ADZ condemns bishop's claims that teaching students about contraception was abuse
Bishop Mario Grech's recent statements that the education system may be abusing students if it teaches them about contraceptionwas astounding, Alternattiva Zghazagh said.
It said in a statement that also astounding was the claim that teaching students about contraception in secondary schools encouraged them to give in to the “culture of pleasure”.
ADZ said it supported the clear and professional position of Dr Carabott from the GU Clinic who said “The role of an education programme should be to teach students to live their sexuality in a mature way. Sexuality is more than sex. There is no harm in teaching them about contraception but students should be given all the information: how safe, how unsafe and the health hazarards.”
It said it was irresponsible of Mgr Grech to accuse teachers, presumably of biology and PSD of abusing students for educating them on the theme of contraception.
"Malta is among the countries with the highest teenage pregnancy rate. This is only one side of the coin since sexually transmitted diseases among youth are also on the rise among youths in the Malta and Gozo. Clearly young people need more education, including about to use of contraception.
"It is the responsibility of the state to include the theme of sexuality in the educative system since sexual health is part of youth development."
Moreover, ADZ's Dirk Urpani insisted, to give the impression that sex education only included information about contraceptives was unfair and misleading since currently sex education included information on contraception as well as on other themes such STDs, self-respect, and other themes related to sexuality.
"Accusing teachers of abuse shows a lack of understanding of the positive educational experience in schools around Malta and Gozo," he said.
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Ludeviko Camilleri
Nov 5th 2010, 22:43
Finally, the Church is standing up on its feet. I take my hat off to you Your Excellency and I hope that your views will clean some of the dirtiest minds in Malta. I am a student in a secondary school and I feel disgusted when my Biology textbook promotes the efficiency of contraceptives. I would like to see these words in my textbook. CONTRACEPTIVES ARE MORALLY WRONG. THIS IS THE TRUTH BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT TEACHES THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. I was even more disgusted when the 2007 O Level (Biology) asked a question about contraception including DIAGRAMS. IT WAS HORRIBLE.
Robert Callus
Nov 6th 2010, 11:04
My friend, I'm sure some or most of your fellow students share books or (more commonly) websites where there is much more than a diagram. Unfortunately, unlike your biology textbook, those are a combination of fact and fiction. Your biology textbooks on the other hand, show you the facts, the reality. Then after being inform make your own moral decisions.
The wrong education is easily available. This includes the 'porn world' , which if we are realistic, we must admit it is very available. There are many 'untruths' in that 'world' and they can only be countered by education.
http://robertcallus.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/make-love-not-porn/
Miguel Micallef
Nov 6th 2010, 11:56
You should indicate whether you are being serious or sarcastic, because honestly, it's very difficult to tell. Your words sound crazy, but I know there's more than enough crazy people in Malta. So you might be actually speaking seriously here, in which case, all I can say is, get some help man.
Justin Tabone
Nov 6th 2010, 15:43
I am assuming that you were not disgusted by the diagram of a contraceptive, but of the male sex organ instead....
A contraceptive is just a piece of latex and is nothing to be disgusted about, least of all apply morals to it. On the other hand the Roman Catholic Church also teaches that it is beneficial for its followers to marry and have children - so when you come to this point, ask yourself - will you still remain disgusted by not the diagram, but by the real thing?
Of course, I also take into account that you are still a secondary school student and have yet to mature in some areas of thought. But please understand that the Roman Catholic Church is maintained on Earth by people (supposedly guided by God), and those people are still prone to error, so not everything it teaches is absolute truth.
Mike F Abbot
Nov 6th 2010, 18:34
"I was even more disgusted when the 2007 O Level (Biology) asked a question about contraception including DIAGRAMS. IT WAS HORRIBLE."
you were *disgusted* by a question and a picture in you're biology exam about the contraceptives?
can i suggest you get a life?
michael
Nov 7th 2010, 15:08
then take accounts and economics mate....or study religion.. see how far in life that will take you.
A Vella
Nov 5th 2010, 18:26
David Bonello...
Muslims, jews, buddhists etc etc say the same on christianity. You do know that if your parents fed you muslim teachings when you were young most probably you're shouting "allah hu akbar" and "kill the infidels"?... Oh let me assure you my friend that believing in nothing is much better than blaming everything bad that happens to you on yourself, yet giving all the credit for doing something great to an imaginery friend.
Judging by these comments I say no wonder we are called arabs by europeans. Sex is so much a taboo in this country. Besides who would listen to a preist who doesn't even know what it means to love a woman and be a father? Mons Grech we're in 2010 not 20AD anymore!
David Bonello
Nov 5th 2010, 19:23
Agree. I was just giving a bit of comfort for dvella, hoping that by reading my reply, he would realize how illuded one can get, when thinking someone has some divine right for the Truth, and all others are mistaken.
Monica Gale
Nov 5th 2010, 17:56
R. Camilleri, I think the urge to draw a line between the animal kingdom and humanity as distinct from one another is religiously motivated. Like most things religiously motivated, I think that this particular urge is dangerous. It serves only to lessen the value of the lives of the animals who inhabit this planet.
As for the ability of humans to act immorally, that goes with the complexity of human intelligence. We can commit genocide, torture, and other horrors that actually go against our moral code.
If there are absolute morals – then there must be absolute truths. We should use our vast expanse of information in this age not to simply look at one facet of an issue, but truly try to put the entire puzzle together. We’ll never know everything, but there is certainly no excuse for blatant ignorance, and we owe it to our students to educate them the best we can and with open minds.
Raymond Bezzina
Nov 5th 2010, 17:33
With regards to the 5th paragraph of the above article, it seems to me that the main
problem to the increase in sexually transmitted diseases is promiscuity, and not a
lack of education about contraceptives.
For example, learning on how to use the contraceptive pill will not reduce the risk
of sexually transmitted diseases. On the contrary, I believe that the pill would
increase the risk of such diseases, because of its unprotected sex.
Sex can become addictive in a person. This means that one becomes unable
to control ones sexual desire, and which ultimately would end up in an irresponsable
behaviour. Such people's attitude towards others becomes indifferent, and would only
see them as sexual objects, and they would not even care about what happens
afterwards. We can all see the results of such a behaviour.
The true education that we all need regarding this matter is to learn abstinance and
control.
Zachary Stewart
Nov 5th 2010, 21:38
Contraception education ALWAYS focuses on condoms over the pill. I've never heard of such a program that only teaches the pill. Of course, you don't even address condoms as a major factor in SAFER sex, because you have an unrealistic abstinence-only agenda.
David Caruana
Nov 5th 2010, 16:40
Thank you ADZ and Dr.Carabott!
Your comments and energy are needed to turn the flock into a mature and sensible society.
victor pulis
Nov 5th 2010, 15:59
J.Tonna(1 hour, 8 minutes ago)
Mr Zammit - Qed thallat il-hass mal-basal, is-suggett tal-lum hu differenti milli qed issemmi inti.
Sewwa qallek Sur Zammit. Min hawn jista' jghallimna fuq il valuri u l-moralita sesswali izjed mill isqfijiet? min jahseb li hu Dr. carabott? Billi studja? imma teologija ma jafx!!! U kulhadd jaf li biex tkun espert fis sesswalita l-ewwel ma jrid ikollok hi diploma fit teaologija. Kif qal xi hadd hawn isfel, il hobz tih lil min jaf jieklu...
J.Tonna
Nov 5th 2010, 17:42
@ Mr Pulis & Mr Zammit - Jidher li, jiena, fhimtu hazin lis-Sur Zammit. Naqbel ma dak li ktibt int.
Meta tistudja fuq haga ma tistax thallatha ma' hag'ohra. Per ezempju 'medicina mar-religjon'. Ghandna nitkellmu fuq kollox fil-kontest tieghu.
maria formosa
Nov 5th 2010, 15:46
dEAR Bishop Grech,I AGREE 100 PER CENT WITH WHAT YOU SAID.Keep it up ! Time will prove you are right in fighting this hedonistic culture/
dvella
Nov 5th 2010, 14:11
God's teaching, which is by the way found only in church, is authentic and at the same time so simple!! So if one listens to the word of God, no need to hear what adz and the rest have to say, wisdom will be given - which is one of the Wholy spirits' gift - so that you and I make mature decisions, no matter what their nature is.
To teach a mule don't bring him a clown!!! - cause otherwise aktar jghidulu HMAR
David Bonello
Nov 5th 2010, 14:25
God's teaching, which is by the way found only in church, is authentic and at the same time so simple!! All other church denominations and religions with their multitude of different gods and scriptures are not bad in themselves, but just unauthentic or false, and a bit complicated at times. We should not condemn them though because they are still much better than those who believe nothing. But it is like there are on their way to realize one day that our God's teaching, is only found in church, and is authentic and at the same time so simple!
Edwin Grima
Nov 5th 2010, 13:55
It is not the "culture of pleasure" between consenting adults which bothers me, but between certain adults and innocent children. And what is equally despicable is for "other" adults to try to hide or silently ignore such behaviour for as long as they could get away with it. All I need then is some lesson about the abuse of sexual education to make my day!
J.Tonna
Nov 5th 2010, 13:47
L-Inglizi jghidu li 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing', mela kemm hu aktar perikoluz min ma jaf xejn fuq ir-Religjon Kattolika u mbaghad irid jghallem l-isqfijiet taghna x'ghandom jghidu???
Silvio Zammit
Nov 5th 2010, 14:08
Prosit J.Tonna....ghidilhom kemm hu hazin ikollok naqra knowledge hux, kemm hu isbah u iktar intelligenti timxi wara min jaf imexxi....Mela ma jafux li l-isqfijiet taghna tghallmu hafna fuq il komplessita tal-hajja sesswali mis seminarju, u ahna ma tantx nafu fuq ir-religjon taghna. Jekk ma jitkellmux huma fuq l-abbuz sesswali min tridu jitkellem?!
R.Camilleri
Nov 5th 2010, 14:34
Prosit sur.Tonna ilqat il-musmar fuq rasu. Dan kif illum issib hafna jridu jithadtu fuq religjon u x'suppost tghallem il-knisja u x'naf jien. Jien taf x'taghlimt li l- hobz ghandek ittih li min jaf jieklu. Ma' jridhux dawn it-taghlin jghalmu lil isqof/ isqfijiet x'ghandhom jghidu u jghallmu hux. Mela kif qed jghidu dawn, iz-zmien li hadu fl-istudji taghhom ma' jiswa ghalxejn. Jien taf x'nahseb li hafna minn dawn tilfu t-triq tal-verita - Lill Alla s-Sid tas-Sema u l-Art u li jghtina kull tahbita tal-qalb. Kunu sinciera maghkom infuskom.
J.Tonna
Nov 5th 2010, 14:42
Mr Zammit - Qed thallat il-hass mal-basal, is-suggett tal-lum hu differenti milli qed issemmi inti.
Patrick Harvey
Nov 5th 2010, 15:01
While I respect the ideas being expressed in these blogs, may I point out that the Bishop is not the only one who studied here. In these blogs there are comments made by people who are professionals, people who work with children on a daily basis, people who deal with social problems on a daily basis as part of their jobs, people who are talking from their daily experiences of their profession.
I believe that one has to make a distinction between religious values and the common good of the country. Let's face the facts: not everyone in Malta is a fervent catholic and thus a good part of the population will disregard the Bishop's argument. I am in favour that the church teaches moral values to society about sex and contraception, but then let the individuals choose their faith.
Let's be honest with ourselves... facts show that teenage pregnancy is on the rise and it is in the COMMON GOOD of the country that young persons are educated about their bodies! Hopefully in the long run we taxpayers will have less single mothers to maintain through social benefits!!!
Silvio Zammit
Nov 5th 2010, 15:10
U zgur....qatt mhu il mument it-tajjeb li nitkellmu fuq hekk hux. Ma jogobniex dak id-diskors!
Charlene Giordimaina
Nov 7th 2010, 12:46
Proset J.Tonna! Naqbel mieghek perfettament. Kemm sirna nisimghu bihom dawn.. nies li qatt ma qabdu bibbja f'idhom u minghalihom li jafu aktar mill-qassisin li jghamlu hajjithom kollha jistudjaw suggetti socjo-religjuzi.
Monica Gale
Nov 5th 2010, 13:14
And then they wonder why so many teenage pregnancy.
One thing the church forgets is that sex is totally natural and an activity that ALL young people (I defer from placing a specific age) want to TRY - and most do.
It is simple hypocrisy at best and plain ignorance at worst to foolishly think that 'sex' is something that can only be engaged in within the bounds of 'marriage'.
A natural activity confined by a man-made ideology? Right.
Teach them well, teach them young. And we will have young adults who know their bodies, know their minds, and the limits of each.
R.Camilleri
Nov 5th 2010, 15:52
Of course Ms. Monica that sexuality is natural, but don't forget we are supposed to have minds and morals which the animals do not have . We should not act like animals, although some are taking more care of the animals than the human being. We are dressing up the animals and unveil ourselves. We need to scrutinize our conscience in order to speak sincerely and well.
victor pulis
Nov 5th 2010, 13:03
The church has every right to preach its values to society, then it is up to individuals to choose their values.
I agree, but in this instant the bishop was not teaching the church's values but accusing the education system of child abuse. Hence the reaction. We all know that the catholic church is against contraception use and it has a right to her opinion. but when accusations of child abuse are made the accused have a right to respond. Cotraception use is taught as part of SEXUAL (not SEX) education. The children are not taught to be promiscuos, that would be madness, They are taught personal hygene, healthy relationships, altruism, respect for others...but of all these topics the bishop chose to single out just comdom use! As has been said, the parents should be the first teachers in these matters but can you blame them for finding it embarrasing to talk to their children about sex after long decades of hearing the church preaching about the evils of sex? Now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Patrick Harvey
Nov 5th 2010, 12:37
It is the state's responsibility to educate young people about sex and sexuality... facts and figures of teenage pregnancies demand this need!!!
On the other hand, it is the parents' responsibilities to educate their children about VALUES... young adults (or better children) are choose whether to have sexual relationships or not depending on the VALUES transmitted to them within their family.
The church has every right to preach its values to society, then it is up to individuals to choose their values. However sex education is desperately needed in this country!
victor pulis
Nov 5th 2010, 12:26
No one is trying to shut the church's mouth. But when the bishop accuses the education system of child abuse the persons concerned have a right to defend themselves against the accusation.Do you expect the teachers to stay silent because it was the bishop who spoke? The days when people were hauled in front of the inquisition or locked up in an assylum for the insane because they stood up to the church are over. That is why the bidhop's statement will not change anything and those who use contraceptives will continue to use them. Time waits for no one not even a bishop.
David Caruana
Nov 5th 2010, 14:00
AMEN!
victor pulis
Nov 5th 2010, 12:19
L isqof ahjar jinzel minn fuq it tron fl-arja u jhares madwaru u jara li d-dinja nbidlet u hadd, l-ebda isqof u l-ebda papa mhu se jwaqqaf il mixja taz- zmien. Kemm hawn min jaf li parti mill bini tal vatikan kien sussidjat mill income tal prostituti li kien hemm madwaru? Dik il kultura tal pjacir. Tista' l-att sesswali tifirdu mill pjacir? Il knisja lanqas lill mizzewwgin ma tridhom juzaw kontracettivi.Irrid centezmu minghand kull kattoliku li juza/tuza l-kontracettivi u nsir sinjur f'sekonda! Is sesswalita hi parti mportanti fl-izvilupp tal bniedem u fl-iskejjel tigi mghallma sesswalita mhux sess ghax hemm differenza.
@ J Farrugia Int qatt attendejt ghall lezzjoni tal PSD? Jekk le mela aghlaqlu ghax qed tghid il hmerijiet. Dawn teachers iddedikati li jghinu hafna tfal jifthu qalbhom ma xi hadd li jafdaw altru milli lpup kif sejjahtilhom int bil karita kristjana kattolika infallibbli kollha tieghek.Hadtha kontra t-teachers, kontra l- genituri...min jonqos issa?
M.Farrugia
Nov 5th 2010, 12:00
Monsinjur Mario Grech jiena naqbel mieghek mija fil-mija. Min ghandhu agenda urterjuri jew mohbija jipprova ipingi kull ma tghid il-knisja bhala xi haga hazina. Kompli ishaq kif dejjem taghmel fejn jidhlu kwistjonijiet ta natura socjali. Min ghazlek Isqof f'dan il-mument ta prova veru kien jaf x'qed jaghmel.
P. Borg
Nov 5th 2010, 11:01
Nahseb ahjar nibdew naghllmu lil hafna tfajliet u guvintur li il-kontraccettivi huma importantissimi. Ghall-inqas la ma nistghux inwaqqfuhom milli jkollhom relazzjonijiet sesswali u one night stands, inkunu qed inwaqqfu milli tfal ikollhom it-tfal. Kif tista trabbi lil haddiehor jekk l-anqas int stess ma tkun ghadek immaturajt bizzejjed??
Il-knisja trid tindahal f'kollox f'dan il-pajjiz u ghad tispicca li hadd ma jati kazha iktar hlief xi erba brain washed. Kristu ma obbliga lil hadd isegwih u halla lin-nies liberi li jaghzlu huma x'jaghmlu. Ahjar juzaw il-kontraccettivi u ma jinqabdux tqal milli jkunu tqal u jispiccaw jew jaghmlu abort jew inkella irabbu tfal biex jahqruhom jew mejtin bil-guh. Mhux qed nghid li kulhadd hekk imma smajna b'hafna stejjer ta nies li kellhom tfal bi zball u ghamlulhom hajjithom mizerja. Ghalli jista jkun dan qed jissuggerixxi li il-prostituti mghandhomx juzaw kontracettivi l-anqas???? Iridu sew dan il-pajjiz.
Meta il-knisja tibda thallas nofs il-beneficcji socjali ta dawn in-nies forsi nasal biex naqbel mieghu imma kulhadd jaf li il-knisja paroli biss ghandha basta ta tmissilix buta. Halluna nghixu u tindahlux fejn ma jasakomx. Minhabba il-knisja Malta dejjem ghamlet passi ta ggant, lura imma mhux il-quddiem.
Ernest Vella
Nov 5th 2010, 11:15
kemm inti bravu!!!! kif qeghdin hemm naghmlu hotels b'xejn halli s-sess jaghmluh f'post nadif ukoll, b'mod privat....forsi nitfghu xi muzika romantika wkoll...u ddahhakx...mela uliedna hsibthom prostituti!!! Biex nghalqu halq il-Knisja naslu biex nghidu kollox...il-Knisja ghanda dritt tghid dak li thoss u mhux ser tigi int jew hadd li jiddetta l-Knisja x'ghanda taghmel u x'tghid.
Dwar il-Knisja thallas il-beneficcji socjali...int ma tisthix habib ehhh...kemm il-Knisja u l-istituzzjonijiet taghha jaghmlu xoghol volontarju u bla hlas ma ssemmihx...nahseb bil-flus li tatiha int il-Knisja jew l-ghaqdiet taghha jaghtu servizz mill-koxxa, lil uliedna fl-ghaqdiet, u lil min hu inqas ixxurtjat minnha. Isma minni ghalaq halqek int, u halli l-kulhadd juza l-liberta ta l-espressjoni...hija kontradizzjoni li nemmnu fil-principji tal-liberta...sakemm dawn jaqblu maghna.
Issa tigi ssemmi..."int nisrani?" biex tipprova taghlaqli halqi jew twaqqa kliemi...ghamel int...imma issa xbajna naraw attakki kontra l-Knisja meta din isemma lehinha.
l.theuma
Nov 5th 2010, 11:42
Miexjin lejn socjeta' iktar annimaleska milli umana!
Anthony Roberts
Nov 5th 2010, 10:29
Contraception was taught in Roman Catholic Schools in Great Britain well back in the 70's if not before. It never did us any harm, but taught us to have respect for ourselves and our religion. It did not encourage us to do anything we shouldn't but it made us aware of the consequences of our behaviour. Students need to have knowledge without it they cannot grow into well balanced informed adults.
It seems that our Church in Malta is threatened by anything that comes from real life, She doesn't seem to have any faith in us, while we all have faith in Jesus Christ who is there for all of us without discrimination of any kind.
Marie Roberts
David Caruana
Nov 5th 2010, 10:00
@ Nazzareno Mallia:
"Mhux ahjar jaraw kemm il-tfajla taht l-eta' qed johorgu tqal minn zghazagh anke huma taht l-eta"'...... jekk ma taghllimhomx fuq il-kontracezzjoni, tahseb li ha tnaqqas in-numru ta' dawn it-tfajliet.
Inti ssostni li dawn tal-ADZ "mhuma xejn u ma jiswewx karlin", li "ghadhom jitwieldu l-bierah" u ma jifhmu xejn hdejn l-Isqof?
Tahseb li ghandek il-wicc tghid l-istess ghall- World Health Organisation ?:
"Malta is burying its head in the sand on sexual health, according to a World Health Organisation adviser who is concerned about soaring teenage pregnancies and the lack of proper sex education.
John Richens, whose recent visit to Malta was not publicised even though he was invited by the health authorities, seemed baffled that he did not manage to see a copy of the National Sexual Health Policy."
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20091129/local/malta-burying-head-in-sand-on-sexual-health
"I requested it but it was withheld from me. There was a reluctance to share the document. I don't know what the reasons for this were," he told The Sunday Times, when contacted at his office in the UK.
Mark Dalli
Nov 5th 2010, 09:53
What about asking the bishop (and curia) to foot the bill for
young mothers & babies and youth disease medication
since he does not want to educate them?
...i am pretty sure they will change their tone and opinion afterwards!
L Bonnici
Nov 5th 2010, 09:49
I would rather say that Biology and PSD teachers would be abusing their students if they do not teach them about contraception. Many parents aren't comfortable discussing sexuality with their kids, and kids feel awful when this happens ... believe me! It happens to me, you and everyone! Teachers should be an objective source of information ......
Are still living in the Middle Ages, where what the Church says is always right ... Anyways this happens everywhere with the Catholic Church ... I've heard stories from the US where some priests were saying that using condoms will cause cancer .... I believe it's about time the Church changes its policy about sexuality.
J Farrugia
Nov 5th 2010, 09:58
Malta does not need any PSD teachers. Especially teachers with low rate of what is morality. This is all hogwash. This first education is the responsibility of the parents. Yes we have irresponsible parents who have abandoned this role and left it to the wolves. Unless their children are given all the care and education regards their sexual lives from their parents, all is lost. That's were sex education should start and continue with the growing up of their own children. In their own home, and by their own parents.
sciortino m
Nov 5th 2010, 10:48
@J Farrugia
I agree that parents should do more to educate their children. Given this situation, it is not the children's fault that they do what they do. They don't know any better.
What do you suggest that the state should do? Abandon these youngsters to disease or try and teach prevention so that at least they remain healthy?
Ms P.M Graham
Nov 5th 2010, 10:58
@Mr Farrugia:
You have hit the nail on the head. I have been saying this for years. It's NOT up to Priests or teachers to teach children sex ed. It should come as naturally as, potty training, eating with a knife a fork, manners, right and wrong.. It should start from a young age, with simple conversations regarding their bodies, hygeine and how their bodies can never be touched by anyone without their permission. To respect themselves, their uniqueness and encourage individuality.
Watching news shows together. Discussing as a family the World we live in, drugs, disease, famine.
Sex should not be a taboo subject. Your children should be able to talk to you about anything and receive an honest answer and if you don't, then yes, you are letting your children down.
Charlene Giordimaina
Nov 5th 2010, 09:47
All the Bishop did was say the Church's teachings. No politician or political party has any right to condemn the Church's word- unless we're living in communism of course.
David Caruana
Nov 5th 2010, 10:11
Every Politician, and actually every citizen, has not only the right but the duty to condemn anyone whose words can be of harm to our community.
What no politician or political party have the right to do is to CENSOR the Church's word, but we do not need to say that as CENSORSHIP is something which the State in collusion with the Church specialises in.
J Farrugia
Nov 5th 2010, 11:22
And that is what Malta needs right now. Absolute censorship against liberalism, perversity and vulgarity. Yes we do need discipline in our country.
David Caruana
Nov 5th 2010, 12:44
@ J Farrugia
Dream on!
Censorship will always fail... it failed under stricter regimes when people went to Sicily to be able to broadcast their message.
We will leave again if need be, and this time, internet and mobile telephony offer better platforms than radio did in those times.
Nazzareno Mallia
Nov 5th 2010, 09:43
Kemm spazju jinghata lil min mhu xejn u ma jiswiex karlin. Ara ghat-taghlim tal-isqof ebda spazju ma jinghata mill-media. Meta l-isqfijiet taghna jghidu xi haga fattwali fuq moralita' jinfethu l-bibien tal-attakki kontra l-Knisja u l-Isqfijiet taghha. U dawn il-gallini min huma biex imieru lil min jaf iktar minnhom, ghadhom jitwieldu l-bierah? Mhux ahjar jaraw kemm il-tfajla taht l-eta' qed johorgu tqal minn zghazagh anke huma taht l-eta'; u anki iktar, qed jaghmlu fattihom u jhallu tfajliet bi trabi mhux ippjanati, u li huma stess wara jabbandunawhom ghal rihhom bit-tfajliet b'kollox? Dan irridu naraw u mhux nattakkaw lill-Isqof ghax qed jghid il-verita li ahna "l-imdawlin", "il-progressivi", "il-libertini" irridu nghattuha ghax twegghana sew fil-kuxjenza taghna. Ghax ta' dan kollu rridu naghtu kont lil Alla ghal eghmil hazin taghna.
P. Borg
Nov 5th 2010, 11:11
Hawn Joe Zammit iehor hawn!!!!!!!. Iehor brain washed siehbi.
Ahjar tghallimhom kif jipprotegu lilhom infushom milli thallihom ihawdu bex jispiccaw min tqil, min bl-AIDS u min jaf xiex. La ma nistax intih sikkina biex jiddefendi ruhu ghall-inqas nghidlu biex ma jersaqx lejn min jista jweggghu.
Mhawn hadd li jista jwaqqaf lil persuna ohra milli jkollha relazzjoni sesswali allura might as well nghallmuhom kif ma jkollhomx tfal. It-tfal qeghdin ghal min irid jibni familja mhux ghal xi hadd li ghadu mohh ir-rih. Dik hi il-maturita. Fil-passat kellna ezempji li min ma uzax kontraccettivi kellu tqala li ma kinitx mixtieqa u spicca halla tarbija go kaxxa taz-zraben, ramiha go xi skip bhal ma rajna l-italja jew qatilha b'xi daqqa ta sikkina. Ghandek bzonn ta aktar ezempji ghal xiex il-kontraccettivi huma importanti???? Hallik mill-isqof. Dak ghazel li jibqa single ghal ghomru halli ma jkollux problemi ta familja, fejn jaf x'jaghddu minnu in-nies biex irabbu it-tfal. Ikber siehbi. Il-knisja biex tpacpac tajba biss, il-bqija il-problemi ghal go wiccna
Ramon Casha
Nov 5th 2010, 11:43
"U dawn il-gallini min huma biex imieru lil min jaf iktar minnhom..."
U min jifhem l-iżjed dwar saħħa u kontraċezzjoni. tabib jew isqof?
PS: Jekk hemm tant tfajliet qed joħorġu tqal kmieni, l-abbuż huwa li tgħidilhom ma jużawx kontraċettivi.
martin saliba
Nov 5th 2010, 19:09
@ P. Borg. Kont insejtu u int fakartni fih. Tergax jekk jogbok.
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