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Divorce not an option for religious marriages - Yes movement

Divorce is not an option for religious marriages, the Divorce Movement said this afternoon.

Addressing a news conference in front of the Cana Movement headquarters, movement head Deborah Schembri said the group wanted to make it clear that divorce would never be an option for religious marriages.

She pointed out that in the first quarter this year there were more civil than church marriages.

There are a lot of people, she said, who did not have anything to do with the church and they still got married. It was not fair to deprive these people of their civil rights.

Michael Falzon praised the work carried out by the Cana Movement, which, he said was filling a void in preparing young couples for marriage.

Such preparation should also be offered by the government, especially since more couples were opting to marry civilly.

Both Mr Falzon and Labour MP Evarist Bartolo said they were happily married and were sure they would not need divorce. However, they believed they should not deprive those who did of this right.

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Mr Alex Buds

May 21st 2011, 17:54

This has nothing to do with abortion. Do not try to muddy the issue and confuse people.

Roberta Ferrante

May 21st 2011, 08:39

No, it should not be an option for religious marriages too. All consenting couples who want to get married in Church know what they are getting into. It's no excuse. Of course, no marriages are all rosy, all have their ups and downs. Marriage in Church is a Sacrament and it must not be tempered with. Of course, if one doesn't like the Catholic rules, one can always opt for Civil marriage.

Ms Emma Xerri

May 21st 2011, 05:11

Which begs the question, what is the point of these marriage preparaton classes, to milk more money out of young couples?

Tha analogy of blaming the weather man for bad weather does not hold true in this instance, for Cana do not forecast, but supposedly provide a blueprint for a good marriage. Evidently Cana needs to go back to the drawing board.

Mr Richard Curmi

May 20th 2011, 23:25

Mr Brincat check your double negative because you are delivering the message that you do not want to deliver.

Christian Sciberras

May 21st 2011, 00:08

Mr M Borg - I have no interest in "throwing mud at the Curia", but let me point out a few facts for you;

- the local Curia is a far branch of the Vatican, it does things the Vatican wouldn't ever do
- what I said about the Curia getting the money is mainly a thing of the past (6 years or so)
- if you cannot acknowledge the above fact, then I've got my doubts on how much you know about Malta
- if you want proof, all brown-marble (Maltese type) quarries have been "donated" to the Curia through various means. We're talking about a huge area.
- paying priests for prayers as I mentioned beforehand is a common practice, I've witnessed this every Sunday for some 3 to 4 yours (during the time I've served as an altar server/boy)
- you should give me some credit considering I've been a (lesser) part of the Curia for some time

Mr Alex Buds

May 20th 2011, 20:42

I don't think anybody is out to make a million here...

Christian Sciberras

May 21st 2011, 00:12

Mr M Borg - My mistake.

However, I can't but remind you I'm not throwing mud, but describing a muddy fountain as it is.

If I wanted to be the least hypocrite, I'd say it's crystal white. But after all these years of disappointment, I can't find a single reason why I shouldn't shout out the plain truth.

George Lewis

May 20th 2011, 19:19

If you reckon that preparing oneself for a life long commitment is useless as you are saying I simply cannot see your logic.We need to be trained and informed for any type of job or whatever but not for such a noble act of love which brings with it many responsibilities especially where children are concerned.Do you agree ms.Xerri that strong families make a strong society?

Regarding the waste of money and time.What money,the few euros to cover expenses?How many freebies are you getting out of whatever you are interested in?Regarding time We always complain about certain things as time wasting yet we waste so much more on a hundred things and we do not complain.

Ms Xerri you have every right not to attend Cana courses but no right to impose on others your unfounded ideas.Cana has for the past 54 years prepared many couples for a sound marriage.Yes sound marriages are still around,With more preparation and commitment on the side of couples good marriages will prevail,

Ms Emma Xerri

May 21st 2011, 00:48

@George Lewis

What I am saying is that despite Cana Movement, the rate of marriage breakdown is the same in Malta as anywhere else. And where may I ask can one go to a school to teach one how to live life? Life happens despite our good intentions and a few weeks in the Cana movement will not a good marriage make.

Let us start from the beginning shall we, with parents spoiling rotten their children and bringing them everything under the sun that they desire, paid for schooling up to University level, helping them out with their expenses, such as cars and houses, well over the age when they should be functioning adults, you know the score. Now imagine two self-centred people of the opposite sex of the 'Me" generation getting married aand there you have a recipe for disaster when real life and life's pressures intrude in what was an otherwise fairytale existence.

This is one scenario (of the many other permutations that can result in a failed marriage, such as infidelity, physical, psychological and substance abuse , financial difficulties etc) that is having such a negative impact of family life. Of course I agree that a strong family is the foundation of a strong society, but with the consumer generation having bought in on the lie that the more things you have the happier you are, society has become one giant grab-for-all in a race to the bottom. Corporations run most families now and have stolen the children from the parents who are just there to fork out the money, through their relentless advertising campaigns on television and other media, advertising aimed at toddlers right up to young adults and the parent have no choice but to run out and by the latest gadgets, only to be replaced when the newer versions come in next week - just what the Capitalists ordered.

Going back to Cana, all married couples in Malta who marry in the Church have to attend this course, so the proof is in the pudding that it does not work, otherwise we wouldn't be faced with such a high percentage of marriage breakups. Whatsmore, it is kind of naive to expect a course of a few weeks to change a lifetime of bad habits or the character that a person is born with.

George Lewis

May 20th 2011, 20:15

Mr.Borg I agree with you.The handouts regarding Fr.Charles Vella's text have been pulled out of context on purpose.They are clinging to every straw that floats.I had on another occasion challenged the group to get in touch with Fr.Charles's to clarify what he said,but I do not believe they did for it does not suit them.

Can one imagine Fr.Charles,who 54 years ago set up the Cana movement and having prepared thousands of couples for a solid marriage speak against what he still believes in that is the sanctity of marriage?Can anyone imagine that having done such monumental and sterling work even up to this day accuse him of being against the stability of marriage?

Yes Mr.Borg who knows where their next show will be!

Ms Marthese Vella

May 20th 2011, 16:56

"All marriages, religious nor not, are indissoluble!"

I doubt whether a Muslim Imam or Protestant Pastor would agree on that.

Mr James Tyrrell

May 20th 2011, 17:12

"Remarriage after divorce = Cohabitation"

And being forced to live with someone outside of marriage after a seperation is what exactly?

Mr Daniel Schembri

May 20th 2011, 17:33

stop being repetitive.
it's making no effect.

Mark Galea

May 20th 2011, 16:24

Quote "they try to deprive her of her source of income"

How naive, Mr Mario P. Sciberras !
Dr Schembri will now be the most sought after lawyer in Malta after all that coverage on the media, irrespective of what the result of the referendum is. Other people may pay the price, but not she.

You have no idea of strategy, my friend.

Christian Sciberras

May 20th 2011, 16:13

Mr M Borg - Actually it is very credible.

People "voluntarily" pay priests to dedicate mass to the deceased - in other words, paying for one to get to heaven (does it even make sense?)

Needless to remind you the times when the Church paid lawyers and attorneys to suggest that people donate their property when writing their will/testament.


This is hardly a secret.

Even worse when seeing the Church resorting to 80's scare tactics to make people do its biddings. Putting 1 and 1 together, it's not unexpected they try to do the same thing again.

Keep in mind being realistic and seeing the Church for what it is isn't being against the Church. But not openly admitting to the Church's flaws (or calling anyone that does "heretic" or "demon follower") is completely unacceptable.

Mr Joseph Calleja

May 20th 2011, 16:29

I think Dr Sciberras touched a soft spot and he might be very correct in what he said. Money, Money, Money? What is your gain in all this?

Christian Sciberras

May 20th 2011, 17:16

Mr Joseph Calleja - First of sarcasm aside, I'd like to make it a point that I'm no doctor and I usually do not reply to personal insults, but I'll reply since you made a very fair point.

What's my gain in all of this? Lets put it in simple terms, millionaires aren't born out of countries like Kenya.

I came to the conclusion that if I want to get a fair share of money, I can't do it by stealing it from the country (when the country doesn't even have any).

If I want to get anywhere near a million, I must see to it that the country is progressing forward, whether I like it or not. Other people might not aim that far and still steal (such as the good old Curia).

Think of it like "personal gain with national-level positive side-effects".

Mr Joe Gatt

May 20th 2011, 15:55

@ Jo Camm

No one is obliging you to seek divorce, still by voting no, one will be imposing his will on others that may opt for divorce.

Live your life, but let others live theirs.

That is what democracy is all about, period

Mr George Calleja

May 20th 2011, 15:57

I agree with you that the same three 'preachers' have nothing else to say. They're having a daily press-conference talking the same hype all over again. They are attacking their aversaries hoping to gain their ambition. Leave the people alone to make a responsable decision. Malta should be proud that it has no divorce...and let's hope it will remain without it for years to come!

Ms Rebecca Bartolo

May 20th 2011, 16:12

Int bis-serjeta? Just stop and think about what you wrote ... if your neighbour was getting beat up , I think the only way you would show her love would be to get her away from the man doing this to her and give her another chance in life. Jahasra people need to think this over seriously before going ahead and voting ''No'' just because they are not in need of a divorce themselves.

Mr Joseph Calleja

May 20th 2011, 16:26

@ George m Calleja
It does not matter if Malta remains without divorce for years to come, because in years to come divorce will not be needed anymore because men and women will be cohabiting instead of marrying. Is that what you are looking forward too, for years to come?

Mr Jo Camm

May 20th 2011, 18:39

By voting yes you will be imposing your will on those who do not want divorce.

Divorce will not solve problems but create more.

Mr Joe Gatt

May 20th 2011, 19:51

@Mr Jo Camm

Divorce will follow separation by 4 years, when the marriage is long dead and gone.

So pls initiate a campaign against legal `Separation`

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