Angry Maltese reaction as Lampedusa bars entry to AFM patrol boat
Updated - Adds details, picture of sinking migrants' boat.
Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici this morning accused Italy of having reneged on in its legal and humanitarian obligations after a Maltese patrol boat which had just rescued 171 migrants was not allowed entry into Lampedusa - the closest port to the scene.
Using uncharacteristically strong language, Dr Mifsud Bonnici explained how the rescue took place on Lampedusa's doorstep. Yet the Italian authorities replied to Maltese calls for help in the rescue operation some two hours after the rescue started and only after it was complete.
After the Maltese boat picked up the migrants, it steamed towards the island of Lampedusa, just 54 nautical miles away. However, the Italian authorities refused entry and the patrol boat stood outside Lampedusa's territorial waters for some 90 minutes. Given the rough seas and the Italian authorities' refusal, a decision was eventually taken to bring the rescued migrants to Malta - 91 nautical miles away.
"This was not correct behaviour by the Italians," the minister said.
The migrants, for the first time, included Libyans.
The minister explained that the rescue operation started at 3.55 p.m. yesterday. P61 happened to be in the area looking for survivors after another migrants boat capsized on Wednesday.
At 4.32 p.m. Malta asked the Italians to assist in the rescue. The Italians only replied at 6.15 p.m, when all the migrants had been taken on board the patrol boat.
The Italians refused entry to the Maltese patrol boat at Lampedusa because they argued it was not safe as it was 'full up' and medical assistance could not be provided.
Dr Mifsud Bonnici said he could not understand this as, according to media reports, only 84 migrants remained at Lampedusa.
The patrol boat arrived in Malta at 5 a.m. carrying 151 men, 17 women and three children.
815 migrants arrived on two boats last week, the first arrivals in over a year. All are believed to have left from Libya.
JOY AMID THE TRAGEDY
Meanwhile, 50 of the 53 migrants rescued from the sea on Wednesday this morning were taken by plane to Brindisi. Among them were 'Mimi' and her boyfriend 'Peter' whose story was the only happy aspect of the tragedy.
Each had thought that the other had perished in the rough seas, and they then embraced each other warmly when they were finally reunited by the rescuers.
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Mark Piscopo
Apr 10th 2011, 17:58
The refusal by the Italian authorities in denying the disembarkation in Lampedusa of 171 illegal immigrants which were saved by the Maltese vessel P61, could be a strategy by the Italian government in order to discourage the landings of the illegal immigrants, by sending the message that Lampedusa, which is the gateway to Europe, is closed and that the only alternative is to go to Malta, where the illegal immigrants will be stranded for ever with the least possibility of ever leaving that island. Malta must take a Stand on this issue to protect our National Interest or else our locals will surely feel the impact!
A.Sammut
Apr 10th 2011, 12:07
Why didn't the captain of the patrol boat claim a port of refuge? I don't think the vessel is certified to carry all does bodies does it was unfit to sail.
Dr Francis Saliba
Apr 10th 2011, 11:29
The North of Italy, the base for Maroni's Lega Nord, is the stronghold where during World War II the Italian Fascists made their last stand as the Republic of Salo'. It is notorious for the contempt with which it regards all Italian citizens living to the south of Rome. One does not have to be very clever to understand the aspirations of people of the ilk of Maroni and Bossi for our small strategic island, south of Sicily, and plumb in the centre of their "Mare nostrum",
We would be opening the way for a resurgence of the attempt to annex Malta as their "terra irredenta" hoping to succeed by intrigue where Mussolini failed by force of arms.
Pule' Carmel
Apr 9th 2011, 22:09
Do not forget that Berlusconi bought a Villa on Lampedusa, and he does not want to devalue it but to increase its value by isolating Lampedusa and introducing it to peace and quiet!!
p.grima
Apr 9th 2011, 18:24
I wonder what Mr.Giletti has to say now.
margaret richards
Apr 9th 2011, 09:29
@ Louis Cassar - since we are too small to remain alone - and please do not come and say that we can remain alone - qed narawkhom qiskom il-patrijotti tas-sold u sitta - do you suggest we should have joined the Maghreb or Mashreq by any chance. Just don't be idiotic, parochial, extremist, and with such a maltese closed mentality. Grumbling, moaning & groaning - the national hobbies.
Connie Deguara
Apr 9th 2011, 07:12
When are the Maltese going to stop idolising the Italians.
Isobel Mcgonigle
Apr 9th 2011, 02:36
Brussels the capital of Europe,says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyfqJB3Uz0
Charlie Borg
Apr 8th 2011, 20:06
And this shows the real state of things between Malta and Italy. So all is not well! Hux, Carm!
K. Rizzo
Apr 8th 2011, 19:18
Food, Water, Fuel, Boat....and off the Sicily you go. Let's not let us get bullied! We are Maltese, we take no...
A Bezzina
Apr 8th 2011, 18:08
Best if they called Signor Gilletti personally and he would have come to save the day!!!!!
charles caruana carabez
Apr 8th 2011, 18:04
The Maltese captain did not abandon the refugees, but undertook, instead, a gruelling 8 hour journey across a troubled sea in the dark. He and his crew should have their devotion acknowledged formally, even as an answer to the Italians ( a small ceremony would make the foreign headlines [we would see to that] and expose their dastardly behaviour). A lot of things could have happened, but skill and good fortune prevented another disaster. The italians, I think, are trying to make us relinquish something that belongs to us......
M. Antonio Formosa
Apr 10th 2011, 16:38
No doubt the Maltese captain did a superb job. But wouldn't his achievment have been more humanitarian vis-a-vis our children and our grandchildren if he had deposited the people somehwere in North Africa. I know there must be some masochistic EU law somewhere but isn't our first responsibility to our own children and grandchildren
Marco Cremona
Apr 10th 2011, 21:28
@ M Antonio Formosa.
I do not think that the fact that these people (I repeat, people) were saved from drowning and some of them needed assistance passes through your 'patriotic' mind. And you suggest that the captain should have taken a 2 day trip to somewhere in war-stricken Libya (endangering his crew and the survivors) to seek a hospital somewhere to attend to the survivors.
No, and the likelihood that you posted your comment just after coming back from Sunday mass. You should be ashamed to call yourself Maltese!
T Pace
Apr 8th 2011, 17:10
It does seem quite coincidental that the boat started sinking when help from the AFM arrived. Would it be too much to expect the Police to discover how it started sinking (together with any evidence of the traffickers) ? Are the authorities going to relay information about these illegals to the Italians so that if any are discovered in Italy, they would be able to send them back?
David Portelli
Apr 8th 2011, 16:50
Dawk kollha igergru f'dawn il-kummenti kollha jibzghu jiprotestaw, mela ibqghu gergru
Joseph Galea
Apr 8th 2011, 20:31
U izjed minn hekk jibqghu jivvotaw lil partit taghhom fl-elezjoni generali ,ghalkemm ikunu jafu xi tkun l-agenda tal partit. Jien nighdilhom lil dawn ,li lanqas biss ikun baqaghlhom id-dritt li jilmentaw fuq l-immigrazjoni u wisq aktar jipprotestaw.
g borg
Apr 8th 2011, 15:17
I would say...
Feed Them
Cloth Them
Issue Them With a Passport
Give them an Air Malta Ticket to whatever detination they like in Europe free of Charge
AirMalta then Invoices Govt for Flights
Govt pays Air Malta thus improving Air Malta's financial position.
We are Happy
The Italians are Happy (unless they go to Italy)
Maybe Malstrom might not be so happy... but then if she doesn't care then why should we ?
Zachary Stewart
Apr 8th 2011, 20:36
Amen to everything you said. In a real union, indifference can cut both ways.
Louis Cassar
Apr 8th 2011, 15:13
I never understood why countries like Malta and Cyprus wanted to join EU. We do not actually run our countries, in fact EU decides for us and we must obey. Since we join EU and Euro zone things are gone down the drain. Severe financial problems, many jobs are lost due to the cheap East Europeans, everything has gone extremely expensive, plus we are packed up with thousands of illegal immigrants. We have countries that are suffering due to EU, like Ireland, Greece and now Portugal and God only knows who's next. There is no solidarity in EU, we are all under the commands of those holding the steering wheel -Germany - France. I only hope that a strong politician will take us out from all this EU mess. We lived many years without the help of EU, and I'm sure we can live with out it.
Joseph Farrugia
Apr 8th 2011, 17:47
Absolutely right! Only for the bad things we are in Europe. Today in Romania it was stated that the tax on imported second hand cars was declared illegal and urged people to claim their money back from the government. Actually 12,000 people around europe already won the case against the government and took their money back with interest.... We Maltese need to wake up...
Peter Korsten
Apr 8th 2011, 23:44
@Louis Cassar
Do you honestly believe all the anti-EU mantras you've been spewing out? Are you sure you live in the same Malta as I do? Because I've found that food has either made a jump in quality, or become cheaper, or both. Ireland, Portugal and Greece are in a mess because they've been spending money they didn't have.
Don't even get me started on Greece: as a state railways employee, the average salary is something like €60,000. And civil servants are the only ones who pay their taxes. Is it normal for a train driver to earn €100,000? No, I don't think so.
Brian Borg
Apr 8th 2011, 14:59
I read many times that Tunisia is very close to Lampedusa, if not mistaken by less then 100 km and the boat was 54 miles south, therefore closer to Tunisia then Lampedusa. Why the AFM took the immigrants to Lampedusa? And then again after being refused entry at Lampedusa why bring them all the way to Malta instead of taking them back to Tunisia, after were saved from a sinking boat?
D. Borg
Apr 8th 2011, 14:30
The majority of the Maltese people are really angry at the developments regarding illegal immigrants. We do not want them here, it's about time we start protesting like the people of Lampedusa did.
Charles Zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 14:22
So much for the nice words and high spirits the same Minister had when announcing the voluntary burden sharing agreement with our solidarity driven EU !!!. The minister was adamant to take firmer, more assertive steps then. Having failed us Maltese miserably he has only one honourbale option left and that is to resign and vacate his post to make way for someone else ready to prove his mettle.
S Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 14:17
In Spring hunting the EU sticks its nose and our European brethernn by sending CABS.....
Isnt there any EU Enforcement body in a case like this that orders that country refusing to obey the laws to obey?? or are they strong with the small and week with the big !!
If Lampedusa is over crowded then what is Malta?????we are the most densely populated country in the WORLD!!
Our government is Spineless u "Laqghi tal-Barrani" !!
Charles J. Buttigieg
Apr 8th 2011, 14:16
As good Christians we have a moral obligation here. We are obliged by our religion as well as members of the EU, to pick up these distressed souls, give them medical attention, feed them, clothe them and give them dignified shelter. Being more Catholics than the Pope we ought to go the extra mile and follow Minister Roberto Maroni’s model for a solution- give all of them a Shengens Visa and a free flight to any EU State.
Corinne Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 16:51
The moral obligation is independent of anyone's religion.
Ernest Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 14:15
Lets veto all EU parlament decisions and than let's see if this attitude against Malta will continue...this is pure racism against us....VERGOGNATEVI
l fenech
Apr 8th 2011, 14:12
Sabu lil-Garibaldi jistennihom. Farsa ohra alla tre colori.
margaret richards
Apr 8th 2011, 14:10
@ n. Cortis & co. Idiotic maltese parrochialism @ its best. With or without eu you will always remain stuck in idiotic maltese closed extremist traditionalist mentality.
margaret richards
Apr 8th 2011, 14:09
@ n. Cortis & co. Idiotic maltese parrochialism @ its best. With or without eu you will always remain stuck in idiotic maltese closed extremist traditionalist mentality.
Jason Falzon
Apr 8th 2011, 14:06
Not helping them is out of the question. However God gave us one particular comandament that says "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" therefore it is assumed that one must love himself as well. In this situation this means that we must care for our land and for our preservation. Therefore I propose that we as Christians help them in all ways we can, bring them over, give them shelter, food and clothing and above all dual citizenship valid for 1 month. Also "OFFER" them a free one way passage to any country in Europe of their choice. Then you will see how Cecilia will react.
David Magro
Apr 8th 2011, 13:58
A plausible solution?
Grant them a refugee status within the hour, and a holiday break in any destination they want throughout EU....
G Tanti
Apr 8th 2011, 13:57
Government being soft? Not doing enough?
Nothing is new here!
We need real nationalism and patriotism.
N S Tanti
Apr 8th 2011, 13:50
NO MORE!! WE ARE FULL - END OF STORY!!!
joe muscat
Apr 8th 2011, 13:20
The Italians have this saying : chi di spada ferisce,di spada perisce , but i think they forgot it , we have to remind it to them ... Malta should issue temporary resident permits so they can travel freely out of Malta
Joseph Aquilina
Apr 8th 2011, 13:18
"Home Affairs Minister Carm Mifsud Bonnici this morning accused Italy of having reneged on in its legal and humanitarian obligations after a Maltese patrol boat which had just rescued 171 migrants was not allowed entry into Lampedusa - the closest port to the scene." - and what are you going to do about it? It is time to talk less and act!!! Hurt Italy where it hurts them most; that is by attacking their public image. Take them in front some international body and humiliate them in the same way they are trying to do to us!!! At least that is what a true leader would do!!
E Gatt
Apr 8th 2011, 13:12
The main news is that thankfully 171 lives were saved. Well done AFM.
It would be interesting to know if the AFM attempted to contact Tunisia, which is probably closer to the site, than Malta is.
Daniela C Lia
Apr 8th 2011, 13:12
Naħseb meta Massimo Gilletti qal li l-immigranti ma jigux Malta għax aħna nisparawlhom, naħseb bi zball ried jgħid dwar pajjizu stess għax meta ma tagħtiex l-għajnuna meħtieġa, bniedem qiesek qed toqtlu indirettament.
N.Cortis
Apr 8th 2011, 13:04
Malta's problem is that we have a soft government!!!!
Meaning of solidarity ------ Prime ministers of 27 EU member states meet in Brussels,shaking hands,and taking photos,all laughing,so that all EU population beleives that all nations concerned are friends!!! Hypocrecy at its best!!!!
One sure thing is that all those employed in Brussels are very very well paid with hundreds of thousands of euros per year,---and that is what actually concerns them!!!!!
Hope there will be a "TRUE MALTESE PATRIOT",who will pull Malta out of this hypocratic EU!!!!
Stephen Farrugia
Apr 8th 2011, 13:39
I wish to draw your attention to inform you that I Stephen Farrugia from Hal Farrug is not the same Stephen Farrugia that usually puts his comments on this newspaper. As I am an ex Warrant Officer of the Armed Forces this might give the impression that we are the same person. Kindly could you at least mention that he is from Sliema. Kind Regards Stephen Farrugia ID 606457 M
john vella
Apr 8th 2011, 12:49
How true is that old saying: A FRIEND IN NEED IS A FRIEND INDEED.
So now we have it, most business in Malta has been bought by the Italians and we are left if lucky to work for them. Now that we need them they laugh it out on RAI1 when someone say we shoot the illegals on the high seas. Give me a British sailor anytime after all they gave their life for our freedom, rather these new make believe Italian allies!
P Gatt
Apr 8th 2011, 13:13
so true.
C Grech
Apr 8th 2011, 15:01
That's exact. The Maltese go to Italy and Sicily to spend money and nowadays the Italians come here to earn money. Albeit its a fact that they treat us like a third world country.
Last October I had just arrrived in Sicily. After 15 mins driving we (my brother and I) were stopped by the police and asked to get out of the car. The police checked our IDs, log book etc and phoned to verify. We were asked the reason for visit and if we had gone to sell something (LOL). After about 40 mins they decided to fine us since my brother had forgotten his licence (he was driving my car since I felt unwell). Eur 35 - so far so good. Problem is that a couple of months later I received another fine of nearly Eur 400. That very same week I had watched on TV that Tonio Borg had signed some bilateral agreements on fines.
We were driving well. I have a good and upmarket car with no fancy bells or whistles, casual but well dressed ,well educated and more money in my pockets than 95% of Italian tourists. The only problem was I am Maltese.
victor
Apr 8th 2011, 12:44
araw ftit min qed jispara fuq min !!! http://www.video.mediaset.it/video/iene/puntata/219500/golia-in-fuga-da-manduria.html
m zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 12:42
I must say that the authorities should start doing something about the problem as i have to say that a few minutes ago one of these people who live in the hal far tents knocked on my door and begged for money something needs to be done i live in zabbar and the guy is knocking on every door in our area
Corinne Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 12:18
What a shed load of ghastly people.
And I don't mean the ones on the boat.
V. Portelli
Apr 8th 2011, 13:23
as if we care about what you think Corinne. Ormai we know you and we know that you would sell malta to best offer. No problem with your opinion as this is only yours.
Carm Pulis
Apr 9th 2011, 21:06
Stop constantly disparaging your fellow maltese and try getting off that high horse of yours Corinne.
Malta is a microcosm of the rest of the world, no better and certainly not worse.
Grow up, travel lots and see reality in all its shades, time and experience will give you an answer.
Corinne Vella
Apr 10th 2011, 09:59
@ Carm Pulis I mentioned no nationality or country, so it’s telling that you believe I’m talking about ‘the Maltese’. Why would I wish to include myself, and the many others who share my views, among those who revel in nastiness and unpleasantness? It is the latter to which I refererred, and they are not only Maltese.
@ V Portelli – It seems you care more than you wish to admit. You’re labouring under the illusion that mine is a minority opinion. That is only because your sort have squeezed out any kind of rational debate here.
Carm Pulis
Apr 10th 2011, 23:00
@ Corinne Vella,
You are constantly disparaging Maltese people on the Times and other blogs if they don't have your immature world view and they are either mintoffian hamali or out and out racists to you.
And don't try to weasel out Corinne, of course you meant Maltese people, as the majority of the writers of these blogs in the T.O.M are Maltese, they certainly are not Italian or Mohawk Indians.
It is a nasty world out there, always was, always will be, get use to it and get real.
K Bartolo
Apr 8th 2011, 12:14
This is what that cheap Malmstrom is saying instead of putting her money where her big mouth is.
http://euobserver.com/9/32142
Mediterranean migration issue has become 'very emotional', commissioner says
Joseph Cauchi
Apr 8th 2011, 12:09
Malta should do exactly like what Italy is right now doing, i.e. issuing temporary resident permits (Permesso di Soggiorno) for a duration of six months to all the illegal immigrants that are in Malta and thus facilitate our burden by allowing these permit-holders to travel freely across the European Schengen Travel Area.
If after the lapse of the six months period any of these temporary-permit-holders returns to Malta, then the Maltese Government should renew these permits again and again and again… and the saga continues!
This would be the only and just solution!
Q.E.D. (Quod Erat Demonstrandum)
JC.
gcForte
Apr 8th 2011, 12:43
A very sensible solution. I add that I will make it more easy for them, and give them a free air travel ticket and a 1000.00 euros each. Considering that once they stay here, still we have to fork more money to keep them. Wake up government before it will be to late. We are being abused and bullied.
B Barbara
Apr 8th 2011, 14:15
gcForte better to send them to Brussels at the EU quarters or to Sweden to see what Malmstrom would them do.
D. Cachia
Apr 8th 2011, 15:46
Sure, let's turn Malta into the refugee gateway to Europe. That should rid us of migrants! How very short sighted.
The only solution is to assist the boats and tow them to their port of departure. Once this is done once or twice, they will think twice about undertaking the voyage. We know already that different groups of migrants have open lines of communications between them (in fact many times it is other migrants who advise the AFM of a boat in "distress"), so you can rest assured that word will travel.
We need to send a clear message - stay where you are!
O Callus
Apr 8th 2011, 17:09
D. Cachia we do not care anything about Europe. They are destroying us so we reciprocate in the same manner.
T Barbara
Apr 8th 2011, 17:25
D. Cachia I agree that we should tow the boats back to where they left, but how can you determine whether they are saying the truth? What if Libya or Tunisia do not accept them back? What we should do is to prevent them from coming to Malta by towing them back out to sea and if any manage to enter they should be given a schengen pass as suggested by others and send them on to Sweden and see how Commissioner Malmstrom would react. We must not allow any illegal immigrants to stay in Malta so yes, give them a schengen pass and send them on their way.
Dennis Zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 12:05
I would just give the ITALIANS a taste of their own medicine . . . Grant all immigrants a temporary free movement pass to roam around in the Schengen area and also offer free tours to Sicily. Then we see what happens!!!
MT Caruana
Apr 8th 2011, 13:47
Naqbel mieghek perfetamant.
Giletti ma tejd xejn ???? Jew biex tigdeb u TPARLA FIL VOJT BISS QIEGHED HEMM.
john attard
Apr 8th 2011, 12:03
We're in a pickle.
- Leave them to die at sea, and we're branded monsters;
- turn to EU for help and we get turned away; Italy doing it's best to stem the tide, therefore
- putting us in more illegals' sights; Northern Europe, with no Idea on how to handle this issue, telling us what to do but not giving any help whatsoever;
- a population becoming ever angrier at the inability of those above;
- the areas inhabited by these people already turning into scenes reminiscent of downtown Mogadishu;
and we're only in April.
What is one to do?
J Mallia
Apr 8th 2011, 11:59
Here we go again.....The “Hospitable” maltese people expressing how insensitive and vile towards other humans who happens to be dying by drowning and treated like cattle and pigs.......Yes, again I feel ashamed to be maltese and read most comments..Before writing such hatred, please stop for a moment and think of that child gulping water and crying for help, going up and down the surface of the ocean, knowing for sure he wouldn’t see his mother again.
Joseph Aquilina
Apr 8th 2011, 13:16
I think you are exaggerating. Maltese are not against welcoming illegal immigrants, Maltese are against having a neighbour - who says is our friend - that continually stab us in the back and insults us with every comment they say!! It is time that our Ministers take action and not just talk. Create a report and present it to the International Community so that this can act and force Italy and other nations to act responsibly and not escape from their duty!! Talk is good when someone is listening... however at the moment no one is listening and therefore Malta should take other roads!!
Emma Xerri
Apr 8th 2011, 11:57
Oh these peoplel should stay put in their own homeland. Libya is a big, big country and I am sure that these people were not in harms way - they are just taking advantage of the situation there to make a run for Europe and the 'good life' to be had courtesy of the European and Maltese taxpayers.
Humanitarian aid and charity aside, there has to come a time when the choice has to be made between us and them and between their and our children. I am willing to bet that if the Refugee Laws were not as they are in Europe, none of these people will even think of coming over and risking their lives in a rickety boat, but the stakes are too great. The Maltese during the last war did not take to their boats and made it to Libya or North Africa to seek asylum and shelter from the bombs, but stayed in their besieged island to defend it and to rebuild it afterwards. Somebody should tell these guys how it is done and that running away is not the solution to their problems.
Corinne Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 12:16
What would you do about the boat in the picture?
SPace
Apr 8th 2011, 14:16
Once seen, save them and bring them in. However, our government should reduce patrol boat operations down there to the bare minimum, or to nothing, and if requested to go there by the Italians, he should not fall to their traps, under no circumstances.
This should be a one-off situation where our boats were 'caught' searching for people in that area. It should not happen again. Once bitten, twice shy.
Michael Spiteri
Apr 8th 2011, 14:31
Being a black person in Libya right now in enough reason to get killed with the presumption that they are Gaddafi's mercenaries, so stop dreaming that they are safe over there. No wonder for this fresh wave of immigration.
Corinne Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 16:50
@SPace
Malta is obliged to assist anyone in distress in its search and rescue area. That is why it is called a search and rescue area.
It is useful to arm oneself with the relevant fact when forming an opinion, more so when one proposes that Malta should renege on its international obligations.
L Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 17:29
No excuses Michael Spiteri. They can easily go through the borders from Libya to the other 6 countries that have borders with Libya. There are no border posts but thousands of unguarded kilometres where to slip through without being detected.
G.Pisani
Apr 8th 2011, 11:48
Give them the visa and ryan air ticket to Italy... problem solved and it will be cheaper.
Antoine Grima
Apr 8th 2011, 11:46
This is putting a big strain on Malta / Italy relationship.What's not fair is that it's neither's fault.And what is the EU doing about it ??????? NOTHING . While we keep on argueing with Italy , and people keep on dieing , the EU just watches on.Shame , big shame
John Azzopardi
Apr 8th 2011, 11:33
Good luck Mr. Gozni and Karm for continuing the destruction of Maltese identity, culture and security. vtion our deste our cultural Keep on begging with your EU partners and hopefully they will take 1 or 2 off your hands. YOu ultimately will be responsible for what happens to our little dear Malta and no one else. I give up on all because there is no hope that any maltese politician on either the PN or the PL side will ever do anything to stop the flow. It will ultimately be up the people to strongly put the pressure on our leaders to stop these influx.
Paul Borg
Apr 8th 2011, 11:15
Dear all...... How about opening another FACE BOOK page this time to Maroni and Italian govenment? This seems to have worked when RAI presenter commented falsely against Malta.
This is the only way we have to make our voices heared and make news as Maroni did already.
Dave Alan Caruana
Apr 8th 2011, 11:05
the simple solution would be give them temporary residence permits, enough pocket money for the cheapest flight available, and send them on their way ..
Italy cannot refuse them or it would be weakening the stand the Italians are taking with France.
R. Gauci
Apr 8th 2011, 11:47
Very good point Mr. Caruana, at this point in time Italy is very vulnerable. Ehh if only Mintoff was prime minister right now!
Tonio Azzopardi
Apr 8th 2011, 10:57
Be merciful with these people and grant them and other who are living in miserable conditions under tents and in make shift allocations around Malta, Schengen Visas or permits on grounds of "humanitarian protection" so that they can be accommodated in Europe.
G Vassallo
Apr 8th 2011, 10:55
We need a far far far right party to get is out of this mess. The others are useless.
Raymond Camilleri
Apr 8th 2011, 11:53
What a stupid comment...it isprecisely because of right wing governments that there is no cooperation between EU countries.... 'national interest' means NO solidarity... rightist goverrnments are Europes scourge
Paul Caruana
Apr 8th 2011, 10:54
If the chain of events have indeed unfolded as described, with Malta basically being given the middle finger salute by the Italians, then we have a problem!
So the next time a boat is sighted close to Lampedusa, but still in the Maltese SAR, our cunning neighbours will say that they are unable to send assistance to the area. Cue to the Maltese who send a patrol boat to collect the refugees - only to be refused entry to Lampedusa, which then sets course to Malta. Nice one, Maroni!
W. Cauchi
Apr 8th 2011, 10:52
It's official - Today Italy grants permits to migrants so that they can travel all over the EU. If Italy can do it, so can we.
"Freedom of movement inside the Schengen area is guaranteed by rules that have to be implemented," Maroni said.
So wake up Dr. Gonzi, let's do the same asap. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
J.Cauchi
Apr 8th 2011, 10:49
Burden sharing hahahahahahahahahahah!!! Iktar Burden giving!! Issa nohorgu stqarrija....il-prim "taghna" jaghmel konferenza, l-apologisti tal-Gvern johorgu b'xi fanfarra zlugata u ghat-taparsi kollox sew. Vera pajjiz tad-dahq!
sandraciantar
Apr 8th 2011, 10:49
Like I keep saying, nothing will get done. So GOD HELP US, because one day there will be more of them than us.
J Mallia
Apr 8th 2011, 10:49
Let's get out of the EU and then we can renounce to its Dublin II Convention, renounce to the Refugee Convention, and send all the illegal immigrants OUT OF MALTA. Yes we can get out of the dictatorial EU. Go to the CNI website where they have a link to this European Parliament video that shows that we can leave as we have a right and duty to do to Malta, ourselves, our children and Maltese society. http://www.cnimalta.org/
Mario Camenzuli
Apr 8th 2011, 10:48
The AFM boat should have stayed in Lampedusa to land the immigrants there not matter how long they barred entry. They will do this every time from now on. Does the AFM film these incidents? They should be broadcasted worldwide.
Hats off to AFM to making a humane decision
Ed Cardona
Apr 8th 2011, 10:44
Is this the haven you guys voted for when someone promised you heaven on earth once members in the EU club? A Malta transformed like France and Germany I was promised in the EU.
Serves you right you gullible lot!
frank grech
Apr 8th 2011, 13:36
Malta would still have been obliged to accept/rescue illegal immigrants if it was not a member of the EU. As for staying out of the EU, the consequences would have been dire for Malta,to say the least!
P Pace Balzan
Apr 8th 2011, 10:38
I really do not know who to believe any more.
David Portelli
Apr 8th 2011, 10:35
Qed taraw huti maltin viva malta fl-EU. Lesti ghal dimostrazzjoni jew kulhadd rieqed igerger biss u l-PN u l-PL gallerija.
C Cremona
Apr 8th 2011, 10:29
@ busuttil. What will this achieve, the big countries UK, France and Germany already have millions of immigrants / refugees and there is no way they will take any more, public opinion in these countries will not allow it. The only way is to find a way of stopping these people leaving Libya in the first place. I fear this is going to get much worse before it gets better, I read there is over a million displaced Somalis and Eritreans waiting to escape from Libya into Europe. The best we can hope to get from Europe is a few tent, some money and lots of waffle. We should have elected Norman Lowell as MEP he seems to be the only Maltese politician that is not afraid to speak his mind on these issues.
Stephen Farrugia
Apr 8th 2011, 10:15
Now we 100% in a state of emergency.
LOL.... this story is getting better.
Time to really panic Liberals. Panic, panic....what a good laugh we shall have now.
Who was right ? Come on let's hear it....
S Bonnici
Apr 8th 2011, 10:12
How come there's nothing about this news on Italian sites?? They show Italian people what they want. Even about the boat that sunk, they said it was in Maltese waters but did not say how closer it was to Lampedusa then to Malta.
C Muscat
Apr 8th 2011, 10:10
Viva l-Europa. Ghandek ragun KMB u CNI. L-aqwa li qeghdin mal-mejda. Sarkozy qed jipprova ghal concension taz-zejt u l-prodotti ta Ivory Coast u ahna nibilghu d-duhhan. L-Italja l-aqwa li tiehu hsieb iz-zejt li ghandha mil-Libya u ahna niedu l-emigranti...Hekk sewwa!!!!!!!! U Gonzi beza jaghmilha ta medjatur ghax ma ndunax min ried il-gwerra civili u ghal liema raguni. Keep it up Gonzi kompli gharraqna.
jbusuttil
Apr 8th 2011, 10:08
Dear Minister,
Call a press conference and make sure Sky UK, CNN , BBC and al Aljazeera are present and explain all. Although we are issuing statements these are only being said for us Maltese.
Anthony Falzon
Apr 8th 2011, 10:29
I quiet agree with calling a press conference, inviting foreign press. For the italian government Malta is doing nothing in these difficult days.
Alexander Genuis
Apr 8th 2011, 10:06
That's what I call BURDEN SHARING!!!!!Unity within E.U. Members!!!Equal partners!!!HALLUNA!!!!
Cellul
Apr 8th 2011, 10:16
Colonialism at its very best.
I am looking forward to Mr Gonzi's statement that as usual will lead to nowhere.
Mario Camilleri
Apr 8th 2011, 09:58
Ha jirangawna ghal frisk, Viva europa Maquda...
Maria Cassar
Apr 8th 2011, 09:54
The density of the population in Malta is about 1,200 persons per square kilometre.
The density of the population in many EU countries is way much lower.
Belgium 337, UK 244, Germany 233, Italy 192, Luxembourg 173, Czech Republic 130, Denmark 125, Poland 124, Slovakia 111, France 111, Portugal 109, Hungary 108, Austria 97, Slovenia 95, Romania 94, Spain 88, Cyprus 83, Greece 81, Bulgaria 69, Ireland 60, Lithuania 55, Latvia 37, Estonia 31, Sweden 20, Finland 16, Norway 15 etc.
Yet they all said they are full up and don't want any illegal immigrants.
So how the hell are we expected to allow illegal immigrants in Malta and keep them here?
Maria Borg
Apr 8th 2011, 09:51
This Christianity thing makes me laugh. So in order to ease the pressure from Lampedusa, Berlusconi presents himself as the saver of all humanity and sends illegal immigrants either back or to Italy or handing them visas thus opening doors to Europe, while France closes its doors. Aren't we all Christians my dear. While Italy in some way keeps blaming Malta it always plays the part of the merciful by stating it is the most country which has suffered in this crisis. How about we all close our doors ! Has anyone heard the comments by the Lampedusa residents, they are also true Christians, all they wanted is for their island to retain its identity. Wake up!
DGalea
Apr 8th 2011, 09:51
France is reported to have flate;ly refused an illegal immigrants arriving at its border with Italy.
Seems like tiny Malta will have to carry the burden that is deemed too heavy for ex colonial powers Italy and France.
Antoine Attard
Apr 8th 2011, 09:47
The issue of illegal immigration will last as long as the north African region is instable. The sooner despots are wiped out, democracy installed, and the people are left to enjoy freedom and the fruit of their economy, they will not have to risk their lives for a living. The spider not the web!
PS Zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 10:19
Emmmm, for your information many illegal immigrants entering Lampedusa are from Tunisia, the place where the dictatorship has in fact lately been wiped out and "democracy" installed therefore your argument, I'm sorry, but is wrong. It would be the ideal scenario but the truth is much different.
vic Vella
Apr 8th 2011, 09:47
the Church has a lot of almost empty monasteries. why not open them to these refugees, maybe then can also help them in their maintenance?
CEllul
Apr 8th 2011, 09:39
So we're now picking immigrants whose closest port on call is Lampedusa. Frattini's dream of turning Malta into a detention center is finally becoming true.
K. Degabriele
Apr 8th 2011, 10:34
So true!!!!
Robert Cassar
Apr 8th 2011, 09:37
why don’t we make like France and say that we will not accept any more people coming over. This government have no guts … Garbage in garbage out…
Manuel Micallef
Apr 8th 2011, 09:36
What about we grant these immigrants EU passport and give them money to get a plane to Rome?
P.S Zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 09:31
Would Italy excuse us if one of our presenteters now says on TV that Italy is a barbarian because barred entry?
I believe that whatever Italy does is excused however Malta has to take it and take it, and if just in case we decide to bar entry (which should be done) we would end up with many fingers pointed at us. Come on. Follow Italy's example and don't be afraid of having some fingers pointed as long as we save our country from this invasion (excused or not) Come one, Mr. Government follow Italy's example, Malta is already in a very bad situation to take more. Are we going to be expected to take in a 1000 migrant a day as happened in Lampedusa?
j.spiteri
Apr 8th 2011, 09:29
Where are you Mr. Par idejn sodi? Still in bed at this hour I guess.
K. Degabriele
Apr 8th 2011, 09:26
Ok, so according to Maroni, we have done very bad to call Italians when there was the sinking boat few distance away from LAMPEDUSA. However it's not a problem for him to call Malta when the same thing happens again. What a cheek! I hope that the silly game being played by Italy will not mean that we will have to end up like Lampedusa. Immigrants from Lampedusa were taken to various places in Italy however we don't have somewhere else to take them. How will we end up, with more illegal immigrants than the population, as happened in Lampedusa? I hope the government will wake up from the hybernation its' in. Complaining is not enough dear government. If Italy can bar entry then that applies to us too and we should follow. There are also Spain and France which are bigger. Why all these are barring entry too and we are the only stupids? EU will not be there to help us, they are already refusing, and by the time they will ever lift a finger to help us, Malta will be already invaded. Why does our government never acts on time as Italy's government does?
Joseph Aquilina
Apr 8th 2011, 09:16
Report Italy to the UN for crimes against humanity!! It is time we start playing their own game! If we do not do this then Italy will win the day and we might soon loose control over our waters!
CEllul
Apr 8th 2011, 09:52
I am sure that they will be terrified by such threat.
Meanwhile while Simon Busuttil writes his millionth and one article about burden sharing, we keep on accepting immigrants. Now we'll also accepting immigrants which are close to Lampedusa. What par idejn sodi this government has. Oh yeah, around the locals neck.
gcForte
Apr 8th 2011, 09:15
Din affari qeghdha tiskala u issir serja min gurnata ghal l-ohra. Il gvern Malti ghandu ifittex l-ghajnuna tal " United Nations ",ghax jidher bic car li Malta qeghdha tigi " bullied " mil l-Italja, specjalment mil ministru Moroni. Kieku jien lil dan il bniedem ( flok nghejdlu xi haga ohra ) diga ghamiltu " persona non grata ".
G. Mangion
Apr 8th 2011, 11:46
@ gcForte
Il Vera ilqat il - bull's eye 100 % Agree very well said.
If Italy wants to play foul on Malta then........................... TWO CAN PLAY AT THE GAME.
G. Mangion
Henry Fenech Azzopardi
Apr 8th 2011, 09:13
How big are your arms? What if within a few days there will be much more coming? Let the Italians get a bit of their own medicine. Give the least possible residance permit so maybe we get to know whether MALTA is their priority to stay.
Would Berlosconi Morroni and the rest will have the cheek to refuse entry into their own country then? Things have to be tried to be proved. We will know whether France reacted in a proper manner when they refused entry to the migrants leaving ITALY.
V. Portelli
Apr 8th 2011, 09:09
Good tactic by Italy. That is an indirect way on how to make us share their burden whether we like it or not and remove that 'Beati voi'. Hope our government will take example. Italy doesn't care about no one not even about its' fellow EU member. That's called forced burden sharing. Now what? All africans will come here by force? Come on, how much of this can we take in the long run?
Italy is playing a very dirty game now. Where are the laws implying that immigrants have to be rescued and accepted in the most near land? Or that applies only to malta because our government accepts everything without ever complaining? If lampedusa was nearer, then they should have been taken there because a week ago a french ship brought them here as this was the most nearer land I suppose. What are we going to do now? Accept everyone because Italy doesn't care anymore? Has italy forgot that we are so small that sometimes we don't even appear on the map? What an egoist country. We are in EU only for the bad but when we need help we become all of a sudden independent.
Timothy Cachia
Apr 8th 2011, 09:02
I think Italy is on a mission to foulmouth us with the rest of Europe... The Maltese Government really needs to take these unprovoked allegations more seriously.
Mario MIcallef
Apr 8th 2011, 09:02
Nixtieq naghti gieh lil Forzi Armati Maltin ghall-umanita li urew alavolja l-ligi internazzjonali tghidlek li jridu jittiehdu l-eqreb port(Lampedusa). Is-sur Giletti issa jara ghaliex qed jigu Malta ghax l-konnazzjonali tieghu jaghlqu l-port!! Vera NIES IPOKRITI!!!
r.camilleri
Apr 8th 2011, 09:01
If the things are going to remain as they are, not very far we are going to have more emigrants than Maltese. The EU countries must hold the bull from its horns and see why these people are fleeing their countries. Help should be given in their native countries not to enter other countries which are already over populated and the chance for work is limited.
Mario P Sciberras
Apr 8th 2011, 08:53
Give them temporary residence permit now.
Mike Magri
Apr 8th 2011, 08:48
...and there must be a time, ( and i think with this uncontrolable rate, should be soon..), when we ALL should say... VERY SORRY GUYS... WE ARE `FULL UP`...P..L..E..A..S..E...!!!
K Caruana
Apr 8th 2011, 08:36
1,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in one week. We are sinking and no other EU country wants them. Sarkozy closed the French - Italian border and is sending them back to Italy. Do the same Gonzi and send them back to their countries. The Maltese people do not want them here. Send them back. Send them back. Send them back.
S. Formosa
Apr 8th 2011, 09:39
Well said. Hope that finally the government of malta will follow italy, france and all the others. It's stupid that the biggest countries close their borders and we as the smallest open all ports to accept this irresponsible illegal immigration.
totally agree with you.
D.Zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 08:29
Welcome, Why can't we give them visa like Minister Moratti have done so they can leave. Since Italians can do this why can't the Maltese Goverment?
victor caruana
Apr 8th 2011, 08:17
Welcome. You deserve a warm welcome after the ordeal you endured to improve the future of your family. We are a country which loves the family and do not want divorce....so welcome again.
Michael Spiteri
Apr 8th 2011, 08:11
Sarkosi instigated the war in Libya so it should be France that shoulders this burden with us instead of closing it's frontiers to immigrants in mainland Europe.
ASpiteri
Apr 8th 2011, 08:01
we welcome them with open arms...that's the least a true christian should do!!!
d. borg
Apr 8th 2011, 08:27
Ma nessagerawx ta. With open arms when almost a thousand arrived in one week? And if more keep on coming we'll remain lampa stampa not open arms Hallina tridtx!!
d attard
Apr 8th 2011, 08:44
I think that good christians like you should help these people by opening their houses to accomodate them in their home. Otherwise I dont think that a good christian would impose such "goodness" on other people by enforcing them to pay for their accomodation. I have my children and my own worries and expences that come 1st and foremost.
Economic migrants should be returned immediately and those threathened with violence should be returned when such threat cease to exist.
George Joseph
Apr 8th 2011, 08:50
This is not about christianity, it's involve space on the island ,something we have't got.
Charles Sammut
Apr 8th 2011, 08:59
God will be providing us with many more opportunities to flaunt our Christianity in the next days as excellent weather is expected. Let us be grateful for these blessings. We do not mind losing our country as long as we do not lose our souls.
Moira Heath
Apr 8th 2011, 09:12
Better than hearing of babies and small children drowning at sea. How horrible, poor things.
I M Dingli
Apr 8th 2011, 09:14
What does Christianity have to do with this? Are the Maltese more Christian than the Italians? Have we got to consider the Italians as barbarians because they clearly refused help to these persons (not the first instance of such cases)?
The situation gets more ridiculous as time passes by. I admit that there isn't a solution which will be accepted by all entities involved but for the past years, it was always the Maltese Government that gave way.
Joe Borg
Apr 8th 2011, 09:22
I fully agree this is our chance to practice the true meaning of beeing a christian. We have plenty of Churches. Lets open the doors and make them heal the wounds close to the lord. All priests chould take part in this.
Kenneth Galea
Apr 8th 2011, 09:32
We hardly heard anything about illegal immigration during the last 18 months thanks to the Berlusconi and Gaddafi agreement. This nasty nightmare is back on our screens and media now. If the Italians want to play tit for tat, GonziPN should take the bull by the horns and refuse to cooperate in any circumstances. The AFM should not have brought these illegals to our country, where is the Swede Cecilia now? Is she having a nice cup of tea with scones and cream too? The only way these people are going to listen is only if Malta refuses to dispatch the AFM boats for the rescue of these illegals. We have to do something on our own very urgently, the island is full up. If the do-gooders say a single word on here everybody should tell them to host these illegals at their homes and pay for their upkeep too.
This was widely expected to happen when Libya was thrown into chaos by a bunch of armed rebels who are terrorists. Yes that is what the BBC are now calling them.
CEllul
Apr 8th 2011, 09:54
That's a good idea indeed Joe. While we're at it lets organize charter flights for immigrants to Rome. They can settle in the Vatican if they want.
PS Zammit
Apr 8th 2011, 10:22
@kenneth Galea
I really agree with you.
The problem is that what used to be civilians now have turned up to be equal as Gaddafi arms as they got armed too, therefore it is not anymore troops against civilians.
R Salilba
Apr 8th 2011, 10:37
Ohh, Come off it Kenneth. They NEED help. Leaving them stranded is out of the question. The best thing is to help these people. If the Eu won't listen, there can be a simple solution. Grant all of them a visa and give them a free one way ticket to Europe. It could be an expense, but deep down we will know that a good deed has been done to these poor souls.
T. Cardona
Apr 8th 2011, 10:37
@ Joe Borg
Francesco d'Assisi would have done precisely that.
All Organised Religions have become nothing less than other large business enterprises. But then again, Francesco's ideals were already forgotten while he was still alive. If Francesco was with us now, he would have opened all churches including the Vatican for all those who are roofless.
H Bartolo
Apr 8th 2011, 10:51
ASpiteri if you expect me as a Christian to welcome my country's invaders than I shall leave Christianity rather than allow them to invade my country. Catholic Church, if you keep supporting the illegal immigrants I and my family shall renounce to my Catholic faith like others have been doing and even requesting that they be removed from the Church baptism registers.
Stephen Farrugia
Apr 8th 2011, 10:52
I think we could take another two or three million people. Like this we shall have more funds to give the Jesuits. It's a good business after all.
Raymond Cachia
Apr 8th 2011, 12:23
Well the Italians have a saying "troppo bonta, bestialita", they are no fools.
But we here in Malta and especially our Government seem to think that being 'christian' whatever that is supposed to mean, compels us to take in more and more of these people without a thought for our own welfare and wellbeing and commit national suicide.
And the Church in Malta is not looking out for our interests either, with the Jesuits in charge of the Refugee Services for which they get EU funding. When are the Maltese people going to realise that this is all about money - but using Christain charity as an excuse? There is plenty of money to be made by being in charge of operating an illegal immigration service, and of course later on, more money to be made by the businesses when these 'refugees' start to compete with and under-cut the Maltese in employment. What a dirty little scheme! And by the way, when are the Maltese going to take to the streets in protest?