Ukrainian charged with wife's murder

R.Gauci

Nov 13th 2009, 15:11

First of all R.I.P to the person involved.

@Robert Azzopardi

Well said mate you said everything I was going to say!! The World is one country you find good and bad everywhere!!

Robert Azzopardi

Nov 13th 2009, 14:37

@JAquilinaThank you. A life has been cut short, a bit more sensitivity please.
@All Guys can you stop putting everbody under one umbrella, can you not live by stereotyping and give people a break and a chance. Every basket has its bad apples as does the Maltese society. EE ppl are loyal freinds who you can count on when in need not to mention non-judgemental. Stop pre-judging!
Maltese women, you might be shocked and surprised but a Maltese man can leave his wife for another maltese woman you know, and that has been happening for ages! You tend to be right though on one thing Maltese men tend to feel special when shown interest.
@Anthony Attard Dude are you for real?!?! it's 2009, women do NOT belong in the kitchen and live their lives according to your rules and norms, you just find a woman who questions you intimidating and I can assure you that every woman from every nation can do that today! If you just want a woman to stay home, clean, pop babies out and have time to greet you when you come home with a warm casserole in her hands!wrong century!

Olga Buttigieg

Nov 13th 2009, 13:38

WOW I should really save this article to show my children, what their fellow citizens think of their mother. Well done people, seriously you have a lot to be proud of.
What are you people???????

Mary Berry

Nov 13th 2009, 13:38

To J. Aquilina

Brilliant speech again !!!
Very to the point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ruben Baldacchino

Nov 13th 2009, 13:16

A person has died and instead of showing respect, you're discussing an issue of VISA's. I would rather leave this discussion to another place, and show dignity to the deceased person. I have no relations with this person but I wouldn't discuss any issue when someone dies.

M Portelli

Nov 13th 2009, 12:46

Why we all forget about maltese who live in UK, Australia for example? they are taking someone's work places too? If a man has personal preferences why he shouldn't marry a woman from Eastern Europe? They are still human beings, aren't they? and deserve better life and sometimes, unfortunately, sometimes outside home country.
All those comments sound racist....

m.vella

Nov 13th 2009, 11:33

the real fact is that maltese men who end up having to 'buy' a wife or pay for sex are desperate as no one locally wants them!

J. Aquilina

Nov 13th 2009, 11:18

What do u have against Eastern European people? Most EE ppl i know are nice and genuine. Dont judge and you won't be judged!!!Instead of arguing, better say a prayer for a poor human being who lost her life in a horrible fate!!!!!!!! Peace!

Cikku Psaila

Nov 13th 2009, 09:19

Having met people and women from various countries in the European continent, and, coming from a background where I was raised with a certain stereotype on Eastrn European women, I can now say that I had the most wrong mis conception about these women.

I read a few posts of maltese women here, and I cannot help myself from smiling.
I am not writing this post to answer any of them, because ironically, these very same maltese women here would proudly announce themselves as non racist whenever an argument on illigal immigration props up! Ah the irony :)

While there is a number of Eastern European women who move to the West for better life, I can say that it is a total wrong misconception that they move for prostitution etc.

And besides, I can also say that the easiest women I met, till now, were indeed Maltese.

Cheerio

Doris Soler

Nov 13th 2009, 09:05

I KNOW we have lost the thread somewhat and frankly, I'm not even too hot under the collar about illegal immigrants/workers, having a somewhat live and let live mentality (its licit for you to try it on, its the authorities right/duty to nab you) but as regards East European women - c'mon guys, - I'm always rooting for the ladies but for the most part you really have to be naive to believe they marry locally for love !

marthese mussett

Nov 12th 2009, 18:23

@Anthony Attard Maltese women spoilt?Or is it that most Eastern European women only marry businessmen or guys who at least have their own home?And how dare you say we re ugly,and can t cook?I bet we re waiting for someone like you to teach us how to cook.Let me remind you that in their countries they have enough MEN ,they re just not so easily blinded like some Maltese men,who act like they ve never seen anything.They come here so gullable people like you can give them a better life,while bad mouthing the rest of us.I am not pointing my finger at anyone in particular,but I heard of a few cases where a man left his Maltese wife for an East European,and regretted it,because the grass was nt greener,and oh no,I am not jealous,I look good have 4 kids am in a happy marriage.AND I CAN COOK

C. Farrugia

Nov 12th 2009, 17:29

@ John Debono

The facts ARE there!

*Prosecuting officers asked the Court to hear Ukrainian witnesses as quickly as possible since some were found to be overstaying their visa and had to be deported.*

What other facts do you need??!

Jacqui Gatt

Nov 12th 2009, 16:34

@Anthony Attard

'Yes many Maltese men I included prefer Eastern European women because they tend to be more sincere and less spoilt then Maltese women! Many Maltese women today are unsure of what they want, complain all the time, waste our time, can not cook and have less 'moral values'. If someone wants happiness, love and beauty, forget Maltese women join one of these websites.'

How dare you?? Who are you to call ALL Maltese women ugly, unlovable, spoilt and class them as having weak moral values?

Did your own mother (who I assume is Maltese) possess the characteristics you implied on Maltese women?

I really wish you and other Maltese men who share your opinion happiness and long term relationships with any women you choose to date or marry, that way Maltese women will not have to listen to you.

J.Spiteri

Nov 12th 2009, 15:45

Malta has become a ' free for all' country. Foreigners can come and go whenever ,and stay for as long, as they wish. The authorities don't seem to bother at all. Border control simply does not exist.

Anthony Attard

Nov 12th 2009, 15:30

I would like to reply to some points made in earlier comments! I am Maltese and both I am many of my friends who happen to be Maltese as well prefer Eastern European women to Maltese. In reply to Marianne Galea Xuereb's comment, Yes many Maltese men I included prefer Eastern European women because they tend to be more sincere and less spoilt then Maltese women! Many Maltese women today are unsure of what they want, complain all the time, waste our time, can not cook and have less 'moral values'. If someone wants happiness, love and beauty, forget Maltese women join one of these websites. Many Maltese men have and are now very happy. On a second point non EU workers should not be able to work in Malta unless they have a job that there are no Maltese to do, so why non EU workers from whatever nationality are here working in menial jobs, that should not be allowed, why they are is a failure of the present PN government who as we have seen are issueing permits for any job. A third point Eastern Europeans assimilate do Africans? I do not think so!

Marianna Galea Xuereb

Nov 12th 2009, 12:30

@ clare spiteri

Many young women from Russia/the Ukraine are coming over to settle in Malta as the wives/mistresses of Maltese men. There are even website agencies specializing in finding foreign partners for such women who want to settle abroad. Many Maltese men love blonde Russians/ Ukrainians and several have actively sought out such agencies specializing in enabling young women to settle in foreign countries by partnering them with men who demand such women. Unfortunately I have also heard of Maltese married men bringing over such girls and settling with them after leaving their wives and children. I also suspect that certain such girls from the ex-soviet block countries are being lured into Malta with the promise of marriage but then end up being forced to work as prostitutes for pimps/more organized and upscale paid escort organizations.

Moreover, several foreign controlled legal businesses in Malta prefer to recruit workers from their own countries and bring them over to work in Malta. Whether they all have the required work permit or not – and how such a permit was obtained in cases where it was issued - is a question which I am totally unqualified to answer.

clare spiteri

Nov 11th 2009, 22:06

Really sirs,do you honestly think that I do not know which countries are part of the EU.?I was only being sarcastic, in spite of the fact its the lowest form of wit.Of course Russia and the ukraine are not in the EU so why are there so many people from these countries on this island, working, producing children,going to yoga classes,owning cars, taking jobs which should go to our people. We want no illegal immigrants here no matter where they come from. Someone, in some government department is not doing their job .

mario aquilina

Nov 11th 2009, 21:02

Most of these non EU workers can be found polishing the floors at Mater Dei. How Come?

lgalea

Nov 11th 2009, 20:56

clare spiteri
You sure need to revise your history and geography.

Jonathan Agius
ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OF WHATEVER NATIONALITY AND COLOR SHOULD AND MUST BE EXPELLED. As tourists they are welcome, as settlers NO.

Marcel Dingli

Nov 11th 2009, 20:04

ANR spoke about these illegals from the very begining. It was the media that labeld ANR as racist.

John Debono

Nov 11th 2009, 19:29

I expected some intelligent comments from Messrs.Agius/Farrugia/Borg/BriffaDeMartino.Before putting your finger to the keyboard it would have been much wiser to know the facts.

johnny borg

Nov 11th 2009, 18:59

Huh! Now the Ukranian, if found guilty, will stay here longer than expected and subsidised from our taxes

Ivan Pirotta

Nov 11th 2009, 18:43

Ms Clair Spiteri, Ukraine and Russia are NOT in the EU. ONLY Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are in the EU. Those three states where independent before the Second World War, but they where annexed by Russia during World War II.

So No, They cannot stay here as long as they wish.

Ivan

GiovDeMartino

Nov 11th 2009, 18:06

The police took TWENTY years to reaslize that a particular cinema, across the street, was screening nothing but pornographic films,

Joe Morana

Nov 11th 2009, 17:34

@Clare Spiteri: Our Government's efforts to educate the public on E.U. membership appear to have been a waste of time and money!

Carl Briffa

Nov 11th 2009, 16:46

JONATHAN AGIUS just hit the nail on the head. I always stresse the point that we have a bigger problem with these illegal immigrants from the east most them enjoy good jobs in Malta but since they are not dark skined no one report them.

clare spiteri

Nov 11th 2009, 16:18

oh is the ukraine annd russia not part of the eu?Can they not stay on these islands for as long as they wish? And can they not work?

anthony borg

Nov 11th 2009, 15:18

The prosecuter said that some Ukrainians were overstaying in Malta. The police did not know about their overstaying. They came to their knowledge because of the above incident. I suggest those responsible should be demoted.

C. Farrugia

Nov 11th 2009, 14:20

Does it need an alleged wife's murder to discover foreigners with expired visas? Considering this piece of news, I wonder how many MORE go undetected!

Jon Agius

Nov 11th 2009, 14:14

what about these immigrants staying illegally in Malta?? Or no one says anything because they are from the East and not Africans??