Shot Maltese activist ‘sent by Hamas’ – ambassador
Activists like Bianca Zammit were being used by Hamas to plant bombs at disputed borders, according to Israeli Ambassador to Malta Gideon Meir.
“I’m sorry about what happened but she was sent by the Hamas and the International Solidarity Movement to the border,” the Rome-based ambassador tells Herman Grech in an interview.
Ms Zammit was shot by Israeli soldiers last week when she was protesting at the Gaza border, threatening a diplomatic incident.
The ambassador insists that the International Solidarity Movement with whom Ms Zammit is affiliated is in cahoots with Hamas, the resistance movement which he claims is using youngster as cover to plant bombs at the Israeli border.
He urges Maltese parents to bar their children from going to combat zones, even if they believe they are fighting for a just cause.
“You don’t send your people to places like Afghanistan. You want to be a pro Palestinian (campaigner)? Fine. Do it from Valletta or do it from Gaza city...”
Asked to react to a Maltese government statement, which was swift to condemn the shooting of Ms Zammit, Mr Meir said he expected western governments to also be sensitive to Israelis who are being killed by Palestinians
The ambassador also speaks about the prospect of peace in the Middle East, and dismisses claims that a right-wing Israeli government was incapable of hammering out a deal with the Palestinians.
Watch excerpts of the interview by clicking on the link above. Read the entire interview in today’s edition of The Sunday Times.
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Martin chetcuti
May 4th 2010, 22:39
Martin Cassar you are stuck in thousands years ago of history.The old testament bible is full of tales and legends. Trying to justify this conflict by the stories of what happened thousands of years ago is futile. What is paramount is the present and future of those suffering and I think most of us agree that the ones most to suffer are the Palestine citizens they are at a loss Israelis have EVERYTHING you can imagine in a modern state., so palestinians pro Hamas should wake up and realise once and for all that by continue thinking that they might obtain something by terrorism is a waste of time against such a mighty state. Palestinians should abandon there warmongering parties and learn more how to NEGOTIATE.
R Muscat
May 4th 2010, 22:33
I dislike Hamas and it's policies, therefore I find it disgusting that the ambassador should manipulate the truth, there is no excuse for this crime against a woman who was protesting peacefully.
For a person who is representing a people who was persecuted the ambassador should know better.
Dr Gonzi should cancel his planned trip tp Israel as a sign of solidarity with the act of agression against a Maltese national.
John Ungaro
May 4th 2010, 18:41
My suggestions to all those who support Hamas and condemn Israel outright: visit Israel, go to the Arab part of Jerusalem, read what Hamas has to say about war and the destruction of the Jewish state, travel to any Arab city within the Gaza district, follow the Hamas sponsored TV and internet media, then form an opinion regarding whether Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Are most comments hostile to Israel the result of deeply embedded antisemitism?
Joseph A Borg
May 4th 2010, 22:36
My advice to you is to go and read the history books on what happened 60 years ago when a ghetto got walled up and the residents became undesirables without any rights.
You're ignoring the broad brush of history
Martin Cassar
May 4th 2010, 17:43
martin chetcuti
You asked, am I pro Palestinian or pro Hamas?
Well, I am pro peace, justice and human being (of all races, color, sizes, religion) right to live a decent life. With no reservation I strongly condemn any type of terrorism, let it be of Hitler’s Holocausts, USA nuclear bombs the killed innocents Japanese civilians or the USA’ (YESTERDAY’S ALLAY) Osama Bin laden.
On same line I do not accept a Jew-state based on god-Jew contract of a promised land.
To verify the Zionists’ claims of such land, in fact I couldn’t get a copy of this contract from MEPA I am afraid, so I had to lokk it up in the Bible.
In the Bible I came across: 1 Samuel 15:3
‘Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'’
This is exactly what Israel has been doing for six decades. In my opinion, both Israel and their god should be arrested and go for international court and trialed for war crimes and holding seeds of terrorism.
martin chetcuti
May 4th 2010, 16:01
Palestinians should never be helped for the reason that they elate when there are crimes towards the west they voted for Hamas to be there leaders there is simply no hope., these people never learn instead of trying to find some sort of compromise with the mighty state of Israeli they opted to continue there suicidal attacks by sticks and stones poor them. I feel very sorry for the true heroes of this conflict that is those palestinians which are Anti Hamas. Martin Luther King fought for the rights of Afro Americans with diplomacy and altough at that time it was unheard of a black will same rights as the white it worked gradually to the extent that now there is also a black US President.
Christopher Grech
May 4th 2010, 14:56
Let us face it, Israeli ambassadors are not honest, and are paid to send in mixed messages.
This blog is to honour Bianca Zammit, and her tenacity to protest, with what is wrong with socitey today. If we had more of her fight for justice, the world, would be in a better place.
The right to own land by Palestinians is being trampled on for decades now. See this map of counterfeit Israel for proof.
http://100777.com/node/1873
You might say, why do I write counterfeit Israel? Because most people that live there DO NOT stem from the tribes of Israel!
Quoting from their own sources (Jewish almanac), the Ashenazis are some 85% of the population, and do not stem from neither Shem, nor Abraham or Jacob/israel.
If some 20 Palestinians get killed, it would not get much news, but now since Bianca is not with us, perhaps some diplomatic pressure may be put on bulldozing tactics by the Israelis.
They reprimand soldiers for shooting, but secretly encourage it.
It is what is in their hearts (intentions) that count, not their words.
Alexander Morana
May 4th 2010, 14:36
Why all this drivel and debate about a conflict which Malta has no interest whatsoever. There is no gain at all even if we try as much as we are doing of staying neutral, instead of taking sides. Malta has no clout in the region, full stop.
The Middle East has and will always be the graveyard of Empires, politicians and demigods who tried to influence or shape the destiny of the peoples who inhabit those lands.
For more reading if you are all so interested in the Middle East read the book “A clash of civilizations” by Robert Frisk.
Dr Francis Saliba
May 4th 2010, 14:16
Bianca Zammit may be congratulated for her committment to her ideal and also for her lucky escape when that bullet did not strike a few centimetres lower in the hollow of her knee that could very well have incapacitated for her life without bringing the Israeli-Arab conflict any nearer to a solution. These problems are best left in the hands of professional diplomats. Similar meddlesome private initiatives by Maltese nationals could only jeopardise Malta's usefulness as a possible intermediary in any future peace initiative
Martin Cassar
May 4th 2010, 13:01
1597, Cremona, Pavia & Lodi
1614, Frankfurt
1615, Worms
1619, Kiev
1649, Ukraine
1654, Little Russia (Ukraine)
1656, Lithuania
1669, Oran (North Africa)
1670, Vienna
1712, Sandomir
1727, Russia
1738, Wuerttemburg
1740, Little Russia (Ukraine)
1744, Bohemia
1744, Livonia
1745, Moravia
1753, Kovad (Lithuania)
1761, Bordeaux
1772, Jews deported to the Pale of Settlement (Russia)
1775, Warsaw
1789, Alsace
1804, Russian villages
1808, Russian villages and countrysides
1815, Lubeck & Bremen
1815, Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria
1820, Bremes
1843, Russian border with Austria & Prussia
1862, Tennessee (USA), by military order of General Grant
1866, Galatz, Romania
1919, Bavaria (foreign born Jews)
1938-45, Axis-Nazi controlled lands
1948, Arab countries.
Could this sort of actions by the Jews be the reason they have been run out of every country on earth, except the United States, and there is not much doubt soon America TAX PAYERS will realize just how much the Jews despise and loath them; and they too will rise up and drive them out.
ray sacco
May 5th 2010, 14:17
@martin cassar:
it's too late for the americans! their country has been run by the jews for some time now. they pull the strings in the white house. president after president have been weak with israel. take mr. obama, who said he would open dialogue with iran, but once he came to power, he continued with the same strategy of sanctions. and in the latest spat, when israel ridiculed the obama administration by announcing more settlements on the eve of planned peace talks...............after all the bla bla bla............just silence from washington and the settlements are still being constructed!
Martin Cassar
May 4th 2010, 12:59
The no hostile Arabs, Muslim and Jew relation is the longest yet least discussed after 1948. (why?-the answer is the Zionist dream of Jew-wish state on others land, )
Expulsions of Jews from host districts, cities and countries:
554, Diocese of Clement (France)
561, Diocese of Uzes (France)
612, Visigoth Spain
642, Visigoth Empire
855, Italy
876, Sens
1012, Mainz
1181, France
1290, England
1306, France
1348, Switzerland
1349, Heilbronn (Germany)
1349, Hungary
1388, Strasbourg
1394, Germany
1394, France
1422, Austria
1424, Fribourg & Zurich
1426, Cologne
1432, Savory
1438, Mainz
1439, Augsburg
1446, Bavaria
1453, Franconia
1453, Breslau
1454, Wurzburg
1485, Vincenza (Italy)
1492, Spain
1495, Lithuania
1497, Portugal
1499, Germany
1514, Strasbourg
1519, Regensburg
1540, Naples
1542, Bohemia
1550, Genoa
1551, Bavaria
1555, Pesaro
1559, Austria
1561, Prague
1567, Wurzburg, Genoese Republic
1569, Papal States
1571, Brandenburg
1582, Netherlands
1593, Brandenburg, Austria
Rosalind Dougall
May 4th 2010, 12:17
He drones about Hammas brainwashing activists to act out their terrorist schemes, and yet all he does is try to brainwash the people listening to his words into being Pro-israeli. Not a single question asked regarding Bianca or the actual circumstance of her shooting was answered. Grow some guts and stop beating around the bush - admit it was wrong, and apologise and start working towards a resolution.
victoria bugeja
May 4th 2010, 12:01
how can u agree to the words this clown full of arrogance is stating. How can u maltese leave a person like Meir insult u like this?? He is saying that Zammit was helping Hamas, if so how does he know that and how sure he seems about it?? Do u believe that israel controls everything in this region obviously with the help of her big friend America... Were is the support for Palestinian people??
Bianca Zammit was only there to defend and help those who are weak, those to whom Israel steal their land, their belongings and even their lives. what if Palestine did the same thing Israel is doing?? we dont want REVENGE we just want peace and 2 nation solutions where finally palestine chidren especially can start having a normal life.
This is a video which gives good example, people Israelites and Palestinains Hamas and Fatah unite against the construction of the wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNvbcLccElo&feature=player_embedded
Alex Ellul
May 4th 2010, 14:34
since the construction of the wall, there have been zero kamikaze attacks on Israelites. Thus saving the lives of people, both Jews and Palestians including the potential kamikaze boy, brainwashed by Hamas and its hard-line Islamic clerics. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Israel built the wall not to keep its inhabitants locked in, (as in Berlin wall, built by the Communists) but to keep the kamikazes out.
Meanwhile let me repeat, unless extremism is shedded from everyones heart and politics, there will be no peace.
Let me quote what an young Isareli girl commented: If the Arabs lay down their arms there will be no more war. If the Jews unilaterally lay down their arms, there will be no more Israel. Get it?
andrew farrugia
May 4th 2010, 14:56
Yeah and the moon is made of green cheese. Get over it, this was another staged propaganda coup by people who are hell-bent to eliminate Israel.
Joe Zammit
May 4th 2010, 11:39
At that moment which was NOT critical, Bianca was by right in her place. She was on the farm land belonging to the farmers who were protesting because they had been UNJUSTLY evicted from their fields. The fields, where Bianca Zammit was filming, belonged and still belong BY RIGHT to the farmers. The Israeli government itself has condemned, not Bianca, but the soldiers who shot.
J. Borg
May 4th 2010, 11:13
Buffer zone created on whose soil?
Who is being occupied?
Where did most civilians die?
Who is the one breaking the MOST UN resolutions in the world?
Who aimed specifically at Bianca Zammit and shot her?
Christian Sciberras
May 4th 2010, 11:23
Exactly, ad this question to the list:
Where was Bianca staying at that critical moment?
Henri Calleja
May 4th 2010, 12:02
She was standing in a field with a camera filming - evident for everyone to see, take aim, and shoot. I am sure the soldier must be proud of targeting such a "dangerous" individual engaging in such a "dangerous" activity with such a "dangerous" camera. Must have been a difficult shot to make for the Soldier, taking aim, shoot and hit an unarmed woman in the middle of a field in daylight.
Joe Zammit
May 4th 2010, 10:46
Par. 2306 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "Those who renounce violence and bloodshed and, in order to safeguard human rights, make use of those means of defence available to the weakest, bear witness to evangelical charity, provided they do so without harming the rights and obligations of other men and societies. They bear legitimate witness to the gravity of the physical and moral risks of recourse to violence, with all its destruction and death."
Bianca Zammit went to Gaza on purpose to help those in need according to the spirit of the Gospel. She has been, is and will always be against violence. Violence is condemned by God in his Fifth Commandment.
At the same time following Christ, Bianca immediately and lovingly has forgiven the one who had shot her.
B. Cachia
May 4th 2010, 22:10
Well, if she is and always will be against violence then I would imagine that she strongly opposes what Hamas stands for. Has she at least sought to disassociate herself from a movement that is committed to the destruction of Israel, that deliberately fires rockets on civilians in violation of international law and that has committed unspeakable atrocities against its own countrymen whom it suspects of supporting Fatah?
Joe Zammit
May 4th 2010, 10:32
The farmers in general and Bianca Zammit in particular had every right to be there. The Israeli soldiers had NO right to shoot. The land where the protesters were is farm land which belongs by right to the Palestinians who were protesting. Bianca was just shooting the film. Bianca had every right to be there. The Israeli government itself condemned the shooting and said that the farmers' protest was legitimate.
Joe Zammit
May 4th 2010, 10:20
The place where Bianca and the protesters were is NOT a combat zone. It is simply a farm land. They were on the fields that belong to the Palestinians who were protesting. The Israel government itself condemned the shooting!
J Fenech
May 4th 2010, 09:59
Mr. Calleja,
Dont insinuate that I approve of the 'explicit corruption and daylight robbery'. I dont. And when the time to have children of my own comes, I make it a point that they dont stick their noses where it does not belong. There's more important stuff closer to home they should be concerned about.
ray sacco
May 3rd 2010, 21:28
terrorism was born in the so called holy land! and it was the jews who created it against the british! and the jewish leaders who led that terrorism campaign, today are considered as heroes of the state of israel! so don't go thinking that arafat's p.l.o. were the ones who originated terrorism! they were just repeating the techniques which the jews used to convince the british empire to give them the land on which they built israel. and now that they have the state they wanted, they want more and altered to another kind of terrorism, using advanced weaponry to suppress a whole population! shame on israel!
Robert Callus
May 3rd 2010, 18:02
Was Rachel Corrie sent by Hamas too Mr Meir? Why did the bulldozer driver crush her? If he thought she had bombs, it would have been more reasonable to move another way than approach her, wouldn't it? Don't you consider that he wanted to kill her? Do you think HE is a terrorist Mr Meir?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErEK8pTFT1k&feature=related
Joe Zammit
May 4th 2010, 10:56
The Israeli ambassador's statement that Bianca Zammit had been sent by Hamas is just a lie. If it were so, he would have given proofs. But no proofs were forthcoming!
Bianca forms part of the International Solidarity Movement which caters for the rights of Palestinians and for peace between the Palestinians and Israelis. Many Israelis as well are in favour of peace with the Palestinians and showed solidarity with Bianca.
Hamas is only an excuse on the ambassador's lips. He had no reason to give for the shooting. The Israeli government itself condemned the shooting.
Samir Abou-Hussein
May 3rd 2010, 15:42
This embassodor insisting to use unpolite statments to ward the freedom supporters! Hamas as far as every body knows, they do not occupy Isreal land or any other land! they are defending with all other Palestinian factions their people rights of getting freedom for their country! as Malta(before) or any other oocupied country seeking freedom! Is that difficult to be understood by the embassodor brillant mind or the ones who support him! Why this embassodor did not mention even once that they are the only occupying criminal force in this time where there is an increase of awareness of human rights! these criminal zionists think by persistent big lies they can counterfeit the world! the time will come, the right will return back to the right owners! this embassodor should remember that the zionists soliders are occuping criminal forces! he should remember that in Gaza , there is about one and half million who because of this criminal ziointinst occupying forces, are under almost complete seize since more than three years now! this embassodor should remeber, the time came to stop these disgusting lies!this embassodor described Bianca camera as a bomb! for the zioinists any fact transmission tool is abomb!
SMifsud
May 3rd 2010, 15:10
The Israeli Army headed by Ariel Sharon (then prime minister) helped with resources the Christian Party of Lebanon. Elie Houbeika chief of Christian Party of Lebanon had one intention : ousting palestinians by use of force from western beirut and southern lebanon. Hence what happened in Sabra and Chatila in 1982. This speaks for itself.... with some logic of course!
E. Carabott
May 3rd 2010, 13:55
There are two types of actions Palestinians can take to take back their land and stop Israel's advance. Its Either Peaceful protest or hostile actions. Some people there think only hostile action works, others are still giving the peaceful protest a try. Some people here are insisting we should not get involved. This will surely weaken the effect of peaceful protests.After all some here defended the soldier who shot Bianca as he had no way to know the woman was Maltese as if shooting an unarmed Palestinian is okay. Surely these same people will not cause an uproar whenever Israel will shoot unarmed Palestinians. As peaceful protests become less effective what do you think will happen? People who suggest only violence works will get more support. Those people who suggest not to support Palestine due to a faction that promotes violence are infact the ones pushing peaceful people to join that Faction! There is only one way terrorists will loose power and thats by ensuring that Peaceful protests generate a result. If you really want Palestinians stop attacking Israel you really should be enraged that unarmed protesters are shot and not siding against the peaceful protesters.
Sean Grima
May 3rd 2010, 12:28
All blabbering - Bianca Zammit was not planting bombs at disputed borders. I believe the Maltese government should call in this ambassador and reprimand him.
j. cassar
May 3rd 2010, 12:11
We should by the Israeli ambassodor a one way ticket, send him back to Israel never to return. Malta should not have any diplomatic relations with countries that support state terrorism and shoot at our citizens.
paul xuereb
May 3rd 2010, 11:30
What a pity the Ambassador forgot to comment on the stock of nuclear weapons Israel has long had and always refuses to acknowledge.
Paul A Vella
May 3rd 2010, 11:19
What this ambassador is stating is a very serious offence, was Ms. Zammit found to be in possession of armaments, bombs or any other weapons other than the Palestinian scarf?
Does protesting against the Israeli government give the right to their militia to shoot the people? Thank goodness we are not bordering these countries, thank goodness we have the Mediterranean Sea between out island and their territories otherwise we would also be involved in their so called 'Holy Wars'. What this ambassador is asking in protesting in Valletta or even Gaza is ridiculous, what good does that do when these protests and any others taking place in other countries are censored by the Israeli goverment and footage of these are carefully scrutinised in order to identify each and every person there.
Alex Ellul
May 3rd 2010, 10:41
When the twin towers were blown up, Palestinians went out into their streets celebrating that horrendous act. No Palestinian authority admonished them, thus assuming that their celebration was condoned, if not approved. It was that time that the Palestinians lost all credibility with the western governments. Obama is trying to give them a second (or third, fourth or is it fifth) chance of accepting peaceful agreements by seeming to be critical of Israel. I wish his stance would work and peace reigns in the Middle East.
When there were strong prospects of peace during negotiations between Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin, Palestinians ramped up their kamikaze campaign, blowing themselves up, killing Israelis, so as to create indignation and reprisals and thus destabilising the nearly successful peace agreement. The Palestinians' plan succeded, because Mr. Rabin was assassinated by an Israeli extremist and the peace process ended there and then.
There is too much extremism in the conflict and unless this is removed from the equation, there will never be real peace.
One more question: where does all the billions of money donated to the Palestinians go?.
Neville Calleja
May 3rd 2010, 06:21
I'm not sure how all of you feel. I won't engage in the 'who's right?' argument - I think that both are seriously flawed and extremely complex.
However, this is a worse diplomatic incident that the shooting itself. MFA please take notice - this is a serious affront, to the country and to the person and serious legal action should be considered in both cases.
Ramon Casha
May 3rd 2010, 06:16
It is common for Israel and its supporters to label anyone who disagrees with the occupation as terrorists, or terrorist sympathisers. The ambassador is reflecting that attitude.
ray sacco
May 2nd 2010, 23:18
terrorism was born in the so called holy land. and it was the jews who created it against the british. and the the leaders who organised terrorist acts, now are considered as heroes of israel.
JOe VELLa
May 2nd 2010, 22:13
@J Fenech
I could not have said it better.
That famous saying still hold: He who play with fire bound to burn himself.
adrian galea
May 2nd 2010, 21:59
There have been no reports at all that this woman was carrying, was planting or was aiding and abetting anyone to do so.
So why was she shot?
This is a familiar excuse I am afraid, and somewhat shameless.
By the way I have no connections with any of the organisations mentioned or otherwise.
Shooting someone is a very very serious incident and there better be a good reason for it. SO far, I have read none.
Sabena Cilia
May 2nd 2010, 21:45
@Martin Cassar
HAMAS are terrorists!
How do you call a Palestinian suicide bomber wearing 20Kgs of high explosive and steel marbles underneath his long white robe and blowing himself up in a bus packed with Israeli civilians in a busy square??
What does that remind you of? German Trench warfare or Al Qaeida terrorism?
HAMAS IS A TERRORIST organization because it does not seek a political solution by defeating military with military. It seeks to exterminate ALL innocent civilians, one by one!
YET If Israel wanted to be equally rough and cruel they would have exterminated all Palestinians with a couple of Nukes a very long time ago! But unlike the Palestinians the Israeli's are a civilized, well-educated lot! The Palestinians, on the other hand, are not interested in attacking military targets... They want every ordinary Israeli civilian to just die or disappear.
So as you can see this is not a fair game. When Palestinians murder Israeli's that is OK... But when Israel retaliates against them by hitting their military compounds... that is not OK and results in global condemnation!
ray sacco
May 2nd 2010, 21:45
bianca is not the first foreigner to be shot in the occupied territories. so if hamas are the cause for all this blood shed, can mr. ambassador explain how palestinians are being shot at also in the west bank which is governed by fatah? it is so simple for israel to weaken hamas! give peace talks a chance, give mahmoud abbas a chance. if abbas gets what he wants, an independent palestinian state which is rightly theirs, than the palestinian population will start believing in abbas again! after all, the fanatic hamas movement came to power only because the palestinians lost faith in abbas and his peace talks which always led to nothing!
martin chetcuti
May 2nd 2010, 21:44
Martin Cassar are you pro Palestinian or pro Hamas?? negotiate with who with Hamas?? Hamas killed there own people because they tried to resist them for a better Palestinian state and they elate there suicide bombers. Who cannot beat Hamas the Israelis ?? Are you joking?? Israel's mighty armed forces can vanish these thugs from the face of the earth in an instant but again there you see the tolerance of Israel they wait patiently for a moderate Palestinian party to negotiate with. I wonder what Hamas do should they have the same arsenal as the Israelis.
J Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 20:13
Serves her right!! she was fully aware that she was going in the line of fire. And that's what you should expect. She must be more concerned about the difficulties of her countrymen/women than throwing her weight behind a group bent on the annihilation of a whole country!
james calleja
May 3rd 2010, 17:09
no wonder why we maltese always remain ignorant and keep electing the same governments over and over again notwitstanding explicit corruption and continuous daylight robbery of the citizen. with people the likes of J Fenech around what do you expect? "serves her right" ; he said. let's see what you will have to say when you have your own children. That is, if they are unfortunate enough to be born in your household!! BTW prosit to the israeli ambassador for being so insensitive. perhaps he ought to attend some evening courses in diplomacy but first please, look it up in the dictionary. our government has shown one and all once more that he is no more that a weak, albeit noisy, chiwaua. otherwise we will never allow a stranger in our country to talk about a maltese citizen in this manner.
Joe Zammit
May 3rd 2010, 19:33
Mr Fenech, do you believe the ambassador? If you believe him, I just tell you that you are a 'mazzun'. If it is a combat zone, prove by giving me the document number and its date as issued by the United Nations! If the United Nations have not declared it 'combat zone' it is NOT a combat zone!
CA Miller
May 4th 2010, 03:04
An excerpt from an article written by two of the founders of ISM.
"Palestinian resistance must take on a variety of characteristics, both violent and nonviolent. But most importantly, it must develop a strategy involving both aspects. Nonviolent resistance is no less noble than carrying out a suicide operation."
If I ever get the urge to travel to Gaza and join these people in confronting the Israeli military in a well known war zone, I hereby authorize the soldiers to shoot me ... and I mean it.
Mark Scerri
May 2nd 2010, 18:23
stop repeating the same pathetic lie about the ISM .... a horrendous lie by the ambassador!!! All Ambassador Meir does is put the blame on the victims..............
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 20:57
Yes, victims indeed. Victims of being brainwashed by extremists to blow themselves and innocent people up because they go directly to heaven! Victims of terrorists who control every aspect of what happens in the Gaza strip.
Andrew Farrugia
May 2nd 2010, 22:04
What lies are you on about? Have you checked out the International Solidarity Movement on the internet? Have you checked out Ms.Zammit's particularly nasty brand of venom in ELECTRONIC INTIFADA? She is an accessory, like her pals at Graffitti, of sheer hatred of Israel and yet they have the cheek to use labels like "peace activists", "human rights campaigners" "civil society" and other such rot.
Mary Smith
May 3rd 2010, 05:03
Mr. Scerri, these terrorists blow themselves up not for any ideals such as a homeland for the Palestinians, but to go to heaven and meet the 72 virgins promised them in the Koran if they die in a Jihad against infidels, i.e. all non-Muslims, and this includes Christians and Jews.
Christian Sciberras
May 3rd 2010, 15:39
What the hell is wrong with people? Nowadays killing someone is as easy as cutting through butter.
What Mr Meir said is right if anyone wants to protest _peacefully_ they don't have to go into war zones.
Mark, he's not blaming the victims, he's blaming the war. Unless you're telling us their point is to kill innocent people?
If so, go protest at the UNHCR.
Joe Zammit
May 3rd 2010, 19:42
The International Solidarity Movement is founded on these two principles:
1. Belief in freedom for the Palestinian people based on all relevant United Nations Resolutions and international law; and
2. Using only non-violent, direct-action methods, strategies and principles to work towards our goal.
ray sacco
May 4th 2010, 00:25
@wilfred l.camilleri:
and how and why do these religious fanatics find so many desperate gullible volunteers ready to blow themselves up? is it because the hopelessness, despair, humiliation and human carnage have become a routine in the life of a palestinian? but the israelis and americans think that they can defeat terrorism with guns and bullets! the only way to destroy terrorism is to destroy the suffering and misery of people. the foundation of a terrorist group is man power and man power comes with a reason. remove the reason for which the terrorists persist and they will be weakened. give the palestinians their land and rights and islamic terrorism will fade away into history!
Martin Cassar
May 2nd 2010, 17:31
Part 2
Are Hamas really terrorists?
By calling them terrorists and branding them with all ugly names they don’t vanish. Many wars with Arab countries and yet Israel failed to change the equation on the ground. In fact after Israel last pogroms in Gaza, things remained unchanged. Hamas is 20+years old and still there fighting against the victims of the Holocausts illegal 60+ years old occupation (here I am using both USA and EU definition). Occupation is the key issue. Is this too invisible for some peoples see?
My point is this, if you can not beat them and finish them, negotiate with them.
The Jews know how much they suffered across Europe. I don’t think the Jews considering to return to Europe. The Jews only place is there among Arab countries and Israel must accept to live like all other countries, in a nuclear-free country with agreed-upon borders and abide with UN resolutions. Living in a border-less phoney Jew-Wish state is unacceptable and makes the Jews look more like gangs of robbers and subject to all types of retaliation from it’s neighbors. Israel, please note western bad economics do not afford more useless wars.
Martin Cassar
May 2nd 2010, 17:27
Are HAMAS really terrorists?
Certainly, the Jews are like Christians -Muslims -Atheist-Hindu- etc... The Jews peoples have all right to live and feel safe in any corner of the globe. The question is-Why it has the to be the on the Palestinians’ territory? And why all world wide Jews about 16 Millions must live in a place that only could take 6 Millions? And if such place will ever exist (which will not as its against History and Geography facts) What are the borders Jew-Wish dream state?
From the comments down here I can see many peoples are Confusing Jews with Israel and Zionists-again, the latter is a movement not associated with the Jews, and is the core of the Middle East conflict. (I suggest people to read about the Zionist movement)
Some Zionists financed media portrayed HAMAS (before not long ago it was all the Palestinians) as terrorist -Admitting so means, we Maltese were terrorists when defending our land, so were the Germans, French and Americans…etc. Portraying your enemy as the biggest EVIL on earth is the old fashion psychological technique always depend on who controls the media.
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 21:09
What are you talking about? Palestine is a made-up land. The people now referred to as Palestinians are simply Arabs who happened to live in that part of the middle-east. Look at some old maps of the region and I challenge you to find a country called Palestine. Both these peoples have lived there for centuries. The conflict started when the UN created the state of Israel and then got more complicated when the surrounding Arab countries tried to wipe out Israel, that is during the October 1973 war. These two people have to learn to live together without either side threatening the others existence.
Maria Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 22:20
If this were a real war, then there would have been a winning party and a defeated party
There would also be a peace treaty signed by both parties, where the defeated sides makes concessions and retreats in accordance to the wills and whims of the winning party.
But this is not a normal war. This is a war against terrorists of the purest form. There can never be a peace treaty with a ghost organisation. So there will never be peace until one of the sides is completely exterminated. The Palestinians are idiots because they are trying to fight an unwinnible war and what's worse is that to boot they are ideologically in the wrong.
The land legally belongs to the Israelis. They bought it back from the Arabs bit by bit in the 1900's
Wenzu Vella
May 2nd 2010, 23:11
Wilfred,
The only thing that is made and invented is the myth of the Jewish people.
The majority who claim Jewish heritage are not ISRAELITES and have no right to call themselves Jews
The only reason the State of Israel war created because the Jews were despised by all the nations that they settled in, including your so called best friend and supporter AMERICA.
what is made by man have a used by date and will crumble into dust.
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 23:32
@ Mr Camilleri, you asked for maps.
Historic Palestine pre-1946: http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Maps/Story583.html
In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.
At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine.
UN Partition Map: http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/cf02d057b04d356385256ddb006dc02f/3cbe4ee1ef30169085256b98006f540d?OpenDocument
In 1948, Israel declared its “independence” on 78% of Palestine, having stolen an additional 23% of Palestine since partition.
Map of Israel following armistice, 1949: http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/cf02d057b04d356385256ddb006dc02f/e55f901779c1f8e485256b9800714cef?OpenDocument
Palestinian communities on West Bank, vulnerable to illegal settler violence, situation as in November 2009: http://domino.un.org/unispal.nsf/cf02d057b04d356385256ddb006dc02f/ef71cf3d9e9a7b44852576700053b0c2?OpenDocument
(Main source: United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA)
1 November 2009)
m.chetcuti
May 2nd 2010, 17:17
To Martin Cassar I say that what you said about Ben Gurion might be true but I tell you that because the state of Israel is civilised it refrain from doing such things. Israel mighty armed forces can raze to the ground Gaza in just one day if they like but they opted not to do so because they know that the problem to this conflict is always the leadership of the Palestinian people not the people.
ray sacco
May 2nd 2010, 21:58
@m.chetchuti:
quote: "the mighty israeli armed forces can raze to the ground gaza in just one day"
ehm excuse me, but wasn't that exactly what the mighty israeli armed forces did recently?
quote: "palestinians are led by hamas which is a party who favor terrorism"
i totally agree, but there is no hamas in the west bank which is led by mahmoud abbas. so why are palestinians there being shot at, humiliated and treated just as the palestinians in gaza? and why didn't the israelis give abbas a chance in peace talks before hamas came to power? after all hamas were a small insignificant group only untill a few years ago!
m.chetcuti
May 2nd 2010, 17:09
Who owns the land is very complicated, it seem that both countries are right. Red Indians are not going to expel North Amercans same with Aborigines they are not expeling Australians. The solution is in compromising and negotiating. What worries me is that unfortunatley Palestinians are led by Hamas wich is a party who favor terrorism and elate 'martyrs', therefore peaceful negotiations and compromising is hopeless for now until Hamas or other party similar to them will be eliminated. But I am sure that time will come when a Democratic Palestinian party will be in power and negotiate peacefully with its neighbor.
Joiseph Calleja
May 2nd 2010, 17:08
Leave the Middle East alone. Stop interfering in their affairs and let Israel and Palestine reach their own peace in their own way. Ms Zammit decided to meddle in somebody else's business and she paid the price, thank God she was not killed. If the Jews and the Palestinians want to reach peace, they know how to reach it without our help. You can sympathize with anybody you like, but that does not mean you can solve their problem. I say again, look what happened because the USA and the UK interfered in the Middle East. The USA alone lost almost 5000 innocent lives and is spending billions of dollars that could be spent at home. How come the USA and the UK are not involved with Iran? Those people are hurting just as well as the Iraqis, the Pakistanis and the Palestinians. Nobody is trying to help the poor people of Iran who are being beaten and put in jail for protesting. The Middle East is ruled by religion and you cannot fight religion. We should know that by now.
Joe Zammit
May 3rd 2010, 17:23
You are mixing up things. Bianca went there on a mission of peace. If the Israelis were in the miserable state of the Palestinians, she would have gone to Israel. She goes to help those in great need. She has nothing to do with Hamas. Most Palestinians are against Hamas. She is in favour of human rights and peace.
Emanuel Zahra
May 2nd 2010, 17:05
Mr. Ambassador, please have the decency to respect the intelligence of Maltese and Gozitan citizens. We Maltese live in a democratic Country. Your tactics might work in Ghana, Sierra Leone or Papua New Guinea but surely not in Malta. Long live Israel, Long Live Free Palestine. The rules of the game in the Holy land much change, Israel should stop dictating, I know the story, I lived in Israel and the West Bank for over a month. Yes of Course, Hamas got Ms. Bianca Zammit by her ears and sent her to protest, You really think that Maltese are that stupid?
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 20:53
It's obvious from some of the comments that some Maltese are indeed! No Hamas, the charitable, peaceful organization had nothing to do with the protest! After all, Hamas is a democratic movement and doesn't control the life of the Palestinians in Gaza. Grow up!
Ahmed Bugri
May 2nd 2010, 22:16
Mr Zahra, are you implying that Maltese or Gozitans are more intelligent than Ghanaians etc. or that Malta is more of a democracy than these countries? Your comments are not only sad and pathetic but they reveal your ignorance. Probably a trip to Ghana might help to change your warped perception of these countries.
Please address the Israeli Ambassador if you object to what he had to say. That is what dmocracy is all about.
Emanuel Zahra
May 2nd 2010, 22:55
Mr. Camilleri, did I say that Hamas is a charitable, peaceful organization? not at all. Hamas is a Paramilitary political organization that is fighting for the Palestinians People to get their land back. It is doing exactly like the Israelis did to get their Independence from the British and there is a good chance that is what you would do if some foreign country occupies forcefully your homeland. By the way, I am not in anyway defending Hamas, I hate all forms form of violence, even state violence conducted by democratically elected Governments.
Jesmond Micallef
May 2nd 2010, 16:50
One that really baffles me here and indeed in all these arguments put forward in this long standing and indeed shameful conflict is the use of the word "Innocent". It seems to suggest that yes indeed, there are those who are obviuosly "guilty" somehow.!! Who is actually guilty here ?
The State of Israel will allways be under scrutiny somehow and we all know why. The military capability that the State of Israel has is indeed massive in comparison to what neighbouring countries have. Why do people feel threatened ? At the end of the day, people fight for something that they do not have.
I think there is no more wisdom left to this. Its just about promoting the past to biuld a secure future. The State of Israel should be looked at as a example to the rest of the world. To learn from the very bad things that happened in the past to the Jewish people and to MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. The Palestinian people do not have an all mighty environmentally freindly weapons industry which they can boast to the whole world about how intellectual and developed they are.
Maria Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 16:31
I really can't understand why so many people are attacking the Ambassador!!
My point is that Israeli soldiers could not tell that she was Maltese. Was she wearing a Maltese Flag? I think not!
They thought she was another Palestinian terrorist moving too close to the fence, perhaps trying to throw grenades or bombs over to the other side (like they often do!). Secondly, if they wanted to kill her they would have done so. They ONLY shot her in the leg to give her a strong warning. She walked straight into the line of fire and she knew perfectly well what she was getting herself into.
So Please!... Let us stop this Martyrdom Campaign.
We have got plenty of business ties with Israel and virtually none with the Palestinians. So why drag Malta into this mess???... It is not in our interest! Just let it be!
T.gauci
May 2nd 2010, 18:16
If Malta supports either Israel or Palestine then it's already in mess. I believe in Nationalism and i could care less what happens in other countries.
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 18:31
"We have got plenty of business ties with Israel and virtually none with the Palestinians. So why drag Malta into this mess???... It is not in our interest! Just let it be!"
How shallow! How mercenary! Have you no principles? Have you no idea about the concept of Social Justice? Do you believe in a 'superior race'?
David Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 19:31
I believe that staying silent and compromisng justice just because we have business ties with Israel is utterly irresponsible and selfish given that human dignity is in question. Do remember that the one who adopts the position of neutrality in situations of injustice is siding with the aggressor.
Secondly, why are you defending the Israelis by claiming that they thought that she was just another Palestinian "perhaps trying to throw grenades..."? If this was true I must say that the Israeli soldier and the likes of you, Ms Spiteri, must admire Ms Zammit's remarkable skill at hiding such bulky weapons. Also your comment sounds like Palestinian lives are worth less than others. may I remind you that since Ms Zammit's incident, more Palestinians were killed because they were protesting in that same area, in a buffer zone, established by an occupier, on good fertile land?
Do consider the possibility that if Israeli soldiers do not want to kill Palestinains they simply wouldn't. It is not that difficult to bring down someone who is right next to the border preparing to use a heavy weapon.
Money can't overshadow injustice!
Steve Demicoli
May 2nd 2010, 20:27
I really can't understand why so many people are attacking the Ambassador!!
Is it maybe because he implied a Maltese citizen was 'sent by' a group he and his Jew-Wish state branded as 'terrorists' - implying her as 'linked with terrorism'?
And, by the way Bianca was armed - with a very dangerous weapon indeed - a camera; meaning she could expose the truth about what really happened (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBPVZjoHVSg), as opposed to what the Jew-Wish said that happened
'We have got plenty of business ties with Israel', 'It is not in our interest! Just let it be!'
This sort of reasoning makes me feel very secure if I run into any trouble overseas - I'll have to select the country I go to according to my country's 'business ties' because if so, people like you wouldn't think twice to 'let me go'
Maria Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 22:09
What's the point of discussing morals when both sides are wrong and right at the same time?
If you side with the Palestinians then you have innocent Israeli Blood on your hands.
If you side with the Israeli's then you have innocent Palestinian Blood on your hands.
In case you haven't realized, the world is a mercenary and shallow place. Just in case you didn't know... Europe sells weapons to BOTH sides of every conflict. So does the US, China, Russia and guess what even IRAN!
The fact remains that we are not involved in any of this nonsense and we should not get involved or let anybody drag us into the debate. Bianca's nosy move was very unwelcome!
Charles Sammut
May 2nd 2010, 16:24
Mr Ambassador Rachel Cory was not sent by Hamas to plant any bombs and she was murdered by an Israeli bulldozer most probably paid for by the US taxpayers. You can only demonise the other side so much. Sure Hamas are no good but ms Zammit did not pose any thpeath. I hope she gets a good Jewish Lawyer and sue your state for the pain and suffering. I always tend to give the israelis more slack because they are surrounded by 22 Arab countries that seek their destruction but that does not mean that Israel is never wrong.
S Gauci
May 2nd 2010, 16:54
Mr Sammut, what's the 'Jewish lawyer' thing about?
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 20:07
Your right of course. The Israelis are not blameless in this conflict. But do you really believe that they were aware that Bianca was a Maltese person and not a Palestinian? She blended in with the rest of the crowd and we know that in the past some so called peaceful protesters blew themselves up as soon as they were close to soldiers. If Bianca is really intelligent then she would have known that protests usually turn to violence and that there is always a possibility that people will get shot or injured.
Martin Cassar
May 2nd 2010, 16:22
Part 1
How the Zionists fulfilling their Jew-wish state dream?
When the founder of the Zionist immigration movement Mr. David Ben Gurion was approached by journalists to answer the question in connection with the prospective borders of “Israel” he answered: The borders of Israel would be drawn as far as war tanks could demolish, ravage Arab lands and as far as aerial shelling could go!
Two decades ago, same questions was asked to Mr. Sharon (currently in 5 years old Coma). He evaded the answer about Israel’s borders and twisted the answer and said: the good Palestinian is the Dead Palestinian!
What would you expect from a country based on terrorism?
Yes, simply I see Israel as a no country but an ugly accident in history or more like an armed gang of robbers with the support of the UK and USA they were illegally and forcefully permitted to settle on the Palestinian people’s territory.
This guy should thank his lucky star he is not arrested in Malta.
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 20:00
Yes, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and Al-Qaeda are peaceful and humanitarian organizations. And Bin Laden, the 9/11 bombers, the UK subway bombers, and the Spanish train bombers are peace loving individuals who were out to bring peace to the rest of the world!
Sabena Cilia
May 2nd 2010, 16:17
@G.Debono and ALL PARENTS in MALTA
Ask yourself this very simple question...
If you *HAD* to choose between the life of your OWN three children and the life of a 1000 other innocent little children...What would you choose?? There are no third options - it's got to be one way or the other!
I certainly know what I would choose! AND I don't care how many people lose their lives if that is what it takes to save my own offspring. I think that every Maltese parent would probably think in the same way, if faced with the dilemma in real life!
The Israeli's are simply protecting their own families with every means they have at their disposal. So the journalist is being very VERY very unfair when he points fingers at Israel when his own kids are safe at home! It is easy to pontificate from an armchair! Try putting yourself in their shoes instead!
Having read history very closely, I today support the Israeli cause through and through! I would do just the same thing if I were in their shoes!
G.Debono
May 2nd 2010, 16:51
Simple. I as a Maltese parent would work hard (and not fool around) to create an environment where no children should suffer. You see, the only obstacle to peace is not hamas - hamas would implode, like the IRA did in northern Ireland. only if the Israeli government stopped killing innocent people, putting palestenian people in a state of exteme poverty, taking land and putting settlements and then claim it is israeli land, negotiating a land for peace which is a catch 22 for Fatah.
Sorry Sabena - the history books you've read might be a tad biased. I was once an avid Israeli supporter, to the point that I used to hate the Palestenian people. Today I hate no one and am no longer a support of israel for bullying and ruining so many peoples' lives. The US is certainly not on very good terms either with Israel.
That is not a combat zone, unlike the ambassador is saying. Can he proove that anyone from the Palestenian side was shooting anything, except singing, at the time? Is Northern Ireland a combat zone?
The open secret of not endangering our children is for Israel to stop terrorising the Palestenian people.
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 18:26
Really? And what, may I ask, would you do if you were a Palestinian and your land was being systematically built upon (illegally, not according to me but according to the United Nations) and saw your children being killed indiscriminately by Israeli snipers? Would you turn the other cheek and pray for the 'peace' that the Zionist propaganda machine says that it wants?
Robert Agius
May 3rd 2010, 13:09
Sometimes ignorance has no limits and people like you are the proof. I think its about time you REALLY get to reading history and do something about your twisted logic.
Martin Cassar
May 2nd 2010, 16:16
Part 1
Anybody heard about the god-Jew contract of a promised land?
I couldn’t get a copy of this contract from MEPA I am afraid, so I had to check in the Bible:
In the Bible I came across: 1 Samuel 15:3
‘Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'’
This is exactly what Israel has been doing for six decades. In my opinion, both Israel and their god should be arrested and go for international court and trialed for war crimes and holding seeds of terrorism that .
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 20:12
Oh, so now you want to arrest God! If you are Christian you would know that their God is also your God. If on the other hand you are not Christian, then I understand your twisted logic!
m.chetcuti
May 2nd 2010, 16:11
To you Hamas supporter who write in these blogs and say that the state of Israel is a warmonger state. I say to you that if Israel is a warmonger state it have all the might to raze to the ground Gaza in just one day but because Israelis are civilised they do not and wait for a better Palestinian leadership to negotiate with. Warmongers are Hamas who Elate an Greet there so calles 'martyrs' who blew themselves and innocent people with them.
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 18:08
Absolute rubbish! That is what Israel tried to do with the Hizbollah in Southern Lebanon a couple of years ago - and failed miserably! Like all bullies, they are only strong with the weak and then they claim to be the victims.
Charles Inglott
May 2nd 2010, 21:57
@Wally Vella Zarb
If Israel is the bully you claim, that leaves only one very simple and very clean solution...
Just nuke Gaza Strip and the West Bank and the problem will be over in 1 second! Forever!
It would cost them much less. And waiting for the nuclear fallout to dissipate would take even less time than waiting for the ignorant Palestinans to come to terms with reality!
Martin Cassar
May 2nd 2010, 15:59
@ victor vella
A slice of Israel long list of terrorism
17 Sept.1948, Jewish terrorists assassinated Count Folke Bernadotte of Sweden as he sought to bring peace to the Middle East. The 54-year-old diplomat, sitting on the right in the back, was hit by six bullets and died instantly. French officers with Bernadotte were killed too.
28 Feb. 1986, the mystifying assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olaf Palme, who attempted to prevent bloodshed between Iraq and Iran. When the Zionists came to the conclusion that his policies were not in accordance with their goals, their intelligence assassinated him. No leads were found for this crime except for a bullet which the Zionist intelligence is known to use."
Bombarding airplanes
21 Feb. 1973, a Libyan Arab Airways Boeing 727, flight number 114 with 104 passengers was shot down by the Israeli Air Force. The aircraft was shot down by a pair of Israeli Air Force F-4E Phantom.
Tony Blair's jet
15 May. 2006 Tony Blair came within moments of being killed when two Israeli fighter aircraft threatened to shoot down a private jet taking him to a Middle East peace conference.
Mark Palman
May 2nd 2010, 19:01
What a biased view of events. Firstly, the assissination of Swedish Presiden Olaf Palme. This remains an unsolved case today. If you really know who was involved and why, I suggest you contact the police in Stockholme as they've been trying to find out for 24 years. A local drug addict was arrested and put in jail for the crime but was released on appeal. Please stick to facts and not conspiracy theory.
The Libyan airliner flew over Israeli airspace, having got there from Egyptian airspace. At that time in 1973, Israel and Egypt were at war, so any plane going from one country to the other was going to be suspect. The copilot survived, and admitted that the Israeli jets had tried to force the plane down peacefully but the pilot of the airliner refused because Lybia was not on good terms with Israel. The Israelis shot at the wings of the plane to cripple it into a gentle landing on sand dunes below, but it exploded on contact with the ground.
This was of course five months after the death of eleven Israeli athletes murdered at the Munich Olympic Games by the Arab Black September organisation.
G.Debono
May 2nd 2010, 15:56
Mr. Ambassador
You state you have sophisticated intelligence. I don't argue with that. However had Mossad or whatever kept you up to date with such intelligence, you would've known that the Maltese Government and the European Union have in face many time condemed in the strongest possible way, Hamas and their Israeli blood on their hand (rather than jewish blood as you state, unless Israel is made up of Jews only).
The thing is, there is a time to condem Hamas and there is a time to condem your government (not all the Israeli people) for being so trigger happy with innocent lives be they Palestenian or foreigners.
Terrorist activities from the Palestenian side have subsided substantially with the help of the west, Fatah and other moderate people. You guys though, instigate more violence by keeping the majority of the people there in poverty, killing their children etc.. Do you 3 children's lives count more than Palestenian children?
You have lost many allies (myself being one of them) with the Israeli government tactics. The US has shown it's anger towards Israel - what more do you want to back down? Being democratic is also not being a state sponsored murdurer.
Marianna Galea Xuereb
May 2nd 2010, 15:41
If Bianca wants to protest about something, then as a Maltese citizen she ought to protest against Malta being taken over by illegal immigrants and criminals AND let others solve their own problems and their own wars if at all justified.
But it seems that in Bianca's mind Palestinians are infinitely superior to real Maltese Citizens.
Danika Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 15:39
PLEASE NOTE that if Israel wanted to kill Bianca they would have shot her in the middle of her forhead. But they didn't!
They only shot her in the leg. The intention was to cause a minor peripheral wound - A stern warning to make people reailise that this is not a game. It is war!
This was only a warning shot to tell people that protesting in the battleground is a dangerous activity. How do you expect Israeli soldiers to tell the difference between a peacefull protest and a covert Hamas attack?? How do you expect them to tell that she was Maltese?
I think they reacted appropriately and if I was an Israeli soldier I would do the same, again and again! The protesters could have easily been carrying weapons, rifles, shotguns or portable rocket launchers hidden in their long robes. This is quite common and it is understandable that Israel just can't take the risk.
If Bianca has Hamas and Hezbollah sympathies, she can of course protest, but she should protest in a more sensible place - just like the ambassador said.
L. Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 17:23
Your reasoning amazes me. Even a shot in the leg can be fatal, in fact an activist like Bianca lost his life after he was shot in the legs recently. You should ask yourself why the no go zone is always on the palestinian side and never on the israeli territory.The reason is that after some time the bulldozers and cranes come in to build jewish housing settlements on palestinian territory.
v mercieca
May 2nd 2010, 15:30
And I thought that it was only our Prime Minister and his ministers who, to keep us happy, gave us stupid replies.
Mario Tabone-Vassallo
May 2nd 2010, 15:28
Ghal l-informazjoni tal-hafna ghorrief Maltin ta' hawn taht, dan li kien irrappurtat fil-gazzetta Lhudija Izrajelita Haaretz il-lum: A new leftist European Jewish group, JCall, has written a letter to be delivered Sunday to the European Parliament calling for a cessation of what it calls systematic support for Israeli government decisions. JCall, which describes itself as "the European J Street" and is to be officially launched Sunday with the presentation of the letter, has raised a storm with its call to stop construction in West Bank settlements and East Jerusalem. The letter is signed by some 3,000 Jewish intellectuals, among them philosophers Bernard Henri-Levy and Alain Finkielkraut, considered some of Israel's strongest defenders among French intellectuals. Signatories also include Daniel Cohn-Bendit, leader of the student protests in the 1960s and now a member of the European Parliament, as well as other Jewish members of the European Parliament. The letter calls occupation and settlements "morally and politically wrong," noting that they "feed the unacceptable delegitimization process that Israel currently faces abroad."
Raymond Sammut
May 2nd 2010, 14:58
Gideon Meir isn't accusing anyone in particular of being a terrorist. His comments are in reference to Hamas.
Hamas refuse to acknowledge the state of Israel. They have also cut relations with Maḥmūd ʿAbbās. To top it all up, they carry qassam rockets to the border and fire them into Israel --a kind of a miss and hit attitude. This is surely not the way to find equitable solutions.
I think Gideon Meir has been frank and upfront in giving this interview. He spoke freely both as a private person and as a representative of the Israeli government. We may not agree with him in everything, but at least he has allowed himself to be open to questions. I like to wait for Herman Grech to interview someone from the Hamas leadership (or representative) and watch him apply the same pressure (especially in regard to qassam rockets), so then we can have both sides of this saga.
My view is that Hamas need to re-think their position. They cannot keep cutting themselves off like this. There is a profound need for some positive overtures from their camp. Their attitude only makes it easier to the wrong people.
Steve Demicoli
May 2nd 2010, 14:55
Do you trust this guy who calls a fellow Maltese citizen a Hamas accessory?
The Israeli establishment do not even respect and play fair against its closest and strongest ally (US) let alone others:
Have a look on: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 15:28
Oh yes, I believe this like I believe that pigs fly!
Steve Demicoli
May 2nd 2010, 15:50
Oh surely you can't be saying that your side's beloved Americans (as in Fox news) are lying, can you?
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 19:52
My side is Malta not the Americans!
Steve Demicoli
May 3rd 2010, 19:01
If your side is really Malta (as you say in your post) why are you defending the man who is saying that his country's military were right in shooting an unarmed fellow Maltese girl?
Malcolm Borg
May 2nd 2010, 14:55
Sometimes some statesmen do not have answers for something and revert to stupid accusations:
"Activists like Bianca Zammit were being used by Hamas to plant bombs at disputed borders, according to Israeli Ambassador to Malta Gideon Meir."
Prove it.
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 15:30
No, she was planting flowers!
Miriam Fenech - Uni.UK.
May 2nd 2010, 14:51
Typical Jewish backlash or a silly answer, i haven't got time for them sorry.
Wilfred Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 15:36
Good, go back to your fairytale life.....
Anthony Buttigieg
May 2nd 2010, 14:47
Mr. Meir should make up his mind. If Bianca was in a war zone, that infers Israel is at war. If so ther Palestinian "terrorists" they are fighting should be treated under the rules of the Geneva Convention as prisoners of war, when caught, not as criminals. If Israel is not at war then Bianca had every right to roam on any part of Palestinian Territory (UN's definition not Israel's) as long as the Palestinian's allowed it.
Anthony Buttigieg MD
Wilfred Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 14:41
Yes, I finally see the light reading these intelligent and insightful postings. Hamas is a charitable organization and Israel is a terrorist state and Bianca is a humble missionary.
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 18:16
Not quite. You only got one right and one almost. (1) Zionist Israel IS a terrorist state. (2) Bianca can be described as a humble SOCIAL missionary in that she teaches English to the Palestinian children in Gaza.
Joe Apap
May 2nd 2010, 14:35
Most of the comments below have no clear view of History and what is Izrael and what is Izrael going through.
The arabs made many wars since 1948 to throw the Izraelis in the sea.
I believe that by right now the Izraelis have a right to the Lands that they have won by wars not started by them but by the Arabs
Izraelis have democracy and have 11 Arab members in the Izraeli Parliament.
The Arabs in Izrael are divided between them in two factions
It is only the Arabs in Gaza who continually send rockets and bomb the Izraelis.
Adriano Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 14:32
Jewish arrogance at its best.
No more wars for Israel!
S Gauci
May 2nd 2010, 16:20
Using the words 'Jewish' and 'Israeli' interchangeably betrays your anti-semitism, I'm afraid.
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 14:22
The blinkered stupidity of some of the people commenting in favour of the warmongering state of Israel knows no bounds. Why else would someone attempt to claim that support for the Palestinian people is coloured by local political allegiance???
joseph cachia
May 2nd 2010, 14:13
@ MAG RICHARDS
Re your comment .
Please learn and note that MALTA and MALTESE population supported PALESTINE FOR THE PAST 65 YEARS. PALESTINIANS OUR BLOOD BROTHERS being descendants
of PHEONICIANS.
65 years ago MALTA was in support for the families that been uprooted from homes and land by america /east european species/ the U.K. jewish dominated whitehall.
That time support for the invaders was being hammered into our brains, but never succeded.and won't suceed today.
We never accepted BRAINWASHING. WE ACCEPT LOGICAL FARENESS
We do support HAMAS the legal reps in PALESTINE and HISBOLLAH their supporters against america/israel/ U.K.. war to dominate t middle east. Both institutions are FREEDOM FIGHTERS against the AGGRESSORS INVADERS.
Yes we DO cut bridges with the present sect that govern izrael, and keep siding with PALESTINIANS.
J. Cachia
Paul Smith
May 2nd 2010, 14:12
Miss or Mrs. Richards
Read a book and learn something instead of wasting your time on this forum insulting my Maltese Brothers and sisters and my 2 maltese children
O Jerusalem! (Paperback)
Great read; well-researched; in the same category as "Is Paris Burning?" Authors Collins and La Pierre have been factual and fair in their presentation of the events that led to the rebirth of the nation of Israel. Describes the seed of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
This is must-read for everyone who wants to understand why this tiny piece of Middle Eastern real property has been the center of dispute for many centuries now.
Adriano Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 14:05
The Jew at his best.
No more wars for Israel!
Adrian Cachia
May 2nd 2010, 13:51
To all people pro-Israel posting inside here.
You should read some history and follow what is really happening down in Israel / Palestine (what's left of it).
I think some of you inside here just get one side of the story.
J Bondin
May 2nd 2010, 15:55
You clearly seem to prefer the other side however!!
Adrian Cachia
May 2nd 2010, 16:18
You just assumed that yourself. Both sides are on the wrong. Both sides provoke each other. But one of the sides down there wants to look innocent in front of the media. I am not picking any sides but clearly some people are suffering more then others.
John Azzopardi
May 2nd 2010, 13:48
That maltese lady had no right being there in the first place. Instead of protesting, she should get a job and life.
L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 13:35
Shame on the ambassador. We Maltese should be proud of Bianca Zammit. She risks her life to raise awareness on the violation of rights that are being carried out by Israel. Instead of sitting down and criticize on this commentary, people like Bianca are witnessing the perpetual injustices and atrocities which the palestinian people are suffering. These so called "combat zones" are always found on the palestinian territory, where Palestinian farmers have to risk their lives to grow some crops to feed their children.
B. Cachia
May 2nd 2010, 13:25
The fact is that she wouldn't have been there without the permission if not the support of Hamas, which controls Gaza, and which is an organization that does not accept the principle of a peaceful settlement. Whether you're using a camera or any other tool, if you're working alongside a group engaged in a violent struggle, and committed to continuing that struggle until the other side no longer exists, then you're not a peace activist.
J.F. Vassallo Ebejer
May 2nd 2010, 13:18
@ J, Borg
Yes, we Maltese are proud to support people like Bianca – she has more guts than 1000 “brave” Israeli “soldiers”.
Why don’t you emigrate to Israel – you’ll be allowed to kill as many non-Israelis as you like.
@ Margaret Richards
Hamas and Hizbollah are giving Israel a taste of its own medicine – if Israel stops the genocide it is carrying out, Hamas and Hizbollah will have no reason to exist.
Actually, Hamas and Hizbollah are not only fighting the Israeli occupation, they are also fighting the US, the UK and Egypt who are financing and logistically supporting the genocide.
You and J. Borg are really worthy allies of Israel – and that’s not a compliment.
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 15:21
Yes Hamas and Hezbollah are the good guys in this conflict. They never hurt anybody. May Allah bless them!
S Gauci
May 2nd 2010, 16:17
No, I'm afraid Hamas and Hizbollah are not fighting against 'terror' or 'genocide'. I'm sure you very well know that their wish is to wipe out the entire state of Israel, and kill all the Jews! Are you saying that they want peace, and will settle for any 'two state solution', and will stop fighting once that is achieved? Dream on!
Wilfred L Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 19:53
Dear S. Gauci, I was being sarcastic!
J.Borg
May 2nd 2010, 22:26
Or I could just go to palastine and shoot some rockets at israeli children playing football in their back yard. Malta should not get involved in this we have no interest in that war leave us to our own problems.
A.Borg
May 2nd 2010, 13:09
I really cannot see the point of this Maltese going to protest in a troblesome area between to conflicting countries. Does she really know the story from 1948!? I doubt. She should have known the risks.
Simon Debono
May 2nd 2010, 13:05
mhux kulhadd hekk jaghmel...ghal uliedna ahna naghmlu kollox....l-Israeljani bhalna...ghax ma nghidux li Hamas tuza tfal biex jinhbew warajhom u jisparaw missili fuq Israel...ahna ma nistghux inkun ma side jew ohra...ghax il-verita hi li t-tnejn qed igibu l-inkwiet b'idejhom...kull pajjiz ghandu dritt jiddefendi t-territorju tieghu...anke Israel
margaret richards
May 2nd 2010, 12:52
@ Joe Fenech - Cut bridges with Israel??? Then what? Create them with Hamas or Hizbollah???
Joe Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 13:38
Don't say things I haven't said!
G.Mangion
May 2nd 2010, 18:37
@ joe fenech, (Don't say things I haven't said )
no you just Pulished your words on the times ! cool. as for Bianca Zammit, in Maltese we say : Tidhol bejn il - Basla u Qoxrita ghax tohrog b' Rihita !!!
A.Vella
May 2nd 2010, 12:45
how arrogant. I really expect the authorities to act on this speculative accusation of terrorisim. And if it is not taken back with the adequate apologies, expel him right away. Keep up the great work Bianca
Danika Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 15:22
What great Work?
Putting herself and others foolishly at risk?
The way I see it, this was very idiotic!
Caroline Demicoli
May 2nd 2010, 12:43
Protesting peacefully for poor farmers' right to keep their own land has suddenly become a terrorist act! The arrogance of a cheeky ambassador is an insult to anyone with a mere sense of democracy!
I admire the resoluteness and survival instinct of Israel but their arrogance, cheekiness and disrespect towards all other nations in the World has gone too far. They have ignored international law and basic fundamental rights for far too long. We speak of Iran and North Korea, the world should definitely put Israel in the same league.
Carmel Pisani
May 2nd 2010, 15:50
Farmland? What farmland?
Do you people have eyes? Then go and watch Bianca's OWN footage on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPHHl0KMb4
This is no farmland... This is completely uncultivated desert steppe! It is also full of mines and unexploded shells. It is useless wasteland. The whole story is fabricated by Hamas as excuse to make the world feel sorry for the Palestinian "Farmers"
...and you all fall for it (Bianca Included!) like a fish after a worm.
Raymond Farrugia
May 2nd 2010, 12:35
For a people that knows what suffering at the hands of a fascist regime is one should expect better from the Israelis.
joseph cachia
May 2nd 2010, 12:26
magie richards
Please enjoy your few days our weather and leave our country in peace, BUT DONT
put your nose into our affairs.
Just remember hiroshima-vietnam-korea-iraq-afgan -PALESTINE and many other coutrries
that came under america invasion and sulpher bombed.
we are all against izrael occupation , murder and threatment of innocent PALESTINIAN families.
J. Cachia B'Bugia
Joseph Cauchi
May 2nd 2010, 17:13
@ Joseph Cachia,
Wouldn’t it be better if you kept your mouth shut?
Che Figura?
Ms Maggie Richards is most welcomed to enjoy our Maltese hospitality.
JC.
lborg
May 2nd 2010, 12:18
very sick indeed to jump to the conclusion that the maltese female activist was sent by hamas to plant bombs
was JESUS CHIRST also sent by hamas a freedom fighter group mr israeli ambassdor?
J Pace
May 2nd 2010, 12:10
According to the Ambassador, 'the Hamas do not have a right to send civilians to the borders which are a war zone'. Yet, Israel has the right to cross to the borders with it's soldiers and shoot at civilians to take back land which belongs to them!
No wonder the whole world is against you!!
Sergio Caruana
May 2nd 2010, 12:00
Just a question to those who are saying that Bianca should not go there. We had many people posting on The Times saying that If CABS who protest against what they say is bird slaughter in Malta have a right to do so. So are you telling us that CABS have a right to protest against "bird slaughter" and activists from all over the world who protest against Israel and their murder of Palestinians including women and children cannot do so? So is a bird more valuable for you than the life of a Palestinian person?
gaffarena joseph
May 2nd 2010, 11:59
WELL SAID AMBASSADOR.
That area is a war zone and no civilians should be protesting there.Better if you come home
Bianca and protest from here.
After all we do not want to stop our good relation with Israel,because of a protester who have been living with this terrorist group for over sex months.We are a peaceful nation and our govt,have to be very diplomatic about this matter.I, am against all terrorists because they only bring bloodshed to innocent people.To win your rights there are many democratic ways.
So,come home where you belong,and protest safely from your own country,if there is a good reason to protest?
Adrian Cachia
May 2nd 2010, 13:54
Mr. Gaffarena.
That area was no war-zone before the Israelis decided to take the land. It was farmland being tilled by palestenians.
Israel created the war zone so basically all they have to do is move back to where they were before....
M Saliba
May 2nd 2010, 11:58
The problem with the ambasador is that he thinks that he is 100% right.
The fact that it is lawful to shoot in a combat zone does not justify shooting a girl who was unarmed. Probably the Israeli were afraid that Ms Zammit would publish the footage of what is really happeing in the border zone.
J.Borg
May 2nd 2010, 11:57
Bianca has no right to any sort of sympathy Malta should not support her.
Tony Mizzi
May 2nd 2010, 11:55
The whole point is is simple .... this is not our war !!!! The Maltese government and opposition should understand this fact. Bianca was demonstrating in area which according to Isreal is a no go zone whereas for Palestine is their land. Up to the 2 countries in question to sort the matter ..... not for the Gonzi, Muscat & co brigade. As a neutral state, Malta should remain equidistant from both countries, & not commit same mistakes of the past. I'm still seeing in my mind the former leaders of my country wearing the kafrija in a spedo peace demonstation - - a sign of Palestinian militance
Bianca, on her own capacity, as an individual person, such as anyone can have her own opinion and do what she thinks is right. However, at the same, she should be aware of the risks associated. Being in a war zone, demonstrating in areas where you know that soldiers are instructed to shot means that you are ready to lose your life as well. So, no need to say how unfortunately she is .... because she was perfectly aware of what she was doing.
g.c.Forte
May 2nd 2010, 12:57
Very well said...I agree with your comment.
lgalea
May 2nd 2010, 11:54
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/05/20105183327716334.html
Refugees: 'Let us work to survive'
Robert Callus
May 2nd 2010, 11:51
This is a grave insult to the Maltese people. This man doesn't realize that unlike the US, Malta did not sell its soul to ZIonist lobby groups and media. No matter how much money they have. Say your lies to Fox news not the Times of Malta. We Maltese have a brain and most of us use it Mr Meir.
Joseph Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 11:50
What The Ambassador said is a clear example of Israeli arrogance. No wonder they were expelled from every country in the world.
James De Giorgio
May 2nd 2010, 11:32
Judging by their comments below, Maltese people face a HUGE DILEMMA.
They can't tell who they dislike most, the Arabs or the Jews...
S Gauci
May 2nd 2010, 16:09
LOL, well said, Mr De Giorgio! :)
victor vella
May 2nd 2010, 11:20
Long Live Israel, the land of milk and honey, Down with the Arab terroists.That is what I believe, was it Israelis who bombed the airliner over Lockerbie, was it Israel who bombed the disco in Berlin, Come on people do not let your local political view cloud your vision.Palestinians are shunned by their own brothers they have been the casue of so much pain and anguish,
T.Cutajar
May 2nd 2010, 11:18
B'lhall xejn ma tipretendix xi monumet jew xi gieh ir republika(Bianca),Hallina trid!!!!!!
Joe Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 11:13
Cut the bridges with the Israelis FULL STOP!
margaret richards
May 2nd 2010, 11:13
THIS IS WHAT YOU MALTESE HOLIER THAN THOU ANTI SEMITIC PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING!!! 'We assemble today to stand up and pay our respects to the march of the martyrs, which increases, does not decrease, and to the river of blood that gushes forth & does not extinguish. From butchery to butchery & from martyrdom to martyrdom, from Jihad to Jihad!! (Sami Al Arian -1990 Islamic Committee for Palestine Conf. Chicago Illinois). Dear sons of our Palestinian people & the martyrs, we are against this American & Israeli peace. This peace has no benefit to the Arab nation and the Palestinian people. So our blessed uprising will not stop. Only the Jihad & the true unity of our nation will terrify the enemy. Death & shame on israeli agents, Death to all the criminals & to America the enemy of our people. (GHASSAN BALLUT ICP REPRESENTATIVE 1991 - ICP CONF - CHICAGO ILLINOIS)
M.Cachia
May 2nd 2010, 13:43
How nice - express any form of opinion where Israel is in the wrong and you are immediatly labelled an anti-semite. Are you so blind Mrs. Richards that you can't see the wrong that Israel is doing to the palestenian population - which is not only muslim, but also consists of a sizeable christian population - something that the state of Israel trys not to publicise-It's convenient to put all palestenians into the 'muslim terrorist' basket. Israael used to be the victim, but now it has turned into the aggressor.
T Mifsud
May 2nd 2010, 11:11
To all below that are jumping emotionally blindly to defend Bianca ...
Of course we wish Bianca well. She is Maltese and naturally we are on her side and therefore a side of us will defend her no matter what.
However... the ambassador is right and no one can deny it as it is a fact that if you go in harms way, you will be harmed full stop. A war zone is a war zone full stop. A mine field is a mine field full stop. And that 300m buffer is a combat zone full stop! No one civilian should have been there, thats it.
After all the ambassador declared that she should have protested within Israel without problems, or in Gaza, but why go directly where bullets are flying? Combat zones are not subject to civilian law, but military command.
I wish Bianca well. I admire her courage and her motivation and cause. But please do not put your life in danger unnecessarily. You only have 1 life.
Salvu Schembri
May 2nd 2010, 11:48
T Mifsud What if some country invaded Malta and carried out the same atrocities that Israel carried and is constantly carrying out against the Palestinians and ordered you not to go to an area of your own country, would you blindly obey Mr Mifsud?
peter fitzgerald
May 2nd 2010, 11:08
While i too believe in a Palestinian state i would definitly not support Hamas or Hizbollah. The hate and vermon of so called religious leaders sends shivers down my spine.
These would not spare any jewish man , woman or child. When asked wat they want the most is not a Palestinian state but only to destroy Israel and create an islamic world under how they interpret sharia law.They have also killed fellow Palestinians and send other peoples childern to be suicide bombers while they hide in bunkers. More Muslims have killed Muslims than any jew or Christian. No Bianca do protest in my name.
mary Pace
May 2nd 2010, 12:03
Protest in your name, how much she likes, BUT NOT IN MY NAME!!!!
joseph cachia
May 2nd 2010, 11:07
@K.Spiteri...J.Zammit...Paul
On whose pay are you three, america or izrael.
How can we tolerate this big mouth happy trigger to
be on our soil insulting the MALTESE public.
JOSEPH CACHIA B'BUGIA
Joseph Zammit
May 2nd 2010, 12:26
Dear Joseph Cachia,
Im not a simpatetic of nither the US nor Israel.. Im on my own pay!! Thats no 1.
Im 100% MALTSE and proud of NOT tollerating any big mouths against Maltse and my country!
Unfortunately the ambassador is 100% right, hes not saying she is terrorist. But that she is being used by terrorist organiations..
She can protest in other safer loctions. Did you question why she had to do it in a 300meters buffer zone at the border?
Im sorry but definately Mrs Zammit is not welcome to represent me, or my country by such tragedy!!
mario genovese
May 2nd 2010, 11:07
Shooting people trying to escape the iron curtain was a shame....shooting Israelis in concentration camps was a shame.....shooting anti government people in Iraq was a shame......the world struggled to end these curses.......................FINE.
Shooting palestinians who try to grow their food on the soil that once was theirs...............the world watches and closes a blind eye (because the ally involved here is the strongest nation on earth) I hope the new president WILL change this attitude too.....Yes we can Mr President!
Joe Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 11:03
What I's also like to see is young people protesting out corrupt regime. Charity begins at home!
Mario Tabone-Vassallo
May 2nd 2010, 11:02
Ghandi hafna hbieb Lhud u naqsam maghhom hafna hsibijiet u twemmin. L-ghar haga li qatt sehhet ghall-Lhud kienet il-mixja zijonista li ftit ftit bidlet lil dawk moghmija biha fl-Izrajel, f'mera ta' l-isterjotipa oxxena li dejjem kasbruhom biha: hattafa, giddieba, bla qalb. Imnalla li ghad fadal kotra ikbar Lhud, uhud fl-Izrajel u hafna iktar barra mad-dinja, li huma nies sewwa u mill-iprem. Bizzejjed tara kif dawk minnhom li thabbu u ndiehsu mar-regim razzista fis-Sudafrika, bhalissa qed johduha kontra l-imhallef Lhudi Goldstone li xela l-ghemil fahxi ta' l-Izrajel f'Gaza, sa waslu juzaw ir-religjon, il-Barmitszvah ta' neputih, b'mod politiku. Ma ninsewx li x-xhieda hi li l-Izrajel kien imdahhal fl-isvilupp tal-bomba nuklejari Sudafrikana. Ghidli ma min taghmilha u nghidlek x'int. Sur Vella-Zarb, il-min ma jafx hallieh ipeclaq. Il-vojt dejjem jirbombja iktar.
Joe Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 11:01
Is he unaware that border police harass even tourists visiting Palestine, keeping them for over 4 hours. The Israelis will go to any length to ostracise the Palestinians.
Israel has become a disgrace to humanity!
paul valletta
May 2nd 2010, 10:47
israel and palestina they must be ashamed , you will never going to find peace in your souls and your country if you are not going to forget the differences that exists between you . please do something if not for you for your children , we want to see your children happy playing on tv and not throwing stones or with machine guns in their hands .
PLEASE LETS WORK FOR PEACE AND NOT WAR .
C Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 10:45
What do you expect him to say!!
Israel and its people are the cause of most of the recent (when i say recent I mean last 50 year) wars and issues that have happened in this world ... they are an illegal nation taking over space within another country illegally and now, even worse, encroaching into their neighbours territory ...
We do not send people to Afghanistan because they are at war with themselves ... unfortunately these protests by brave people who have the courage to stand up to Israeli arrogance is futile since they are backed by the USA who use Israel as a base in the region to keep a lookout onto the Arab world ... until this situation stops we can forget peace in the middle east (or the rest of the world for that matter)
Jimmy Magro
May 2nd 2010, 10:44
Mr. Ambassador: disputed borders for you as you want to continue to expand your territory every day. You are bound by zionist policies and you cannot accept that even the Un has condemned Israel many times to return to its original borders.
Many Israeli wants peace and only a handful of mentally sick zionists that put pressure on the Israeli Government to continue to expand your territory. The Palestinians have offered you more than once their leaf of olive but Israel always rejected this as you are blackmailed by the small parties to remain in power. I am more than certain that if Israel had to accept the Un resolutions peace will be found immediately.
There are no excues for your actions You cannot continue to build more houses in Palestinian land because you have military power paid out by American taxes. Make peace with your heart and accept the two state solution today and not tomorrow.
It is useless to blame others whn the fault is totally that of israel and the minorities parties that cannot accept that Israel has to contain itself to the land established by the foundation of the state of Israel.
m.chetcuti
May 2nd 2010, 10:38
The ambassador is 100% right his message is simple, Protesting in the buffer zone you are a treat as in every buffer zone in the world. And that Israelis are not against the Palestinian people but against Hamas. So why you here in Malta that you are pro Palestinian never condemn Hamas, these thugs of Hamas when shown on TV elate when a suicide bomber blasts himself and they parade children wearing like soldiers holding AK 47s, they execute there own citizens which want a change which by the way are the true Heroes of this conflict. Therefore how can Israel or any other country can ever think of start negotiating with these medieval minds.
MSciberras
May 2nd 2010, 10:38
The ambassador is right. How about The Times telling us something about the International Solidarity Movement? As for Bianca Zammit, well she was / is a graffiti activist. Enough said. The Maltese govt reaction to this was political. Now move on.
Joe Grima
May 2nd 2010, 10:37
You are looking at one of the worst ambassadors Malta has ever had the misfortune to experinece.Meir struts like a cowboy His arrogance may please the right-wing hawks in Tel Aviv, which is probably the audience he wants to address at our expense, but to civilised Europeans , and certainly to most Maltese, his statements are unacceptable. The sooner Meir is relieved of his position the better for the state of Israel
D. Cachia
May 2nd 2010, 10:34
A couple of points:
I never thought I would say this, but the Ambassador is right. Not that I necessarily think Hamas is in the wrong, but one must be extremely naive not to think that in a sensitive issue like this human rights groups will not be puppeteered by political groups like Hamas.
Secondly, when we have so many problems at home - why go meddle in others' affairs? What does the Palestinian cause mean to us? We sure find it unjust but other than that it is simply not our fight.
Thirdly, it would seem to me that a certain painter from Austria who lived a long time ago is being proved right after all, time and time again.
Paul Smith
May 2nd 2010, 10:33
Gideon Meir really is a peace of work isn't he! I have been in his country around 15 times. I was even a Kibbutz volunteer and worked on an Israeli moshav. It is an apartheid state 100%.
I wonder how many Palestinians he has shot during his many years of military service, i bet he took great pleasure in it as well. What's going to be interesting is when the Israeli war machine grinds to a halt a decade or more from now due to a lack of fuel due to the end of the oil age.
I guess the Palestinians will have to wait a little longer to exact there revenge
Rocco Cauchi
May 2nd 2010, 10:32
By coincidence, a very interesting interview is carried in today's Observer with the tank commander who later directed the film "Lebanon". It speaks of the emotional breakdown Israeli soldiers like himself pass through after having gone through the vicissitudes of war and killing one person.
It certainly proves Mr. Ambassador partly right while showing that there is an element of embedded fear and self-defence within us. This notwithstanding, in the last analysis, we are all humans and harbor a craving for peace within us.
The article may be seen at http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/may/02/israel-lebanon-samuel-maoz-tanks
Joe Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 10:30
what a buffoon this guy is!
Maybe he is not aware that Israeli police 'pick on' tourists visiting Palestine. Friends of mine were held for 4 hours at the boarder control by police who were doing nothing but taking the Mickey! My friends were all Europeans. This is an obvious ploy to harass the Palestinians and anyone coming in contact with them.
Hamas? What about the shooting of innocent Palestinian children who are put down like stray cats? Israel has become disgrace to humanity! Unless these people change their ways,they will always attract disdain from the non-American community!
Dr Sonia Pace Balzan
May 2nd 2010, 10:30
The ambassador is right 100%. what a shame on us! our reputation is at stake with such people! I am still wondering if by any chance Bianca Zammit is either Palestinian or Maltese? If she 's the latter she should be ashamed for her self! We are hut- she hurt our nation. We cannot go into this- this is not our problem. We do not want to collaborate with terrorist movement Hamas! we expect Ms Zammit to apologise to our country! We want to make a good name of us not to depict our islands that way!
Mario Tabone-Vassallo
May 2nd 2010, 10:26
Ghandi hafna hbieb Lhud u naqsam maghhom hafna hsibijiet u twemmin. L-ghar haga li qatt sehhet ghall-Lhud kienet il-mixja zijonista li ftit ftit bidlet lil dawk moghmija biha fl-Izrajel, f'mera ta' l-isterjotipa oxxena li dejjem kasbruhom biha: hattafa, giddieba, bla qalb. Imnalla li ghad fadal kotra ikbar Lhud, uhud fl-Izrajel u hafna iktar barra mad-dinja, li huma nies sewwa u mill-iprem. Bizzejjed tara kif dawk minnhom li thabbu u ndiehsu mar-regim razzista fis-Sudafrika, bhalissa qed johduha kontra l-imhallef Lhudi Goldstone li xela l-ghemil fahxi ta' l-Izrajel f'Gaza, sa waslu juzaw ir-religjon, il-Barmitszvah ta' neputih, b'mod politiku. Ma ninsewx li x-xhieda hi li l-Izrajel kien imdahhal fl-isvilupp tal-bomba nuklejari Sudafrikana. Ghidli ma min taghmilha u nghidlek x'int. Sur Vella-Zarb, il-min ma jafx hallieh ipeclaq. Il-vojt dejjem jirbombja iktar.
Joe Fenech
May 2nd 2010, 11:06
You are right. Zionist Israel has made the Israeli Jews into the most hated people on earth.
William P Flynn
May 2nd 2010, 10:25
What a snow job! Don't send your children to the fields of the Palestinian farmers...er the combat zone. It's a dangerous place...why?...because Israel made it dangerous.
Good one. They steal someone's country and create a new border; and on top of that a no-go zone denying Palestinians the tilling of their soil to at least grow some food.
If they complain, they will be shot in the fields which the thief turned into a "combat zone".
Palestinians according to this man shouldn't fight back or complain.
Demonstrate in Israel, he says. I'd like to see these poor Palestinians trying to get across and past the border guards. And how are they going to get to the Israeli cities? They would be eaten alive.
What dishonest one sided rubbish. What a snake oil salesman this diplomat is.
John Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 10:18
Lenin, who Bianca Zammit and her pals at Graffiti evidently admire had a term to describe their ilk: "Useful Idiots".
It is part of Hamas's and other terrorist organisations' strategy to make the most out of these useful idiots that sadly proliferate the western world. you think Hamas actually care about you Bianca??? To them it is a pity that you did not return home in a body bag - so that they can gloat in their publicity scoop of another "shadid" in order to perpetuate their doctrine of Hate.
The moral of this incident should be that spoilt, western children - who admire communist tyrants and mass murderers should refrain from interfering in issues that probably they do not comprehend in their simplistic minds. Actions have consequences - and stupid actions have grave ones.
A. Dimech
May 2nd 2010, 10:17
He is right? How can you even have the guts to say he is right?
So you are agreeing with him that the Maltese citizens that help Palestine and its people are automatically labelled as terrorists?
This is just intolerable. Someone from the international community really needs to take a stand against such Israeli arrogance. Contrary to what they believe they are not the center of the world!!!
malcolm seychell
May 2nd 2010, 10:16
He is 100% right.
Bianca should thank god she is still alive.
Eric Camilleri
May 2nd 2010, 10:11
Activists have a right to go where they want, combat zones included, but as the Israeli Ambassador correctly stated then activists shouldn't complain about the dangerous risks.
m.chetcuti
May 2nd 2010, 10:10
I tell the Maltese goverment and therefore my goverment to be EXTRA careful and not to be dragged by the pro Hamas here in Malta and and not be one sided in this conflict.Our goverment should be careful not to damage the good ties between Israel . First and foremost we Maltese should care about our interests, which means good ties with countries which we can benefit from such as Israel (tourism/technology/security). I stick with the proverbial saying GHAMILA MA MIN U AHJAR MINNEK
David Wain
May 2nd 2010, 10:09
Fact is that any human life, except that of a Jew, is easily disposable to them.... an inherent superiority complex.
S Gauci
May 2nd 2010, 15:59
Mr Wain, and to you, it seems, the human lives of Jews seem easily disposable. And you reflect the attitude of the international community that the ambassador is talking about. If Israel doesn't care for the lives of their citizens, nobody will.
victor caruana
May 2nd 2010, 10:05
What a load of rubbish. Hamas plant bombs and Israel fires missiles on Palestinians, when not phosphorous. I would rather hear his excuses if members of his family are shot at.
Josef Laspina
May 2nd 2010, 10:03
The Maltese people must learn how to stand on their two feet, without allowing foreigners bringing enjoyable division - and this is our curse - cause it is either england or italy - the eu or libya - palestine or israel - who gives two d... about them build our own industry and ignore foreign money or remain cursed.
M. Abela
May 2nd 2010, 10:01
K.Spiteri, are you a member of Hamas??? you sound so sure that he is right......ghalaq halqek la ma tafx!!! ghax minn ikun fil borma ikun jaf x`fiha!!! no one should shoot to anyone unarmed!!! when are we going to see Palestine on the map again,as it was from the beginning?!
t. borg
May 2nd 2010, 09:56
charity begins at home and people like bianca zammit should have protested in tripoli where maltese workers were not allowed to enter libya for work. i know who had lost his job for this reason.
Joe Cassar
May 2nd 2010, 09:56
A vile and shocking accusation by the Ambassador
Probably defamatory and actionable as well, but he hides behind his diplomatic immunity.
His attitude, if it is typical of Isralei thinking, goes a long way to explain why there never seems to be any progress in the peace negotiations
Tony Gatt
May 2nd 2010, 11:02
Par for the course from the Israelis- anyone looking for their civil rights is ipso facto a terrorist.
Arthur Ellul
May 2nd 2010, 09:55
is this guy implying we are terrorists?
Do we send murder squads to other countries to target politicians of opposing parties to gun them down, like the incident outside the hotel on the Sliema promenade some years back?
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, please summon this ambassador to further clarifications on what he stated? otherwise revoke his diplomatic credentials!!!
We are not terrorrists, nor murderers,
g.c.Forte
May 2nd 2010, 11:51
Arthur Ellul... What this guy is trying to say is..............." Tindahlux fejn ma jesakhomx " jew bil pulit " Tithlux bejn il basla u qoxrita ghax tohorgu b`rihitha " jew " min jikriha irid jghoqod ghaliha ". EZEMPJU ...Jien meta kienu jilghabu il Belt u il Furjana qatt ma kontx niehu it tfal mieghi, ghax kont nobsor li ser ikun hemm l-inkwiet. Meta qlajna xebgha gebel kien it tort taghna,ghax morna ninbxu lil tal Furjana. Kumbinazzjoni kienu u ghadhom isejhulna tal Palestina............Tafu ghalhiex ?
g.c.Forte
May 2nd 2010, 09:54
" He urges the Maltese parents to bar their children from going to war zones, even if they believe they are fighting for a just cause " This makes a lot of sense, and this goes to those soldiers that are volunteering to go to action in Somalia.
Joseph Buhagiar
May 2nd 2010, 11:59
There is a huge difference between a civilian and a soldier.
g.c.Forte
May 2nd 2010, 13:31
Joseph Buhagair....... I have my doubts if a soldier will be officially and legally covered when VOLUNTEERING to a mission in another country. If not, and something will happen to any of them {God forbid } I do not know if they or their families will have the right to any compensation.Let us not forget that by this time, a family is passing trough hard times after an incident were a soldier lost his life, and it was just here in MALTA I am coming to this conclusion, for the simple reason,why they ARE NOT DETAILED, as normal soldiers. I have always been thought that in the service, never volunteer, not even to get your pay. There is another matter that is puzzling me. Soldiers which are serving in Somalia, even if they are officially detailed ,they are violating our Constitution where it is clearly stated that " Malta is a neutral state actively pursuing peace,security and social progress among all nations by adhering to non-alignment and REFUSING TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY MILITARY ALLIANCE " Chapter 1 Article 3. Maybe that is why they are using " On voluntary basis. "
wally vella-zarb
May 2nd 2010, 09:49
What an arrogant and insulting comment! But then, what else can one expect from the official representative of a chronically warmongering state that continues to expand its flexible borders onto Palestinian land?
Alex Ellul
May 2nd 2010, 10:09
If the truth is insulting, so be it, but the truth is the truth and there are no two ways about it. Israel has the right to exist, protect itself from terrorists and the ambassoador must rest assured that the silent majority of the Maltese understand hat he's saying. We pray for peace in the world and not only in Isael and Palestine, but some people have been so much inebriated with left-wing ideologies that support eveil, that they think that terrorism is good and that the right to defend oneself is bad.
If one were to read history since 1945 one would understand the truth and that the current middle east situation was precipitated by Arab intrancigence. If the Arabs had accepted the state of Israel way back in 1948 then the Palestinains would have had their rightful state since that time. This does not of course justify any wrongdoings by Israel, but surely Israel would not have turned itself into a military giant to protect itself from a billion people wishing its destruction. Wait a few years when Iran would have the 'BOMB', then we will be on the edge of nuclear precipice. May God help us all.
Steve Demicoli
May 2nd 2010, 10:57
Fully agree with your statement. It would have been nice to ask Mr ambassador to back his statements ie. that Ms Zammit was 'sent by Hamas' to 'threaten a diplomatic incident' with conclusive and / or convincing evidence.
Using this tone, he almost wanted to accuse Ms Zammit, by way of her 'International Solidarity Movement affiliation' of being an accessory to 'planting bombs at the Israeli border' !!
Of course 'You don’t send your people to places like Afghanistan' but a Maltese citizen is always a Maltese citizen, wherever s/he goes and is always our Maltese sister! Shame on those whose loyalty to the Israelis through their propaganda machine surpasses that for their compatriots!
He also had the cheek to say he 'expected western governments to also be sensitive to Israelis who are being killed by Palestinians' - for continuing to occupy their land, he forgot to add. That is the problem, the Israeli propaganda machine has made Western Govts too sensitive to Jewish so-called 'suffering'
Throughout history, who has killed most civilians, Israel or the rightful dwellers of Palestine?
Sergio Caruana
May 2nd 2010, 12:04
Alex Ellul would you agree if I come and take your property and chuck you out, kill your family and then if you protest I shoot you?
Sergio Caruana
May 2nd 2010, 12:06
Alex Ellul and the others agreeing with the Israeli ambassador, who is paying you, Israel's Mossad or the USA?
S Gauci
May 2nd 2010, 15:54
@ Sergio Caruana -
Noone is paying us, just our own reasoned judgement.
K.Spiteri
May 2nd 2010, 09:38
sorry to say so, but he is right, full stop.
Paul Barrett
May 2nd 2010, 09:47
Agreed 100%
joseph zammit
May 2nd 2010, 09:49
Fully agree with you K Spiteri,
One reservation... Not sorry to say so!!!!
Tony Caruana
May 2nd 2010, 09:54
Agree as well. She had no place to be there.
Martin Frendo
May 2nd 2010, 09:59
totally agree with Ambassador's comments - not against any pro palestinian groups - protesting in that manner will not gather any sympathy -
Edric Micallef Figallo
May 2nd 2010, 10:08
Well said.
mary Pace
May 2nd 2010, 10:13
I agree with you all,FULL STOP!!!!!
G. Mangion
May 2nd 2010, 10:25
Israeli Ambassador to Malta Gideon Meir is right end of the story.
in a humor way , does the ambassador know that the Valletta F.C football fans are nicknamed Tal - Palestina ?
Joseph Buhagiar
May 2nd 2010, 11:58
I agree 100% with Spiteri's comment.
It is their war, they should fight their own wars. Bianca Zammit should have never been there in the first place.
When Che Guevara an Argentinian wanted to spread his revolution to the Congo. Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser, who had fraternal relations with Che dating back to his 1959 visit, saw Guevara's plans to fight in the Congo as "unwise" and warned that he would become a "Tarzan" figure, doomed to failure.
Despite the warning Che went there to fight a war that was someone else's and failed miserably.
One lesson needs to be learnt from here. If one seeks danger this is what he gets.
Joseph A Borg
May 3rd 2010, 09:00
What's this? the list of comments supporting yours make me think of a concerted effort at influencing public opinion.
Is this the famed megaphone in action?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool
go astroturf somewhere else pls.
R Borg
May 3rd 2010, 19:02
I was very surprised at how many people agree with the ambassador's comments. What do you mean she wasn't supposed to be there in the first place? She was interested in what happens outside of tiny peaceful Malta and wanted to be an active citizen of the world. What is it with this ancient Maltese mentality to be only preoccupied of our own country. There is a rest of the world out there ready to be explored by those people who are passionate enough to do so. If she was shot while doing so, she obviously knew the risks when she entered a war zone but to condem her on the basis of being strong willed and of holding an opinion is just wrong. People who travel as I am sure most of you have done, know that it is a life changing experience especially going to countries like these as an activist.
Again I disagree with the ambassador's comments and I would add that a diplomat like himself should know better then just accusing people of being affiliated with Hamas, just because they have a different point of view
Christian Sciberras
May 4th 2010, 11:25
Unlike what you're implying, the ambassador did not say "mind your on business" but rather "be safe".
Quoting him again, he said, protest from a safe distance, such as your country.