Black Monday video documentary tomorrow

Peter Bonnici

Oct 14th 2009, 23:48

@ Joyce Aquilina. Were you at Tiananmen too?

Peter Bonnici

Oct 14th 2009, 23:32

@ J Camilleri
If you want to know what sowed the seeds of hatred, read Albert Ganado's 'rajt Malta tinbidel', and go over the chapter in which PN leaders were deported by the british rulers of the time after being instigated to do so by local political adversaries. Of course, none of these men and women were tried in a court because no charge would stick.

Galea. L

Oct 14th 2009, 23:15

simon vella
Attack on the freedom of speech?
How about the PN prohibiting the reading or taking of MLP newspapers in hospital for which it was condemned by the Privy Council?
How about tas-suffara preventing MLP meetings from being held, the shooting of the Socialist International members in Wied iz-Zurrieq, the throwing of stones when MLP supporters went to a meeting in Gozo and the continuous peeling of bell, the throwing of stones on MLP supporters from the Church near the MLP club who were attending a meeting, the brutal police attacks of MLP supporters, the prohibition of meetings and demonstrations in Floriana and Valletta under PN administrations?
These all happened under PN administrations and were perpetrated by or at the behest of the PN including the hate fomented against the Shipyards workers and the MLP.
And you want to talk about an attack on the freedom of speech!!!
Biex tiskongra trid tkun pur simon u shabu.

c. camilleri Those were protests against a foreign colonial ruler. In other countries such people are held in high esteem as patriots.

David Buttigieg 5th columnists.

This happens whenever PN support is scraping the bottom of barrel.

Jeremy J Camilleri

Oct 14th 2009, 23:12

Oh welll..I guess the Pn never condemned the Interdett.....doesn;t that make them an accomplice..??

Oh yes, a quick question...what happened to the Police officers who used to mistreat Nationalists ?

Tghidlix li they where promoted under a Pn Government?

Emmanuel Ebejer

Oct 14th 2009, 23:02

May I suggest that a documentary on Black Wednesday be prepared. This in reference to Wednesday 28th December 1977, the day Karin Grech was murdered.

mosesmula

Oct 14th 2009, 22:01

I have to ask, why keep mentioning these incidents? And show documentaries about them? This will only serve to awaken past sentiments and hate towards the opposite political party, as we can clearly see from these bloggers comments below. The Maltese have matured enormously when it comes to political differences, both the politicians and the voters.

joyce aquilina

Oct 14th 2009, 20:42

yes i do remember tear gas bieng thrown at us but in 1989 by the SAG while we were watching the regatta

David Buttigieg

Oct 14th 2009, 20:31

@J Camilleri,

Yes I agree that the interdett was shameful - but it was the CHURCH and not PN who did it! Get your facts straight!

GiovDeMartino@Fenech MD

Oct 14th 2009, 20:13

Mhux veru ma sarux arresti. Arrestaw lin-nazzjonalisti li kienu maghluqin ghall-affari taghhom fil-kazin. U KOLLHA HARGU LIBERATI.

J.Camilleri

Oct 14th 2009, 20:13

Is there a black monday and a video documentary for the famous INTERDETT ! Good to know how the venom roots started on this island.

Dr Francis Saliba

Oct 14th 2009, 19:46

@FenechMD
At Zebbug the aggressors were the MLP supporters who had maliciously deviated from the authorized route to their political meeting, jumped over police barriers and besieged the PN party club into which they were trying to force an illegal entry. The PN members inside the club, were the victims of an unprovoked aggression and were only trying to defend themselves and their families from the usual vandals because, as usual, a corrupted police force did not control that mob.

Gerry Cowie

Oct 14th 2009, 19:40

@ P Spiteri - the ends do not justify the means!

And why all the comments in Malti? Is this not supposed to be an English language newspaper? Is this some kind of protest?

P. Spiteri

Oct 14th 2009, 19:14

Dear A. Borg,

Not even I was born or conceived back in 1979, but I think the events that took place at that time brought the democracy that with all your rights as you said you graduated in university, got a job, and all the good things that came along. We have to thank our fathers that brought this country where it is today.
You could have just made till form 5 if certain events didn't take place and the government didn't change at that time.
What happened 30 years ago and more or less gives us the Malta that we found today... now whats gonna happen in the next legislature we have to wait for the story to unfold we can speak about history we can just dream of the future for mow. When it comes we can comment about it...

Learn from the past, live the present and dream of the future.

Mark Portelli

Oct 14th 2009, 19:11

To C. Camilleri - Proset

People where brianwashed that it was the PN faults.

Vincent P Galea

Oct 14th 2009, 19:09

prosit h. busuttil.
a leopard NEVER changes its spots.
Watch Jason in action over the next 3 months.........and that's with his OWN colleagues.
u halluna

Mark Portelli

Oct 14th 2009, 19:05

Yes Socialist thugs or mlp supporters, the same people who went on a rampage on the times, Curia, law courts, MUT offices, PN Clubs etc....."No identification or arraignments were ever made" so in 1987 we can start a new life like a democratic country.

Clive Gerada

Oct 14th 2009, 18:45

Why you have to mention Fenech Adami all the time, I think he was not the only one who was offended at the time.

GiovDeMartino@A MIzzi

Oct 14th 2009, 18:42

Mhux biss ma sarux arresti, imma l-istess [pulizija hafnaq drabi inghaqdu mal-kriminali. L-oxxenita tal-lejber hija nfinita!

J Callus

Oct 14th 2009, 18:38

Has there been a clear and declared sign of 'sorry' from the aggressors?
Such violence could never be justified.
Moroever, this is history and an exoerience, which is the best teacher.
Shall this generation be denied the chance to learn from a past generation?

lzammit

Oct 14th 2009, 18:23

Sur Busuttil qed tgerfex. What party do you mean?

GiovDeMartino @Fenech MD.

Oct 14th 2009, 18:13

ASSOLUTAMENT ,MHUX VERU LI NXTEHTU XI BALAVOSTRI FUQ NIES LI KIEN GHALL-MEETING. MHUX VERU LE. Kemm hsibtna stupidi. Il-balavostri nxtehtu fuq il-marmalja li marret biex tattakka l-kazin kif kienet il-moda. Bil-pulizija fuq il-knisja biex jisparaw fuq xi nazzjonalisti li kienu maghluqin gewwa ghall-affari taghhom. MHUX VERU dak li ktibt int.

Peter Bonnici

Oct 14th 2009, 18:10

@ Fenech MD. Tibdiex fuq haz zebbug, ghax kulhadd jaf kif beda l-inkwiet hemmek. 5 min-nies zgur qatt ma kienu ha jghamlu ghal folla ta xi 30 elf. L-attakk beda meta xi bullies raw xi nies gewwa, bhal ma dejjem ikun go kazin ta naha l-oppost, u infexxew fi tfih ta gebel u fliexken. Il-pulizija bhas soltu m;ghamlu xejn u'l-marmalja laburista hebbet ghal bieb ta barra. Min fuq il bejt, dawk li kienu gewwa waddbu ghal isfel kull ma sabu biex jiddefendu il-kazin. Fl-ahhar il pulizija intervjenew billi dahlu ghalihom u arrestaw lill-dawn il-hamsa.
Wiehed minnhom kellu xi 17 il sena, dam arrestat xi hamest ijiem id-depot. Meta irritorna id-dar, min wiccu ma setax jingharaf. Dam gimghat shah sakemm qal kelma ghax belhuh bix xebat li tawh. Rasu got-toilet bdew isabbtuh u jifflaxxjaw sakemm kwazi ghereq. Sena jew sentejn wara dan il-kas nehha hajtu b-idejh. Illum huh huwa habib tieghi, ghadu jibkieh sal-llum.
Dak li gara f'haz zebbug dakinhar seu Fenech.

@ K Gauci & M Busuttil. All civilised societies remember past events, wars, tragedies, triumphs. Uncivilised people on the other hand have no respect for the sacrifices of their ancestors. Remember Joseph Muscat's behaviour on Remembrance Sunday 2008?

Jeffrey Mifsud

Oct 14th 2009, 18:09

"Qari mill-Ittra ta San ..........." I don`t have the name yet, because if I am not mistaken, sometimes the Catholic church changes the names of the Saints. Reading all this looks like reading a text from the Modern Testament (or the New Testament).
Fiasco in tourism, enemalta, industry, imports and exports; Higher prices; Never ending debt, Fairmount, Vat Scandal, Low wages for the maltese in europe although we pay loads of taxes, Flying to watch UK soccer game with certain people!!!! Heyy, this is what interest me!!!! I am living now, not 30 years ago!!!!! Better to do a video documentary on all these things, so that certain people wake up and react!

Mario Farrugia

Oct 14th 2009, 18:08

Why not remeber what happened 30years ago? The new PL is not all new you know...some of those still active in the party were already in the party structure back then. Thankfully this incident helped pave the way for a PN majority in the following elections, crumbling the anti-democratic way the country was being run.

Jo Galea

Oct 14th 2009, 17:48

This is history.
As we all know ,there are a lot of young people in their twenties & and early thirties who all they can remember is the PL leading only the oppostion.This also includes the leader of the PL, who at that time he was still a toddler playing with his toy cars.

So yes, this video will surely be very educational for all of us, including the above mentioned young PL supporters.

joanna farrugia

Oct 14th 2009, 17:37

what abt a documentary of what really happened to those who suffered under the interdict??

Joseph Micallef

Oct 14th 2009, 17:35

I Care!!

A.Borg

Oct 14th 2009, 17:28

Acqua passata.. we are interested on who deserves governing the country in the next legislature when Malta takes over the EU Presidency. Let's talk about serious business and not go way back 30yrs.

I wasnt even born, conceived or planned in 1979! Years ago I graduated at Unviersity, have a job, got married and proud to be a father. Whatever happened 30yrs ago honestly does not interest me. My objective is my family's wellbeing in the coming years.

Move on and look ahead.

simon vella

Oct 14th 2009, 17:27

That was a day of horror.It was an attack on freedom of speech.Hope it will never happen any more.

J Busuttil

Oct 14th 2009, 17:27

As we remember Independence Day,Freedom Day and the other Public Holidays we should rember BLACK MONDAY. Even in England the burning of Parliament,

A. Mizzi

Oct 14th 2009, 17:26

Why "Socialist" and not just thugs . No identification or arraignments were ever made.

Henry Jacobs

Oct 14th 2009, 17:24

Lets stop remembering anything after say 25 years. Some of the comments are ridiculous. I am sure that anyone would remember his home or workplace being burnt down all his life.

mark axiak

Oct 14th 2009, 17:16

nahseb kull wiehed u wahda minnu jekk ikissrulu d-dar u jattakkawlu l-familja, lanqas 80 sena ohra ma jinsiha.

c. camilleri

Oct 14th 2009, 17:16

@ k gauci. I can assure that a documentary of the 1960 will also indict the labour party with riots, burning of Police stations, cutting down the rediffusion's poles, beating of opponents, disrupting of political meetings helped by the police ( a classic example is the Qui si Sana meeting)discrimination at places of work etc, etc etc. This is your party's behaviour whenever it was in Govt. It would be interesting to have a video of the period.

H. Busuttil

Oct 14th 2009, 17:04

@d micallef
The people at The Times, who are producing this documentary, probably care about what happened to their colleagues and premises 30 years ago - in the same way that people today still care about what happened during the world wars; just like the Americans care about what happened on September 11; just like the British care about the Brighton bombing by the IRA 25 years ago (which the media are currently featuring). This list can go on and on.
Try as you might, you just can't deny history. Nor, if you were intelligent, would you try. Removing your political blindfold might be a good start. But unfortunately you'll need a good welder to do that.

David Buttigieg

Oct 14th 2009, 16:58

@K Gauci,

That question might have been valid had the church been producing a video on how the "labour aristocracy" had smashed up the Curia. The church and not the government issued the "Interdett".

@M Busuttil, It is "The Times" and not the Nationalist party reminding us of not so distant government tolerated horrors

Yes, I know you all hate hearing indefensible facts, so would I.

@Fenech M D

"l-ballabostri" falling from a roof - wow incredible isn't it? Compare it to tear gas fired by police thugs, socialist thugs burning down newspapers, smashing up the Curia, closing down my school (not a church school by the way but completely private) to deny us an education and forcing me to study in hiding, beating up old ladies, police commissioners murdering prisoners - any wonder why Labour has not won a majority that counts for the last 33 years (i.e. since 1976) baring a hastily fixed blip in 2006?

c. camilleri

Oct 14th 2009, 16:52

Is this video being put up for sale.? If in the affirmative from where can one get it?

s pulis

Oct 14th 2009, 16:46

Komlu ghixu fil-passat!!!!!!

lzammit

Oct 14th 2009, 16:40

I suppose it is YOU, who are in a sorry state Mr Micallef. Yes, we who lived through those very ugly days, do care and can NEVER forget them. It is right that this generation is reminded of those bad old days as several of the MLP stalwarts then are still lurking in the PL now. That is why the electorate should beware as you will NEVER change. Kif int indottrinat, x'wahda din!!!!!!!

angelo muscat

Oct 14th 2009, 16:31

LET NOT FORGETT THESE HORRIBLE SIGHTS BY THE SOCIALIST THUGS SUGGEST THAT THIS VIDEO BE SHOWN EVERY FIRST MONDAY OF EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR. ON THE TIMESOFMALTA.COM.SO PEOPLE WILL NEVER TRUST THE SOCIALISTS WHERE EVER THEY ARE.

Robert Aquilina

Oct 14th 2009, 16:31

@d Micallef

There is a saying in Maltese 'il-passar huwa l-mera tal futur' and after all are you one of those geniuses that don't care about the History or are you the one that only want to remember 'il-Helsien'. No one is saying that there aren't any problems at the moment but I am sure that there is no harm in remembering what we had to pass thru to be at where we are today.
Or else you are showing that you where not present at that time and obviously you don't care

M. Busuttil

Oct 14th 2009, 16:30

Why issue another video?? when last Monday we already read about the facts with those interviews we had. Think now we already know what happened.

Seems to me the same old story, a party who talks about vision 2015 but still is recounting stores of 30 years ago!!

Can I have a private jet and leave this island!!

André Xuereb

Oct 14th 2009, 16:30

D Micallef: Surely The Times is entitled to revisit its own past..?

K Gauci

Oct 14th 2009, 16:29

Will there be a documentary on what happened in the 1960's? Will there be a documentary on the Interdict?

Fenech M D

Oct 14th 2009, 16:26

Se jissemma x'kien gara Haz Zebbug meta ntefghu l-ballabostri fuq in-nies li kienu qed jattendu meeting tal-LP?

david attard

Oct 14th 2009, 16:22

I care!

d micallef

Oct 14th 2009, 15:54

Who cares what happened 30 years ago? Both political parties are now mature enough and what happened decades ago surely will not happen again. If you ask me this is cheap propaganda and shows that the Gonzi govt is in a very sorry state. And why a video of black Monday only? As if bad things happened only in the 70s, to be fair you should show a feature about the intimidation and famine of the 60's . The citizens are more concerned about the huge debt that this govt created, about job security, corruption, discrimination, environment decline in tourism etc etc, then what happened decades ago.