Updated: Woman dies in Coast Road crash
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An 18-year-old woman died this morning when the car she was travelling in crashed onto the rocks on the Coast Road at Bahar Ic-Caghaq.
The accident happened at about 5 a.m. as the Opel Corsa was being driven towards Qawra.
The car left the road after hitting a road sign and crashed onto the rocks.
A man who was driving the car was injured and rushed to hospital.
The police said the car was driven by a 22-year-old from Naxxar. The woman was from St Paul's Bay.
A magisterial inquiry is under way.
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Roberto Benetti
Nov 29th 2010, 15:34
Well I'm currently working in Dubai, although I had my Maltese Driving Licence I had to do an intensive 1 month course to get the UAE Driving Licence (international) as somehow Malta is not listed as a conversion country and I managed to pass the driving test immediately. Driving in the United Arab Emirates is an everyday adrenalin-rush... fearing for your life. If you can survive and drive well in Dubai, you can drive pretty much anywhere in the world! For sure best roads ever in UAE with lots of live video monitoring/speed/traffic cameras+radars down here, and police patrols the roads 24/7 with such devices mounted on their mobile cars roof which is linked to the operations room so basically they place themselves in random locations/positions. * Hereby link related with Traffic Violations and Fines which can be very costly and the way I see it is that Transport Malta should revise/adopt certain policies to ensure safety in our roads. http://www.dubaipolice.gov.ae/dp/english/e_services.jsp?Page=A26&Id=11137&num2=INF&mainlayid=196
JBugeja
Nov 29th 2010, 14:50
All these comments about drink driving/ over speeding/speed cameras etc..etc.. could all be solved if we had cheaper taxi's and a proper public transportation that work's all over the island. Why do I have to pay 25euro for a taxi just to get me from Paceville to Marsascala?, Or a Bus that works only till a certain hour and will only get me to Zabbar? Or wouldn't be just easier to take a nice shiny sport car out of the garage and risk driving it? Sometime's us "irresponsible youths" don't have a choice.May she rest in peace.
sandro pace
Nov 29th 2010, 20:08
Yes you have. Dont drink beyond the reasonable. And drive reasonably anyhow. We live in a free market. No one can force prices on taximen, some say unfortunately. But that's besides the point. Still, it doesnt gives you any excuses. Youths or no, there are people whose narrow-minded aim on saturday nights, if not in life, is to say 'sirt dahna' jew patata. Thinking that they have the right to become so, and drive back home by whatever mental capabilities they have remained, cause taxis are expensive. Govt. should work on enforcement, not on paroles, leniencies and all that crap. Which gives the wrong messages.
S Saliba
Nov 29th 2010, 22:04
JBugeja if taxis were cheap and we all used them, then we would all be riding in overspeeding high-powered cars being driven recklessly and dangerously.
smifsud
Nov 28th 2010, 22:18
i send my heartfelt condolences to the family of this young beautiful woman may you rest in peace ... my prayers to the family and to the victim of this tragedy and i hope the injured get well very soon ...life is short we must learn from our mistakes and not repeat them and if we do keep repeating the same mistakes then its "insane"
Brian Smith
Nov 28th 2010, 21:35
In the Uk the driver would be charged with causing death through dangerous driving
J. Camilleri
Nov 28th 2010, 15:46
I don't think it's fair to talk about drunk driving, speeding, and whatever.. we weren't there when the accident took place so none of us can judge! That's up to the authorities.
May the poor girl rest in peace and condolences to her family. And my heartfelt sympathies to the young lad who will have to live with the remorse for all his life.
HAVE SOME RESPECT!
Pierre Mangion
Nov 29th 2010, 00:46
In full agreement of J Camilleri. All this nonsense does not but add futher grief to family and this youngster. Instead of airing comments following a tragedy, we should all think and raise public awareness during our daily lives with the hope that such tragedies don't happen again.
Dion Borg
Nov 29th 2010, 12:57
..coming from Paceville,5.00 am..?..the car ended 200m from the road,you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work this one out Mr Camilleri...there's no discipline and respect for each other on our roads..thank God there was no one coming the opposite direction cause it would have been a bigger tragedy...I myself think Police should monitor the roads out of Paceville between 3.00 and 6.00 am and I bet you that it will avoid accidents like these..because the drink-driving law is simply ignored by most drivers.
Pule' Carmel
Nov 28th 2010, 15:31
Since human reflexes are such that one, irrispective of how young he/she is, cannot ever react to what he/she encounters, in anything less thas one quarter of a second, then a slight interruption at speed, would go uncontrolled for at least a third of a second and that is a killer when a car travells at more than 40kilometers per hour. This parameter than any human being will travelled uncontrolled for a period of time after he sees some activity, is the hardest issue a driver need to accept. The younger you are the harder it is to accept. If one owns one of these modern car where one is relaxed most of the time then a fast wake up call to correct the situation will just not be possible, as the relax to activate duration depends on the level of relaxation one is in. In a modern car, we may relax too much to handle quick emergency activities and by the way Superman does not exist in reality! No one can be any faster than what I described. It will kill you if you ever think that you can beat my figures.
Peter Shaw
Nov 28th 2010, 10:52
Granted that the roads have an eneven surface ,potholes etc. But these are known facts about our roads and so one has to be extra careful to handle driving with these road handicaps.So its no excuse to blame the road condition.
Jimmy Wightman
Nov 28th 2010, 09:03
What an appalling waste of a young life. My sincere condolences to the family and her friends.
Without knowing the facts of the case one cannot in fairness judge the actions of this young driver that led to this tragic loss of life (that is for the courts and their experts to determine), but thousands of people use the same stretch of road and don't have an accident. It's not about speed limit (and speed cameras or lack thereof) or the state of the roads, conditions that do not really change that quickly or even those that do change rapidly like early morning dew (weather) or traffic; its about behaviours. For all the comments about speed cameras etc... the least common comodity on roads today is common sense and good situational awareness with an appalling failure of many drivers to recognize the consequences of their actions.
I also pity the young man who will live with this for the rest of his life but I do hope that some sense of justice will prevail when this tragic loss comes to court.
Peter Korsten
Nov 29th 2010, 08:29
IF it comes to court, you mean. You're already presuming that the magisterial inquiry will find enough grounds to prosecute the driver.
The only thing I can say is that the Coast Road is one of the worst laid out on the island and I avoid it like the plague. Curves banking in the wrong direction is just one of the many faults of this road.
alex gauci
Nov 28th 2010, 04:31
jien ma nafx ghaliex l-awtorita nehhew il camera mil- coast road.jiena noghoq ezatt fejn gara dan l-incident,ara ma tahsbux li meta kien hawn il camera ma naqsux bill kbir l-incidenti hawn.kif erjgajna nehhew il camera,is sewwieqa draw li ma ghadiex hemm u rega kullhadd nizzel gas down.jien nohrog kmieni u ma jaghdiex weekend li ma jkunn'x hemm'x xi tip ta incident f'din il parti ta triq il kosta. u haga ohra xtaqt nieghed; IL PULIZIJA FEJN IKUNNU FIL WEEKEND WARRA IS SAGHTEJN TA BIL- LEJL PLEASE. ghaliex tkunn qed issuq lejn paceville wara dan il hin,TITWERWER .PLEASE TIME FOR ACTION.
Grima D
Nov 28th 2010, 01:16
Actually a better solution for these accidents is simple... Better Tarmac on our roads..
you seriously dont know how the roads of malta are with just a little bit of rain.. slipperry as hell.. a car can skid really easely thus making an attempt to brake nearly impossible as the driver loses control. .. nearly 80% percent of the accidents that occur in malta are due to the fact of our state of the art roads.. full of holes and uneven surfaces.. not to mention the high grade tarmac..
GiovDeMartino
Nov 28th 2010, 13:06
U IDDAHHAQNIEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peppi Micallef
Nov 28th 2010, 00:17
So young. May she rest in pace. So, so sad. Sad for herself and sad for her family. Sometimes life is really unfair.
Joseph Galea
Nov 28th 2010, 12:14
Life is whatever you make it, so make it a good one.
Joseph Vassallo
Nov 27th 2010, 20:32
An 18-year-old is not a woman. She is just somebody's kid.
David Smith
Nov 27th 2010, 19:27
My comment is not to cast judgement in this particular case. My the poor victim rest in peace and the driver make a full and speedy recovery.
There are lots of comments about mobile speed cameras and fixed cameras to stop the lunacy. There are many problems associated with these ideas mainly that mobile cameras are not available 24/7 and with fixed speed cameras people get to know where they are.
How about adopting something used often in the UK? Average speed cameras. For example a notorious road has a fixed speed limit and a camera covering all lanes (both directions) is placed one end and the same at the other. Using ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) technology every car that enters the zone is registered also those leaving also the computer works out the average speed. Doing this stops drivers slowing down for a speed camera then speeding up once past it. Drivers caught speeding are fined and any deemed excessively speeding could have their licences suspended.
I am not in favour of picking on motorists but there has to be a change of attitude to make drivers responsible for their actions. Every driver responsible.
John Vella
Nov 27th 2010, 18:13
Where are the road blocks..........its ages ive been into one - where are the alchohol tests in the streets ?? and most of all were are the police at night ??
Conrad Borg Manché
Nov 27th 2010, 17:59
First and foremost I would like to send my sincere condolences to the family of the victim.
In August 2008 I had a similar experience I ended up on the rocks but luckily I am still alive.
I am sorry to say but the authorities responsible for roads safety don’t have a clue in this country and I say this with responsibility. Probably a crash barrier would have saved another life. What are you guys waiting for.
When I had the accident I came across a whole paddle of oil and I had no control anymore and no choice. But luckily I only had slight injuries; the nurses couldn't believe I had nothing serious. It seems that the govt is only interested in collecting fines from the drivers and installing sleeping policemen everywhere but not in providing the proper road safety.
Install the crash barriers once and for all on this bloody coast road.
JAFarrugia
Nov 27th 2010, 17:44
Rip young lady.
Accidents happen, it's a sad part of life, stop sommenting now people it's not the time and place.
Michael Vella
Nov 27th 2010, 17:37
This is really sad and tragic news :(
May God be with the families of both victims involved and give them strength to cope with this tragedy. My heart goes out to the family of the poor girl that lost her life in this accident.
May she rest in peace.
Franco Cassar Manghi
Nov 27th 2010, 17:19
Rest in Peace. I remember you at work last summer :/
Condolences to the family.
Martin Schranz
Nov 27th 2010, 16:22
Mobile speed camera vans would be the solution. Together with a halving of the speed limits, a hefty on-the spot fine and immediate confiscation of the vehicles skipping the speed limit. This would halt the carnage for sure.
C Cassar
Nov 27th 2010, 18:55
only 3% of accidents in the UK are caused primarily by excessive speeding:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1061808/Speeding-drivers-cause-3-car-accidents-figures-reveal.html
Hank Williams
Nov 27th 2010, 19:02
Sure, can you really see the Malta Police to take any of the THREE mobile (laser) speed camera's --which they have since 2000, but appearenlty not use any more [!!!??] to the 'favur' of the 2nd grade fixed radar speed cam's, installed by KDM and his friend of the LCA - in the night between 1 and 6AM when most 'drink and drive' accident happen??? And what about mobile ALCO-tests in that part of the night? The recently ammended law gives them the Legal tool and they have selected a supplier for the testers; but dare the Gov./politicians give them the budget and allow rhem to enforce the LAW??? Happy (binge) hoidays!
Joseph Vassallo
Nov 27th 2010, 20:30
When/where did you ever see a mobile speed camera at 5 o'clock on a winter's morning?
Mary Fisher
Nov 27th 2010, 16:10
All the comments before mine are very justified. Cutting speed would rightly cut mortality on the Maltese roads. But most Maltese will not kill their speed. They are either genuinely in a hurry or too pig headed to allow a car to be infront of them. Most of my life I drove on English roads and yes, we do need some of the English traffic police here or let some of us volunteer to be the eyes of the police while on the road and report those who use their phones while driving, overspeed, send exhaust fumes intermittantly and do all the errors for which if they were abroad they would not be allowed to own a car never mind drive one. On the authorities' side I strongly advise better road surfaces and more police vigilance. Only yesterday I was on the Coastal Road and I remarked how eneven the road surface is and I put that down to the vast amount of rain which Bahar ic- Caghaq usually attracts. Let us please all work together to make Maltese roads safe for ourselves, our children and our visitors.
Abigail Attardd
Nov 28th 2010, 09:43
I agree with what u wrote...i live near the Birkirkara bypass....that road has about 3 speeding cameras if im not going wrong but some people really are in a hurry to get wherever they want to be! They like to speed up more when they are just about near Mater Dei..a women almost caused me an accident not too long ago....when atleast she stopped to see whats up i told her my toughts exactly and she went off almost faster then before she stopped...people need to be carefull on the roads its not just theire life but the people in the car with them and the people outside...my toughts go to the family may this young lady rest in peace and may god give some comfort to her family
Andy Towler
Nov 27th 2010, 15:23
Bad roads don't kill people.
Pure speed doesn't kill people.
Bad drivers kill people.
Suzy Galea
Nov 27th 2010, 16:21
Jiena nahseb qabel ma nikkumentaw fu in nies ahjar naraw ahna kif insuqu mhux niggudikaw lil haddihor!! Bla ebda dubju awn hafna nies li jsuqu bladdocc pero ma tistax tajd li kull min kellu accident u wegga xi had li kien ed isuq bladocc. Huma biss jafu x gara dak il hin!!!
Kondoljanzi lil familja tat tfajla.
Hope a speedy recovery lil guvni.
Flanders
Nov 27th 2010, 16:58
Bad drivers + Slow speeds doesn't kill people
Bad drivers + Bad roads doesn't kill people
Bad drivers + high speeds kills people... therefore overspeeding does kill people...
A. Schembri
Nov 27th 2010, 17:19
I would love to agree with you that spped does not kill people, however you might reconsider...
The faster the speed the bigger the mess...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmMNcOWhjWM
Massimo Costa
Nov 27th 2010, 14:56
Putting up more speed cameras is not going to solve anything. There is a limit to how many cameras you can put. The fact remains that every year a number of people will die in traffic accidents - it happens the world over, and there is no way to completely stop this from happening. As they say, you have a greater chance of being killed in a car than in a plane crash.
This accident happened in the early hours of the weekend. I cannot say for certain, however it is probable that this accident was caused by a combination of drunk driving, and a gung-ho attitude on the part of the driver. It is very easy to lose control of a car when driving along the coast road. Doing things such as pressing the break while entering a turn at high speed, may cause the car's momentum to shift, and the driver to lose control. Most drivers know nothing about vehicle dynamics, and about the behaviour of front wheel drive vehicles. I suggest that such drivers should keep their high speed adventures confined to their video game consoles.
JOSEPH ZAMMIT
Nov 27th 2010, 13:39
For all the authorities concerned:
Using of mobile phones while driving. Yes, this is a major issue. I experienced this more than once, in the mornings, on B'kara bypass and elsewhere. On one occasion a big van in front of me was changing lanes haphazardly and when it slowed down and I overtook it, the driver was seen talking on his mobile.
Abroad, studies were made that even with blue tooth models or mobiles on dashboard brackets, still the distraction is there because it is conversation that weakens the concentration. It is enough to have light conversation + radio/CD music to distract our attention, let alone arguments which totally confuse the attention.
Abroad, during driving tests, the examiner tries to distract the learner by engaging him in conversation--so, the point is to have more control under heavy fines on driving and phoning. Its all a question of ATTENTION and concentration.
Vincent Galea
Nov 27th 2010, 13:34
It only takes milliseconds for the brain to swap from one task to another, but even in that short time can result in shattered lives if a car pulls out in front of you at the very moment you are talking to your partner about her beautiful dress.
In this day and age of wondrous potential of our new technologies something is missing and that something is attention. Is focusing becoming a lost art ?
Joseph Barbara
Nov 27th 2010, 13:16
Another life wasted. God only knows the anguish the family of the victim is in. This accident has marred their lives forever. Yet nothing really effective is ever done to prevent such horrible events. It is useless to have laws unless they are enforced in a serious manner. Most of our law enforcement people simply could not be bothered unless it is a simple ticked for parking etc. Drastic measures have to be laid down and enforced. We have become an increasingly arrogant nation especially where driving is concerned. I challenge anyone in authority to drive for 1 hour and experience no less than 10 violations as though nothing has happened. This is ridiculous. Anyone caught overspeeding should have his/her licence revoked for a number of years. A second similar offence and the car would be confiscated. We, as a nation, only respond when drastic measures are enforced. Most accidents would not be lethal if the speed is not excessive. My condolences to the family of the victim and I pray that the next overspeeding moron won't be the cause of my death or that of a member of my family.
Andrew Borg-Cardona
Nov 27th 2010, 13:10
Just a thought: could comments be blocked on storiesnsuch as this? The way everyone rushes in to pass judgement or deliver his opinion, generally based on little information and plenty of pre-conceived ideas, is little short of ghoulish.
jean micallef
Nov 27th 2010, 17:26
One decent comment. I am 100% with you on this one.
God bless her soul.
g. scerri
Nov 27th 2010, 12:44
Those who immediately jump to conclusions and suggest more cameras (even hidden ones), more wardens (Malta is crawling with them and we all complain) more traps, more of this and that are (1) punishing the majority of law abiding drivers and (2) helping to create a police state which they would be the first to decry.
GiovDeMartino
Nov 27th 2010, 12:31
Excuse me, but I have to repeat: There is a very simple solution: Hidden speedcameras and a fine of 5000 euros for overspeeding and for using the mobile while driving. Confiscation of car for second offence. Taraw x'ghaqal jitrabba.
J Camilleri
Nov 27th 2010, 12:51
Still they won't remain hidden after the first few fines are dashed out. Even if we have our roads full of speed cameras drivers will still eventually find the space to speed up.
Education about responsible driving including for the older generation drivers is the key for safeness in our roads. Furthermore, in this particular case how did you deduct that the driver was over speeding? Like many of you here after every accident you don't know the facts and immediately go ponder about speed cameras, over speeding, etc... Maybe his car overturned on spilled oil.
So tell me how do you know?
However, I do agree with you that for repeated offences a car and drivers license should be confiscated.
wally vella-zarb
Nov 27th 2010, 13:52
For once I agree with you. I would have any car that is involved in a fatality that is caused through overspeeding not only confiscated but crushed, irrespective of its value. Furthermore, to drive the point home, I would have the driver responsible for the accident push the operating button on the crusher himself.
Joe Busuttil
Nov 27th 2010, 15:53
I think that hidden speed cameras are idiotic, as they are only money making gizmos. The real solution is to have more roadside checks to see whether drivers are fit to drive (even if they are sleepy, not necessarily drunk) this accident happened at 5.00 a.m. Possibly this person wasn't even driving that fast, cos at 40km/h you can simply go off a pavement and run off the road, especially the Coast Road which has seen more cars falling off of it for ages. The sad thing is the tragic loss of life, and the unfortunate driver, who will now have to face Court proceedings over manslaughter and worse still, live with the remorse of having killed a young girl. Heartfelt thoughts go to the family of the girl, and to that of the boy as well
dion borg
Nov 29th 2010, 13:34
..definitely you don't know what you're talking about and have no clue of the highway code Mr DeMartino..it's against the EU laws to put a "hidden" speed camera,you have to warn the driver to be aware that it is an accident spot or of any other dangers..and confiscating the driving licence makes more sense rather than the car !!...not sure if you drive yourself after the comments you've put on here..and yes bad road surfaces and lack of road markings lead to such accidents..
jenny Stevens
Nov 27th 2010, 12:21
What a sad waste of a precious life my sympathy to her family.
I do get exasperated when the overtaking lane is referred to as fast lane also when cars just sit in this lane so that anyone behind does not get the chance to over take.
When I see the way that some people drive their cars I am surprised there are not more fatalities
Noel Mifsud
Nov 27th 2010, 12:10
Pity for a loss of life, but moreity for losing a life of someone who is walking, running or driving carefully in the road, and just a sudden face death infront oif his eyes. God may her soul rest in peace. For the young man, I hope his driving licence will be suspended for all his life, he is not having a car in his hand, but a lethal weapon. Thx
Paul Barrett
Nov 27th 2010, 11:56
First, my sincere condolences to the family and friends of the deceased young lady.
Secondly, for all the traffic experts.
We have (from the report above) no idea what may have happened to cause this tragic accident, it could well be a simple puncture or a mechanical breakdown and the speed limit on that particular part of the road is I believe 70 kph.
Any and every road everywhere (not just in Malta) is dangerous. It is the responsibility of every driver to drive in a manner and speed in which he/she can control the vehicle, restricted by both the legal speed limits and the conditions prevailing at the time. True there are many faults with both the construction, road markings and signs on the roads here in Malta but that in turn puts more responsibility on the driver to drive with care.
In general (and nothing to do with this particular accident). There will be accidents, however good the roads, irrespective of speed cameras and it is about time that drivers learn to drive sensibly - always expect the unexpected.
JOSEPH ZAMMIT
Nov 27th 2010, 11:43
Really sad! 18-year old? What a pity? May her soul be comforted.
At 5 am the roads would be slightly wet from a film of dew that descends during the night. i agree with Maria Galea--we are careless and selfish drivers. if we know that our roads are below standard and that not well lit, then why gamble with speed?
I remember the driver who used to pick me up for work for night shift, he used to live in UK, he used to tell me to use the indicators even when the roads are empty--just to get into the habit of using them and this i passed on to my kids.
I admit there is a buzz in speeding, but the risk, especially in Malta, are high and lethal. One can only gain 5-10mins by speeding, but is it worth to gamble your life for those 10mins?
Life is special, a miracle in itself, no use waste it like that.
sandro pace
Nov 27th 2010, 11:31
As much as one improves, ultimately drivers have to adopt to the roads, and not vice versa.
They cannot always be straight and wide. Not even in larger countries.
Other than that, more deterrence. If common sense and discipline cannot be instilled voluntarily they have to be imposed. More (well placed) speed cameras, traps, More breathyliser tests at known places and times of high consumption, rigorously and on a sample basis. No arguments or refusals.
Hot spots are known and few in Malta. There is a lot of revenue to be generated that way, and it would be well gained by the State and deserved. I dont believe in education campaigns. They are a waste of money and airtime. Hefty fines and harsh punishments (not suspended) will do the trick more efficiently and cost- effectively.
Simple things, but business interests and an idiotic car-sanctifying culture are probably standing in the way.
Joseph Tonna
Nov 27th 2010, 11:17
Meta persuna tkun ila ftit snin issuq kulma ikollha l kwalifika, izda mhux l-esperjenza tas-sewqan...
john caruana
Nov 27th 2010, 11:17
According to comments when there are road accidents it is the fault of the roads or the authorities and everyone expects the latter to do something, cameras, crash barriers etc.
When is it that motorists are going say mea culpa. All roads, even the safetest ones, become dangerous if there is over speeding, under the influence of alcohol or drugs. If motorists drive in a responsible manner on the road they are using then fatal accidents should disappear.
My daughter got her licence three years ago. A year after she got her licence she was caught on camera overspeeding. Sha paid the fine and i also simply warned her that another similar ticket and she could forget driving the car again. It seems to have worked.
L Vella
Nov 27th 2010, 12:17
I agree with you 100%. If we just look at the number of atrocious accidents that occur in Italy especially during the weekends, it is evident that speed (sometimes accompanied by drugs and alcohol) are the main culprits of the loss of life. They cannot blame the roads like we do because the roads where these accidents happen are smooth, straight highways. And this is my point - good, long roads 'invite' you to speed (hence the reason for speed cameras on such roads). Accidents beyond the driver's control can still happen even if the road is in good condition (car failure, weather conditions, animals etc) BUT the faster you are driving the higher the impact and the greater the danger of you or third parties being hurt more badly. There is only one equation in all of this SPEED KILLS!
A Vella
Nov 27th 2010, 11:15
@ bajada S
I disagree with you. Lack of cameras DO NOT kill people. It is us who have to drive safely in the first place, we need to be more friendly and educated but unfortunately this is lacking on our roads, and these cases are the results. Its a sad thing to hear about this 18year old woman, but what will we learn from this? Nothing! So we'll wait for the next victim...
Raymond Huber
Nov 27th 2010, 11:02
I have been using this road for the last 38 years on regular basis and I never had one single accident.
The problem is not with the road but with most drivers if they could be called so.
I never drive when I’m tired, sleepy or drunk. I have a life to look after and I intended to keep doing so till the end of my time on this world.
There are to many cowboys out there and they need to be tamed of have their driving license REVOKED. This is what we expect from Transport Malta.
Speed cameras never bother me as I always stick to the limit and use the driving lane except when I want to overtake. Unfortunately we see too many drivers who in the most irresponsible manner drive 30/40 km/h on an 80 km/h road and when you are behind them and try to bring to their attention so that they move to the driving lane that give you fingers. But after all what else can you expect from idiotic drivers behind the wheels?
Sorry for the loss of life and speedy recovery for the injured.
Michael Cassar
Nov 27th 2010, 10:57
Bhalma dejjem ghidt u insistejt; Mhux il-cameras, mhux innehhi l-arbli tad-dawl, mhux inwahhal fis-sigar, izda nibqa' nghid li il-VELOCITA' kollox.
Mark Mercieca
Nov 27th 2010, 10:51
The road should be upgraded to a wide dual-carraigeway whereby traffic in opposite directions cannot overlap. It should then continue as a dual carraigeway through to St. Andrews and connect to Regional Road, and at the other end through to the St. Paul's Bay bypass. This 'motorway' would also have specific entrances and exits so as not to disrupt traffic flow. This would ensure a quicker yet safer journey, provided that proper motorway safety standards are put in place and enforced.
gilbert scicluna
Nov 27th 2010, 21:04
Agree with Mark Mercieca. And what about barriers along all the road? These could even be installed along the middle of the road before someone decides to take a form of action. I frequently make use of this road, being in early morning, afternoons and night since I work in paceville on shift basis. It's all a matter of cowboy driving especially during the night. It's been now long ago since I last met a road-block, so why these have been stopped? And maybe the mobile squad shall be doing frequent spot checks!
Franco Farrugia
Nov 27th 2010, 10:27
I am so sorry for yet another loss.
It's always 'others' that take the blame: not us. We never take the blame for anything. It's the 'other' that is to blame: not us. It's either the Government, the authorities, the pole, the road, the car, .... but not the people who are really responsible.
Speed kills. Get over it.
victor sammut
Nov 27th 2010, 10:22
jiddispjacini bil kbir ghal dawn iz-zaghzagh li qed imutu kwazi tort ta l-awtirito,nitkellem mil esperjenza li ghaddejt minna jien meta kont zaghzuh daqs 30-35 sena ilu,ix-xorb alcahol ghadek isubu tixtrih min kullumkien,u fejnhom ir ROADBLOOKS ghal min isuq FIS-SAKRA ma jarax ART,ir ROADBLOOKS ghandhom isuru kuljum fil weekends u jiqbaw sa fil-ghodu,
Andrew M.
Nov 27th 2010, 10:21
Poor girl, May she rest in peace :(
My deepest condolences to her family!
Wishing a full recovery to the young man
Jimmy Magro
Nov 27th 2010, 10:17
In cases like these one and sundry are always sorry. There is no other way that one feels in such fatal accidents.
But one expect the State to be everywhere as if we have a supernattural State and its citizens expect to have everything from birth to death. Look what has happened in countries where they had excessive public spending and rotten loans.
I hope the magesterial inquiry will be published by the ToM online and tell us the state of the car, the driver and the speed at the time of the accident.
I have driven this road a million times and never had an accident as I know it is a death trap due to its million corners. The best advice is to drive at 45km/per hour.
Amen.
N.Cutajar
Nov 27th 2010, 11:01
Great, that's just what we need, more obstacles driving at 45kph in the middle of the road.
sandro pace
Nov 27th 2010, 11:51
I think Mr. Magro was referring to the coast road, which is a sensible speed to drive at there.
If anyone find it unreasonable, he should not be driving.
Other than that, at 60 kph, you arrive anywhere on the island in half an hour at most.
Jimmy Magro
Nov 27th 2010, 12:58
@NCutajar
I am making a recommendation to the authorities to give the Medal of Truth of Interpretation. Why? Because I never said on all roads: I was only referring to the coast road and secondly I did not say ion the middle of the road.
Plse go to nuna school to learn how to read first.
Anabel Mifsud
Nov 27th 2010, 13:50
I agree Mr Magro but what if you're driving at 45 but someone else..either because of overspeeding, overtaking, or for whatever any other reason in this world ends up crashing in your car head on ...in THAT case does your speeding at 45 , 10 or 100 makes a difference? NO so yes somethings must be done in this road... crash barries the least...
A lot of third parties get injured or even killed in this road...and that s unacaptable
G.Xuereb
Nov 27th 2010, 10:15
I agree with most of you that that road is not the safest road in Malta.
However it's a case of responsability. why should we put up cameras everywhere when its the drivers we need to educate. From the accident footage the driver was obviously driving very fast, what did he expect?
My condolences goes out to the family of the unfortunate tennager.
sandro pace
Nov 27th 2010, 09:39
Useless blaming the authorities in such cases, although roads can be improved. Everyone knows that that stretch of road is perilous by nature, so drive carefully and slowly with eyes wide open there instead of engaging in wreckless adrenaline driven driving, generally speaking. Roads are there to take us from point a to point b, safely, not necessarily in the shortest time or to the maximum of the 'car's performance'. Roads cannot always be straight and wide. Mostly, it's we that have to adopt to the roads, and not vice vera. The only blame that can be apportioned to the authorities is of not installing cameras every half a km on that road, and breatilyser armed police at the exit of entertainment centres. Both as a deterrent and as revenue (yes revenue) for those who want to put other's lives in danger. RIP to the victim. May her family find solace in this difficult time.
Mvella
Nov 27th 2010, 09:31
Before we go jumping on the fact that this road is once again a death trap - can we get the full information on
a) Where they speeding?
b) Was alcohol involved?
c) Where they tired after a night out on the town?
d) Where they overtaking dangerously?
If driving at responsible speeds, in responsible manners, that road is JUST FINE! (bar a pothole here or there) ....
Gerry Said
Nov 27th 2010, 09:23
How sad. My condolences to the family.
K Camilleri
Nov 27th 2010, 08:51
+ 1 in the Road of Death. - RIP.
When are the authorities going to wake up... get a serious traffic expert (cause it seems that in Malta we don't have one) and have a look at this lethal stratch of asphalt? Too much deaths on a regular basis!
clive borg
Nov 27th 2010, 10:10
i think you have to correct one thing, not the road of death but the SPEED TO DEATH... just take a look at the video and try to determine how far the car is from the road and try to determine which one of the above make most sense!
May she rest in peace and the driver get well soon...
Stephen Scicluna
Nov 27th 2010, 08:51
May this accident be an eye opener to those irresponsible parents who let their young children moving about in their cars - jumping from side to side, standing between seats, and hopping to the front.
Steve Zammit
Nov 27th 2010, 08:35
What a sad way to start our day reading this article. May she rest in peace and may the man recover
Something urgent with drastic action needs to be taken...this road has become a death trap:(
M Vella
Nov 27th 2010, 08:31
A terrible accident. May she rest in peace... This is a total MASSACRE!!!!!! I use this road once in a while and often there's an accident. Yesterday another car jumped off the pavement onto to the rocks. Urgent action needs to be taken by the authorities or do we need more DEATHS to decide?!
Alex Vella
Nov 27th 2010, 12:28
The answer is YES Chrisie my son. DEAD RIGHT
J.Apap
Nov 27th 2010, 08:28
SPEED KILLS. AMEN
patrick zammit
Nov 27th 2010, 09:15
A cocktail of alcohol and speed is more lethal!
Christopher Micallef
Nov 27th 2010, 11:21
Uncontrolled speed kills! You're surely not suggesting driving in every outskirts main road at 40kmh are you?
bajada s
Nov 27th 2010, 07:57
WHEN THE AUTHORITIES WILL STOP THIS MASSACRE. put much more cameras where they are needed . that had been a death road for a long time now . no crash bariiers no protection no nothing we dont only need streetlight there but we want protection.another thing patrols should go out often during the night to check on these youngstrers not to stay in police stations sleeping. i had seen them myself and not afraid to state that.
Andrew Cahcia
Nov 27th 2010, 08:45
Dear Sir, Safety cameras in Malta, unlike those in the rest of the civilised world, are not safety camera but tax trap cameras. All of them. The most obvious one is on the Birkirkara Bypass westbound. The appropiate placing for this particular camera would have been before and not after the bend, seriously suspecting or assuming that the individuals, or individual, who took such a decision are dishonest or incompetent. or an absolute imbeciles and nitwits
Anthony Debono
Nov 27th 2010, 09:13
@Bajada S If you are a driver, you are well aware that a considerable number of drivers slow down their cars to the legal limit prior to passing by the speed camera, then speed off again to their former speed once out of the camera's range. Just by adding more cameras increases such instances. By fitting crash barriers, you are only protecting what's behind the crash barrier, in this case, the pavement and the rocks! As soon as you hit the crash barrier, the accident would already have happened. So crash barriers do NOT avoid accidents but protect their innards. What needs to be done, IMHO, is more awareness campaigns, introduce a points system that would eventually lead to license suspension and maybe life suspension for repeated offenders; more use of the breathalyser in certain hours of the day/night and locations; skyhigh insurance premiums for offenders; and the list goes on... @ALL One can easily comment, just as I'm doing, on such sad accidents, but we cannot pinpoint whose fault it is, etc. as we do NOT know the CAUSE of the accident in a 4-sentenced report.
E. Vassallo
Nov 27th 2010, 10:03
Although this is not the moment to argue in this moment of grief for the girl's family, I have to admit I have to agree with you. I think the police have to step up their effort against bully drivers. I think the traffic police do a good job but I don't think it's the same for those stationed in the police stations.
maria galea
Nov 27th 2010, 10:08
It is US civilians who needs to start driving decently..
have you ever been abroad and drove on motorways, especially at night?!!! if not i'll tell you....i lived abroad and you know what?!!! motorways some of them DON'T have lights, people are driving like mad people as if you are in a civil race...and it's very rare to hear about an accident on a motor way. you know why??? because people although everyone is driving with excessive speed everyone uses indicators (here in malta it seems that they come optional with the car), nobody uses the bright. and everyone uses the lanes as it should..... here in malta fast lane does not exist. you see people driving on a by pass, on the fast lane with 50km/h.......if you should blame someone blame US civilians... not the authorities
jscerri
Nov 27th 2010, 10:17
well said Andrew, i use this road on a weekday night. Back when there was no camera i used to speed up as soon as I pass near university and keep on going at a sustained speed except at the roundabouts and this bend. now with the camera i do exactly the same! since a bend will not let you drive at an excessive speed. On the other hand whoever took the decision to place the camera where it is may have made the decision on statistics of accidents in the bypass.
G. Grech
Nov 27th 2010, 11:04
Cameras ?? They might solve some people's financial problems, but not decrease road fatal accidents.
Anthony Debono
Nov 27th 2010, 11:05
@Bajada S
If you are a driver, you are well aware that a considerable number of drivers slow down their cars to the legal limit prior to passing by the speed camera, then speed off again to their former speed once out of the camera's range. Just by adding more cameras increases such instances.
By fitting crash barriers, you are only protecting what's behind the crash barrier, in this case, the pavement and the rocks! As soon as you hit the crash barrier, the accident would already have happened. So crash barriers do NOT avoid accidents but protect their innards.
What needs to be done, IMHO, is more awareness campaigns, introduce a points system that would eventually lead to license suspension and maybe life suspension for repeated offenders; more use of the breathalyser in certain hours of the day/night and locations; skyhigh insurance premiums for offenders; and the list goes on and on...
@ALL
One can easily comment, just as I'm doing, on such sad accidents, but we cannot pinpoint whose fault it is, etc. as we do NOT know the CAUSE of the accident in a 4-sentenced report.
C Cassar
Nov 27th 2010, 11:47
@maria galea: You seem to be a typical Maltese driver using terms such as the "fast lane". Well, the "fast lane" doesn't exist in any country, not even Malta. Except for the inner lane, all other lanes (whether 2nd, 3rd or 4th lane) are overtaking lanes and you should only be in these lanes to overtake another vehicle. After you have overtaken, you should move back into lane 1 (inner lane).
Regarding no lighting on motorways, so what? All countries except Belgium have unlit motorways aoutside of urban areas and most people have no issue with this. I also disagree that everyone is speeding on these unlit roads. Most limits are 130kph, which seems like speeding to anyone from Malta because they simply aren't used to this speed, esapcially for several hours at a time.
I suggest all Maltese taking driving lessons should also be forced to take some abroad (at their own expense) in order to learn proper driving skills. Better to make people spend more money on getting more vital skills than continuing driving to the standard that ends up in an accident so common in Malta like this.
James Coleiro
Nov 27th 2010, 13:33
Andrew Cachia, the only people that are against speed cameras are the ones that don't like any form of control while driving, so that they can speed as much as they like. If this were not so, you would not be complaining against them. Another thing. Re: B'Kara Bypass speed camera on the bend. I have another explanation. The camera was placed on the bend so that drivers will slow down before the bend (and don't tell me that all drivers would do that if a camera was not there), and then by the time they are clear of the camera, they are already on the straight bit driving slowly of course (ghax bilfors) and then they don't have enough road to accelerate and overspeed very much as the roundabout is already in sight and getting nearer. If there was no camera, drivers like you would probably go around the bend at 80km/h and then accelerate even to a 100 or more on the straight. Now tell me I'm wrong.
Andrew Cachia
Nov 27th 2010, 16:39
JamesI i never said I was against safety cameras but against trick trap tax cameras. Safety cameras are always installed and positioned before a bend and not after.
James Coleiro
Nov 27th 2010, 22:52
Andrew, the fact remains that if you always drive within the legal speed limits, the things you choose to call "trick trap tax cameras" would not affect you in the least, bend or no bend. People who are against them, don't like to drive within the legal speed limits. Mobile speed cameras, placed at random would solve the overspeeding problem. I would introduce a system where one's driving licence is suspended for a length of time proportional to how much he is caught driving over the legal speed limit. E.g. legal speed limit is 60km/h. You are caught driving at 65km/h, you get 5 weeks of licence suspension. You're caught driving at 70km/h, 10 weeks suspension. And who is caught driving again while his licence is suspended, double the period of suspension. Caught again, a prison sentence. Then you'll see what careful driving we'd have !!