Tariffs motion defeated

salvu calleja

Mar 3rd 2010, 09:57

Lill dawk kollha li mhumiex paxxuti (Bhali)....Darba xi hadd qal li l-isttandard of living jitkejjel b'k hemm ikun hawn airconditions!!!!!...tieghi gie jiswa daqs inkwatru ta Lm500 ghax inhares biss lejh nista..... Hallas ja poplu..........ghax issa anke min jirraprezenta l-haddiem spicca biex tak dahru.........

joanna farrugia

Mar 3rd 2010, 09:15

@ jj borg daqs kemm rahashom gonzi avolja austin gatt kien qal li jekk jorhos iz zejt jorhsu l-kontijiet.ezatt jj borg gara!!! mela gej temmen jew ma temminx lil jm.ara min gideb

D. Xerri

Mar 3rd 2010, 09:14

@Adrian Abela
Inti kwazi Hlift li ma tivvotax PN - min kwazi hlift ghall ma hlift xejn - mhemm l-ebda differenza - dik il-KWAZI taf kemm tfisser habib! U ehe halli lill PN ikompli ghaddej b gaffa minn fuq kulhadd bil-barka tieghek Prosit ! Inti meta tara l-attitudni tal-PL u tal-GWU ma tistax tifhimom - uzgur ifem lill Dr Gonzi Mela kif jista jsallbek aktar u jitbissimlek hux. Ara jien nifhimom lill PL u lill GWU ghax huma l-unici difiza li ghandu l-haddiem Malti - l-unici protezzjoni u lehen li ghandu l-haddiem li hafna huma dawk li dejjem provaw ixekklu u jifirdu lill haddiema stess u jridu jidhru li jhobbu l-haddiem fostom dak il-famuz kliem li kien qalilna xi hadd bravu - AHNA QALBNA MAL-HADDIEMA ! imbad insallbuh lill haddiem jew nitkazaw ghax ipprotesta bhall ma jghamel kull haddiem iehor fuq kollox f kull parti tad dinja .
Imma Malta LE MA TARAX , Malta l Gvern iridek toqod kwiet u ssofri dak kollu li jimponi fuqek b id tal-hadid ! PAR IDEJN SODI hux ! biex insawwtu l-haddiem bl-attitudni u l-arroganza ta Gvern li totalment maqtugh mill prijoritajiet tal-poplu.
Flimkien Kollox Possibbli - il-Flimkien ma ssiba MKIEN !

John O Scerri

Mar 3rd 2010, 09:06

QUOTE :"The motion was moved by opposition spokesman on resources Joe Mizzi who said the new rates were undermining competitiveness, endangering jobs and making it difficult for many households to make ends meet."
Where was Hon. Joe MIzzi during Dr Sant's govt.? Were there not new tarriffs then ? Were there no housholds which were not able to make ends meet?
Joe Mizzi and all around him use two weights and two measures. Grow up and do not keep insulting our population any more .
We are all fed up of politically dishonest MPs.

May they resign in peace and give way to those who have the guts to tell it all without fear of losing votes . I am stating this referring to ALL political parties . blue , red , green etc:
Yes people in the street are fed up of being insulted by politicians who think they know all and who try to beat about the bush in order to convince the ignorant . STOP IT !! NOW.
You politicians should go down in the streets more often and learn to LISTEN, let real life hit you in the face , review Govt policies and improve them.

ROBERT HENRY BUGEJA

Mar 3rd 2010, 08:13

@ everyone.

When will you understand that fighting between eachother wont help? The exxegerated way of billing a nation is simply anti-christian. This will make us all suffer, one way or another. It doesnt matter what colour you support...you have to pay up or face the consequences. Can we for once unite as Maltese to fight an unsocial cause?

Joe E Galea

Mar 3rd 2010, 08:12

Dr Muscat said the government was saying it had no money for oil purchases, but it found money for other purposes. It was selling the dockyard for a song. It had eaten up €120 million in Air Malta reserves on AzzurAir and the RJ70 aircraft; €2.5 million on the bridge to nowhere at the Grand Harbour breakwater; €4m in commissions for the new power station, €58 million to buy back the promise to the bus owners, €21 million for Dar Malta, €200 million in VAT corruption, €160,000 on festivities for the inauguration of Palace Square, €16 million for the planned quarry in front of St John's and €80 million for city gate and a theatre where one would need an umbrella.

Isn't this already enough as a first proposal?...i.e. stopping the waste of Malta's coffers which come from our taxes?

j.spiteri

Mar 3rd 2010, 08:02

@J. J. Borg
Daqs kemm rahsuhom l-allat li temmem fihom int! Issa la tircievi il-kont mur halsu b'idejk fuq qallbek u ghid 'grazzi GonziPn tal-qalb socjali li tant tiftahar biha'.

Joe E Galea

Mar 3rd 2010, 07:59

The PN yesterday clearly showed that its interest is the power. They don't give a dime about what the people feel and think. The government has betrayed the whole country except the usual couple of hotch potch PN staunchers that come in here shooting the usual nonsense recorded on a vinyl disc since the early 90's. Please change disc with a more objective thinking rather than partisan nonsense.

What's wrong in having unions setting up a protest agains a very wrong decision? Since you clearly always go to the past since you have no future with your PN gov., let's mention the similar protests held in 1997 on the same subject. I bet a 1 year salary that those PN lickers that today are glorifying the utility bills as just, as soon as there is a Labour government, the day after they will start crying that the utility bills are unjust and start organising protests, etc. We know these pitiful people's behaviour enough. Antica Roma!! I suggest you all get a life and get out your blue box.

Arthur Pound

Mar 3rd 2010, 00:29

What we have nowadays are Corporations pretending to be Governments we will never get any change in policy because they do not care. When you vote all you are doing is voting for the next CEO of MALTA PLC, notice the capitol letters which denotes a corporation, also take note that every bill (statement actually because nobody gets bills as per the bills of exchange act any more) always has your name in capitol letters, ask yourself why is that, why do they not use your name as a proper noun, well there is a reason. Do your research.

M Mizzi

Mar 2nd 2010, 23:50

"Asked what the unions' next step would be, Mr Bencini said the politicians had spoken and this should be respected"

politicians need to understand that they are our servants and not the other way round. Its the people's word that needs to be respected.

lgalea

Mar 2nd 2010, 23:10

Adrian Abela, O Gauci Why were the IDCards not renewed and are still not renewed? For people who are not eligible to vote and yet vote because they still have an IDCard?

S. Vella Have a good look at that website and also look at all the newspapers throughout any period you care to ention and see whether the PN is the most violent party that ever existed in Malta. Violence also includes moral violence Vella. No wonder it has been called the PArty curse of Malta and not by the PL mind you.

v agius

Mar 2nd 2010, 22:49

sorry what are some of these comment's are about? you are defending the government that has made up to 20 years and more and still laugh or your backs, friends Maltese and Gozitans wake up from that dream and be realistic, the next time you see the pay of the water and light and see the surcharge say thank you Gonzi for make them higher, Malta deficit is under neat.. and you and me are going to pay the taxes for that defect that has made this government.I don’t now that he say’s that we want to pay more and he dreams about piano projects this make now sense, well done Gonzi make more taxes perhaps some day the people will take action. and that day will be in the next election!.. and another thing I’ am a
great fan of p1 I don’t now why this year there will be no power boats,I have receive an email say The Maltese Government did not renew the3year contract it had with the P1 Association -No races for us this year. It is a real pity that our Champion - Aaron Ciantar will not be able to defend the title in Malta

J. J. Borg

Mar 2nd 2010, 22:15

What we need is a frank discussion of where this country's priorities should be. For decades our quality of life has been kept artificially high thanks to state subsidies for pretty much everything. This is no longer possible and the sooner the PN and MLP realize this the better. At he moment we are living beyond our means and it will be our children and grandchildren who will pay the costs.

W. Azzopardi

Mar 2nd 2010, 22:07

Joseph (Joe) Grima
If YOU write the history probably he will.

James Grima

Mar 2nd 2010, 21:16

@Mark Piscopo
U ejja Mark fejn hu il faqar? M'intix tara li din hi fantasija tal PL?

Martha Zerafa

Mar 2nd 2010, 20:29

@adrian abela....int tahsiba hafna bhali pero certu nies ma jridux jisimaw il verita u jipruvaw jinsulentawk u jgidbuk.dawn it tip ta nies li jitfaw il labour lura ghax ikun hemm nies bhalek u bhali li qedin f dubji lil min se jivutaw u nies bhal dawn jaghmlulek id decizjoni huma

C.camilleri

Mar 2nd 2010, 20:10

@ James Grima

I was addressing the PN deputies. As far as I know you are not a PN deputy and therefore did not vote against the PL motion. But yes your PN deputies sallbuna with their vote.
You said that those who work are not imsallba. Prosit we have over 8000 unemployed not to mention those whose main income is a part time job and also according to caritas there are around 60000 families on the poverty line. So I take it that at least these are imsallba while the Prime Minister is busy spending money for a roofless theater amongst other white elephants.

Martha Zerafa

Mar 2nd 2010, 19:55

@d.xerri jien qatt ma bellajt ir ross bil labra u jien naghjt dak li nhoss u iva nemmen li dal gvern issa qazizna bil kontijiet u naqbel hafna li jsiru protesti bhall dawn u naqbel hafna li hemm bzonn ta bidla pero nemmen ukoll li laburist veru jpaxxu lil ministri nazzjonalisti meta jagixxu bdal mod u nemmen li likbar propoganda kontra labour jaghmliha laburisti stess.nahseb urejtek bic car li tkellimt mil qalb u b l honesta kollha

J. J. Borg

Mar 2nd 2010, 19:21

Tghid mhux se nemmen li jekk Joseph Muscat jilhaq PM se jrahhas il-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma! Daqs kemm kien rahhashom Alfred Sant!

Mark Piscopo

Mar 2nd 2010, 18:55

@Adrian Abela
Tkun Nazzjonalist jew laburist jew ma xi partit iehor trid thallas dawn il kontijiet drastici tad dawl u ilma. Wara iz zieda fic cilindri tal gas, iz zieda fil licenzji tal karozzi, iz zieda fil- "fuel" meta lpaga f'Malta hija l-inqas fl-Unjoni Ewropeja il paga ma isservikx. F'Malta il-faqar irid jizdied u qed nghida bl-ikbar sincerita.

V Caruana

Mar 2nd 2010, 18:52

Let Pl-Pn hardliners chatter. Get to facts. A normal houshold of 4 persons consuming 300 Units of electricity in Feb 2010 would be billed €47 the same amount billed for 300 Units in Feb 2009! 300 units of electricity in Nov 2009 were worth €39.49. Oil price in Feb 2009 was around $42-$43, Nov 09 around $75-$78 and Feb 10 about $69-$78. My conclusion is that since in mid-08 there was a price hike of $147/barrel with news forecasting that oil will soon get to $250/barrel (even Dr. Gonzi believed these news) Enemalta must have hedged oil at a very high price and so WE HAVE to pay for this inefficiency. We must also say that Enemalta in the early "90s used to make PROFITS withLM 51m of reserved Money(1992). Last investment was on the combined cyle in 96-98.

Joseph (Joe) Grima

Mar 2nd 2010, 18:02

Gonzi will go down in history as the most inept leader of any party in Malta and that includes tal Farfett.

Adrian Abela

Mar 2nd 2010, 17:05

@D. Scerri
Skuzani imma ma naqbilx mieghek. Jien wiehed li kwazi hlift li ma nivvotax PN ghax veru, ghaddejjien qishom b'gaffa minn fuq kullhadd. Din tat- tariffi tatni gewwa wkoll, imma meta nara l- atitudi tal- PL/ GWU ma nistax nemminhom lanqas. Nassigurak li jien PN, wiehed mill- ftit Bormlizi pero' nassigurak ukoll li mhux darba w tnejn ma vvotajtx f'elezzjoni tall- kunsill, l- istess bhal m'ghamilt f' ta' l- ewropa, dan biss bhala sinjal ta' protesta. Ghall informazzjoni wkoll, kont ittesserat imma l- istess m'ghadniex. Pero' kif nista' nafda lill PL b'dawn l- affarijiet? Fejn inbidlu? Nismaa lis- Sindku ta' Bormla jghid li ma' jiehdux sehem f'attivita' tal- gvern fuq isem ta' gnien. Halluna w iddahhkux aktar nies ta' rieda tajba. Ikbru ghall gid ta' Malta please

M. Camilleri

Mar 2nd 2010, 17:00

Please PL apologists and brains...can you kindly ask your leader to present, CONCRETE, WORKABLE SOLUTIONS when he become PM to deal with electricity and water bills? Up till now he had presented nothing. We are back to the old music "When we are in Government we will reveal our plan"! They think we are still naive. If you like to attract people to vote for you, give them concrete, tangible proposals. The same with the GWU - it presented a report and the authors asked to remain anonymous!! How nice!! If people make a report and make certain assertions they should take responsability and sign it!! No where in the free world this happens. If they refused to show their identity then the report was not worht the paper it was written on.

Joe Micallef

Mar 2nd 2010, 16:56

Dear MLP,

The people have already told MLP/PL more than once (1998, 2003, 2008) that they do not trust a party that sleep in the same bed with the GWU, a union whose leader can really present an objective credible argument.

I prefer not to vote at all rather than invest my vote in a party that keeps this trend. Since the 1998 election the MLP has been a serial loser rather than the PN being a serial winner, but it seems that even with all the branding and rebranding excercises Labour never learns!!

I'm sure that with those nice chants ta assassin and the usage of stupid 1980s metaphors (ughig, tradiment, etc) etc etc you have convined the floaters! Poeple want a labour similar to MEP elections not the one we have seen during these past few days.

Clive Gerada

Mar 2nd 2010, 16:55

Will ever people STOP mentioning the PAST and START working for the FUTURE?

K. Borg

Mar 2nd 2010, 16:31

Too late Mr. Bencini! You have been used........you should have known from the start what will happen when you rub your shoulders with certain elements. At least you had the guts to show your disapproval when insults were hurled at the Prim Minister and his team. Now show that you are a true gentelman and resign from your position as leader of the MUT. Your presence is risking a split in our union.

D. Xerri

Mar 2nd 2010, 16:01

@Martha Zerafa
Tipprovax tbellalna r-ross bil-labra - Drajniha d-diska tal-PN - Please Biddel ic-CD !
On the other hand jekk kliemek genwin li niddubita hafna hafna nghidlek biss haga wahda Martha - Ma Laburist taf fejn qieghed ghax jurik dak li jhoss u jesprimi ruhu - Ma Nazzjonalist ma taf qatt fejn qieghed ghax Mutu Mutu Qrunu f butu - Jew kif jghidu ahjar Jitfa l-gebla u jahbi idu - Dejjem hekk kienu tal-PN keskes u sahhan l-irjus - xewwex u aqla l-qlajjiet u ifred u saltan u qatt mhu ser jinbidlu !
iLLUM rajna mill-gdid is-slogan magiku tal-PN jitwettaq - Flimkien Kollox Possibbli - jew ahjar - Bejnietna Kollox Passabbli - ghax hekk isiru l-affarijiet fil-PN - Naghmlu dejjem dak li nghidu ahna u ara ma jiftillekx tazzarda tghid nofs ta kelma kontra l-opinjoni taghna specjalment fejn jidhlu dawk l-gheziez siggijiet fil-parlament li niggranfaw maghhom akkost ta kollox u ghas-skapitu ta kulhadd jekk hemm bzonn basta jkollna l-poter !

adrian aquilina

Mar 2nd 2010, 15:49

just shows how little the whole of this government cares about the people living on this island..do not give up protesting..soon a total collapse of this country is going to take place thanks to gonzi..electricity in u.k. avarage household 320pounds a year...shame on our government and its capitalist ideals

laurence schembri

Mar 2nd 2010, 15:33

You lot just pay and shut-up, that is the attitude. Whether I like it or not I have to fork out to make good for a disastrous administration.
James Grima will it be allright if I forwarded my bills to you?

CARMELO PACE

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:52

WILL THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION TELL US IN SIMPLE TERMS,WHAT HE'LL DO TO CHARGE US CHEAPER RATES IF IN POWER?, ,IF THE PRESENT OIL PRICES ARE THE SAME ?OR GO TO A HIGHER LEVER,WHEN IN OPPOSITON NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE MR MUSCAT,BUT ITS A DIFFERENT STORY WHEN YU FACE FACT;S

Martha Zerafa

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:40

jien wahda min dawk li kont certissima li l ellezzjoni li gejja nivvota labour pero meta nara hekk nerga nigi fid dubju.kif ma jitaghlmu qatt dan nies?bl ghagir taghhom ghadom ma jafux kemm qed jaghmlu hsara lil partit laburista huma stess.

Ivan Attard

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:37

@ James Grima

Ma tantx ghandu kuragg il-Prim li int tant tghozz. Li kieku kellu l-kuragg, kien jaqbad u jsejjah l-elezzjoni generali u mhux ilaqqa' l-Grupp Parlamentari biex minghalih jirranga s-sitwazzjoni. Aktar stagnar ekonomiku! Toqoghdu twahhlu fil-Labour Party jekk jintilfu l-postijiet tax-xoghol... it-tort tafu ta' min hu... it-tort huwa ta' min ried iwebbes rasu u issa qed nispiccaw inhallsu ghall-inkompetenza ta' dan il-Gvern arroganti... il-poplu jaghtik risposta fl-2013, Sur Prim Ministru!! Messkom tisthu Deputati taparsi disgruntled... Tafu tisthu jew le? Kellkom bzonn kellkom nofs il-genwinita' li ghandu Joseph Muscat ghax kieku lil Malta gibtuha genna fl-art.

R. Caruana

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:32

Mr Bencini, that's what you get when sleeping with strange bedfellows!

Did it have to take so long for you to find out? Let's see now if the MUT has learnt its lesson. Otherwise you'll be risking that teachers will look for leadership elsewhere.

O. Gauci

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:25

@igalea
Mur il qorti jekk INTI andek provi ta xi serq fl elezzjoni. Qed nistennew ha narawk headline on times.

U pls when you quote sources, make sure that they speak facts and that are not partisan ghax iktar tkun qed taqa fil baxx.

Adrian Abela

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:24

@Igalea
You forgot how many PN clubs got vandalized? But then maybe you don't know because during the MLP regime one had to be careful what to say. And I wonder if you've been to Cospica during an election dear Igalea. Coffins with PN written on them hanged in the streets. One could hardly buy in- Nazzjon! These things they should write in the website you referred to in another article. And how dare you say that PN robbed the elections? Sour grapes at it's very best nothing else. Where were you in 1981? Honestly, really I would love to see a change in government but how can I trust people like PL and GWU. Think it would be possible for any protester to get near any MP during Labour reign? And poor Tont Zarb moaning because they stopped them behind the barriers. To say the least there were no police or others thugs hurling abuses at him. These things I'm afraid of Igalea and not tariffs

Mark Fleri

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:21

As the saying goes "Everything and everyone has a price". The PN MPs have got what they wanted now. But in the long term they will end up paying a far heftier price for the decisions they are making now and that time is coming sooner then they think.

S. Vella

Mar 2nd 2010, 14:16

@L. Galea

If you want to compare atrocities, violence and abuse of power in the past, then PL are going to lose hands down. I mostly abstain from local politics these days but I still shiver when I think of my teen years in the eighties.

lgalea

Mar 2nd 2010, 13:32

James Grima How about the rowdy pn puliti rabble who used to protest with borom u va*ijiet in the 80's? How about the pn rabble who vandalized and burned the PL clubs http://www.maltapolitics.com/vjolenzanazzjonalista.htm and the various links on http://www.maltapolitics.com/index.htm

James Grima

Mar 2nd 2010, 13:10

C camilleri
Ahna ma sallabna lil hadd. Min jahdem mhux imsallab habib. So grow up.

James Grima

Mar 2nd 2010, 13:03

@Igalea
I suspect you were one of that roudy crowd, that was present to the picnic. Shame.

Joe Busuttil

Mar 2nd 2010, 13:02

So after so much huffing and puffing and stamping of feet the PN MPs all voted according to Gonzi's wish. And these are the people who speak of poodles,the leaders of the free trade unions,and Dr Muscat in the same breath. As for those PN MPs who did not accept a copy of the petition presented to all MPs they must either have grown too big for their boots or are still in the doldrums for being demoted lately. They know on which side their bread is buttered. Only one person had the guts to do what they should have done,old Dom. But if you add them all up they won't amount to his small toe.
Although the Nats have on every available occasion insulted labour leaders I appeal to all not to do the same .No insults please as Mr Bencini said.

Ivan Attard

Mar 2nd 2010, 13:00

It-telfa massicca fl-elezzjoni tal-Parlament Ewropew f'Gunju 2009 ma swietlu xejn lil Gonzi u lill-Partit Nazzjonalista fil-Gvern.

Min ma jismax il-messagg tal-poplu ripetutament, huwa destinat ghal tkaxkira akbar!

C.camilleri

Mar 2nd 2010, 12:59

@ PN Deputies

Just to thank you for your vote yesterday. Sallabtuna.

lgalea

Mar 2nd 2010, 12:57

James Grima Direzzjoni minn fuq il-precipizzju ghal isfel.

Apologisti tal-pn, kemm qed tinharqu ghax il-poplu ipprotesta? Hemm ghamilna u se nkomplu naghmlu ghax Gonzi seraq l-elezzjoni u issa qieghed jiffaccja l-konsegwenzi tas-serqa tieghu. Dak li tisraq ma tgawdihx.

Mark Cassar

Mar 2nd 2010, 11:54

Why doesn't the government give stimulus packages like the rest of the world? You might say there's no money and the money needs to come from somewhere, fine. So....the government gives an extra 20 million euros, ezempju lil familji batuta l-ewwel. Dawn il familji imorru jixtru l-ikel u l-affarjiet essenzjali, tal-hant tal-ikel jixtrihom ghamara, tal ghamara jitfahom il-bank, il-bank isellef lil gvern bl-interessi u bi prezz tal-interessi tkun caqlaqt ir-rota tal-ekonomija stagnata tal-pajjiz titma lil familji batuta u bihhejt ghamara u qallajt l flus l-bank. I stand to be corrected. Iktar ma tkun xhih inqas taghmel flus u min ihaddem il-flus igawdi ftakru fil parabola ta dak li difen l flus u l-ihor haddimom u investa mar ahjar.

James Grima

Mar 2nd 2010, 11:30

Prosit Prim. Nammira il kuragg li ghandek, u is sens ta direzzjoni, u li gibt fix xejn il bluff tal "oppozizjoni".

Victor Laiviera

Mar 2nd 2010, 11:17

It seems that not one single PN backbencher was ready - or could be trusted - to speak against the motion.

One wonders why.

mariobezzina

Mar 2nd 2010, 11:00

too late bencini. you are old enough to know the mentality of these people. never trust them.

S.Farrugia

Mar 2nd 2010, 10:43

John Bencini

After having reduced the MUT image to a Labour tug by complicity - we encourage you to ask for a vote of confidence from all the MUT members or risk splitting the MUT into 2 unions.

Prosit John Bencini as widely warned, you have been used by the Malta Labour Party and General Workers Union for their own requirements and you so naively fell into it taking with you the members of the MUT. Shame on you.

O. Gauci

Mar 2nd 2010, 10:28

Sur Bencini, don't tell us that you wasn't expecting such people to be at the protest? This was all a partisan, political protest led by GWU/PL. You should have not taken part the first place and should have together with GWU keep meetings with the government instead of taking people to the street.

Erin Ciantar

Mar 2nd 2010, 10:25

Hmmm...Closing the Marsa power station...............Where have I heard that one before??

Noel Abela

Mar 2nd 2010, 10:03

Dear Mr John Bencini..there is nothing to be disguted about...you should see how politicians are treated in other parts of Europe in similar instances...not with just some insults...stop treating these MPs like Gods they are there to serve the people and when they stop doing this they then deserve to get the full ire of the people and no less.

Lawrence Fenech

Mar 2nd 2010, 10:01

Vot iehor kontra il-poplu Malti u kontra taghkom.