practice, like they say the proof of the pie is in the eating, not in the advertising or pictures.

Kenneth Harmsworth

Jun 30th 2011, 21:15

12 points to Gianfresco Buttigieg

Gianfrancesco Buttigieg

Jun 30th 2011, 19:52

No offense but it is your comment that doesn't make sense. If you go abroad in what language are they?

Plus it doesn't take a huge level of intelligence to figure out that Mosta and Il-Mosta are one and the same. Tourists aren't complete imbeciles.

However, having a bus stop called, say, "South Street" (or "South") and a Triq in-Nofsinhar would confuse them more (how would they know they're the same thing?) than having unity - a bus stop called Nofsinhar and a street called Triq in-Nofsinhar.

Clare Cassingena

Jun 30th 2011, 23:52

Oh come on.... it's high time to use our language. It's being done by Arriva - foreigners themselves!

They do not find it difficult as that's what you find when you go abroad. For them this is a standard practice and it's the same for our tourists. Arriva is leading by example. I travel to other countries and this is not big deal. In Poland, for instance, I did find my way without any hassle with names like Trzcińsko-Zdrój!

Our town names are much easier than that and our language is an official EU language.

Ray Gatt

Jul 1st 2011, 12:32

Are you for real???

Clare Cassingena

Jul 2nd 2011, 11:51

I would ask that to you! I'm sure there are others who experienced this. It's interesting - part of the fun when travelling in other countries. Go abroad and see for yourself.

Emanuel Delia

Jul 1st 2011, 07:02

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Your trip to Mosta will be a few minutes longer. The balance of this is that when your destination is not Mosta but, say, Rabat or Paola or a long list of other options previously only available to you once you got to Floriana or Valletta, are now available to you at the Buġibba interchange.

Dennis Zammit

Jun 30th 2011, 22:14

I made the same comment to Mr Delia on Radio 101 Live.

His answer was that in London there are only around 300 train stations and they use the full name but since in Malta we have over 1800 bus stops, they could not use more than one word.

VERY SILLY EXCUSE. Does Mr Delia think that people do not go abroad?????

In London, EVEN THE BUS STOPS have a full name such as Russel Square (even the Undergrund Station), Oxfrod Street, Baker Street, Covent Garden. Some of the bus stops even have extra descriptions such as 'Alight here for British Museum'.

So why do we compare ourselves with other countries, for Arriva with the UK but still mix up things and expect that EVERYONE is an IDIOT.

Mr Delia, please respect our intelligence(even minimal), even if we are not that fortunate to be bus transport experts like yourself and be in your position.

PS. Arriva in London still uses the London Transport colours; RED BUSES so why did Malta have to change to their green colour?

Andrew Holland

Jul 1st 2011, 13:26

They use a red livery in London because, like all TfL contracted operators, they are legally required to do so. The Mayor of London imposed this rule in order to preserve the red London bus image as an internationally recognised symbol of London.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 16:34

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Route 81 connects directly to Valletta in the new service.

Charles Sammut

Jun 30th 2011, 17:06

@ Emanuel Delia

i suggest that the villages/ destinations names on the new signs be reviewed.
I have seen for example one sign saying : "Ballut" why not "Balluta"
" il-Mosta" why not "Mosta"

good luck for 3rd July!

..and the beat goes on....and the beat goes on....

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 16:39

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service.

In reply to your question: 1. Route 125 joins a very busy Valletta-bound bus corridor already at the Fleur de Lys turning into Santa Venera. From anyone of these points people can interchange very quickly for onward travel to Valletta. Extending the line to Valletta would slow down its turnaround back between Guardamangia and Birkirkara and therefore lose some of the attractiveness of the line. Of course there are several ways into Valletta from Birkirkara (near the old rail-way station) so if you're departing from that point and intend to go to Valletta, you should go directly on routes 41, 42 and 43 rather than use 125 and interchange.

2. We have asked Arriva to consider distributing a schematic map as well. We will inform them of your suggestion.

3. Real time information on buses will be provided from almost all interchange points from Sunday and within a few days from all of them. This will be available on information screens being set up now. Real time information from all bus stops over SMS is due to be rolled out during the first year of the service.

4. That interchange is located close to the Roman Villa.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 16:41

Public transport regulations permit vintage Maltese buses (the ones with the very specific shape with the engine in front of the windscreen) to provide siteseeing services. Transport Malta informs that it has received expressions of interest from operators to run such services.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 12:33

Thank you for your interest in the new service. As a point of information the majority of the drivers that will start working this Sunday were not employed or did not work on the old bus service but were trained from scratch by the new operator over the past several months. Also discipline in the new service can be expected to be improve for a number of reasons, such as that: (1) drivers will no longer be self employed but will instead be employees of an employer who will lose business if staff provide bad service; (2) all buses are equipped with on board CCTV at all times to monitor among other things staff behaviour; and (3) subsidies compensating for lost business will be stopping in the new contract. Emanuel Delia, Transport Ministry.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 12:35


Not true. Some of them will be, but many are newly trained drivers.

And there is one big difference: at present, the drivers are owners.
With the new system, if any, they will be EMPLOYEES of a company
that has no less than SIX cameras on each bus.

Discipline can then be enforced by a company that responds.

Mr M Borg

Jun 30th 2011, 13:30

@ Emanuel Delia

Very good of you to read all the comments that are being written. Maybe you can find time to answer one question.

The old bus 63 has been repalced by Bus or route 32 ,when one sees the route this bus will take can you let us know how we Sliema residents are expected to make use of it?
Surely the bus will be full by the time it reaches the centre of Sliema,i.e Dingli Street .

This bus has 2 stops at Floriana, 2 stops at Pieta , 2 stops at Msida , 2 stops at University, 2 stops at Mater Dei, 9 stops at San Gwann , 3 stops at Kappara and 13 stops at Sliema. before going on to Valletta.

It reaches the centre Dingli Street ( which you named Huber on the bus stop ) after the 6 th Stop.

Can you let us Sliema residents know how we can ever be able to board this bus if it first does a trip round the island ? How could you include two important stops, University and Mater Dei on this route ?

The old 63 used to take 15-20 mins from Valletta , this new route is sure to take over an hour.

L SPITERI

Jun 30th 2011, 13:32

Kindly I would like to ask whether the route from Marsascala to Valletta is going to change from the present route shown on your website? All residents living next to St Thomas Bay, will have to walk down to Marsascala centre, ( next to the swings) to take a bus to Valletta. My mum, 67 years old, uses the bus 3 to 4 times a week and presently takes the bus from the bus stop called Marsascala Ashby. Can you imagine having to walk for half an hour in winter or in the heat of the summer just to take a bus from the centre of Marsascala!

Thanks Mr Delia for replying, at least there is someone showing interest in our issues.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 16:45

@ Mr M Borg. Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Bus 32 is scheduled to run every 10 minutes at peak times (between 7am and 7pm). The operator is contractually bound to ensure that it has enough capacity to meet demand and therefore have space for passengers waiting to board the bus at the time it is due to arrive. The operator can meet this demand in various ways. It can deploy more buses on routes that are busier at certain times; it can start services mid-point at the route to compliment buses that have started from the original point (say start empty with a 32 from Dingli Street if buses tend to fill up by the time they get there); or deploy spares in emergency situations. The job of Transport Malta will be to make sure this happens.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 16:47

@ Mr L Spiteri. Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Route 135 passes by St Thomas Bay and passengers wanting to travel to Valletta can then interchange at Marsaskala centre for their onward journey.

Ray Gatt

Jun 30th 2011, 13:05

Well said Mary Jo. Regarding parking on bus stops, I would suggest that bus drivers have a number to wardens and/or police and/ or tow truck service so that everytime they meet the problem, the said vehicle gets towed away. That's the only way people learn hopefully.

I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that some of the present bus owners and drivers have something up their sleeve to cause problems. I suggest authorities keep their eyes open day and night for such thugs.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 13:39

Ray Gatt,

You're so right. The old bus drivers are still using their old bullying tactics and we should expect the worst from them come Sunday and Monday.

I've heard that many of them indicated they would be working for Arriva but they are now saying they're not going to work for the new company.

Arriva will have a problem until it can train enough new drivers.

Still, we'll keep our fingers crossed. There will certainly be some teething problems. It does help that the service is starting in summer. That was an intelligent move.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 12:38

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. We are sorry you think the new bus stop names are ridiculous. The idea of even having a name on Malta's bus stops is new and may feel strange at first. The whole point is for people to be able to have a point of reference when they need to make a stop in a place they are not familiar with. If say a restaurant advertises to customers using the bus, they can give bus numbers as well as specific destinations to visitors know where to stop without even recognising any of the landmarks around. The names match information on maps as well as real time information on board buses. 1,818 bus stops had to be named for the first time and some mistakes were made. Obviously many can have an opinion of what a name can be given to a place but the effort has been to keep names short to avoid illegible clutter or crawls on maps and monitors. Names have often been lifted from nearby street names or landmarks and as much as some street names may appear strange sometimes, some bus stops names may need a little getting used to. Some bus stop names may also need changing so your input is very welcome. Emanuel Delia, Transport Ministry.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 12:39

They had already stated long ago that the new bus stop names will be just one word for simpicity and efficiency. It makes sense, especially after you've got used to them.

Was it better before when we had no names for bus stops and you couldn't ever explain where you were or where you had to stop?

Mr M Borg

Jun 30th 2011, 13:49

@ Emanuel Delia

While I understand that names on Bus Stops had to be kept short and that the " whole point was to provide people with a point of reference," what made you name the Bus Stop at Dingli Circus - Howard ?

Why name the Bus Stop at the top of Dingli Street --Huber ? The names given to the bus stops on the Sliema Front must be changed now not after 6 months.

If as you say tourists are told to stop near " the Tower " why should they be made to stop at " Il Fortizza " because of a bus stop which reads Torri .

Mr Antoine Vella

Jun 30th 2011, 16:16

I agree that the bus stops should have a name but why does it have to be only one word? What's worng with having San Vincenz instead of Vincenz, for example and why Dud instead of Għar id-dud?

Mark Mangion

Jun 30th 2011, 17:38

I agree with Antoine Vella - some one word names are really vague and hard to understand.

We all say Għar id-Dud and San Vincenz and those names should be used. It's ridicolous having Qali (instead of Ta' Qali) or Warda (for Hal Warda).

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 12:15

Well said, Mr Buttigieg.

It's clear most people commenting negatively here never used the old buses.

We who actually use the buses need a modern and efficent service, not misplaced nostalgia.

Jesse Galea

Jun 30th 2011, 12:57

...it's clear that whoever is commenting negatively is simply a grumpy old soul who sees everything dark and grey!!

Elaine Manduca

Jun 30th 2011, 17:49

Sure. Having bilingual signs is a very positive step in the right direction. Well done Arriva and MITC. Keep it up!

I work with a lot of tourists and they all enjoy reading our language on street signs. They do tell me and expect us to have more bilingual signs in Malta, as in other countries with more than one official language. They are always curious and love saying placenames in Maltese.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 13:43

Let's put the old buses
- together with their rude drivers -
in a museum and
KEEP THEM THERE FOR EVER.

On Sunday 3rd July 2011
it will be Freedom Day for people who have been
saddled for so many years
with a shoddy, dirty and rude old bus service.

Good riddance.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 12:11

Very very well said, Mr Espinal.

Mrs Krystle Micallef

Jun 30th 2011, 13:47

x ilsien taz-zokkor andek mr carlos espinal!! ma tridx tghid li int bniedem edukat hux tikteb dan il-kliem fuq haddiehor u titfa lil kulhadd f keffa wahda!
mela 1. it truckjiet li gejjin ha jkunu aktar nies bil wieqfa milli bilqeda allura ha jkunu aktar loaded
2. ha jkollom hinijiet xi jlahqu min post al iehor iridu jaslu 5 minuti allura ha jsuqu aktar,
3. tibzax fuq il-bus stop ha jieqfu ax jekk ikun em min irid jitla barra l-istage issa mhux ha jtellawh u l-anqas inizlu passiegieri
4. ghal bqija m andekx problema ax issa rounded issa ma jimportax ax thallas 1.50 flok 94c
j alla l-arriva (barranin) ikunu ta sodisfazzjoni ghalik

Carlos Espinal

Jun 30th 2011, 11:14

You got it!.

I used every day! I don't plan on stop using it even though I am considering buying a car soon.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 12:45

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. It should be clarified, though it will not be a consolation to you, that route decisions were taken by Transport Malta as regulator, not by Arriva that is obliged to at least operate the routes it is contracted for. (It can add routes if it wishes, but not reduce any without permission). The link from Mosta to Golden Bay is actually rather direct. From Mosta it proceeds straight to Mġarr and on to Golden Bay. And as you rightly point out there is another alternative way interchanging in Mellieħa which may prove just as quick. Interchange may be a relatively new concept for today's bus users since most of those who would have had to interchange in Valletta (and could do so) have already switched to car. One would have to try out the connections being provided as from Sunday. One may find that a more comfortable ride on a newer, air conditioned bus and an improved interchange (we just did up the interchange in Mosta along with another 22), chaning buses is not such a big deal after all. Not that a direct Buġibba-Golden Bay bus is in principle a bad idea. But it would have been far more necessary in the old network when the only alternative before that connection was provided, was having to go to Valletta first. We do appreciate your contribution however and will take it into account when further improvements will be considered. Emanuel Delia, Transport Ministry.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 12:16

Marelli, Mr Pace Gouder, ma tara xejn tajjeb inti?

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 12:49

Thank you for your interest in the new transport system. One thing we have done is ask the operator to have buses of different sizes operating on different routes according to passenger demand and the capacity of the infrastructure. Until Saturday we have basically a single size for all routes. For some routes that's too small and leads to the proverbial "full up hi!" remark when demand exceeds capacity. For some routes today's size is too big, which is why, for example, we had no buses inside Valletta until this Sunday. The new fleet ranges from the smallest buses that are 7 metres long and the biggest at 18.5 metres. This doesn't mean that double parking or reckless driving will not effect buses (and any large vehicle) more than any smaller car. But this change to our system is bound to make the problem you describe that little bit easier to deal with.
Manuel Delia - Transport Ministry.

Ray Gatt

Jun 30th 2011, 12:53

Take your car or get a taxi and you'll still be stuck behind the Karrozzin!!! LOL What ridiculous compalints some of you come up with. If you don't like it, don't use it. I live in Mellieha and to catch a bus I've been having to walk for about eight minutes for the past 14 years. So what? I actually enjoy it in the morning and it does me good even if sometimes I have to walk in the rain or the heat of the sun. In the rain I use a thing called umbrella (ever heard of it?) and wear a raincoat. In summer I know that I might get sweaty, but at least now I know that the Arriva buses are airconditioned, unlike the old, stuffy, fumed, smelly, noisy, buses and drivers (not all) we've had so far. Is there anything you don't complain about Mr. Perfect Pace Gouder, or do you spend all day and night thinking what to complain about next??? Maltese Gemgem.
PS. After all Arriva already said they will be looking into the routes again in November.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 12:56

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. Route 135 operates close to the area you describe and connects with bus 91 (that passes through Zabbar) at the Marsaskala stop (at the innermost part of the bay).

Ray Gatt

Jun 30th 2011, 12:39

Get walking and shed those extra pounds.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 12:57

Thank you for your interest in the new service. The connection you describe will be served by route 125.

MaryJo Camenzuli

Jun 30th 2011, 12:07

That route is NOT and Express route.

You refer to no. 201 which goes through Kirkop, Safi, Żurrieq, Siġġiewi, Dingli, Rabat and then Baħrija. So it's not just for Baħrija residents (who can stop at Rabat and take other buses) but also for all these villages that now have a direct link with the Airport and with the villages on the same route.

The Express routes from the Airport go elsewhere: Valletta, Ċirkewwa, St Julians and Buġibba. And what a good idea they are, I must say.

Emanuel Delia

Jun 30th 2011, 13:02

Thank you for your interest in the new transport service. The Airport is obviously a destination and a point of origin in and of itself but it will also now serve as a major interchange point providing people with travel options that previously did not exist. The bus you refer to (route 201) stops at a number of important tourist spots on the way to Baħrija (Blue Grotto, Ħaġar Qim, Limestone Heritage, Dingli Cliffs, Roman Villa among others). Therefore the fact that the Airport is frequently connected with places where tourists stay (Sliema, Buġibba, San Ġiljan, etc.) will mean that to go these points people can travel directly to the airport (or Rabat at the other end, also well connected to tourist hubs) and interchange to their final destination. From the point of view of the people of Baħrija, terminating this bus there means that compared with the four trips a day they have in today's service, they will now have hourly bus connections to Rabat all day every day from which to continue to their final destination at any time of day.