Update 2: Stormy KSU meeting gets nowhere
The annual general meeting of the University Student Council (KSU) which was meant to discuss the electoral system for University student council elections got bogged down in technicalities this afternoon and was frequently interrupted by shouting and the trading of insults.
The meeting, meant to start at Noon was postponed until 12.35 for a quorum, however by 3.15 nothing conclusive had been reached - with disagreement even on the agenda.
Officials of SDM and Pulse - the rival political organisations, argued over the number of people going in and out of the room since a 50+1 majority was needed for for the agenda to be changed. There were various objections from both sides, with the room erupting into shouting every time the door was opened.
The burning issue in this meeting was meant to be the electoral reform proposed by Pulse which would mean there would be proportional representation in the student council.
As the electoral system stands, candidates from the students' group which gets the most votes gets elected en bloc, even if a particular candidate for a post gets more votes than the candidate in the team with wins most votes.
On Monday, Pulse submitted amendments for the KSU statute to implement a mixed-member proportional representative electoral system.
Members of Pulse and Graffiti later protested to the chair that efforts were being done to derail the debate on the electoral reform.
At about 3.30 pm, with no progress having been made, the Pulse representatives walked out in protest.
PULSE STATEMENT
Pulse in a statement said it was disappointed at what happened at the meeting.
"Democracy fell short as the AGM’s procedure was not duly followed. The AGM, as the highest organ within the KSU structure, failed to respect the KSU statute itself, which safeguards the decision of the students’ vote.
After considerable efforts to keep order, it became apparent that a mature discussion was unattainable. This forced Pulse representatives, amongst others, to abandon the meeting and withdraw their motion," the student organisation said.
It accused SDM of ridiculing the democratic rights of students.
"They prefer to spend five hours discussing if the AGM should commence or not, instead of discussing what truly affects the well-being of both the council and the student electorate."
On the other hand, Pulse goes further to question whether decisions taken in this AGM should stand to be recognised.
Pulse said it condemned all behaviour which was disrespectful and intolerant towards different opinions.
SDM REACTION
SDM in another statement said it condemned the hostile and insulting attitude of some members of Pulse, Graffitti and Move. This attitude, it said, which was neither moderate, nor progressive.
The SDM said Pulse had not achieved the required two-thirds majority needed to suspend the agenda so that its motion could be discussed. The sitting then had to be suspended because of rowdy behaviour by the members of Pulse and Graffitti, who expected to have the right to dictate what the Chair should do.
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Luke Frendo
Mar 21st 2010, 19:58
If Estonia can use an ONLINE VOTING system to determine the outcome of a general election, surely the KSU elections can be held online.
Without a doubt, it will lead to more people voting, renewed interest, and ultimately a stronger and more relevant KSU.
Alex Cuta Cutajar
Mar 20th 2010, 11:44
@ Christian Sciberras
Truly, there are many ways to 'play' online. But I believe university technicians know the right security ;)
Jesmond Zerafa
Mar 19th 2010, 22:25
Studenti undemokristjani Maltin are afraid of losing their power. The only thing that keeps them alive... kull ma ghandu hu l-ghatx ghal poter, xi haga li missha ilha li nqatat fil ksu. kif jista kunsill ikun raprezentattiv baqda wahda tiddominah ghal 36 sena? rajna bic car fil kas tac censura dan kien student universitarju. Minalija anka lKSJC semma lehnu imma lksu????????? rieqed.
Grow up
RAY SPITERI
Mar 19th 2010, 16:45
SDM is afraid of PULSE being elected. HA HA HA.
R.SPITERI
J.M Camilleri
Mar 19th 2010, 16:10
I attended this AGM and I can assure that the meeting was progressing well until the ''Sedia" manipulated and diverted the agenda. I also cant understand how such an important meeting is always held in the relatively small common room. The AGM should be held in SIr Temi Zammit hall, since it provides ample space and it would be easer to count the votes.
Anthony Grech
Mar 19th 2010, 13:11
So nice to see our best and brightest folloowing in the foot steps of theirs elders. Are we actually incapable of having a civil discussion about anything here? Even at the University where we hope to be educating the the leaders of tomorrow we have to fight. Why isn't that we Maltese can not deal with each other in a mature way? Shame on everyone of you who where there and thought it better to act like babies rather than resposible adults. If you want to run Malta further into the ground then conthinue with your current behavour. Do you want to live in a Malta as currupt and disfunctional as it is now? You are the hope of hte future, so why not stop this stupidity now and grow up.
Jonathan Galea
Mar 19th 2010, 15:13
I agree with you Mr.Grech, but I wonder what you would do if your right to vote was taken away from you unjustly? That is what happened in this KSU... or, to be more precise, SDM did not accept the vote that was taken democratically. Pulse pushed for a change in the agenda so as to discuss the more pressing issue first (that of the electoral reform), but we were denied the opportunity to do so, even though we had obtained the majority...
A.Gauci Cunningham
Mar 19th 2010, 11:46
I have as yet to read one single convincing argument from an SDM member. An argument that would convince me and most of those who aren't Uni students why they are opposing such reform.
Alex Cuta Cutajar
Mar 19th 2010, 11:46
@ Luke Frendo. I agree with online voting, but i don't agree to remove JC from the elections.
It's the UNIVERSITY OF MALTA JUNIOR COLLEGE. KSU can also control it, altough there is the KSJC.
Fortunately, the KSJC is at a same level playin field, where the two organisations can reach.
Unlike the KSU.. where 1 out of 30+ organisations can reach...
Christian Sciberras
Mar 19th 2010, 16:26
Online voting? You're kidding right?
If not, let me just say that there are a lot of ways to "play" online...
Tyson Fenech - PULSE President
Mar 19th 2010, 11:28
(part 2/2) Then a special advisor (who is no longer a student) popped up as an observer and tried to dictate what ought to take place. Due to the irregularities going on and as the matter got out of hands I decided to withdraw the motion because it defeated the whole purpose and the motive behind having an open and mature discussion. There were mudslinging and disrespectful comments being passing round and I personally condemn such behaviour. After we left the chairperson suspended the meeting however those few left (around 50) had decided to continue and despite I had withdrew the motion (as seen in the clip) they still discussed it. I can’t understand what sort of discussion was there but they surely agreed to disagree with it.
The motion was withdrew and we do not agree how those left manipulated the meeting and decided to vote on the motion. Surely, this proves how SDM used undemocratic tactics and was in a state of mayhem. We do not agree with the vote taken as the motion was withdrawn. In the coming days we will continue with our campaign and we will push forward our proposal.
Tyson Fenech - PULSE President
Mar 19th 2010, 11:25
(part 1/2) STOP this mudslinging attack on PULSE’s political neutrality. It seems that particular SDM/KSU bloggers are trying to diverge the readers’ attention!
The motion which we presented meant that a proportional representation electoral mechanism would be implemented in order to widen student participation and representation. However, the Christian Democrats declined such a proposal similarly used for the local council elections because they say it’s a “popularity contest”. On the contrary, we believe that the students are politically mature to take the right decision and to work together for a common goal.
SDM did not respect the will of the majority present in the room and was succumbed to panic and fear that the motion would pass. They desperately agreed to suspend the meeting for 30mins to mobilize a larger crowd because the motion would have passed. Upon returning back a group of students popped up and flood the room. What’s worrying is that amongst those present were individuals who were no longer students and who were not registered! Upon asking to register those present there was a huge opposition from some SDM members stating that it would pro-long the meeting and it wouldn’t make a difference.
L. Caruana
Mar 19th 2010, 11:10
I am literally disgusted at the way AGM was conducted.
I believe that the University of Malta is the Highest Institution of Education.
Despite this, people still couldn't help but acting immaturely, and I can't seem to udnerstand why is this so.
In my opinion, SDM acted in an immature way.
It seemed like Matthew Vella wasn't so sure about his position as one minute he said that AGM was suspended and the next,
he continued as if nothing had happened.He retreated for the pressure of the SDM officials who did not want to respect the decision.
A point that i would like to clarify is that Pulse is not affiliated with any poltiical parties especialli the PL.
Yes, I am in favour of democracy.
SDM's slogan states: "It's all about you" but what does this "you" really mean? Is it us Students? Or is it themselves?
A questions that a lot of people used to ask before was of why were SDM afarid of proportinal representation.
C.R. Taliana
Mar 19th 2010, 07:43
Min dik l-età juruk kemm marbutin mas-siggu! Keep it Up Pulse, forsi mhux din is-sena, mhux li gejja u min jaf meta, imma l-forti li bnew l-SDM matul is-snin ftit ftit jibda jaqa.
Jonathan Galea
Mar 19th 2010, 11:17
The only thing we are hoping for is that students finally open their eyes and see that they are being manipulated... it is high time that they wake up and decide that their voices need to be heard more, because THEY should decide who should represent them and... I do not need to continue this sentence.
Alex Cuta Cutajar
Mar 19th 2010, 00:12
Jien membru fl-ghaqda PULSE, u attiv hafna. Shabi foshtom membri li dahhalt fl-ghaqda kolla gejjin min famijli nazzjonalisti. Dawn ma ghazlux Pulse ghalxejn. Ghazluwa ax hija ghaqda studenteska ghall KULHADD, u ma tahdem ma l'ebda partit!
Bhala ghaqda, dik qeda l-wahda mill-ewwel affarijiet fl-istatut tal-ghaqda
Muscat Pat
Mar 18th 2010, 23:42
So SDM is the organization that represents PN democratic credentials at the University? What hypocrisy!
Alex Cutajar
Mar 18th 2010, 22:57
It is in the PULSE statue, PULSE is an INDEPENDENT organisation
Andrew Callus
Mar 18th 2010, 22:35
Well yesterday I was proven that KSU is non Democratic apart from non Representative....I was present during the Annual General Meeting and, although both parts where shouting, I could feel arrogance coming out from the SDM members, and a sense of elitism.
As a University student who is interested in student politics, I'm utterly disgusted with the way the AGM ended, where the SDM members even contested the power of the Chairman, who later succummbed to their will and havoc was seen. To worsen things an individual was claimed to be a non student by PULSE supporters and later claimed to be an observer with no justification at all.....
About this SDM-PN and PULSE-PL, all I can say is that from Junior College, I met many Nationalists which are members of PULSE, even members of the KSJC of 3 years ago which are my great friends....I don't think if Pulse is a PL organization these persons would still support PULSE. To be honest it is much easier to find Nationalists supporting Pulse than Labourites supporting SDM.
Isn't it our right to be properly represented ?! why do we always turn to partisan politics ?
Mercieca F
Mar 18th 2010, 21:45
Can somebody from the SDM enlighten us on what the D stands for please
M Saliba
Mar 18th 2010, 21:02
I am in favour of democracy where the minorities are given a say, without having to scream.
Alex Cutajar
Mar 18th 2010, 22:40
Pulse does not scream if it is given a right to talk, and show proposals. SDM simply did not accept the proposal, and the AGM was a total disaster
Jean Carl Grech
Mar 18th 2010, 20:59
The ksu lost its credibility - let me show you why.
When a vote was taken regarding the agenda the results were these : 62 in favour, 143 against and some that did not vote therefore there were more than 2/3 of the people that voted against. The agenda was not approved. You should have seen Karl Grech and Mr. Balzan's face at that moment..... they started to phone people to come and immediately wanted the door open. A lot of people came in - others that got fed up with the buraucracy of SDM/KSU left. The people changed. Some that were not even students entered the room... even tried to start a quarrel by their vulgar words....
Responsably and Maturely Pulse Graffiti and other members left the AGM (something one might want to admire).
These people are representing the students.... BUT DO THE STUDENTS WANT THEM TO REPRESENT THEM? when each year almost 3/4 of the students do not vote? or is it this way that SDM want the elections to be ? so that they won't lose their power?
Joseph Camilleri
Mar 18th 2010, 20:35
After this experience I feel that my intelegence as a student was OFFENDED. I favoured the Pulse electoral reform as when i informed myself i got to know that it was much more Democratic than the present system. I feel offended with the bad language used by several students mostly SDM members but some of the others as well. The most thing i feel offended about is that the AGM (the highest student body of the KSU) Spent 5 HOURS discussing wether this AGM should continue or not. Secondly I also got informed that after pulse retired their motion the people left (less than 1/3 of the PEOPLE THAT VOTED AGAINST the Agenda) discussed and than voted for this system)
Be shy ksu.
You should resign.
Some of your members are not students at all.....
Ksu you are a representative only for those same few.
Ksu you are not representing the students.
Why are you in the Ksu?
The ksu is now a popularity contest..... So that its FEW members can name it in their CV....
Democratic???? No way
Jonathan Galea
Mar 18th 2010, 20:24
Quite frankly I was disgusted with the way it turned out! How could it be that a group of less than 100 decided for 10,000 students on who is to be elected on the KSU council board? How could it be that the motion presented by PULSE was still “discussed” after PULSE officials had decided to retrieve the motion on PR? What sort of discussion was there?
It’s clear that SDM fears further participation and representation and does not want to involve others in KSU! Who is this Angelo Micallef to challenge the Chairperson’s decision after he suspended the meeting after it had deteriorated? Well guess what you managed to give a stand up comedy show! This is disrespectful and we students feel offended!
Not to mention it is also laughable that they call themselves "Studenti Demokristjani" Get your priorities right.
John Zammit
Mar 18th 2010, 20:19
SDM is against Proportional Representation and against strengthening Democracy...pretty much you ought to change your name now to Studenti Dittatorjali Maltin! You could keep KSU to yourself however keep it in mind that you don’t have the support of the University Students! You have ridiculed the KSU statute and it is clear that you’re obsessed with power. KSU is detached from students and you’re not truly representing us! Your members sit there all day doing nothing and pretend to be the elite or the enlightened ones! The office is evacuated in order for SDM executive members to take over and work from there! This is repulsive and you’ve successfully managed to discredit KSU’s reputation! What’s even worse is that we have prominent SDM members who do not respect others opinion and spend hours blabbering about and shouting out loudly; “Alla hares jitlilaw dawk is-Socjalisti fil-KSU! Ma x’Biza! X’jghamlu! Jaqqqq!!” SDM ought to be discarded and thrown into political dustbin!
R Spagnol
Mar 18th 2010, 19:53
Matthew Abela,
Please wake up and smell the coffee. Pulse have consistently stressed that the reform would also involve the Junior College elections. Don't try to cling to the last pieces of straw to look good and hide the panic of having the "Kattoliċi ħafna" not electing all the eleven candidates to KSU.
Let me quote a particular member of SDM who signed a Facebook message as JPC:
"we need to vote against this proposal as in the end this would mean that SDM cannot get all the eleven seats in KSU as they have been doing for a long time."
Any different opinions now of why SDM are not even complying to the fundamental elements of their ideology?!
Matthew Abela
Mar 18th 2010, 22:19
To Spagnol,
We both know that "bejn il verita u il fatti hemm il bahar jikkumbatti", there were things which PULSE promised and guess what?? We both know the truth behind this motion, all you want is power.. I dont know if you are l-spagnol il-kbir jew iz-zghir, could you please specify which one you are? Another point is...why now and not BEFORE the KSJC election??
Matthew Abela
Alex Cutajar
Mar 20th 2010, 13:10
@ Matthew Abela
In the Junior College, there are only 2 organisations, and you can never say that one of them is winning by loads that the other can never be in the KSJC. In other words, in the Junior College, the situation is at a "same level playing field".
If Pulse wanted power, than pulse would turn up with candidates for the next election, with the motion. But CLEARLY this is not for the benefit of PULSE, but to any other organisation that feels that it should be represented.
According to how the AGM turned out, it clearly shows us, that SDM want the KSU for only themselves, and ONLY themselves. They do not want any organisation to interfere with them, and they are afraid of any Competition.
No Council is effective if there is no competiton. What are SDM afraid of, if they have nothing to lose? In this way KSU is always their's.
Marc Vella Bonnici
Mar 18th 2010, 18:55
Why are SDM saying that pulse did not achieve 2/3rd of the votes to suspend the agenda when a vote was taken on the agenda using the 50+1 system and pulse won the vote?
the agenda was suspended and that was the moment when sdm realised that pulse had the majority and started arguing that the agenda proposed by pulse should be voted upon using the 2/3rd system.
Quite funny how SDM do not even know what was being discuessed during the meeting. this is quite obvious from the statement that they released. I would not be surprised at all if even the minutes of the 'meeting' where not correct.
quite funny how
A.Gauci Cunningham
Mar 18th 2010, 17:32
Why didn't SDM go on miriam Dalli's TX? Don't they have arguments good enough to rebut on TV?
Thea Mizzi
Mar 18th 2010, 17:28
ghalfejn ha tibqaw tghidu li l-PULSE parti mil-Labour?? naf hafna nies li huma hbieb tieghi u huma membri tal PULSE izda iqisu ruhhom nazzjonalisti. Nemmen li din il-proposta kella tigi accettata, jekk hu veru li l-SDM ghandhom il maggoranza assoluta fl- Universita, mela allura il-maggoranza xorta ha tibqa taghhom u fl-ahhar mil ahhar fl- universita mux PULSE u SDM biss hemm, ma ghandhomx dritt l-istudenti jigu rraprezentati min nies li huma tal- istess ideat u principji? B'din il proposta ma jfissirx li l-PULSE ser tiehu il- "poter" anzi jidependi mil- istudenti min imexxihom. jidispjacini nghid imma tridu tohorgu mil idea li kollo idur mal PN u PL, ahna l istudenti irridu niraprezentaw lilna nfusna u xejn iktar.
N8 P91
Mar 18th 2010, 17:18
If you really were democtratic, then you would have dealt with us regarding the 'Enhacing Your Rights, Fulfilling Your Duties' propose. But SDM officials did everything they could in order to ruine this propose. In fact one can conclude that SDM's main aim is to keep ruling University and ruining student's life. And they're proud to say that they're Democratic. In fact they're not Democtratic at all.
N8 P91
Mar 18th 2010, 17:16
If you really were democtratic, then you would have dealt with us regarding the 'Enhacing Your Rights, Fulfilling Your Duties' propose. But SDM officials did everything they could in order to ruine this propose. In fact one can conclude that SDM's main aim is to keep ruling University and ruining student's life. And they're proud to say that they're Democratic. In fact they're not Democtratic at all.
G.Schembri
Mar 18th 2010, 16:05
@ John Sevasta - And you call yourself DEMOKRISTJAN.
"As for those who do not afford it, well, that is not our business." Where does the teaching of Christ teach you such attitudes?
You only use the word DemoKristjani to sound religous but you are anything but Christians.
John Farrugia
Mar 18th 2010, 15:53
In this meeting, everybody seemed to have a few sticks shoved in inappropriate orifices...No sense of comprehension whatsoever.
John Farrugia
Mar 18th 2010, 15:45
This is very troublesome stuff, very troublesome indeed...The motives for these meetings are not to resolve issues, just as the motives for mass meetings are not a way of getting a message across which would be listened to. The motives for these things is to put on a show, and these students have done very well. Very well indeed, and I give them my congratulations.
John Sevasta
Mar 18th 2010, 13:46
@ Albert Borg
You keep your no noble ideals to yourself. I keep voting PN because they are the party who ensure that the well being is here at any cost. Let those who afford it enjoy it. As for those who do not afford it, well, that is not our business.
Luke Frendo
Mar 18th 2010, 13:12
Same old, same old. This saga has gone on for as long as I can remember. They are both wrong and responsible for the mess that is KSU. KSU, as a result of this short-sighted bickering, has become a weak and irrelevant institution. It should not be about proportional representation, or winner-takes-all....the system should be designed to elect the most capable individuals, regardless of what logo there happens to be beside their name on the ballot sheet. In national politics, where the governing party lies on the political spectrum is extremely relevant, because it (should) affect its position on things like social welfare, economic policy, taxation etc. But with KSU's mandate, it is all but irrelevant.
Two simple suggestions that would go a long way towards improving the system are: 1. Introduce online voting (everyone knows that the only people who bother leaving home to vote are those that only care about the logo); 2. Remove Junior College from having anything to do with KSU elections (what do they have to do with it?...other than, of course, being convenient and easy 'logo' votes).
A. Mifsud
Mar 18th 2010, 13:11
and this is why I never vote for KSU elections....what a shame!!
Kevin Sammut
Mar 18th 2010, 13:07
So this the future of our country! If you ask me they are all a bunch of clowns. SDM , PULSE and Graffiti grow up , I pay my taxes so you get a good education not to act like idiots.
c.caruana
Mar 18th 2010, 13:07
Being left winger just makes us proud, always and forever. We are those rfghting for democracy at university while the christian democrats are working day and night to maintain their power with every means possible!! We may lose, but we will never give up!!
Hasta la victoria siempre!!
Christian Sciberras
Mar 18th 2010, 13:01
This brings to question the level of education at the university.
As much as I see it, it's just another Maltese lunacy/stereotype.
Then we get people scoffing that UoM is the best university in Europe.
Not to rant against the University anymore than it deserves, but people should grow more conscious about what is happening outside these islands.
C.camilleri
Mar 18th 2010, 12:44
Why are the SDM scared stiff of electoral changes? Are'nt you supported by the party who boost with every breath they take that they are the champions of change?
Paroli SI Fatti No.
Cowards.
Albert Borg
Mar 18th 2010, 12:22
@ Mr Sevasta
it is utterly disgusting to hear people like you speak of such rogue ideals where you believe that you have the 'right' to anything without ever having done anything in the first place! these ideals are the cancer tormenting our society for if you believe that people should simply bow their heads and accept their fates, you can take a brief look at man's history for ample proof of how wrong you are.
if you believe the poverty line is not the truth i warmly invite you to take a look around the many voluntary centres who daily help these people, not to mention hundreds who are too ashamed of their condition to ask for help. if you believe that you have no duties towards the rest of society (for it's a society not a hierarchy!) then you have no place in it to begin with.
Mark-Anthony Fenech
Mar 18th 2010, 15:04
it's called sarcasm...
John Sevasta
Mar 18th 2010, 11:51
@ Kevin Borg
After 20 years of Socialism we had many people having their own house for peanuts, a high standard of living with the lower classes at the expense of us, the traditionally higher classes,
Now after a number of years with the Nats, we upper class people have again achieved the superiority we had. Even the Arcchbishop is now siding with the Labour Party and he is echoing this farce of the poverty line. The rich were heavily taxed under the Labour Party to improve the plight of the lower classes. This is what we all hate. We, the high class should remain where we are, and the lower class people should work at our conditions for a living. What right have these to bridge the gap?
Joseph A Borg
Mar 18th 2010, 12:49
your sarcasm is dripping from the screen down to my table… I'm saving some for later.
I agree with you, sort of. With a free health service, free tertiary education, don't you thing that we have better social mobility now than in the 60's? Mintoff's desperate measures in the 70's were necessary then during a global recession. Both parties should encourage their members to study for high paying skilled jobs and lift themselves out of poverty and further raise local productivity.
The safety net for those who fall dangerously close to the povertyline should be continually strengthened but nothing beats lifting yourself up to the best of your abilities.
James Cauchi
Mar 18th 2010, 11:23
Watching this clip gave me flashbacks of primary and secondary school.
Without taking the arguments posed into consideration I do feel that meetings like this would better be organized with the uncertain quality of participants in mind in future.
This kind of behaviour is best responded to with a five minute cooloff. Sadly necessary where maturity breaks down. Peer pressure will take care of the rest.
Mark Grech
Mar 18th 2010, 09:51
I agree with Pulse. The present system is not fair. I spent four years at University as a student and always voted Pulse but my vote was never represented in the KSU. It is high time that democracy takes place at University too. Should this have been in another University abroad, I am sure that the students will be in favour of democracy!
P Muscat
Mar 18th 2010, 09:44
The KSU is a joke. The majority of students might know it exists but few can tell you who its members are or what they are doing now. Some might describe the KSU members as PN people but most just don't care. Why should they?
Most people pass successfully through university without ever having anything to do with this useless group of so called representatives, except perhaps to get the parking permit sticker.
Matthew Abela
Mar 18th 2010, 08:56
Why did PULSE come up with this motion in the KSU??? Why not in the KSJC?? All PULSE want is power.. PULSE know they have the upper hand in the KSJC election (mind you by 7 votes in the President's post) , why did PULSE not come up with this motion for the KSJC AGM?? If PULSE and the other left-wingers want democracy they should have promised to change the KSJC stature aswell. In that case this year's KSJC elections would have been 3 SDM and 4 PULSE.. I would like a PULSE activist to answer this question as when i tried to ask all i got was" int ma l-SDM alekk injorant .. ahna fuq ta KSU qed nitkellmu " This is purely UNDEMOCRATIC...
Matthew Abela
PS I am not an SDM , PULSE or any other party member what so ever
A.Saliba
Mar 18th 2010, 18:58
You are very misguided Matthew, VERY!! whenever Pulse President spoke about this electoral reform he also said that if the system was implemented at University than yes Junior College will follow.
John O Scerri
Mar 18th 2010, 08:49
UOM : This is unfortunately one of THE places where polarisation is conceived and multiplied to become one of Malta's chronic illnesses.
From what I read it seems that those few who make the loudest noise are the ones who get the coverage . The silent thousands are never mentioned.
Certain people might not realise that their role and responsibility as parents did not stop when their sons and daughters entered higher education . Same goes for certain sons and daughters who refrain from their roles and responsabilities as members of a family. They think that whoever is not within their grasp is not part of society.
Let me just state that todays students should know how much wiser it is to learn how to listen well and then communicate one's opinion rather than use tactics in the form of what was exhibited yeasterday .
Today's students are tomorrows adults and many of them will have high rank roles in society . Diplomacy plays a huge role in the up bringing of our children.
John Caruana
Mar 18th 2010, 08:09
I would like to clarify the article submitted by the times that
"As the electoral system stands, candidates from the students' group which gets the most votes gets elected en bloc, even if a particular candidate for a post gets more votes than the candidate in the team with wins most votes."
If you actually bothered looking at the first past the post system ( which is used in many countries) you would know that this is not true.
If Candidate A from team X gets 200 votes and Candidate B from team Y gets 201 votes and the rest of the candidates where elected from team X Candidate B from team Y gets elected!
Pulse have never been elected because of the lack of strong and concrete proposals, not choosing a team of credibile people and for always wasting time on trying to invent some new electoral system to get themselves in KSU rather than working on how to improve student life. They Say they can improve student life by them being in KSU but they never told us how! Shame!
J Farrugia
Mar 18th 2010, 08:07
We all know what the organisation PULSE stands for. It is a labour party section and a strong forcina at that. Yes Pulse is a labour party organisation and acts like one.
C. Sapiano
Mar 18th 2010, 08:03
@Daniel Farrugia
Yes but that is how democracy works. Pulse cannot accept that they rarely win an election
@I Galea
Better Democracy? The left-wing cannot accept that they do not have a wide support in university. The Centre/centre-right always fought for better conditions. Remember Labour and how it treated University students (George Vella insulting them?)
@Jeremy J.Camilleri @Victor Laiviera
It is wrong if students insulted Alfred Sant. But no, I was not living on Mars. You have to accept that students always preferred the PN because the PN government never did a numerus clausus, never beat up students, never insulted students 'hamalli and gabbjetti'...
lgalea
Mar 18th 2010, 06:59
To all pn apologists, why is SDM afraid or proportional representation? Why should one organization get all the representatives because it gets 1 more vote than the other organization?
I strongly suggest to Pulse to inform the EU authorities, MEP's and other University organizations throughout the world about what happened and about the undemocratic manner in which students are represented at the University, especially the stand taken by SDM. This is the shameful situation that is wanted by the pn daughter organization SDM at the UoM.
david pisani
Mar 18th 2010, 00:57
SDM board or KSU board accepted the result, that is that the majority of students in the common room voted against the agenda. circa 130 against agenda to 60 in favour.
And by the way we are talking about democracy that is to have a representation in KSU not a monarchy system. May be SDM can go and live in Saudi Arabia. They can feel themselves at home.
Renee' Schembri
Mar 18th 2010, 00:10
What happened this morning at KSU AGM was very simple - the chairperson had no idea of the whole procedure that had to drive the KSU AGM. The KSU statute is very clear and stipulates the Agenda which has to lead the general meeting. The approval-of-Agenda point is there to make sure that additional important points, which must be discussed and approved only by the AGM are included - a clear example is what happened during last year's AGM - the E-voting point was added to the agenda, and then the agenda was approved.
The AGM has no power to invert the order of the agenda, simply because this is stipulated by the statute. The AGM needs a 2/3 majority to suspend the statute and therefore, in this case amend the order of the agenda as requested.
The chairperson has to execute what the statute says and nothing else. If the Chairperson wasn’t able to understand the statute and respect its procedures for AGM, I can’t understand why he was proposed. Maybe, those who proposed the chairperson wanted to really highjack the AGM.
Edric Micallef Figallo
Mar 17th 2010, 23:45
I correct myself in the previous post submitted:
Tyson Fenech was not a candidate per se, his movement Pulse supported last year's SDM competitor ACT, which failed.
Edric Micallef Figallo
Mar 17th 2010, 23:27
Last year I was an electoral commissioner for the student elections. The system works as follows. The election is based on the official posts available within KSU as provided by statute. Students vote for their preferred candidate, for each post. SDM candidates democratically win all the posts. However, the others, no matter what they style themselves as and how independent they try to appear, don't. The student shown vividly protesting in the video above is Tyson Fenech and if memory served me right he was a candidate discarded by the student electorate. He is the president of the very independent student organisation called Pulse, and was given ample coverage on One News tonight.
KSU is basically an executive, not a legislative body. Some people complained that it is nowhere to be found that those getting a majority get all seats. Stupidity's rubbish. Check our national politics. Did PN get 100% of the vote or a majority? Imagine an executive made up according to votes in the general elections, farsical. That's what some people seem to expect for KSU, an executive and not a legislative body. Get the basic notions straight, before trying to lecture on democracy and representation.
C.camilleri
Mar 17th 2010, 22:31
Why is it so difficult to accept changes in an electoral system where the winner takes it ALL and the runner up even at 49% ends up with NOTHING.
Democracy? What democracy? Shame on the so call future leaders of these islands.
Jonathan Galea
Mar 17th 2010, 22:22
let me see if i understand. we call ourselves social democrats, yet you label us as "Labour". using the same example, if you see someone eating a pizza, would you automatically call him italian? come on! grow up!
C. Zammit
Mar 17th 2010, 22:08
@ m. farrugia......it act like the UHMPN!!!!
c. gatt
Mar 17th 2010, 22:04
Issa qed nifhem għalfejn ħadd minnkom ma ħareġ stqarrija jew opinjoni dwar il-kwistjoni li tinsab għaddejja bħalissa fl-Universita fuq il-lingwa. Tafu li mil-lum 'il hemm il-malti mhux se jibqa' nituża aktar ħlief f'korsijiet ta' lingwi??? Tafu??? U ma tiftħux ħalqkom?? X'rappreżentanti intom?? Hekk iridu ta' fuq - tkissru u ġġieldu bejnietkom ħalli ma jkun hemm ħadd min jiqfilhom! Komplu paxxu 'l min qiegħed fil-poter. Qumu minn hemm u tkellmu, iddiskutu fuq kwistjonijiet importanti bħal dawn. Fuq xi magna tal-kondoms jew spazji tal-parking biss titkellmu???? Intom il-futur ta' għada - immaturaw! Ikbru!
Joseph Agius
Mar 17th 2010, 21:42
everyone can confirm the connection of Pulse to PL by watching at this moment (Wednesday 9.15) TX on One TV.
M. Agius
Mar 18th 2010, 16:47
You may also confirm SDM's ties to PN. Check were some of them work, check past interviews done by NET tv and you can spot out whom they asked :) *Surprise!*
m.farrugia
Mar 17th 2010, 21:27
@Karl Tabone, even the General workers Union says that he have no connections with any political but we know how it acts.
Ernest Vella
Mar 17th 2010, 21:16
In democracy...who have the majority leads...that all have the same number of rapresentatives will be communism...something that cannot work in democracy...the condom machine will remain out ou University...lol
G.Schembri
Mar 17th 2010, 21:46
Nobody wants to have the same number, but it is expected that all students should be reperesented on KSU. Not all University Students are Studenti Demokristjani. So how can KSU be composed of SDM only.
If Local Council elections were held in the same way, we would end up with either PL or PN council
members only in each locality. Not to mention that if the same system was used in the general elections we would end up with a dictatorship.
By the way I suggest you learn the difference between Communism and Dictatorship. Right now SDM is the Dictator, fighting to have a one party administration, ignoring all the rest.
Marija Falzon
Mar 17th 2010, 21:15
Why is it that everytime the heat is on the PN, it always turns out the same way? they portray everyone else as impolite, low level, tough and rough. The common element is always the same. A pn under pressure.
R.Mifsud
Mar 17th 2010, 21:08
To all those accusing the younger generation of being stupid and uneducated, what shall we say for the generation who RAISED THEM? Partisan politics is a product of a poor upbringing and the ignorance of certain citizens who consciously brainwash their children in such a way.
With that said, I'd also like to mention that whoever is familiar with the UoM and the election knows that less than a 20% of University students even bother with the election. These shenanigans occur frequently between the organisations and as most people might see; the intellect of the people involved is close to nil. Then again, those involved in national politics aren't very different; One can take Vince Farrugia's beating as an example.
As they say "Pajjiz tal-Mikij Mouse", before a REAL political party is given power (one which is not populist) this rubbish will never stop. The education system needs fixing and then and only then will the population be properly educated to avoid partisan politics.
Parties which have been around for so long (PN & MLP) have both had their turns at government: we need FRESH people- something which is not MLPN/AD/AN.
Kevin Borg
Mar 17th 2010, 20:43
The socialists are at it again. They are trying to infiltrate every corner with their unmistakable way which is basically making a scene to try and convince everyone they are being treated badly and they are constrained to react this way. All the situations developing lately should be an eye opener for all. The socialist movement in this country has been hijacked again by the low life and is veering its way to extremism. We all have experienced extreme socialism in this country during the dreaded 1980's and know what the low life guiding this movement can do, but we are still not believing that they can really do it.
Its a pity that after 20 years of extreme socialism our future generations have not learned to keep away from it. Be afraid, be very afraid because the socialists are back with a vengeance. Some may laugh at this comment but I recommend that you start crying because the socialist are the cousins of the communists. They are just slightly better dressed than the latter, but remain the same at heart and embrace the same values.
Now I am starting to understand what progressive really means.
Karl Bugeja
Mar 17th 2010, 19:54
p. caruana u seem brainwashed by your partys television station. pulse has always stated that it is a socio democratic organization, present on university / junior college campus to stand up for students rights!!! . . . We are indepedent for every political party as we accept and have members coming from different backgrounds. Net state this because they truely know that we are a strong organization on campus and therefore continuously LIE that we are a labour organization. Were proud to be socio-democrates!!!
M.Cauchi
Mar 17th 2010, 21:23
Pull the other on it's got bells on it. Every student at uni knows that SDM = PN and Pulse = MLP - with either of them serving thier political master's agenda rather than the students'. While I applaud Pulse's current motion to try and instill some sort of representative elections at university I still would like to see the student council election based on individual independant campaigns free of political leanings and agendas, such as are carried out in a number of forieghn univerisites. Rather than voting for mr x from pulse and Mr y from SDM I'd rather choose from Mssrs v, w, x, y & z of no political leaning.
P Caruana
Mar 17th 2010, 19:20
I was at this meeting and was shocked by the attitude of the Pulse aka Labour members ... it was a repeat of what their elders did in Valletta during the GWU protest! Shame! Mhux ta b'xejn these people never make it to KSU!
Jonathan Galea
Mar 17th 2010, 20:36
labour members? excuse me? I'm a tesserated PN member and part of the Pulse executive. time and time again we have stressed the point that we are NOT affiliated with any political party, be it red, blue, or green. on the contrary, we condemn party politics on campus.
I joined Pulse when I saw that unfortunately SDM feign taking an interest in students' affairs to gain power, as they have clearly shown today
lgalea
Mar 17th 2010, 20:44
You mean the SDM students and the ex-SDM president who should not have been allowed in because he is not a student?
M Agius
Mar 17th 2010, 20:47
Were you not shocked by the way sdm changed their opinion first arguing that Pulse were trying to change the statute and later (after AGM was suspended in the meantime gathering their supporters as everything was turning out against KSU/ SDM.) and later they came back saying that what Pulse wanted to change was the agenda and not the statute - the door kept opening while discussing a vote amongst other irregularities?
I am not a Pulse supporter or labour for all that matters, I think that both parties are different shades but pretty much the same substance. But I fully support proportional representation, may be in the future we'll have something like a coalition government.
If what goes on, on campus is representative of the outside world then we're a heading towards a new totalitarian government.
The AGM should be annulled due to all the irregularities it had from the very start or else rename to SDM u l-ħbieb tal-ħbieb AGM.
Karl Bugeja
Mar 17th 2010, 19:15
Mr Sapiano who are the students in the video??who is insulting ?? they are sdm students ... so get your facts right, you seem to be anti left, even when the right is wrong... its very worrying having maltese citizens act in this manner. ( point of information, this happened from both sides and it must be condemned by each and every person who insulted)
I agree completly with mr spiteri, its a huge shame, that supposedly mature people act in this manner. Secondly pulse have proposed this issue, had the majority of votes in the room and sdm still wanted to manipulate and take control (when being in minority). This is the shame mr sapiano that right wing students want to manipulate everything by their actions.
Pulse have continuously stated that they want to be the organization of each and every student, accepting all cultures, all political backgrounds etc , with the aim of being representative to all students and to stand up for students rights!
R abdilla
Mar 17th 2010, 20:46
@Karl Bugeja .dawk mhux jghajjru il hadd imma qed jigieldu ghad drittijiet tghahom . ghax luniversita giet manipulata ukoll. Tyson tant kin jaf xinhu jghamel li hareg lin nies barra biex ma jaqawx ghall provokazzjoni li bdew jghamlu nies li liskopp tghahom kin li jara lin nies tal pulse jiritaljaw. Dak is sejahlu tghajjir ? taf min jghajjar hux f luniversita ? meta kin gie alfred sant u insulentawh bi kliem dispregattiv fostom it tifel ta mara li illum mhux tghamel hliex ix xewwex u ig gelled nies
Muscat. Pat
Mar 17th 2010, 19:13
Imagine an electoral "democratic process" where the winning party would win all the seats in parliament because of a "block " vote! This would happen, nothwithstanding the minor party would get 30 or 40 % of the votes! Perhaps the "SDM" can tell us in which democratic country and in which European universtiy such a travesty of democracy exist!
Elaya Brincat
Mar 17th 2010, 19:05
Dawn m'humhiex tfal, u m'humiex "pampered, lost youth"... dawn qed jippruvaw jirrangaw sistema korrotta u mejta. Fl-ahhar hawn min lest jiggieled!
D Zammit
Mar 17th 2010, 19:02
Kemm taghmlu ghageb! Kull darba li jinqala' xi haga l-Universita' dejjem l-istess kantaliena ta' insulti minghand
l-erbghat imhuh maghluqa tas-soltu!
Lil dawk kollha li qed jghidu "tfal" u daqt is-soltu litanija ta' "shame" u "dawn ghad imexxu l-pajjiz", nixtieq
infakkar biss li sa ghoxrin sena ilu ommijietkom kienu jghidu l-istess affarjiet ghalikom. Issa jekk kellhomx ragun jew
le kwistjoni ohra.
daniel farrugia
Mar 17th 2010, 18:47
@c.sapiano
everybody knows that there is always a majority of student who vote for SDM but the electoral system is anti-democratic! if for example 35% of students vote for pulse they need their voice in the KSU.
@j.farrugia
your right politics should be out and even from local counsils. The KSU is their to represent the students not to agree or disagree accordinf to which party suggests something.
lgalea
Mar 17th 2010, 18:38
C. Sapiano Why is it always the right-wingers whiners who oppose all changes for better democracy?
G.Schembri
Mar 17th 2010, 18:20
@ J Farrugia No sweeping statements please. There are many student bodies on campus who are doing a lot of work that has nothing to do with Party Politics, why should they be removed. If you are interested to see all these organisations I suggest you visit campus during Freshers week, where all the new students can meet these groups.
Maria Agius
Mar 17th 2010, 18:18
I am in favour of democracy. The student's council is not democratic at all, and SDM are to blame for this.
Do you know that if you have more votes than your seat contender, you have to wait to see if your party gets en block more votes than the other party to get elected?!!! In this way the council members representing the students do not reflect the latter’s true desires.
Is this democracy? If SDM believes in this word they do not even start to talk about changing the statute, or divert attention to frivolous matters but amend it instantaneously.
The idea of hijacking a council has deep roots. These people have the nerve to criticize Mintoff on the 1981 election, but Mintoff had the guts to take a decision and change the constitution in a more democratic way and not hold firmly on his seat.
Compare this to SDM…. They have been asked to change the statute before the year 2000
. After 10 years the statute amendment is still to be discussed! Shame on those involved...
keith Sammut
Mar 17th 2010, 18:15
Nothing new!!
I disagree that this is not politics!! It is in fact the way politics is done in Malta!
What a shrewd way of manipulating people! my complements to SDM! They are true to their supporting party!
On the other hand I pity the pulse group who had to be the scape goats! but they are too naive to play the politics game!
SDM are comfy with the present system. So what do you expect them to do?
They just played around to frustrate their opponents untill they gave up!
Rather stupid.. judging from what was written! but again I wasn't there.
I tremble at the thought of having these people ruling our country!
R.Camilleri
Mar 17th 2010, 18:11
Fully agree with Mr.Sapiano and Mr.Micallef.
G.Schembri
Mar 17th 2010, 18:07
@ J Micallef - And what may I ask has MUT got to do with this? All members of MUT vote for persons representing different categories of teaching staff. The ones who get the most votes are elected, there are no different political blocks.
Whilst in KSU one of the groups gets elected en block - This means that if 501 voted for SDM and 500 voted for another group all members of KSU will be from SDM, even if one member got much less votes than another from pulse. This also means that no one can contest the KSU election individually, cause he will never get elected. If That is democracy than I'm the president of America.
Please stop being silly, and calling anyone who goes against PN as PL. You are acting very infantile.
Jeremy J Camilleri
Mar 17th 2010, 17:57
C Sapiano...Why is it that it is always the left-wingers who have to insult?
Where you living on Mars when the political debate was held on campus prior to the last General election?
I dont recall seeing your comments then.
Mary Ann Borg
Mar 17th 2010, 17:48
With Graffiti helping Pulse out on their new quest, no wonder the meeting ended as it did. That's all Graffiti does - smoke, smell and noise, usually by the same 6 to 10 people. Graffiti should go and protest in China and North Korea to learn how democracy works in such countries. It would be cheap too, because no return ticket will be required.
Matthew Farrugia
Mar 17th 2010, 17:46
Really, seeing Lauro Fava and co shouting "Sedja Sedja" (as that's the only word i think i understood from the shouting) and clapping, was that the right thing to do when the Pulse president was speaking?.. Pulse felt that a more balanced members in the KSU (including SDM candidates) have to be elected, something that from the shouting coming from the chorus of SDM, don't want.. to everyone who wrote that the left wingers always have to insult, I have sided with Pulse in past AGM's, with the same people, and the requests made by Pulse have always been constructive. What i've seen in this video, it really suggests that SDM are not only trying to demise Pulse, but all other student organisations based at the UOM
Mike Magri
Mar 17th 2010, 17:39
WHY are the SDM AFRAID of introducing the Proportional Representative Electoral System..!!
Is this the type of `A Politician` our university is producing for our future governance of our poor Maltese Islands..!! Is this the kind of `A Democracy` our country is expecting to have in our Future Parlament...!! How can anyone preach `Democracy`, if he grows up in the habbit of practicing the opposite...!!!
Shame on you Guys....
B. Pollacco
Mar 17th 2010, 17:24
Jien naqbel li jkun hemm zewg partiti li rridu jihdu hsib l-KSU imma li ma naqbilx li partiti jkunu relatati mal politika ax din tohloq "friction" ma l-istudenti waqt l-elezjonijiet,Agms etc. Kif qal J Farrugia l-politika trid titnehha mill-universita ta malta
B. Pollacco
Claire Busuttil
Mar 17th 2010, 17:11
Shame on you!! Tal misthija....dan il futur ta Malta???
M Cassar
Mar 17th 2010, 17:05
F dawn investihom 50 miljun ewro. What a waste haha ..flok fil generazzjoni ta qabilhom li skond studju wera bic car li hafna iktar intelligenti minnhom u li l generazzjoni ta warajhom, generazzjoni mdamdmin msomma. X'tistenna. Minhiex nirreferi ghal kollha ovvjament, dejjem ikun hemm l eccezzjonijiet.
S.Mifsud
Mar 17th 2010, 17:05
What is really and truly blasphemous here is the fact, that the KSU officials are elected with a block vote system, which does not allow for a true & fair democratic representation of the students that vote to elect such officials. In recent years SDM always got 60% of all votes, whilst Pulse or any other grouping got around 40% of votes. Yet, with the block vote system, within KSU there is no representation of the 40% of votes cast. Then SDM dare to speak about democracy. To put all this within a context, the present system that elects KSU officials is the same as saying, that in a general election, anyone getting 50%+1 of votes cast, would have all the seats within the Maltese Parliament, without no minority representation. The case being made by Pulse is so obvious, that anyone contesting it cannot really say to have democracy and democratic representation at heart!
N Debono
Mar 17th 2010, 16:52
The tragedy is national. These skirmishes are only the result of a system that never shook off those partisan shackles. The shoots spring from the stem, so criticising our youths means pretty much criticising ourselves.
D Vella
Mar 17th 2010, 16:46
On the contrary Mr Farrugia.. politics should be part and parcel of University life. What we have to change is' the born blue or red and that's the way I stay' mentality. Intellectual debate is also sorely missing,this has a lot to do with the way children are indoctrinated in our private schools where original thought is squashed out of them from day one. If you want a good example of the sort of person that is being churned out of our educational system.I refer you to the gay debater,supposedly a student at the university,on Xarabank last friday. His understanding of freedom and liberty and individual rights and his intolerance made me cringe. I noticed that he also managed to irritate other members of the panel who are known for their calmness and debating ability as well as for their patience.
John micallef
Mar 17th 2010, 16:16
Tfal ! dawn haj mexxu il pajjiz fil futur ?
Clive Gerada
Mar 17th 2010, 15:50
and these people are our future... Blasphemy.
Maria Pace
Mar 17th 2010, 19:18
I'd rather the country would be ruled by these than by someone who does not know the definition of 'blasphemy'.
These students are doing the right thing. They are fighting against a system that is not working.
J Farrugia
Mar 17th 2010, 15:44
Remove politics from the University of Malta. Remember it's us the people who are paying for these schenanighans. Remove these pulses, these sdms and other student organisations inside the campus. They are not fit to administer a cat, let alone a civil debating society. Shame on these pampered and lost youths.
A. Briffa
Mar 17th 2010, 17:14
Why remove student organizations? From your words why don't we remove all NGOs and start living the survival of the fittest game!
ASpiteri
Mar 17th 2010, 15:36
and these are the leaders of tomorrow?!?!
we really need another university i must say...even four or five...
C. Sapiano
Mar 17th 2010, 15:36
Why is it that it is always the left-wingers who have to insult? The same things which happened in Valletta happened in University.
Victor Laiviera
Mar 17th 2010, 16:33
Mr Sapiano, there is nothing in that article which indicates which side the "insults" were coming from.
If you had been present at the pre-election University Debate - as I was - you would have seen and heard the right-wing students hurling the vilest of insults at Dr Alfred Sant - including taunts about his medical condition.
C. Sapiano
Mar 17th 2010, 15:28
What the left-wing movements cannot accept is that the majority of University Students who vote, almost always voted for SDM in their majority. That is democracy.
Joe Cassar
Mar 17th 2010, 16:36
The present system at the University is totally undemocratic. If it were to be used during the national elections, it would mean that the party that got most votes - even if it was a slim relative majority, would get ALL the parliamentary seats.
Is that what we want?
L. Grixti
Mar 17th 2010, 16:37
Democracy is actually that all the people have persons to represent them. The system at the moment is that 52% of those who voted (mind you, only 25% of the people at university actually care about voting) are represented by 100% of the committee, while the other 48% have no one representing them. You call that fair and democratic?
PULSE motion is about having a ratio of elected members to represent the election result. Quite a fair and democratic motion in my opinion.
I can't understand how to blame are left-wing movements, when the AGM is being organised and directed by the current KSU, which as far as I know are SDM members.
And I won't even comment about people commenting against youths and students.
L. Grixti
Mar 17th 2010, 16:37
Democracy is actually that all the people have persons to represent them. The system at the moment is that 52% of those who voted (mind you, only 25% of the people at university actually care about voting) are represented by 100% of the committee, while the other 48% have no one representing them. You call that fair and democratic?
PULSE motion is about having a ratio of elected members to represent the election result. Quite a fair and democratic motion in my opinion.
I can't understand how to blame are left-wing movements, when the AGM is being organised and directed by the current KSU, which as far as I know are SDM members.
And I won't even comment about people commenting against youths and students.
Christian Mifsud
Mar 17th 2010, 17:12
The word democracy at the University of Malta does not exist.
J Micallef
Mar 17th 2010, 15:27
The Lbour Party is trying to infiltrate and create havoc in all democratically elected bodies: MUT, GRTU and now KSU
john micallef
Mar 17th 2010, 16:46
I didnt believe there are still stupid people like you
Matthew Farrugia
Mar 17th 2010, 17:55
Mr. Micallef, and to all those who think that it's because of national politics,
I have been with these people for some long time to know that, as for Pulse, there is no affiliation with a political party, let alone infiltration. PULSE is a neutral student organisation, yes with left ideology, because we believe that every student has the same and exact right to learn with all the others, because left is not labour, left is the ideology that I don't care if you're rich and poor, if you have the right to learn, than come and learn... Pulse is made up of different students from different backgrounds (political, religios etc)... and that what makes pulse strong,
Karl Tabone
Mar 17th 2010, 18:12
I'm sorry to correct you but Pulse does not have any connection to a specific party. We said it before, and still people cannot understand this simple statement.
Alex Cutajar
Mar 18th 2010, 22:37
Mr Micallef.. Even if it where the MLP, what's the havoc? Try not to listen to only one side ..