Bishop makes divorce, abortion link
The Bishop of Gozo has linked divorce with abortion, telling a pro-life activity yesterday that research showed that there was a link between unstable families and abortion.
"Where the family is united, pregnancy is likely to be accepted and celebrated, but where the family is broken, such as in the case of divorced parents, there is a higher probability that life is refused and threatened," Mgr Mario Grech said.
Speaking in Victoria, Mgr Grech said it was important that Maltese society did not lose its conscience in favour of life. Even if there was only one abortion, society had a duty to speak out in favour of life.
Among the things which society could do to deter abortion was better education on true love and appreciation of sexuality. Education on the absolute value of life was urgent, Mgr Grech said.
After speaking on the need for stable families, Mgr Grech said society also needed to fight poverty. It sometimes happened, he said, that when unplanned pregnancy took place, the couple might consider abortion because of a lack of financial means to raise the child. When there was poverty, man because miserly with life.
Mgr Grech also underlined the importance of counselling services. particularly to women who might be considering abortion and when the child was handicapped.
Mgr Grech thanked Dar Guzeppa Debono which, for the past 25 years, has been a means how the Church in Gozo helped single mothers and strengthened the mentality against abortion and in favour of life.
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Anthony Roberts
Feb 14th 2010, 12:43
We Catholics were brought up on emotional blackmail, now its a case of don't divorce because you may become an abortionist. I thought that we had moved on, that the knowledge that God forgives and understands the problems that we face seems to have come to nothing. We seem to be going backwards not forwards. I can understand the Church fighting for what it believes in. But Divorcees, if they don't remarry, can actually continue to receive the Blessed Sacraments. Its is only those who remarry who cannot receive the Host. The Church can also give Blessings to those who are unable to go Holy Communion, thus keeping them within the flock and not casting them out.
Guze Xerri
Feb 13th 2010, 00:33
This is the bishop's and curia's not so clever technique of using false associations to provoke biases and dissuade people from examining the evidence objectively.
We are not dolts dear bishop.
yaz tabone
Feb 11th 2010, 09:29
the church is tryin to control every aspect of our lives! no hope of a secular state.. we have officially become just as extreme as the muslims.. shame
human rights? they dnt exist here. this country has become selfish and greedy, we are becoming animals!
i still dnu why divorce shouldnt be introduced! u think its btr for parents to still be "married" when they hate each other? whatever 'smart***" thinks like that, seriously needs a reality check! it will do more harm for the child.. trust me
Charles Grixti
Feb 10th 2010, 20:14
@James De Giorgo
Perhaps what you are seeing and objecting to are advances in human rights and specifically women’s reproductive rights.
War is both morally questionable and objectionable, such as abortion is to some people, and takes thousands if not millions of innocent lives, but yet that does not preclude war from being used when necessary and certainly no Church has yet made War against their teaching or that of God. In fact, in some cases the Church has itself instigated “Holy Wars” and Crusades. Can anyone else see the inherent contradictions in the Church’s teachings vis-a-vis abortion and the slaughter of (non-fetal) human beings?
Trevor Lorenzo Mizzi
Feb 10th 2010, 14:47
Most certainly UFO’s are caused and created when there are a high percentage of divorces in any given geographical area.
One of the many known facts about divorce and UFOs ;-)
Joseph Agius
Feb 10th 2010, 08:21
X ghandu x jaqsam Mr Bishop of Gozo, ibqaw sejrin hekk pruvaw bellaw lin nies fatti li bla sens u aqta kemm tigbdu poplu lejn il knisja. Ibda biex anka tifel ta hames snin jaf li f familja mghaquda tarbija ser tkun accetata u ccelebrata aktar mijx xi skoperta gdida Mgr Mario, huwa fatt ukoll li koppji jisseparaw aktar milli jizzewgu igifieri divorzju u mhux divorzju familji mkissrin u 'unstable' kien ghawn min dejjem, ghad ghawn u ser jibqa jkun ghawn.
Kenneth Busuttil
Feb 10th 2010, 01:51
X'ghandhom x'jaqsmu flimkien id-divorzju mal-abort? Ghaliex qieghed ihallat l-ilma man-nar? U proprju issa hass il-bzonn li jikkummenta?
Se naghmel zewg punti fil-qosor:
1. Kien ikun aktar kredibli li kieku kkwota r-ricerka flok qal dak li gieh f'mohhu.
2. Nispera li l-Isqof t'Ghawdex m'ghandux f'mohhu li johodna lura ghal zmien l-Isqof Gonzi. Se nkun car. Eccellenza, int obbligat li taghti l-opinjoni tal-Knisja u allura jekk il-Knisja hija kontra d-divorzju (kif fil-fatt hi), ghandek kull dritt li tikkwota dak it-taghlim IMMA JEKK JOGHGBOK tohloqx firda billi ddahhal feles biex minghalik thawwad il-biegha! Thallatx bil-konsegwenza li tibghat lil pajjizna lura meta l-Knisja u l-Istat ma kinux jaraw ghajn m'ghajn.
Jekk joghgbok, aghmel id-doveri tieghek ahjar u tkun aktar rispettat! La ghandna bzonn indottrinazzjoni (ghax permezz tat-taghlim u l-informazzjoni, ahna kapaci nahsbu) u wisq anqas ghandna bzonn stqarrijiet mahsuba biex jirrelataw ma' xi diskors politiku!
Alex Borg
Feb 10th 2010, 00:57
This is all tactical. By linking divorce to abortion the church is trying to discredit the opinions of those people who are in favour of divorce, but not necessarily in favour of abortion. This is pure veritable machiavellism!
Christopher Grainger
Feb 10th 2010, 00:51
Neither is desirable, but people have a right to make choices.
Having seen the anguish both cause, neither is an easy option, but neither is it a matter for dogma.
To link Divorce and abortion is an outrage and an affront to all but the blindly indoctrinated.
Matthew Azzopardi
Feb 9th 2010, 14:48
Part 3
For those who profess themselves as lay people without any connection I invite them to reflect a little bit what ideology they brainwashed by. By the way man is a religious being and in his instinct he tries to take refuge in some ideology or a religion created by himself. If one proclaims himself atheist, well most probably he has that small idol in his life that he cannot live without, called money. Well not to give credit to myself but I have been around all Europe in these past 7 years and I have seen many suffering, and I have faced a lot of problems but i have experienced that in Jesus Christ life is possible, and it’s not surviving but true living. One last point regards to divorce, recently in the English parliament they were trying to pass a law which forbids parent to divorce if they had children in the range of 8 to 14 years, because of the traumas that the children were suffering. Think Well people before you find yourself a victim of what you thought it was going to be your salvation.
Matthew Azzopardi
Feb 9th 2010, 14:48
Part 2
There is only one truth from where life comes, and that is Christ who accepting to die because of our sins without resisting to the evil that he received, he saved others, and because he is God and onnipotent he gave this possiblity even to man, to receive life when they are suffering out of love. Love! The most abused word, on earth at the moment, what a contradiction, people want to separate or get divorced because out of love for another chance. Ridiculous Love means to Die, it has no other meaning. In Greek Agape. Today’s conception of love is Philia and Eros, love with a condition. True love Agape means being a complete donation to the other, till you die for him, it means even leaving oneself being killed. This is the Christian concept of love. Prevention is better than cure right, the solution is to prepare marriages well, through people that have an experience of a true Christian life and that they have experienced that what the gospel say is true, and what the Church teaching is true.
Matthew Azzopardi
Feb 9th 2010, 14:47
Part 1
All ye people are scandalized by suffering. Ye are all lacking of the true key of interpreting your life, which is Christ, who redeemed man from his condition of suffering. Suffering is not a curse is only a means of realizing that man is not created to live by himself. The problem today is that we think that we can live without faith, how stupid.... Please look at the situations in Europe, especially in Scandinavia, can't we learn from the mistakes of the others, do we have still to take on the burden of the consequences of our mistakes, without learning from the others? Haven't ever heard of the high rate of suicides of 12 year old children because of divorced parents? You all think, being civilized mean to conform with the others. The truth is that every one has created his own truth, we are the fruit of a society that establishes its own conclusions on the empiric world. Man has lost direction, with the relativistic mentality we are surrounded by.
Emelia Caruana
Feb 9th 2010, 09:52
NO BISHOP Divorce linked with Abortion it does not make sense .........DIVORCE must become legal in MALTA why wait for a HIT MAN to kill your wife like just happened in MALTA .If two people cant live together in love and harmony why stay together not healthy for them or the children.....If I stayed with my violent man I married when I was young I would be dead now ......lucky I was divorced, so MALTA HAS TO BRING IN DIVORCE THIS YEAR so people can be free to chose in a DEMOCRACY and not be DICTATED by RELIGION
yaz tabone
Feb 9th 2010, 09:14
joe muscat - probably the invisible guy in the sky gave him the info.. dnt all the priest etc work like that? u ask for proof and they bring in god.
i know many ppl who are pro divorce n anti abortion. i think this should have NOTHING to do with religion. a religion should be personal and NOT made to control everyone.
i believe in divorce, i think it should be introduced - why not?
malta is FULL of hard headed ppl and as soon as they decide to open their minds and learn then we might move forward in life.. til then we ll stay in the 60s..
James De Giorgio
Feb 9th 2010, 08:46
TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS OUT THERE
First comes divorce, then comes abortion in "special circumstances", then comes abortion on demand.
Proof?
Portugal, Spain, Italy and lately IRELAND who has already moved to step two.
.Paul Schembri
Feb 9th 2010, 08:08
EVERY GENERALISATION IS DANGEROUS ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. - (Mark Twain)
richard Galea
Feb 9th 2010, 07:04
Words from a very wise man.........I would not only take heed of his words but would also follow his earthly footsteps in this world of deceit........I will never marry and would simply adhere to my parents love to my ripe old age.....and never attempt to relinquish my love to my mother in exchange to a woman.
Why risk to live the rest of my life in hell on earth with a woman...when I can enjoy my mother's milky love all my life?
Richard Galea.
Pule' Carmel
Feb 9th 2010, 02:11
2of those who agitated the water or think that the snow which settled on unstable mountain peaks can be stabilised by uncertified and unproven lifejackets . Social Snow flakes, now turned into dirty slush, reached the public cess pit in the form of Abort, divorce, separations, immoralities and same sex marriages, drugs, contraceptives at university, pornographic literature, mental conditions, suicides, political unrest, illegitimate immigrants behaviour and their employment, dubious thinking on teacher’s sick leave, doctor’ certificates, court chief justice’s decisions, magistrates ,a few police irregularities, notaries and fees, uncensored writing from authors, paedophilia, prostitution, Vat tax evasion, illegal boreholes, bank robbery, Children overstay hours at Paceville, over drinking, all night, night clubs, Mepa dubious Land approval, political parties internal unrest, rape and murder of foreign English learning students and other foreign residents, and their unwarranted behaviour in Malta, urinating in Paceville’s residences front gardens,….. Isthere any hope of ever seeing a Christmas card with stable white snow in it, where our children play and breathe clean fresh air? Now that the general public learnt to think that it can live by its own individual laws, the components of the laws will always be found, in a, big smelly cesspit.
Pule' Carmel
Feb 9th 2010, 02:08
1When snow accumulates slowly on unstable mountain tops, instead of staying on the stable plains, there comes a time when it all avalanches at high speed into the valleys destroying all that comes before it, and all solid earth will fragment itself into tiny unrecognisable pieces. I can see that behaviour in individuals in our society, who have advanced themselves to such a mental state, that they seem to think they can devise ONE law and empower All society with ALL the ideas and ALL the different characteristics of EACH different individual, living in DIFFERENT circumstances! As the modern “more educated, self regulating and supporting, confident public” faces the different competitive, financial, educational, social and emotional difficulties and circumstances of a modern life, he is now effectively chosen, and sought to dive from the top of a mountain, and to float and swim in a large mental cesspit of his own development.
The tranquil waters aimed at, which required set stokes devised through past experience by the Church have been agitated by members of the Church itself, and by social circumstances, and new political institutions think that they would become more popular,
if they advertise and approve
Raymond Cachia
Feb 9th 2010, 01:17
The Bishop can link abortion to the Tooth Fairy too, but that does not mean it is real.
More than 75% of marriages end up in Divorce and if the abortion rate was as high, then what a wonderful world this would be. No more god-ape-monkeys thinking they are the pinnacle of creation and then maybe other animals and indeed this whole planet would have a fighting chance. Regrettably bishop, there is no such link and no such luck.
Oscar Cassar
Feb 8th 2010, 23:29
Fil-pajjiz hawn min ghandu bzonn id-Divorzju biex jerga jibda hajja gdida minflok jghaddi diversi snin jittama f'annullament mill-Knisja u johrog diversi flus meta jkun f'puzizzjoni finanzjarja ta' persuna normali. Sinjuri jirrangaw mod iehor barra minn Malta.
Hawn min qed jbaghti biex f'Malta tal-lum biex tghaddi ta' min iwebbes rasu u ma jaghmilx ricerka sew f'Malta kollha (mhux sezzjoni partikolari biss li jiltaqghu maghha fil-knejjes) Dan meta nies bhal Mgr Mario Grech filwaqt li jipriedka dak li skond hu huwa jidirlu hu gust, ghandu suppost jaghder aktar minn li jikkundanna.
Ma nistenniex li l-Knisja taprova d-Divorzju izda l-Knisja missa thalli l-pajjiz jimplimenta bil-kwiet u maturita liginijiet li hemm bzonn. Dan filwaqt li billi nkunu iebsa u burokratici ghal snin twal fl-annullamenti zgur mhux qed naghmlu xi gid fost l-Insara jew favur iz-zwieg.
Konxju li annullamenti mhux Divozju izda vera wkoll li f'dawn l-ahhar snin, l-burokrazija f'kawzi ta' annullamenti zdiedet hafna forsi ghax xi hadt jahseb li qed jaghmel xi gid. Bhekk hafna qed jaqtaw qalbhom qabel sahansitra jibdew il-proceduri.
jcamilleri
Feb 8th 2010, 22:43
Prosit Dear Bishop. You call a spade a spade. No beating round the bush. We need leaders like you. Keep it up. You truly speak in the name of Christ.
Those who deny Christ not only criticise you but also try to ridicule. That's what they did to Jesus after all.
The LORD IS WITH YOU. MAY HE HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOCIETY.
luciano busuttil
Feb 8th 2010, 22:05
Link???? I am in favour for the introduction of divorce but will never be in favour of abortion. these are two different concepts. One refers to the right of choice the other to the right of life which is supreme!
Raymond Camilleri
Feb 8th 2010, 20:53
another stupid comment from the land of backwardness and mediocrity
Anthony Roberts
Feb 8th 2010, 20:33
I want to reiterate that this is emotional blackmail and that there is no link whatsoever between divorce and abortion. Divorce is not the reason why marriages break up it is the solution. Children suffer when their parents fight and abuse each other not when they divorce. What is the difference between separation and divorce - when couples can leave their spouses and live their own lives but because they are separated they are still tied to the person who has hurt them the most. This is where children suffer because they see their parent living with someone else. Divorce cuts the tie and gives children the freedom from the pain of seeing their parents fighting and discriminating against eachother.
I am amazed that abortion has been so linked. Does that mean that a divorcee is an abortionist no way and I cannot see how the Church can accuse those who have suffered enough to be further accused of such an atrocious act. How much more stress and pain can the Church in Malta in flict on its parishioners.
Muscat. Pat
Feb 8th 2010, 20:30
Reason suggests to me that there is more correlation between lack of contraceptive use ( because of moral pressure) and abortion ! According to a UK Government statistic a substantial number of Maltese women used the Harley Street clinics; less well off went to catania in Sicily.
Mark Scerri
Feb 8th 2010, 19:03
another example of Mgr Grech's twisted logic ....
Charles J. Buttigieg
Feb 8th 2010, 19:02
Common sense tells me that a pregnancy out of wedlock is more vulnerable for an abortion. A marriage between two divorcees provides a much stronger bond and stability than cohabitation.
Anthony Roberts
Feb 8th 2010, 18:47
I had a feeling that somehow divorce was going to be linked to abortion by the Church. I have to say that I am appalled at such a statement because there are so many people who are divorced and who certainly would not have considered abortion as an option. How can the Church make such a statement? All it is doing is pushing more and more people away from the Church itself. I myself am divorced so what does that make me an abotionist as well? Am I and many of thousands like me accused here or what??? Why can't the Church accept (as it does in many other countries) that divorce is not a threat but a solution to an unhappy and sometimes destructive relationship and that any suffering occurs during the marriage and not after? I really am shocked and disappointed. Marie Roberts.
Joseph Calleja
Feb 8th 2010, 18:01
Education on the absolute value of life was urgent, Mgr Grech said.
Why is it so hard for the Bishop to come out and say SEX EDUCATION, if that is what he means? What does divorce have to do with abortion? My niece told me something that makes sense the other day. Min ihawwad il-borma ikun jaf xfija. The person stirring the pot knows what's in it. Often times most divorced people find happiness somewhere else, maybe even starting a new family. Divorce can be a good thing. And as far as abortion, it is still a womans right to choose.
Paul Barrett
Feb 8th 2010, 17:48
@ David Stephen Ganado
Reference my earlier comment - I was referring to the fact that their are two very clear subjects which would both appear to have strong support i.e., for divorce, against abortion.
From comments over the years, the anti abortion lobby (most of which I agree with although I do believe that their should be exceptions in extreme cases but definitely not on demand) has very strong support whilst the divorce lobby (which I believe should be on demand) is one that is currently likely to eventually be brought into law.
Linking the two together is just an underhand way of trying to delay or stop the divorce lobby.
Charles J. Buttigieg
Feb 8th 2010, 17:45
"Where the family is united, pregnancy is likely to be accepted and celebrated, but where the family is broken, such as in the case of divorced parents, there is a higher probability that life is refused and threatened," What was the Bishop thinking? How can divorced parents get pregnant? If the Bishop meant a new marriage after divorce how did he conclude that there isn’t unity in the second marriage?
T. Cardona
Feb 8th 2010, 17:43
As James Grech and JJ Creg have already mentioned, could the Bishop of Gozo please publish the correlation between the use of contraceptives and abortion? Surprise, surprise ... abortions rise with lack of use of contraceptives.
Ivan Balzan
Feb 8th 2010, 17:38
Pathetic... and this coming from a Bishop.
J Brincat
Feb 8th 2010, 17:35
Since I fail to see the co-relation between divorce and abortion can Mgr Grech quote chapter and verse from the quoted research so that we can guide for ourselves.
Gone are the days when the faithful were impressed by sermons from the pulpit.
Renald Galea
Feb 8th 2010, 16:55
Who is the Gozo bishop trying to fool?
Does he believe people are still living in days of illiteracy, and have to accept what he and his ilk try to let loose upon us?
Going (only) by the carried story it seems that he is trying to foist off his convictions under guise of "research". The illuminated cleric should quote chapter and verse, and let his flock judge if this "research" is credible and holds water.
Having said that, it is obvious that Mgr Grech is terrified by the open interest shown in favour of divorce. He has turned to clutching to straws. He will eventually have to also settle for the demand for abortion.
Althouth is looks and feels otherwise, Malta is not ruled by the Curia.
Ivan Abela
Feb 8th 2010, 16:55
This totally absurd statement just shows at what low level the local church is ready to swoop down in order to avoid our country having an open dialogue on the issue of divorce. But they forget one thing, we are not in the sixties anymore, those dark ages when the church had almost full thought control and had the face to impose the mortal sin on those who do not share its opinion. THOSE DAYS ARE GONE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
George Mangion
Feb 8th 2010, 16:53
Thank you Mons. Grech
Keep on illuminating us with your reseach and experiece. The Holy Spirit gave you wisdom and courage to face all odds and with humility and Charity expose the teaching of Christ to people of good will.
Pope John Paul II once told married who divorced and priest who left priesthood, Yor are unworthy of being trusted as you could not honour the promise you made to the Church and to your wife/husband.
J Farrugia
Feb 8th 2010, 16:39
If one is pro divorce one is also for abortion, for gay marraiges, for euthanasia. And no excuses please. We are humans. There is no one without the other.
Christian Sciberras
Feb 8th 2010, 16:33
I'm all for the right of abortion and divorce, but severely against both. Make what you will out of it.
That said, scientific research is always coupled with citations from reliable sources, something I don't see here.
Speaking of which, if it were te Church itself to do such research (or fund it), I definitely wouldn't be surprised about the results.
Steve Mizzi
Feb 8th 2010, 16:18
Next he is going to tell us that short skirts are "scientifically linked" to abortion.
Actually you can turn his argument on it's head:
Where a woman is seperated and therefore unable to marry the Father of her unborn child, she is more likely to terminate the pregnancy.
This sort of scare mongering tactic is offensive to anyone with a basic level of intelligence and education.
joe muscat
Feb 8th 2010, 16:14
"The Bishop of Gozo has linked divorce with abortion, telling a pro-life activity yesterday that research showed that there was a link between unstable families and abortion." can you tell us what research you are referring to dear Bishop.
Robert Callus
Feb 8th 2010, 16:06
This is just twisted logic. "Research showed (what reaserch? specify) that there is a link between unstable families and abortion"
What has divorce got to do with this? Is the bishop implying divorce CAUSES unstable famlies? People divorce AFTER a marriage is broken not before. Apart from the obvious fact that not only married people have kids, making divorce completely irrelevant in this issue
vincent a galea
Feb 8th 2010, 15:43
This to me sounds like blackmail! I am against abortion, but pro divorce!!!!!!!!!!
David Stephen Ganado
Feb 8th 2010, 15:21
@ Paul Barrett
Ase you sure there is very strong support for Abortion? I very much doubt it, expecially here in Malta.
As for Divorce, yes, we are already living a big lie by allowing numerous civil seperations and a good number of church separations.......as long as we dont call it divorce! I thought the bishop was more intelligent that this; to try linking the two without producing actual facts will only make his argument weaker. we need to introduce Divorce, even if for very restricted cases, but we cannot continue to have couples living in limbo and even worse, their children not knowing what the real relationship of their parents is!
Chris Mifsud
Feb 8th 2010, 15:17
People have a choice what to believe or not believe what the bishop says. I am of the personal opinion that the bishop is trying to hi-jack the abortion argument to try and force his anti-divorce laws. He is following the church and has a right to express his views and who agrees with him has the right to believe him.
What is sad is that the government are so easily influenced by what the church says. We need a strong government which basis its laws on common sense and practicality and not on pleasing the bishop and trying to grab votes.
Divorce should be legalised without delay and abortion should also be legalized.
V.Grech
Feb 8th 2010, 15:13
What kind of sweeping statement is this? research showed - what research? who is the bishop quoting? what does the research actually say? who conducted it?
James Grech
Feb 8th 2010, 15:11
Education is definitely important, however what about the lack of suitable programs that provide for better sex education? Whenever issues such as the use of contraceptives are mentioned, along comes someone criticizing and complaining that it is against our religious believes. What are we pretending from our youngsters and couples? miracles? While abstention should be preached, there should also be suitable information about other means. We are humans after all. It is understandable that the church preaches Christ's teachings, however there should not be obsessive intrusions of of the Church into such issues.
I fail to understand how the Bishop came up with this link between divorce and abortion, which reports has he quoted in his talk? I hope that the Church is capable of keeping its position on such issues without resorting to subterfuges and political alliances, just to keep control of the people, similar to what happened in the past over different issues.
Mike Magri
Feb 8th 2010, 15:06
First of all, let me make this clear... I AM 1000% AGAINST ANY EXCUSES OF ABORTION...
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Now having said that and with all due respect to Bishop Grech, we might as well `link` abortion to many other instances and or circumstances people find themselves in.. Like `unwanted` children in ANY type of ANY other marriage, and harsh threatening of Parents on mothers to be... What`s for sure is that by being divorced one gets another chance of BUILDING another family under one`s beleives, moral obligations and local legal conditions just the same...
Sinjuri... This issue requires very serious thinking and discussions.... So let us ALL be sensible on this subject and stop scaring people.
Henry J Bonett
Feb 8th 2010, 15:05
''Where the familly is broken, such as the case of divorced parents there is a higher probability'' ...of abortion. Taking this summarily as a fact, there are, unfortunately, many, and increasingly many, unstable, even broken, marriages and most of them have not resorted to divorce. So, what exactly are we saying?
Yes, these couples need love. And education, not just now or a couple of months before marriage, but early in life. So could we all please cut the fanatical, political and religious talk and push to start the walk.
Jesmond Micallef
Feb 8th 2010, 14:54
A note about "Unborn Handicapped Children":
Who has the right to terminate the life of a unborn child because of such condition ? I take it further and ask : Are we paving the the way for children who are "Not Handicapped" ? What comes to mind here, people, If I may ask !!!
Noel Galea
Feb 8th 2010, 14:27
Is this also the case of a married person having an affair an obliging his lover to commit an abortion following an unwanted pregnancy? We are not taking about broken families here.
A. Mizzi
Feb 8th 2010, 14:21
And any research has been done on cohabitation, separated , annuled parties with abortion?
What about status of children born out of wedlock as we know it , do the have the same status within the law as children of divorced and re-married parents?
Kenneth Cassar
Feb 8th 2010, 14:16
The same link could be made to church annulments.
Katia Mifsud
Feb 8th 2010, 14:14
talking about jumping to conclusions !!!
Next it might be that people who don't go to church on sundays are more likely to be gambling addicts...... can't you see the link there ???? ;O)
Manuel Tabone
Feb 8th 2010, 14:13
First of all I am very proud that we have an active Bishop that involves himself legitimately in such subjects. I strongly believe that his contribution is necessary, relevant and sensible. Human Life is about values and morals; ones we relax them, they will release the whole system down. I don’t figure out the true motives and passion of some comments. Our formation is about values and morals that we received form our ancestors. What kind of Malta are we trying to reproduce, a society based on indifference? Family is about love, love during difficult circumstances. Bishop Grech is challenging facts of life, qualifying progress and conveniences that are happening around us. Yet because such scenarios prevail doesn’t mean that they are correct or fruitful!
j.spiteri
Feb 8th 2010, 14:07
What is Familja Kana doing to tackle all these separations? And what has divorcing your partner got to do with the butchering of foetuses? Ha nibdew xi krucjata ohra kontra il-PL jaqaw?
JJ Creg
Feb 8th 2010, 14:06
''when unplanned pregnancy took place, the couple might consider abortion.''
Please define 'planned' - if use of condoms and contraceptive are not allowed in Church's teaching.
Paul Cave
Feb 8th 2010, 13:48
I suppose as it was a 'pro-life activity' whatever that means, he would not have been asked to answer the other difficult abortion question; namely when the potential child is a product of rape.
The over-simplification of these matters is unacceptable in a modern secular democracy, surely?
Paul Barrett
Feb 8th 2010, 13:44
I believe linking divorce (for which their is a reasonable support) with abortion (for which their is a very strong support) is a very underhand way of trying to win over the divorce argument.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 8th 2010, 13:35
What 'research' is the good and wise Bishop of Gozo quoting? Can he quote to us, or does he think that everyone is as gullible as those people he preaches to? Some wisdom coming out of Gozo, these days!
adrian Wirth
Feb 8th 2010, 13:05
For the sake of attaining the credibility the emininent bishop deserves, surely one ought to be informed what source, when and where published is the 'research' upon which his case stands.
Jake Cassar
Feb 8th 2010, 13:04
Can we see these statistics before making such statements?
I'm definately not gonna believe a bishop just because he said so.
EMMANUEL ZAMMIT
Feb 8th 2010, 13:04
Some people they are not seeing people suffering!!
They want to see what they want to see!!
We have all to have another chance to be happy.
Luca Pellegrino
Feb 8th 2010, 12:56
I think that Mgr Grech doesn't know what means to be married and the difficulties that sometime exists when a couple live together. It's too easy to say everything against divorce when somebody is not living a specific situation.
Divorce is a sign of democracy and of civilization.
Ivan Camilleri
Feb 8th 2010, 12:51
Is this quote for real??
"Where the family is united, pregnancy is likely to be accepted and celebrated, but where the family is broken, such as in the case of divorced parents, there is a higher probability that life is refused and threatened," Mgr Mario Grech said. (I Grech Paola)
Randolph De Battista
Feb 8th 2010, 12:48
There's also a link between defiled children and lack of stability of their future families, so the Church should take note of this too!!
Manuel Micallef
Feb 8th 2010, 12:44
Can the Bishop show facts of what this link looks like?! How many divorced persons abroad carried an abortion?
In Malta even though we don't have divorce, people are still separating - at a rate equivalent to abroad. The issue of separation is already here. He is trying to stop divorce being discussed, by creating fictitious links