Paul Vincenti, Mosta
Abortion and divorce (1)
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando claims (March 28) that there is no link between divorce and abortion. Unlike Dr Pullicino Orlando, my opinion on this matter is based upon direct experience. Wherever I have travelled, to countries that have legalised divorce and abortion, those working to reverse pro-abortion laws all identify that pivotal moment in their history when they irrevocably weakened the family by legalising divorce.
They recognise that important event as being the beginning of the downward trend that led to legalised abortion and in some cases euthanasia. They are absolutely united in this view. One exception to this is Ireland, the reason being that Ireland has a constitutional amendment that affords the unborn child the right to life from conception.
A similar amendment for Malta has thus far been ignored by the Leader of the Opposition, thus leaving the door wide open to any MP in the future to present yet another Private Member’s Bill this time, however, to legalise abortion. It does not take much to envisage a similar series of events reoccurring in the future.
The link between the divorce way of thinking and abortion is there for all who bother to look; it remains an inconvenient link for some but it is there.
It is disconcerting to hear the arguments being tabled in support of divorce. They include: allowing for choice; being personally against divorce but unwilling to prevent access to divorce for minorities; that divorce is a right; divorce is available abroad so we should legalise it here; that this kind of divorce is responsible and that legalising divorce will somehow make us all the more European.
These are all the very same arguments that the pro-abortion movement continues to use in its relentless assault on the unborn child. We have heard a variety of these from people like Rebecca Gomperts from the abortion ship, from Emmy Bezzina and John Zammit, the very man who brought Dr Gomperts to Malta to campaign for abortion. He is now campaigning for a yes vote with his red and blue referendum campaign bags. One can even read these very same arguments from those who support abortion and who have commented on timesofmalta.com.
Dr Pullicino Orlando states that he is pro-marriage. Similarly, the previous Democrat speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi claimed to be pro-women and pro-family by being pro choice for abortion. She went to pains to remind everyone that she was also a good Catholic who hailed from the city that was named after St Francis, San Francisco.
Should the pro-abortion side in Malta, as they have been trying to do, ever manage to convince people that human life does not begin at fertilisation, they will then move on to perpetrate a barrage of the very same battle-tested arguments used by the divorce lobby today.
They will attempt to convince as many of us as possible that to vote for abortion in exceptional situations is anything but wrong as there is no life at stake.
They will attempt to convince us that to support a form of limited abortion is responsible as it meets the needs of a minority in a plural society.
This is all problematic information that the pro-divorce lobby would rather I did not point out. Having met Dr Pullicino Orlando, I am quite certain that he is pro-life. I fear, however, that he has invested so much into the success of his personal campaign that he is unable to be objective. His intentions may truly be to stop at divorce but he needs to call to mind the resolve and great determination as well as the superior networking skills of those very people he battled and lost against in the Council of Europe three years ago, when the resolution passed against Malta and in favour of abortion.
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Joseph M Camilleri
Apr 1st 2011, 21:13
Messaġġ tat-30 ta’ Marzu 2011, Borġ in-Nadur.Is-Sinjura bkiet tul it-tielet posta tar-rużarju
Għeżież uliedi u wliedi ta’ qalbi! Għid dan lil Fr Hayden u Fr David biex jgħadduh lin-nies.
Uliedi, iva qalbi muġugħa - ngħidilkom. Il-gżira tagħkom, Malta, ħa tgħaddi minn sitwazzjoni diffiċli. Iva wliedi, nerġa’ ngħidilkom: ħa tgħaddi minn sitwazzjoni diffiċli. Tgħaddi u wara li tgħaddi minnha dis-sitwazzjoni diffiċli, Alla jerġa’ jgħaqqadkom flimkien bħala familja waħda. U intom tkunu xhieda għall-Ewropa u għad-dinja kollha.
Iva wliedi, wasal iż-żmien. Iva wliedi, li Malta tħoss ukoll theżżiżiet u taraw bini jiċċaqlaq, b’mod speċjali n-naħa fejn missirijietkom bnew biex tkun difiża: in-naħa tal-port.
Iva wliedi, wasal daż-żmien. Kunu ppreparati għalih kif Noè beda jipprepara l-arka. Ili nippreparakom jien. Ili ngħidilkom jien. Daż-żmien stennewh. Tridu tgħaddu minnu wkoll.
Meta se tiftħu qlubkom għal Ibni Ġesù, uliedi? Meta se tħalluh jidħol ’il ġewwa fil-fond ta’ qalbkom? Fil-qalb tagħkom hemm ħafna pornografija; divorzju; separazzjonijiet; użu ħażin tal-Internet; regħba għall-flus; ewtanasja; abort; adulterju u droga. Meta ħa tneħħu dax-xkiel kollu mill-qalb tagħkom ħa tħallu lil Ibni jidħol fikom?
Tim Ripard
Apr 1st 2011, 21:10
First divorce, then abortion, then euthanasia, then gay marriage, then burning people at the stake and we'll have come full circle.
Gerry Cowie
Apr 1st 2011, 20:33
Paul Vincenti has made it clear here how he sees the link between these two important subjects - divorce and abortion.
Ramon Casha adds his usual one-liner of sarcasm to the debate which shows that he is clearly unable to challenge what Mr Vincenti has to say. Perhaps Ramon would like to explain his comment in a constructive manner? - I doubt it!
I do not understand Robert Callus' point. It would seem he has selected the bits he wants in order to denigrate Mr Vincenti's argument. But it does not appear to have any effect.
Can Rodney Dangerfield explain his few lines? They do not seem to make sense.
David Bonello should note that some campaigners do not want to see what they do not want to see.
This whole debate has got out of hand and both sides have made bad publicity for themselves by their bickering, sarcasm and continued use of capital letters to "shout" at those with whom they disagree.
If only everybody could be as sensible as Paul Vincenti in putting their point across without sarcasm. It really is the lowest form of wit and some use it as their sole form of verbal attack.
C.Busuttil
Apr 1st 2011, 20:24
we might not like to admit it paul, but I believe the maltese share your views...keep up the great work
MBorg
Apr 1st 2011, 18:27
Paul is right. this the way that things start. First we have couples asking for divorce , stating that it is their civil right, next we will have women asking for abortion claiming it as their right.When moral value go down abortion, and eithanasia usually follow divorce. In 2009 there were 189,100 abortions in England and Wales. For 2637 women this was their 4th termination. the 5th for 779 women and the 6th for 214 women. The abortion rate is getting higher every year with some saying that the UK now has " abortion -on-demand." Because of divorce many will move into cohabitation and many will make use of abortion to get rid of children which would be born out of wedlock. Although abortion rate is high children born to cohabiting couples increase every year. With the number of single parents also getting higher every year.and the number of marriages decreasing every year. I challenge anyone to name a country where one can find divorce where couples who choose to marry increase every year and couples who cohabit decrease every year. Dream on. This country does not exsit. Once divorce is in marriage is out.Vote no for divorce.
Giga Vella
Apr 1st 2011, 18:12
Don’t let others decide for you,if your children or relatives are cohabiting, give them another chance to love and be loved ,to have a family again, everybody should have a second chance. Some people can get annulments for their family, like buying pastizzi, but us the common people why do we have to cohabit ,who is rich he can get his divorce overseas and who has got friend at the curia, will get ,annulments,but us cohabit. Don't cohabit but marry so vote YES FOR DIVORCE.
Robert Callus
Apr 1st 2011, 17:30
Emmy Bezzina and John Zammit brought Rebecca Gomberts to Malta and guess what? They issued red and blue referendum campaign bags!!! The link couldn't be more clear, no? Mr Vincenti, when I hear such ridiculous arguments I suspect people like you find themselves in the position of a defense lawyer that knows his client is guilty. Trying to defend the indefensible, screaming "reasonable doubt" citing the most absurd arguments.
Andy Farrugia
Apr 1st 2011, 22:17
On the other hand, your riposte is lucid, sensible and honest-to-goodness! Pull the other one, it's got the bells of Notre Dame on it.
rodney dangerfield
Apr 1st 2011, 15:06
..and what problematic information exactly did you point out ?
What a load of rubbish.
How can someone write so much and say so little ?
J Farrugia
Apr 1st 2011, 14:17
Yes I agree with you. Paul. After divorce, they will want more. Abortion, euthanasia, gay marraiges and other idiotic staff to make us the sodoma of the mediterranean. But I am sure that this referendum will not pass the 50% mark. The maltese are still proud of their families and their roots.
Andre` Vella
Apr 1st 2011, 12:06
April's fool jaqaw?
G Borg
Apr 1st 2011, 15:51
Yes, April fool's day. The fool is he who believes that divorce solves all the problems. And a fool is the one who believes that abortion is a simple solution to get rid of an unwanted, probably embarassing pregnancy! The fdool never talks about emotional consequencies after abortion. Neither any mention about possible physical damage as a result of the abortion! And other such dangers. Yes, the world is full of fools!
Ramon Casha
Apr 1st 2011, 11:37
Sure there is a link between abortion and divorce: Paul Vincenti is against them both.
G Borg
Apr 1st 2011, 15:44
Does this mean that YOU are in favour of them both? A common trend between divorce and abortion is the EGOISM of us adults. Children have no say, no vote, so BOTH in divorce AND in abortion, it is US, the adults, to decide what to do with THEM! Mr Vincenti, like me and many more, are AGAINST this egoism.
David Bonello
Apr 1st 2011, 11:23
You fear that JPO has invested so much into the success of his personal campaign that he is unable to be objective.
So according to you, the intensity and energy which we invest into something we believe in, or campaign for is inversely proportional to objectivity. Do you stop for one moment and consider what you're writing?
Are you saying that all those individuals that campaign unrelentlessly against drugs for example, or child abuse, or women's rights, or the cost of living, or conditions at work, or values in our society become less and less objective just because they invest so much personally, sometimes giving all the time and energy of their life?
Or maybe something passes the test of "objectivity" simply if you happen to agree with it? because you see links which others can't see?
Joe Zammit
Apr 1st 2011, 10:49
On July 13, 1917 the Virgin Mary told the three children of Fatima that “many go to hell on account of the sins of the flesh”. Among the sins of the flesh there is adultery. Padre Pio had regular mystical contacts with God, saints, angels and devils, and used to say that "divorce is a passport to hell". He knew what he was saying and no one could belie him. It is not a joke to go to hell … and to hell for ever!
Divorce leads to hell because it transgresses God’s categorical law on marriage, namely indissolubility. Divorce purports to do what it cannot do, namely to dissolve a validly contracted marriage.
Let no one try to deceive God by planning to live in sin and die in grace. Such a plan will be the devil’s snare. You die as you live!