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Updated: Libyan aircraft denied landing permission

Government: No information that Gaddafi daughter was on board

A Libyan Arab Airlines ATR 42 turbo-prop aircraft is heading back to Libya after having been denied permission to land at Malta International Airport.

The aircraft flew unexpectedly to Malta and when queried about landing permission, the pilot gave details about a flight which was supposed to have come to Malta yesterday.

Landing permission was immediately denied and the aircraft then circled for some 20 minutes south of Malta while attempts were made for the decision to be reversed.

The pilot eventually decided to return home.

Soldiers of the AFM's 'A' Company were seen entering the airport when the aircraft approached Malta.

It is understood that the plane had been carrying 14 passengers. There was no confirmation that the passengers included Aisha Gaddafi, the Libyan leader's daughter. A government spokesman said the government had no information of that sort. A government statement later denied that any confirmation had been made to Al Jazeera TV station.

Meanwhile soldiers are continuing to guard two Libyan Air Force Mirage F1 fighters whose pilots defected on Monday. The pilots are in custody.

Earlier this week, Lebanon refused to grant landing rights to a private plane transporting Aline Skaff, the Lebanese wife of Hannibal, one of Gaddafi's sons.

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Christian Sciberras

Feb 25th 2011, 09:03

Agreed! Can't have said it better myself!

A.Grech

Feb 24th 2011, 12:27

@Ludwig:
I understand what you say, but in truth it is not that easy, and who would want another "Iraq" kind of war which in the end would solve nothing. Those countries who entered Iraq and/or Afghanistan, be it to help rid of a tyrant or for other interests were the focus of harsh criticism and targets of terrorism on a very large scale, not to mention the huge costs to maintain such a long lasting campaign (concepts found in 'the art of war'). Apart from that should Gaddafi fall there may also arise sectarian conflicts for ruling of territory/ies, and from recent media articles the governments of different nations are concerned about this but i'm not an expert on the subject so i might be mistaken. In the end i believe tolerance and just governance are the only way forward but as you can see in everyday life to be tolerant of everything and everyone is a very hard thing to do, and just governance... it's an evolutionary process really.

Jason Falzon

Feb 25th 2011, 09:18

I am with you on the irony of world savers and similar feelings about USA and it's traditional allies.

But I must say here that it's not easy to intervene when each of these countries have several thousand nationals TRAPPED in Libya.

Can you imagine what would happen to the poor non Libyans trapped everywhere like ports and airports, where they are easily found and targetted, if their had to be military intervention?

Right now, even if with difficulty, people are being evacuated. But I have friends that have/had relatives trapped in airports, that reported that mercenaries have actually fired upon civilians in vicinity of airport.

Cannot verify this obviously but that is surely scary!

Mario Camilleri

Feb 24th 2011, 12:41

@Joe Xuereb Lewwel net dawk 14 li geww mumiex hafjin tajjeb min jaf kemm kellom flus fuqhom tajjeb biex nehduwa mil dak il finanzjarju U tieni wahda li kikku kellhom xi suldati fuq lajruplan kinnu jinzlu bil permess u min ghajru u kinnu jatakaw lajruport u jihdu luwra lajruplani tal gwerra taghom u jigri xjigri issa malta xorta ha thallasa qarsa ghax ghandek tkun taf li ghanki lewropa ha thallasa qarsa iktar u iktar jekk idum ma tihu passi fuq dan il genocidju .Iftah ghajnejk sewwa ghax il kbir ghadu qass bida

Silvio Bartolo

Feb 23rd 2011, 22:49

BREAKING NEWS
Col Gaddafi's daughter Aisha denies on state TV that she tried to flee to Malta

Kirsty Vidal

Feb 23rd 2011, 20:06

Sooooo agree with you!!! They think that we are keepers!!!! It was a really hot situation!!!

Kirsty Vidal

Feb 23rd 2011, 20:09

Are you insane???!!!! Keeping Gaddafi's daughter is like keeping the son of the Devil. I totally disagree with you cause we are not keepers of whatever passes around us or on top of us!!! We should stand still for our country cause after all they are standing for their country and that is what we should do!!! Gaddafi fooled us and he will play his evil game whenever he want to!!!!

Joseph Vassallo

Feb 23rd 2011, 20:31

Kirsty Vidal, Gaddafi's daughter is probably the most beautiful woman of this last hundred years. She is not accused of any atrocities and is reputed to be an extremely intelligent woman. What harm can she do if she were on board? Are we saying here that the whole Gaddafi family needs to be slaughtered? Has vengeance ever made anything right? I am as much against the massacre of innocents as the next man, but I still would not be party to any lynching.

JButtigieg

Feb 23rd 2011, 21:20

Just for your information, Joseph Vassallo, Aisha Gaddhafi was the head of the group of lawyers defending Saddam Hussein. So much for her intelligence.

Celine Eisheuer

Feb 24th 2011, 05:19

Joseph Vassallo, I don't see how Aisha Gaddafi's beauty nor her intelligence has anything to do with Malta's decision to deny landing to the flight she was "supposedly" on. It may have been kinder, so to speak, to allow a landing of an unknown flight carrying unknown passengers. However, the plane clearly had enough fuel to return to Libya or elsewhere. So why would it attempt to land here, in Malta? That is something i'm curious to know.
Also, I don't seem to recall anyone mentioning any lynching of any sort...

H. Meilak

Feb 24th 2011, 08:40

@Joseph Vassallo
Captain: We need permission to land.
Tower: Are the passengers ugly or beautiful?
Captain: As far as I know there are 2 harmless beautiful girls, 3 ugly men and 2 ugly women.
Tower: Permission to land granted.
Captain: Shukran!
Tower: Please let down the 2 beautiful girls and fly back to Libya with the rest.


R.Mangion

Feb 23rd 2011, 21:21

BIggest LOLLLLLLLLL of this week gej bil commandoes

Joseph W. Galea

Feb 24th 2011, 02:34

@ Martin Farrugia.

Ha ha ha, and when found guilty, they will be given a ten year sentence suspended for 2 years, ha ha ha. What a farce!

Joseph W. Galea

Feb 24th 2011, 02:38

@ S. Zammit.

You people are getting funnier by the second.

Are you saying that the AFM cannot overpower a few Libyan soldiers? What are they there for? The Sunday parades? Ha ha ha.

Kenneth Cassar

Feb 24th 2011, 08:18

I think you watch too many Rambo movies.

Kenneth Cassar

Feb 24th 2011, 08:18

"BUT, I would like to ask them, what if Ghaddafi or any of his family are on board, will you still want the plane to land?".

Yes, I would want the plane to land ESPECIALLY if there was Gaddafi on it. Then I would expect him to be immediately arrested and sent to face trial for crimes against humanity.

Alas, he wasn't on the plane and the plane did not land in any case.

John Vassallo

Feb 23rd 2011, 20:47

To all tyhose who are fantasizing, stop fantasizing and stop giving clues as to what can be done. During the last war there was a poster which featured a person saying something like don't speak because someone might be listening. Nowadays with internet and other means of mass communication it is more dangerous. So STOP posting and just listen and see the news. I appeal to all media to censor, yes censor in the name of security stupid posts such as those appearing also on this page.

C Bonello

Feb 23rd 2011, 22:06

well said.

A Zahra

Feb 23rd 2011, 18:13

Who do they want to fool? So they allow two warplanes fully loaded with weapons to land and then prohibit a passenger plane from landing. Something is strange about this. The aeroplane is in all probability in on it's way to Italy where it can land with discretion.

Issa naraw jien li kien ghalija kien jinzel. Ahna mhux suppost Newtrali il bieb miftuh ghal kullhadd min imbaghad iqazzizha daqqa ta sieq u barra jew fic cella. Hekk zgur ma tiggieled ma hadd. Ghax hekk issa nahseb nini nini nergghu nillandjaw biex nigbru il Maltin hutna min tripli. Tassew bravu min ha din id decizjoni. Ie Sakemm mhux il Maltin diga kollha lura id dar.



Charles J. Buttigieg

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:27

some hope

A. Mifsud

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:40

Absolutely no doubt about this. Gaddafi is on the brink of collapse...it's only a matter of hours, a couple of days the most. However it's a question of what's happening after....and for this I tend to be extremely pessimistic, as I cannot see light at the end of the tunnel. It's solid black.

C Aquilina

Feb 23rd 2011, 18:26

i think its more the other way round ... his portecting his family to go to war

L Young

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:34

I agree, they should have been accepted and detained till we are sure what's going on. Libya isn't safe and they might be going back to die.

m vella

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:45

Prosit Naville ,that's what I thought too.

Charles Falzon

Feb 23rd 2011, 18:00

I think they can manage without two fighters.

Steve Mifsud

Feb 23rd 2011, 19:28

Ha ha ha, you really watch too many movies

J Camilleri

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:21

As usual I'm sure that most of you 'experts' know better than our authorities. As usual people like you talk nonsense before knowing full details!

Joseph Schembri

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:26

Apples and Oranges buddy.

a.zahra

Feb 23rd 2011, 18:40

Why are you complaining? Are these not the tourists Joey Muscat advised us to advertise for. They came here instead of Libya

Renzo Galea

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:59

it seemed so tempting for me to remind that: "a butterfly flapping its fragile wings in america can cause a tsunami in japan"
we re actually all interconnected, in all senses...

R Saliba

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:31

because all the experts are here M Borg. Sitting in their comfy chairs and speaking like this is some sort of a game.

P. Agius

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:34

Haha do you really now? You sound like one of Gaddafi's henchmen!

R Saliba

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:25

what do you suggest? let it crash?

N. Vella

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:25

And what, stand by and do nothing while it's running low on fuel?

aaron cassar

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:41

halluh ha jinzel li ma murx jikraxja fuqna (alla hares qat)

Chris Vines

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:53

Malta can not become a safe haven for Libya... Saliba and vella, the ignorance is incredible, low on fuel and let it crash are u kidding me? You're going to let an unauthorized air craft land without knowing who is on board. Are you forgetting who Gaddafi is and what he is capable of. Malta should not get involved.

R Saliba

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:26

Chris Vines, Malta IS involved, whether it wants or not. And as mad as he is, Gaddaffi will not attack a EU country. His problem is his people, not other countries. Remember that there are political asylums from Libya in many countries, just like there are from others. So stop it with this scaremongering.

Fenech MD

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:42

Tourism? What if it crashes on the island? On houses?

S.Micallef

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:14

What does this have to do with tourism? If anything it will affect our tourism if we start allowing these surprise planes landing in Malta.

Seriously..think before commenting!

James Grech

Feb 23rd 2011, 22:34

If they plane was low on fuel we would have HAD to let it land by international law! But the plane did not state it was low on fuel (from what i read on various sites) It was an unchartered flight and was trying to land. Which by international law should not be given permission to land! MIA took the right decision here..

Nathalie Gilford

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:26

Nispera li l-Gvern qed izomm quddiem ghajnejh li ghad ghandna il familjari taghna gewwa il Libya li jridu jigu lura.

Kenneth Cassar

Feb 24th 2011, 08:26

Send it straight back? Why not arrest the murderer and let him stand trial for crimes against humanity?

Ronald Cassar

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:15

Haddem mohhok qabel tparla fil vojt!!! Ghandek xi garanzija li dan biss ha jinzel f'dal jiem?! U Jekk nintlew bil Libjani li jridu jaharbu min pajjizom? Ha zommom id dar tieghek Sur Camilleri!!!

Bonello David

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:15

@ Mr Camilleri x'ghandu x'jaqsam il kristjanezmu?

A Chircop

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:17

Ma nistghux nghidu sakemm ma nafux ezatt x'ikun qed jigri. Forsi fuq dan l-ajruplan m'hemmx civilians innocenti imma xi uhud mill-kriminali ta' madwar Gaddafi, per ezempju ...

Charles Sammut

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:22

Sur Camilleri, min jisimghek jahseb li l-Kristjanezmu hu filosofija ta' suicidju. Min jaf min hemm fuq dan l-ajruplan? Tmur int tilqaghhom u tifirxilhom it-tapit ahmar? Jaf fih nies li harbu u jaf fih ci crack commando team li gie biex jiehu lura il-Mirages.

Mario Camilleri

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:29

@bonnelo Mela xi iffiser il krisjanezmu ghaliek li tmur titqarben kull jum?
@Ronald Jekk thaddem mohhok bizzejed tinduna li gaddafi qied imdendel ma habla irqiqa waslet biex tinqata u jekk tejn il lum ghada ikun jaqbilek tinsiex li dawn mimlija zejt u blargument tieghek stess taqa ac cajt

Fenech MD

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:35

Huwa difficli f'dan il-waqt niggudikaw minghajr ma nkunu nafu l-fatti kollha, imma taf x'kienu jghidu l-ghorrief missirijietna? "Min jidhol bejn il-basla u qoxritha jibqa' b'rihitha!"

X'sar minnha l-kostituzzjoni? Mhux suppost li ahna newtrali? U l-Gnus Maqghuda x'inhuma jaghmlu biex jipprotegu lic-cittadini Libjani u pajjizi zghar bhal Malta biex dawn l-affarijiet ma jsehhux?'

Ghaliex hafna mill-ahbarijiet li jikkoncernaw lil pajjizna, nisimghu bihom fuq stazzjonijiet/sites barranin qabel johorgu fil-media Maltija?

N. Galea

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:44

sa fejn naf jien il kristjanezmu li qed tajjat bieh inti jghid li ma ghandekx tigudika!!!!! int min int biex tghid li ahna nies bla ruh u ta qalb iebsa u xnaf jien! fejn taf xhemm fuq dan lajruplan?! periklu go din in naqa ta gzira jonqos!

Christopher Troisi

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:45

Mela fih xfih ghandu jithalla jinzel. Dan nies qieghdin fi stat ta gwerra civili u bhal hekk skond il konvenzjonijiet li stabiliet dinja moderna ghandhom dritt ta refugjati. Issa jekk humiex civili jew kriminali mhux punt. Xorta go stabiliment jew go habs jew jintefghu. Ma nahsibx se jinzel u jmur xi hadd bit tapit lahmar, jew jghaddu minn go l-airport. Ikun hemm l-armata biex jekk ikun hemm xi problema jzommuhom. U jekk gew ghal ajruplani tagghom jistghu johduhom. ghandhom kull dritt ghalihom.

Melanie grima

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:58

sur camilleri

ibda biex ahna dhalna f'din il-bicca bla ma nafu kif u l-kristjanezmu m ghandux xjaqsam f din il bicca. thallatx il-hass mal-bass. inti x garanzija ghandek li mhux xi skop ta xihadd min nies li huma mdawra ma gaddafi? u jekk hu minnu li kien hemm it-tifla ta gaddafi fuq l-ajruplan allura int trid li ngibu l-gwaj f pajizna?? mhux bizzejjed qed jamlu protesti quddiem l ambaxxata jisimhaw li hawn it-tifla ta' gaddafi jridu biex idawru l-kanuni lejna u jahsbuni komplici. hemm nigu komplici ta genucidju jew x ghedt ghax inkunu nizilna l-periklu f pajizna. jekk tinqala xi gwerra u jkun hemm bzonn xi suldati maltin mur int minn ta quddiem ta aqbez ghal pajjizek mhux ghal pajjiz haddiehor meta dahlu lilna fil-kredu u m ghandiex x naqsmu!!! m ghandux xjaqsam kristjanezmu hawn. jekk jinzel xi hadd iehor zommu go darek ghax mhux imbillu qed jghidu li nizlu ghal kenn politiku, x garanzija ghandek li qalu l-verita. tkunx idjota!!! imissek tisthi int u kull min jahsibha bhalek. mhiex raguni tghid fih x fih jinzel. nies bla sinsla!! dak li intom!!

Melanie grima

Feb 23rd 2011, 18:00

@ troisi

m'ghandhom dritt xejn ghal ajruplani, dawk propjeta tal gvern gew. jekk iridu jmorru lura juzaw l-air malta imma l-ajruplani aw jibqaw

Mario Psaila

Feb 23rd 2011, 18:04

Niskanta bl ghageb tal Maltin. 'Minjaf x fih?!' - Xi tridu jkun fih? 1. Jekk fih xi haga ta periklu kien jitlaqa mill ajru, mhux jitlob biex permess biex jinzel u 2. Jekk fih cittadini li qed jaharbu minn gwerra civili ghandna nilqawhom! Sa fejn naf jien Kristu qatt ma qal "ghin lil proxxmu, imma jekk ikun hemm hafna umbad tghinhom xejn, ghax z zejjed kollu zejjed!" Well said Mario - oqbra mbajjda!! Jaf bghatnihom lura l Libya ghal qatla talli huma 'tradituri' u pruvaw jaharbu mill pajjiz, imma ghalina l importanti li nitqarbnu nhar ta hadd!!

Melanie grima

Feb 24th 2011, 06:56

@ both mario

jekk jinzel xi ajruplan iehor la intom DAQSEKK INSARA ilqawhom go darkom....

Mario Psaila

Feb 24th 2011, 17:57

Ghaziza Melanie, Malta hija dari, u huwa propju dak li kont qed nipproponi - cioe li missna hallejnihom jinzlu. Issa jekk dawn kienu refugjati, ma tahsibx li baghtnihom lura ghal qatla?! Kieku ma kienux refugjati konna nibatuhom lura minn fejn gew. Jibqa l fatt pero li hija ironika kif pajjiz li jiftahar tant li ghandu maggoranza Kristjana, ma l ewwel cans li jigih biex jghin lil proxxmu, jibathom lura l hemm. Mario l iehor qalha l ahjar meta qal 'oqbra mbqajjda'.

N. Galea

Feb 25th 2011, 11:28

oqbra mbajda.. nies ta qalb iebsa.. bla ruh lool

Ragiera jonqoskhom inthom!

SScerri

Feb 23rd 2011, 16:47

Whatever we say it is a question of time and when they are out of fuel they will land no matter what... These situations have to be considdered case by case, but you cannot just deny permision to land!

Brian Gatt

Feb 23rd 2011, 17:12

God & Christianisim has nothing to do with the descision not to allow the plane to land it was common sense however the situation is getting critical by the minute, Question is how can we remain completely indipendent? If God forbids a war breaks out and the U.S. decides to intervene (very likely since there is oil in Libya) shall we allow them to use our airport? if we do we will incurr the wrath of the Libyans if we dont we will displease the Americans...... God we are in a FIX !!!

Cecil Herbert Jones

Feb 24th 2011, 18:27

Denying permission to land was a mistake. Anybody fleeing Libya right now, from either side of the divide, has to be seen as a political refugee. As to the hypothical possibility of a war whereby the US would intervene, Malta cannot deny them permission to use our airstrip either. One must remember that the US would supposedly be acting on behalf of human rights act and their intervention would there be humanitarian (albeit the oil wealth in Libya is substantial). Either or, Malta must not deny permission to any foreign aircraft. It would be a mistake otherwise.

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