Accused of being drunk and defiling two children

stefan grima

Feb 18th 2010, 15:10

nobody is saying any immigrant should be granted any advantage over maltese citizens: the law is the same for everyone, including immigrants. they do not have the same rights as a maltese citizen, but they do have legal rights which are to be respected.

Joseph Schembri

Feb 17th 2010, 09:40

One of the reasons that there are long waiting lists in court is that many people, like this man, are ending up in court when they shouldn't. The police have the power to arrest anyone and put them for 48 hours in a little dark cell. If they wanted to punish him that would have been enough. No waiting lists, no expense (bar a few sandwiches and mugs of coffee).

The police could have done this if no formal complaint was lodged by some hysterical parent.

Guze Xerri

Feb 16th 2010, 21:51

These do good apologists will soon be defending the action of the next Somali who fires a firearm on the streets of Malta, as that will be explained away by them as" their cultural right" because it is what they do in Mogadishu !!
Ignorance of the law is never an excuse anywhere in the world.
Try doing what this Somali did in Germany or Japan or Switzerland or Saudi Arabia even.
I am sure their local police would have given him a pass jail card because of cultural sensitivities.
Give us a break Dr Gonzi and start to repatriate these people to where they came from, enough is enough.

Trevor Lorenzo Mizzi

Feb 16th 2010, 21:48

@Robert Callus,
I have to strongly disagree with you, If we accept this man's wrong behavior on cultural grounds, then the next Somali illegal who decides to molest a woman because she is not covered up like they are in Somalia for example, then it is a free for all.
You cannot have several sets of laws in Malta , one for the native and several depending on the culture you are dealing with when dealing with illegal immigrants.
The fact that they are in Malta illegally shows that these people are not strangers at breaking the laws of the land. Being soft on these people is the largest mistake any legal system can make.

Robert Callus

Feb 16th 2010, 18:50

@AntheaDoughty, T Gauci
Are you serious? You are wondering where a man got money for alcohol? We're talking alcohol not Cocaine! How about paying a visit to the Supermarket for a change?

@Trevor Lorenzo Mizzi
THere are two extremes. Pardoning a person because he comes from a different culture is one of them. Assuming that he must be some sex maniac from reading a little article on the ToM is another. REst assured that if he happened to be Maltese, people here would be up in arms asking whether he was just having a pee on the wall, and if yes why is he still in custody.
Both are equally wrong, with no if's and but's

Joseph Schembri

Feb 16th 2010, 18:10

I appreciate the fact that nobody here is calling him a paedophile or a sex offender. We may not agree whether he should be in Malta or not or on countless other things. But calling him a child defiler is WRONG. So at least you guys have enough sense to see that the parents and the police are throwing all the laws in the book at this poor soul for nothing. Even the kids who might have seen a black man pee are going to suffer because of the police/parents over reaction.

Joseph Schembri

Feb 16th 2010, 17:44

T Gauci. You don't need odles of money to get drunk especially if u are not used to drink. Last time I checked a bottle of the cheapest maleste wine cost about ONE euro. That is enough to knock a non drinker out flat. Please stop dreaming of conspiracy theories.

These are unhappy people who happen to be black. Like you and I who are a lighter shade of black they are often unhappy. Like some of us they try alcohol to forget the miserable lives that they are leading.

Why don't we try and stop them from resorting to alcohol by giving real help perhaps?

anthea doughty

Feb 16th 2010, 17:29

WOW - you really are giving your illegals the high life aren't you? Enough money to buy alcohol and get drunk? Are you serious? He should not even be in Malta let alone wandering at will, living like a parasite off us all (I say us cos EU funds are being used for these peoples), your island whilst beautiful is becoming a place that tourists are shying away from - there are of course several reasons, the high costs of everything, but the illegals roaming the streets in groups and pairs and loitering all round the place....

Trevor Lorenzo Mizzi

Feb 16th 2010, 17:29

@Joseph Schembri,

Not all cultures are created equal, why do you excuse the criminal actions of these people, they are not children. For what this man did in any civilized nation, when apprehended he would have had the full weight of the law fall on his head, no ifs or buts.
What are the maltese gaining by having these alien cultures in our midst?

T.gauci

Feb 16th 2010, 17:13

the most important question is, where did he get all the money from to buy that much alcohol ?

Joseph Schembri

Feb 16th 2010, 16:07

Do you think people in Somalia wait in line in a queue to go to the ladies and the gent's after devouring some 'happy meal'? This man was drunk as some or many of us have been at some point in our life. He urinated in public which is wrong in our culture but it is one of the mildest and most harmless things that people do when they are drunk.

I suspect that the 'shocked parents' would not have been so perturbed had it been a drunken blond sailor doing the same thing.

Somalis are not used to alcohol - they barely get enough to eat let alone to buy alcohol so a couple of beers could have rendered this man senseless. Accuse him of being drunk, disorderly and unhygienic but don't make a child molester out of this poor man please!

The other day I complimented a Somali on his white teeth and I asked him about dental care in Somalia. I asked him whether he was afraid of dentists. What dentists? he asked me. They pull out your teeth in the street with no anesthetic in my country!

lgalea

Feb 16th 2010, 15:52

GET RID OF THEM ALL GONZI.

Jeremy Zammit

Feb 16th 2010, 15:46

In the 'malta-exposed' blog there is a story where a man was accused of defiling a kid because the man stopped his car in the middle of nowhere to have a leak. A car happened to be passing by and a kid saw the man urinating. Shock! Horror! The poor man is now in the sex offenders register.Bring it on Dr. Carm - it will soon be bursting at the seams and your constituents (those not in it) will be happy.

Raise their hands those men who have NEVER in their lives relieved themselves amongst some bushes or against a wall! It's one of the first things my father taught me to do! But now it is called defilement.

Joseph Schembri

Feb 16th 2010, 15:28

Another case of the mass hysteria gripping the nation as when it comes to child abuse. For heaven's sake the man was inebriated and decided to relieve himself against some lamp post and two kids saw him. It is NOT traumatic for a child of whatever age to see a man or a woman urinating! What is traumatic is the hulabaloo that the police and their parents are creating. The children will also have to testify in court.

If you really loved the children leave them out of it and change the charges. He can be charged for being drunk and for urinating in public. Not because of any immorality but because it is dirty and unhygienic just like spitting or smoking are!

Remember guys - next time it could happen to you.

Alexander Morana

Feb 16th 2010, 14:46

If he was so drunk how on earth would he remember if he had exposed himself or touching the children?

Chris Ebejer

Feb 16th 2010, 14:23

And the people of B'bugia seems that only the freeport extention is part of their issue. as if all these immigrant roaming into their streets are not a threat to their security.
B'BUGIA wake up!!!

Deo Catania

Feb 16th 2010, 14:05

We need to get rid of these people as soon as possible. Malta is littered with illegal immigrants who only want to live off our backs, do whatever they want because they are backed by NGOs and other lackies and no one seems to care. Welldone.

Charles Sammut

Feb 16th 2010, 10:56

"one ought to bear in mind that the man was drunk at the time"

That's OK then, he couldn't have been responsible for his actions. Whatever next? He was force fed alcohol so he was not even responsible for getting hoplessly drunk in the first place?

Birzebbugia is no longer the safe, relaxed seaside resort it was up until a few years ago. However, the residents do not seem to mind the "cosmopolitan" atmosphere.

maria borg

Feb 16th 2010, 10:35

So what does the accused need to do to the children in order for his crime to be considred serious??!!! And since when was being drunk an excuse for such behaviour??!!

louise vella

Feb 16th 2010, 10:30

Illegal immigrants come in illegally, they stay illegally, they commit more offences on average than us Maltese, they cost us to maintain, they cost us in legal aid. In the meantime the Maltese , including judges, complain of long waiting lists of cases in court.

Steve Rogers

Feb 16th 2010, 10:20

Makes you wonder what an "illegal immigrant" was doing wondering out and about drunk. If he was illegal what was he doing outside in the first place!!