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Porn free? MP insists on censorship

Labour MP Adrian Vassallo would rather live in Iran and riot in the streets to defend his religion than live in a country where pornography is available in hotel rooms.

"Regardless of what (Labour MP) Owen Bonnici says, I am 100 per cent in favour of censorship and I told the party that if there's a vote I will not vote against censorship," he said yesterday.

He gave the example of a film recently aired on cable television showing a man being cloned from Jesus. In a Muslim country, a similar film about Mohammed would provoke riots, he said. Asked whether he preferred to live in such a society, he said he would not only prefer it but would be one of the people rioting.

"I honestly believe that's the only solution... I don't think we can keep on living like this with everyone ridiculing religion."

Dr Vassallo, 55, last week asked in Parliament whether any action would be taken against hotels that made money from pornographic TV channels. He also complained about pornographic channels on cable television.

In a written reply in Parliament yesterday, Justice Minister Carmelo Mifsud Bonnici said the police would investigate the allegations.

Contacted to elaborate on his views, Dr Vassallo said he asked the question because he did not tolerate people breaking the law and if the government wanted pornography to be legal it should change the law, not just ignore those who broke it.

He said pornography was degrading and unhealthy for society and hotels that offered pornography on TV in their rooms should be treated no differently than the porn cinema in Valletta that was shut down last year.

Dr Vassallo agreed "100 per cent" with Nationalist MP Edwin Vassallo who recently said the state had a role to inform people about the consequences of their private decisions and that what happened in the bedroom assumed a public dimension when it was the government that had to deal with the problems caused there.

Thirty years ago, Dr Vassallo noted, he had not heard of single mothers but now he feared Malta was on its way to becoming like the UK "where children kill and rape each other".

When contacted, shadow culture minister Dr Bonnici said the laws on whether pornography could be allowed in hotels were unclear but this was a standard accepted throughout Europe.

He said that as long as pornography was not accessible to children and consumed as a conscious choice, it did not bother him. Dr Vassallo was one of his closest friends and such disagreements made the party healthy.

Meanwhile, hoteliers Winston J. Zahra and Claire Xuereb said pornographic pay-tv channels in hotel rooms were standard worldwide and, as long as there was no access to children, it should remain that way.

"If the law needs to be updated to reflect this reality then a proper mature discussion should take place... but let's not use the moral high horse approach on visitors to our island who may have differing values on the matter," Mr Zahra, CEO of Island Hotels Group, said.

Ms Xuereb, of the Palace Hotel, said this was a service hotels should offer because it was in high demand by corporate clients.

The president of the Malta Hotels and Restaurants Association, George Micallef said not all hotels provided such services but the association had no problem with those that did, as long as it was not against the law.

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Louise Cassar

Jun 12th 2010, 10:13

I'm not saying pornography is good, or bad - that is not my argument. If it were, I would also argue that the much loved pastizzi are VERY unhealthy, especially for kids, and considering that Maltese children are some of the most obese children in Europe, using your argument, I would say - ban pastizzi! They are not necessary anyway! Ban fireworks - noise pollution! Not necessary! Ban having two or more cars for each family - air pollution!

I personally find pornography disgusting, but if a man or a woman is in his/her hotel room and wants to pay to watch pornography, then let them be! It's not like they can't have free access to it at home!

A rapist won't go to a hotel, pay for porn, and then go and rape someone. There would be too many records of his name on that night!

Louise Cassar

Jun 11th 2010, 14:17

Mr Zammit,

you'd do me (and most probably a whole bunch of other people!) to stop presenting your arguments in the majority of the people's name!

I for one, disagree wholeheartedly with what you think, so just stick to 'I' in your arguments, instead of 'we'.

Thanks

Vicky Camilleri

Jun 11th 2010, 12:52

Are you aware that there are other ways which can lead to a person ejaculating other than watching women being brutalized and degraded to the lowest means possible? A person who has a holistic approach to sexuality would be put off seeing someone degraded, not aroused.

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 11th 2010, 22:06

Ahem! Are you sure you are all right? What? You said you are a "staunch Christian ...who helps out every Sunday at (your) local church" and at the same time you also state that you will NEVER EVER EVER allow anyone to tell you what to do in the privacy of your room, and that you do not see anything wrong with porn. Am i missing something? Excuse me if my reading of your views is incorrect. Being a staunch Christian you must surely allow space for that faint, tiny, discreet voice deep inside you which often reminds you that we are weak, fallible and need to brought back into line. OR HAVE YOU BECOME DEAF? By the way, my reference to Hecate and her lair went straight past your commendable but rather literal capabilities of interpretation. God bless.

Louise Cassar

Jun 11th 2010, 12:11

I think this is the first time I smiled genuinely when I read the word extinction!!

charles caruana

Jun 11th 2010, 13:03

Yes Ms Cassar, you might even smile more genuinely at yourself when you look up the word irony in a dictionary!

Louise Cassar

Jun 11th 2010, 14:39

Oh, now that's ruined my day!
what doesn't evolve - goes into extinction - i think it's time to learn this once and for all!

P Galea

Jun 10th 2010, 11:17

@ Jesmond Mifsud
Quote from another articel in today's "timesofmalta.com" :

Quote: "Dr Vassallo's comments sparked a strong online reaction, prompting the creation of a Facebook group aimed at raising funds to buy the MP a one-way ticket to Iran.

More than 100 Facebook users joined the group yesterday, where they poked fun at Dr Vassallo and criticised his comments" unquote

And you come and write "Facebook comments not allowed
or else you'll be put down cos that's the way we roll "

Do you see now ?? Think before you write something.

Jesmond Mifsud

Jun 10th 2010, 12:01

Actually I was referring to the incident that happened 2 weeks ago when a 24 year-old was sentenced to 1 month prison just for writing a comment on Facebook.
Thanks for telling me about the Facebook group. I'll make sure to join it :)

Josef Laspina

Jun 10th 2010, 14:56

... yes but for those who say that an adult consumes porn which is free on the internet - well - are pay sites free ?? isnt that also against the law?? or does the law apply in some cases and in other cases not??

Russell Sammut

Jun 10th 2010, 11:21

Are You Serious LOL!

Zap Branagan

Jun 11th 2010, 08:09

Oh Joe, if you really think that pornography can make a person give up their studies or lose their interest in their job, then I think it's you that's really afraid of it.

The ones who shout the most about something are usually the ones who are the most afraid of it, and fear comes from ignorance.

As for MP Vassallo, he has shown how ignorant he is of life in Iran, where instead of pornography and prostitution, a lot of couples engage in a practice where they "marry" for 1-3 weeks and then get divorced.

And his comments on life in the UK are so far out of touch. Statistically, one is more likely to be murdered with a firearm in Malta than in the UK. Do the math folks, murder per 100,000 people.

Louise Cassar

Jun 10th 2010, 12:23

I'm surprised you can't see the answer to those questions yourself:

If porn/you walking naked and other things of the same sort are done in public, then it's not right, and in most countries illegal.

If you do it in your own house, or bedroom, or anywhere in private - then you can do whatever you want as long as other people are not hurt or offended by it.

Annette Camilleri

Jun 10th 2010, 12:29

Uhm, I don't think you're actually old and mature enough if you ask such questions!

Martin Cassar

Jun 10th 2010, 13:34


Sir,
If porn/you walking naked and other things of the same sort are done in public, then it's not right, and in most countries illegal.

Why is it illegal to walk out naked in USA streets?..isn't it my right? and after all who decides what's/legal and illegal?
Is my balcony private property or not?

Louise Cassar

Jun 10th 2010, 15:12

Oh, and the people who decide what is legal or illegal are the people who are elected by the country...doh!

Joe Fenech

Jun 9th 2010, 20:45

Very wise contribution, Mr Zammit Tabona.

Franco Farrugia

Jun 10th 2010, 05:10

Kenneth, the last time I saw, whatever a Party leader said or thought was law for the rest of that Party! Indeed, it remains to be seen what the next step will be. How about bringing back the Vigilanza cohort of not-so-old Labour?

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 18:52

"the UK is still in the Middle Ages compared to us"
you must be kidding.

"To say that pronography is not degrading or unhealthy to society is the limit."
Fair enough. But even more degrading is a big brother treating people like children who do not know what's good for them. That's what really worries me; forcing people not to watch it BY FORCE.

"...that is why they watch it in private."
They watch it in private for other reasons.

James Galea

Jun 9th 2010, 19:11

Well said MBorg.

Robert Agius

Jun 9th 2010, 21:08

Hear, hear, speaking from experience MBorg?

To say that pronography is not degrading or unhealthy to society is the limit. It is degrading and unhealthy, and how ! Anyone who makes use of it knows it, that is why they watch it in private.

Have you ever considered that they might watch it in private do so out of courtesy or because they are considerate and respect other beliefs unlike the self-righteous so called 'moral' people such as yourself?

Michael Briffa (Rotterdam)

Jun 9th 2010, 23:44

Yes i agree Mr.Calleja, this is why in the Netherlands prostitution is legalised and well controlled and i heared also that the women of the night as they are called even pay taxes from their earnings, in this Mikey Mouse country we tend to send them infront ot the judge pay a fine a slap on the hand and back on the street, what a laugh eh? the funny part about it is as my colleagues tells me in Holland, that its not the fact that it is illegal in Malta but it is because the authorities are making a bomb in fines, you know what,.... i think that have a strong point as i believe its true.

Joe Zammit

Jun 9th 2010, 17:22


Joe, the whole body of criminal law is all censorship. You can never eliminate it! Pornography smears you and me!

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 17:44

Joe, why are you saying "the whole body of criminal law is all censorship"? You said it several times now in these comments, and beneath other articles.

So, let's say, the law against murder or the law against theft is an act of censorship against the criminal? Since when is murder or theft an expression of views that needs censorship? I think this statement is ridiculous, and I also think that you know it. Either that, or else you're just confused.

A. Abela

Jun 10th 2010, 15:10

I think you're abusing sarcasm slightly. Just a bit.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 19:22

No I don't believe in absolute right to freedom of expression and of choice. Those are YOUR words.

I believe however in absolute freedom of SPEECH. Thawwadx il-hass mal-patata. If you're in doubt reread my comments.

And for your information, don't make any assumptions about my qualifications. First of all because they are irrelevant - nobody needs to teach me how to think. Secondly, you might be in for a surprise. It is because of people like you that I do not use my full name.

Oh dear, oh dear! :-)

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 10th 2010, 09:37

@ S Calleja
And pray, where in my contribution did i make any assumptions about your qualifications? I feel that i have been most civil in the way i have addressed you. As for the mixing of vegetables - hass and patata - i normally leave that to my culinary activities. "It is because of people like (me) that i do not use my full name". Have you perchance taken leave of your senses? Who do you take me for?

J Vella

Jun 9th 2010, 16:46

Pajjiz injornat konna u hekk nibqghu!

Edward Caruana Galizia

Jun 9th 2010, 17:05

Liberalism is the belief that equality and freedom are of utmost importance. For more info use google. There is too much about liberalism to explain it in two hundred words. I don't understand your comment actually. Was I too arrogant in my remarks? I apologize if so.

ftheuma

Jun 9th 2010, 20:22

The shallow sarcasm of your comment betrays a failed attempt at mockery. I would suggest that you actually go through the trouble of reading books on the matter and not ask or expect somebody to deliver the information on a silver platter.

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 10th 2010, 09:57

@ftheuma
Many thanks for reminding me about the existence of books; much appreciated - problem is which ONES should i peruse? Any further eye-openers on your part?

ftheuma

Jun 10th 2010, 19:52

I do not usually answer inane comments such as yours, but I will make an exception. From what I have read you do not really seem to have anything of substance to say, and crawl along these comments seeking to jeer and get a laugh - you think. Well, good luck. Good luck also with your study of liberalism, I hope that you have a shelf laden with hefty tomes ready to be read. Somehow I doubt it, I do not think that a genuine search for knowledge is your thing.

Josef Laspina

Jun 10th 2010, 14:51

... it is not your constitution - i wonder of which country that would be 'your' constitution'!!

J Pace

Jun 9th 2010, 17:00

I could kiss you right now but I am afraid Mr. Vassallo would try to close the Times of Malta website for homoerotic pornographic writings.

Marylu Alosia d'Agostino

Jun 9th 2010, 15:25

'The majority of Maltese and Gozitans are backing you in your defence of morality.'

as profusely witnessed on these boards . . . NOT!

Joseph Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 15:38

Joe you are getting to be somewhat of a nuisance. You keep repeating yourself. "Pornography destroys marriages and families. I don't know where you came up with that because what destroys families is wife abuse, adultery and a few other things. If you have never been married how can you be such an expert on marital affairs.
The main point here is that you and Dr Vassallo think that you have the right to peek into my bedroom anywhere, anytime. Hello Joe, everybody has a right to privacy and when the government decides to take that right away from me, the government becomes a dictatorship.

GF Cortini

Jun 9th 2010, 15:39

"The majority of Maltese and Gozitans are backing you in your defence of morality".

No they're not. All it takes is a cursory glance at the comments of this page to see the majority hasn't also lost its marbles.

I, for one, do not want my country to be associated with Dr Vassallo and his outrageous remarks which implictly condone rioting, religious intolerance, bigotry and ridiculous national stereotypes (the UK is, apparently, the place "where children kill and rape each other". Good to know).

Parliamentarians - whatever happened to working on real legislation which actually means something rather than these petty and condescending moral witch-hunts? And then they bemoan the fact that what they do in parliament isn't appreciated more...

Joe Zammit

Jun 9th 2010, 15:27


Mr Bugeja, the whole of our Criminal Law is censorship. So there will never come a time when censorship will be eliminated.

Mike F Abbot

Jun 9th 2010, 15:59

@Joe Zammit
no it's not - don't be silly

Albert Dalli

Jun 9th 2010, 14:25

We're not interested in your voting process. Even if this flouted voting is 200% in your favour, it doesn't and will not change a thing. Our constitution was formulated by OUR people and not by fools. We had the best brains and the best people to draft our constitution and it passed a referendum and several elections. We dont need foreigners to teach us anything about our rights and our duties. And we have the good the bad and the ugly in our country, as in other countries. Some fools left their mother country to hide themselves in some unknown island or country. perverts also hide themselves until such time as they may punce on the innocent victims be they boys or girls to seduce and corrupt them . And then these same people shout their big mouths out, when they hear that a priest has been reported for corrupting some child. How hypocrit can this Flynn be?

Mike F Abbot

Jun 9th 2010, 14:26

nice one!

Mike F Abbot

Jun 9th 2010, 15:55

@Albert Dalli
calm down - it's only democracy. At least, the voting part is. Got something against your own people having a say? Got something against the truth? oh, you don't like that do you. off you go, Iran is waiting for you.

A. Grech

Jun 9th 2010, 16:18

@Mr. Albert Dalli: i am maltese and am in favour of a referendum on whether Malta should have a secular State or maintain the Roman Catholic Apostolic Religion as the religion of the State. If not for anything else, it would be useful to see where the people stand. i checked the poll and was surprised to see so many in favour of a secular state, which made me believe that it couldn't be relied on. Mind you i am in favour of a secular state, no belief should be imposed and there should be freedom of religion, plus equal treatment to all persons irrispective of their creed. In my opinion it would be a good thing if in the next general election, whilst voting for a new government people are given the opportunity to vote in a referendum to decide on this matter too. I would like the authorities to take note and process this in a legitimate way. I know that many Maltese will argue against this, but how can we know of how many more are in favour? BTW this is not an attack on the Church and has nothing to do with porn.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 16:55

@ Albert Dalli

The best brains of today are not necessarily the best brains of the past. I believe the same argument would have been applicable 500 years ago in defence of the inquisition, but thankfully now we know better.

Martin Debono

Jun 9th 2010, 14:32

Well said.

Mario Bonnici

Jun 9th 2010, 13:39

@Edward Caruana Galizia
So are you saying that the PN is the liberal party in Malta?
Let me remind you what nationalist MP Edwin Vassallo said last week regarding the government's right to interfere in private lives. And the PN's stand regarding censorship and divorce?

Edward Caruana Galizia

Jun 9th 2010, 14:02

Put it this way. The PN, although it does have members of its party that are liberal, feels that the majority of the Maltese and Gozitan population are very conservative. Thrusting extreamly Liberal ideals onto such a conservative population would prove to be a mistake since it would come as a great culture shock to quite a few. Thus causing trouble within Maltese society and pain to those who have a lot of emotional attachment to certain ways of life. It would literally be like taking away their culture and giving them one they do not want. Sensitivity is needed in these cases.

The PN knows this, and knows that it needs to bring Liberalism into Malta carefully, so as to not cause chaos. I would not say they are Liberal, but there are those who support Liberal ideals and they are trying to get them introduced into Malta slowly. Although I do not support the tactics they have used so far.

Let us not forget that Liberalism is new in Maltese Politics and no party has ever needed to prove their stand on it since past elections have been about many other different things.

Edward Caruana Galizia

Jun 9th 2010, 14:17

It just corrured to me that I sound like I am talking on behalf of the PN. I am not. It is just my interpretation of what the PN does in relation to Liberal ideals in Malta. Sorry about that.

James Galea

Jun 9th 2010, 13:26

So Mr Gee
you would thing that watching pornografy would make you more free. Miskin.

Peter Gee

Jun 9th 2010, 13:49

READ THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE ARTICLE James! Where did I even mention that I watch pornography? On the other hand I do object to parliamenterians wasting their time on issues that are anachronistic and that fall within the Police Commissioner's remit, not theirs. To make matters worse they are procrastinating on legislating about more important and sensitive issues like a "Sex Offenders Register"

S Agius

Jun 9th 2010, 13:50

Watching porn would not make me more free, but having the ability to do so, certainly would

Marius Zulgis

Jun 9th 2010, 14:04

@James Galea
You're missing the point. Pornography does not make you free. Having the choice to watch it (or not watch it as the case may be) of your own free will does.

james Galea

Jun 9th 2010, 16:14

@Marius Zulgis
you know what made me free when i was raising two young kids? th fact that i knew that pornografy was not easily available for them from TV stations and book shops. that is what made me feel free.

Marius zulgis

Jun 9th 2010, 16:32

@James Galea
Once again you have got it wrong, but who knows? Maybe one day...
It's EDUCATION not DEPRIVATION which makes us free. You should try it some time.

James galea

Jun 9th 2010, 17:43

Marius zulgis
So if I understand you right you are saying that the country should legislate porn and then i have to teach my kids not to watch it. Take it in your mind what is bad is bad and yes the country has to regulate what its citecens do cause in the end these liberalites are draining the taxpayer money through mistakes done in the bedrooms like single parents and lots of others social services. And if you think that telling some to try to get educated is education in itself I do not think you are much of an educated person mr. zugis

Josef Laspina

Jun 9th 2010, 13:13

It is terrible that adult people truly think that adult material doesnt effect the behaviour of adults!! - and is internet porn not accessible to kids? wouldnt that also be a loop hole in the law?

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 13:20

There are some people commenting over here who have such open minds about rights and freedoms that their brains are falling out.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 14:17

@ Andrew Farrugia. I find that comment rather offensive, which by your own previous argument you should not have said it. However since I believe in true freedom of speech, so I will still defend you right to say it.

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 15:17

@ S. Calleja.
My previous statement was intended as an eye-opener, a generous piece of well-meaning advice, so it can hardly qualify as being offensive. Ergo, your defence of my freedom of expression, though much appreciated, is quite unnecessary.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 16:10

@ Andrew Farrugia. And who are you to decide what is offensive to me and what isn't? The mistake that people who think like you make is that they believe that the view of the world of others is the same as theirs. There is no such right as the right not to get offended, because what offends me does not offend you and vice-versa. Maybe it's got to do with upbringing, values, genetics, religion, etc. Shall we now shut our mouths and not say anything, lest anybody gets offended with what we say? No. Speak up, irrespective of whether it can offend or not. THAT is freedom of speech.

J Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 14:02

Oh yes we have such a right. There is a thing called morality which all citizens are to abide by it. I dont see any naked persons roaming our streets. WHy? Are they ashamed? off course they are. We are supposed to be a civilised people and not ta' wara l-muntanji. We are not savages with daggers in our mouths and spears in our hands. Or are we? We know that our youngsters today are wearing trousers which are showing off their wonderful beautiful bottoms. Such trousers are falling down their knees whenever they walk. And our girls are showing off their knavels and sometimes even their bottoms as well. Are we living in a civilised country or are we living in one whole jungle?

wally vella-zarb

Jun 9th 2010, 16:22

@ J Farrugia.

No, you do NOT have the right to impose your views on others. You DO have the right to turn away and avert your eyes if you wish; others citizens DO have an EQUAL right to look at what pleases them. It is the simple principle of 'freedom of choice', which even you should find no difficulty in understanding.

Incidentally, people wear clothes as a protection from the elements and as adornment. Only people who have been indocrinated from birth with a guilt complex find anything offensive in the nude human figure. An aesthetically well proportioned human form is a joy to behold and has been mimicked in art since before the Greek and Roman eras. It is the ultimate challenge for an artist.

ftheuma

Jun 9th 2010, 19:07


Who is 'we' if I may ask? Are you a leader of some group or organization that subscribes to your fatuous and inane ideas? If not, why don't you just say 'I' or perhaps you use the royal plural?

a borg

Jun 9th 2010, 12:55

ban fast foods, they are a direct cause of coronoary hear disease and death,
ban fuel-based engines, they cause squamous cell carcinoma lung cancer, and death
ban alochol totally, no good comes out of it
...

can't we for once put sodding old and unfounded principals of a 'public morality' aside for once? we're individuals, we all have our own conscience and the public shouldn't intrude with that. adults can make their own choices. believe you me sir, alot more harm has been caused by religion and 'public morality' than porn or cutting edge literature.

Ramon Casha

Jun 9th 2010, 13:08

Take a quick look at the comments in this article and you'll see where "the majority of Maltese and Gozitans" stand on this issue.

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 9th 2010, 12:40

"next in line would be nudist colonies"

Wait a few more years (and maybe even less) and you'll see how such a minority will soon appear ... and then we will also have to debate on whether to allow nudist colonies or not ... some will argue in the name of freedom of expression and others will argue in the name of morality. Fact is that many who comment here forget that they live in a society based on rules that are meant for the co-existence of thousands of people together.

ftheuma

Jun 9th 2010, 19:09


What's wrong with nudism anyway?

Nick Falzon

Jun 11th 2010, 10:27

I think I've woken up in Iran or Zimbabwe.

A 21st century country in the EU it ain't.

Joe Zammit

Jun 9th 2010, 12:18

So you hate the PL!

Mario Bonnici

Jun 9th 2010, 13:16

@Joe Zammit
I want him out for the good of the party.
I'm disgusted by his comments about single mothers. Assocating them with the rise in criminality! Does Mr Vassallo know about the sacrifices many single mothers make in order to give their children the best education and still achieve in life?
The Labour Party has to dissociate itself from similar comments.

J Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 11:16

J Galea remember the mlp slogan Hadd mhu ghar-rimi. I applaud Dr Vassallo for his convictions.

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 10:53

Well done Mr Cilia Debono for clarifying the issues for some of the more wayward minds. It appears as if common sense and balance are unknown in this "in-yer-face" age of self-indulgence.

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 9th 2010, 12:49

agree

Josette Borg

Jun 9th 2010, 12:07

You're right A Abdulkarim - it is very insensitive.

J Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 11:20

Iva ejja nitghallmu kif nirrejpjaw lill-uliedna u lin-nisa ta madwarna. Qed nosserva kemm hawn imhuh li jahsbu li huma progressivi u moderni imma fl-istess hin qed juruna kemm huma perversi iktar mill-ftit sacerdoti li jabbuzaw mit-tfal. Qed juruna li l-Maltin saru perversi daqs jekk mhux iktar mit-taljani li hlief pornografija oxxena u hmieg fuq it-tv taghhom ma tarax. Hekk irriduhom lit-tfal taghna, jaraw il-perversjoni u pornografija minn fuq l-internet? U mbaghad inwerzqu jekk xi hadd minn uliedna jinqabad fin-nassa tal-perversjoni. Viva l-pornografija halli nkunu l-aghar pajjiz fid-dinja li ma nistghux naraw mara li ma nnezzawhiex b'ghajnejna. U mbaghad noqoghdu nghajjru lill-kattolici bir-religjon taghhom u bil-qaddisin taghhom. Taparsi niccajtaw. X'cajt dak li niktbu fuq l-internet biex noqtlu lil Papa! U lill-peerversi rridu naghmluhom l-eroj ta' uliedna. Uliedna stess ghad iridu jisthuna, ghax skond iz-zokk il-fergha.

JFarrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 13:55

@JFarrugia:

So catholic priests who rape young children are less perverse than people who watch sex acts carried out by 2 consenting adults (who are getting paid handsomely for it). Way to go.

J Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 11:31

Yes everyone is free to decide what they want without any shackles. This is a free country. No this is a democratic country not a free for all. Malta is not an anarchist state. We are free to watch pornography, we are free to ridicule our catholic heritage. Yes we are free. We are also free to boycott all those perverts who trespass the thin white line of civic sense. We are free to boycott those hotels which allow such trash and perverts to used these hotels for their own egoistic pleasures. Those who want to abuse children and women. Yes we are free like they are to boycott all those whose business is to make money out of pornography and beastliness. Yes we have a powerful sword: the sword of the BOYCOTT. We have to pay a price to stand up to our principles, but we will stand up for such sane principles.

Victor Laiviera

Jun 9th 2010, 10:19

Strange how Mr Caruana Galizia is upset when one "Vassallo" says something but not when another "Vassallo" says roughly the same thing.

Edward Caruana Galizia

Jun 9th 2010, 10:52

I am upset either way. That is why I don't live in Malta anymore.

Matt Bonanno

Jun 9th 2010, 12:30

I get what you're saying Mr. Laiviera, but the thing is that one would expect this from the Nationalists, but not from the supposedly progressive party

Jane Galea

Jun 9th 2010, 10:40

JOe VELLa Good point Joe. What would they say if they saw their wife or children in a porn movie?

George Francalanza

Jun 9th 2010, 10:56

Reasonable people won't let a family matter affect their judgment on a decision that covers the whole nation.
If it's legal it's legal. If a family member is involved in porn then stopping the movie from appearing in Malta won't stop if from appearing on the internet and abroad(and most probably in Malta through illegal methods).

Joseph Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 10:08

It is no wonder that we are experiencing so many marriage problems and breakdowns nowadays. Pornography breeds filth in our minds and soul. It is downright downgrading for anybody to go in favour of this filth under the pretext of upholding the principle of no censorship.
In Dr Vassallo, I can see an upright and righteous politician who without fear stood four square by his principles. Let all men of goodwill, whether red or blue, support this man against this filth. Let us see who are those to stand by him in parliament.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 10:43

You don't get the idea behind freedom of speech do you?

Freedom of speech also means suggesting to people what they should do, and as long as it remains just words, you have the right to say it. Dr Vassallo has every right to voice his opinion. I also have the right to tell him to shut up. He then has the right to ignore me and continue voicing his opinion.

So, freedom of speech also includes the freedom to talk against freedom of speech. It looks paradoxical, but it ain't.

A Chircop

Jun 9th 2010, 11:24

Dr Vassallo has the right to voice his opinion like everyone else. But that is different from barring other people from enjoying what *they* think is ok for them. If something does not directly and clearly harm someone else, there is no reason to interfere with that activity.

People working in porn do it out of their own free will and get paid for it. Consumers enjoy pornography out of their own free will, for whatever personal reasons which are none of our business. If you don't enjoy it, no one forces it on you.

And let's not get into silly moral arguments and myths, such as that 'pornography erodes the moral fibre of a nation'. On the contrary, it's oppressive taboos and prohibition that create a morbid, sordid underbelly of society.
Victorian England was very puritanical, but underneath the prim and proper facade was an underworld of adult and child prostitution, slavery, child abuse and all sorts of perversions.

As a comparison, religious fanaticism has harmed far more people than any pornography ever will (read any history book and see for yourself), so with that logic, we should be banning religion instead!

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 10:34

I fail to see how this is related to the topic at hand: pornography.

I also fail to see how "Jesus is not happy to see 25-30 % of Christian born babies". If I were Jesus, I would be equally happy to see babies being born, within or outside of wedlock, and whether they are Christian or not.

You know, if God judged us the same way some people here pass judgements as if they were gods themselves, then God's no better than the devil, and I'd rather go to hell. I honestly think many people have got it all wrong when it comes to religion and spirituality, including the Church itself. They focus on outside behaviour, and give little importance to what's truly in people's hearts, their fears, their desires, their dreams, their suffering.

I honestly think faith in Malta needs to mature, to grow up. From the way some people argue, I can see that their faiths have little developed from the time they recited prayers by heart at doctrine lessons when they were 10 years old.

ftheuma

Jun 9th 2010, 20:30

The religious drivel that keeps coming out hard and fast is mind boggling. With what arrogance can one proclaim to know what Christ is happy or not about. Where did Christ express his dissatisfaction about children (also creatures of god if there is one) born out of wedlock?

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 9th 2010, 10:36

Because he represents the opinion of many Maltese that share his same values!! Just because you are with PL it does not mean that you do not have any values. I for one agree with the views of this MP. If showing such movies is illegal then why isn't any action being taken? What determines which law we should abide to and which not?

Wayne Hewitt

Jun 9th 2010, 11:59

AN never suggested that we should ban porn from hotel rooms. Thallatx il-hass mal-... gass

Andreas Reiff

Jun 9th 2010, 09:54

Thing is, that practising these is illegal, but showing them on TV is not. Sex on TV is prohibited, violence is not. If the Vassallos of this country get their will, then I surely hope they will not stop here but ban all violent scenes from TV as well. Gaming and betting is ruining souls and relationships also, so ban all game shows! Please take away free will, because you know better! Tell us what to do!

Joseph Aquilina

Jun 9th 2010, 10:44

Here in Malta you have the right to practice (or not) any religion you want. However it is important to keep in mind that you live in a society. The constitution of this country clearly states that Malta is a Catholic nation. So how can we on one side go and state that Malta is Catholic (in the constitution) and on the other side allow actions that go against the core-values of this religion to take place? Either change the constitution or else the government should take action. This is not religion, this is common sense.

Frank Grech

Jun 9th 2010, 11:20

REMOVE IT FROM THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!
WE WANT SECULARISATION!!!!!!!

G. Vella

Jun 9th 2010, 09:09

Prosit ghal minn ghandu l-kuragg jghid dak li hu tajjeb ghas-socjeta' huwa tajjeb u dak li hu hazin hu hazin. Irridu izjed nies bhal dawn.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 10:18

@ G.Vella. Do you really need somebody else to tell you what is good for your and what is bad? Few people realize in fact that their leaders are in no better position than themselves to make decisions about their lives. I advice you to take control of your life and stop relying on others to make important decisions regarding your freedom. Good luck.

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 08:54

Lest i be accused of offensive use of terminology: i apologise for a spelling error; i was referring to TYKES and not dykes.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 09:19

I can never understand the argument about how sex can be an act of love.

An act of love is dying for somebody else, doing sacrifices for your family, working hard to ensure there's food on the table for everybody, giving up something for the benefit of somebody else. I cannot see how sex, whether within or outside marriage, fits into this picture.

When you're married, like I am, sex is the last thing on your mind when it comes to acts of love towards your partner.

George Francalanza

Jun 9th 2010, 10:48

If you don't like it, don't watch it. Simple.
At least have the decency to allow people the freedom of choice though.

PM Camilleri

Jun 9th 2010, 09:06

But it is a problem. For everyone. And it affects everyone. Adults and indirectly, children. Shame on those hoteliers for allowing access to such porn channels.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 10:22

Can you please expand on "And it affects everyone."?

Some countries do apply censorship in fact, but they are in a much worse position than the more developed countries, where moral responsibilities lie with the individual rather than on the collective. This contradicts your argument head on.

Louise Cassar

Jun 9th 2010, 11:52

Human trafficking is illegal - porno - unless there are minors involved, is not. and should not (even though I think it's disgusting, but whoever wants to pay to watch it, let him/her be)

Adrian Archer

Jun 9th 2010, 11:56

Interesting....perhaps hotels are giving out porn services just for the fun of it...hotels around the world give that service because there is a huge demand for it and hotels make loads of money from it...whether we like it or not. After all hotels are businesses aiming to make money.

Although cigarettes are definitely not healthy, shops sell it....why?...because they earn money and there is demand. Now cigarettes may be more legal than porn...but perhaps you may agree that cigarettes are definitely more harmful!

Joe E Galea

Jun 9th 2010, 10:47

Dear Mr. E. Borg,
I am Labour leaning as you might be but I didn't change my opinion because someone who happens to be on the PL side is airing his hideous talibanistic ideas. There are far more serious issues on which the PL should be judged and these issues are very positive for the PL. I am very sure that his colleagues didn't agree with him. What you can do is just not vote this MP again. Furthermore, this is the personal opinion of the MP and not the PL's party line. This backbencher most probably wants to be heard as he was tired to be in the shadow, and the first time he opened his mouth he gaffed big time. I suggest he changes party and crosses over to the PN side. They are very talibanistic and undemocratic in their way of doing.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 10:53

Not really comparable is it? Tobacco is killing people. Sex is, well, creating them :-)

Andrew Farrugia

Jun 9th 2010, 09:14

Freedom of speech does NOT give you the right to offend others and their beliefs. Your right to swing an umbrella on the pavement stops as soon as the tip of your umbrella comes close to my nose.

S. Calleja

Jun 9th 2010, 11:15

@ Andrew Farrugia. Indeed it does, since there's no such thing as the right not to get offended. People get offended for a variety of reasons, and if we were to remove everything that could offend someone we'd have no TV, no adverts, no Internet, no beaches, etc.

KSciberras

Jun 9th 2010, 09:39

Don't forget about the RED light districts :)

michael Saliba

Jun 9th 2010, 11:48

Tqazzist naqra l-kummenti ta' hafna mill kitba f' dawn il blocks. Well done, Dr vassallo, stand up for what you beleive in. I invite everyone to take a look at www.borginnadur.com.

arpa anthony

Jun 9th 2010, 12:16

Sbieh jew koroh dawn l-affarijiet , certament li Malta u Maltin hemm bzonn li nimxu maz zmienijiet tal lum, jekk ahna ma irridux li nibqaw isolati u maqtuwijn ghalina.........Ghax ghallura ma nehhux internet ukoll....u nejxu hajja ta 30 sena ilu minajr kumnikazjoni ma pajjizi ohra ukoll.
IL-PROVERBJU MALTI JAJD....MIN JITKAZA JAQA FIL KAZA............


ftheuma

Jun 9th 2010, 18:57

@michael saliba

'Tqazzist naqra l-kummenti ta' hafna mill kitba f' dawn il blocks.' Well that is the price you have to pay to live in a free society where freedom of thought and expression are deemed inalienable rights. It seems that you, like the MP, yearn for the totalitarian, repressive, backward criminal practices of a verminous theocratic regime. This episode is very telling, the point is not about if pornography is right or wrong, but if we are going to let reactionary elements like MP Vassallo take us all the way back to the dark ages. He has had his 15 minutes of fame, now I hope that he will never be elected to parliament again.

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