Mgr Gouder files libel case

Andy Farrugia

Apr 11th 2011, 10:04

You are either naive or trying to be funny. Mgr Gouder insists that he did neither.

Philip Hili

May 20th 2011, 12:25

@ v mercieca

First and foremost, as stated by Andy Farrugia "Mgr Gouder insists that he did neither." Secondly, for your information, yes, there is a difference between the PN executive and the PN parliamentary Group. Had these two bodies were the same, there would not have been any difference between the PN executive and the Government.

Philip Hili

May 20th 2011, 12:34

Dr Saliba,

May I add something to your last sentence - "not by those who make it their mission in life to obstruct the Church in its mission to spread Christ's message." I add ........make it their mission in life especially during these last few months to fabricate lies against the teaching of the Catholic Church in its mission to spread Christ's message.
Thank you.

Philip Hili

May 20th 2011, 12:55

Mr. P Vella,

Where is the reputation of Mgr. Gouder?

Who is going to pay for the slander?

I think that Mgr. Gouder has every right to clear his name from any wrong doing attributed to him maliciously.

You must not forget that certain stories in such papers are created in order to crate a scoop for the paper to increase the readership and thus some more funds find their way to the coffer of the newspaper.
Therefore, my question to you, why "married couples" are involved in your contribution?

S. Zammit

Apr 8th 2011, 15:41

I'm not Catholic and could not be bothered by religion, but by your logic I would be able to bring down the name of the member of the church, but he should "just forgive me". Maybe he just wants to have his name cleared off a situation.

Stefan Bonanno

Apr 8th 2011, 16:04

Edward, the true meaning of 'forgiveness' goes hand in hand with the true meaning of 'justice'. We catholics believe in a 'forgiving' and 'JUST' GOD. Please don't separate the two. If you do so, kindly brush up your theology. Catholics belive in a forgiving, merciful but at the same time, a just GOD. All three qualities go hand in hand, and should never be separated. Check for yourself the New Testament, especially the gospels - there you can find plenty of evidence backing what I just said. regards.

Kevin Cassar

Apr 8th 2011, 16:30

@ Stefan Bonanno You have no idea what you're saying. Mercy cannot go hand in hand with justice because mercy is by definition the suspension of justice. Mercy implies leniency, compassion or favour while justice is just getting what one deserves.

Philip Hili

Apr 9th 2011, 00:55

Mr. Edward Cassar,
Am I wrong if I say that you are of the opinion that clergy cannot defend themselves from the irresponsible behaviour of some cheap journalists - in Maltese "gurnalisti tal-habb gozz"? The fact that San Gorg Preca used to quote the Maltese saying "Il-Kelma tqanqal u l-ezempju ikaxxkar." for you means that the clergy who is insulted by these cheap journalists should not defend themselves?
Come on Mr. Cassar, grow up and do not try to make an issue of Mgr. Gouder for taking an action to clear his name and clear his reputation. This has nothing to do with Christ teaching.

Stefan Bonanno

Apr 9th 2011, 11:56

@ Kevin Cassar Thank you Kevin for your comment. I really like what you said, because if that were true, that would mean that I can decide to rob your house and all your possessions (to be very honest I don't know who you are) and then I go to a good compassionate priest and forgives me - without obliging me to return anything back to you! Because as you say, forgivness has nothing to do with justice!!
To be precise for those who feel at a loss, Catholic teaching insists that such priest should show mercy with me as a robber, should help me understand the consequences of my actions, but AT THE SAME TIME demands justice to be done! In other words, return back Kevin's belongings. To sum it all, mercy, forgiveness but also justice to be done. Regards.

Philip Hili

May 20th 2011, 13:23

@ Edward Cassar.
As of when because you are a priest and someone fabricates a false story about you, "Christian followers" are scandalised if the priest or any other religious person seeks ways and means to clear his name from the fabricated story? What would you have said had Mgr. Gouder ignored that lie and kept his mouth shout?
I think that you would have reasoned;-
" Ara, qieghed tara, l-ewwel qalu li ma hemmx lok ghall-politika fuq dan is-suggett u issa Mgr. Gouder mar jiltaqa' u jitkellem mal-PN skond il-gazzetta"!! I am sure that this would have been your comment. Therefore it is not a matter of forgivness but it is a matter of fairness and correctness.

I do not know whether your quote with regards to San Gorg Preca is correct but let say it is correct, I am sure that San Gorg Preca said many other things which you decided not to quote for obvious reasons!!!!