Advert

Separated woman arranges marriage of convenience for boyfriend to live in Malta

A separated Maltese woman who wanted to live with her Egyptian boyfriend has been given a one-year jail term suspended for four years after she pleaded guilty to arranging a marriage of convenience between her boyfriend and another Maltese woman.

Carmen Saliba, 48, of Hamrun, pleaded guilty to arranging the marriage so that her boyfriend Yassir Saad Hassan Bayoumy, 34, could stay in Malta and she could live with him.

Mr Bayoumy was charged with entering into the marriage and with being a relapser. He was also given a one-year jail term suspended for four years.

Frances Gatt, 49, of Birkirkara, was given a six-month jail term suspended for two years after she pleaded guilty to marrying Mr Bayoumi for convenience.

Advert

63 Comments

Post comment

Comments are submitted under the express understanding and condition that the editor may, and is authorised to, disclose any/all of the above personal information to any person or entity requesting the information for the purposes of legal action on grounds that such person or entity is aggrieved by any comment so submitted.

At this time your comment will not be displayed immediately upon posting. Please allow some time for your comment to be moderated before it is displayed.

Your User Profile is incomplete.
Please click here to complete your profile before posting comments.

Mike F Abbot

Aug 14th 2010, 12:37

only in the same way that cars lead to accidents

Sue Vella

Aug 14th 2010, 20:58

On the other hand if divorce was legalised, the separated woman could obtain a divorce and marry her Egyptian boyfriend herself.

George Cassar

Aug 13th 2010, 22:08

Jen.Bold What does actually happen in practice in Muslim countries? He says talaq 3 times and he'd divorce his wife if she doesn't agree to his other wives.

Daniel Micallef

Aug 13th 2010, 15:50

In my opinion we all should consider seriously the DIVORCE issue that this little island needs so badly. Looks like it is about time we officially have it here. This would avoid many "unofficial" relationships.

m.abela

Aug 13th 2010, 14:00

Now we are reasoning things out ! PROSIT !!!!!!!!!

Joe Camilleri

Aug 13th 2010, 14:14

Matthew Attard they can go to their partner's country. This is our way of life and if you don't like it you are free to leave.

Matthew Attard

Aug 13th 2010, 14:27

@Joe Camilleri, with your frame of mind, Malta will not get anywhere. So what if the woman had a secure job, a business, children from her past marriage. What will she do? According to you she should leave? There is a specific law, in the EU code of human rights which she can actually look up that defends couples in this circumstance. ( I do not know the code so if you question my intelligence about it, you look it up )

And the people working for her? Family ? Friends? Why should she change her life all over just because there isn't a mere partner visa program like there is every where else in the world.

You clearly have never been in the position, and it shows by your narrow minded answer.

I.Borg

Aug 13th 2010, 14:50

@Matthew Attard - prosit for your reasoning

@Mr.Camilleri, with your reasoning - hypothetically - If Mrs.A is separated because her husband used to beat her up and she now has a foreign boyfriend who she obviously loves, she should leave everything she has here just so that she can go to his country and be happy with him there, no? What if his country has the same mentality we do here?! Can these people be NOWEHERE together just because in Malta we do not have divorce or a fair annulment system?!

Kyle Xuereb

Aug 13th 2010, 15:03

@Joe Camilleri: Constructive non-conservative criticism would be appreciated. Thankyou.

Pierre Sacco

Aug 13th 2010, 18:45

@ Matthew Attard and the rest of the "progressive" folk: A 48 year old woman "in love" with a 34 year old Egyptian. I beleive it's more of an infatuation than actual love! Therefore, divorce is not the answer.

E Gatt

Aug 13th 2010, 20:28

@Pierre Sacco-Matthew Attard and the rest of the "progressive" folk: A 48 year old woman "in love" with a 34 year old Egyptian. I beleive it's more of an infatuation than actual love! Therefore, divorce is not the answer.

Are you really that close minded to say that she cant love him simply because he is 14yrs younger?! Wake up-we`re in 2010! I know so many couples were the husband is much older then the wife or vice versa!

Joe Camilleri

Aug 13th 2010, 22:13

Matthew Attard and the modern commentators. So do you expect that if she chooses to have several foreign lovers they should all be allowed to come to Malta and remain here? Our society has its norms and laws and those deviants who do not want to observe them should get the punishment they deserve.

Pierre Sacco

Aug 17th 2010, 19:33

@E Gatt. I'm afraid Mr Broad Minded has not taken my point. I know that there are couples with the female being older than the male, but I'm wide awake enough, and realistic enough that such partnerships the like the persons involved got to is nothing more than an infatuation. Sadly, a lot of not so bright Maltese women fall in the trap of these foreigners, especially mid east blokes, who's intention is far from being love. They marry for convenience.

Salvu Sciberras

Aug 13th 2010, 14:02

m.abela foreigners should not be able to work in Malta because we have thousands of our own workers unemployed and the foreign workers lower wages and working conditions of Maltese workers. I wonder if you are an employer seeking cheap labour.

Pierre Sacco

Aug 13th 2010, 18:52

Yes, some foreigners may be working and contributing to our economy, as after all the Maltese who emigrated did. In fact they emigrated to work hard. But, the facts show, that many of these so called prospective foreign workers, are nothing other than a burden to our society, and add up to the other bunch of Maltese who beleive that they don't have to work because they have the sacro sanct right to be maintained by their fellow citizens. And they never put up a penny's worth of work.

m.abela

Aug 14th 2010, 08:22

@s schiberras
Actually not an employer.........!!!!

m.abela

Aug 13th 2010, 13:26

if they weren't mid eastern............ would it make a difference to you ?


T Camilleri

Aug 13th 2010, 13:59

Mario Sammut you are right. African illegal immigrants are also doing that. The law must be amended so that if someone enters into a marriage of convenience s/he must be expelled back to his/her own country and banned for life from ever entering Malta again.

Tommy Cassar

Aug 13th 2010, 14:03

Anyone who obtins citizenship fraudulently should have his citizenship revoked and expelled for life from Malta.

Paul Fenech

Aug 13th 2010, 14:04

perfectly agree with you. Send him back forthwith.

Stephen Koludrovic

Aug 13th 2010, 13:00

And what if he,s already married there.

C Ellul

Aug 13th 2010, 13:09

Men can have more than one wife from where he came from.
Women cannot have more than one husband , if they do they are stoned to death.
These guys should be sent back to where they came from.
If his local concubine loves him , she will follow him to kingdom come.
if not , she will not follow him to kingdom come.
Simple!!!.

Joe Caruana

Aug 13th 2010, 13:28

Ronald Biggs entered into a marriage of convenience when he was on the run. It is very common in countries like America and Australia where "marriage for citizenship" is big business. Marry, get citizenship then get the "quick and simple" divorce. The authorities have to deal with sham marriages very firmly. More importantly "simple" divorce will encourage marriage for citizenship not less it.

Joe Gauci

Aug 13th 2010, 14:07

Paul Barrett it hurts the citizens of the country because these low lives do it to cheat and end up on the dole at our expense. Send them all back without any hesitation.

J oatmon

Aug 13th 2010, 13:40

Bigamy is not a crime in most Muslim countries, a man may have up to four wives legally. This is why I am always amazed by European girls marrying Arabs for example, after marriage the husband can select another woman to marry etc, and they all have to stay in the same house, because no wife cannot leave the house without her husbands permission (and she cannot travel to another country without permission also - so no escape).
But the 'do gooders' do not recognize this 'legal fact' for Muslim wives, nor do they understand that a man may commit adultery (it is not a crime), but for a woman it is a crime.
For a woman to prove rape she must have four male witnesses - many people choose not to believe these facts, but they are true nonetheless. This is why the muslin religion is despised by many - it is a giant leap backwards, in human rights and equality.

C Galea

Aug 13th 2010, 11:55

These persons are fully entitled to live together but the archaic and outdated laws of malta prevent them from doing so. Bring divorce in and bring it now. Admittedly they did wrong but love has no boundries.Everybody deserves a second chance in life, stand up all those that are really free of any wrondoings.

Joe zammit

Aug 13th 2010, 14:09

C Galea she can join him in Egypt and be one of his concubines.

martin saliba

Aug 13th 2010, 21:14

@ R. Borg & Joe Zammit. Your christian hearts bleed for your brothers in christ. If that is not evil then what is.

Joe Zammit

Aug 13th 2010, 22:17

martin saliba evil is what they did.

A. Schembri

Aug 13th 2010, 12:09

and being a relapser!!

C Galea

Aug 13th 2010, 14:01

he has not gone skinny dipping yet that is probably why he is still in malta????

J Spiteri

Aug 13th 2010, 11:33

Marriage is a life choice not child's play !

G. Casaletto

Aug 13th 2010, 12:05

Yes, I guess there would be need for divorce if keeping a boyfriend in the country was the basis for your marriage!

David Thake

Aug 13th 2010, 12:42

@ Jspiteri.

Please stop telling people how they should live their lives. Live yours by your own book and noone should interfere with YOUR choices. Stop making mine...

N Bonnici

Aug 13th 2010, 12:50

Well said J Spiteri. If you ain't certain dont marry. One has to marry his/her partner based on how much they love each other and not based on how long they have been going out together. Some couples tend to get married only because they have been going out with each other for a long time and tend to forget whether they really LOVE each other or not. No wonder with the first argument they break up/separate. I dont wanna imagine what will happen if divorce will become legalised in Malta. Poor children. it will be the beginning of the end for Maltese families. Kulhadd ikompli ihawwad u jgerfex. Marriage is a commitment. If you are not ready for commitment simply dont get married. Divorce is just an easy way out. Then alot will end up saying before getting married "U iva umbaghad hemm d-divorzju!!"

j gatt

Aug 13th 2010, 13:06

@J Spiteri, seem this case is an exception, isn`t it? Call it what you will, if this is not a game (married bliss) then if one`s not mistaken, it may be called a threesome?

Marraige is fast becoming or has become a Contract and a Trade, some says, not even fit for pigeons.
Divorce will not solve the marriage break down. It is only a way out of one that failed. The breakdown has already occured
Old sayings,
It is better to have loved and lost than, not to have loved at all.
If at first you do not succeed try and do`nt give up.
Yet some would say that, variety is the spice of life. These days, many are seeking variety with lots of spice.
Beware, it is written, that, one`s life should be an endless struggle & sacrifice, or else one`ll roast in hell.
Take yr pick my friends, you`re free to choose, Or are U?
Taliban have spread their wings?
Live your life the way you choose, but, let live. Let others roast in hell to their hearts content.
The perfect world would be, if all went to heaven, even Satan might repent, thru being lonely

Joseph Micallef

Aug 13th 2010, 13:09

No matter how certain one is - as we say it in Maltese "Iz-zwieg kaxxa maghluqa" - and this is exasperated further by the fact that sex before marriage is frowned upon!

patrick zammit

Aug 13th 2010, 13:18

N Bonnici

"Poor children. it will be the beginning of the end for Maltese families."

In what way would the situation of children be more negatively effected by the introduction of divorce in relation to the situation of those children who's mother is living with another partner who is not their father.
Do you know that our law already caters for children during and after seperation?

T. Krysto

Aug 13th 2010, 13:30

You already have separation, isn't it nearly divorce? Just with the different you can't get married again? So where is the big deal to complete it?
If someone has a problem with divorce because of his faith, it's ok. But not everyone in this country is catholic and believes, so let the get married without involving the church and allow them to get divorced.
I personal find it very sad, that here are people in this country which already has been married, got separated and can't get married again. Especially if they are in Love with a Non EU Partner, that means after 5 Years they have to finish their Love and break up!?

N Bonnici

Aug 13th 2010, 14:05

@patrick zammit - in what way? let me think.....simply because it would be easier for a married man and a woman to choose divorce over trying to reconcile for the sake of holding the family together. Thus, with a higher divorce rate, more and more children will have to face that not so nice reality (being that their parents arent no longer together), and that their parents are living with their boyfriends, which with all the help a child can get (and getting nowadays also) would still be hard to accept or try to deal with. Mothers that way and fathers the other way. Wow thats a nice picture in a child's mind!! (yeah right). With how things are now (no divorce) families arent lasting long. It will be even worse when divorce is legalised. You may not see/imagine it now but once it happens it will be TOO LATE!!!

Evelyn Cassar

Aug 13th 2010, 14:11

T. Krysto divorce only exacerbates the problem with social services seekers happily indulging in our system at our expense.

Joe Camilleri

Aug 13th 2010, 14:13

T. Krysto they can go to their partner's country. This is our way of life and if you don't like it you are free to leave.

patrick zammit

Aug 13th 2010, 14:36

N Bonnici

The absence of divorce legislation has not and will not stop people leaving a marriage they no longer believe in.
If divorce legislation stipulates a condition whereas a couple cannot apply for divorce before spending 4/5 yrs as a separated couple, your concerns would be put to rest.

Advert
Advert