Girl, 15, pleads not guilty to attempted murder of 14-year-old
A 15-year-old girl from Valletta this afternoon pleaded not guilty to the attempted murder of a 14-year-old girl from Zebbug on Wednesday evening.
She was also charged with seriously injuring the girl and carrying a knife illegally.
The girl's 16-year-old sister and a 14-year-old cousin, both of Valletta pleaded not guilty to seriously injuring the victim. The 16-year-old is also charged with tampering of evidence and all three are charged with breaching public peace.
The victim was stabbed three times in the back in St Nicholas Street, Valletta following a fight over a boy.
The girl charged with the attempted murder, who is now pregnant with someone else's child, used to go out with the victim's boyfriend.
Lawyer Jose Herrera, who is appearing for the three girls together with Franco Debono, told the court there were serious social problems involving all three girls.
So deep rooted were these social problems that the 14-year-old girl's father had been a murder victim.
This girl was still at school. When asked what they did, her cousins replied that they helped their mother.
Dr Herrera said he was basing his defence on self-defence and pointed out that the 15-year-old girl had always carried a knife with her because she had been previously attacked by an Arab.
Magistrate Antonio Micallef Trigona told Dr Herrera that social problems were no excuse for carrying a knife on one's body.
He granted all three bail and placed them under a curfew. The 15-year-old's bail is against a personal guarantee of €2,000, that of the other two against a personal guarantee of €1,000.
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Mr Aaron Vella
May 14th 2011, 13:33
If the 14 year old victim was my daughter, Franco Debono would be defending me.
Michael Andrews
May 14th 2011, 16:06
Too right he would be. You're not alone there.
Ms Lucia Davies
May 15th 2011, 10:21
so her father was a murder victim,,, I lost my father at 14 I know it is different in natural circumstances, but I still went through all sorts of changes in my life and sometimes even rebellion,, but with the support of my family I turned ok.. these kids in these situations should be given more support by tha authorities if needed,, nothing excuses the fact they were armed and plunged a knife into somebody else..poor kid hope she is ok
Mr Oscar Smith
May 14th 2011, 05:23
What Do you expect?
Killing and Give you freedom?
Mr R Rizzo
May 14th 2011, 00:27
So we come to this point where there is no more line of what's right or wrong and every case we find some excuse to cloak a criminal with the hide of a victim. I happen to know the victim and she's a very positive and mature person for her age, involving herself into sports and social activities. Who would like to end up stabbed in the back - literally - just because you meet someone who happen to be an ex of someone with lack of social morality?
Society demands a boot camp for these youth with such problems... if they want to be part of society they have to integrate and follow the rules. Our laws have been stretched beyond imagination irrelevant whether it's because lawyers have become outstanding or because the system is allowing more loopholes.
Allowing three poor girls helping their mummy to be granted bail after attempting a 1st degree murder is laughable. We can all go out of our houses well armed and blame fear, couldn't we? What's more is that a knife can be concealed as to deceive people easily unlike carrying a hammer or a crowbar which can be noticed from a mile away.
I have trained martial arts and know what's self defence and what's a premeditated assault. If this girl carried a knife, and was accompanied by two other people, it shows she was already prepared to fight unlike the victim who happened to be on "foreign grounds" being from Zrebbug and all by herself. I publicly question Dr Herrera's intelligence as to whether stabbing someone in the back can ever be considered a self defence? It's a cowardly action, and I hope Dr Herrera has some decent social morality behind the ruthless lawyer's mask because this is not just about money of making a good name... but about an individual's life that has been put in threat, which if lost can never bring again.
As to what Dr Franco Debono said, let's agree that these three poor girls might not have had the best upbringing they could have wished for. A lot of things can be done to help people in this situation, there is YMCA who help a lot of youth, however from personal experience youngsters, especially in the harbour areas prefer organising clans, most of them ending up as criminals from young age, but let's stop here and move at a tangent. What about this playboy boyfriend who first impregnates this 15 year old, then goes out with this 14 year old victim. Do the police have his identity and if he's over 18, are they going to prosecute him for defiling multiple of minors? Or aren't our laws for everyone? And why don't they follow this 15 year old stabber into giving birth with an "unknown father" to reap money from our taxes because the government permits it.
Ms F Goodwin
May 13th 2011, 22:17
"Attacked by an Arab" - REALLY?
Times of Malta, your racist agenda is showing again. I don't care if she said it herself, she's an ignorant child, but you are supposed to be a reputable news source.
She had previously been attacked would probably do. Whatever the ethnicity of the (probably fictional) person who supposedly attacked her, the defence is simply that she claims she was attacked and was therefore afraid enough to carry a weapon. Is the "Arab" relevant to this story? Except of course in so far as you've found you always attract more readers to your pages when you play the race card?
Abigail Attard
May 15th 2011, 12:30
Racist agenda? Im sorry but i think i had missed the memo just because they said Arab its not racist now if they said any nasty description i would understand but a dark skin coloured arabic speaking individuall is that what u wanted them to write it as? As far as i know Arab is not racist its a way to describe from where an individuall who attacked someone while living on this island and not being Maltese...the news know its ment to be reported the way it was said...i dont mean to be rude but some of you people always attacking journalist here with nonsense...
Mr Denis Pace
May 13th 2011, 21:26
Social difficulties should not be mixed up with Moral character.
Mr G Mangion
May 13th 2011, 17:56
Ms Pauline Busuttil
Hu inti possibli ma tafx li il Gvern ghandu social workers li jahdmu fuq kasi bhal dawn ?
Pero naqbel li dawn is - social workers ghandom Ikunu Aktar efficjenti f' Xogholhom u ma jiddejqux jaghmlu xogholhom sew u bla Biza ta hadd, jekk iridu li naqsu min dawn it - Tragedji, Il - Gvern tal Gurnata ghandu Jaghti Poteri aktar lis - social workers ghax f' hafna Kazi tant isiru jafu l' xulxin li jigu .....
Mr Peter Korsten
May 13th 2011, 17:48
Something tells me that the all the indignant comments below come from people who live in considerably better neighbourhoods than any of the four girls in this story.
Mr Daniel Jones
May 13th 2011, 18:59
Peter, I grew up in a very poor neighbourhood in the UK, however, I have never stabbed anybody in the back because of some perceived slight.
These people need to be shown a firm hand by the courts, probably one that they were never given. In prison they can be taught the value of right and wrong and hopefully learn a useful trade or get some qualifications other than 'helping their mother'.
Mr Peter Korsten
May 13th 2011, 19:59
Daniel, in your experience then, was there a higher than usual incidence of violence in your neighbourhood, and did prison sentences make a difference to subsequent behaviour the perpetrators? I'm all for appropriate punishment, and attempted murder is no laughing matter, but I wonder if a harsh punishment is the best for everyone involved and society at large.
Mr Justin Grima
May 14th 2011, 08:50
Pete ryour comment does not justify an attempted murder. I've had a bad childhood myself but I never stabbed anybody in fights.
It seems to me that Franco Debono is doing quite well with attempted murder cases.........just say it's self defence and bam you get a Get Out Of Jail Card.
Mr Peter Korsten
May 14th 2011, 09:45
I'm not justifying attempted murder, and I'd appreciate it if you read a bit more carefully before commenting.
I am, though, wondering whether a harsh punishment, called for by so many people below, will do any good. And I certainly don't want my tax money wasted on a prison sentence just to appease the greater public, if it means that when this girl comes out of prison (supposing she goes there in the first place) will be a draw on society for the rest of her life.
Make an example... as if these girls read newspapers. What I would want is an APPROPRIATE punishment (presuming for a moment that she will indeed be found guilty) and the best efforts that, after this episode, she'll be a successful, tax-paying member of society: someone who contributes rather than takes. That's not going to happen if you chuck her in prison and leave it at that.
Ms Pauline Busuttil
May 13th 2011, 16:45
Il Gvern missu jaf b'dawn il kazijiet. Ghax ma jibghatx ghas-social workers li jahdmu fuq kasi gol Belt Valletta u jara il-kasi serji li hemm.
Il gvern irrid jaghmel hafna izjed minn dak li qed jaghmel u jekk ikun hemm bzonn dawn it-tfal ippoggijhom go home fejn ikun hemm nies li jkunu jistaw jghejnuhom.
nisperaw li ma nergawx nisimaw iktar bhal dan il-kas
Deo Catania
May 13th 2011, 14:51
Alla jbierek hadd ma jati kas dawn il-problemi f'dal-pajjiz, basta johorgu xeba qaddisin kontra d-divorzju, mid-dehra Kristu fuq divorzju biss kien tkellem ghax huma fuq hekk biss jitkelmu. Jekk minghalihom li f'Malta hawn biss familji perfetti bhal ma wrew fuq il-billboards sejrin zball ta u hafna familji (jekk tista issejhilhom hekk) ghalkemm ma humiex mifrudin xorta ghandhom inkwiet kbir, kemm bejn il-genituri kif ukoll ma' l-ulied pero l-aqwa li jghidu le ghad-divorzju, mill-bqija ma jinteressahomx.
Mr D Galea
May 13th 2011, 15:19
Billi nitkellmu favur id-divorzju ma jfissirx li ma hawnx diffikultajiet. Nitkellmu fuq id-divorzju, għax kull fejn daħal id-divorzju ma solviex problemi iżda aktar żdiedu.
U le kristu ma tkellimx fuq id-divorzju biss. Saret moda nfarfru r-responsabillta' tagħna għax "l-insara suppost jagħmul hekk u min jemmen suppost jagħmel hekk" ĦABIB ARA X'TISTA TAGĦMEL INT U MHUX X'JISTA JAGĦMEL ĦADDIEĦOR.
Mr David Schembri
May 13th 2011, 16:04
X ghandhom x jaqsmu kristu u d divorzju ma problemi socjali bhall dawn!? Jew skond int id divorzju isolvi l problmi socjali kollha?
Mr Joseph E Briffa
May 13th 2011, 17:55
@Deo Catania...nafu li int ma thobbx il-partit nazzjonalist...kull fejn tikteb turi bic-car li ghalik l-partit nazjonalista u x-xitan huma l-ikbar hbieb. Ma titlifx opportunita biex tiddenigra l-partit nazjonalista akkost li thallat kollox, kif ergajt qed taghmel issa. X'ghandu x'jaqsam dal-kas infelici mad-divorzju? U x'jista jaghmel l-istat biex kazi pjetuzi bhal-dawn ma jigrux? Jaqbad lit-tfal 'wild' u jitfaghhom fi stitut sakemm jaghlqu 18 il-sena? Dawn it-tfajliet qatt ma kisru l-ligi qabel milli jidher. Billi wahda ser ikollha tarbija m'ghamlitx xi reat. Dawn huma social cases u ma niddubitax li hemm numru mdaqqas ta' dawn il-karattri.
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Ms Lucia Davies
May 13th 2011, 21:43
Jien miniex kontra d divorzju pero tippruvawx t'bellaw izjed imzazen id divorzju mhux se jsolvi dawn il problemi. dawn huma parti mill problemi li gejjien mill liberta zejda li qed naghtu li tfal taghna inkella ma nkunux tal life.. tfal ta erbatax il sena m ghandhoms ikunu jigru barra f dawk il hinijiet. jien ma nistax ghaliha meta genituri jghidu ahna hbieb ta uliedna,,u biex nidru moderni nkabruhom qabel iz zmien.
Mr daniel lanzon
May 13th 2011, 14:35
mmm f dan il pajjiz vera bla sens tfal bi problemi socjali jithalew jigfu abbandunati minghar familja nghid prosett hafna lil magistrat Anthony micallef trigona talli tahom ic cans li forsi jibdlu hajjitom niespera li l-qorti tghin f din il kwistjoni ma nipqawx ileterati fuq fejn jithlu tfal taht l eta
thanks
Mrs J. F. Grech
May 13th 2011, 14:31
Am I missing something? These girls have allegedly attempted to murder someone and they are not being place into a secure custody situation? The judge may not think they are a threat but they will have no idea of the gravity of what they have allegedly done. They need to feel some level of the seriousness of their alleged actions and going home under curfew is a mockery. This is just a taste of what is to come in Malta if proper interventions in social situations are not taken - and proper consequences to behavior not applied.
Mr Giovanni Rizzo
May 13th 2011, 15:52
I agree with you 100% Mrs.J.F. Grech.Hemm bzonn nissikkaw ic-cintorin.
Ms maria aquilina
May 13th 2011, 14:18
Poor girls. I wonder what the future holds for them.Let us pray for all of them.
Mr James Farrugia
May 13th 2011, 14:55
Poor Girls??? Reap what you sow. 14/15 yr old girls shouldn't be carrying weapons around, if they have issues at home the state should look into it, as far as i'm aware under 16's are still the responsability of the parents, so where are their parenting skills?.
Lets get tough before it all gets out of hand.
Mr mark johnson
May 13th 2011, 16:03
Yes and thank the lord their future husbands won't be able to divorce them.
Ms Rhonda Balzan Bastow
May 14th 2011, 03:15
I think it already out of hand isn't it!!!
The times are so fast and furious...but under age girls stabbing is a harsh comment of youth culture in Malta even compared with other, larger, more industrial societies.
What are childrens services and church organisations doing to provide dropin services for young people that meets their needs? What are they also doing to provide parenting support for parents of teens in tihs day and age then?
http://www.stmichaelsblacktown.catholic.edu.au/student-support/emotional-wellbeing/emotional-wellbeing.aspx/family-relationships/getting-adolescents-involved-in-family-life.aspx
www.sectorconnect.org.au/.../FREST_Term_4_2010_-_WOLLONGONG.pdf
Mr Joseph Aquilina
May 13th 2011, 14:01
“Dr Herrera […] told the court there were serious social problems involving all three girls.”
In light of this, shouldn’t a responsible State take custody of the unborn child (once born) so that to avoid having this child grown up in a similar social environment? Or – as always – the not so responsible state will pump money to the mother (under one pretext or another) and ignore the potential problem!
Nadia Grech
May 13th 2011, 14:39
Well said, poor girl and baby!!!
Mr Aristide Galea
May 13th 2011, 16:31
Whilst iI share your views that these girls should recieve help by the state,I cannot excuse the fact that they were allegedly involved in an attempted murder, at least one of them. One was charged with tempering of evidence.
The victim was stabbed three times in her back. The probability of fact that the victim was stabbed in her back was because she was trying to get away from her aggressor.
The fact that they have social problems does not give them any excuse to attack this poor girl the way they allegedly did.
Dr.Herrera,I'm very sorry,but there is no excuse for such behaviour.If it was your daugther and she was attacked in the same manner,do you still reasone the same way?
Mr Joe Cordina
May 13th 2011, 13:47
So tragic at a tender age
Mr M Farrugia
May 13th 2011, 13:33
l l-avukat stess dawn iz-zaghzagh gejja minn ambjent fejn kien hemm u nikkwota "there were serious social problems involving all three girls.So deep rooted were these social problems that the 14-year-old girl's father had been a murder victim." Hemm bzonn li l-istat fejn hemm problemi bhal dawn jkompli jahdem sabiex itejjeb il-facilitajiet ezistenti sabiex jigu mejjuna. Insab aktar cert li la il-ligi tad-divrozju u lanqas dik tal-ko abitazzjoni mhux sejra isolvu dawn il-problemi, anzi ikabbruhom. Dawn iz-zaghzagh li jkunu gejja minn dan l-ambjent ghandhom bzonn ghajnuna kbira u mhux il-vot ta sittax il-sena.
Ms M Micallef
May 14th 2011, 06:33
Well said !!