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Minister reacts to complaints on hospital overcrowding

The shortage of hospital beds was the result of three factors - health centres which were not well-equipped to provide all services available at Mater Dei, a shortage of nurses and a lack of homes equipped to deal with long term care, Health Minister Joseph Cassar said this morning.

Speaking during the launch of a new system digital X Ray system at the Mosta Health Centre, Dr Cassar said this was another step in the government’s project to boost the primary health care system.

Through this system, any X Ray taken would be immediately sent to Mater Dei where it would be seen by a bone specialist and a diagnosis is given, reducing a patient’s need to travel as well as waiting times. It would also reduce pressure on the hospital.

Eventually, this system would also be available at Floriana and Paola.

Dr Cassar said that the backlog problem in the system was also due to a shortage of nurses, which was a worldwide problem.

The government had issued an open call for applications for nurses for which people from anywhere in the world could apply.

People, the minister said, were living longer and becoming more dependent on health services as they grew older so nurses who would focus solely on long term care were needed.

He noted that the Nurses Council, which was an autonomous body, was processing 40 applications from Pakistani nurses to see if these would eventually be registered in Malta.

The council also processes applications from newly graduated nurses before they can start working.

This would enable them to work anywhere in the EU. The process took time and was solely the responsibility of the council.

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Franco Xuereb

Aug 19th 2010, 21:04

My friend you are tackling the subject in question from a different point of view, as at no point you are satisfying my curiosity, as I'm not curios at all.

I'm not interested as to when you had retired nor the kind of job you had, but the bottom of the argument remains the bed capacity of SLH, thus I regret to say that your thoughts that of 750 bed capacity of SLH is incorrect as it is well over the thousand bed capacity.

Franco Xuereb

Aug 19th 2010, 16:20

With reference to your comments, as a reply to what I had wrote.
Please, when you quote me do not take a figure or a word but quote the sentence; as a matter of fact I did us the word approximately 1,300 beds.

Thus as stated by your good self that you had worked there for 16 years, I had noticed that you highlighted the fact that St. Luke's did not have the capacity of 1,300 beds, but at no point did you informed the readers of the exact bed capacity............and yet after working in the said hospital for 16 years, or perhaps you do not know the bed capacity your self?

Once again I rest my case.

lgalea

Aug 19th 2010, 13:18

Steve Cassar the people are not complaining against the doctors and nurses but against the incompetence and lack of planning by the incompetent PN administrations. The various PN administrations had been warned what was going to happen but their arrogance does not allow them to listen to reason Furthermore, who in his proper senses would build a hospital with about half the bed capacity of St Lukes when the population had greatly increased? Why is the government letting St Lukes go to ruins instead of refurbishing it to host certain cases including as an old peoples home when it is known that Mater Dejn is not enough and there is a great lack of old peoples homes? Is it for people to go to private hospitals and private old peoples homes after having paid taxes all their life? Why has the government not employed nurses when there are those who have graduated as others have said? This is the disaster brought about by a series of incompetent PN administrations and you expect people not to complaint? People have a right to complain when they are not being treated as they should and when they see their taxes squandered.

Joe Busuttil

Aug 19th 2010, 13:36

So you are ready ready to wait for hours to get seen to and also not complain if you are left somewhere on a stretcher instead of in a bed.? If he problem of nurses shortage is low pay then it's the government's job to see to it. The problem is as others have pointed out : bad management. Mr Minister ,the buck has to stop somewhere and it certainly does not stop at the nurses' or doctors' door.

C.Sammut

Aug 19th 2010, 13:47

Its actually thanks to the nurses and doctors that this section is holding up.. but its not right to make them work in such conditions.. nor to deny compromised patients the proper care required and furthermore expose them to other risks.

Steve Cassar

Aug 19th 2010, 15:38

@ lgalea if you think that labour government will make the hospital better you're completly wrong! The situation will remain the same even with nurses!
Its true the health centers are not adequate for simple medication. Former minister dalli mentioned this problem 2 years ago, yet nothing has been done so far! Just an X-Ray at mosta! I'd suggest the minister to visit personally the health centers without announcments & he will see the a different reality!

@Joe Busuttil - what do you expect? blood tests take as a minimum 2hrs to be done & there are others patients before in the queue! Do you think that private hospitals take less?

@C.Sammut i agree! And from here i thank them for their service! still there are persons who visit the emergency area for simple treatment thus increasing the load on the staff & people who need medical attention!

Deo Catania

Aug 19th 2010, 16:11

@ Steve Cassar. Ok, point taken, I just hope that the minister and even the prime minister read your comment because it's quite clear it is addressed to them. Kompli sejjer hekk.

lgalea

Aug 19th 2010, 22:15

Steve Cassar If you think that PL will allow the situation to remain as it is you are completely wrong. Why is the government allowing qualifies nurses to remain unemployed and yet seek to import Pakistani nurses?

Today when questioned about the Mater Dejn problems Dr Cassar had the temerity to say that the government is doing enough and that nurses needed patients to practice on as if there are not enough patients at Mater Dejn. Can Dr Cassar tell us whether nurses had practiced during their practical sessions at the hospital? Or do they have to wait until they are qualified???? before they start practicing? With this sheer arrogance and ostrich head hiding in front of the vast problems in the health sector how can anyone expect to move forward?

g. scerri

Aug 19th 2010, 12:19

I believe that Dr. Cassar is trying hard within the limits imposed on him. But that still does not explain everything. While most people concentrate on Mater Dei for that is our general hospital, I would like Dr. Cassar to give an acceptable reason for the filthy and terrible state of Boffa hospital. We all know that most people there will not walk away happily and healthily and therefore all the more reason to give them some dignity in their last days. The last time I looked (last week), there were ants crawling up behind bedrests and the public toilet was filthy with flushings that did not work. Considering that Boffa does not see huge numbers of visitors, and the staff do not look overworked, who is responsible for the terrible neglect?

I.Cilia

Aug 19th 2010, 13:04

yeah sure... salary..

but did you pay for your education? definitely not... anzi you got paid to study..

Maltese salaries are what they are... i am also a graduate and complain about salaries but I do appreciate that i got educated for free and got paid to do it... and i do not jump ship at the first opportunity like many healtchare professionals are doing...

and this is also one of the problems... but no one seems to accept it..

T Camilleri

Aug 19th 2010, 13:27

g. scerri the government plan is to do away with Boffa hospital and then give it to a friend who has already been name to build a hotel in that prime site. This is the rampant "perceived" corruption with all PN Governments.

Nick Falzon

Aug 19th 2010, 12:29

Have you noticed that when things go well, it's "all thanks to the Maltese worker, Maltese industry, Maltese skills". When things screw up, it's "the international situation". Funny that.

lgalea

Aug 19th 2010, 13:30

John Smith that is known as scratching the back of friends or friends of friends. Why is St Lukes being allowed to go to ruins when it could easily have been refurbished as an old peoples home and for long-term hospital patients? Because then friends and friends of friends backs cannot be scratched for them to scratch the PN's back at collection times with tens of thousands of euros being produced from different pockets.

A Cassar

Aug 19th 2010, 15:12

Dear Mr Smith,
I can assure you that the directors in the Health Department are more than competent in solving ALL of our health care problems. They DO give the appropriate advice to the politicians. They KNOW how to solve the problems.

The only problems is that politicians think of their political future and do NOT heed the advice given. They know where the problem is. They know that they can spend far less money and get better results. They know how to solve the problems, but politicians put in the red tape, they manage all the money.

Ray Buhagiar

Aug 19th 2010, 12:03

'Maybe the governement needs to speak to the private sdector to learn how to manage anything efficiently'. Are you aware that St.PhilipsHospital closed its doors? Do you know how much it costs to do a simple x-ray in a local private hospital? Compare that and other services to UK and see whether local prices are inflated or not. Are you prepared to pay for some services given at Mater Dei Hospital? Of course not, you prefer 'free' service. If there is mismanagement than management should be given to an independent foreign company to upgrade standards. I suggest they start by increasing their salary that is comparable to their level of education. Do you know that some of the health professionals who are taking care of you have a master's degree from UK universities. Yet they are being paid peanuts.

I have friends working at Mater Dei who are reading for a doctorate yet their salary will remain the same as soon as they graduate.

J Farrugia

Aug 19th 2010, 11:53

jekk mhux hmar felu. xorta rridu nitfghu il-htija fuq il-Gvern. L-inqas jekk nafu xhinuma l-problemi. Nixtieq nara lil dawn kollha li jikkummentaw fin-negattiv x'kienu jaghmlu huma meta certu servizzi kienu INEZISTENTI. B'tobba barranin li l-inqas jifmhu kelma bl-ingliz. ALmenu l-Gvern jammetti li hemm il-problemi u li dawn il-problemi jridu z-zmien biex jissolvew. U kultant l-inqas jiddependi minnhu imma minn awtoritajiet indipendenti apposta. U hemm bzonn nghidu lill-pubbliku biex ma jkabbarx il-prblemi tal-isptar billi jkun TRASKURAT, NEGLIGENTI, u BLA MOHH, meta jsehhu certi ncidenti li setghu gew evitati bi ftit attenzjoni. Kull meta nisma l-ambulanzi ghaddejjin iwersqu s-sireni nghid povri tobba u nurses kemm ser ikollhom xoghol. U kemm ser jizdiedu l-pazjenti fil-kurituri tal-isptar. L-Isptar huwa dak li hu.

John Micallef

Aug 19th 2010, 12:34

Imma skuzi ta, ma nistax nifhem kif tasal titfa il problema ta haddiehor jekk mhux fuq il-gvern!!

Iva it-tort huwa tieghu, ghax biex jonfoq fl-affarijiet kozmetici issib flus, u fejn tidhol is-sahha kull ma sab huwa il-hin biex jemenda lgi biex tagevola kuntrattur ta gewwa, biex min ghandu jinxtara impjant li ha jmarrad aktar il- Malta taghna b'mard respratorji!!!

Nispera li la jitla il-labour mintiex xi wiehed li tibdel id-diska habib, ghax il- hain jghaml min jghamlu hazin jibqa.


TRASKURAT, NEGLIGENTI, u BLA MOHH huwa dak il- bniedem li jghamel progett bhal sptar, li qabel jiftah ikun diga zghir u jonfoq flus f-affarijeit li ma jituawx u jinsa afarijiet importanti.

By the way, int naqa konservattiv ta, biex tassal tikumpara ma 25 sena ilu, kieku jien nisthi.

lgalea

Aug 19th 2010, 13:38

Iva J Farrugia, it-tort huwa kollu tal-Gvern għaliex kien imwissi minn kulħadd dwar il-problemi li kien se jkun hemm u minflok irranġa ħalli l-problemi ma jinħolqux aktar ħoloqhom. Għalfejn dawk il-mostri ta kuriduri u spiċċajna bin-nofs tas-sodod li kien hemm San Luqa meta l-popolazzjoni kibret ħafna aktar minn meta sar l-isptar San Luqa? Dak issejjaħlu ppjanar serju sur Farrugia? Li ma taħsibx biex ikollok tobba u nurses biżżejjed meta tkun imiwssi dwar in-nuqqas li hemm tagħhom huwa ppjanar tajjeb sur Farrugia? Dak jissejjah nuqqas ta' ppjanar serju, arroganza u inkompetenza grassa minn min jaħseb li huwa xi Alla falz u li jaħseb u jgħid huwa tajjeb u dak kollu li jgħid ħaddieħor huwa ħażin kif kienu u għadhom il-Gvernijiet Nazzjonalisti sur Farrugia.

A. Zahra

Aug 19th 2010, 14:37

Nurses are not maids. They must have a high level of education and qualify in nursing. Most of our unemployed have a very low standard of education. They are too unqualified and unemployable.

andrew kelly

Aug 19th 2010, 11:31

no one has to worry.....as in 3 years time everything will be solved!

G Falzon

Aug 19th 2010, 11:36

The nursing job is not enticing as other jobs and could only be made so through higher salaries and better conditions. A nurse could not opt for telework and other family friendly measures, for example. The hours of work are very taxing. What are the benefits etc that would help one decide to join the nursing community? Has the raising of pension age been considered? We used to say nursing is a vocation......

M.Bezzina

Aug 19th 2010, 12:26

@Andrew Kelly
no one has to worry.....as in 3 years time everything will be solved!

Ha nghidlek habib jien minix nitkellem politikalment!!Ma nemminx li 3 snin ohra l affarijiet se jinbidlu mill lejl ghan nhar jien l ghada tal elezzjoni sew jekk jerga jitla Dr.Gonzi u sew jekk jitla Dr.Muscat hadd mhu se jgibli il paga id dar xorta wahda irrid immur ix xol.Pero birr rispett kollu lejn il PN dal gvern ilu jiggverna allura certu 'issues' zgur li se jigu indirrizzati lilu.La niftahru li ghadna 'state of the art hospital' u nassigurak li vera dan nippretendi li servizz ikun 'State of the art' ukoll. Billi nikkrittika ma jfissirx li jien kontra jew favur il PN pero li ddum tistenna l emergenza u wisq iktar 'overcrowding' go sptar bhall ma jamilx gid ghall hadd u bir ragun li hafna jgergru!!Imbaghad in nies li jkunu jistennew l emergenza man nurses imorru jgergru ma jgergrux mal awtoritajiet!!

Ray Buhagiar

Aug 19th 2010, 11:24

I suggest you google 'Shortage of Nurses in EU' and you will get your answer smack on your computer screen. Before commenting get informed.

Nurses and other healthcare professions are graduating with a university degree which is at par with that of other established professions yet they are not paid well. Hence some of them move abroad to get better salaries. It seems we are replacing these with nurses from philippines, Africa etc. Of course this will be a stepping stone to move to other European Countries.

This situation could only be improved if health professionals are given a salary at par with that of the EU. I would assume this also applies to the teaching profession.

patrick zammit

Aug 19th 2010, 13:36

R Buhagiar - re your last para.

That would be unfair to workers in other careers.

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