University students survey shows majority for divorce
54.4 per cent of University students agree with the introduction of divorce, according to a survey by the left-wing student organisation MOVE.
It said the survey was conducted by Vincent Marmarà, an expert on statistics, and involved 605 students.
The survey report is due to be published tomorrow during a public debate on divorce.
Asked whether they agreed that divorce should be introduced 54.4% said yes, 32.4% against and 13.2 said they were undecided.
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Nicky Azzopardi
Oct 12th 2010, 20:13
So from the thousands attending university, 600 ppl were interviewed and the headline reads UNIVERSITY STUDENT SURVEY SHOWS... Utterly stupid. And Steve Borg, dont state the absurd. You're not the modern monument of openminded people, trust me.
B. Cachia
Oct 14th 2010, 09:55
A sample of 600 is actually pretty strong, independently of the size of the population being studied. In fact the strength of a sample does not depend at all on whether it's a high or low percentage of the population being analysed. To give you an example, with a sample of 600 you could do a decent opinion poll on general elections in any country, whatever the size.
B. Pollacco
Oct 12th 2010, 19:58
Please correct me if i am wrong..But as far as i know we(ie student) have all the right in world to give OUR opinions on certain topics. If i'm not mistaken malta is democratic country after all !
Steve Borg
Oct 12th 2010, 18:54
Just 54 per cent?
If students nowadays are so conservative, and ill-informed about the most basic human rights we really have no hope. Shame on the 33 per cent who are against divorce.
Ryan Falzon
Oct 12th 2010, 21:31
divorce is not a human right! the right to family life is a human right. and divorce has nothing to do with this no matter what arguments you bring up. and secondly hate to point it out but yes, in a democracy everyone is entitled to his opinion so shame on you not on the students because you are conservative in not accepting the fact that others have opinions based on arguments that are more valid than yours. thirdly the university has thousands of students and not just 605
Paul Barrett
Oct 12th 2010, 18:29
The debate should be about closure after a legal separation, closure to allow those that have been so unfortunate to have a totally failed marriage, having another chance to re-marry should they be lucky enough to find another partner and wish to legally marry that partner under civil law.
There can be no argument that marriage is good for society. Currently we have an ever increasing number of people that are being excluded from being allowed to get married because one or both of them have separated from a previous relationship. Co-habitation is not good for the individuals and is even worse for any children produced in this situation.
If religion is to be brought into the debate then it should be pointed out that no-one is forcing the Catholic Church or any of the believers to apply for or acknowledge divorce. However to impose Catholic Church laws, (especially by threats of "sinning" and retribution on anyone that supports divorce) irrespective of a persons religion or beliefs and thus prevent individuals the freedom of choice is not acceptable
oscar cassar
Oct 12th 2010, 18:23
At what time is the public debate ????
Mariette Borg
Oct 12th 2010, 18:36
The Debate is going to be held tomorrow at noon, quadrangle. For more info Visit: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=155319341175469
Thanks
Mark Cassar
Oct 12th 2010, 19:19
Debate is tomorrow at noon, at University Quadrangle.
Joseph Calleja
Oct 12th 2010, 17:07
Go easy on these students. These are the leaders of tomorrow, the leaders of our grandchildren. They have to start someplace. I would like to put an interesting question to them? When Malta joined the EU, Malta also agreed to accept divorce since all the other EU States allow divorce and Malta is bound by the same EU rules.
Question? Why does a Maltese citizen, who is now an EU citizen have to go outside of Malta to obtain a divorce? If Malta is part of the EU how come divorce is not allowed here locally? Are we not all EU citizens and equal to the other EU States? If one goes to any other EU State and obtains a divorce, then Malta will accept that divorce. Same question arises, why do I have to go outside of my EU State to obtain a divorce which should be available to me right here in Malta? That is the question? Let the debate begin.
MBorg
Oct 12th 2010, 16:49
What's the news ? What do you expect from our university students ? These are the same students who ara against censorship, who say that for them anything goes in the name of art,.
The same bunch who spent a good part of their last term campaigning for a condom vending machine to be installed on campus, making us think that all they have on their minds when at university is sex.
They must say that they are in favour of the introduction of divorce. It would not do , if haven forbids ,some of us were to think that our university students were not modern., It is beyond them to use good judgement before jumping into things.
S. Calleja
Oct 12th 2010, 16:57
It's not about divorce, sex, censorship or condoms at all. It's about freedom of making your own choices, rather than having somebody else doing them for you. I thought that so far it was clear, but apparently it's not.
Mark Borg
Oct 12th 2010, 17:13
It's something called liberal thinking, you should try it some time.
We are 1 of a very few countries in the entire world who don't have Divorce in our system, one thing to point out however is that Annulment is allowed... Are we hypocrites or what?
E Borg
Oct 12th 2010, 17:43
Yes, "haven forbid" that two adults that are in a failed marriage, should have the right to end their marriage and start over....
Or for adults to have the right to judge for themselves what they would like to read or see...
No, quite the opposite. We need to have failed marriages that cannot be dissolved, because we are living in a catholic country. We need to make sure that these people, their children included, have no second chance at having in a legally recognised family (in the sense of marriage), where they can be with a loving partner (or step parent).
And of course we need to censor anything that's written in a language thats considered "unclean", because it goes against morals to have such things written down - even though you can probably hear this kind of language every day unless you have your head buried in the sand.
In fact why not burn all the pieces of literature that have ever been censored ... ex. Galileo, Voltaire, Gide, Pascal, Descartes, Kant, Rousseau and many more... after all these authors have made no contribution whatsoever to knowledge, art or science ...
Mariette Borg
Oct 12th 2010, 18:45
For your information, we are not a bunch who spent the last part of out last term debating on a condom machine. The debate on a condom machine was held in the first term! during the scholastic year we focused on several issues such as, LGBT rights and also we invited Mr Afif Safieh to address students on the issue of Palestina.
John C Betts
Oct 12th 2010, 18:50
To answer your question (in spite of its rhetorical intent), as a lecturer at the University of Malta what I would expect is for our students to work hard over the course of their degrees, and although this might be a surprise to (judging by certain comments), most of them do. I also expect them to stand up for their beliefs and opinions; and I would also expect people to respect their opinions when they do so, and not criticise them with mediocre generalizations.
Adriano Spiteri
Oct 12th 2010, 16:47
What a pity. Just 54.4% of UNIVERSITY STUDENTS agree!
This people is so mediocre.
Educated fools!
Mark Borg
Oct 12th 2010, 17:04
I agree! At least 54.4% are able to make a decision for themselves.
Charles Sammut
Oct 12th 2010, 17:42
Mr Spiteri, the word is not "educated", it is "instructed".
Charles Sammut NY USA
Oct 12th 2010, 16:46
The survey shows that College Education does not make everyone smarter. The numbers against Divorce is way too high. Seminary numbers if you ask me.
JOSEPH ZAMMIT
Oct 12th 2010, 17:21
Exactly!
S. Calleja
Oct 12th 2010, 17:30
That's because our education system is exam-driven rather than life-driven. Too much focus on academia during the early years, when this should be focused upon during the later years (college and university). The result is people who can recite long texts from memory but who are not able to think for themselves, afraid to speak up to defend their rights, or to speak in public.
Nicky Azzopardi
Oct 12th 2010, 22:10
You fools think you opinion is above everyone else's. And taking a wild guess here, you propbably never made it to university, but your opinion should be everyone else's. X'cuc hu Saddam Hussein.
patrick zammit
Oct 12th 2010, 16:21
Sinners!
M. Calleja
Oct 12th 2010, 16:44
@ Patrick Zammit
If, in a hundred years' time, we had to write a book on how Malta and the Maltese handled the issue of divorce in 2010, we could entitle the book "Of Saints and Sinners" ...
Ramon Casha
Oct 13th 2010, 17:15
Yeah, they probably believe the earth orbits around the sun too.
M. Bonello
Oct 12th 2010, 15:34
They are just dimwits. They dont have anything in their minds just money, money and fun. No responsibilities, no serious thinking, no nothing. Just let's make the day and to hell with tomorrow. No wonder the next generation will be a difficult one full of problems because we are fast becoming materialistic in everything we do. God doesn;t exist any more.
R. Grech
Oct 12th 2010, 16:20
Dimwits? for accepting that people sometimes simply can't live with each other any more and therefore allowing them to start a new life? Divorce isn't something taken lightly by anyone, its usually a last resort... and if someone is gonna take divorce lightly, then he was not responsible enough to marry in the first place, thus making divorce a good thing anyway since i don't think you or anyone wants irresponsible people to have families and children that they can mistreat and abuse.
J.Galea
Oct 12th 2010, 16:27
I fully agree with you M. Bonello.
John C Betts
Oct 12th 2010, 18:42
I beg to differ. I am a lecturer at the University of Malta, and the students I encounter are certainly not stupid or irresponsible as you imply. I would like to see how irresponsible dimwits would handle the units our students have to pass.
I take strong offense to these statements, and invite anyone making them to evaluate our courses and then stand in person before our students and staff to make and defend such assertions instead of typing unfounded and irresponsible, if I may borrow your term, responses.
Kevin B
Oct 12th 2010, 18:58
@M. Bonnello, nice way of putting it I must say, however by definition dimwits are people who need other people to make a decision for them, hence the term dim witted.
By the looks of things, you and anyone else who has taken offence due to this article should be considered a dimwit.
University Students (along with several others who form part of the 'future generation') are simply stating that they would like the chance to make decisions for themselves, as oppose to letting a 2000 year old flawed system decide for them. (to which I fully agree)
S. Calleja
Oct 12th 2010, 15:24
So there is still some ray of hope for democratic values in this country. Now, we just have to seriously and objectively analyse why 32.4% would be against, and educate them appropriately.
S. Zammit
Oct 12th 2010, 16:19
It's their choice, after hopefully they thought it over. Trying to make them think otherwise would just be brainwashing...
S. Calleja
Oct 12th 2010, 16:32
Brainwashing is exactly what we want them to avoid. We also have to try to impart to them the democratic value of respecting the needs of the minorities. And that democracy is not about the will of the majority on every aspect of our lives (otherwise we have to make a referendum on every law that is passed, unpopular or not, and we will have no taxes). Democracy is about electing representatives who can take decisions for the citizens, including minorities, even if they prove to be unpopular.
Manuel Mangani
Oct 12th 2010, 21:36
Presumably "education" means leading people to agree with your views!
Daniel Vella
Oct 12th 2010, 15:20
I do believe that today's generations (me included) are growing up to be more liberal-thinkers than our parents. This survey is one clear example.
JOSEPH ZAMMIT
Oct 12th 2010, 15:13
This is a negative outcome, I am afraid to admit. Coming from University students makes it all the more worrying as how much the young generation is STILL religiously conservative and/or uninformed.