Updated: Libyan fighter jets arrive in Malta
Two Libyan Air Force Mirage jet fighters unexpectedly flew to Malta this afternoon with their pilots claiming they escaped to Malta after having been ordered to bomb protesters who have taken control of the second city of Benghazi.
The pilots told the Maltese authorities that they left from a base near Tripoli. Their aircraft were armed with air to ground rockets.
The pilots initially asked for emergency clearance to land and for refuelling. Upon landing they were questioned by the police and sought political asylum.
Their arrival followed shortly after the arrival of two civilian helicopters which flew in and landed at Malta International Airport this afternoon carrying seven people.
Informed sources said the helicopters 'escaped from Libya with no official clearance' but arrived in Malta regularly.
Such was the haste of their departure from Libya, that only one of the passengers was carrying a passport. The passengers claimed they are French.
Immigration police are checking the identities of the passengers while holding them at the airport.
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R Micallef
Feb 25th 2011, 15:22
Re the two Libyan pilots who defected to Malta I say well done in not obeying orders to shoot down innocent people, your own brothers and sisters! If, as is reported, they are very high ranking officers...even more well done for giving a clear message and example to your fellow fighter pilots!! I hope more follow your example to avoid further blood shed.
Re the two Mirage jets now under heavy guard ....please calm down..no other fighter jets will be sent to destroy them on our soil. These aircraft are going to sit there for as long as it takes for a new government to be set up in Libya and proper diplomatic channels are established. When a formal claim from a recognised legitamate Libyan Government is made other pilots will be sent to retrieve them that's all.....or they will formally be given to the Maltese people like Libya's ex army Alouette helicopters now in the Maltese Armed forces inventory lest we forget!!
Believe me these 2 jets are the least of any ruling regime's worries! Our concerns should be more for the suffering of fellow men, women and children and to extend our humanitarian help as much as possible.
Mark Aquilina
Feb 23rd 2011, 22:19
A Friend of mine was at the airport on Monday waiting for a relative at the arrivals terminal and saw one of the polits walking out from the arrivals gate and apparantly was talking on his mobile perfect english and had a westerner look and body structure! how come no one noticed or wrote about this and how come the authorities said nothing about this.
Ashley Jackson
Feb 23rd 2011, 18:51
I am confused, who gets to keep the jets? If you get ti keep the jets can you keep the bombs too? Also, do the pilots get to keep the jets? And bombs? Also, also, can I ride in one?
Stephanie Bezzina
Feb 23rd 2011, 18:25
Issa meta jigu jitfaw xi bomba fuq Malta talli zamejnilhom l ajruplani ghawnhekk, imbad komplu ghajdu li sewwa ghamlu halewhom jinzlu Malta. Jiddispjacini ghalihom u jekk nistaw nghinuhom imma b' moghod li ma niperikolawx lilna infusna.
o.galea
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:51
these pilots had no choice... they did the decent thing by coming here.
They deserve as much "protection" as anybody who arrived here by boat !
For all its precious oil, libya should be as rich as Kuwait / Saudi and the rest of them... yet look at it. No wonder they're up in arms.
joe pisanu
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:48
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/1112213/1/.html
Alan Cordina
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:20
I tried ..... I say again..... TRIED...... to follow some comments on here. To be honest I had braced myself for what I may come across, coming from our Military Aviation and Airforces "experts", who in reality would be contributors coming from ALL walks of life, no doubt proficient in their line of work, but who would not recognize a pigeon from an aircraft in the air, never mind distinguishing and knowing in detail all there is to know about any kind of military aircraft and their functions, roles, capabilities ..... and (Ah ! Yes !) ... who actually flies them :) The best one (out of the ONLY 5 I managed to read) was that the Libyan pilots can't fly their own Mirages :) ..... Anyway, I only read 5 and had to stop, as I couldn't take any more. PLEASE, PLEASE, can people who may be proficient, and experts in their line of work and walks of life, but who do not know the difference between a para glider we see flying around Ghajn Tuffieha cliffs, and a jet fighter, please just read these kind of articles, but just don't say anything ? please.
Wayne Mangion
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:13
Quick, re-spray those war birds and put them on e-bay.
Hassan Rachid
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:50
in my opinion maltese goverment will be wise in the mean time .but considering this two pilots many thoughts are not determened..just for some unmercy comments before you write think well ..
Wayne Mangion
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:32
Quick, re-spray those war birds and put them on e-bay.
S Cremona
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:23
A big thank you to those who still uphold the useless daft and utterly sadistic neutrality clause.
If this whole region goes up in flames do not worry. We can wave our idiotic neutrality clause now.
If ever there was a time where Malta - a rock bang in the middle of a turbulent region - has to be a member of NATO is now.
Thanks politicians. You can carry on discussing divorce now. A civil right which was topical 30 -50 years ago!
Hassan Rachid
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:18
as i was reading all of the comments , let me give my opinion about that two pilots ,if they land in the airport illegaly and they escape from their country for the reason of not killiing people ,they are heros. but in my opinion goverment in malta sure have there way to solve this problem as i was there in oct 2010 and i saw the country that it cannot hold any population or troubles .concerning some comments of people kindly have the mercy and be wise in thinking , i live in emirates and most eu citizens are protected and having great life with all the respect .its doesnot mean if two arab pilots will stay in your country you have to think they are garbage .....................
C. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:09
With the landing of these 2 warplanes, Malta is no longer a bystander but unfortunately we are now in it ourselves. Desperate people like Gaddafi do desperate things and he might be afraid that these planes are used against him.
The possibility therefore exists that Gaddafi's planes would attack these planes on the ground in Malta to avoid this. And what's to stop them??? Our WW2 bofors??
We need to ask the EU or specifically Italy for very urgent help to protect our integrity, the earliest the better. One of the reasons we had joined the EU was to become part of a bigger block. Now we need their support asap.
Kyle Montanaro
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:51
EXACTLY! I'll take good care of them :D
S. Degabriele
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:50
Dan huwa articklu li qed jidher illum f'gurnal elettroniku taljan.
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/mondo/articoli/articolo503766.shtml?refresh_cens&fontsize=medium
Quote - "Allerta Italia alzato dopo aerei libici a Malta:
Fonti della Difesa italiana, interpellate ad Abu Dhabi dove si trova in visita ufficiale il ministro Ignazio La Russa, hanno confermato l'innalzamento del livello di allerta, fino al massimo, nelle basi aeree italiane e l'invio nel sud della penisola di elicotteri. La decisione è stata presa dopo l'atterraggio a Malta di due aerei e due elicotteri libici."
Jghid li kif iz-zewg ajruplani nizlu Malta, il-forzi taljani kienu alerted u lesti biex jiddefendu lil l-italja. Mela it-taljani imhasbin u lesti ghal dak li jista jinqala u alla jbierek hawn Malta kulhadd jiddefendi kollox barra lil pajjizu u hawn min irid itihom il-medalji. Ghax ma tarawx aktar il-bod minn imnehirkom please. Min jaf xinhu l-iskop ta din in-nizla. Mhemm xejn biex tifirhu anzi ghandna biex ninkwetaw ghax ahna qeghdin fin-nofs.
Kyle Montanaro
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:44
Well, why not leave them there and take care of them. With all the trouble around the world, it looks like they could be the new contestants to be our new "Faith, Hope and Charity".
Olina Tretyak
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:43
alarabiya.net has another version:
Separately, the pilots of two Libyan fighter jets who landed in Malta on Monday said they had defected after they were ordered to attack protesters in Benghazi, Maltese military and official sources told AFP.
The two men told Maltese military officers on the ground that they were senior colonels in the Libyan air force and one of them requested asylum, as they were getting out of their single-seater Mirage F1 jets.
"One of the pilots requested political asylum," a government spokesman said.
They said they had been forced to flee their air base in Benghazi after it was taken over by protesters, the sources said.
"The two pilots are being held by police for further investigations," the Maltese government said in a statement.
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:41
Read this article and then tell me that there is nothing to worry about!
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/mondo/articoli/articolo503844.shtml
Kevin Formosa
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:29
Who and what else remains to land in Malta??? Veru pajjiz bla sinsla, ibda mill-gvern sal-poplu....
r ferriggi
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:22
some comments,,, like a certain Borg,,,, make me ashamed to be maltese.
where is our famous '' compassion'' , good-hearted people talk etc tc??
we should help ANYONE in a dangerous and grave situation.
mariopandolfino
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:10
Dan qed jaghmel l-istess bhal Sadam Hussien jispara fuq in-nies tieghu b'ajruplani u bit-tankijiet tal gwerra. Dan huwa genocidju u jrid jhallas ghalih kull min qed jippermetti dawn il hnizrijiet quddiem il Qorti Internazjonali.
Sammy Debono
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:09
Great. Welcome them and anyone else who is against violence. But the EU/US partners should help tighten up security. I do not mean handing over our security to the US for God's sake. We do not want to cause some mess for which we then get a simple apology. It would be best for Malta to check the real identity of this new influx of peaple from Libya. My guess is there will be some high ranking fugitive which we should not let pass by unchecked.
John B.Vincenti
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:05
What baffles one the most is the comparative damning silience by the West as regards to Libya's trauma. We hear so much from the USA and UK asking for restraint from Tunisian, Egyptian, Bahreini and Iranian regimes, yet little or nothing directed at Libya's violence. People are suffering and dying for their freedom, yet all we hear is that the price of oil will go up due to Libya's crisis.
Politics, especially western. is a very dirty business.
Joseph Aquilina
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:54
Libya has oil and some democracies/capitalists prefer to have oil then fight for a good cause. What really has come clear from all these protests is how much the U.S. (and at this point the E.U. as well) can't care less about human rights when their interests (oil, military, etc.) are at stake. With protests in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Iran, Yemen and Bahrain, the U.S., and E.U. and where taken by surprise. They have an interest in having these countries keep their regime. And seriously this is not the first time where counties opt for money rather then liberty and justice. The U.K. has liberated the main Lockerby suspect in order to gain reduced prices on gas from Libya. They did not bother about the injustice of such an action, they did not bother about doing business with an oppressive dictator, they just opted for an option that could give them GAS at the cheapest price!! This is the WEST!
Ben Harper
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:56
Mr Vincenti : Please read the international news before you make such stetements because you give the impression that Maltese people only have access to local information / news.
Ahmed Sewehli
Feb 22nd 2011, 02:53
I'm a British-Libyan doctor in Manchester who spent a lovely 2 years at St Edwards College VI form. My family are protesting in Tripoli. The end is very near, but the death toll will be huge. I thank the Maltese people for letting the planes land, please accept more planes if they come your way to prevent further bloodshed.
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:17
It's ok to do charity but Mr. Sewehli, I must remind you that our country is already full of foreigners let alone space is continuously decreasing. May I remind you that our financial situation is not good and we are not living in heaven. If your population is going to come here it will mean a disaster for us. It's unrealistic asking us to take the burden of other countries when we don't even have the means to support ourselves. Why don't you accept them in your home instead? Isn't it too much for us to bear? I believe that if the situation was vice versa we wouldn't be allowed to enter libya so easily let alone take a plane and land wherever we want. And don't tell me it's about racism. It's about that we need to protect our country because the maltese population comes first.
C. Attard
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:09
@ P. Borg
Int bis serjeta?!
R Saliba
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:30
speak for yourself P Borg and not in Malta's name
S. Camilleri
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:59
@P.Borg
I'd normally agree with you but these are exceptional circumstance and if he can do anything to help Libyans ... we should. Too long Herr Ghaddafi and his ilk has sullied the image of North Africa, Arabs and Libyans. If accepting planes AND NOT SENDING THEM back whilst Ghaddafi is in power is of any help then we should accept them
Corinne Vella
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:09
Malta's standards are not Libya's. That is why no one from Malta defected to Libya.
M Psaila
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:25
@ P. Borg - oh shut up will you? Do have any decency left in you? These people are fighting for rights which you and me take for granted.
Kenneth Cassar
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:03
@ Ahmed Sewehli:
Kindly ignore P.Borg's comment. Malta, as a democratic country, will fulfill all its international obligations. Best of luck.
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:54
Then tell me how Italy got their militia prepared for attacks? Why there are armed ships in the Suez? Sure not for Malta but everything begins with small things. Who knows what can happen??? Why AFM have stop leave? There must be something to worry about than. You are so easy in judging others. The most important thing is letting anyone come in like in a hotel.
I never said "sending them back", my comments where to protect maltese because we have nothing to fight with if anything happens. Who knows whether there is some plan at the end.
And for those people saying to shut up - please mind your language. You are able to listen to whatever other nationals want to say but when a maltese speaks you have to show your arrogance.
P. Borg. (the original)
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:59
Kindly ignore the comment by the first P. Borg. This P. Borg stands firmly in solidarity with the Libyan people so that they may eventually topple this brutal dictator. We will gladly help in anyway possible so that this happens as swiftly as possible and with the least bloodshed possible.
Good luck!
Friedrich Plechinger
Mar 1st 2011, 10:47
Hi Doctor Sewehli,
I am Freddy Plechinger, a German who was born in Benghazi and also a former student with Saint Edward´s college in Malta. I am an Airline Captain and was working for many years also in the Middle east and I am erstound and positively surprised that finaly the people in Nord Africa and the Middle east are showing courage and stamina to say enough is enough. All these people want is a life in peace with the privellege of the human rights that most of the western world and else where are enjoying. No wars, no more suffering, no more injustice. I really wish all these people the best of luck and the strength to rebuilt their countries in a way that will be successfull economicaly and politicaly so to show the world that confilicts can be solved also in a human way and that tyrans and dictators have no chance ever to arise again.
The question is, what comes there-after? We Germans had also a very bad history and we do not want it ever again to happen, I hope that that there will be finaly peace down there.
Ahmed Sewehli
Mar 5th 2011, 02:56
Unfortunately my father and three of my brothers were kidnapped in Tripoli by Gaddafi's thugs early Monday (28/2/11) morning. If you google my name you will find links to the story in various media including BBC, ABC (Australia) and Manchester Evening News.
I thank everyone who has posted kind and supportive comments in favour of the Libyan people.
charles grech
Feb 22nd 2011, 00:53
If these jets are sent back to Libya they will be used to attack civilians.
How about we add them to the AFM airwing inventory.
Christian Sciberras
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:24
I agree; it's a great opportunity to increase our arsenal. About time Malta got it's own realistic firepower.
Pule' Carmel
Feb 22nd 2011, 00:18
If I were one of the Mirage jets, I would inform the Malta Tower that I suffered engine problems as I hug the Marsascala/Ricasoli coast, ditch my aircraft at the mouth of Marsamxetto harbour, ejecting seconds before ditching, thus solving multiple political, social, diplomatic and strategic problems!!!
Derek Webb
Feb 21st 2011, 23:32
Dont worry Mr Azzorpardi Col Caddaffi has a few more pressing things than Maltas position and I think an attack on a European country is probably not on his mind at this moment in time.
J Salerno
Feb 21st 2011, 23:13
RIGHT ON MALTA!!!!! FINALLY WE CAN SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN OF SOME USE!!!!
Joseph W. Galea
Feb 21st 2011, 23:03
@ John Azzoppardi.
If that situation ever happens, the Maltese government can always ask for help from the EU as a partner.
If that fails, they could always turn to their permanent friend the U.S. They will not fail.
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:25
I think that accepting everyone in here is not a good idea. May I remind everyone that Libya has fighting equipment including all these jets etc while we have just nothing or almost. Also, who knows the history of these people who are escaping and entering our country. They may be big criminals or go knows what. What if libyan authorities understand that we are hiding their people in here and decide to attack? How are we going to fight back? I do not believe in this thing of the EU. What do you think that they will come to rescue us in a second? Come on. We are just an accessory for the EU, we're not so important. African people are not like the rest of the world, with all due respect. Whenever something happens we moan and moan instead they fight with real arms. Their authorities wouldn't give a damn on sending jets and bombard this little rock in the mediterranean if they want to. They are killing their same nationals let alone if they come to do it with us.
Corinne Vella
Feb 22nd 2011, 09:15
@P Borg. It is thanks to the freedom you enjoy that you are able to say what you think even if you do not make sense while people in Libya do not enjoy the same freedom, no matter how much sense they'd make.
chris
Feb 21st 2011, 22:54
what is more important ? take care of these 9 or 10 people that landed in malta after that they wasn't able to take care of their country ? or take care of maltese people and send them back to fight their own problems? don't you think that we have enough problems on our own ??!! i am only hearing alot of bla bla bla .... but no one have the b.... to take a decision !! Now we'll see if Gonzi and his followers are worth the hundreds of euros they are stealing weekly from maltese tax payers!!!
M. Gafa'
Feb 21st 2011, 22:50
Malta doing business with Libya is now finished, no more business with Libya...Adios Amigos....NO money coming in.
ruth ripard
Feb 26th 2011, 11:47
As i see it, the International committees have been acting prudently (although too slow for most of us) to avoid giving the tyrant Gaddafi the excuse he needs to shift the blame (once again) on a foreign cause for the tragedy currently in his country. He has already tried blaming the US, UK, BinLaden, the DRUG CRAZED youths, and his own downtrodden population. Also, and most importantly, we need to disassociate Libya from Gaddafi and his regime when setting up sanctions, because only the common man will suffer in the long run... at least put the sanctions in place till the situation has been resolved and then extend our hand in friendship and solidarity to a brave nation that is trying to overthrow its shackles. I also believe that most of the people we are seeing surrounding Gaddafi during the ranting speeches are there under duress and probably have their families at risk if they do not pretend allegiance. As for 'refugees' ... with Gaddafi OUT of power there would not be any! What i would really like to see is humanitarian aid sent IMMEDIATELY to Libya's borders to begin helping the LIBYAN PEOPLE.
Joseph Mercieca
Feb 21st 2011, 22:34
Malta is a peaceful Christian nation and is no threat to any other country in the entire world. Do not panic. Libya is not going to hurt you. When things cool down, ask the Libyan government to fetch its fighter aircraft - and don't charge them any take-off fees.
charles philip zammit
Feb 21st 2011, 22:25
these two pilots should be given a heros welcome. they refused to gun down their compatriots on the ground.
Steve Zammit
Feb 21st 2011, 22:13
This is currently circulating on Facebook...
http://www.maltapark.com/item.asp?itemid=1046544
Peter Agius
Feb 21st 2011, 22:07
Watch the footage at Sky News and you will see a very familiar person. What was he doing there?
Daniel Goggi
Feb 21st 2011, 21:57
The Libyan fighters land in Malta, and Italy is on Red alert (maximum level of alert). The Italian media reported that the Italian ministry of defence had the fighters "Allertati al "massimo livello di prontezza" gli Stormi dell'Aeronautica militare di Trapani e Gioia del Colle (Bari), da cui partono i caccia che hanno il compito di intercettare velivoli entrati senza autorizzazione nello spazio aereo nazionale. Sia da Gioia del Colle (con gli Eurofighter) che da Trapani (con gli F16), tutti gli equipaggi sono così pronti a decollare immediatamente, se necessario, per neutralizzare eventuali minacce aeree." http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/mondo/articoli/articolo503766.shtml
And people are taking the p.... out of this. These are very serious matters people.
Karl Rizzo Naudi
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:21
I agree Mr Goggi. These things are not to be taken lightly!!
Roberta Booker
Feb 22nd 2011, 08:23
@ Mr Daniel Goggi
Indeed Mr Goggi! You took the words right out of my mouth!! These are very serious issues!!
Josef Laspina
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:12
@Mr Goggi
Indeed Mr Goggi's is a sharp insight in the matter.
Luke Fiorini
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:17
@Mr Goggi
A very informative comment, it is a shame that not all people can see things through your all encompassing angle
christopher troisi
Feb 21st 2011, 21:56
Its incredible how some people act to other peoples sufferings. I know this is a stupid comment, but I sure as hell hope that if we are ever in need of help from anyone, all these people who are saying we are outside of this conflict will have the shit handed to them. I hope no country would accept their please for help. For if you dsont have any ounce of humanity at least be intelligent enough to realise that if anything happens to us we WILL need help. We WILL be crushed immediatly. So if you inhumane bastards are just inhumane and not stupid... at least realise that we help so we will be helped in our times of needs. May god strike all you stupid inhumane bastards down.
J Fenech
Feb 21st 2011, 21:56
AFM should seize possession of the jets. Pilots should be arrested. We do not know who they are, and what their REAL motives were. Better safe then sorry in that regard. In any case they landed illegally.
Olina Tretyak
Feb 21st 2011, 21:52
Worry not, we will deal with this issue our Maltese way.
We will accept their application for refugee status and will 18 - 81 months consider should we or should we not give it to them.
They will beg us to send them back by that time.
M Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 21:48
Il-kuxjenza tal-Maltin m'hawnx bħala. Ejja nibqgħu newtrali f'din qisu mhux il-ġirien tagħna... imma il-vapuri bl-armi nukleari ħadd ma jibża minnhom għax dawk biżnissss u paċi kristjana biss iġibu magħhom.
Paul Frank
Feb 21st 2011, 21:41
These two pilots are heroes for refusing an illegal order to bomb innocent people. The people of Malta behaved heroically during World War Two by opposing tyranny. Please stand with the people of Libya in opposing tyranny today. Granting asylum to these pilots would be a small but powerful statement. It is the right thing to do.
Daniel Mizzi
Feb 21st 2011, 21:27
U ha jibqghu hawn? Xinhuma ir ragunijiet u l konsegwenzi? filwaqt li nispera li l puluzija qed jaghmlu xogholhom, nispera jghaddu il messagg li Malta mhuwiex il post fejn jigu jipprotegu lilhom infushom ghax wara kollox ma nafux ir ragunijiet ezatti ghalfejn harbu mil libja u gew Malta. Li nafu biss huwa li qed ifittxu protezzjoni politika u nizlu Malta bi skuza ta nuqqas ta fuel. Nispera ma jinghatax il hjiel li malta hija l protezzjoni minn Gaddafi u l post sabiex jaharbu.
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:35
Ezatt, dik il-preokupazzjoni tieghi. Dawn nizlu bi gidba, min jaf x'gideb iehor jaf ikun hemm minn taht. Alla hares kollha jiddeciedu li jaghmlu hekk. Alla jilliberana minn din is-sitwazzjoni. Nispera mhux se jhalluhom jigru lhawn u lhemm qisu qatt ma kien xejn ghax inkella jista jigi kulhadd u jidhol bla dokumenti u jaghmel li jrid. Il-gvern ghandu l-ewwel jahseb biex jipprotegi lil maltin ghax finalment ma nafux x'ghandhom f'mohhhom dawn in-nies. Meta se niefqu nemnu bhal mazzun u nafdaw f'kulhadd???
A.Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 21:27
Let's do our outmost to protect these two very brave men.
I'd rather have some of the cowards who commented below sent to Libya than these two heroes.
Andrew Paris
Feb 21st 2011, 21:26
Lets hope Gadhafi (the same man the Maltese Government shameful does business with) does not retaliate against Malta for holding there planes. He is crazy enough to do so.
Corinne Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 21:11
The right to demonstrate is not a selective prerogative.
Corinne Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 21:08
Two pilots defected after being ordered to ordered to bomb protestors.
What are the other pilots doing?
DGalea
Feb 21st 2011, 21:04
Dr Joe Muscat must be pleased.The first tourist arrivals resulting from the upheaval in the neighbourhood have just arrived!
Ernest Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 21:00
@ John Azzopardi....x'tippretendi li missu ghamel il-gvern....jghidilhom morru lura? mela m'ahniex jew...u huwa inti li ha tipproteggi lin-nies milli jigu attakati. Li hu zgur li l-Gvern ghandu jitlob lill-Ewropa biex jibghat kontigent militari Malta biex jghinuna fid-difiza f'kaz ta attakk mill-Libya...imma zgur m'ghandniex incahhdu il-protezzjoni taghna lil dawn hutna fil-bzonn.
B'daqshekk m'ahniex nindahlu fl-affarijiet ta haddiehor imma bhal ma ghandna naccettaw l-immigranti issa naccettaw lil dawn ukoll. Newtrali iva...Viljakki qatt
Manuel Micallef
Feb 21st 2011, 20:55
If the Maltese government is feeling treatened, then it should consult the opposition and they should ask for the protection or the increased presence of the Italian military mission during these days. A couple of Italian Tornadoes should be enough.
Robert Callus
Feb 21st 2011, 20:52
While one has to wait for the conclusion of the Police, if things are as they seem - that these pilots have defected in order not to kill civilians this is truly admirable.
Defecting is not an easy thing. You are automatically declaring yourself an enemy of the present regime and losing a relatively comfortable job for the unknown.
Keith Goodlip
Feb 21st 2011, 20:49
http://www.maltapark.com/item.asp?itemid=1046544
Kieron O'connor
Feb 21st 2011, 20:46
They must have heard about the referendum...and a chance to express a free vote.
ooops...and then they arrived and realised they are on a new leash....simple question..no choice..."Yes or No"..."Yes or No".
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Martine Borg
Feb 21st 2011, 20:46
Please, Robert Vassallo et al, take a brief moment to consider that people are being killed. Put aside the ridiculous pub-level conversations about AWACS, stolen property and Malta being attacked. This is a historical event. Think about what you will tell your grandchildren when they ask "and what did you do while your neighbours were fighting and dying for their freedom?". Hopefully the answer won't be "I fretted about how this was going to affect my own welfare and peace of mind."
P Borg
Feb 21st 2011, 20:41
"Kieku kien hemm Gvern Laburista, kieku kien jaghmel kampanja ta' riklam massicca..." wish granted Joseph, today Malta is on the Italian, Sky, BBCm Euronews, Al Jazeera and CNN News? Satisfied?
marc caruana
Feb 21st 2011, 21:41
iddahakx nies sur borg taf kemm i sitwazzjoni delikata din ghalina l maltin . jien mal politika ta dal gvern ma nghaqbilx imma f sitwazjoni bhal din trid tkun kawt u tnehhi il partigjanizmu min nofs ax at the end of the day ahna maltin nazjon wiehed mux 50 50 ok siehbi . kun matur. tislijiet
J Abela
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:24
Vavu...
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:40
Sur P Borg jekk jogbok iddistingwi ruhek minni li ilni nikteb fuq dawn il-pagni. Meta tikteb tuzax ismi.
P. Borg.
Feb 22nd 2011, 10:51
Gheziez Sur P Borg u Sur P. Borg,
Jekk joghgobkom iddistingwu ruhkom minni li ilni nikteb fuq dawn il-pagni hafna iktar minnkom it-tnejn.
P. Borg.
John Azzopardi
Feb 21st 2011, 20:34
This situation is very dangerous. We need to keep out of it in the name of neutrality and let the Libyan people handle it. We have fellow maltese in libya and now we have these planes. What if Gaddafi use this excuse to fire some rockets our way. Are we prepared for this kind of involvement. Let us all proceed with cautious because this situation is very fluid and dangerous.
Peter Korsten
Feb 21st 2011, 21:28
What do you think that the NATO forces would do if a neutral and peace EU member state would be attacked by Libya? The F-111s that bombed Tripoli in 1986 may have been retired, but the vast military block to our north would not take kindly to it. Malta may be neutral, but that doesn't mean that non-neutral states would remain passive in such an event. And Libya knows that. They have enough trouble on their hands already; they don't need their military decimated as well.
Denis Pace
Feb 21st 2011, 22:13
Neutrality????
Neutral to what? a despot?
C Cassar
Feb 21st 2011, 22:46
Malta is not on anyone's map. It would be a waste of a missile to fier it on Malta, since it has nothing to offer anybody. So please, stop being so naive in thinking that Malta is thought to have any value whatsoever to anybody apart from 2 people from Libya.
Steve Mifsud
Feb 21st 2011, 22:57
Are you serious? Fire some rockets our way? Do you honestly believe the Libyan authorities haven't got anything better to do? I find your paranoia amusing. The whole world, at long last, is turning against this animal and you want to remain neutral even now. Malta did not steal the aircraft so I doubt they have any problems with this country. At the end of the day, when all the dust settles, these 2 pilots will go back to Libya as heroes - and rightly so.
Michael Ohman
Feb 22nd 2011, 03:34
Other small nations close to our days have been afraid of their neghbours, their people reasoning "neutrality" as defence.
The close aproximity of Malta to Libya may be uneasy, certainly. But the world extends to Libya, not the other way around. Malta is part of Europe and a counted nation in the world. It's not as fragile, not as divorced from the politics of larger countries as it would've been in older days.
And about the word "neutrality". No one and nothing in politics is neutral. Just undecided.
Obeying orders to kill your own should be an example of good morality. Who is the being to condemn such astonishing behavior?
There is an uneasiness among the maltesians as being part of the hurricane of politics around them. I think you should proudly accept and remember these days. Not hide amongst old monuments. It's not the maltesians war, but no one today should through people out who takes the greater risks and stops the fight to reason for a better world.
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:42
@ C. Cassar
Sur Cassar infakkrek li fit-tieni gwerra dinjija hemm kienet ta fuq il-mappa u kieku jigri xi haga kontra il-libya ibqa cert li il-pajjizi kollha ta l-EU isibuna fuq il-mappa imbaghad. L-istess bhal ma gara fil-passat nispiccaw il-bazi ta l-EU u kulhadd diehel u hiereg minn hawn bl-addocc.
JOhn Portelli
Feb 21st 2011, 20:23
Malta needs to be very cautious on this whole situation. We hve no idea what is happening, who will be in government, etc. I for one do not like to see foreign demonstatrors demonstating on our land for their rights. This is a very dangerous situation. we are nuetral and people must respect our nuetrality. Malta cannot afford to mess it up and let this situation reach our shores because it will have a major impact on our tourist industry. in one month times, we have seen massive changes in the North African countries. We as a EU and nuetral country need to really be careful of how to handle this whole situation. To do otherwise, would be suicidal for Malta.
Frank Portelli 2BFRANK
Feb 21st 2011, 20:53
Gerard
If the Pilots apply for political asylum we are bound to grant asylum
If the Libyans want to have their Jet Fighters back - we are obliged not to return them just yet - since we cannot be sure that they will not be used against unarmed protesters.
This Country must stand up to its principles
regards
Dr Frank Portelli
Anthony Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 20:57
Anti Gaddafi demonstrations are being held at Libyan embassies across the world - see link below. Why not in Malta ?
http://multimedia.lastampa.it/multimedia/nel-mondo/lstp/24015/
M. Borg
Feb 21st 2011, 21:40
You actually mean "non-committal", "wouldn;t care less", "I'm ok **** you Jack" don;t you? Like we were neutral when Ceaucescu was butchering and torturing his people; he and the rest of the tin pot dictators like KIM il Sung that we cosied up to when we were "neutral"!
n vella
Feb 21st 2011, 20:22
these 2 airmen have my utmost admiration for they ignored their superiors' orders, meaning no harm to their fellow countrymen!!
N.Grima
Feb 21st 2011, 21:24
Technically they don't have any superiors as Senior Colonel is the highest rank in the Libyan Army.
Christine Bonello
Feb 21st 2011, 23:11
I agree with you 100 % . What they did was brave. They have spared many lives with their actions.
a pace
Feb 21st 2011, 23:16
n vella i coudnt agree with you more !!! these pilots should be rewarded for there bravery !
Peter Xuereb
Feb 21st 2011, 20:12
It is ironic that now Moviment Graffitti should protest to keep these fighters IN Malta rather than giving them back to Libya, where they will end up bombing civilian protesters. And I hope they do pressure that the fighters are kept here! The Maltese Government has the right keep the Libyan Fighters.
Hubert Paul Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 21:23
You have to accept the fact that most of those who were demonstrating are:
1) Maltese Passport Holders / Residents / Citizens as much as you are
2) As a minority, they have a right to voice their opinions
3) The protests were directed at another country's diplomatic services, not Maltese institutions.
Emmanuel Caruana
Feb 21st 2011, 20:04
How come Barack Obama did not condem the killing of civilians like he did for Egypt and Tunisia. ?
CA Miller
Feb 22nd 2011, 03:46
Because we requested that the Americans mind their own business and not interfere - and now we will get our wish ... hopefully.
louis zammit
Feb 21st 2011, 19:59
thanks god they left libya instead of KILLING many many libians.......
where is our chritianity
let us hope that all is over very quick
Gerard Cassar
Feb 21st 2011, 19:58
In such circumstances Libya should send two pilots to regain posession of the planes,and the two pilots who came to Malta must be accepted as refugees. That is the normal international procedure. No country could send pilots who flee from their country backk from where they came No doubt in such circumstances they would be condemned to death . The planes are Libya's property. It is as if they were stolen.
Pierre Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 19:34
Malta can't take the seat of a spectator but we need to stand up for what's right and help other
countries which are in the process opf democracy.... This is a human homocide and Malta and Europe are being like ostriches.
James Zerafa
Feb 22nd 2011, 01:11
Are you ppl insane? Malta should not get involved with this. EU main countries are standing idle and neutral in order to prevent formation of enemies and you want Malta to be the nation which intervenes in this. If Gaddafi (correct me if it's written wrong), is pissed with what is happening in Malta, we could be involved in his targets. I respect the fact that these ppl wanna protest but they should protest in their country since its related and not in Malta. I mean i dont see Maltese ppl living in Australia protesting about high electricity bills. I know its not the point but let's be serious Malta should not get involved or serious changes will take place in our beloved homeland.
A. Slater
Feb 21st 2011, 19:33
Malta is trending worldwide on Twitter
gigi
Feb 21st 2011, 19:30
jekk qed najdu li dawn l ajruplani harbu fl ispazju ta bejn il libja u Malta ghax mobdewx ordni ta attak fuq tunes kif waslu Malta bla armamenti????
Joe Degiorgio
Feb 21st 2011, 23:39
Semplici hafna. Il- pilota ghandu buttuna fil- cockpit li minghajr ma jarma l' isplussiv ta gol- armi jista jarmihom flok jisparhom. Jista jkun illi telquhom x imkien fil- bahar ta bejn Malta u l' Libja.
M. Bugeja
Feb 21st 2011, 19:25
We are obliged to accept the fighter pilots as political refuges, as they have refused orders from their chain of command and deserted, although it would be interesting to see how far the political asylum would reach, considering there could be more yet to come.
On the other hand, there is a precedent for fighter pilots seeking asylum. One example was the 1991 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, when Iraqi pilots fled to Iran rather than fight against Coalition forces. The Iranians retained control of those planes. Whether that happens in Malta remains to be seen. But they'll be interned in Malta for some time, certainly.
Jesmond Micallef
Feb 21st 2011, 19:24
This supersonic machine of Libyan Arab Air Force is a French built Dassault Mirage F1 fighter aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_F1 The rear view is quite revealing as it shows a typical undercarriage designed for unprepared runway surfaces. The Sepecat Jaguar and the Mig 23 also have the same type of undercarriage design too. Such military equipment is usually designed so that it operates under such conditions. http://attach.high-g.net/attachments/10975_214.jpg http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/77/MiG-23_NTW_1_94.jpg The wing is also quite thin with low aspect ratio which is very typical for supersonic military aircraft. Such a wing design is very critical in transonic / supersonic flight. The Lockheed F104 Starfighter is notoriously famous for its wing design, most especially its sharp leading and trailing edges. The Mirage F1 aircraft is powered by a single turbojet engine fitted by an afterburner. The large poded canisters fitted underneath each wing seem to be SNEB rocket pods used in air to ground combat. The other two hardpoints are empty but these can carry missile, drop tanks or other equipment. Drop tanks would enhance the aircraft range considerably but will also limit its top speed due to the extra drag.
Peter Korsten
Feb 21st 2011, 21:32
"The large poded canisters fitted underneath each wing seem to be SNEB rocket pods used in air to ground combat."
In case anybody was wondering what they were ordered to do. Thank you, Jesmond, for the insight into military hardware.
Frans Attard
Feb 21st 2011, 19:21
According to the' Telegraph ' website Gaddafi has fled to Venezuela.
R Saliba
Feb 21st 2011, 19:18
to all those commenting nonsense about Malta this and Malta that, maybe this will put some perspective into the way you are thinking:
http://www.libyafeb17.com/
SPace
Feb 21st 2011, 19:15
I think legally these planes are still property of the Libyan government, whoever it may be. Libyans may send two other pilots to take their property back if so they wish. However, if these 2 pilots refused to fire on civilians, then they are heroes.
Peter Aquilina
Feb 21st 2011, 19:15
This recent news that two Libyan fighter jets landed in Malta clearly confirm that there is a very serious, widespread chaotic situation in Libya. The death toll might be much more than what is reported as between 200 and 300. The population in Libya needs help !! May God be with all the population in Libya.
SPace
Feb 21st 2011, 19:05
This is a critical moment for the maghreb region, and some things may effect us. The situations is very volatile. Though I dont see any reason to panic or make doomsday scenarios or cancel trips. Ultimately, God will never abandon Malta.
Andrew Zammit Manduca
Feb 21st 2011, 19:04
I think its better we grant them nothing and send them back. Why should Malta go through this scare because a political leader has lost his cool. I am sorry but we are being a bit too lenient with these people. First they protest in our own country and then 2 fighter jets come to seek refuge. What will be next? Gaddafi sends his people to kill the Libyans here? I think its best Malta remains neutral to all this because we will end up in one huge mess more than we already are in.
James De Giorgio
Feb 21st 2011, 19:19
Andrew your comment is preposterous... these pilots have refused to BOMBARD protesters for goodness' sake, and have taken a very brave decision! Sending them back means certain death simply because they refused to kill hundreds of people at a go! In Benghazi, security officers who refused to fire on protestors were shot in the head and burnt. I hope your comment was only ignorant of the situation rather than reflective of your general ignorance...
Andrew Zammit Manduca
Feb 21st 2011, 21:43
I am sorry James but you do not seem to realize the power Gaddafi has. All he has to say is one word and the pilots will be locked for and killed here in Malta creating even more tension in our country. From the way you are speak it seems like at this point you do not really care about the safety of our country at all. I do not know about you but I do not fancy seeing any violence in Malta and keeping these pilots here is only risking that. Sometimes in this world you start to realize that first you have to thing about yourself if you want to survive. This is one of the cases. So I stand by the comment I passed before and hope you realize the risk Malta is in by keeping these pilots here.
M. Fenech
Feb 21st 2011, 23:15
@ Andrew Zammit Manduca.
Shame on your comments.
@James DeGiorgio
Very well said, and I agree 100% with what you have stated.
Charles Muscat
Feb 22nd 2011, 01:58
May I ask Mr. Manduca what kind of mess Malta is already in? You cannot put Malta down simply to try and make a little bit of sense in your letter.
Keith Vassallo
Feb 21st 2011, 18:51
If we grant the Libyan pilots asylum, doesn't that give Libya a prerogative to declare war on us? Or am I being paranoid?
Kenneth Cassar
Feb 21st 2011, 18:59
Yes, you are. We are bound by international obligations to grant political asylum. By declaring war on us, Libya would be declaring war on Europe if not the rest of the world. Very unlikely, especially in the circumstances.
R Saliba
Feb 21st 2011, 19:00
Obviously not. If that was the case than we'd be at war with most of Africa.
Hubert Paul Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 19:04
Yes you are. Gaddafi only cares to control his territory at the moment, from which he is loosing his power fast. It's true that he has a mad sense of humour and its totally unpredictable, but the only thing that kept him where he was latetly were good neighbourly relations. If he loses those, nothing is left. I am also preety sure that he does not have any resources for such a paranoid attack, so much so that in his own territory he is using foreign mercenaries!
G. Apap
Feb 21st 2011, 18:43
Bad advert for our tourists, all the ads. and thousands of money we spent to bring tourists to the islands has now gone out the window....NOT A GOOD MOVE MALTA. as the war will spread to our islands if we allow ANY Tom Dick AND HARRY IN.
C Cassar
Feb 21st 2011, 18:50
Don't be so stupid. These pilots are claiming asylum, not attacking Malta. You'd better get back to reading the Beano.
Len.Brown.Vella anglo/maltese
Feb 21st 2011, 18:50
Its a bad advert and a bad image is being spread across the world, as i just heared the news on Sky News and the BBC via satellite., my friends who normally spend time in Malta are going to give it a miss, don't know about the retired Britains what they think of it all, but they too will start packing, wioll kinow more about it to-night when i shall pop down my local for a few jars. L.Vella Gozo
Charles Micallef
Feb 21st 2011, 19:03
@ Les Brown,
let us not get paranoid.... Libya has enough to do at home than to start thinking of bombing Malta because two of their pilots defected...!
Peter Korsten
Feb 21st 2011, 19:57
"...if we allow ANY Tom Dick AND HARRY IN."
Well, a supersonic fighter jet makes a change from a leaking boat, don't you think?
Anyway, there's a difference from poor Sub-Saharan Africans who come to Europe with nothing, and those who forsake their careers and their families, from a very privileged position (I mean, jet fighter pilots, not a street sweeper) because they don't want to kill civilians.
L Camilleri
Feb 21st 2011, 20:13
This has nothing got to do with tourism, or any money spent on advertising.. Get some salt in your heads please. British packing to flee too? Pathetic! Nothing new.... Two fighters landed in closest airport refusing to fire. Should they land back in their base? They are working against violence. Also, the key men of the Libyan army are backing out one by one.. Gaddafi himself is believed to have left the country and fled... Who's in charge now to bomb Malta? Give it a rest.. These are signs that Libyans are getting their freedom back.
Monica Galea
Feb 22nd 2011, 00:29
I wouldn't worry too much about the tourism dollar at the moment. There are people's lives at stake here and Malta is in a position to help and can't ignore them and hope they go away.
Joe Demanuele
Feb 21st 2011, 18:41
Kieku l-gherf ta' dawk kollha li qed jaghmlu das-suggerimenti banali kollha jixhel kieku mhux Malta biss konna nixhelu imma l-Ewropa kollha. Alla hares kellkom tkunu mexxejja ta' xi pajjiz.
Fenech MD
Feb 21st 2011, 18:38
Hope they don't bring trouble. Send them back to Tripoli asap.
Adrian Cardona
Feb 21st 2011, 19:24
Bravu! how intelligent and compassionate. These colonels refused to fire on their own people and risked their lives to escape. And you would send them back to be burned alive. Very impressive reasoning.
Alex Buds
Feb 22nd 2011, 03:18
Your comment is disgraceful. These are brave men and women. They deserve to be treated like heroes for giving up everything to protect their fellow countrymen. The risk they personally are taking here is a thousand times higher than the risk you would be running if Malta treated them as the heroes they are. Shame on us if we treat them any less.
Daniel Schembri
Feb 21st 2011, 18:38
We should explore for oil.
louis scicluna
Feb 21st 2011, 18:37
Malta hanina, hobza w sardina. HA NARAW XINHU GEJJ GHALINA ????
S. Micallef
Feb 21st 2011, 18:36
Dak li qed jigri fil-pajjiżi Gharab bhalissa ghandu jinkwetana hafna. L-aktar dak li qed jigri fil-pajjiż gar taghna l-Libja. Nafu li hemm diversi rabtiet bejn Malta u l-Libja u tul is-snin iż-żewg pajjizi zviluppaw relazzjonijiet ta' hbiberija u rispett reciproku. Tul is-snin ukoll Malta gawdiet minn diversi aspetti fir-rigward tal-Libja, fosthom l-investiment li sar, l-ghadd kbir ta' haddiema li jahdmu fil-Libja... Jigifieri dak li qed jigri bhalissa fil-Libja ghandu jhassibna lkoll ghax johloq insabbilta' fir-regjun tal-Mediterran, b'mod partikulari wara l-bieb taghna. Ma ninsewx li bl-ajru d-distanza bejn Malta u l-Libja hi ta' inqas minn tliet kwarti. Il-kuntatti, anki fiżici, bejn l-awtoritajiet Maltin u dawk Libjani huma kontinwi hafna. Sa ftit tal-jiem ilu biss l-oghla awtoritajiet Maltin kienu fil-Libja ghal tahditiet mal-oghla awtoritajiet Libjani. Zgur li din is-sitwazzjoni ghandha tkun osservata l-hin kollu mill-awtoritajiet Maltin. Bi prudenza u b'ghaqal. Minghajr ghaggla u b'kawtela. Jalla l-affarijiet fil-Libja jkunu risolti fl-inqas zmien possibbli u minghajr l-uzu tal-vjolenza u t-tixrid tad-demm. F'dawn il-mumenti hu importanti li jipprevali l-aspett tar-responsabbilta' u l-ghaqal. Malta hi parti mill-Unjoni Ewropea u fejn nahsbu li ma nkunux kapaci mmexxu u niddeciedu wahedna m'ghandniex nisthu jew niddejqu nirrikorru ghall-ghajnuna. Madankollu dak li qed isehh fil-Libja bhalissa ghandu jinkwetana hafna.
dvella
Feb 21st 2011, 18:32
thanks very much!!!! nice shot.
Peter Seychell
Feb 21st 2011, 18:26
As somebody mentioned before, Al Jazeera blog reports fighter jets fireing on demonstrators in Libya, If this is true, and it is practically impossible to confirm the way things stand, than these fighter plans should be detanied. The article mentions refueling, this would be tantamount to re-arming.
Michael Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 18:25
Make sure they are not given any fuel and these planes are stranded here. If they are given fuel, they might be used by that tyrant against his own people.
dvella
Feb 21st 2011, 18:25
EASY - let's have them confiscated (mirages) and handed over to the aviation museum!!
Jesmond Bezzina
Feb 21st 2011, 18:24
Does this mean Malta now owns it's 1st two fighter jets? If Gaddafi requests their return we should delay as much as possible. Such machines can be used against common people and protesters.
Malcolm Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 18:23
Now we can only wait for the imminent influx of libyan immigrants landing on our shores. Luckily enough when the situation in Libya will cool down, we can return the fighter jets altogether with all illegal immigrants who might come to Malta during this event!
martin chetcuti
Feb 21st 2011, 18:21
Politics apart landing of these beautiful jets was a beautiful sight. I was lucky enough to be near the airport fence.
L Grima
Feb 21st 2011, 18:14
What's happening in Libya is certainly to be condemned.But let's hope that when the deluge of refugee seekers start arriving on our shores, certain northern and central EU countries would be just as sensitive in assisting and accepting such refugees into their countries , rather than turning a blind eye, as they have been doing up till now.
A. Vassallo
Feb 21st 2011, 18:13
@ jbusuttil
Stop speculating on evertything. If you did not see the plane take off, should not have said anything. What you said is just HEARSAY good for nothing. SHUT UP PLEASE. This situation is no joke, even for Malta.
Peter Seychell
Feb 21st 2011, 18:12
...Its funny how some people still believe that Malta is set in some kind of a cocoon and totally effected by what goes on around us... Can anyone today still afford to believe that the solution to international problems lies in adopting a live and let live attitude.
F Gauci
Feb 21st 2011, 18:09
If these people are from Gaddafi's regime and escaping Libya now that all is lost for the great dictator and for them who have supported him, I hope the Maltese government doesn't give them shelter. Hope the govt here knows what it's doing after the big flop some days back of sending Malta's top officials to meet this mass murderer. Shame on them!
T Mifsud
Feb 21st 2011, 18:05
There is a window of opportunity for the Malta here to deploy all resources to extract oil in the disputed areas claimed by Tunisia and Libya. NOW IS THE TIME!
Peter Bonnici
Feb 21st 2011, 18:44
Yes of course. Phone the PM tomorrow after 9am and advise him on this drilling business, will you?
Elaine Debono
Feb 21st 2011, 21:00
So in a time of distress and turmoil for others of your kind all you can think about is how to make money!!! What sort of human are you?
David Gauci
Feb 21st 2011, 18:03
Al Jazeera English is reporting that fighter jets are being used on protestors
John Azzopardi
Feb 21st 2011, 18:02
To me, as a maltese citizen, the landing of these military planes is not acceptable. What are fighter jets doing in Malta. Did they go undetected. Even, if they didn't, Malta would not have been able to do anything. Only our US allies would be able to stop such a landing. I wonder how prepared the EU is, except for EU countries to defend their own countries. If EU wants to be a world economic leader, it needs to beef up it's military to defend all EU countries if the need arises/
Jeremy J Camilleri
Feb 21st 2011, 18:15
US allies?
E Galea
Feb 21st 2011, 18:17
"Sources said that the pilots had initially asked for emergency clearance to land and for refuelling." If an emergency call was made for refueling, then that justifies Malta Control Tower's action. This has nothing to do with fighter intercepts and the like. It is the same situation when Iraq fighter planes fled to Saudi Arabia in the first Gulf War. Only that it is in itself dangerous for us in Libya decides to retaliate against these defectors. What should be expect? And by the way, do you think that the 6th fleet did not detect them? Seriously!!!!!
Ramon Mangion
Feb 21st 2011, 18:40
Whilst I dont know the exact details, if there really was an emergency what do you do ? let them crash at sea ?
Franco J Scicluna
Feb 21st 2011, 18:00
I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE ARE TO RECEIVE MORE OF THIS HARDWARE SOON IT SEEMS CLEARLY THAT AUTHORITY IN LIBYA IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL.
Simon Abela
Feb 21st 2011, 17:56
Finally Down With the Regime of Gaddafi. The Maltese Governemnt needs to stop kissing Gaddafi ass. I am sorry for the Libyan people after 40 years of regime now thier country is in turmoil.
Joseph Calleja
Feb 21st 2011, 17:54
I always said, Let the Middle East and Arab Countries take care of their own problems. All other nations including the US, UK or any other nation should mind their own business. This is an internal uprising and we should stay out of it. Russia lost their patut in Afghanistan and the Us and UK are doomed to the same destiny. I am sure both the US and the UK have their own internal affairs to worry about. Both the US and the UK almost went bankrupt and both economies are up in the air. It all started with the invasion of Iraq by a very not so famous Ex President. " Mission accomplished, he said ". Malta has to definitely stay neutral in this Middle East and Arab World uprising. Our government has enough of it's own troubles to worry about. Enemalta, Air Malta, the Power Station, Divorce, Cohabitation, Honoraria Pay Raise, finishing City Gate and the Open Air Opera House. Not to mention finishing the Cirkewwa Ferry Project etc.
Henry Spiteri
Feb 21st 2011, 18:06
@Joseph Calleja-Every country in the World has its own problems,but this is very seriuos.How can we stay nuetral when innocent people are being killed.We are not living in an other planet.
Paul Sammut
Feb 21st 2011, 18:33
Henry Spiteri go and fight yourself and don;'t involve us or our country Henry.
Joseph Calleja
Feb 21st 2011, 18:51
@Henry Spiteri
I am sure you have heard the phrase " Never, ever get in between two fighting dogs". There is a chance of both dogs turning on you, and you become the victim. Nothing personal. I am sure you have your reasons. And how is Malta going to help?
jbusuttil
Feb 21st 2011, 17:48
From second part of video attached it looks like the jet fighter seems leaving the commercial park. Two options either leaving for take off ( as has already been reported in the blogs attached ) or else shifting to the AFM side of the airport
Edwin Mifsud
Feb 21st 2011, 17:48
Where are Moviment Graffiti members when you need them?
Julian Pace
Feb 21st 2011, 17:48
@robert vassallo: why is this morning's protest unacceptable? why is a pro-democracy protest unacceptable? why are we civil and they are not? you mean the whole Libyan population, pilots and all?
victor pulis
Feb 21st 2011, 17:46
And what if we were to keep these planes? who would fly them? to where? and to do what?
They wouldn't last two minutes in the air if we were to get them airborne that is!
E Galea
Feb 21st 2011, 18:04
If I am not mistaken I believe that in the eventuality that the pilots did in actual fact defect to Malta, then the planes will become Maltese property. Always if I am not mistaken.
wally vella-zarb
Feb 21st 2011, 18:23
@ E Galea. I think that you are mistaken. Even if the pilots did indeed defect (still not clear who they are or what is their intention) the planes would still be stolen property belonging to Libya and the Libyan authorities, whoever they may be, would immediately ask for - and obtain - their return.
Jesmond Micallef
Feb 21st 2011, 18:35
Here, have a read through this famous defection of a Soviet Air Force MIG 25 pilot Viktor Belenko to Japan in 1976. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Belenko
John Frendo
Feb 21st 2011, 18:36
Wrong E Galea. They are State property and considered as Libyan territory the same as a Maltese military ship is considered as Maltese territory.
E Galea
Feb 22nd 2011, 01:15
Thanks for the info, but in the case of Viktor Belenko, te aircraft was not on American soil, and the Japs had the final say!!!! Here we are talking about Maltese soil and the final say is that of the Maltese since they entered our airspace "unauthorised". And if it is still property of the Libyan state, just as the ships registered under Malta and so on, it does not grant permission to enter ports unauthorised.
Jon Shaw
Feb 21st 2011, 17:45
How would they refuel and pay for such?
stephen camilleri
Feb 21st 2011, 17:43
Now is the time for malta to strike oil and not worry about Gadaffi sending war boat to stop us,lets start looking for oil,gadaffi will not stay there for very longer!!!!
dvella
Feb 21st 2011, 18:36
if we do as you say son, we'll have the rest of the world knocking on the door step asking for a share. And am sure you know what I mean!!!
ROBERT VASSALLO
Feb 21st 2011, 17:39
No way we can't let them land in our lovely island MALTA this is totally unacceptable get them out we have no wars we are civil not like them.this morning there was also a protest which i think is unacceptable too .they could have crashed on our families
victor pulis
Feb 21st 2011, 17:31
If we're not careful we may get dragged into this mess. We are just interested observers at this stage but events may overtake us and we'll find ourselves as major protagonists in this tragedy. The Egyptair hijack showed the world that due to our size and limited resources we are incapable of dealing with situations where the rules of law no longer apply
JJ Mercieca
Feb 21st 2011, 17:30
Totally unexpected? You mean totally undetected. What if they were on a bombing mission? They'd have been noticed only after they dropped their bombs. We should ask the US to install an Early Warning station and set up a military base here to help protect our islands since Europe is a bit too pacified. Though now that I think about it Obama is no Reagan or Bush unfortunately ...
Martin Camileri
Feb 21st 2011, 17:36
oh the drama! so exciting ;o) Malta is the centre of the world afterall.. hehe
J Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 17:42
How do you know they were undetected? Were you in the control tower to blabber that they were undetected? INstead of sowing hatred and doubts stop your irresponsible talk and get on with your own business.
Adrian Cardona
Feb 21st 2011, 17:49
@JJ Mercieca qed tparla minghajr ma tifhem siehbi. they were detected.
wally vella-zarb
Feb 21st 2011, 17:56
"Obama is no Reagan or Bush" And for that let us be truly thankful. BTW, are you one of those who still think of Arabs as "Tal-Ħabbażiż"?
dvella
Feb 21st 2011, 18:43
what's the use having an AWACS without SAM, surface - to - air - missiles?? boqq. The US won't provide this service for free, may I believe!! And if they show us the bill beforehand, you'll surely 4get about it.
Joseph Casha
Feb 21st 2011, 17:30
Is it just me that sees this as a VERY dangerous situation to be in?
JOe VELLa
Feb 21st 2011, 17:27
Why are we so doom and stupid, this is very serious, we do not need these planes or choppers. These are hot property, the sooner we get rid of them the better.
Let us remain neutral, with due respect our forces can spit and polish their boots till kingdom come, the fact is we do not have armament to protect ourselves not even from pirates.
Let us take advice from those who came before us: ''We want Malta Independent''. There is a time to laugh and a time to cry and sure this is not the time to be funny!
JJ Mercieca
Feb 21st 2011, 17:35
We wouldn't keep those jets not for foolish "neutrality" or "independance" which are outdated concepts anyways but because they are probably very poorly maintained 2nd hand french jets. Not even the French would want them back.
silvio axisa
Feb 21st 2011, 17:27
auction them on e-bay..and put the money in airmalta's account.!!!
J Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 17:43
One cannot remain NEUTRAL when dictators are killing their own people. We side with the people. But on this one I say let's walk carefully, and instead of condemnations we walk with full diplomacy and a steady hand. No hurries and no false moves. There is our national interest in the line of fire.
v. muscat
Feb 21st 2011, 18:18
the best comment i've ever read on the blogs. nice one
dvella
Feb 21st 2011, 18:45
tajba silv, kieku nimpjegaw nofs malta ma l airmalta!!
Keith Camilleri
Feb 21st 2011, 17:24
If I was the governments I'd be releasing tenders for oil exploration at this point! there is no turning back after this. People have been waiting since the 60's for this day to arrive.
Frank Portelli 2BFRANK
Feb 21st 2011, 17:24
This is an extremely serious development - and we need to handle this situation with great care.
We are a neutral Country and we should take all the necessary steps with the EU and with the UN security council to safeguard ourselves
Frank Portelli
jbusuttil
Feb 21st 2011, 17:24
Heard that planes have left as one was seen taking off.
D Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 17:19
Lets now expect shortly dozens and dozens of boats carrying hundreds of immigrants. Hope the Authorities are prepared for this.....
P. Borg
Feb 22nd 2011, 07:45
You're joking. This country never had a disaster recovery plan let alone a preventive plan.
G.Pisani
Feb 21st 2011, 17:07
Cool, give the planes to AFM, we might need for our oil exploration.
Alexander Morana
Feb 21st 2011, 17:00
........... the polits are French nationals. The Libyans can't fly Mirage jet fighters!
JFarrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 17:17
And you got that info from where?, The Libyan airforce has had Mirage fighters for many a year, the Libyan pilots were in fact trained by the French air force, These are 2 of the 12 they have in service. It could be however that these are in fact French pilots or engineers who were doing work in Libya.
Raymond Sammut
Feb 22nd 2011, 03:20
@ Alexander Morana
Libyans fly their own jets. The Maltese government has a duty to protect these pilots --including their families back in Libya.
J Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 16:57
The helicopter people could easily be members of gaddafi's mercenary force going on their plan B, seeing their plan A being thwarted by the Libyan masses.
Manuel Micallef
Feb 21st 2011, 16:55
We might end up with an airforce after all this mess!!
C Falzon
Feb 21st 2011, 19:18
Not so sure about that. The annual cost of keeping such a machine flying is probably higher than the entire AFM budget.
J Farrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 16:54
In a nutshell, gaddafi is finished, kaput, spicca. Ronald Reagan must be the happiest saint up there in heaven at the moment.
a cassar
Feb 21st 2011, 17:19
Excuse me,but if Reagan has become a saint I should become the 13th apostle !!!
JFarrugia
Feb 21st 2011, 16:54
Excellent aquisition for the AFM, free jet fighters and a couple of choppers, good day for the afm boys. Any chance of a few Mil hind d gunships and a couple of battle ships while your at it.
Karl Consiglio
Feb 21st 2011, 16:48
No more rubbish boats, they will be arriving like this from now on. We should confiscate such planes.
R.Scerri
Feb 21st 2011, 16:47
What's happening? are they bringing the war here?
Dominic Vella
Feb 21st 2011, 16:39
If you were part of the Libyan ruling class and wanted to escape now, to which European nation would you try to travel without a passport? Where would you be able to bribe your way in? Perhaps Greece would be best or Sicily, but the helicopter could not make it that far.
Please choose the reason of your report below: