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Instances where divorce is not a moral offence (3)

I am 100 per cent against divorce but I agree with a referendum on one condition: That only the children who suffered from a broken family can vote on this issue and nobody else. Most of us have a thirst for respect and honesty.

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Ms P M Graham

Sep 3rd 2010, 18:31

What an excellent post Mr Calleja. I would also add that in many cases Divorce is a blessing to many children.

C Cini

Sep 4th 2010, 00:32

As I said before divorce effects everyone. Even Catholics and priests are negatively effected by divorce. It is called people get polluted by the mentality of society. Priests cannot teach moral issues since everything will become nonsense. We are talking like on moral issues because we have the Church (thank God), otherwise we follow what normally irresponsabile politians make us to believe, in the name of freedom. Mr Calleja and all those, who in favour of divorce should know how will effect society. Not how will effect your private life, although those who think that divorce will help to have a happy marriage life, I have my doubts. I have personally seen this in other countries. Also I have my doubts to say that divorce is a real blessing for children. When those children grow up they think twice if they get married or not. The majority they choose to co abitate. What a blessing Ms Graham!

JOSEPH ZAMMIT

Sep 3rd 2010, 17:33

Your argument, though reflecting the truth of the matter, is discriminatory. I wonder what would have been your opinion were the religion of Malta been Islamic and you catholic? It is well to remind you that the people are above the constitution. The Maltese people have the power to remove Article 2 from our Constitution. It is high time that we realize this. Arrogance from the church is due only to article 2 of our constitution and also to the unawareness of the majority to this fact. Our Constitution belongs to the people and not to the Catholic church. The POWER IS WITH THE PEOPLE AND WE CAN REMOVE ARTICLE 2. I call to the Maltese to GET OFF YOUR KNEES AND start walking upright as real humans!

Joseph Calleja

Sep 3rd 2010, 19:12

@ JOSEPH ZAMMIT with caps.....hehehe Maybe Article 2 should be put up for a referendum with the divorce issue. Article 2 is confusing State with Church. The problem is the church is in control because of that article 2 you mentioned. And which of the MPs has the gall or otherwise to put such a thing on a ballot? On the other hand those of them who favour divorce are already condemned to hell anyway. I don't care which party emerges triumphant, Malta needs a big change, it is way overdue.

M Vella

Sep 3rd 2010, 19:28

Joe you said...A simple argument: The Constitution is above all national laws ,do you know that If a domestic law is inconsistent with EU law,EU law prevails.

Joseph Micallef

Sep 3rd 2010, 15:44

This reminds me of when Brigitte Neilson - former wife of Sylvester Stallone (divorced) was allowed to get re-marriad at a chapel in St. Julians! Maybe film-stars have some special privilages before God! Boq!

CJohn Zammit

Sep 3rd 2010, 16:31

Civil Annulument is available right now, under Artilcle 19 and/or Article 19A of the Marriage Act.

Divorce legislation is not likely to happen any time soon. While the debate rages, which could go on until the next century, why not take advantage of current legislation? See a good lawyer :)



JOSEPH ZAMMIT

Sep 3rd 2010, 16:04

@William P Flynn--THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE, I TOTALLY AGREE WILLIAM.
Unfortunately in Malta, as the Church pretends to be our shepherd, we, for our part, are surely living the Baaa--Baaa sheep mentality.

CJohn Zammit

Sep 3rd 2010, 16:46

Section 2 of the constitution is comprised of three sub-sections:

Sub-Section 1 -- establishes the State Religion (Roman Catholic).
It can be repealed by a ►simple majority◄ of the House.

Sub-Section 2 -- authorizes the RCC to teach what is right and what is wrong.
It can be repealed by a ►two-thirds◄ majority.

Sub-Section 3 -- makes RC doctrine a compulsory subject in all State schools.
It can be repealed by a ►simple majority◄ just like Sub-Section 1.

If the current crop of legislators were to repeal Sub-Sections 1 and 3 ... it would make the Bishops look like Samson without his hair. ☺

patrick zammit

Sep 3rd 2010, 13:16

"voting for divorce is grievously sinful"

Is it also a sin to:
1) to put Galileo under house arrest for life for his support of Copernicus' heliocentrism theory?
2) to steal a dying person's property in exchange for prayers for his soul’s salvation?
3) to burn people at the stake for not agreeing with the church's views?
4) to bury people at the mizbla and imposed the dnub il-mejjet on MLP followers?
5) to protect paedophile priests by transferring them to other unsuspecting localities (not Mexico) where they can continue to abuse more children at their new parish?
6) to castrate choir boys so that their voice would not break because according to 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 women should remain silent in church?
7) to threatened people durinf confession with not giving them absolution of their sins if they use coitus interruptus and have less than 1 child every 11 months or so, contributing to social problems like making Malta almost the most populated country in the world?
8) to support the Spanish royalty in enslaving/torturing/killing of whole civilisations (Incas/Aztecs/Mayas) running into millions of natives in their search of earthly pleasures and riches?

JOSEPH ZAMMIT

Sep 3rd 2010, 15:56

Mr JZ---But I do not give a dime what the Church says!!!! Why not quote the Quran; Upanishads; Zend Avesta; Talmud; Mormon Bible; Buddhist scriptures, etc???

Many Maltese ARE NON CATHOLICS---read that again--NON CATHOLICS and you cannot discriminate against them!!!

Divorce is a civil issue. Jesus was referring to the Jews of his time with reference to the Mosaic laws. The Catholic Church laws were established about 350 years after.
We must leave the religious aspect of divorce out of it.
And if you want a a true meaning of a grave sin=article 2.2 of our Constitution--REMOVE IT AT ONCE AS THIS IS WHAT IS GIVING POWER TO THE CHURCH.

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