Anti-divorce message in new Żebbuġ billboard
The third anti-divorce billboard on the Żebbuġ parvis is based on a pastoral letter sent to priests about the bad effect of divorce on society.
An anti-divorce billboard, which the parish priest sees as a way of delivering a message to his congregation, is again on display at the Żebbuġ church parvis.
“We live in a free society and are not imposing anything... Why shouldn’t we give direction? Then people can decide for themselves. An informed conscience will allow people to make up their minds... And for those who are Catholic, it is important that the Church’s position is clear,” parish priest, Fr Daniel Cardona, said when contacted yesterday.
The billboard consists of a quotation from a letter the bishops sent to priests and reads: “The divorce mentality irreparably corrodes the bond of marriage and the introduction of divorce through civil law will always weaken the way we understand and experience everlasting marriage.”
This is the third time the parish has mounted an anti-divorce billboard. The previous two had stirred controversy because one said God did not want divorce and the other likened divorce to a disease.
Fr Cardona said the billboard now on display was merely meant to transmit a message to his congregation. “It is based on a pastoral letter sent to priests about the effect of divorce on society... I believe the billboard is a way of delivering a message. Some agree, others disagree,” he said, adding he felt it was his duty to pass on his message to his congregation.
“I am convinced that, apart from the religious argument, there is the effect on society and divorce will be detrimental to our country. As a citizen, I believe the introduction of divorce, in the circumstances of our country, will do more bad than good,” he said.
Asked if the billboard was meant to influence people’s vote, given the May 28 referendum on a divorce Bill now before Parliament, Fr Cardona said anyone who expressed an opinion in public, such as columnists, might influence the vote.
In January, a billboard that decried “the injection of the divorce disease” was removed from the church parvis within 24 hours. It featured a man, wearing a tie, injecting a freakish-looking youngster with a syringe that had divorce written on it while holding in the other hand a paper reading “Private Member’s Bill”, a clear reference to the divorce Bill presented by Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando, whose constituency includes Żebbuġ.
Last July, the parish displayed a billboard saying in large black letters: “Divorce: God doesn’t want it”. The Curia distanced itself from the matter. In the January incident, a Curia spokesman washed his hands of the parish’s “initiative”.
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Mr Giov DeMartino
Apr 26th 2011, 18:34
Kieku r-referendum sar fis-sajf tal-iva kienu jgibu izjed voti...Mill-irgiel, specjalment. Daqsdawk tfajliet, teenagers wicchom u daharhom xorta...."imlibbsin" bl-izjed mod meraviljuz...be in when you are out....be dressed when you are undressed....U zgur li jriduh id-divorzju. U mhux darba jiddivorzjaw, imma kull erbat ijiem. U bir-raghun.
Mr M Vella***
Apr 26th 2011, 19:12
Mr DeMartino ,this referendum is not only about divorce but also about separation of state and religion ,secularism is on it's way to prevail in this country, whether one like it or not. Malta has got to brake free from these Curia masters. We need a Liberal and truly free society which cannot be established until we break this link
RESIST OR SERVE!
Mr Saliba Francis
Apr 27th 2011, 09:46
@Mr M Vella.
NO, sir, this referendum is NOT about the separation of state from religion. It is the obvious truth that in Malta, laws are passed by freely elected members of parliament and the Church carries out its duty to teach what is right and wrong in the eyes of the Catholic religion, that happens to be the official religion of the republic. No one, neither the elected members of parliament, nor those electors who do not agree with the teachings of Christ's Church are under any compunction to vote according to the teachings of the Catholic faith - and you know that is the unvarnished truth. What you are really after, is NOT the separation of Church from State. You are after the suppression of the constitutional right and the duty of the Church to teach those who want to listen and to learn. You want to suppress the fundamental right to hold and express opinions different from yours and to suppress the fundamental right to practice the religion of one's choice. Be honest, please, and stop spouting rubbish.
Mr M Vella***
Apr 27th 2011, 11:58
@Mr Saliba Francis, Do not think all the people are imbeciles, they have a brain to think with and a pity for the ones who are under the manipulation of the Maltese Catholic Church like you.When are you going to understand that the more you try to shove religion down our throats, the more we will resist it!,your days of controlling people's minds are truly numbered.WANNE BE priests
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Mr Saliba Francis
Apr 27th 2011, 17:55
@Mr M Vella (Three Star)
No! I do not “think all the people are imbeciles”. You are the one presuming to judge me to be an inadequate, mentally challenged person, with no brain of his own and who is “under the manipulation of the Maltese Catholic Church”.
I believe that most of my fellow Maltese are intelligent enough to value their official state religion without any need of having it shoved down their throats. I also credit them with enough intelligence to dismiss your uncontrolled angry outburst and your rash prophecy regarding the future of Christianity.
Mr Giov DeMartino
Apr 27th 2011, 18:22
@ Mr Vella: You are simply wrong. This referendum is only about divorce and the church has absolutely nothing to do with it. We are a free country and the church has a right to give her opinion.. You have the right to vote yes and I have an equal right to vote no. But it seems as if we are a free country as long as we agree wioth what some people say. If we do not agree, then, the church is brought in.
Ms Emma Xerri
May 6th 2011, 14:40
@ Mr. Saliba Francis
While you and others like you are certainly not 'imbeciles' you are certainly under the power and control of the Church.
This is what 'indoctrination' is all about. As the Jesuits say, 'give me the boy and I will give you the man'. Indoctrination or brainwashing was practiced by the Communist state and other despotic regimes and is still being practiced by most religions and cults. to ensure adherence and compliance to their belief-systems, not matter how detrimental to the rights, freedoms and well being of the individual and society. And the sad part is, that no matter how intelligent and now many degrees they obtain from universities, these person, once they have been thus imprinted at a young age, can almost never get out from under these sets of beliefs, no matter how irrational and outrageous these beliefs are. It is a well-known fact that the Church is heavily into education, for there is were fertile and pliable young minds can be moulded.
And proof of how effective this indoctrination is the fact that these people never realise that they are being manipulated and as the English saying goes “cannot see the wood for the trees”.
Mark-anthony Fenech
Apr 26th 2011, 14:09
Although I am agnostic and totally in favour of the legislation of divorce, I have no problem with the Church having its say. We live in a democratic society and should act accordingly.
Mr Jack Vella
Apr 26th 2011, 12:39
Illuminati illuminanti - X'nahseb jien dwar id-divorzju (Jack Vella)
Thares fejn thares f'din id-dinja kollha nkwiet tirrejalizza li hemm hafna nies jobghodu n-nies, gnus kontra gnus, pajjizi kontra pajjizi u religjonijiet kontra religjonijiet. U l-poplu dejjem jispicca jizfen fin-nofs. Il-poplu li qatt ma jkun jaf tassew fejn qieghed ma' dawn in-nies li qeghdin fil-poter, li suppost jmexxuna. Kulhadd jipprova jifhem is-sitwazzjoni u kulhadd jipretendi li jifhem u li tieghu biss huwa tajjeb. Biss ma nindunawx li min qieghed fil-poter qieghed dejjem jistghana u qieghed dejjem b'xi mod jew iehor ikasbar dak li hu purament divin. Il-mod kif partiti politici qeghdin jimxu huwa wiehed lejali pjuttost lejn il-kredibilita u t-twemmin ta' partit u mhux il bzonn ta l-individwu illi imbaghad isir il-kotra.
Ghalija li jiena zaghzugh u li ghamilt zmien nghix barra minn xtutna nhoss li min qed jaghmel dan ser ikollu hafna aktar xi jwiegeb lil Alla, meta dan isejjahlu. Tghallimna fuq li tghallimna li aktar ma' l-Mulej itik, Hu aktar ser jistaqsik u aktar ma' wiehed jippretendi, aktar Hu ser jitlob minnek. Li dejjem pruvajt nifhem huwa dan. Il-ghala, l-boghod minn kull xorta ta' twemmin politiku jew religjuz, l'awtoritajiet dejjem ippruvaw izeffnu l-imhuh biex kull suggett jahraq jaghmlu minn kollox halli jinghata premura u minflok jghaqqad jiddividi lil poplu. Meta ahna suppost ninghaqdu qeghdin u mhux ninfirdu.
Il-lista tibda u mhux ser tispicca qatt. L-Interdett fis-sittinijiet. It-tpattija li sehhet wara miz-zewg nahat. It-tkissir tal-Kurja fl-1984. Il- qilla politika fil-manifestazzjonijiet li fl-ahhar waslet ghal qtil ingust fl-1986. L-introduzzjoni tal-Kunsilli Lokali fl-1993 li qatt ma kellu jkun politicizzat ghax min kwistoniijiet u gid lokali kollox jew kwazi, spicca mitfugh u mrembel biex fl-ahhar mill-ahhar minflok gawda ic-cittadin fil-lokal, gawda xi partit u min qed imexxih. Minflok sar il-gid komuni, ghaldaqstant sar hafna deni. Imbaghad kien hemm it-telfa tal-Elezzjoni tal-1998 fejn il-Partit Laburista tilef, manuvra li tista tghid kien hemm makkinarju u rivolta xejn genwina li habba l-punt u l-irgulija fuq kwistjoni parlamentari li qatt ma kella tohrog mil- bibien tal-Palazz, spiccat biex wasslet ghal elezzjoni ohra. U fl-ahhar id-dhul ta' Malta fl-Unjoni Ewropeja li spicca biex sahansitra qajjem lil mejtin mil-imwiet!!
U Int u jiena bhal mzazen, morna ncapcpu lil mexxeja taghna u niggieldu bejnietna. U dan kollu sewa li pajjiz tant ghax kull elezzjoni tiswa mijiet ta' eluf ta liri (dak iz-zmien Liri Maltin), bhal dak li qallu li mhux jien u int ridna inbatuhom. U le ma tarax, ridna ghal darb'ohra nuru il-punt. Imbaghad kien hemm elezzjonijiet ohra u kampanji u supost gwerer li dejjem spiccaw b'cin cin mil-ilpup nghag ghand wiehed mil-Cafeteria's li hemm il-Belt (tafu ghal liema qed nghid). Zjajar ta' Kapijiet ta' stat u il-missjunarji gewwa Ministeri li l-lista taghhom u l-beneficcji li jgawdu ma tispicca qatt.
U l-poplu jibqa jbati u jhallas it-taxxi.
Ghadda z-zmien u wasalna fl-2011.
U issa l-kwistjoni tad-divorzju. Ghal darb'ohra qeghdin naraw comeback's ta nies li qatt m'ghandhom kwiet, qeghdin naraw nies illi tant huma tal-punt li lanqas jafu x'qeghdin jghidu u qed naraw nies ohrajn li qeghdin jitkellmu fil-mohbi imma kliemhom qatt mhu ser jara ix-xemx tizreg mil-Lvant. Jien hekk kont. Sal-bierah. Ma ridtx inkun hekk aktar. Jehtieg li nitkellem. Hemm min qieghed igib l-iskuza ta' l-infern. Xi hadd iehor qal li l-Madonna qalet li hija kontra d-divorzju!! Ghax dehret Birzebbugia lil xi hadd li l-istatwa tieghu kellha gelgul tad-demm li kien maghmul min demmu stess u minn zejt ta l-ikel. Hemm xi hadd li qal li min qed jissawat ha jibqa jaqla u tant iehor min qed jipprovokah. Illum jiena nghidilkom, ifthu ghajnejkom. Alla qieghed hemm, imma qabel dahal id-divorzju Malta, il-Madonna kienet diga dehret gewwa Franza fl-1857 u gewwa il-Portugal fl-1917, postijiet li ilhom snin bid-divorjzu. U allura il-Madonna ma' widbitomx lil dawn???!!!. Jien mhux qed inxewwex jew qed nikkalunja. Jien qed nghid dak li hu minnu. U kliemi huwa kliem li ilu jinhema gewwa qalbi u qalb hafna ohrajn, Kliemi gej min qalbi u jiena responsabbli ghalih. Naf li ser ikun hemm min ser jaqbel u hafna ohrajn li mhux ser jaqblu. Imma l-fatt hu dak li hu u -verita hadd ma' jista jawwiga.
Jiena li ma narax sew (hawnhekk nitlob li ninghata risposti bhala cittadin Malti u persuna Kattolika) huwa li hawn hafna kontra hafna u kulhadd izeffen l'Alla fin-nofs. Allahares kellu jibda jaghmel payroll ta' kull min jipprova jirraprezentah!!! Li tirraprezentah ma fiha xejn hazin. Huwa l-mod kif taghmilha li jghodd. Alla huwa verita, u mir-rapprezentanti ghandha tohrog biss din!!!
Jiena nhobb lil Alla, imma naf fic-cert li Alla li tant jifhem lil uliedu jaf ukoll li f'sitwazzjonijiet difficli fejn mhux lakemm tghid li tahfer u tinsa xi tkun garrabt. Il-bniedem jista' jinkorpora dak li jahseb hu ma' dak li tghid ir-religjon li jhaddan. U r-religjon li jiena nhaddan tant hi suggetta ghal zbalji li hija immexxija minn bnedmin bhali u bhalek. Bnedmin li ukoll jiehdu l-izbalji. Ir-regolamenti ghandhom ikunu ghal kulhadd l-istess, xejn aktar u xejn anqas. Qabel mal-Knisja u l-Gvern u l-Oppozizzjoni johorgu 'all out' kontra jew favur saqsu lilkom infuskom din il-mistoqsija...
Jekk bniedem mizzewweg jew mara mizzewga ma tistax tikseb id- divorzju, allura ghalfejn il-qassis illi jzewweg tnejn u jiehu grazzja ma' mara waqt is-sacerdozju jista jinhall mill-istess weghda li jaghmel il-bniedem mizzewweg? Il-Qassis li huwa il-pont bejn Alla u l-bniedem?? Il-Qassis li l-weghda li jaghmel lil Kristu hija ekwivalenti ghal dik tal- hajja mizzewga, u ghal nies li huma mizzewga, anzi pjuttost sahansitra akbar ghax hu l-weghda jaghmilha diretta m'Alla, peress li huwa ir-rapprezentant u dak li jghaqqad il-bniedem ma' Alla.
Jien mhux qed nghid min ghandu jkun favur jew kontra, jien mhux qed nghid li jien naqbel jew le, jien qed nghid illi l-Knisja Kattolika Maltija ghandha taghti l-istess cans lil-nies mizzewga li z-zwieg taghhom ma hadimx,(mhux tibda tispara bl-addocc ovvja) l-istess ghazla illi tista tinkiseb minn qassis li wara snin twal jinduna li s-sacerdozju mhuwiex il-vokazzjoni u t-triq tieghu. Tant hu hekk, tant ir-regolamenti huma mghawgin, illi is-sacerdot, ghandu (wara li ma jibqax qassis) is-setgha li jezercita' xi qawwiet illi kienu tieghu fiz-zmien meta' kien qassis. Qawwiet li jinghataw b'mod uniku f'kazijiet ta' emergenza. Imma, biex nghidu kollox il-qassis ma jkun jista, (wara li ma jibqax) iqaddes jew iqarar.
Jiena kull ma rrid, li kulhadd f'din ic-cirkostanza jigi ittrattat l-istess, irrilevanti tal-kulur politiku tieghu. Ejja biss ma nergawx immorru lura ghaz-zmien l-interdett, ghax dak kif nafu ahna lkoll, kemm min hu Laburist u kemm min hu Nazzjonalist jew xi grupp iehor, li l-Knisja Kattolika ta' dak iz-zmien zbaljat bi kbir, tant li dak huwa it-tieni l-akbar att ta' misthija wara l-mishuta (mhux kollha) Inkizizzjoni ta' Malta.
J'Alla fit-28 ta' Mejju nigu illuminati mhux min statwi u santi, mhux minn twiddib ta' terremoti, mhux min kulur jew iehor, mhux min religjon jew ohra imma mill-qalb, li hija ggwidata purament mil-Mulej innifsu meta din thobb!! Ahna ilkoll cittadini Maltin (u jiena kburi). Ahna ilkoll ulied l-istess Alla u ghaldaqstant kemm id-drittijiet tal-bniedem u kif ukoll peress li ahna il-korp, il- gisem ta' Kristu, ilkoll ahwa, ghandu ikollna dejjem, l-istess cansijiet u l-istess opportunitajiet kemm mill-Knisja u kif ukoll mill-Awtorita li tkun qed tmexxina.
Hekk Alla jghini.
Jack Vella
25.IV.XI
Dan Jensen
Apr 26th 2011, 13:58
And if your partner wished to divorce you then it is her right to do so! Thinking anything else is idiotic.
Ms Emma Falzon
Apr 26th 2011, 22:11
Prosit, Sur Vella! Wahda mill-aktar 'posts' interessanti u ta' hsieb li qrajt fuq is-suggett.
Mr Fenech MD
Apr 25th 2011, 20:34
Why are those in favour of divorce always pointing out that we Catholics should not impose our belief on others and vote in favour of divorce?
I am not in favour of divorce. So if my spouse wishes to divorce me, am I not being forced to divorce as well? What about my belief?
So those who want to divorce will be imposing on their spouse if he/she does not want to divorce because he/she is Catholic.
Well?.....
Mr Guido Farrugia
Apr 25th 2011, 20:44
Well?..... The slogan is challenging ( dhul tad-divorzju permezz tal-ligi civili). That is sheer imposition, not catholic beliefs. What about my belief you ask..... What about mine Dr.?
Mr Jon Xuereb
Apr 25th 2011, 20:47
Raġunament bażwi u fqir għall-aħħar!
Jekk martek trid tiddivorzjak mhux sinjal li għax m'għadiex tħobbok?! Allura x'beħsiebek tagħmel? Tibqa' magħha mingħajr imħabba għax ma temminx fid-divorzju? U x'tagħmel? Iġġiegħel lilha tibqa' miegħek għax ma taqbilx mad-divorzju?!
Mhux qed ngħid li titlaq mal-ewwel intopp għax ħadd mhu se joqgħod ikisser żwieġ għall-gost u jekk hemm xi ħaġa li tista' titranġa dak li jkun nemmen li jkun lest li jipprova jekk verament iħobb lil persuna l-oħra!
Id-divorzju jagħtik l-opportunità li titlaq jekk mintx kuntent u maħbub u għalhekk jekk xejn id-divorzju huwa mezz ta' prova ta' mħabba li l-persuna qiegħda miegħek għax veru tridek u tħobbok u mhux għax ma tistax titlaq!
Victor Pulis
Apr 26th 2011, 16:17
Are you prepared to go on living with someone who dumped you for whatever reason? Perhaps you're happy to cut off your nose to spite your face and live in hell but not everyone is of the same opinion.
Mr J Abela
Apr 26th 2011, 22:18
@Jon - tiehu annullament siehbi. Dak l-unika sistema li tohrog bandiera bajda..
Mr Joe Zammit
Apr 25th 2011, 19:06
BORG IN-NADUR: 17 ta' Novembru, 2010:
Uliedi, illejla tajtkom prova ċara. Iva wliedi, għalhekk Ibni Ġesù qed jibgħatni hawn, fuq dil-gżira. Għalhekk għażilt dil-familja kważi ħames snin ilu. Għalhekk ridt lil Angelik u lil Catherine. Iva wliedi, Ibni Ġesù ma riedx jara żwieġ imfarrak. Għalhekk ħames snin ilu bagħatni hawnhekk, nerġa’ ngħidilkom. Ġejt inħabbrilkom minn qabel x’se jseħħ fuq dil-gżira. Kien hawn min fehemni u oħrajn lanqas biss taw widen.
Ftit taż-żmien ieħor se jkollkom għażla f’idejkom intom stess. Oqogħdu attenti x’tagħżlu wliedi. Iġġibux il-gwaj fuqkom.
Fejnhom fil-familji l-imħabba, l-għaqda, il-maħfra, is-sinċerità u t-talb flimkien? Fejnhom? Għalhekk illum kulħadd qed ifarfar minn fuq spallejh mal-ewwel intopp li jinqala’.
Iva wliedi, il-qalb tiegħi u l-qalb ta’ Ibni Ġesù muġugħin minħabba fikom. Jiena muġugħa għax jiena omm li nħoss għalikom.
Akkost ta’ kollox uliedi, jiġri x’jiġri, ibqgħu għidu: “LE GHAD-DIVORZJU, LE GHAD-DIVORZJU!"
U għidu r-rużarju u ġiegħlu lil ħaddieħor jgħid ir-rużarju.
Grazzi talli smajtu s-sejħa tiegħi.
Mrs Pauline Abela
Apr 26th 2011, 11:51
Inti jaqaw taghmel copy u paste kull meta jfettilek? Jekk trid li nies jaqblu mieghek, ghax ma tuzax argument logiku? X'hini r-raguni li l-annullament huwa accetat mill-knisja u d-divorzju m'huwiex? X'differenza jaghmel fuq it-tfal jekk il-genituri taghhom jiehdu annullament jew divorzju? X'tahseb li jippreferu t-tfal? Li lejl u nhar jisimghu argumenti serji bejn il-genituri taghhom jew li jghixu fil-paci daqqa ma' l-omm u daqqa mal-missier? Jiddispjacini nghidlek illi dak-li qed tghid int ma jaghmilx sens. Alla tak mohh biex thaddmu u tohrog bir-ragunijiet tieghek, mhux biex terga tirrepeti dak li blajt minghand haddiehor.
Ms G Schembri
Apr 26th 2011, 13:41
I don't believe our Lady is talking to Angelik, as if God is going to send his mother to talk to us against divorce. I don't believe this because we have worse things in Malta, which hurt God much more than the introduction of divorce.
Where was Angelik when paedophiles were being put in charge of children. I am sure that Jesus Christ and Our Lady would prefere to put a stop to this great sin, rather than divorce. I will only believe Angelik if he said that Our Lady asked us to stop this injustice.
The same goes to those so called Christians who used the procession of Our Lady Of Sorrows, in the fight against the introduction of divorce. I have never heard these same people speak out against paedophiles.
I suggest we leave the church out of this. The introduction of divorce will not weaken the church, only the interference of the church in politics will weaken it.
Mr Charles Falzon
Apr 26th 2011, 15:41
Hemm xi flixkun zejt!!!!! Halluna tridux!!!!
Mr Jack Vella
Apr 26th 2011, 19:26
Nixtieq inkun naf ghalfejn in-nies li jmorru hemm huma kollha minn naha ta' fuq. Mur saqsi Birzebbugia, lil min jaf sewwa l-istorja u ma' jippruvax idawwara u tkun taf il-verita. Min ma'ghndux x'jahbi jipprova jxandar il-verita anke jekk din tinkludi ir-ricetta sigrieta HAHAHA (li jkun ghamel hu b'demmu stess) u li giet xjentifikament michuda li kien xi miraklu u jibqa ma jghid xejn!!! Ifthu ghajnejkom ghal min qed jitmejjel bikom!!! Il-Madonna l-imhabba taghna u l-ghaqda ghandha bzonn u mhux min jipprova jiddiehak b'haddiehor u taparsi juri messag bazwi bhal dan t'hawn fuq!!!
U saqsu lilkom infuskom hbieb, ix-xewk ta' Borg in-Nadur min fejn johrog mill-halq, jew mill-ilsien kiefer ta' nies bhal dawn li hlief gideb ma jghidux???
A. Borg
Apr 25th 2011, 18:59
Bid-divorzju u minghajru min kellu jitlaq lil mara xorta telaqgha u minn kellu jitlaq lir-ragel xorta telqithu. Min ried jghix ma ohra hekk ghamel u min ried jghix ma iehor hekk ghamlet. Hadd ma stenna id-divorzju u lanqas ha jistennieh jghaddi u ma jghddiex mir-referndum.
Jekk ma jghddiex nibqghu pajjiz tal-pogguti u ingarzati dejjem imma minghajr id-divorzju ghax ahna pajjiz kattoliku.
Mr Robert Cuschieri
Apr 26th 2011, 09:23
anke il-qtil minn dejjem kien u jibqa l-istess ghas serq u il-hazen kollu...mela nehhi il-ligijiet kollha ghax xorta se jibqaw jigu miksura. proset siehbi keep it up :)#
Mr Mario P. Sciberras
Apr 25th 2011, 18:14
xi jmiss issa....Sfafar u qniepen.
1930's, 1960's now 2011.
When will they learn.
Mr J Abela
Apr 26th 2011, 22:15
illum il-gurnata jahdmu b'sistemi moderni: viva l-media..
Mr Carmel (Nenu) Aquilina
Apr 25th 2011, 16:43
Prosit Sur Arċipriet, kull kattoliku bħall-Arċipriet ta' Ħaż-Żwbbuġ għandu jagħmel, ma jibżgħax, u b'kull mod possibli jwissi u jgħallem lill-parruċċani tiegħu minn kull ħsara li tkun tista issirlu!
Li titkellem u tiddefendi l-pjan ta' Alla huwa obbligu ta' kull Monsinjur, kull Arċipriet, kappillan, Saċerdot, patri, politiku Malti nisrani u kull nisrani Malti u Għawdxi!
LArċiprieti u l-kappillani kollha ta' Malta u Għawdex għandhom jieħdu l-inizjattiva ta' l-Arċipriet ta' Ħaż-Żebbuġ bħala eżempju kif għandhom jinfurmaw u jedukaw lill-poplu t'Alla li qed jieħdu ħsieb meta dan dan ikun f'periklu SERJU TA'FIDI FIL-PJAN TA' ALLA LI ĦALAQNA!
Mr Joe Zammit
Apr 25th 2011, 15:53
The great majority of PL supporters are against divorce.
The great majority of PN supporters are against divorce.
The great majority of Maltese and Gozitans are against divorce.
All these majorities are positive people: in favour of the indissolubility of marriage.
Join in the battle between God and the devil! Fight the good fight! The victory is ours, it's already guaranteed!
Mr Joseph Lungaro
Apr 26th 2011, 09:56
lololol Mate your Jokes are Hilarious!
Mr M Borg
Apr 25th 2011, 14:00
Well done. Fr. Cardona is just doing his mission, which is to teach the words of God and of the Church to one an all.
There is nothing wrong with the displayed Billbord., ater all it only reaffirms part of the pastoral letter sent to priest which dealt with the bad effects of divorce on society.
@ Mario gellel
Being in the EU does not mean that we have to turn our back on religion. We were Catholic before we entered why should we change because we joined ? Do you know of an EU religion, up to now I have not heard of one, maybe you know better ?
Mr Joe Zammit
Apr 25th 2011, 13:18
Remarriage after divorce can easily be described as another form of cohabitation. In cohabitation there is no bond. Divorce points to no bond because when they want the couple can for some reason or another get a divorce. Divorce opens the way to literally another form of cohabitation.
Marriage and only marriage is serious and beneficial to every human society. The two characteristics of marriage are UNITY and INDISSOLUBILITY. Marriage is for ever.
No voter, no MP can vote in favour of divorce without sinning seriously against God. Divorce is a grave sin and voting for divorce is equally a grave sin that separates the offender from God and puts them on the path to hell.
Join in the battle between God and the devil! Fight the good fight! The victory is ours, it's already guaranteed!
Ms D Galea
Apr 25th 2011, 12:30
The REAL news would be if the church was pro-divorce and on the church parvis was a pro-divorce slogan.
Mr mario gellel
Apr 25th 2011, 12:09
@cittadin
why were we brainwashed to enter the EU???????
And now ?????
IVA GHAL EU, IVA GHAL KOLLOX LI HEMM FL-EU.
Mr Joe Xuereb
Apr 25th 2011, 12:05
It is interesting that the Curia is distancing itself from this 'mess'. I wonder, is it because it knows it's a mess and doesn't want to make it messier?
We say trouble in a marriage starts in the 'bedroom'. This because MONOGAMY IS NOT A FACT OF LIFE BUT AN ASPIRATION and interestingly, god made it so to ensure healthy propagation of the species.* Then came the free will nonsense. Now good catholics in pure marriages can aspire to monogamy because they believe in the reward to come. But what about the rest? Civil divorce, being the daughter of reason, addresses this problem up to a point. MONOGAMY IS NOT A FACT OF LIFE is here to stay so there's no such thing as a perfect solution. It is called the Human Condition. We have to deal with it as best we can. What a sad lot we are, what a predicament we have to live through. All endorsed by god of course. But we have freewill. Big deal!
Regarding the 'suffer the little children' annulment is equally damaging I would have thought.
@Ms Yaz Tabone. I'm with you. Just teach your son right from wrong, 'to do unto others what he would have done to himself'. He doesn't need a strangling label round his little neck for life to understand this. Let him see you be kind to others and dialogue with him, teach him the art of communication. And he will be fine.
* Being mindful that abuse of one's sexual freedoms, including the abuse of one's right to divorce, comes at a hefty price. I am talking about disease, infections, undermining of one's mental-health. I am certainly not advocating a 'free-for-all'. People need education (ie information). Threatening them with 'sticks and stones and hellfire, or promising vain fantasies' is not an option because, like anything built on conjecture, it backfires something terrible. And it is less than honest in any case.
Ms Yaz Tabone
Apr 26th 2011, 10:20
i don't want him to end up like most brainwashed 'maltese christians'.. i want him to know from right n wrong n not wish harm onto others. i want him to be strong enough to fight for what he believes in, not be a coward like these 'maltese christians'. i want him to believe in human rights n equality, not be selfish n cruel, just like these 'maltese christians'
my son will be raised with good values, he will not be a puppet.. he will be strong enough to make his own decisions :)
Kevin Camilleri
Apr 25th 2011, 11:47
At the end of the day, it is the church's duties to preach what Christ said for those who want to hear the message and to try to convince even those who don't want to hear about Christ! This is the church's mission whether one likes it or not, the church is doing its duties. Let's not attack the church because it is doing its duties!!
Now it's up to the individual's conscience whether to vote in favor or not.
Ms Emma Xerri
Apr 25th 2011, 14:02
The Church's duty does not extend to interference in the secular field and the imposition of its views on lay society by means of such tactics and prolonged campaigns against divorce such as is going on in Malta. In fact, when in comes to divorce, I do not know anywhere else in the world where the Church has resorted to this kind of behaviour except in Malta, where the Church must pressume that the Maltese are chattels of the Curia and intellectually stunted.
Tony Fava
Apr 25th 2011, 11:42
Sur Kappillan. vera gibtu il-Knisja ta' Kristu bhal film ta' Walt Disney b'dak il-billboard. Ma gbajtux toqtlu Indjani fis-South America. Li anke il-Papa talba skuza. Ma gbajtux tikkorompu tfal u minorenni f'kull pajjiz tad-dinja li anke ghal darba ohra il-Papa talab skuza. Ma gbajtux theddu bid-dnub il-mejjet u tdifnu in-nies fil-mizbla f'Malta minhabba twemmin politiku u mhux religjuz. U ghal darba ohra kellu jkun l-Arcisqof li talab skuza.
Issa tridu tindahlu kif wiehed ghandu jghix. Mhux bizzejjed li l-Arcisqof li ghanda qed jbezza bil-babaw. Dan halli la jghaddu ftit snin ohra jerga jkollna skuza ohra minn naha tal-Knisja ? Fuq kollox id-divorzju diga qieghed hawn. Allura intkom messkom tehduha ma Gonzipn ghax ghalaq ghajnejn ta' ipokrita li u halla kollox ghaddej. Issa troppo tardi.
Paul Konti
Apr 25th 2011, 17:51
Sur Fava, int ghandek kull dritt tghid l-oppinjoni tieghek. Pero, ma tantx jirrifletti tajjeb fuqek il-mod kif ktibt. Ma nhosx li ghandek titfa l-hmieg biex taghti aktar sahha lill-argument tieghek. Tantx tkun dakshekk pront biex titfa l-ewwel gebla habib. Kullhadd ghandu xi jxomm!
Hemm hafna u hafna qassisin u religjuzi tajbin. Ahseb ftit u tara kif ghandi ragun.
P. Vincenti
Apr 25th 2011, 11:40
There is nothing wrong with this. We do live in a pluralistic society don't we?
Why is the Times making a fuss? . One would think that this paper is taking a implicit pro-divorce stand. But then again that is just me being silly I suppose.
Nicholas Balzan
Apr 25th 2011, 11:39
I totally agree with the very first Billboard the Archpriest put up: ID-DIVORZJU ALLA MA JRIDUX. There is no beating about the bush. Arguments like "everybody is doing it" or "has been doing it" do not make what is intrinsically evil good.
God loves man, and gave him both liberty and the guides to be able to use this liberty for his own (and others') good. When I abuse my liberty and commit what is evil, it will eventually hurt me (and others too). My freedom is a gift, and I should use gifts for my own and others' good.
Besides, When Jesus was on earth he promoted LOVE, and we will be judged upon it. Unfortunately, there is too much promotion of EGOISM – putting oneself first is simply the opposite of true love.
Mr JOSEPH AGIUS
Apr 25th 2011, 11:38
Is there anyone who still really believes the local Curia does not want to make of this issue a crusade?
D. A . Agius
Apr 25th 2011, 11:30
Let's look at this issue in the mirror.
If our government passed a law to ban any visible religious activity, would it not be a great crime? Imposition of one's beliefs upon another.
The same the other way round. Church (and fanatics) should not impose on the civil society its faith.
Unfortunately the government in place is simply one torn between Religio et Patria. Profess to uphold religious interests while at the same time governing a lay state.
If it was responsible, divorce laws would have been in, as the society in Malta has been needing this legislation for generations.
Mr Joe Zammit
Apr 25th 2011, 11:06
The Catholic Church is duty bound to teach the people of Malta and Gozo what Christ has taught her. Christ spoke clearly about divorce. Divorce is evil and we must never resort to divorce. The Catholic Church prohibits divorce because divorce is a grave sin against God.
Besides, the Catholic Church has the right to use all moral means to spread her teaching among us. Billboards are no exception. Teaching the Word of God can take diverse forms from the internet to newspapers, from television to the public square.
Christ commanded his Catholic Church to go and preach to all nations by word and example, for the salvation of souls. The Church will continue to echo far and wide Christ teaching and will continue to preach in favour of the indissolubility of marriage and against the evil and injustice of divorce.
Join in the battle between God and the devil! Fight the good fight! The victory is ours, it's already guaranteed!
Victor Pulis
Apr 25th 2011, 10:41
I am eager to see a billboard against annullment and the effect it leaves on children and separation which goes against the teachings of Jesus regarding 'putting asunder' separating that which God has joined
Michael Pule
Apr 25th 2011, 10:36
Prosit Fr. Daniel Cardona. You have the true well-being of our/future marriages at heart.
Mr Lawrence Fenech
Apr 25th 2011, 10:28
Ibghaw serjrin hekk ghax qed tghogbuni.
Mr Paul Xuereb
Apr 25th 2011, 10:19
I fully agree with what the Parish priest is saying. The church is NOT judging but giving direction, as is her duty. Whoever disagrees with the church is completely free to do so.
Mr Carmel Garcia
Apr 25th 2011, 11:01
I agree with you Mr. Xuereb. The church has the right to teach her members and believers. We are in a free society, so like those in favour of divorce, other societies, and this include the Catholic Church, has all the right to speak, and this is not like the death sin of the sixties.
Matthew Chapter 19:
3 ¶ The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Gen. 1.27 ; 5.2
5 and said,
For this cause shall a man leave father and mother,
and shall cleave to his wife:
and they twain shall be one flesh Gen. 2.24 ?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? Deut. 24.1-4 · Mt. 5.31
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Mt. 5.32 · 1 Cor. 7.10, 11
10 ¶ His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
D. A . Agius
Apr 25th 2011, 11:25
Free to divorce if they don't agree that a marriage should be eternal, as some blissfully think?
Thanks. Then vote YES to Divorce. Everyone would then be free to request or not request for divorce to be granted.
Simple. It's an option. No one forces you to ask for divorce. The laws can be structured to prevent abuse as much as possible but on the other hand, if one is asking for divorce, hasn't the relationship already gone to the dogs?
R. Gauci
Apr 25th 2011, 10:05
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you (Matthew 7:12)
Mr Kevin Tanti
Apr 25th 2011, 11:34
Sorry but Curia PRO is on leave. He is doing the same role in Moviment Zwieg bla divorzju.
Mr Reginald Borg
Apr 25th 2011, 09:54
The Curia distanced itself from the matter. In the January incident, a Curia spokesman washed his hands of the parish’s “initiative”.
I am a convinced Christian and I try everyday to live the Gospel. Can the Curia PRO inform the lay-faithful why the Curia is distancing itself from the matter? Who exactly is the Curia?
This question of 'imposing' ??
Traffic Laws are imposed on the citizen.
Civil Laws are imposed on the citizen.
VAT and Income Tax Laws are imposed on the citizen.
Health and Safety Laws are imposed on the citizen.
These form part of the moral and ethical laws.
Paul Konti
Apr 25th 2011, 11:07
The Church has every right to 'interfere' and to 'influence' as you put it. The Church is also duty-bound to lead its followers, to guide them, and to advise them on what they should do and how they should live. Moreover, the Church has every right to express its views like any other body, political party, etc... And why not? That divorce is a 'civil right' is only YOUR opinion. There are others who think otherwise. Let everyone have their say and may the best argument win.
Marianne Tabone
Apr 25th 2011, 11:44
Making your opinion heard does not imply brain washing! If I were you I would look up the definition of brain washing in a good dictionary! Does not the Church form an integral part of society as you and I do? Or do you want to consign the church to the sacristy and have it not form part of society. Is the church imposing her view by simply making her position clear? why are you so worried? Those who want to vote in favour of divorce will do so whatever anyone says and those who don't want to vote for it will definitely not do so whatever names some people choose to call them!! Names such as arrogant and old fashioned and conservative etc don't change the view of the anti divorce community!!
Mr M Farrugia
Apr 25th 2011, 11:57
@Ken. Galea. Siehbi qieghed tinfaxxa rasek qabel taqsama dwar ir-rizultat tad-divorzju. Ippruvajt issib skuza sabiex toskura il-Knisja jekk id-divorzju ma jghaddix. Il-Knisja mhux qed tindahal anzi qed tkun kawtela u prudenti hafna. Il-Knisja ghanda dritt li taghti direzzjoni fejn tidħol il-ligi ta' Alla. Li taghti direzzjoni mhux indhil. Semmili kaz fejn il-KURJA qed tindahal. Meta qed tghid li l-qassis jippriedka b'mod diplomatiku inti stess qed tikkonferma li ma hemmx indhil imma direzzjoni. Il-Knisja mhux qed tindahal kif il-poplu jivvota imma qed tispjega il-kelma ta' Alla. Jidher li inti ma tafx taghmel distinzjoni bejn il-Ligi ta' Alla li kull nistrani ghandu jsegwi u l-ligi Civili.
Kenneth Galea
Apr 25th 2011, 09:50
If the divorce referendum does not go through it is clear that the Church's influence would have played a huge role. Once again the church is interfering with matters when it should not be, it is trying to brain wash the church goers for sure and the general population. It is well known that church goers are being influenced during the mass when the priest starts preaching diplomatically against divorce. My mum went after the procession of our lady of Sorrows and even then the priest in charge was trying to brain wash the faithful.....I tell the church to leave its faithful to make their own choices and stop interfering with the State once and for all! Ater all divorce is NOT a sin but a civil right!
Victor Pulis
Apr 25th 2011, 10:46
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife (no mention of husband in the commandment) means you must not take another man's wife while they are still married. Divorce ends that contract, (not the marriage as that would have been long dead.)
Why is the husband not mentioned in the commandment? because in those days a woman had no right to divorce her husband. That is why we must look at Jesus's saying in the context of those times.
Fabien Sant Fournier
Apr 25th 2011, 11:44
I believe the bible states:
“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
..it doesn't say anything about women coveting their neighbour's husband.
why? because in biblical terms, a wife, just like a servant/ox/donkey was considered as property!
are you sure you wish to adhere to antiquated and sexist values?!
Mr Robert Cuschieri
Apr 25th 2011, 12:08
Refering to your statements that "church goers are being influenced during mass" and "trying to brain wash the church goers", being Catholic am not voting against divorce because the priests says so, but because Christ preached so. And so should Catholics and believers. Who are we to decide what's good and bad if this has already been dictated by Him? And what do you pretend the priests to preach if not the will of God?? Then if you're a non-believer, it's a different story.
Ms Rita Smith
Apr 25th 2011, 12:11
Mr. Kenneth Galea how can you not understand that the Church is not interfering with matters when it should not be, as you put it. The Church has the obligation to open the eyes of practicing Chatholics and if you go to Church you must be a practicing Chatholic otherwise why bother to go. The Church is only transmitting to its faithful the teaching of Christ who hates divorce. Consequently, the Church in the circumstances of today wants to safeguard its faithful from the snares of the devil. I am saying this because the devil wants also to take over Malta like he did with other nations but he will not succeed in my opinion. It is a sin to vote for the introduction of divorce as it goes aginst God's law. But god left us free to see the right from wrong.
As to the mentioning of divorce in the procession of Our Lady of Sorrows it would not have been more appropriate as Our Lady told us to say the Rosary so that divorce will not enter Malta and who went to the procession and has in mind to vote for divorce he should have stayed at home because that is what I call "oqbra mbajda"
Jason Borg
Apr 25th 2011, 12:11
So what! Only dictators try to silence the Church's voice. And it seems we have quite a lot of them locally.
Mr Reginald Borg
Apr 25th 2011, 09:22
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife/husband.
Divorce is instrinsically EVIL.
Divorce is the murderer of the family.
Divorce is the chief enemy of children.
Divorce is a social evil, bankrupting whole societies.
Mr Victor Laiviera
Apr 25th 2011, 10:12
Thou shalt not commit adultery. (but people have been doing it for ever and will continue to do so, with or without divorce)
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife/husband. ( ditto)
Divorce is intrinsically EVIL. (not half as evil as forcing people to remain in a hellish relationships)
Divorce is the murderer of the family. (NO - divorce is the burial of something that is already dead)
Divorce is the chief enemy of children. (Not more so than separation or annulment)
Divorce is a social evil, bankrupting whole societies. ( ditto )
Mr Paul Barrett
Apr 25th 2011, 09:21
Quote: “The divorce mentality irreparably corrodes the bond of marriage and the introduction of divorce through civil law will always weaken the way we understand and experience everlasting marriage.” Unquote.
Yes this is true - It means that no-longer will one spouse be able to mistreat or forever claim ownership of the other as a slave nor spitefully hold the power to prevent him/her ever finding happiness in civil marriage to another.
Mr Victor Laiviera
Apr 25th 2011, 09:18
No "Vision Tech" advert, this time?
Ms Yaz Tabone
Apr 25th 2011, 09:13
if i was to ever get married (which i seriously doubt cos the church have rly put me off it), i ll def get married outside the church.. i would want nothing to do with them. it'll be MY marriage, not theirs.
my (almost) 3 year old son is not baptised, n never will be.. he will never attend church (as far as i'm concerned).. he will not go to "muzew" n will not be sent to a 'church school'.
i am not anti-religion, but i AM anti-church. thanks to the church, many people have lost their faith (so have i) - can u blame them? the church is makin it seem that their god is one of hatred n punishment, who wants to follow such a person? many people have boycotted mass, many youngsters have stopped believin.. the priests are doin more harm than good!
they can put a billboard right outside my house if they want.. i am a strong believer of human rights, n if some don't believe that divorce is a human right, the right to choose is!
Mr M Cachia
Apr 25th 2011, 13:11
Could I ask what the English language has ever done to you?? I've really tried to understand your point but I have unfortunatly failed.....
Mr Giov DeMartino
Apr 25th 2011, 17:13
@ Kenneth Cassar: Qbizt fin-nofs u ANQAS INT ma wegibt il-mistoqsija semplici tieghi.
Mr M Vella***
Apr 25th 2011, 09:04
This billboard, has it got a police licence to be there? if not and no action is taken I'll put up a pro divorce billboard in my drive way.
Don't cohabit but marry so vote YES FOR DIVORCE.
Alla biss jista jiggudika, u min jiggudika ikun iggudikitat.
Mr Giov DeMartino
Apr 25th 2011, 09:34
If this billboard carried an anti divorce message, would you have asked for the police permission?
Victor Pulis
Apr 25th 2011, 10:47
It DOES carry an anti divorce message!
Kenneth Cassar
Apr 25th 2011, 11:18
@ Giov DeMartino:
1. The billboard actually has an anti-divorce message.
2. All billboards require a permit.
Jason Borg
Apr 25th 2011, 12:12
Mela l-Qrati jistgħu iżarmaw.
U hemm baħar jaqsam bejn opinjoni u ġudizzju.
Ms Rita Smith
Apr 25th 2011, 12:18
Drajtuha Alla biss jiggudika. Hadd mhu qed jiggudika imma qed iggibu skuza ghaliex ma tridux tnizzlu il-verita ta Gesu Kristu. Dejjem twahhlu fuq il-qassissin ghall-fini ta mohhkom. kulhadd liberu mma xi darba jasal iz-zmien li veru tridu tigu ggudikati minn Kristu stess li jobghod id-divorzju. Good luck mate.
Rita Smith
carmel taliana
Apr 25th 2011, 13:05
Do the boards carrying PL comments against Government carry a licence if not lets start from there.
Mr Giov DeMartino
Apr 25th 2011, 17:47
Sorry...I should have written If the billboard carried a pro-divorce .....