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Students fined for swimming naked

Two Spanish students this morning pleaded guilty to offending public morals by swimming naked in St George’s Bay at around 5.20 a.m.

Pol Prat 20, Javier Peres-Albert, 19, were each jailed for one month suspended for a year and fined €100.

Police Inspector Nikolai Sant told the court that there was a huge problem at St George’s Bay, especially at night, when foreigners got drunk and swam naked.

Magistrate Edwina Grima appealed to authorities to take all the necessary steps to remedy the situation.

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Joseph Schembri

Aug 13th 2010, 20:53

I love your comment Joe :-) Happy to see that you celebrate your sexuality instead of condemning those that are having fun!

I have a feeling that many of these holier than all of thou types are just plain envious of the fun that they cannot have or have never had.

JM Camilleri

Aug 13th 2010, 17:44

you would be a good Moslem fundamentalist. Are you sure you're RC?? Your morals lean very much towards the Moslem religion. Please think before putting pen to paper. Being impulsive never works.

Jason Aquilina

Aug 13th 2010, 17:49

Hey Mario,
Say hi to the staff at Mount Carmel for me, will you?

...ghax trid tkun vera m'ahniex biex thalli nies bhalek jiggerew fit-triq rass!

Joseph Schembri

Aug 13th 2010, 18:58

There must be something not quite right with you if you want to see young men's private parts cut off and displayed in ice at the airport. Meanwhile what do you suggest that we do to women who skinny dip or bathe topless?

Mario Muscat

Aug 13th 2010, 22:10

lol just pulling your legs guys , as far as I am concerned they can swim naked or walk naked down republic street, does not make a difference to me. Peace be with you , I am off to sleep

sam galea

Aug 13th 2010, 13:53

you are exagerrating

B. Cachia

Aug 13th 2010, 14:41

@ Sam Galea: You'll know I'm right when Heaven visits us with the bubonic plague for our sins. Sinners cannot escape the wrath of Heaven! Everyone knows what I'm saying.

SKINNY-DIPPING NEVER!!!

Matthew Mintoff

Aug 13th 2010, 16:24

I hope you are being sarcastic

joseph grima

Aug 13th 2010, 16:27

HAHAHA !! u le jahasra...kemm ghadkom lura......i feel sorry for you

JM Camilleri

Aug 13th 2010, 17:46

i would bring out the army if there are another 1,000 individuals with your mentality. Are you serious? What they did was not right, but come on, aren't you exaggerating!!!!!!!

Mark Zerafa

Aug 13th 2010, 18:35

Maybe you wish to reintroduce the Spanish Inquisition?

Get a life!

Joseph Schembri

Aug 13th 2010, 13:06

Justice Minister - if you ever read these comments - note my reference to Xghajra. The place where I and countless others swam naked is close to you home. Don't you feel bad about this? The police were busy ignoring us though, as good men like your father, Dr. Ugo Mifsud Bonnici and the late Prof Guido de Marco were fighting human rights cases in court. Serious cases. Tell your magistrates (and if you can't do that then tell your police) to stop wasting court time and to solve the huge problem that the so called justice systme has become. Aren't you ashamed that a man has been in prison for 11 years awaiting trial and he is presumed INNOCENT, while court time is wasted by two young men who have dared do what most of us have done countless times?

Joseph Sammut

Aug 13th 2010, 14:20

Nude beaches are usually secluded: would the trash ravellers of Paceville travell to the secluded beach to show their skin? This Paceville thing has got nothing to do with nude beaches.

Joe E Galea

Aug 13th 2010, 12:17

And I have a case in court in which I am suing a person who almost demolished my apartment due to his negligence while carrying construction activities in his plot, it is already almost over a year that my case have been going on and no light at the end of the tunnel is visible yet, as there is always an excuse by the court. Then because 2 youngsetrs show their firilla

S Azzopardi

Aug 13th 2010, 16:56

Making love and striptease... this is too funny!

This comment has made my day!

mjbagley

Aug 13th 2010, 08:57

Immorality? Yeah, like there were cameras underwater? Probably the fish reported that! LOL!

Joe Borg

Aug 12th 2010, 12:09

@ Ian Micallef,

I suggest you try doing it in Spain yourself and see if you get away with a 100 Euro fine!!

That will be a fast way to get of this rock !

Neil Sant

Aug 12th 2010, 20:09

I hear ya mate. I'm out of here in October. It's a nice place to go on holiday but the fundamentalism is getting excessive. Malta will be much more liberal in a few years' time but we've still a long way to go before we actually grow up and mature as a country.

Joseph Sammut

Aug 13th 2010, 06:06

How did they get caught: may there were people at 5am! And with your reasoning, the sooner you get off this rock, the better.

Ernest Vella

Aug 12th 2010, 13:43

Lilek u ghal kull min jiddefendidan l-imbarazz...imissek tisthi Sur Borg...il-flus mhux kollox u min ma jridx jigi ma jigiex imma hemm dik li tissejjah dicenza...hadd m'ghandu d-dritt joffendi l-moralita ta l-iehor meta din taghmel sens...biex jinzel jghum ma jaffordjax jixtri malja dan possibli...mela kemm huwa qammiel.

Min semma r-religjon kattolika jidher li lanqas jaf fuq x'hiex qed jitkellem jew tant ghandu ghal knisja li jrid izzeffina fin-nofs...morali pubblika tissejjah u m'ghandiex x'taqsam ma religjon jew ohra

J Farrugia

Aug 12th 2010, 13:55

malta hija artna u mhux art il-barrani u min jigi hawn irid jagixxi ta nies inkella turist u mhux jitlaq il barra. Ahna meta mmorru barra mill-pajjiz ma niksru ebda ligi ta' hadd. It-turisti jridu jirrispettaw il-ligijiet u tt-tradizzjonijiet taghna inkella, nippreferi mmut bil-guh. Ma rridux ruffjani f'artna. Ghandna bizzejjed Maltin li jtpatpulhom fuq spallejhom.

Joseph Sammut

Aug 13th 2010, 06:11

I don't think what happens at St. Georges Bay/Paceville is a nudist beach issue: it''s Paceville ravelling punto e basta. Proper strict police action is in order here followed by proper court sentencing - no suspended sentences please.

Daniel Vella

Aug 12th 2010, 12:51

Some do it even when they're grown up *winkwink*.

Pajjiz tad-dwejjaq insomma

V.Briffa

Aug 12th 2010, 12:15

Tidher li ilek ma tidhol il-palazz ghax ilha li taritlu l-werqa!!!!!

Jien personali nara sentenza imkabbra, imma jekk hemm ligi ghaliex ma tigiex rispettata ikun x'hin ikun, jewillha ma marrux wara kantuniera jizufjettaw imma fic-centru ta bajja ... mhux biex idahhqu ghamluha mella hallihom igawdu issa, mur amilha pajjizhom aqbzilhom f'xi funtana jew xi stadium u ara tohrog hafif ...

Kevin Cassar

Aug 12th 2010, 14:14

Yes they would! Have you already forgotten that a few weeks ago, the Stupid Brigade went to Mosta to remove unclothed manequins from a shop (that were put up for a very noble cause - a protest against human traficking).

Peter Korsten

Aug 12th 2010, 08:19

Young naked men tend to offend the morals a lot more than young naked women. :)

Rowena Scicluna

Aug 12th 2010, 20:32

@Pierre: That's exactly what I thought!
This country really has nothing better to do than waste police resources on this!
And then the chaos beyond Manwel Dimech bridge this morning was left to fester, without any police presence (as far as I could see) to control the traffic properly! It took me almost 1 hr to get from Swieqi to Mrabat!

C Gatt

Aug 12th 2010, 08:20

Sur Hili, ma nahsiebx li xi hadd Spanja se jisppicca b'sentenza ta' habs lanqas! U billi tmur tghum gharwien fil-hamsa ta filghodu ma jfissierx li Malta tista taghmel li trid! Lanqas li ahna il-Maltin maghmilniex l-istess haga, mhux darba jew tnejn. X'attittudni! Mela jaqaw Malta saret skola gall-barranin bis-surmast li jizzommok wara l-hin. Tifel ta' 19 il-sena jisppica b'rekord kriminali ghax mar jghum gharwin!! U hallina!

Vasilisa Brandenburg

Aug 12th 2010, 14:39

It's good to see them singing... compensates for the sight of grumpy bus driver :-)

Joseph Schembri

Aug 11th 2010, 21:59

One of the best comments that I have read in ages. The morality police backed by Carm Mifsud Bonnici 'the justice minister' are busy looking for naked teenagers while people who need help and are presumed innocent rot in what is laughingly called the justice system. Isthi ministru! Kif tista toroqd bil lejl meta taf li hemm nies il habs ghal snin twal jistennew 'gudizzju' mis sistema bazwija li inti in charge minnha?

E. Ciantar

Aug 11th 2010, 22:06

R. Borg,
5.20am and ALREADY outside. In fact, not even the time to put their clothes on.
What a RESPONSIBLE society.

Stefan Muscat Doublesin

Aug 11th 2010, 22:48

I hope you are being sarcastic.

If not, I should remind you that the DAY is made up of 24 hours and not to judge others by your standards, especially when they are not minors and are on holiday and most especially when they are not disturbing your peace!

Michael Attard

Aug 12th 2010, 00:57

Yeah .. round them up and burn them at the stake! .... doh!

david sciberras

Aug 12th 2010, 08:02

What's rotten is them swimming naked knowing they broke the law.
But also what's rotten is you.
Who are you to judge how awful a society is if others come back at home at a time not to your personal likings?

Matthew Dougall

Aug 11th 2010, 21:57

HAHA, well said mate :)

George Debono

Aug 11th 2010, 21:22

Quite, Timmy

WE SHOULD DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY !

Well, er, actually, they were fined more than the hunter who punched a birdlife guy in the face.

I think we'ver got it all wrong - But then we are christians...

G

Vasilisa Brandenburg

Aug 12th 2010, 14:34

LOL lets declaire war to Spain LOL

Paul Saliba

Aug 11th 2010, 21:45

sandra camilleri xieraq hatfilhom is-sunnara ghax jahsibha lixka!!!!!!!!!

Matthew Dougall

Aug 11th 2010, 21:59

lool tghid :P?

sam galea

Aug 11th 2010, 18:57

where is the shark re[ported last weekend??? or maybe these are the shark

victor pulis

Aug 11th 2010, 19:06

Whatever. Minbarra l-mobile li kisser u xi 'damages'ma jidhirlix li wehel multa. ghallinqas hekk gie rrapurtat.

John Baldacchino

Aug 11th 2010, 18:32

Careful there Joe. You might be arrested for admitting to run a nudist colony in your backyard. Remember that the Moral Majority in Malta is becoming legendary for its daring feats. Before you know it, the nun's brigade that used to patrol Malta's beaches against topless bathers, could well pay you a visit! And do not forget that we have at least two MPs from both sides of the House who believe that the State has some say on what happens in bedrooms. You have opened a can of worms now. The State will have to deal with private swimming pools as well. Before you know it someone will suggest a Private members bill regulating swimming attire in private swimming-pools! Then we'll have the chattering classes yapping about the extents to which nudity and privacy could go hand in hand ... and before you know it we will have to take baths and showers with our clothes on!

Joseph Micallef

Aug 11th 2010, 20:08

Guess Mr. Baldacchino is right. In Malta even if one is having sex in a car with curtains added to the windows, in pitch darkness and somewhere remote, is breaking the law! If that isn't strange I don't know what is!!

MBorg

Aug 11th 2010, 20:53

@ Joseph Micallef
What is so strange about it ? A car is made for driving not for sex

. A car fitted with curtains? Now that is strange.
Does it also comes with pillows and quilt ? You might be " in pitch darkness and somewhere remote " but you will still feel the cold .

Wonders never cease, what a modern world we are living in !

Joseph Micallef

Aug 11th 2010, 21:48

Mr. M Borg my comment was in continuation to what Mr Baldacchino said re nude swimming in his own private pool. Pools are for swimming as well aren't they - not for exhibiting oneself naked - correct? What I am trying to say is that according to Maltese law even if the place is secluded and nobody can see you - you are still breaking to law. And that to me is strange enough yes!

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 18:22

Wehel ftit, u messu ntbaghat 'il barra. Dik vjolenza. Differenti minn dan il-kaz.

Paul Saliba

Aug 11th 2010, 21:45

Maybe they were resting on their backs and their antenna was vertically showing

Joe Xuereb

Aug 11th 2010, 23:56

@ Sur Pulis. Your head is indeed the only thing showing when you're in the water. But if you're naked because your swimming-trunks came off and they're at the bottom, you'll dive for them. And what happens? Your ass cleaves the surface of the water and in a small bay like St. George's, your ample behind fed on good Maltese fare will cause a mini tsunami. Causing a tsunami and causing boats to rock and roll would cost you quite a fine I imagine. So tighten the string round your waist - what waist?! - so you don't lose your knickers.

Gavin Ellul

Aug 11th 2010, 17:41

thumbs up

Stefan Muscat Doublesin

Aug 11th 2010, 17:58

@MBorg

For most the point is that a jail sentence is totally over the top. Taken to court, yes. Fined, yes. Actually even make the fine heftier, like €500! But marked with a criminal record, which can potentially ruin your future life, and then with just a €100 fine?? For swimming in the nude when they are doing no harm to anybody?? And then when a local children gang was terrorising residents and tourists, most of them get away with a telling off? That smells a lot like two weights, two measures to me!

Before going over-the top with foreign students injecting much needed foreign euros into our ailing economy, maybe our criminal courts should consider much worse actions being done by locals.

VStivala

Aug 11th 2010, 17:58

Haha.....first of all; you grouped "skinny-dipping" together with vomiting and sex on a beach.....very different things indeed and whilst I agree the latter two are wrong, a bit of fun in the sea is harmless!

Not many people have their swimming stuff with them at 5:20am in the morning...and no families go to the beach at 5:20am so if you dont like it...you dont see it!

PS: Probably the same type of person who is against topless bathing, having more than one glass of wine a week and smiling at an inappropriate joke!! Lighten up!

PPS:..."you must be really proud of ourselves" makes no English grammar sense ;-) !

A very 'modern' C Gatt

Aug 11th 2010, 18:03

@MBorg
"The police should petrol these beaches more often "

Er we've run out of petrol, will napalm do? LOL

PS and can we stop with this 'modern' business ? The word you are looking for is progressive, liberal or just plain level-headed.

Tony Bonello

Aug 11th 2010, 18:16

Another 1800 mentality person

W Spencer

Aug 11th 2010, 21:06

Forget about the police patrolling the beaches looking for the criminals who wear skimpy swim wear, or go " skinny dipping " in the early hours !!!

Get the police to patrol Malta's lawless stretts, and catch REAL criminals

Teresa Pace

Aug 11th 2010, 21:14

@ MBorg

Well said M Borg. Those are Malta's rules and they should be followed. There is nothing funny about modern society and the lack of values.

@ the others who tried to make fun of the mistakes

A point was being made and it was made loud and clear so well done M Borg. Ha they make fun of silly mistakes but the deeper mistakes they do not even take notices of...thus having no values.

Andrew Azzopardi

Aug 11th 2010, 17:50

I have similar recollections from the late 1970s and 1980s.
Contrary to what many believe, in many respects, Malta was a far more tolerant and lassiez-faire country 30 years ago than it is now.

Tony Bonello

Aug 11th 2010, 18:18

Totally Agree

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 17:34

Ahhhhhhh! 'even to give an example'!!!!!!!!! Using people for our ends, do we? Using YOUNG people as an example, that's some 'law' you have in your mind! That's justice for you. How would you feel if your loved one was used in this manner?

C Gatt

Aug 11th 2010, 18:05

@Ms Busuttil
I think it is comments like this that will lower standards in Malta, especially of Malta as place lo study English LOL

Claire Busuttil

Aug 12th 2010, 00:23

@FFarrugia,
yep! correct to give an example, when it is needed!! That`s called discipline!

Claire Busuttil

Aug 12th 2010, 00:25

@CGatt, on the contrary, I think that we arrived at this stage in our society, because of people, who do not care about the respect between human beings, and people who thinks that everyone is free to do anything he likes to, when this is not the case, when you are living with other people. There are rules!

C Gatt

Aug 11th 2010, 18:07

@Mr Saliba
And what was the 'Maltis' doing up at 6 am, going to work or the early morning mass? LOL

Peter Bonnici

Aug 11th 2010, 18:57

Well, I wonder what you were doing during your English language lessons.

Justin Gerald Saliba

Aug 11th 2010, 19:04

you tell him !! I was off to work ! but there are some bars that stay open till 6:00am

Karl Farrugia

Aug 12th 2010, 00:21

The question here is, why was a bar open at 6am, when it's very clear that they should be closed at 4am? So the followin question comes naturally: why is the police force (farce?) patroling the beach for naked students and not the bars for illegal business?

Food for thought...

Ramon Mizzi

Aug 11th 2010, 17:33

I think the cops have nothing more to do, then we whinge around that we don't get tourist.... What if they were girls? Would they still fine them or perf on them? HEY COPS, LET EVERYONE BE. The other day I was filming at Bay Street and two cops walked to me and dutifully asked what I was doing. I quickly answered them with respect as it was their job to ask, but one of them just started being rude and treating me as if I was an idiot or a school boy, although the other one was nice and friendly. Maltese cops should be given a REAL COURSE in PR rather than Bully people especially students.

F Fenech

Aug 12th 2010, 01:39

LOL! .. I'm hoping you comment is a joke! xD

Charlene Amato

Aug 11th 2010, 17:55

Franco Farrugia if we are the laughing stock of the world because of expecting foreigners to respect our values and laws then so be it.

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 18:28

@ Charlene Amato - Get off your high and pious horse, with your 'values' and 'laws'! If we had to put a million Maltese people, we wouldn't find a single value worth following. Ever heard of the 'oqbra mbajda' Maltese expression? VERY Maltese!

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 16:40

Yes, THERE you have valid points. Cleanliness is important. Keeping the bay ship-shape is important. Ensuring the safety and health of all users of the beach is important. But don't come telling me that you take to court some youngsters because in the middle of the night, they decide to swim naked and fine them 100 euros and jail them for one month (ok, suspended sentence, so what)! That is crazy! I agree with you: cleanliness and safety are of the utmost importance. Even propriety and decency are important in my books, but NOT to the extent of taking them to court!

Andrew Azzopardi

Aug 11th 2010, 17:19

Mr Pace Gouder
These lads were not charged, and subsequently fined and given a suspended jail sentence for endangering their own or others' safety, nor for littering or for drunkenness, but for 'offending public morals', whatever that may be.
If nothing else, as a taxpayer, I very much object to this scandalous waste of public resources.

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 17:38

@ Mr Andrew Azzopardi: And especially when there is such a heavy backlog of pending cases before the Courts! Some even going back some twenty years!

Anthony Formosa

Aug 11th 2010, 16:46

Mr Farrugia, the law is the law for everyone. Kieku kien kaccatur li spara u qatel summiena il- Hadd wara nofsinhar are x'hangra kont tiftah l-ewwel wiehed.

Paul Muscat

Aug 11th 2010, 16:56

Tajjeb ghedtlu sur Anthony Formosa

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 17:04

@ Anthony Formosa - Lilek, nafek mill-kummenti tieghek favur il-kacca, jigifieri, tajjeb nghiduha dik. Il-hdura li hawn ghal min jitkellem bhali kontra l-kacca, hija kbira. Ghall-informazzjoni tieghek, jien kontra l-kacca u l-insib MHUX GHAX HIJA KONTRA L-LIGI - GHALIJA, L-LIGI TISTA' TIBQA' TIPPERMETTI L-KACCA GHAL DEJJEM, GHAX XORTA NIBQA' KONTRA L-KACCA! - IMMA GHAX TMUR KONTRA N-NATURA U KONTRA L-HAJJA U GHAL DAQSHEKK, JIEN NIBQA' KONTRA TAGHKOM! Il-kumment tieghek, m'ghandu xejn x'jaqsam mal-kwistjoni li hawn hawn. Ikber naqra. Immatura. Aqra. Xtarr. Ahseb sew. Hu parir. Umbaghad, forsi, dejjaqna bil-kitba tieghek.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Aug 11th 2010, 18:04

Franco Farrugia, Anthony Formosa's comment is valid indeed! You are using an absolutely different line of reasoning here! The Law is there for everyone! It is there to defend wardens which may be given a lesson by a normal citizen, for those who illegally swim in the nude, etc. For those readers who follow these online blogs, it is pretty obvious where "Il-hdura li hawn" comes from. Meanwhile, you have to put up with LEGAL HUNTING whether you like it or not.

David Caruana

Aug 11th 2010, 19:15

Mrs. Zarb Darmanin,

"The Law is there for everyone!"

Funny thing, the Law....

- Policeman caught hunting illegally wearing a balaclava : one-month jail term, suspended for a year

- 2 youngsters swimming naked : one-month jail term, suspended for a year + 100EUR fine

http://stocks.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100429/local/suspended-jail-term-for-policeman-caught-hunting-illegally

H Galea

Aug 11th 2010, 16:32

Mr M Agius, do you go round at 0500 in the morning on the beach. I cannot see why you are barking too loud, christ is also half naked on the cross and in church.What have you to say.

M Agius

Aug 11th 2010, 16:52

I was asking about public morals. I invite you to re read my comment.

Franco Farrugia

Aug 11th 2010, 16:26

AAAAAH! But that's different! Those are Maltese beltin, usually, swimming there and nobody would care one iota!
And another thing - at that time, Maltese society was not up in arms, and in panic-stations, over the fact that things are a-changing!

H Galea

Aug 11th 2010, 16:40

Mr M Agius, do you go round at 0500 in the morning on the beach. I cannot see why you are barking too loud, christ is also half naked on the cross and in church.What have you to say.
Mr Ellul, even the popes used to enjoy the paintings in the Vatican.The nuns never complained as well.

Joseph Micallef

Aug 11th 2010, 20:02

Mr. Ellul. I believe for one to break public morals one has to be witnessed by the public no? Now we are talking of 5am! What public ma I ask? Yes the law counts at any time ok but one has to be reasonable as well. Had they been swimming naked at 10am in front of women and children that would have been another story. Why do we Maltese have to be always so uptight!!!

G Pace

Aug 11th 2010, 15:30

Minors wandering around St George's Bay at 5.20am (in the dark) - I think not.....it is one thing at 5:20pm and quite another at 5:20 AM..... this is very much Prudish Malta to the forefront!

Joseph Aquilina

Aug 11th 2010, 16:04

“… this is very much Prudish Malta to the forefront!” … no, it’s called an example!

Gavin Ellul

Aug 11th 2010, 17:20

naqbel perfettament. prosit.

david camilleri

Aug 11th 2010, 15:20

Your correct, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...they now expect the Maltese Inquisition!

Graham Crocker

Aug 12th 2010, 10:16

Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise....

G. Saliba

Aug 11th 2010, 15:13

A protest skinny-dip. Brilliant! Time and Place please (shall we invite Edwina?)

George Micallef

Aug 11th 2010, 15:14

How about "A boy name Sue" by Johnnie Cash?

G. Borg

Aug 11th 2010, 17:03

Can you imagine how many more problems he would have if his name was Wally Prat ??..........Pot and Kettle come to mind.

Paul Camilleri

Aug 11th 2010, 15:25

Malachy Portelli would you care to give us your vision of how Malta is going to be like as your Patron Saint did so well with his identity of the last 112 Popes?

C. Grech

Aug 11th 2010, 15:01

...so after mid September they can do it again!!!!

Sergio Vassallo

Aug 11th 2010, 14:54

C.Borg ashamed? they should have been sent to prison to be made an example of. Who do these students think they are?

Stefan Muscat Doublesin

Aug 11th 2010, 15:13

@Sergio Vassallo

you seem to be blissfully unaware of the rampant nudism practiced by MALTESE over-50 yr olds on some remote sandy beaches
or maybe you just ignore it because it is convenient to you, as representative of the typical hypocritical moral maltese

Sergio Vassallo

Aug 11th 2010, 15:20

Stefan Muscat Doublesin do you think everyone is like you?

Stefan Muscat Doublesin

Aug 11th 2010, 15:34

@Sergio Vassallo

Definitely not, otherwise we'd be living in a utopia!

(PS. Please excuse my apparent stupidity, but what's your comment even supposed to mean??)

Sergio Vassallo

Aug 11th 2010, 15:39

Stefan Muscat Doublesin did you know that they say that it takes a thief to catch a thief? Hope you understand.

Stefan Muscat Doublesin

Aug 11th 2010, 16:45

@Sergio Vassallo

Since there is my full name published here I will have to dignify an otherwise totally irrelevant and utterly mediocre comment with a response.

No, I am NOT one of those MALTESE over-50 yr olds practicing naturism on some local remote sandy beaches.

Likewise I am NOT one of the typical hypocritical moral maltese.

Mr Vassallo, being aware and informed of one's environment and events and actions happening around you is not tantamount to actually performing them. Neither does it equate to judging them.

I feel it is much better to be informed than living in a blissful ignorance as most institutions in this country seem to want us to live, I'm sorry to say. And I am not making any political references, though probably my comment will be interpreted as such by a number of readers.

Claire Busuttil

Aug 12th 2010, 00:32

@CBorg, int ok jew???

S Witt

Aug 11th 2010, 19:25

mmm it is part of the blue flag programme to make sure that there are no jellyfish in such beaches???

Amanda Catania

Aug 11th 2010, 15:41

Do you usually do so Maria Vella?

Charles Borg

Aug 11th 2010, 16:13

the fine wasnt about being drunk it was about skinny dipping..

N. Bonnici

Aug 11th 2010, 14:57

Sorry but if we all think like you we will end up walking naked in public area too. There is a place for everything. If they wanna swim naked they can do it in their bathtubs. Having small children seeing naked people swimming isnt such a good idea.

c micallef

Aug 11th 2010, 16:01

What children? How many children do you know who wander around alone in the dark on a beach at 5 in the morning.

N. Bonnici

Aug 11th 2010, 14:48

Isnt there a nudist beach near Gnejna bay?

Joseph Aquilina

Aug 11th 2010, 15:19

@Karl Consiglio
Enlighten me, why?

Stefan Vella

Aug 11th 2010, 17:12

@Aquilina

Why? Simple really - a question of choice.

Carmel Falzon

Aug 11th 2010, 15:11

You are right VV Bartolo. The police will only take action when one or more of these students will end up in hospital or worse because everyone is fed up with them.

Joe Zammit

Aug 11th 2010, 15:31

VV Bartolo this is what started vigilantes taking the law in their own hands in other countries. Inaction by the authorities against these low lives.

David Ciappara

Aug 11th 2010, 18:04

VV Bartolo it's about time people started getting together on a neighborhood watch and teach these vandals a lesson they will never forget.

George Fenech

Aug 11th 2010, 18:42

David Ciappara and then perhaps call the police after they've finished with them.

John Pace

Aug 11th 2010, 15:06

jane camilleri haber I agree with you.

Marthese Mussett

Aug 11th 2010, 17:42

Exactly.I d rather see them catch the ones that bound and robbed a 79 year old woman in her old home this morning.

M Muscat

Aug 11th 2010, 13:58

Get a life Mr Cauchi. It's not like they were murdering anybody. Sense of values!! I don't see the Maltese any better or worse than other Europeans

G Debattista

Aug 11th 2010, 14:12

@M Muscat
I think Ronald was being sarcastic

... I hope!

joseph grima

Aug 11th 2010, 15:08

chop off their appendages ?? prosit ...what moral values you possess. a very sick moral value i would say and it needs to treated ..ASAP. I thought it was the barbarians that did the chopping thing...boing !! qum minn hemm Mr cauch

Joseph Micallef

Aug 11th 2010, 19:45

Mr. Cauchi was definitely being sarcastic. Can't you just see that?!!!

Colin Schembri

Aug 11th 2010, 14:01

hahahahahahahaha

joseph grima

Aug 11th 2010, 15:02

we should start fining narow minded people for a 1000eu each time...that would stop the old fashioned outdated ignorance.

M Mifsud

Aug 11th 2010, 16:07

You'll be surprised! Every night, especially in summer, there are quite a few foreign students at the hospital emergency ward suffering from something else!

Paul Pace

Aug 11th 2010, 14:29

Tirraguna Mr. Cutajar!
Int hekk taghmel meta s-sifer?
"You tend to go a little bit over the drinking limit"?
Or you are matured enough not to do so?
Almost every day at 5.30 am I walk along this bay to Pembroke and back for I live very close.
The filty blue flag bay is cleaned by a gentleman at that time.
The jumby bungy is still running at that time even till 6.30am. You can image the noise and screaming which can be heard from Swieqi.
Finally what about "sex on the beach". No, it is not a cocktail it's real!
This happens year in year out.
Mr Cutajar it seems that you do not live near, because I am sure you will change you way of reasoning.

Chris Fenech

Aug 11th 2010, 14:42

You couldn't have said it better !!!

C Zammit

Aug 11th 2010, 15:17

They are in a foreign country so they have to respect that.. you said, they owe the country nothing??? they owe a little respect towards YOU to start off with...so please YOU don't make me laugh.
the students do not come here to learn English - i know what i am saying as i work in tourism. They come here to get drunk and yes to do things that in their country is banned. so yes i repeat kick them out.

Albert Storace

Aug 11th 2010, 14:23

Go get a life!!!!

Joseph Camenzuli

Aug 11th 2010, 14:59

Good idea adrian agius. These students are only scum coming here to enjoy themselves and disrupt our life with their excesses. Someone should start a petition to stop the language schools and in the meantime fine them at least €10,000 for every incident that their students cause.

M.A. Borg

Aug 11th 2010, 13:27

You think that would stop this kind of horrendous and unnatural action? We need establish court-martial and apply immediate capital punishment with criminals like these. Also total ban for at least Spanish nationals to enter Malta.

M Degiorgio

Aug 11th 2010, 13:41

as the queen of hearts would say: "Off with their heads!"


J.Zammit

Aug 11th 2010, 14:07

@M.A. Borg

Swimming in the nude is an "unnatural action"??
ToM quote of the week.

Vasilisa Brandenburg

Aug 11th 2010, 14:08

oh oh oh what a disgrace, what a shame... Note should have been sent to Spanish ambassador too... I mean... this equals to capturing spanish spies.... but worst as spies wouldnt have anything dingelling down under :-)))

Josephine Bugeja

Aug 11th 2010, 14:22

@M.A. Borg: are you just being sarcastic or are your being serious? If you mean to be serious, I think your hysteria is totally out of place. Spanish nationals are EU citizens and can come to Malta as they please in the same way we can go to any EU country freely. Court martials are for military personnel only and our Army Act no longer contemplates the capital punishment, not even for treason in wartime. Nude bathing is not "unnatural" but very natural as clothes are not part of nature. Nude bathing gives a different sensation to bathing in a swimming costume. It seems that in this country morality is confined to sexual matters and nudity. What small minds. If nude bathing is illegal, prosecute the offenders by all means but do not resort to hysterics and witch-hunts.

It seems that Malta is becoming more and more introvert, isolated, intolerant, censorship-minded and medieval in a world where the West becomes more liberal in its attitude to sex. It is difficult to analyse why some Maltese choose to try and cocoon themselves into a Liliputian universe of their own.

Eman cachia

Aug 11th 2010, 15:16

What a waste of time and money, just for swimming naked. Really stupid laws....

Charles Grixti

Aug 12th 2010, 07:20

May I ask the Police to see that these foreign students do not cause more damages and inconvenience in our streets. I live in B'kara Hill St. Julians and my car and several others' of my neighbours have been vandalized for more than once.
We also have to put up with rowdy students in the early hours of morning.

To my knowledge St. George's bay is monitored by CCTV cameras. Why is it then that these students are left to litter this bay which has cost us millions of euros when locals are fined if they take out their garbage bags overnight?????

pauline borg

Aug 12th 2010, 15:57

u riviera kollha topless it turisti nisa!
il police ma jmorrux hemm sa ghajn tuffieha?

Francesca Formosa

Aug 12th 2010, 17:25

well said Charles

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