Absence of MPs was 'bad example,' unions say
The main door of the chamber of Parliament.
The FORUM group of trade unions said today that the fact that yesterday's parliamentary sitting had to be called off because only five of 69 MPs were present, set a bad example.
The unions pointed out that this had happened at the same time as the negotiators in talks on a new civil service collective agreement were being told that electronic systems needed to be installed to ensure that civil servants reported for work on time.
MPs were elected so that, among other things, they served in the House, and they were therefore expected to attend regularly and on time, the unions said.
What happened yesterday was worrying to those workers who did their duty and gave their day's work.
The workers had already expressed their concerns about MPs' honoraria and what happened yesterday certainly did not help, the unions said.
It hoped there would not be a repetition.
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a.spiteri
Feb 5th 2011, 21:30
I have so much to say to these people on their home visits before the election. Yippy
a. spiteri
Feb 5th 2011, 21:19
X'jitmelhu mil poplu
M Gatt
Feb 5th 2011, 18:22
"... this had happened at the same time as the negotiators in talks on a new civil service collective agreement were being told that electronic systems needed to be installed to ensure that civil servants reported for work on time."
The FORUM seems to be out of touch with reality here. The tax departments definitely already use a punch-clock to monitor employees' attendance. The VAT Department's system directly links up to a wages calculation with deductions being made for unaccounted-for time not worked. I wonder how many Government employees worked their hours to the full or had to take leave on New Year's Eve, for example, like their colleagues in the VAT Department did? The sooner the situation is streamlined across the Civil Service the better, I'd say - and that includes our parliamentarians too. After all, what's good for the goose is good for the gander u "jekk tiskongra trid tkun pur", mhux hekk?
VICTOR VELLA
Feb 5th 2011, 10:35
IF THE UNIONS HAVE THE NERVE THEY COULD SEND OUT PEOPLE ON THE STREETS AND TOPLE OUR OPRRESSORS WHO ARE LIVING IN RICHES AND THE PEOPLE IN RAGS.
C.R. Taliana
Feb 5th 2011, 08:54
Setting a good example is surely not an item on their agenda!
john muscat
Feb 5th 2011, 08:16
How about considering a decrease in the MPs salary rather than an increase.
Michael Walter
Feb 4th 2011, 17:21
Must have been an unusualy large number of wedding reception to be attended.15 full time mps would be enough for Malta's population,The country would save all those wasted salaries,and shed a good portion of the other hangers on.
Ramon Mizzi
Feb 4th 2011, 11:39
Would MPs get disciplined from not attend to work like every other worker in Malta? Have to ask this question in this two weights two measure mentality of this island. Dear MPs, stop toying with those who voted you in, or do you want more money to actually do what you promised you? Since you claim that politics are a service to the country, this is surely a dis-service that doesn't reflect the fat increase in your salaries.
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI
Feb 4th 2011, 10:48
"It hoped there would not be a repetition."
How about a punch clock at the entrance of parliament!!
Carmel Cilia
Feb 4th 2011, 09:43
What about the speaker. Is this guy no the one responsible for what happens in parliament. May be he is just there to rubber stamp anything on the government 's side. This institution is fast becoming the most ridiculous collection of members in the whole of the E.U. To add insult to injury these people give themselves hectic rises and the No. One guy says that they deserve it. They also gave themselves a hectic increase in their pension which by the way is not a fixed one but is always issued at par with the adjusted wage. Poor worker, poor voter, poor citizen.
G Psaila
Feb 4th 2011, 11:11
.......not to mention the new parliament building!!!
l fenech
Feb 4th 2011, 09:39
Ma'ttendewx ghax kienu busy jonqfu is-600 Euro mit-2008. Ara jien mal-lewell infaqthom il- 1Euro 16 cents malli xtrajt l-ewwel cilindru tal-gas.
stephen zammit
Feb 4th 2011, 09:20
Hey...go easy on them!!! Maybe they need a wage increase to motivate them!!!!
GRay
Feb 4th 2011, 08:29
Our representatives disgust me. They should not get paid for when they are absent, then you'll see they'll attend. No work, no pay, no vote.
J Farrugia
Feb 4th 2011, 07:46
Dawn l-unions taf meta messhom fethu halqhom ? Meta fi zmien il-Labour il-parlament kien sar teatrin bil-kriminali jassistu u joffendu lill-opposizzjoni ta' dak iz-zmien, meta fil-parlament kien hemm il-vjolenza kontra n-Nazzjonalisti? Meta fil-parlament kienu ghoddhom qatlu lil Hector Bruno li kien qed jadi dmirhu bhala gurnalista? U MHUX ILLUM meta taht in-Nazzjonalisti hawn demokrazija shiha u minghajr skossi. Hemm messu tkellem dan il-forum tac-cekcik mhux illum. Hemm messhom tkellmu meta Deputati laburisti kienu jheddu lid-deputati nazzjonalisti, sahansitra lil mibki Gorg Bonellu DuPuis, kien hemm bully MP Laburista li tajjarlu snienu ta' quddiem b'daqqa ta' ponn. Mela ghax ma kienux fil-kamra?? Din kollha Ipokrizija prima ta' dan il-forum ruman.
Pat Hobson
Feb 4th 2011, 10:31
Or when a PN mp threatened a PL mp with the battery cable!!!! Or trying to bribe some MLP mp to cross the floor?????
P. Borg
Feb 4th 2011, 10:43
Dejjem l-istess diski iddoqq. U iva tatix kaz, nafu li int nazzjonalist tintenn, issa ieqaf u halli lil kulhadd bi kwietu. Nafu ukoll li ghandek nuccali blu quddiem ghajnejk li jattilek kull sens ta raguni u verita. Tinkwetax la thobb tissawwat se nhalluk tissawwat. Skond int ghamlu sew ma marrux il-parlament mela ipprova tmurx ghax-xoghol u ghamel bhalhom imbaghad ejja ghidilna x'jigri ta siehbi.
Qum minn dik ir-raqda u ahseb b'mohhok u mhux btal-partit tieghek.
A. Abdilla
Feb 4th 2011, 10:47
Kollox hawn taht in-nazzjonalisti siehbi, infatti dalghodu melli bdiet niezla ix-xita sibt il-bejt mimli flus li waqghu mis-sema. Kollox ghamel il-partit tieghek ghandek ragun, infatti bih lil malta u kisser li fadal minnha.
Bl-argument bazwi tieghek mela, kull min jiskarta mix-xoghol ghandna incapcpulu. Hallina u ibda ghix hajtek fl-ahhar.
Justin Zammit
Feb 5th 2011, 19:49
Tista tghidilna x'ghandu x'jaqsam ma l-argument ta fuq???!!! Mhux kull partit qala taht l-ihor..!! min psikologikament u socjalment bhaz-zmien 60 meta tkun laburist kont qed tamel dnub (vjolenza psikologika id f'id mal-knisja) u minn vjolenza fizika bhal zmien 80. Kemm nazzjonalisti u kemm laburisti qalaw go fijom.
vera kburi li twelidt daz-zmien fejn at least il-percentagg tal-votanti jivvutaw lil min jaqbillom zdid u dawk ir-Robots ruffjana tal-PN u MLP qed jonqsu naqa naqa.
Ghaziz Robot erga aqra argument ta fuq u ara li il-fatt hu li wara zmien delikat bhal dan u zdiedet il-paga parlamentari...l-MP's kellom il-wicc tost jamlu li ghamlu hemm fuq. hekk biss.
Joe Borg
Feb 4th 2011, 00:50
Their dedication to their work certainly merits a HUGE PAY RISE!
Joseph C Gauci
Feb 3rd 2011, 23:17
The action by parliamentarieans of failing to attend yesterday's sitting is not only dishusting but an insult to the electorate. And this after the gave themselves a hety increase in their pay and honoraria. When are they going to stop treating the electorate with such shameful behaviour. I have no doubt that come next election the percentage of people going to vote will drop drastically. What a shame!
Alberto Mollicone
Feb 3rd 2011, 22:48
Good excuse by the unions; so along with the 69 MPs we'll have an additional 30,000 civil servants roaming around and chatting in cafes.
J.Tonna
Feb 3rd 2011, 20:43
What many have missed is that MP's from both sides of the House were absent. it was not the first time that before a member of the opposition calls "No Quorum" he waits for his friends to retreat from the House.
gxuereb
Feb 3rd 2011, 20:42
Parliamentary sittings should be transmitted on television. This could easily be done through Channel 22 (Education Channel). The public demands to view these sittings and to observe and hear the debates of their representatives. It's a shame how voters are being treated by the highest institution of the country. Mr. Speaker, please take note!
S. Cassar
Feb 3rd 2011, 20:39
And we are spending millions to build a new parliament for......5 MPs to turn up???
a.spiteri
Feb 5th 2011, 21:36
A Greek theatre would do. Very appropriate with no roof. We won't need Renzo for this
C Ellul
Feb 3rd 2011, 20:34
No wonder , our MP do not want to have parliamentary sittings transmitted live of the internet.
MBorg
Feb 3rd 2011, 20:34
Their insensitiveness in pocketing a huge increase, when we are living in this economic situation ,pales after what they did yesterday. It is a shame that they treat parliament in this way. If what some are writing is true , that is that it is not the first time that this happened , how do they have the courage to think that they are worthy of this uncalled for rise ?
I hope that who ever has to decide about this rise takes note of the wishes of the population .
J Oatmon
Feb 3rd 2011, 20:06
A stunning example of a complete lack of professionalism by those supposed to lead in Malta!
Francis Farrugia
Feb 3rd 2011, 19:19
f`gieh is-sewwa u l-verita ejjew nghamlu monument lill-John Bundy ghax veru ghandna pajjiz tal-MICKEY MOUSE.
Mario Gatt
Feb 3rd 2011, 19:19
Tghid fuq din il-performance hadmuha l-onoraria? Ghalhekk forsi qatt ma baqghetx tissemma l-kelma accountability ?? Misshom jisthu. X'ezempju qed jaghtuna!!!!!
G. Camilleri
Feb 3rd 2011, 18:58
Some food for thought! Are GWU and UHM following FORUM UNIONS MALTIN's footsteps and issue a similar Press Release?
Alexander Pace Gouder.
Feb 3rd 2011, 18:29
@ Phil Pryce. - Mela ,they owe the Kaxxa ta' Malta much more. This I have still to check from records but according to what I was told today there are many times when almost if not more then half the members of Parlament are not present for Parlament sittings. This from both sides of the house. Many also enter when the sittings have already started and even half sitting is already over This time we got to know as they have been caught on the wrong foot and the Speaker had to put of the sitting. What a shame.
m. borg (slm)
Feb 3rd 2011, 18:23
I never was interest in going for politics and to run for elections but knowing that if elected I'll get a job which keeps me cosy at home and still get paid with occassional magnificent pay rises I am having second thoughts.
Think I'll form a new party and contest, I'll promise Heaven on earth and guaranteed a place in real Heaven to all those who vote for me.
Now I know why elected politicians are called MPs which stands for Mangia Passigia for some of them.
gonz €500 per/week raise is not enough for you and your cabinet you are working too darn hard €5000/week is more like it , you deserve every penny or should I say eurocent.
Way to go gonz keep giving us reasons to kick you out of Kastilia and the party.
A. Mizzi
Feb 3rd 2011, 18:03
More absenteeism and yet millions are going to be "invested " in a new parliament building ...when sittings are not even attended in the existing one!
Has the fountain in St. George's Square losing its appeal and not proving to be an incentive to MPs to attend parliament?
Maybe they went off too look for a part-time job after their salary increase was reduced from €600 to €500 a week..
It's tough out there and with the recent increases in gas, fuel and cost of living they need a pat-time job.
W Spencer
Feb 3rd 2011, 18:51
So it takes 69 Members of Parliament to govern a population of 400,000 people, which is about the same as a medium sized European city. ..
A case of so little, achieved by so many ?
Monica Tabone
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:53
U DAWN L-AFFARIJIET JIBQU JSIRU.............GHAX IL-POPLU MALTIN IGERGER BISS U IKOLLU JACCETTA KOLLOX!
Tony Mangion
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:48
Mr De Martino, on previous occasion, confessed that he wouln't mind criticising his Government when there will be enough reason to do so. Yet he condemns JPF who went all out against the honoraria which the P.M. approved to give to his Ministers and other M.Ps. Has this absence of M.P.s from the House confirmed how right were the stands taken by JPF and the L.P.?,
J. Grima
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:40
Tella lil-gvern il-poplu, jhallashom il-poplu u DAK RISPETT MIL-MINISTRI.
U bil-wicc tost kollu irduppjaw il-paga. Li kien pajjiz iehor NINI-NINI..
Issa ftit cejca qabel l-elezzjoni u nergaw koppi. Hu ja poplu.
S. Farrugia
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:29
Ara ghal min qed inhallsu l-Onoraria. Imsieken jaghmlu zewg xoghlijiet. Insomma, forsi kienu leave jew bis-sick, jew bit-time in lieu. Heqq!!!!
J Sammut
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:27
Kemm qisa ghamluha bi sfida, ezatt wara l-kontroversja tal-paga doppja!! Ma jisthux?
Mario Farrugia
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:26
Oxxenita' wahda wara l-ohra....
Zieda bhal dik... u lanqas biss imorru ghal xogholhom!
Kif tista' taghti tort lill-poplu talli jgorr??
Sandra Farrugia
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:19
They were too busy threatening the PM with resigning, and the PM was too busy trying to make compromises with them!!
toni gatt
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:14
Ghandna parliamentari tad-dahk u zufjett u mbaghad iridu z-zieda u jridu l-haddiem ikun serju. Jien laburist imma nistenna aktar serjeta mill-laburisti ghax qisna qed nitnikkru minnhom. Mhux ta' b'xejn z-zghazaghn jghidu li m'hemmx differenza bejn blu u ahmar. Il-UNIONS ghandhom jinghaqdu u jinhallu mill-partiti rispettivi u jigbdu lejn il-haddiem. Nghid lill-Gonzi li meta semma li skala ghaxra mal-gvern kien qed jinkludi professjonisti u li ma' qalx kien li dawn ghandhom 900euro paga fix-xahar. Ara x'motivazzjoni jkollok biex tahdem.
Phil Pryce
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:07
Perhaps they were too busy counting their money. So let's see, 600 Euros a week extra, assuming Monday to Friday, divided by 5 = 120. By my reckoning they each owe us, the tax payers, 120 Euros for their day off.
Vincent Galea
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:05
Perhaps they all had diarrhea and their shoes leaked.They are humans after all. : ))
Charles Micallef
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:55
HONORARIA...HONORARIA,,,HONORARIA
......................and do they deserve it??????
gcForte
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:55
.....................Kieku jien il President ta Malta l-ewwel nohrog ` charge ` lil kull membru tal parlament li kienu assenti bla raguni soda.It tieni nordnalkhom li tmorru tghatu spjegazzjoni cara lil poplu wiehed wara l-iehor fuq it T.V ta l-istat, ghaliex ma mortux tghamlu xogholkhom. Ghalhekk hafna cittadini, mod specjali iz zaghzagh qeghdin jitilfu il fiducja fil politikant, ghax qeghed jinduna li mhux ghax ihobbu lil pajjizhom dak li jghamlu, imma ghal buthom.
m attard
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:37
Exactly, well said. What a sad state indeed...
a.spiteri
Feb 5th 2011, 21:38
Iz zaghzagh don't know what is going on. They never watch the news at least the most I know. They just vote as their parents do. Full stop.
A Tanti
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:53
We heard yesterday that Evarist Bartolo could not ask his Parliementary Question because there wasn't a minister present.
Well well well.....they are paid as MPs and as Ministers, and they don't even attend Parliament!!
Next thing we'll hear is that though they weren't present, they were listening to the sitting, from their radios!!
This is sick!
MBorg
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:23
You missed the best part. Not even Mr Bartolo was there. He could not ask the question , who knows where he was ?
apgrech
Feb 3rd 2011, 19:01
Don't forget that they have some travel allowance so they have to take time off to enjoy their trip abroad.
J Farrugia
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:51
Dan minn meta' dan il-forum qed jindahal f'affarijiet li mhumiex kompetenza taghhom? L-ewwel bdew b'tad-divorzju u issa b'tal-Parlament! Dak hemm il-poplu li jiddeciedi ghandhux igeddilhom il-fiducja tieghu f'dawn il-MPs. Mhux ahjar dawn tal-forums jaraw li l-haddiema kollha membri taghhom jaqdu d-doveri kollha taghhom, bla ifs and buts? Biex tiskongra trid tkun PUR anzi PURISSIMU.
O SAmmut
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:00
@J Farrugia
Il forum hu kompetenti daqsek biex jikumenta...
a.spiteri
Feb 5th 2011, 21:47
Qieghed fil minoranza sur Farrugia, bhall elezzjoni li gejja
R Cassar
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:49
The opposition was there to put the question. The government was absent to answer. It is government’s duty to make sure there is a quorum
Stephen Koludrovic
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:48
This surely could be a world record to be mentioned in the Guinness book.
G. Camilleri
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:48
Dear Mr. Lawrence Caruana. They " are sticking their nose in" because they represent thousands of workers who are expected to report on time and give a day's work. If not discipinary actions are taken against them. Ok Sir!!
Lawrence Caruana
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:41
Agree 100% that this should not happen,but how come the Forum group are sticking their nose in?
Jeremy J Camilleri
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:55
Because we're living in a democracy and these unions are participating in the civil section collective agreement negotiations.
Does living in a democracy bother you Lawrence Caruana?
m vella
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:38
incredible but true.
peter gee
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:25
Perhaps if they were better paid they would be more motivated to attend.
William Borg Barthet
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:30
Perhaps if they were more motivated to attend they would be more deserving of our votes.
Lincoln Spiteri
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:32
Fact is that they are already being paid to do the job.
A Grech
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:52
Are you serious? If your comment is not in a sarcastic tone, please let me add that workers will never be excused for absenting themselves from work , on grounds that they are not receiving a decent wage. Why therefore should we keep on excusing our MP's?
FZammit
Feb 3rd 2011, 17:07
Ha ha ha, pity it's not April's Fool, is'nt it?. Good one indeed!
Get some €600 extra weekly simply not to do your job! And you call this "motivation"!? Why not to say we have to fork out this as a "performance bonus" too. Shall we cry or laugh!?
r ferriggi
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:21
ormai......... i doubt if there is 50% of malta and gozo who trusts these guys ( all of them) after all that we have been witnessing.
Mike Farrugia
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:36
I agree 100%. No way am I going to queue to vote next time round.
Adrian Cachia
Feb 3rd 2011, 16:44
Look at what is happening in Egypt. People are dying for the right to vote! I would go to vote...if you are really disgruntled go and write something fancy on the ballot paper :)
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