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Students behaving badly

Foreign students are gaining notoriety in parts of Malta for their rowdiness and unruliness. Photo: Darrin Zammit Lupi

Foreign students are gaining notoriety in parts of Malta for their rowdiness and unruliness. Photo: Darrin Zammit Lupi

A bar owner was cleaning his outlet at 3 a.m. when he heard a lot of commotion outside and found two English language students jumping on the roof of his Alfa Romeo.

“One boy slid down the back glass onto the luggage boot when he saw me and ran off, yelling something in Spanish,” Gaetano Walker told the Times. He had to fork out €500 worth of repairs after the incident.

This is just one of the cases reported to The Times of foreign students running riot while studying English away from home, apart from several recent letters to the editor complaining of students’ atrocious behaviour in the Sliema and Swieqi areas.

Another angry Sliema resident told of how he was being forced to sleep with the windows closed in the hot summer because of the rowdy students living in two nearby hotels, the Diplomat and the Windsor Terrace.

“The hotels have opposing balconies on one street and it’s not uncommon for English language students to have a screaming match at any time, day or night,” the resident said.

A few weeks ago, a folding mattress was flung outside a balcony into the street and the students were pelting each other with toilet paper and wooden planks, while some cars on the street were covered in shaving foam, he said.

The Sliema resident complained the students were impossible to contain as they had a student to team-leader ratio of 30 to 1.

Moreover, these team leaders were not much older than the students themselves, “so they find it very hard to control them”.

When contacted, a spokesman for the Windsor Terrace Hotel said the students involved in the mattress incident had been asked to leave the establishment.

English language students have also been making the headlines for the wrong reasons over the past few weeks.

Four Italians were charged with stealing items from a Buġibba guest house, two Spanish students turned violent and resisted arrest after being told by their teachers they would be sent home for unacceptable behaviour, and a 16-year-old Russian was charged with the attempted murder of two Maltese teenagers when he allegedly stabbed them during an argument.

Just last week, two Spanish students and four Italians were admonished in court and given a suspended sentence for skinny dipping on separate occasions in St George’s Bay, St Julians.

Even in hospitals, these international students are leaving their mark: According to doctors, Saturday nights are renowned for their intoxicated visits to the casualty department.

The Federation of English Language Teaching Organisations Malta (Feltom) insists that recent incidents have to be seen in the perspective of the tens of thousands of students who visit Malta every year.

Malta Hotels and Restaurants Association CEO George Schembri said: “Students are students. Youngsters in general just want to have fun.”

He said the MHRA had received no formal reports on the students as such but was working with the Malta Tourism Authority to find ways of reducing any impact on the tourism industry as a whole.

This year, for example, student leaders were properly trained, which empowered them to further direct the student.

A spokesman for the MTA said that in contrast to previous years, when the main complaints originated from tourists because of the young students staying in the same hotel, this year it had no such recorded complaints from tourists over the past months.

This year’s complaints were originating from locals due to the impact of the congregation of students on the residential community, resulting in disturbances.

“The main complaints have been about the noise emanating from the places of accommodation used by the schools, and concerning the disturbances caused by students loitering and ‘enjoying’ themselves in streets and public areas,” MTA said.

According to the MTA, the complaints originated mainly from Swieqi and Msida.

The authority said that when complaints were received, it liaised with the police for an increase in foot patrols to the area and with hotel management for its security staff to cover the early hours of the morning.

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Alex Coppola

Aug 20th 2010, 18:08

I quite agree that these so called students should enjoy themselves and you should also agree that they have no right to disturb us as residents especially when it comes to vandalism as they did to my car. I have been living in Swieqi for 20 years and have had few problems with the students except this year especially with the Spanish. Furthermore we have also have to endure the misbehaviour of the Maltese during weekends at all hours during the night coming from nearby Paceville. Perhaps you do not mind having your nights disturbed or finding any sort of mess in front of your residence or fearing some sort of damage to your car. Yes everybody has a right to enjoy his/herself but have no right to deny a good nights' sleep to us residents.

wcuschieri

Aug 20th 2010, 18:33

Mr Spot, I don't think that being a teenager is an excuse for being unruly and rowdy. Apart from that here we are not only talking about that but we are discussing vandalism. Their youth shouldn't exempt them from the law. Does their vandalism and terrible behaviour amuse you? I certainly don't find it amusing. It is quite worrying actually. It shows that these people believe that they are above the law because they are young. I really can't understand where you are coming from with your argument which I understand is basically that because you are old you believe that a situation like this is normal as it is part of their 'childhood'. Robbing them of their childhood? these are not children! I would say most of them are in their early 20s or late teens! They should be responsible for their actions!

Alex Coppola

Aug 20th 2010, 18:15

Mr. Galea it is not a question of hatred pointed towards our European counterparts. With your reasoning we should not allow tourists of any nationality visiting us. We are only condemning their misbehaviour - shouting, clapping, the mess they leave in front of our doorsteps as well as vandalism otherwise everybody is welcome. For your information appeals to the police and local council have so far fell on deaf ears. And by the way what effect their presence are having on our economy?

D.Galea

Aug 20th 2010, 20:06

Mr.Coppola What I am commenting on is that if this is happening is because it IS permitted to happen. My language is being kept simply enough. If these students are coming here they are under the responsability of somebody, other then that they will behave as any person those ages around the whole wide world including the Maltese believe it or not given the liberties to do so. My logic withstands as these students are no less our European counterparts as any other tourist thus merit the same care. It does not make sense at all that because people have given up on the authorities then they should redirect their anger towards the students themselves or any other person for that matter. Yes it is stupid. Economy, why should I care? Those in the know should.

E.Schembri

Aug 20th 2010, 12:21

Well said!

While the scum of Europe is allowed to roam freely and destroy our island, we Maltese are being constrained to living indoors and having BBQ's on our roofs, if you're lucky to have one.

The article says that there were no complaints from tourists, that's because the high class tourists no longer visit our island and we seem to be happy with this new class of 'hooligan' tourists.

Mr Prime Minister, get rid of this scum and enforce our laws on these parasites, before our country becomes know as the garbage can of Europe where students come here to drink, party and destroy, ...as all this is unthinkable in their home countries where the authorities use an iron fist on law breakers.

S. Cacciottolo

Aug 20th 2010, 11:24

Exactly and they don't even care about cars coming by. They pretend that a car stops in a split second because they have decided to cross the street without even giving signs of such action. Then if someone gets in an accident it's always the driver who gets blamed. I was going up tower road and they came out in front of my car chatting and ignoring the traffic being kept. They are disrespectful and I think their parents should have closed them somewhere and threw the key instead of sending them here to disgust us.

If any one calls spitting to people from balconies good education I suggest to like it up in the dictionary. This what happened some days ago in Sliema to a friend of mine. God knows what illness could they have.

O. Falzon

Aug 20th 2010, 12:01

Last wed i was driving on the road opposite bay street and one student decided to walk in the middle of the road. I drove slowly, waiting for her to move on the pavement however she continued walking there,,, I horned and she opened her hands !! As if the road was her ...

E.Gatt

Aug 20th 2010, 13:44

If TOM had to print an article with all the names of these hooligans and disrespectful youngsters it will surely be a never ending list! and do you really think it will make a difference to them? Theyre going home in around 2 weeks time anyways. Then they will be civilized.. as im sure they dont act this way in their country..
No wonder their parents send them to Malta 'to study english' .. they want to git rid of them during summer holidays! Most of the parents (not to say all) know that their children wont learn a thing..

At the beginning of summer I was taking the bus to St Julians when these groups of kids (13-16 yr olds) got on the same bus... the first thing most of them asked was.. were can we buy alcohol?.. to make things worse.. i overheard a teenager telling them to buy it from the supermarket .. as it cheaper there and the wont be asked for IDs ..
shame shame shame

Mandy Spiteri

Aug 19th 2010, 15:49

Give us a break! You don't know what you're talking about! So what if we decided to reside in Sliema! Normal tourists over many many years coming to the island have never caused any problems what so ever to the Sliema residents! How can you compare a couple or an average family to these hooligans! It's them that are causing all the havoc, not your average tourist!

Probably their parents are glad to have packed them off to a foreign country whilst they sit at home in their own country, in the PEACE & QUIET!

Alex Coppola

Aug 19th 2010, 17:53

@ Mr. Bonello - We have purchased our house in Swieqi 20 years ago when Paceville and St. Julans were not as chaotic as they are today so your argument that we should have known better do not make any sense. No Mr. Bonello these are not rare cases - we have to bear the noise, shouting vandalism ( I have had my left car mirrior stolen last week) every morning between 5 & 7 am and most of them are Spanish. Mr. Bonello these students have every right to enjoy their holiday (I wonder how much English they are learning!) but have no right to disturb other people's lives and sleep. May I ask you Mr. Bonello in which part of Malta you live, perhaps you do not have any such problems and always enjoy a good nights' sleep. May I also ask what good money do they bring, perhaps lining the hoteliers pockets and us paying for the vandalism from our hard eanred money. Come on Mr. Bonello your comments are very egoistic to say the least.

P. Azzopardi

Aug 20th 2010, 07:35

What does this mean???? Aren't we free to choose the locality where we want to live? Just because some uncontrolled,stupid, immature and irresponsible teenagers decide to be criminals. Come on, once again Malta is of the Maltese and we have the right to live in peace wherever we want to. I think these schools should be controlled and strict measures taken against them for not controlling these stupid teens. English schools have been popping out like mushrooms now it's the time to stop them once and for all.

Then some foreigners blame us to be racist and so on. We are so patriotic because many foreigners abuse our society and by the way for me they can be white, yellow, red or black. Every foreigner has to respect us, our traditions and our country. Whoever doesn't like it knows where the airport is. It's time someone does something for this bad behaviour.

R Vella

Aug 20th 2010, 09:57

San Gwann is not a touristic area and we experience the same inconvenience and incidents!

Anthony Arpa

Aug 19th 2010, 12:41

Taf kemm idumu sejrin hekk sakemm jinqatlu xi tnejn mihom.
Lili ukoll kisruli il mera tal karozza....imma thank god ma inzertajthom....ghanki hsara f'karozzi ohra ghamlu ghawn San Giljan
Barra li jibqaw jamlu l=istorbju u jixorbu fit toroq sal 5 ta filodu..
San giljan twahhlu tabelli biex juru li had ma jista jixrob barra u hlif nies jixorbu barra i jingumbraw il bankini ma tarax.....u ghalla jbirek qisu mhu jigri xejn.


annette hart

Aug 19th 2010, 17:04

andrea what does qazzistuna mean???

David Bonello

Aug 19th 2010, 12:29

Agree with you 100%. Unacceptable behaviour, especially from spanish students. For sure they don't behave in their country the way they do in Malta. More police patrol needed.

J. J. Borg

Aug 18th 2010, 18:30

And what exactly is a better class of tourist? I understand that human nature being what it is, some tourists are considerate and others less so. Presumably you would like to see more tourists who refuse to stay anywhere than a 5* hotel, who order champagne and caviar for breakfast every day, and who rent personal guides and chauffeurs to see the sights. If so, I suspect that those tourists may prefer to spend their money somewhere other than in this over-populated, over-polluted and dirty little island. So perhaps for our own good, we should aim to treat all tourists with courtesy irrespective of how their 'class'.

J. J. Borg

Aug 18th 2010, 18:31

And with the kind of service we get from our police, can you blame some of these kids for getting out of control?

W Spencer

Aug 18th 2010, 23:29

For goodness sake, this is Malta, things will not change, but people still live in hope, but the fact is, nothing will be done about the students ( lots of people have a financial interest in them continuing to come here ), the police will never patrol the streets at trouble spots ( they are too busy doing.....err......well they are too busy ).

Jackie Dalli

Aug 18th 2010, 23:30

Thumbs up for this comment! It has become the norm on our streets and on the wheel that many so called "civilians" refrain from wearing a shirt/top whatever ... maybe to sport their tattoos! Quite shameful in my opinion and quite degrading for the onlookers. I think there should be hefty fines for such behaviour.

Jesmond Micallef

Aug 19th 2010, 13:33

W.Spencer, if you read the timesofmalta.com on a regular basis, then you should be informed enough to know that the Malta Police Force has introduced a "Police on Beat" service within local communities. Please give merit where it is deserved, W.Spencer !!

W Spencer

Aug 19th 2010, 21:16

@ Jesmond Micallef

I read of the Timesofmalta.com every day, and one thing I have learnt iover the years, is that making new services, new laws, new regulations, etc, is a Maltese Custom. Its when the time comes to implement such services , laws, regulations, that the problems arise.
Further, if such services are actually in action, then due to the increase in crime, it must be quite obvious to even the wearer of " rose tinted glasses " that such a service is certainly not working !! So no credit due.

Paul Saliba

Aug 18th 2010, 17:41

Ray Buhagiar Summien are quails not pheasants which translates to fagan

Ray Buhagiar

Aug 18th 2010, 18:14

Thanks.

robert micallef

Aug 18th 2010, 21:50

yes whats this new thing with quails ? i have around 3 round my house...i have to close the windows and put on the ac :(

Richard Ellul

Aug 18th 2010, 22:05

Hey buddy, you missed the motor bykes and the cars reving and speeding with their base full on in the middle of the night and also maybe parked infront of your house doing you know what with the sound full on. Also maybe some neighbours already got the garbage out with a full stink of fish. The cats myawing after destroying the bag to enter a house that they have been kicked out from.
When are we going to have some decent laws and some law enforcers to have some peace and quite in this country?

mario aquilina

Aug 20th 2010, 06:51

Well said Ray.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: I put a billboard on my balcony that said 'Welcome to this shithole'.

The police took me to court and paid a 70 euro fine. Not worried about the fine, I just want to tell the whole wide world about the lack of respect to one another. It is sickening when I read what some of you write in this newspaper columns about how welcoming we Maltese are, and how we come together when tragedy comes along. It's all bull.
Not easy to improve the Maltese poor mentality.

C Zammit

Aug 18th 2010, 16:44

it is bad that a hotel takes 8 students in a room but its good that a family of already 4 people takes 14 students and dumps them in their basement? a basement that was converted into a 14 bedroom room...and of course 1 shower....i know what I am talking about - a lot of the families hosting students want to beat their next door neighbour and to make more money of course. so please do not talk nonesence. of course now since there is a law with a maximum students in the house its not economical for you anymore...rubbish!!

Leon Zawadzki

Aug 18th 2010, 17:25

@ C Zammit.
The maximum number of student allowed is four, but I agree with you that many so called host families entertain more than the alloted numbers. Language school are obliged by law to regulate the number of students allocated to each host family, but even here corruption raises it head. The reason people are stopping is very simple, where they used to be fully booked for the three month, now they are only booked for three or four week with only one or two students. A point to bare in mind,when hosting small groups of students they normally went out and came in together,unlike the students staying in hotels that go out and return in large numbers in the early hour of the morning. A complete recipe for disaster

W Spencer

Aug 18th 2010, 23:16

Spot on !!

Michael Gatt

Aug 18th 2010, 17:14

Jesmond Micallef The only vigilantes group that needs to be formed is by locals or even to engage a few of the Paceville bouncers to teach these "students" a lesson they shall never forget for the rest of their lives.

Jesmond Micallef

Aug 18th 2010, 18:23

Michael Gatt, Well, since I do not know what you precisely mean by a "Lesson they shall never forget for the rest of their lives", indeed unruly behaviour is never good but so is other type of behaviour !! People can get upset, thats ok and understandable, but the rule of law and order should always prevail whatever the circumstances.

Alexia Vella

Aug 18th 2010, 21:40

Jesmond Micallef since the rule of law is not being applied by the authorities then the people will have to apply their own rules and laws.

Samantha Grima

Aug 18th 2010, 17:20

Nizar Hingari we hope that all English Language schools permits will be revoked next year and no students are allowed to come.

Claire Busuttil

Aug 18th 2010, 21:54

@Samantha- it will be fantastic!!

C Zammit

Aug 18th 2010, 16:36

being loud is one thing - however being arrogant, breaking cars, jumping on cars, throwing mattresses out of a hotel balcony is a different story. ejja tas sliema jew san giljan...

U EJJA COME ON YOU NOW.....well done N. Azzopardi for justifying their actions billi tqabbel lil maltin maghhom....! Vera qieghed turi kemm inti kburi bil pajjiz fejn toqod !!!!

Andrea Portelli

Aug 18th 2010, 16:14

Oh ye a facebook group is the perfect remedy for this problem....

Get to grips and do something more concrete and active if really want to solve this

Thomas Spot

Aug 20th 2010, 16:37

Brilliant idea. Let's let all the English-speaking world know what an intolerant, close-minded and holier-than-thou nation this has become. The only pillar of the economy that is capable of bolstering up the rest of it is tourism. Let's destroy it together. May the innocent throw the first stone. May those who have never ever 'misbehaved' as a teenager speak up first.

Jon Vercellono

Aug 18th 2010, 13:22

The English spoken (and written) in Malta is of a higher standard than that of England. English spoken here is devoid of much of the slang and obscene expressions one would find in the UK - therefore, this actually is a better place to learn English (if you're serious about learning English).

Joseph Calleja

Aug 18th 2010, 17:08

No MrJon Vercellono I am not serious about learning English and neither are the students. Thank you for bringing that up.

Jon Vercellono

Aug 18th 2010, 12:59

Per your second paragraph; that particular problem is in your hands and I sincerely hope that you do not condone it. More people than you realise speak English in Malta everyday as well as Maltese. Condoning the "fact" that English is not spoken - as you say - conveniently overlooks that yes it is and is also an official language. The English Language teachers and facilitators have an even greater chance of improving their own English - as well as leadership skills thereby. The students who wish to practice and learn English should however take advantage of the fact that most people are quite eager to have the opportunity to improve their own spoken English skills. I advocate that the students are separated (nationality by nationality) so they are forced to plunge into the English pool - so to speak. They should not be housed together. However, Maltese teachers of English are among the best (better than the UK as well) and the English which is spoken in Malta - for the most part - is definitely of a higher standard than the slangy English characteristic of the UK.

B Mallia

Aug 18th 2010, 13:56

As someone who has worked as a TEFL teacher in the past, I can assure you that foreign students are well aware that Malta has its own language! However, one cannot deny the fact that we possess a strong command of the English language. We are lucky enough to have numerous facilities catering for this industry, which boosts employment and brings in a substantial amount of revenue all year round. Having said that, I do not justify their behaviour, but I strongly believe that students who are actually willing to improve their English can do so in our country.

Michael Gatt

Aug 18th 2010, 12:12

R.Degiorgio Sur degiorgio, il-Maltin huma kontra kemm il-klandestini u kontra dawn studenti li qed jingiebu hawn Malta. Ghandha tinbidel il-ligi biex l-iskejjel ikollhom jagħmlu depozitu kbir il-Qorti li jintilef awtomatikament jekk xi wiehed mill-istudenti taghhom jaghmel xi haga. Hekk biss jistghu jkunu u jinzammu risponsabbli ta' l-studenti li qed igibu.

CZARB

Aug 18th 2010, 12:16

While I do condemn what these students are doing, let us not mix illegal immigrants with tourists (ie paid guests who will leave Malta sooner rather then later).

PS not all students are white skinned and not all illegal immigrants are dark skinned.

Samantha Grima

Aug 18th 2010, 12:18

Joseph Bugelli Yes Mr Bugelli, they must be refused. They are simply riff-raff and rabble who come here to disturb us and destroy our tourism. We do not want this scum in Malta.

Joyce Daniels&Fam.

Aug 18th 2010, 12:01

This is the no 1 reason why we stopped comming to Malta on our twice yearly holidays, summer and Easter, now we found peace and quiet in another Mediterranean resort, we have to say goodbye to malta for ever until drastic measures are taken to get rid of these louts/muggets from out of spaceor whatever hole they crawled out from and now roaming about on the island causing havoc not only to the locals but also us the tourists whom you people depend on so badly for the good of YOUR COUNTRY, but for now its goodbye...hopefully WE WILL BE BACK IN THE FUTURE.

Iris parker

Aug 18th 2010, 14:52

Joyce my dear we stopped going to Malta some 18 months ago now for the very same reason, we use to go over to relax - no stress, but every time we used to end up going at the local chemist over there to get some asprins to relief tension from these nosey students in Bugibba. I tell you what try a different resort another country you never know what you are missing after Malta and i must say alot cheaper.

Dennis Cameron

Aug 18th 2010, 15:30

Well here is one for the books, we have tried a new resort in Cyprus and guess what we never looked back since. Malta for us is a has been and these nosey students from Spain or whatever was the final straw. Good Luck anyroad

David Medhurst

Aug 18th 2010, 17:38

We too have decided this is the last visit to Malta until things come back to some kind of perspective. This year for our third visit of the year we are a party of 18 adults and we have never scrimped on our spending while we have been here. All paying the extra € to bring dive equipment on air Malta. We have hired 5 cars and we All eat out at least twice every day plus several hundred € for diving services. I personally have visited Malta at least twice a year since 1973 but I'm sorry. I resent paying premium rates for hotels whole rowdy students make our stay a misery while they pay a fraction of the cost. We feel cheated but will put up with it. Our protest next year and years to come will be with our wallets. Thanks Malta but goodbye.

Maxwell Walsh retired RN

Aug 18th 2010, 19:01

David i don't know you personally but you can add our name to your list, as we too will not be visitng the island of malta until their government or whoever is in charge will see some senc e for thegood of his country, but i can asure you little by little or bit by bit we Britons are seeking other pastures new, We don't have to put up with these spanish, Italians or where ever they come from for long. I suggest to the local Education authorities to stop and think and most of all stop shitting in their own nest .These foreign kids are ruining the Malta's image and the country as a whole. Think about it you know it make sence.

Salvu Schembri

Aug 18th 2010, 12:16

CZARB Students are students? This is no excuse Zarb. If they as much as touch my car they will be taken back in a coffin because that is what the authorities are waiting for before they take any action.

CZARB

Aug 18th 2010, 12:35

Salvu read my post again pls. I am actually against those who close an eye or two to what is going on.

Jacob Sammut

Aug 18th 2010, 12:20

Alexander Borg can you tell us what interests you personally have in the students and the English Schools?

Tony Bonello

Aug 18th 2010, 12:55

Alex I agree with you when I was a youngster myself there was the fashion of the VW or Mercedes badges only God know how much I had but I was young and didn't think before I act. Apart stuffing potatos in silencers, and making damage to the car or the car behind. And who never skinny dipped. Where I live there are no students but I here young people coming in shouting at 6 am in the morning and they are Maltese.

Charles Callus

Aug 18th 2010, 13:35


Dearest Mr Borg,

Why don't you tell me where you live so that I an come over and puke and relieve myself on your front door? How about I come I come and sing and dance at around 4.25am under your window? How about I come round and scratch your car (since you are well accustomed to it) and break your side mirrors for you?

"Students will be students" Well, I'm very sorry if some of you were this type of student. Excusing indiscipline and disrespect towards others is never a solution.

".....when the main complaints originated from tourists because of the young students staying in the same hotel, this year it had no such recorded complaints from tourists over the past months".

And what tourists would these be? Certainly not the ones that have cancelled their bookings for one reason or an other. Certainly not the tourists who have been complaining year after year and finally gave up because they know that in Malta very little gets done unless someone drops dead and we get mentioned in the international papers?




George Fenech

Aug 18th 2010, 12:32

You are right. This is what the authorities are waiting for before they take any action. Someone to lose his temper and when the students end up badly they will try to blame him or her for taking the law in his or her own hands, but what can the authorities expect when they are not taking any action against these trouble makers?

C. Schembri

Aug 18th 2010, 14:28

Yeap I totally agree with you !!

CZARB

Aug 18th 2010, 12:19

Every citizen in Malta deserves a good night sleep. Noise pollution and lack of manners should never be tolerated.

Joseph Camilleri

Aug 18th 2010, 12:25

Ryan Bugeja they come here to learn English at the language schools, they have a contract with the language schools so the schools are responsible for them 24/7. If they don't want to shoulder their responsibility their license should be revoked and never given back again.

Ryan Bugeja

Aug 18th 2010, 13:37

@CZARB
I invite you to come to my neighbourhood, and without a sign of foreign students you will still find noisy neighbours who might or might not let one sleep the full length of the night or siesta time... but I sleep anyway, and I'm no super man yet :)

@Joseph Camilleri
I'm afraid you're very wrong... language schools are responsible for their students during lessons, during their activities, and in premises used by the school to accommodate them. If while going back home (or during a free day) they decide to wreck a car, swim naked, or sing aloud... that's up to the police to take action.

Joseph Camilleri

Aug 18th 2010, 17:29

Ryan Bugeja then the government should order the schools to include their responsibility for every student they have from the moment they arrive to the moment their aircraft takes off.

Paul kew

Aug 18th 2010, 13:22

How would you like it if you have saved up all year to have a holiday on your wonderful island and you end up with students in your hotel misbehaving,especially when you have paid a lot of money for your holiday. Would you like it if you had paid say €700+ for your holiday say in Spain and you ere in the same situation. I don't think so!

Peter Cassar

Aug 18th 2010, 12:28

When we call the police they say that they are too busy, our Local council and Major are none existent, it is as though we do not have a local council in St. Julians.

THE AUTHORITIES ARE USELESS. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND YOUR PROPERTY AND YOURSELF. JUST DO IT.

Carnel Falzon

Aug 18th 2010, 12:34

Nicky Diacono justr waith when some candidate comes knocking on my door. I will open it and them slam it in their face as they are doing to us now.

sharon pace

Aug 18th 2010, 11:23

In fact that's why I said stricter rules need to be enforced so that those students who are misbehaving will be punished. Those who are not misbehaving need not worry they are not bothering anyone. Its not fair imma li nies li joqodu f'daawn l inhawi ibatu and have their property damaged every summer

W Spencer

Aug 18th 2010, 11:07

Could it be that Foreigners see Malta / Gozo as grubby, corrupt, and lawless, where every Local does exactly as they please, irrespective of rules, regulations, and laws ??

So they may well think, why should they not follow the Local's example and attitude ??

CZARB

Aug 18th 2010, 12:22

You're right Mr Spencer. Just look at our crime rate which is so high when compared to countries like Britain.

lgalea

Aug 18th 2010, 12:41

CZARB I hope that you wrote with tongue in cheek as otherwise I can give you a whole list of links about crime in the UK.

W Spencer

Aug 18th 2010, 19:20

@ lgalea

Yes I am sure that you can quote crimes in the UK ( mostly committed by foreigners ), but, there are 63,000,000 people in the UK, and a measley 400,000 people in the Maltese Islands.

I wonder if one did a pro-rata survey, would the Maltese Islands be any less crime ridden than the UK. The truth is that there has been a big increase in crimes, and Local criminals at work in the Maltese Islands compared to a few years ago. So please do not use UK crime figures to try and play down the crime wave ( carried our mostly by LOCALS ), in the Maltese Islands.

Yet another poster living in denial perhaps ??

lgalea

Aug 19th 2010, 09:53

W Spencer many crimes are committed by foreigners in the UK as in Malta, but I am sure that if you take the percentage the UK's percentage is greater than Malta's. I don't want to play down the crimes committed by the locals in any way but that doesn't mean that we have to be happy with these students and their antics. Hope that you will not have your car vandalized by some of these students or perhaps not be allowed to sleep with their rowdiness because I am sure that you will then reason otherwise.

Melissa Bagley

Aug 18th 2010, 12:00

Agreed - somebody decide to walk over my car, in Birkirkara, denting the hood. Certainly not a prime/popular tourist/EFL student area. Another time I find my car scratched and side mirror busted, not in a prime tourist area.

Albert Farrugia

Aug 18th 2010, 12:08

You seem to be a very enlightened guy, Mr Finch. So you mean we should let Malta become a toilet for economic gain? You might never have heard "normal" tourists complain about the unruly behavour of these "students" when they are accomodated in hotels. It is THEY who might be the ruin of tourism in Malta, dear Mr Finch.

T Camilleri

Aug 18th 2010, 12:44

Chris Finch we don't need this filth or their money Chris.

Melissa Bagley do you think that foreign english language students are confined to the Sliema, St Julians etc area?

Marvin Mizzi

Aug 18th 2010, 14:00

First of all these are not tourist...... on the contrary they are send the really tourist away...... no one would like to pay good money to stay in a good hotel and then find oneself like in a hostel. Secondly law have to be adhere even by this foreigners who just do what they want screaming shouting thowing water and distrubing passers by. And finally are we paying less taxes because these students are enriching the coffers of the country....... luck you then if your are paying less because many Maltese people are paying large amount to make up for the inefficiencies of this administration......Large sums are being spent to promote Malta as a tourist destination and instead of heaving quality tourism....... we are left with some students playing with a bottle of water.

A. Schembri

Aug 18th 2010, 11:18

Enzo,, please don't get me wrong.

I am not justifying such unacceptable behaviour. Such people, students or not, shoud be kicked out of Malta. I am sure we do not want a new IBIZA for the wrong reasons. We do not need this sort of trash in our country because yes they do leave a bad image especially during these hard economic times when we surly least need it.


Chris Finch

Aug 18th 2010, 17:48

Albert - Malta became a toilet for economic gain years ago - long before teh EFL students arrived. Look arround - all the construction sites. The sea polluted by the fishfarms and tuna almost extinct - all for econimic gain. You are very wrong Albert, Malta does need their money. Why do you think the government makes it easy for them to come here?

Marvin, how many of the hotels would be open today if these students weren't here? How many jobs would be lost? How much more in taxes would you have to pay? The MTA has spent a lot of money promoting Malta as a tourist destination - the Isle of MTV concert, AKON etc. What type of tourists do you think the MTA is trying to attract? You also seem to contradict the article which suggests they are spending a lot of money on alcohol when you say all they do is play with a bottle of water. These tourists spend more money than an elderly couple sitting on their balcony with a bottle of wine between them all night.

Put together a coherent argument before you post please.

Dave Ciappara

Aug 18th 2010, 12:50

Andrew Bonnici whle I agree for more police patrols, why should our police be wasted to control these rowdy students when the English Language Schools are getting all the benefits? Why should we have to pay for the police for the benefit of the language schools?

J Fenech

Aug 18th 2010, 11:01

Spot-on Mr. Azzopardi!
I remember a time at school whenever the teacher entered class everyone would shut up instantly and stand up. Teachers, parents and anyone in some position of authority enjoyed respect of all of us. Look at teenagers(and even pre-teens) now! As a result of political-correct mentality they now think that they have the right to assault parents, teachers, referees, and police officers with impunity! shame on the 'progressiveness'

Franco Farrugia

Aug 18th 2010, 10:40

I take offence at the way you use the word 'trash'. After all, we are ll 'trash'. Yourself included, if I may be so clear. How dare you put everyone in the same bag?
To be honest, now, let me put all my cards on the table. I very regularly go to a particular rocky beach near Sliema which is 90% frequented by foreign students. And I feel completely at ease - it is also quite quiet, as well.
But if I had to be on another beach, generally frequented by Maltese youngsters, ... well, let's just say that it's different.
So, Mr Cocker, who's 'trash', now?

Albert Cocker

Aug 18th 2010, 11:14

Do you have to take things so seriously? There is no such thing as a Euro trailer trash express line.
That aside, I did not imply that all are trailer-trash. Train-stations usually have more than one line.

W Spencer

Aug 18th 2010, 10:40

Why do the foreign students have to come all the way to Malta to learn English ? Why can they not attend English lessons in their own Country's holiday resorts ??

ABORG

Aug 18th 2010, 10:22

i agree with you Mr Bartolo. My aged parents live in swieqi (main road) and in the past have found vandalised, scratched cars, broken mirrors a number of times, and also heavily dented car bonnets...is this fair? if the english language schools like fattening up their pockets at the expense of the ordinary citizen, the least they may do is to contribute by paying for police patrols in these areas!!

P.Pulis

Aug 18th 2010, 12:43

In State schools, the official ratio is 1 teacher per 30 students. With the student polulation going down, this is usually 1 teacher per 25 students.

R.Gauci

Aug 18th 2010, 10:19

Agree with you 100% and I add that in some places such as Sliema,St.Julians,Ta'Xbiex,Bugibba promenades these can also use bicycles to patrol larger areas as it happens abroad!

J.Agius

Aug 18th 2010, 11:20

Yes I have seen police patrolling & running after bag snatchers.They do a good job.But I think for all the places you mention the whole force is not enough to patrol for 24 hrs.Perhaps cctv cameras will solve some problems.Also students should be given a leaflet to show them how to behave when in Malta by those bringing them over.From my experience they send a van to pick them up at airport dump them outside a flat overcrowded allready & than these things follow.

J Borg

Aug 18th 2010, 17:15

At 8 pm on saturday i watcehd 4 spanish students jump on a mans mini cooper outside the fortuna hotel and they proceeded to take pictures as if they had a right to be on his roof. As they dismounted one slammed on his bonnet. They dont care becuase they no there is no one aorund to do anything !

P.Farrugia

Aug 18th 2010, 10:23

Emptying garbage bags into the sea is totally unacceptable!! If you call this "high spirits", I definitely do not! This was done for three consecutive days at Sliema by Spanish students and a report was lodged at the local council office.

R. Azzopardi

Aug 18th 2010, 10:07

Don't generate enough money? You've got your facts wrong. My family owned a bar in paceville for 13 years and foreign students were our main source of income. They threw money away as though it was burning their pockets!

JOHN ATTRAD

Aug 18th 2010, 10:20

Well said Sharon. Some of these so called students are downright RUDE.And coming cver to Malta to learn the English language is only a flimsy excuse; they come over here and abuse our hospitality.and it is about time that the strong arms of the Law deal with them for what they really are;.as trouble makers and nothing else.

James De Giorgio

Aug 18th 2010, 10:23

Sharon you don't know what you're talking about. The Spanish government biss biss spends 1,700 euros on each student that it sends over, inputting them directly into the maltese economy. Just calculate this:

in 2007 when BECA (spanish government scolarships) first started, close to 50,000 spanish students came that summer. 1700 euros x 50,000 students = 85million euros into the Maltese economy.

From Spain alone!! That phenomenon has repeated itself in 2008 and 2009, whereas this year only half that number came coz finally the Spanish government has realised it is in recession.

John Micallef

Aug 18th 2010, 10:30

Mind what you say, I have in brackets they were not selling them alcohol my friend!!


As i have never seen anyone emptying his wallet drinking soft drinks.

@ Mr Schembri, if these things are so minor in you openion (that obviously is effected by your income trough these students) why don't you exchange you house with this Sliema resident that had to sleel with closed windows, you will enjoy it.


Roberta Zammit

Aug 18th 2010, 12:55

Oh is that so R. Azzopardi?
How about the police keeping this bar under surveillance since most students are under 18 years and they should not be drinking or be sold alcohol?
Mr azzopardi, we don't care a hoot whether they throw money around in your bar. They are real pests and getting so much on our nerves that one of these days they are going to end up badly Azzopardi. If you want to make money make if from decent tourists who are of age and not from these cheap drunkards.
They drink in your bar and make a whole mess everywhere else.

Peter Cassar

Aug 18th 2010, 12:58

No Mr James De Giorgio, not into the Maltese economy but into the pockets of the hoteliers. We do not care how much money they put in your pocket because we are fed up with them and either they leave peacefully or we shall do whatever is necessary to protect our interests.

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