Anti-divorce movement launches appeal
The anti-divorce movement - Zwieg bla divorzju - has launched a fund-raising campaign.
The movement said it does not receive any public funds and relies on donations from the people.
It said that donations may be made on SMS as follows:
Mumber 5061 8989 for donations of €6.99 of 5061 9227 for donations of €11.65.
One can also make donations by phone on 5160 2060 for a €10 donation or 5170 2070 to make a donation of €15.
Donations may also be deposited in the following accounts - HSBC 013233069001, BOV 40019811279 or
APS 20001035470
Those wishing to help the movement may contact it on 99 28 05 11 or 27 28 05 11.
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Mr Matthew Grima
Apr 28th 2011, 13:55
Following someone's footsteps are we?
Ms Maria Vella
Apr 28th 2011, 12:13
Seeing all the comments posted below raises one major concern - these people vote - the country's future depends on these people's vote....hmmmmm
Mrs SUE-ELLEN BUHAGIAR
Apr 28th 2011, 09:37
Hekk jonqos ukoll naghtu donazzjoni ghal anti divorce!!!! Nahseb il familji tal lum ghadom bizejjed spejjez u fejn jaghmluwom il flus.....
Ms D Galea
Apr 28th 2011, 14:27
Quite right. Save your pennies for when income tax and NI will go up to help subsidize the further drain on social services that will be required to finance the social messes left behind by some who will exercise their "right "for a "second chance at love" every four years or so.
Mr W Cassar
Apr 28th 2011, 15:53
@Ms D Galea
and do you think it is not happening NOW under the guise of separation. You don't need divorce to exercise your right for a second chance at love, its just makes it official official. Wake up!
Mrs P Cassar
Apr 27th 2011, 21:35
People should have the right to choose for themselves. If you belive that every word in the bible is true, you then most likely choose not to get divorced. But people who don't or who are of another faith should be able to divorce if their marriage has failed.
Marriage should be about love and not seen as an unbreakable contract.
Ray Briffa
Apr 27th 2011, 19:14
No thanks. I don`t wish to help the movement. Isn`t the Church`s assistance not more than enough?
Mr Joe Zammit
Apr 27th 2011, 16:31
BORG IN-NADUR: 17 ta' Novembru, 2010:
Uliedi, illejla tajtkom prova ċara. Iva wliedi, għalhekk Ibni Ġesù qed jibgħatni hawn, fuq dil-gżira. Għalhekk għażilt dil-familja kważi ħames snin ilu. Għalhekk ridt lil Angelik u lil Catherine. Iva wliedi, Ibni Ġesù ma riedx jara żwieġ imfarrak. Għalhekk ħames snin ilu bagħatni hawnhekk, nerġa’ ngħidilkom. Ġejt inħabbrilkom minn qabel x’se jseħħ fuq dil-gżira. Kien hawn min fehemni u oħrajn lanqas biss taw widen.
Ftit taż-żmien ieħor se jkollkom għażla f’idejkom intom stess. Oqogħdu attenti x’tagħżlu wliedi. Iġġibux il-gwaj fuqkom.
Fejnhom fil-familji l-imħabba, l-għaqda, il-maħfra, is-sinċerità u t-talb flimkien? Fejnhom? Għalhekk illum kulħadd qed ifarfar minn fuq spallejh mal-ewwel intopp li jinqala’.
Iva wliedi, il-qalb tiegħi u l-qalb ta’ Ibni Ġesù muġugħin minħabba fikom. Jiena muġugħa għax jiena omm li nħoss għalikom.
Akkost ta’ kollox uliedi, jiġri x’jiġri, ibqgħu għidu: “LE GHAD-DIVORZJU, LE GHAD-DIVORZJU!"
U għidu r-rużarju u ġiegħlu lil ħaddieħor jgħid ir-rużarju.
Grazzi talli smajtu s-sejħa tiegħi.
Mrs Lucia Vella Vella
Apr 27th 2011, 15:39
Flimkin ghal uliedna biex timxu mal-logo ghalfejn ma taghmlux pressure lil isqof halli jmexxi l-kaz ta dawk il- qassisin li allegatament babsu lit tfal halli affarijiet bhal dawn ma jergawx jigru dik al uliedna zgur
Ms M Mifsud
Apr 27th 2011, 19:01
Doesn't the church have enough money for that?
Joe Galea
Apr 27th 2011, 14:51
Money should be raised for the kids that have been abused by the preists!!!!!!
Mr Charles Falzon
Apr 27th 2011, 14:09
Mela hekk jonqos ukoll!!!! Mhux bizzejjed qed teqirdu gol knejjes. Forget it mate!!!!
Mr Raymond Ambrogio
Apr 27th 2011, 14:09
I'm going to abstain.
Mr Mario P. Sciberras
Apr 27th 2011, 13:34
Will they publish details of donations received? Does one need a permit to collect money from the public? Maybe they intend to give us a "xelin" if we vote yes. Has the Church contributed so far in money or kind?
Mr Criss Camilleri
Apr 27th 2011, 13:25
If only I had my cheque book handy. And, yes, 'GO TELL IT TO THE MARINES' As if you're not already being funded from our Taxes.
Mr Joseph Calleja
Apr 27th 2011, 13:16
How come this anti divorce movement never talks about " Zwieg bla divorzju - when it comes to annulment? How about Zwieg without annulment? And what about " Flimkien ghal uliedna " when it comes to Uliedna from annulments? Don't they care about these kids? ( These uliedna)? Maybe because annulments are fully recognized and very well organized by the church and the government. What about caring and worrying about children of broken homes? Or maybe this anti divorce movement does not believe that there are any of these in Malta. If you are anti divorce then you should be anti annulments. Cannot be anti one and not the other. Annulment is the answer or substitution for divorce by the church and the government of Malta. Annulment is the same as divorce but very few can afford it. Annulment dissolves a marriage just like a divorce does. It ignores the word of God “ What God put together, let no man put asunder ".Is this movement really worried about the children ( uliedna) or they are more intent of fighting divorce? If this movement is so worried about Uliedna from a divorce then they should also be worried about uliedna out of an annulment. How odd that they do not mention children of annulments? Annulment =Divorce. If you sanction annulment then you should also sanction divorce. So vote Yes on divorce. After all we are all children of God.
Mr M Vella***
Apr 27th 2011, 12:34
unbelievable! The DO GOODERS and HOLIER THAN THOUGH are collecting money ha ha ha, The no vote already has the advantage of an organized network like the church; they will get the votes of thousands of people who will never be affected by divorce like priests, friars, nuns, religious fundamentalists and elderly people who will easily be manipulated by the fear of hell and fire.
Next thing they will start selling indulgences to raise money for the no movement LOL.
Jason Borg
Apr 27th 2011, 13:11
Is-soltu bullying u tgħajjir.
David Caruana
Apr 27th 2011, 16:26
Bohoo Jason Borg!
It's called DISCUSSION! Dejjem bl-istess storja "bullying, tghajjir, etc, etc"
Grow up!
Jason Borg
Apr 27th 2011, 17:19
DO GOODERS...HOLIER THAN THOUGH (sic)....is this the way to discuss? I beg to differ.
Mr Andy Farrugia
Apr 28th 2011, 11:57
Hahahaha! David Caruana; who is complaining about "bullying" now? Seems as if some opinion poll is suggesting some rather unexpected trends!
Mr Patrick Bellia
Apr 27th 2011, 12:24
ma nahsibx li ghandkom bzonn donazzjonijiet ghaliex kull nhar ta hadd bil priedki kontra divorzju jigifieri reklam free of charge plus xi leaflet u jien jiddispjacini ma nistax naghtik ghaliex jien naqbel mad divorzju.
Mr edward ciantar
Apr 27th 2011, 13:09
already started. They are using Angelik as a front with The Blessed Virgin Mary statue weeping blood because of divorce. Everyone to his own judgement. But please...........
Victor Pulis
Apr 27th 2011, 12:15
Get ready to start receiving mail shots. Hopefully they'll have some nice pictures one can cut out and use!!
Mr Frederick Attard
Apr 27th 2011, 12:02
This is nothing more than proof that, as John Bundy said yesterday on OneTV, the biggest political parties in Malta are in this order:
1st. Maltese Church
2nd. PN/PL
3rd. AD
The YES to Divorce Movement needs presto to counter the Marketing Campaign of the NO's. Otherwise it is all going to go in vain.
David Caruana
Apr 27th 2011, 11:49
"Flimkien ghal uliedna"?!?!?
Divorce does not affect the rate of marriage breakups - FACT
Divorce imposes no threat to children - FACT
There are children (uliedna) suffering because they are born out of wedlock due to lack of a divorce law - FACT
The RC Church used to baptise such children (in shame) behind the altar - FACT
The MZBD is just an extension of the RC church, covered under a lay costume for the occasion - FACT
Therefore, the Moviment Zwieg Bla Divorzju, are not fighting for any children's rights since they are blatantly leaving out those children who with the help of a divorce law can have the family they wish for.
Mr K Pullicino
Apr 27th 2011, 13:25
It's so easy to write FACT after anything you say.
"divorce law can have the family they wish for"
And the previous families? Those they didn't wish for? Trial and error until it hopefully works?
Ms Christine Galea
Apr 27th 2011, 14:23
@ David Caruana
Why don’t you substantiate your facts? I can quote different sources which shed a different light upon your "FACTS".
“Divorce does not affect the rate of marriage breakups”
FACT: PETER LUNN - TONY FAHEY - CARMEL HANNAN, Family Figures, Family Dynamics and Family Types in Ireland 1986-2006, pg vii, state that: not only did marriage breakdowns in Ireland increase in the 90s, but more breakdowns in second relationships were also registered.
“Divorce imposes no threat to children”
FACT: PAUL R. AMATO, “The Impact of Family Formation Change on the Cognitive, Social, and Emotional Well-Being of the Next Generation”, in The Future of Children – Marriage and Child Well-Being, 15/2 (Fall 2005), pg. 75-96 state that: compared with other children, those who are reared by two biological parents, enjoy a higher standard of living, receive more affection, are emotionally closer to their parents and encounter less situations of stress.
“There are children (uliedna) suffering because they are born out of wedlock due to lack of a divorce law”.
FACT: Following the landmark decision delivered by the Maltese Constitutional Court (presided over by Judge Albert Magri) on 17 January 1997, in the case of Mario Buttigieg vs the Prime Minister, children born out of wedlock are no longer discriminated against.
“The RC Church used to baptise such children (in shame) behind the altar”.
FACT: Illegitmacy itself would not be a reason for the non-baptism of a child. There of course may be concerns as to the ability of the unmarried parents to raise the child in the Catholic Faith. This may have been the case in the 1917 Code of Canon Law but it is not so now.
“The MZBD is just an extension of the RC church, covered under a lay costume for the occasion”.
FACT: DAVID SCHEMBRI, Times of Malta, 12th January 2011:
“The movement is composed of individuals from a “very diverse” background, ranging from young university students and their lecturers to married people and people who experienced marital breakdown………Even though the Church has been vociferous in its opposition to divorce it had decided not to launch a centralised campaign, leaving a void where a strong anti-divorce front could have stood….The new movement, not is however “not religiously motivated”.
Jason Borg
Apr 27th 2011, 15:17
Pigs fly - FACT
David Caruana
Apr 27th 2011, 16:22
@ K Pullicino:
What if the first marriage did not bear any children while the second relationship did? Why do you want to keep such cases from being a family?
@ Christine Galea
“Divorce does not affect the rate of marriage breakups”
I repeat - in Malta, where no divorce laws exists, the rate of marriage breakdown increased as it has increased in Ireland, therefore showing that there is NO link between divorce and the rate of marriage breakdowns.
“Divorce imposes no threat to children”
The study you are quoting is talking about children coming out of BROKEN families - it's irrelevant if these families went through separation, annulment or divorce. Therefore I repeat, divorce imposes no threat to children (and I add to make you happy - any kind of separation does)
“There are children (uliedna) suffering because they are born out of wedlock due to lack of a divorce law”.
In the eyes of the law, yes, they are treated equally, but socially you know well that these children still carry a stigma.
“The RC Church used to baptise such children (in shame) behind the altar”.
I did not mention non-baptism - of course they would baptise them - they wouldn't risk losing a membership from their books. However these were baptised away from other children - stigmatising the children even if these same children had no fault in the matter.
“The MZBD is just an extension of the RC church, covered under a lay costume for the occasion”.
If you take an article from a journalist as fact, then I won't even bother to comment further.
Mr David Mercieca
Apr 27th 2011, 11:49
This movement is a fiasco.. it stands for nothing but selfishness.. They are distorting the truth to benefit their own beliefs.
Movements like this are impairing the judgement of the crowd by convincing them that if they vote yes, they are voting yes for divorce.
YOU ARE VOTING YES FOR THE CHOICE!
Mrs Antoinette Catania
Apr 27th 2011, 11:41
What are the funds to be used for? To issue more adverts against divorce or to support those stuck in a hopeless marriage, including abused women and children of relationships that have failed !
Mr Owen Grixti
Apr 27th 2011, 11:37
It is better to USE this money to help families with children who are suffering and need help or are in financial cresses and possible thinking about separation because of lack of communication cause they both work to cope with this life, instead of wasting more money on this campaign. That will be the true spirit of a Family that people would like to see, not these slogans.
Ms L VElla
Apr 27th 2011, 11:37
NOW you want the people's money?!?! Isnt it bad enough that you are ruining the chance of separated people to get a divorce an re-marry?
Incredible how selfish!
The anti-divorce may say no other - they prefer "pogguti" to people getting married again! Even the bishop wants a law for pogguti now! Read the pastoral letter!
One day WE WILL HAVE DIVORCE!
Mr Lawrence Andrews
Apr 27th 2011, 11:31
This movement is very well organized. It's so not christian to ask for money to promote a cause that will keep many people who can hardly pay their bills in their world of misery; Separated, co-habiting or worse still at home with their Catholic abusive husband or wife. How sad. I hope the members of this movement realize that what they are doing is so bad; Anyway these individuals all have enough of their own money to continue to finance their cause; why go to the crowds?!
Ms S Micallef
Apr 27th 2011, 11:11
What on earth are they raising money for?
Mr edward ciantar
Apr 27th 2011, 11:42
With you Charles. As the Maltese saying goes......'il-Bambin jipprovdi... :) Pathetic people imposing on others.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Apr 27th 2011, 10:52
If the members of this negative movement really belief in their cause they should put up their own money where their mouth is.
Mr Hamish Dempster
Apr 27th 2011, 11:18
I fully agree with you Charles. I cannot see why i have to pay for something which should be done by the movement itself. If they dont have the money, just too bad.
Fabien Calleja
Apr 27th 2011, 11:20
Laqas mejjet ma nati donazzjoni!
Mr W Cassar
Apr 27th 2011, 11:25
There is no need for this movement when there is the church.
Mr Tommy Vella
Apr 27th 2011, 19:47
Isn't that what every movement does, raise money for its activities? If you sympathise with the cause you donate, if you don't sympathise you don't donate. We live in a free country. I'm going to donate.