PM 'ready to discuss' Valletta open theatre with Piano and artistes
The Prime Minister is willing to discuss the proposed open-air theatre in Valletta with architect Renzo Piano and the 128 artistes and theatre users opposing the concept.
Lawrence Gonzi made the comment when reacting to an appeal for consultation made by 128 artistes from the Maltese theatre scene, who signed an open letter calling on the government to discuss the future of the old opera house in Valletta.
"I'm glad the letter I received yesterday called for dialogue. I'm ready to do that. I would also like architect Renzo Piano, or representatives of his office, to take part and explain the concepts and limitations of the site," Dr Gonzi said .
The open letter was delivered by hand to Castille on Tuesday and is backed by Maltese personalities of all backgrounds. It includes names of international and local repute such as tenor Joseph Calleja, dancer Felix Busuttil, veteran actor Lino Farrugia and philosopher Fr Peter Serracino Inglott.
The artistes had complained about lack of consultation on the new theatre, which, they said, was not a solution to the "huge shortcomings" found in other theatres.
But Dr Gonzi emphasised that the concept of an open-air theatre was Mr Piano's brainchild and not the government's. "Piano believes that it should remain an open space for our country to have a variety of spaces to be used for art and culture."
These ideas, however, were open to consultation, he said.
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Myrna Minkoff
Mar 10th 2010, 11:24
How many people complaining in here actually GO to the theatre??? Oh. Oh I See. Thought so.
smifsud
Mar 6th 2010, 18:05
To all the people of Malta ...please DO NOT LET THIS GONZI PN RUIN VALLETTA SAY A STRONG NO TO THE NEW PARLAMENT!!!....and also we need the ORIGINAL OPERA HOUSE OR NOTHING AT ALL.......!!!
Anthony Pace Gouder
Feb 24th 2010, 09:53
@Carmine Herrera
Your first SENTANCE , precisely " forges ahead like a bulldozer " is an exact description of the Prime Minister's handling of this CONTROVERSIA .
The element of transparency in this deal was TOTALLY ECLIPSED , but emerges blindingly BRIGHT in the transparency of the so called "theatre" and the gateway , to the extent of invisability !!!!!
Carmine Herrera
Feb 22nd 2010, 15:30
@Mike Magri
So what do you want? Do you prefer a prime minister who digs his heels in the ground, plugs his ears, shuts his eyes, and forges ahead like a bulldozer?
I certainly prefer someone with enough humility to accept the possibility of being wrong and being ready to change his position. This shows far more strength of character in my eyes and in the eyes of the majority.
Obstinacy didn't serve Alfred Sant much good.
The country (and party) disliked him and sent him packing.
Thank god, Muscat is different!
GAFFARENA JOSEPH
Feb 21st 2010, 23:25
My Dear Prime Minister,
Now we are talking,now you are singing the right tune, of flimkien kollox hu possibli.
After all these years seeing our opera house in such a state,we are all waiting for that
moment to see this great work of art,, being built again i n its original state. I, want to be
there seeing the opening of this opera house,in a windy rainy day,but so cosy and dry from the inside, seeing yiou relaxing,without hearing the rain , but enjoying the voice of our tenor joseph calleja echoing inside our roofed opera house.
Mike Magri
Feb 21st 2010, 10:26
@ Carmine Herrera.. OH... I see ... So now, according to your `Unfoolish` conclusion of the description and or value of the word `U-TURN`, this has been changed from a Confusion of the Mind and/or Uncertainty, to a `CREDIT` for those who do it, especially if it is GonziPN & Co...!!!!
Hallina Carmine...
Steve Psaila
Feb 21st 2010, 00:04
@Anthony Pace Gouder
Xniegha? donnok trid ticcajta hux?
Qed nahlifek fuq il-qabar ta l-ghaziza ommi, li l-Vot tieghi ma jergax jarah b'nemes jekk mhux se jibni Teatru msaqqaf sabieh daqs dak li kien hemm... U jien mhux qed niccajta!
Steve
m.muscat
Feb 20th 2010, 21:18
Fejnhom il-Beltin? Possibli qed jaccettaw dan l-isfregju li jrid jaghmel dan il-Prim ministru. Zgur li din il gawhra ta'belt dinjija jixirqilha teatru mibni bil-gebel mhux kaxxa tal-hgieg. U xi nghidu ghal bieb! Fil-prezent qisu bieb ta'garage ( u dan sar fi zmien P.N. tas 60's) U ISSA jridu jgibuh sqaq kemm jghaddi HMAR minghajr karettun.!!!! Zgur li ghandna periti maltin johorgu b'xi haga aktar bis-sens min PIANO!
Anthony Pace Gouder
Feb 20th 2010, 21:04
Issa qieghda tigri x-xniegha li hawn minn qed jirraguna :-
'' No NATIONAL THEATRE ... NO PARTY "' (il-VOT)
R Busuttil
Feb 20th 2010, 20:56
The PM should be ready to discuss and listen to the people on all three 'projects'.
Pule' Carmel
Feb 20th 2010, 20:55
I just hope that the argument that the Greeks also had open theatres will stop being put forward, as the Greeks also had open air toilets!
I just hope that a modern theatre would consider that we now live in 2010 and we have developed inexpensive wide span structures to cover both the ammenities just mentioned.
M.Said
Feb 20th 2010, 18:05
A roofless theatre would be a very good idea. It would truly leave the present Government's mark in the memory of all..... A HEADLESS government.
Carmine Herrera
Feb 20th 2010, 17:48
@Mike Magri
Don't be foolish...
The fact the the Prime Minister declared that he is prepared to listen is to his credit.
It is in his job description to be prepared to make whatever U-turns, twists and turns neccessary to remain in tune with public opinion.
Joe Xuereb
Feb 20th 2010, 17:40
@Joe Azzopardi. Of course you've a point. Mnajdra/Hagar Qim/Ggantija were built on virgin ground. But was it? Maybe there was resistance and skirmishes. Unless archaelogists come up with some even deeper layers, and even that would prove nothing. The same with Sciberras promontory, we are lead to believe that too was virgin ground. Same argument. The Parthenon may or may not have been resisted. We'll never know. These were remarkable buildings all, two in particular. But a toothy-gap in ancient walls and a roofless theatre a` la Epidauros but hardly a replica? And all riding roughshod over the surroundings? I'm afraid, Sur Azzopardi, your contribution holds only 'xahx' (stone chippings and other rubble). And transparent as the sieve that sifts it.
I neither vote nor pay taxes in Malta. Maybe Malta doesn't even need a theatre (encouraging the arts is fine but in beleaguered Malta?). And antiquated partisan politics deserving of a costly parliament-building? I don't care much whichever way but a toothy-gap in an ancient wall and a roofless theatre could turn into mistakes. Build a theatre outside the walls. If a mistake is done, we won't have to lifv with it for x hundred years in our City.
James Stagno Navarra
Feb 20th 2010, 17:39
Polls clearly indicate that 85% of the country disapproves of these Roofless Theatre plans.
The writing is on the wall - This will be a very short lived theatre!
It would doubtlessly be an immeasurable personal disgrace for both the Government, the Prime Minister as well as Renzo Piano if this Roofless theatre were to be demolished in the near future to make way for a better version - a version that is more sensitive to the emotional and practical needs of the people.
I suggest they revise their position, if only to spare themselves this eternal humiliation!
This is some good advice worth heeding.
Don't be hard headed - it's not worth it!
kgalea
Feb 20th 2010, 17:29
Ruins of the old theatre would have their own dignity if they make part of a nice building, not a compromise.
However, IF a compromise it must be, just use all the ruins and create again all the opera house's facade. All the rest of the building can be built using modern structures for indoor/ outdoor activities.
A vella
Feb 20th 2010, 15:56
The majority of Maltese are against Renzo Piano's proposal, for various valid reasons already well set out by various exponents. The government should listen.
Mike Magri
Feb 20th 2010, 14:38
Guys.. Mela m`ghadux `Adamant` il-Prim fuq dan il-kaz ..!! Issa lest li jaghmel `U` Turn ohra ukoll..!!! Imma allura Xi Gralu biex biddel fhemtu daqshekk malajr u lest li jaghmel l-OPPOST u jmur ghad-diskussjoni...!!! Jew din UKOLL se tkun `Diskussjoni` FINTA` bhall dawk li diga saru !!!, fl-MSECD...!!!!
Nistennew u naraw... Ha.. Ha.. Ha..
R. Camilleri
Feb 20th 2010, 14:26
Nixtieq inkun naf kif ma kellniex il hila insibu perit Malti jghamel il-pjanti meta ghandna tant periti tajbin. B'hekk konna niffrankaw dawk il-miljuni kollha johorgu barra l- pajjiz. Barra dan jien ma' nistax nifiehem kif jista jintuza dan il-progett li se jqum tant flus, fix-xitwa ( li jkun qiesu aqurium tal-hut ta'l-ilma helu) u fis-sajf b'dik ix-xemx taqli iz-zwiemel. Veru ma'sarux ghanalazi sewwa ta'sitwazzjoni, kollox ,YES SIR'. Ahna bhala poplu li nhallsu dawk it-taxxi kollha jixirqilna ahjar, jew sa' nkomplu nghidu imbaghad id-Dejn ihallsuh ulied uliedna.
James Grima
Feb 20th 2010, 12:38
What a gentleman and truely a great prime minister is Dr. Gonzi, denju of a great party, which is governing a small, young, and prosperous Malta. Dan il progett kbir jixhed il vizjoni kompleta tal gvern tal maltin kollha, u jikkonferma li ahna fost l aqwa fl EU. Proset, ghandek l istima tal poplu malti kollu. Let the little red elves cry in jealosy. Msieken nitthassarhom.
alfred fenech
Feb 20th 2010, 12:02
What a waste of Public Money. One it could go down in better roads for our esteemed
Visiters and perhaps for the locals in the end.
Secondly, Have all of us forgotton the old Valletta entrance converted into an unsightly bridge.
Our money carers should be more carefull on how it is spent and leaving peanuts for the poor people.
D,magro
Feb 20th 2010, 08:56
Who is going to finance this ? Have we got any diplomats who are capable of getting a bargin with Germany. It was the germans who did the mess, and have we got the guts to ask Merkel and her government to pump up funds so that we bulid what the Germans and Italians did make a mess of. Nafu ninnegozzjaw jew ghal pozi biss ahna?
lgalea
Feb 19th 2010, 00:22
J Martinelli The vast majority of MAltese citizens apart from the pn apologists do not care a hoot if we continue arguing for another sixty years Martinelli because it is OUR taxes that have to make good for the SQUANDERING by the Gonzi-Piano due in the process of destroying and vandalizing our capital city.
Joe Azzopardi
Feb 18th 2010, 22:53
@ Joe Xuereb
'Great men get it into their heads that they want to leave their mark. Architects are notorious for this. They want to leave behind a signature building that will forever remind the common people that so-and-so passed there’.
Most of our heritage came into being that way. Malta would be but a desolate rock like Panteleria had it not been for the mark left by the Temple builders, the Knights and Grand Masters, and to the British.
@ Dr Gonzi. Stick to the plan, it’s the best idea ever for this site.
Anthony Pace Gouder
Feb 18th 2010, 19:38
The big question is .......How and why did Dr.Gonzi secretly appoint Renzo Piano on this project which one fine day in June '09 the plans were unveiled , when practically no one had a clue of what was going on? Actually nobody was expecting this project !
Now , the PM is even attributing the idea behind the whole venture as being Renzo Piano's , to enhance our Capital City ! All the IDEAS are his ,and solely HIS . Dr. Gonzi has nothing to do with it !
Joseph Grech-Attard
Feb 18th 2010, 19:08
Another trip to Paris for further discussions? Why not? Take KMB with you Dr. Gonzi. he was the first one to suggest Piano way back in 1987 - and at that time Piano's plans were rejected by the then PN!!
marco meli
Feb 18th 2010, 18:48
calm down everybody! we can have both!!! we can stick to renzo's open air theathre and we can put some canvas on when we want it roofed!!! what about that Dr gonzi?
Joe Xuereb
Feb 18th 2010, 17:56
This has the hallmark of arrogance written all over it. 'Great' men get it into their heads that they want to leave their mark. Architects are notorious for this. They want to leave behind a signature building that will forever remind the common people that so-and-so passed there. Nororiously, architects, especially the ones with an ego as big as their bank-balance, are not happy with one signature building. They want another and then another. Building roughshod over common people's sensitivities. Politicians (often) and Prime Ministers (even more so) are cuts of the same 'pezza' (bail of cloth) and when they get together on some project, there is no stopping them. Sure, they will offer sops to the people like 'we are open to discussion' but in the end they do their own thing. They are the 'great' the 'untouchables'.
On a general note, may I remind readers that politicians' noblest ambition is to aspire to Premiership and achieving it. What greater self-aggrandisement than a guarantee of one's name in history books, in perpetuity. The accolade is everything. If remembrance is not so sweet, who cares. One's dead. And immortal in a book.
Frank Bowman
Feb 18th 2010, 17:27
Ok, so the PM is ready for discussion, a bit too late I think, you are already committed Mr.Gonzi. Again, why bring up Mr.Piano to discuss, are you not able to listen and pass on the final instructive orders to the architect?
Piano came up with his (so called artistic) ideas, are we sure this is what the people want?
It must be a Maltese Work of Art! We have hundreds of intelligent architects that can do a better job if you put a few together on a round table.
How can anyone say that this project is an investment? It is an expense not only in creating it but also in maintaining. The theatre must give a return - not only cultural but also a financial one.
Using any design for the outside skin of the theatre, and by lowering roofs of each floor, it can hold three different theatres - spread on three floors. See how Cinemas are being built or renovated today. Each theatre will perform a different art, we can have training salons, artist rooms, and administrative areas. A basement warehouse for props and equipment. A Catering area. And a Recording Studio.
That's all
Kevin Zammit
Feb 18th 2010, 17:05
Someone here said it right ... we already have a plan for the theater ... Barry's plan!
The English did not leave much else except for forts and death but with that theater they had made up for all of it big time!
We were so lucky to have such a design in the first place! .... why are we squandering this opportunity that was so generously given to us?
It would be our Dresden Church.
victor pulis
Feb 18th 2010, 15:57
Somehow I have a strange feeling that Renzo Piano will succeed in 'persuading' the artists and that the project will go on...But I may be wrong!
james grech
Feb 18th 2010, 15:26
As usual Dr Gonzi has approached this issue in a top down manner rather then bottom up, as he so highly acclaimed that his government would be, i.e. one that is open for discussion. Dr. Gonzi of his own accord decided that he has is the sacrosanct owner of the theatre's site and that he alone can decide what to do with it. So he embarked onto showing us how strongly willed and capable he is in addressing the people's needs and tastes. Instead of first discussing with the various entities and experts from the different spheres, he took the whole thing upon himself, since he thought that he knows everything and can liberally decide. The inverse should have applied. Dr. Gonzi should have sought the guidance and advice of a team of experts who would consult others and come up with a conclusion that would be the most suitable for this very important site. But this is GonziPN, "l ewwel ifattarha imbaghad irid jirrangha".
J Martinelli
Feb 18th 2010, 14:59
It is quite interesting that the Prime Minister has received a petition signed by some 128 artistes regarding the rebuilding of the old Opera House and which included Joseph Calleja's signature, among notable others.
What I fail to understand is, that Joseph Calleja who has performed so admirably several times in recent months at the Met in NYC, did not notice that the Met's stage is even larger than the whole site occupied by the former Opera House in Valletta!
So, why not transform the whole site into a modern, well equipped stage as required for modern opera and other performances and let the audience watch from the street? This way the complex will consist of a roofed stage and the audience can watch al fresco.
The alternative will be sixty more years of discussion, yet no action, as experience should have already taught us!
Andrew Camilleri
Feb 18th 2010, 14:55
The Times should explain why it has only reported Dr. Gonzi's comments and not Dr. Gatt's. On PBS news we only heard about Dr. Gatt's confirmation of a fait accompli. Why has the Times not reported Dr. Gatt's comments? Second, I love the way the pro-PN camp now find it a great thing that Dr. Gonzi is willing to discuss with the 'artistes'. Only yesteray the same camp were telling the same 'artistes'' not to interfere and to basically shut up and get lost. What a funny world we live in!!
Mario Farrugia
Feb 18th 2010, 14:35
Can the Prime Minister please explain what on earth there is to discuss????? Why doesn't he admit that this Piano idea is all a load of crap? Who cares if "it's the idea of Renzo Piano"? So what? Who is this Renzo Piano after all? Some infallible genius, at par with God? Haven't we paid him enough money already for presenting to us a load of rubbish? Send him packing!! And admit once and for all that a roofless building (be it a theatre or whatever it may be) just DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! One does not need to be some University graduate, or an Einstein, to realise that the idea of a roofless building is absurd.
Laurence Zerafa
Feb 18th 2010, 13:52
"But Dr Gonzi emphasised that the concept of an open-air theatre was Mr Piano's brainchild and not the government's."
Piano was reported by the Times of Malta on the 22nd of June 2009 (A magic city in a magic island http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090622/local/a-magic-city-in-a-magic-island) as stating "But even here, there has been a lot of listening going on. The building will not only house Parliament but a public library too, as suggested by a group (MaLIA) that joined the fray "... and further on "We want to put on the ground floor of the Parliament a function that is public. I don't think that there will be shops there... the shops are already there. I think we have to put there a dignified, noble activity. We are thinking about a library..."
But by Saturday 27th June when the official plans were unveiled the public got to know that beneath Parliament there will be a museum of political development and history instead of a public library.
Who dropped Piano's concept and brainchild in this case and within just 5 days? And why?
Laurence Zerafa
Chairperson MaLIA
S Borg
Feb 18th 2010, 13:29
Other sectors need the funds allocated for this project. This project will not alleviate the burdens carried by Maltese industries and Maltese families alike.
Joseph E Briffa
Feb 18th 2010, 13:16
First of all I would like to congratulate the PM for his immediate acceptance to discuss the project with the people that are in the business. This is the essence of wisdom and democracy. Secondly, if I had to cast my vote on the project I would (1) go for the original Barry theatre (2) FORGET about the proposed parliament building ALTOGETHER at this stage, and (3) if another venue for parliament is indicated, then one should think of housing it in an EXISTING building say, an Auberge, or St Elmo. and perish the thought of a NEW building.
Jesmond Micallef
Feb 18th 2010, 12:50
ASpiteri, funny you mention the naton's Highest Institution, some other building comes to mind here in Baroque Valletta. !!!
Mike Magri
Feb 18th 2010, 12:43
Will the REAL Prime Minister PLEASE STAND UP.....!!??!!??!!
Confusion Galore.....
Gerard Cassar
Feb 18th 2010, 12:15
Dr. Gonzi thePrime Minister and Capo of the P.N. is more focused on the next lections than on any other thing.
ASpiteri
Feb 18th 2010, 11:59
May i advise the prime minister that the people’s concerns about this whole project aren’t limited to those raised by these artists!
The people are opposing the project...
...the concept of the gateless city gate, back to its original glory or might as well leave the present garage door...
...the parliament futuristic plans in a baroque city such as valletta and having the country’s highest institution facing a block of apartments...
...and most of all, the people’s aspiration for the theatre is to see it back to its original glory of Barry’s magnificent architecture!
anything else from these 3 uncompromising stands will only help boosting the current persistent opposition from the people!
Adrian Gouder
Feb 18th 2010, 11:55
Oh the lot of you, one simply cannot win or do the right thing! I'm simply happy the government humbly accepted to re-open discussions, even if Dr. Gatt said it's final. It's always better than hard-headedness. Dr. Gonzi is known to be hard and fast, but also to be malleable when faced with reason. Is this a bad thing too? My complements to the Government for its courage to do what's right.
ray sacco
Feb 18th 2010, 11:39
does mr.piano know what goes on in summer over here? how can an open air theatre function with all the bumms and bangs from the daily loud festa fireworks? only last summer, in hastings gardens, a foreign band had to stop playing due to continuous noise from petards.
Joe bartolo
Feb 18th 2010, 11:37
I really don't understand how Dr. Tonio Borg is the deputy Prime Minister when it is amply clear that Dr. Austin Gatt is far more visible and energetic and able to take on the bull by the horns. He is clearly also more than ready and able to take over when Dr. Gonzi retires.
Its just a suggestion but perhaps therefore Dr. Gonzi should consider appointing Dr. Gatt his deputy so as to smoothen the succession planning process and avoid future damaging internal battles?
Jimmy Magro
Feb 18th 2010, 11:33
For those bloggers, rightly so, that have noticed the difference between Minister Gatt and PM Gonzi, this is a difference in character. Gatt has no politics in him and he is like a bulldozer; whilst PM Gonzi puts out a smile and extend his hands.
I would come to the conclusion that at the end the decision would remain the same. Both persons have their own way of reaching their destination, but the destination is common to both.
If the "cultural" people feel so strong about their cause, the theatre should not only be boycotted by the "players" but also by the audience - that is the taxpayers. But this will never happen as our nation has a "dysfunctional political system riddled with brain-dead partisanship"; but we are not alone ! Take a look at this !
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1137
S Camilleri
Feb 18th 2010, 11:21
Why does Mr Piano want to preserve the 'open' space of the demolished Opera House and at the same time build over the piazza with glass and concrete? This administration has a problem with open spaces - they are seen only as an opportunity to place a building, wherever they are.
ASpiteri
Feb 18th 2010, 11:10
May i advice the prime minister that the people’s concerns about this whole project aren’t limited to those raised by these artists!
The people are opposing the project...
...the concept of the gateless city gate, back to its original glory or might as well leave the present garage door...
...the parliament futuristic plans in a baroque city such as valletta and having the country’s highest institution facing a block of apartments...
...and most of all, the people’s aspiration for the theatre is to see it back to its original glory of Barry’s magnificent architecture!
anything else from these 3 uncompromising stands will only help boosting the current persistent opposition from the people!
Gabriel A. Pellegrini
Feb 18th 2010, 11:08
How about reversing the scheme.....we will have our Royal Opera House back in all its glory, splendour....and Renzo Piano will prepare designs for a topless and glass walled Parliament.....just for the sake of transparency
E. Abela
Feb 18th 2010, 11:04
Why all this fuss about having an open or closed theatre when 80% of the local population do not attend CULTURAL events ?
Ramon Casha
Feb 18th 2010, 11:04
@F Grech: "The decision is taken but he will explain in much more detail the pros and cons and why the Govt has taken that decision."
That is not what I understand by dialogue or discussion. If the PM's plan for this meeting is to "explain in much more detail", then this meeting is a waste of everyone's time. What's lacking is not an opportunity for the PM or Piano to explain their plans, but for some feedback to flow in the opposite direction.
Anthony Pace Gouder
Feb 18th 2010, 11:02
Nispera li din mhux bhall' hekk imsejha konsultazzjoni qabel kull Budgit u wara li jghollu il-kontijiet tal-ilma u d-dawl ! "Retro Consultation" , kif giet deskritta tant tajjeb .
L-EWWEL tittiehed id-decizjoni u wara nikkonsultaw . Saddatant il-Ministru Gatt jiddikjara li d'decizjoni ittiehdet u DAQSHEKK ! ....Lil-minn taqbad temmen !!!!!
Probbabilment hekk hi, dawn jiltaqghu madwar mejda,iwebbilhom u JIPPROPONILHOM xi haga gdida , u jghalqilhom halqhom. Fuq kollox il-maggoranza kbira tal-Poplu hi kontra dan il-progett MILL-BIDU SA L-AHHAR , u mhux il-128 artist biss !
Ser nerga nipproduci hawnhekk , binja li bhala tkun tixraq verament id-dahla tal-Belt . http://www.panoramio.com/photo/2507371 http://www.panoramio.com/photo/24840435
J Cardona
Feb 18th 2010, 10:57
PRAISE THE LORD! Someone decided to listen!
The New City Gate Proposal... OK!
The Rehabilitation of Housing Estate... OK!
The New Parliament... (If you must!)... OK!
The Pedestrianisation of Valletta... OK!
The Upgrade of St George's Square... OK!
The Restoration of St James Cavalier... OK!
----------------------- BUT -------------------------------
The Open Air Theatre!... NO! NO! NO! It is all wrong!
So don't mess up your track record Gonzi!
And don't leave us with a bitter taste, please!
Renzo Piano knows nothing about Malta's public sentiment on the Theatre
Lets hope something fruitful comes out of this dialogue...
Adriano Spiteri
Feb 18th 2010, 10:42
If this is Piano's brainchild he should ifnd another third world country to implement the project in.
Dr Gonzi should discuss the 'Barry theatre' not the 'Open theatre' project.
philip pace
Feb 18th 2010, 10:39
To Mr.Joe Vella.
The Rolling Stones song that you mentioned is called 'Out Of Time'. What you mentioned is a line from the same song.
Though I feel strongly that the decision has been taken, I would think about attending the 'consultive dialogue'.
But when, where and at what time shall it place?
I hope that it would not be a small hall to discourage the artistes plus others like me from attending.
I would be there as long as Mr.Piano attends.
And you?
H Dempster
Feb 18th 2010, 10:35
Did Renzo Piano realize when submitting his brain child to Gonzi that the audience will have to sit in the sun, or moonlight and will have to have an umbrella to protect them from sunshine, dew , rain and pigeon shit, to enjoy Macbeth or Il paese dei Campanelli. Thats a good idea , we take our unbrella to go to the theatre.
Lawrence Fenech
Feb 18th 2010, 10:22
About time Mr. Gonzi. The artistes are not enough the rest of the population wants its say in this National Project. Let us have a referendum for the outcome unless you wish to have a roofless (useless) open air parliament.
Hector Zammit
Feb 18th 2010, 10:18
Further to my previous message, my comment with regards the Freedom Square I suggested that it remained a square but not as it is now a flat platform used only for parking and carnival. I meant a well designed pjazza with the newly designed theatre and the bastions as its background. The square would include some kind of monument (not like the one at Luqa) of high cultural and artistic value possibly made by a world famous sculptor.
J.Borg
Feb 18th 2010, 10:18
How can we be so naive......Minister Gatt says it's final and Prime MInister says he is open to discussions. Haven't we enough history on what discussions mean for the PN governemnt......we already know that the plans are ready and submitted to MEPA....so who will think that the Prime Minister will change his idea. That will be the day.
For me, the theatre is to be built on the site (with a roof) and if need be as we were told that is area is small, the theather can be enlarged sideways taking up the street and part of the square. The remaining area will be left as a square which is needed on entering our capital city and which will adormn the theathre's facade.
Surely parlament can be located in a building in valletta, one building in mind is the Baviera which can easily be refurbished and also ample parking space for members of parlament is available.
But as usual with this governemnt, they discuss after the decisions have been taken.
Wouldn't it have been mor ideal if the governemnt met with the artisists before contacting Mr.Piano!!!!!
Henry J Bonett
Feb 18th 2010, 10:17
It is absolutely NOT necessary for Piano to 'explain the limitations of the site'. The cause of that limitation is none other than the insertion of an unnecessary parliament on the rightful site of a much needed centre for arts. Dicussion under that condition is already undermining dialogue.
Hector Zammit
Feb 18th 2010, 10:11
Just three short suggestions about the whole design concept as I know that several other Maltese architects share a similar opinion.
1. The Theatre should have a monumental facade which should leave a long lasting impression on who enters the City. It would practically be the first building as one enters the city.
2. The Square should be left as an open space, enlarged by removing the arcades thus exposing the bastions. Why expose the bastions and then screen them again with another building.
3. The parliament should be built on the Main Guard (St. George's Square) opposite the Presidential palace. This building is large enough on three floors to house all the spatial requirements for a parliament.
Any more suggestions anyone?
georgina portelli
Feb 18th 2010, 10:08
A roofless theatre that will in reality be a non starter, of course it will always remain Prof Piano's brainchild. One would have thought the limitations of the site would have been quite apparent hence the incredulity at the proposition of a roofless theatre. Prof Piano has a wide enough portfolio of excellent closed spaces for art and culture, why Valletta doesn't deserve one with a roof is mystifying. How will that serve the purpose of culture and creativity within the local context? One hopes that the Prime Minister’s offer of dialogue is a sincere exercise particularly in light of Minister Gatt's declaration of 'fait accompli'. Limited use is exclusive. It is intriguing that an 'open' space should render itself oppressive to the very artistic community it hopes to inspire. The roofless theatre proclaims itself an undemocratic space, a paradox to the proposed parliament building next to it meant to celebrate Maltese democratic aspirations. Once again Creativity falls by the wayside.
Andre` Micallef
Feb 18th 2010, 10:05
As the well-known Maltese adage goes, vapur b'zewg kaptani ma jimxix. It's becoming more evident with each passing month that Lawrence Gonzi (Prime Minister 1) and Austin Gatt (Prime Minister 2) are not on the same wavelength, and not only on the issue of the proposed theatre project.
In any case, the proposed idea of an open-air theatre in an urban environment, even if it comes from a world-renowned architect like Renzo Piano, simply does not hold water for several reasons. First of all, there's the weather to factor in. So this already rules out performances during the winter, when the cultural season as regards performing arts would be in full swing. Second, I very much doubt if the acoustics would be up to standard in an open-air space, not to mention the surrounding noise (festa fireworks first and foremost) which is prevalent during the long Maltese summer. I get the feeling that the taxpayer would be paying for more money down the drain for an impractical caprice of a stubborn and pig-headed administration. I say it without hesitation that Government would be taking leave of its senses if it had to adopt Piano's brief for the open-air theatre. Period.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 18th 2010, 09:50
@ Christopher Borg: Surely you did not vote PN solely because of Gonzi, did you? You do not describe a party on the 'integrity' of one man, its leader. Otherwise, there is a name for that and it's not democracy!
M Borg
Feb 18th 2010, 09:50
Just when a big majority of the Maltese people are facing a steep rise to the everyday life, with burdens such as the water and electricity bills, fuel, and gas cylinders .... and just when Malta, together with many european countries is facing a recession ...... Gonzi PN is thinking of how to spend all these millions on a project that can easily wait better economical times.
Nathalie Zammit
Feb 18th 2010, 09:50
"gibna wiehed mill-ikbar periti ta' repuatazzjoi internazzjonali" (video)
I thought that Piano was so in love with Malta that he had decided to come and give his proposals for Valletta. This is what our Gonzi had said.
Lets face it - I do not wish our capital city to be ruined and robbed of all its historic worth by modern projects which do not befit a city classified as a "world heritage".
I (and many others), honestly wish that Valletta is restored to its former glory by having the City Gate and the Royal Opera House built as similar as possible to the original ones, thus ensuring that Valletta continues to deserve to be called "a city built by gentlemen for gentlemen"
We re talking about space and yet Piano has proposed a House of Parliament instead of Freedom Square, ironically ! Indeed, if this parliament is built instead of the square then we will be truly suffocating Valletta !
Gonzi for once open your ears and listen to what most of the people want !
A Bezzina
Feb 18th 2010, 09:50
Dr Gatt, yesterday on TVM news:
"Others are entitled to voice there opinion on the matter, that is the good thing about democracy".
From which I deduce that the definition of democracy is 'The ability to voice one's opinion even when contradictory to the opinion of authority (without being terminated)'!
U.S. president Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) defined democracy as:
Government of the people, by the people, for the people.
This debate is whether the decision for the theatre to be built as presented (topless) is based on democratic principles.
Government of the people: Yes
Government by the people: Yes as they are the representatives of the people elected by a democratic election process.
Government for the people: In this issue apparently not, for if 124 'persons knowledgeable in the requirements of a theatre' have voiced their opposition, who else would be considered to be knowledgeable of a theatre's requirements? Surely one can argue that the electorate has given Government power to decide in the name of the people.
Compare this to firing a shot.
Government of the people: place a bullet in the rifle magazine
Government by the people: pull the trigger.
Government for the people: hit the target.
Paul Barrett
Feb 18th 2010, 09:49
I doubt that any of the "powers that be" are listening but It would appear that their is a reasonable groundswell of opinion that is not happy with an open air theatre. In addition their is a fairly strong opinion that a new Parliament building which apart from being out of sync with the heritage style of other Valletta buildings, is hardly a vital requirement in these times of financial hardship.
Back to the drawing board (or in the case of Mr Piano, should that be key board).
Adriano Spiteri
Feb 18th 2010, 09:46
PM should better discuss the 'Barry theatre' rather than the 'open theatre'.
Almost all people I spoke with about this project disagree. Piano should find another location to implement such a project (his brainchild). Another third world country maybe.
Dr Gonzi will not be allowed to proceed with this madness.
Marco Cremona
Feb 18th 2010, 09:43
Wasn't it earlier this week that Lawrence Gonzi and Austin Gatt said that the decision is final? Is it final or is it not?
If it was/is final, what's there to discuss?
D Vella
Feb 18th 2010, 09:38
Build the Theatre and do away with the Parliament building. It is neither wanted nor necessary.
Kevin Zammit
Feb 18th 2010, 09:38
Wow! ... the public is really being taken for a fool by this PM!
So now its Piano's fault!!! The architect can only do so much with the budget he's given!
Before making such a statement Mr PM please do tell us how you asked him to allocate the budget in the first place!
What was it? A ration of 90% for your beloved parliament building on stilts without a river and 10% for the theatre?
Of course ... why waste money with the masses would'nt you say?
Franco Farrugia
Feb 18th 2010, 09:37
But it is OUR capital city, not Piano's!
Alex Tanti
Feb 18th 2010, 09:36
Bi
flus
il-Poplu
kollox possibbli
GONZIpn....
Bert Demanuele
Feb 18th 2010, 09:36
Seems like Dr Gonzi is now intent on swallowing back his own spit - or is it Austin Gatt's? He should start heeding Albert Enstein's wise words: Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character.
L. Coleiro
Feb 18th 2010, 09:35
Hurry up Mr. PM or else the project will not be ready by the next General Election
lgalea
Feb 18th 2010, 09:34
The only thing that Gonzi should be discussing is the date of an early election.
Vince DeBono
Feb 18th 2010, 09:33
3 Options. And What I choose.
1. Rebuild. Historically accurate and it will blend in faster than any other post-Baroque designs.
2. Piano's option. This is what the Malta Council of the Arts have done in recent years - an open air theatre (minus the underground changing rooms) with temporary stage/ lights / seating. However Piano's plan makes the 'temporary structure' a permanent fixture. This means the setting cannot be adapted for the particular season's theme... well it can but the cost each season will be as much as if there was no Piano intervention. So we can get an open air theatre without the appendages and COST of the current proposals.
3. Leave the site as it is today and set up the theatre props/lights etc as needed. The rest of the year, the site should be open to the public as a 'Musem / Exhibition TO THE FUTILITY AND DESTRUCTION OF WAR' . Permanent Bronze / Ceramic plaques and temporary exhibitions + planters and a few benches will be an educational experience.
Obviously I prefer Option 3.
victor zammit
Feb 18th 2010, 09:28
That’s good news. The theatre could be a creation of Mr Piano, like the Pompidou Centre or Pei’s Louvre Pyramid are, controversial as they may be but not to be tinkered with.
But the city entrance is another matter. It does not, with respect to the great architect, belong to Mr Piano. He’d appreciate that. Perhaps short or renovation/restoration, the entrance and the city defy innovation. We’ve been there before. A similar pressure group like the artists’, could drive a change. I remember a prominent historian saying that geraniums ill sit on window sills of Palazzo Ferreria. Let alone such radical changes. You’d be changing the whole show-case as it were.
With Parliament, that is the most controversial bit for reasons already aired. St George’s Square seems to be the most suited. And the square would near completion, as Architect Andrè Zammit aptly pointed out in his letter to this paper of 7th January 2010.
It is always good to have a Piano anywhere any time but I fear we are having one too many for a not too big baroque city. That will downsize the attraction. Mr Piano can ill afford to be indicted for inappropriate planning for Valletta.
Turu Dimech
Feb 18th 2010, 09:14
Dawn in_Nazzjonalisti ghandhom habta jaghddu n-nies biz-zmien. Filli l-ministru Austin Gatt Jghid li d-decizjoni issa hi mehudha, filli l-Prim Ministru jghid li hu lest ghad-djalogu. Din bhal tad-dawl u l-ilma. Il-gvern jghid li hu lest jiddiskuti it-tariffi tad-dawl u l-ilma meta ga ha id-decizjoni. Ftit serjeta jekk joghgobkom.
Adriano Spiteri
Feb 18th 2010, 09:13
PM should better discuss the 'Barry theatre' rather than the 'open theatre'.
Almost all people I spoke with about this project disagree. Piano should find another location to implement such a project (his brainchild). Another third world country maybe.
Dr Gonzi will not be allowed to proceed with this madness.
Henry J Bonett
Feb 18th 2010, 09:10
.It is absolutely NOT necessary for Piano to 'explain the limitations of the site'. The cause of that limitation is none other than the insertion of an unnecessary parliament on the rightful site of a much needed centre for arts. Dicussion under that condition is already undermining dialogue.
Charles Caligari Conti
Feb 18th 2010, 09:10
Thank you - at last !!
Maybe whilst they are at it they can also discuss having a Majestic Gate for Valletta (see examples at Bieb tal Bombi, Victoria Gate, Bieb is-Sultan and others including the old ones from archival photos) and
an alternative place for Parliament so that the square can become something beautiful like Palace Square at Valletta itself.
Joe Busuttil
Feb 18th 2010, 09:06
It's no use blaming Piano for that roofless thing. You are the client and you should have stated what you wanted. As for consultations don't you think it's a bit late in the day as you have been receiving suggestions for months now and you haven't taken any notice of what was suggested? What does it take to make you see reason,La Vallette's ghost in the middle of the night by your bed?.
Marisa Bugeja
Feb 18th 2010, 09:03
Mr Piano should be told that it is not only these artistes who are against the idea of an open-air theatre but also a large percentage of the Maltese people. After all, it is the audience who will have to brave wind, rain, oppressive heat and humidity not to mention disturbing noises interfering with the performance. Let us hope dialogue will lead to an honourable solution.
g.c.Forte
Feb 18th 2010, 09:00
Mr. Prime Minister....Stop wasting our money and dump,scrap and throw away the whole project,because after you are going to bow in front of the artists,you have to accept the fact that we need a nice Gate to enter our City, we can do without a parliament ,if you and the rest of the members "from both sides" feel that you are suffocating in the present parliament, reduce 5 from each side. Who is going to enjoy a garden in a ditch,with only 2 hours of sun and the only view is the bastions. I have been asking... from where the delivery vehicles are going to give services to shops and residents, when Pope Puis V road is going to be abolish. I am 100% sure that this road will not be abolished. Anyway it is another " U " turn. I hope that the P.N. apologists are taking a note of how many "U " turns GonziP.N. did so far, because I lost counting.
A. Attard
Feb 18th 2010, 08:56
"flimkien kollox possibli".....yes...that is very true....many things can be done if people unite together.
but somehow...somewhere....something is going wrong. one says one thing. another says another thing. and nobody knows which version to believe. is it a case of separate opinions? has teamwork finished? where is the united front which we were so used to seeing in the past?
D Fenech
Feb 18th 2010, 08:56
Yes Mr. Prime Minister who is telling the truth? Are we being hoodwincked?
Why is it so difficult for you to listen to Maltese Brains?
Paino's "brainchild"?
SAD!
Mike Magri
Feb 18th 2010, 08:53
To Whom It May Concern....
WILL THE REAL PRIME MINISTER PLEASE STAND UP...!!??!!??!!??
Thank You..
renald williams
Feb 18th 2010, 08:53
"Piano believes that it should remain an open space for our country to have a variety of spaces to be used for art and culture."
... do not reduce our open space by building the square, we already lack open spaces and greenery, should we reduce more? peace and health
Karl Abela
Feb 18th 2010, 08:51
Why did the artists speak up now? The plans have been public since months.
Ara vera ta, in this blessed country you will always find a spanner in your works. They should have spoken up much earlier.
J Borg
Feb 18th 2010, 08:49
So Mr Piano is a demigod. His brainchild is a wacking bank account. Are there no Architects in this country. Does it have to cost a bomb (pun intended as basically that is what started this situation in the first place!) to design a plot of land the size of a golf ball. Or is this a legacy project by our PM for him to be remembered by ... a sort of pyramid funded by the modern day slaves. EFA has Mater Dei Gonzi will have Parlament/Royal Opera House. Mr Piano believes...and has believed 30 years before though his previous beliefs were shelved. Why not rename Valletta to Piano City or Pianotta since it seems only he knows what is good for Valletta. Come on Maltese Architects propose something Jean Parisot de la Valette will be proud of. Tomorrow may be too late
clive borg
Feb 18th 2010, 08:46
That shows that even between themselves that doesnt know what they want! They just dont talk to each other! Austin says its final, PM says hes ready to discuss!
And at least Austin Gatt instead of going into conclusions should have said he'll try to talk to PM rather , than going against the wish of the 128 artists + more , just saying the PM has already decided its going to be roofless and its better roofless than nothing!
Poor attempt to convince the maltese! We dont want to build the place for you to inawgurate it, we want the better of the place for to be used, cos its useless doing something that is what the most dont want!
joe vella
Feb 18th 2010, 08:45
hi there mr prime minister here's a good one for you
you may opt to use the Rolling Stones song - You're Out Of Touch My Baby - as the opening theme of the new theatre, that is, once it is ready
who the hell is right? yourself or austin? sorry but you confuse us poor simpletons!
D. Scerri
Feb 18th 2010, 08:38
Wake up Mr Prime Minister! How come your minister said on TV that the plans will go through as agreed and without changes?
Wilfred Attard
Feb 18th 2010, 08:38
Steve rogers if we take your advice this site has been in ruins for 50 years and it will take another 5,000 years to decide what to do on this blessed land of ours. God forbid if ever the Knights of Malta took any advice from the pueblo, because otherwise Valletta would never have been built, with all the asteroids and with all the arrogant elite we have in our midst, Malta would never have even had its fortifications,. Decisions must be taken and prices have to be paid, and this government has the guts of doing what others are saying it's impossible.
Joseph A Borg
Feb 18th 2010, 08:36
The prime minister is giving the 128 signatories a chance to meet Renzo Piano. i doubt things are going to change, but it's a good opportunity for the 128 signatories to get the reasons why Mr Piano decided on such a scheme.
I hope the time will be used constructively and respectfully.
We don't need another closed, half-baked theatre.
John Schembri
Feb 18th 2010, 08:35
Enough already. Call this government? Pay lip service to dialogue and then go ahead and do what you want anyway. I remember we were promised dialogue before the last election. So much promised, so little delivered, so much taken. What extravagance in these tight times. The NP didn't used to be this way, not when we fought against oppression. It has now become "il-Partit tas-sinjuri".
J. Sciberras
Feb 18th 2010, 08:33
This is the new meaning of consultations according to the New Government Dictioney,
1. The right hand does not know what the left hand is doing, or even worse,
2. Let’s make fun and waist more presious time and taxes payers’ money.
And who said that this government does not discuss issues before a decision is taken!!!!
philip pace
Feb 18th 2010, 08:27
From this report, I can pick out some interesting points.
1. If as according to the PM that this was Piano's brainchild, then it should be Mr.Piano himself to be present not his represenatives.
2. It is our money, our culture and our satisfaction involved in all of this. If Mr.Piano wants to build his brainchild then he should find some other country to do so. maybe his homeland but not in Malta!
3. If the Piano concepts and limitations are what is going to be discussed then it would be a simple waste of time as the decision has already been taken. No any other alternative was mentioned.
4. Apart from the fact that being a roofless theatre, there is the safety factor that has not been mentioned as well as acoustics and other things. I know this from hard experience in the many places that I was involved in the local cultural scene.
5. From my dictionary (Oxford) an artiste means a professional singer, dancer etc. I simply want to know if a philosopher is an artiste?
4. Consulation? Since when where evrything pinpoints that a decision has been already taken!
mario scerri
Feb 18th 2010, 08:19
Tajjeb li jiddiskuti. Imma x tip ta diskussjoni? lhalli l-kulhadd jghid tieghu mbad xorta jaghmel fattih?
Kif ghamel fuq il-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma. Suppost qed jiddiskuti w sadattant hareg l-avviz legali w it-tariffi l-godda gew fis-sehh? Dan dahk fil-wicc u hela ta hin mhux diskussjoni.
laurence schembri
Feb 18th 2010, 08:06
@ F. Williams
You should ask, who is running the country? This is not the first instance that the PM and Austin Gatt contradicted each other within hours of issued statements.
Christopher Borg
Feb 18th 2010, 08:06
Let's not forget that the slogan for the last election was GonziPN.....what slim majority this government holds is thanks to his integrity. I believe it's high time that people like Mr.Gatt are removed form office. They should practice their tactics in third world countries.
r cutajar
Feb 18th 2010, 08:05
Majestic and a certain mystique should radiate from such projects and their surroundings with so much knowledge availabile such should be actual working projects
Can Malta and Valletta entrance afford to botch up ??
Personally parliament is a place where unluckily politicians are advocating something knowing full well that it is not so therefore i do not like such a building which gives such a mi screud sense of justice opposing mirrors non reflecting ! explai that ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
'for God's sake alleniate us from Politics and in the meantime one can move such venues to the other far end of the city that is how to rehabiliate by USING IT Valletta must be USED and only then Vallatta GIVES
F Grech
Feb 18th 2010, 08:02
Is it that difficult to understand that the PM has chosen to discuss the proposal with the artists? The decision is taken but he will explain in much more detail the pros and cons and why the Govt has taken that decision. If the PM is convinced by the artists, or whoever is in the dialogue, that the decision is a wrong one it will not be the end of the world. This is what makes Lawrence Gonzi the leader he is. When the PM discusses he is criticized for not taking a decision, when he takes a decision he is criticized about not discussing - he cannot win.
Always the usual Super One drone "who is LYING?". He is our leader and the sooner we respect just what a great job he is doing in exceptionally difficult times the sooner we begin to understand that what is important in this country is leadership and results and not cheap words.
And to all those that will mention the electricity tariffs give us an alternative to paying for that oil - a real alternative today not what should have happened when the price of oil was unimportant!
N Cordina
Feb 18th 2010, 08:02
Typical Austin, Typical Lawrence!
patrick pace
Feb 18th 2010, 08:01
Mnalla dan id-disgwid kollu mhux qed isir taht gvern laburista ghax holl xaghrek u gib iz-zejt.
Steve Rogers
Feb 18th 2010, 07:39
Mr. PM if you want open spaces then don't remove the square by building this new parliament!
It's Piano's brainchild. Great. Tell him its our money and we build what we want not what he wants.
Roderick Mizzi
Feb 18th 2010, 07:39
It is good to discuss things but I cannot why setting up this meeting when Austin Gatt already told us that the decision is already taken and there will be no changes! If Austin Gatt is right, then this meeting is useless and the prime minister is trying to fool all of us!
F.Williams
Feb 18th 2010, 07:34
For the sake of correctness and team unity, can somebody explain why Minister Gatt says "Its a Final Decision" during PBS news and the Prime Minister is saying the contrary?
Joseph Grech
Feb 18th 2010, 07:31
Confusing Mr Prime Minister. Yesterday Austin declared on TV that the decision is final....Now you are ready to dialogue with our 150 artists, dancers, actors, etc....Who is telling the truth ?