Half of University students agree with gay marriage - survey

Mr Carmel Pule'

Jun 6th 2011, 00:22

This is what will happen at our University if students believe in what they say?
Four friends, who hadn't seen each other in 30 years, reunited at a party.**
After several drinks, one of the men had to use the rest room.
Those who remained talked about their kids.
The first guy said, 'My son is my pride and joy. He started working at a successful company at the bottom of the barrel.He studied Economics and Business Administration at University and soon began to climb the corporate ladder and now he's the president of the company. He became so rich that he gave his best friend a top of the line Mercedes for his birthday.'
The second guy said, 'Darn, that's terrific! My son is also my pride and joy. He started working for a big airline, after attending University and then went to flight school to become a pilot. Eventually he became a partner in the company, where he owns the majority of its assets He's so rich that he gave his best friend a brand new jet for his birthday.'
The third man said: 'Well, that's terrific! My son studied in the best universities and became an engineer. Then he started his own construction company and is now a multimillionaire. He also gave away something very nice and expensive to his best friend for his
birthday: A 30,000 square foot mansion.'
The three friends congratulated each other just as the fourth returned from the restroom and asked: 'What are all the congratulations for?' One of the three said: 'We were talking about the pride we feel for the successes of our sons. ...What about your son?'
The fourth man replied: 'My son also went to University, is gay and makes a living dancing as a stripper at a nightclub.'
The three friends said: 'What a shame... what a disappointment..'
The fourth man replied: 'No, I'm not ashamed. He's my son and I love him. And he hasn't done too badly either. His birthday was two weeks ago, and he received a beautiful 30,000 square foot mansion, a brand new jet and a top of the line Mercedes from his three boyfriends.’*

joseph Carmel Chetcuti

Nov 5th 2009, 23:04

Some of your contributors claim to know what God (assuming he, she or it exists) says or wants of us. We have no original Bible and anyway remotely interested in theology should know that we only have copies of copies of copies and translations of translations of translations of what purports to be the word of God. In any event, God said some silly things in the Bible and it is about time we grow up and ditch this whole nonsense. Anyone who believes that God became man and was born of a virgin needs to be put in a mental asylum. Gay love is something we see and touch. The Christian God is someone we neither see, hear or touch. With all due respect, he is the figment of some of your readers' imagination. Joseph Carmel Chetcuti

Joseph Aquilina

Nov 4th 2009, 23:21

@Marc Buhagiar

Marc God is not a religion like you think He is. You cannot have a personal relation with God if you do the opposite to what God commanded you to do and not to do in order to have salvation. God does not change to accomodate your behaviour. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. And he hates the act of homosexuality wether you like it or not. And please do NOT mock God. What He said is final and He is not going to change that to accomodate you. And NO, I will not see you in hell because I know where I am going after I leave this life. I hope the Holy Spirit will open your eyes before it is too late for you.

Joseph Aquilina, Ontario, CANADA

Marc Buhagiar

Oct 26th 2009, 23:07

You know it is nice to see that slowly but surely we are moving out of the dark ages. :)

It is about time that we, like all other developed countries, move away from the tyranny of the church. As for you lot, hereunder who are saying that being gay is a sin and whatnot, spreading your hate which can be as deadly and vile as the plague, I have only one thing to say to you...

See you in hell. According to your religion, the same religion I was brought up with because my family is catholic - according to your religion God and Jesus were all about spreading the word of love. They must be very displeased with you around 2000 years later spreading your hate like poison which is why you are probably going to hell as well. Therefore I will see you all in the after life. :)

Joseph Aquilina

Oct 16th 2009, 07:42

@E Borg,
I merely said that I cannot answer your question because I am neither one of those animals you mentioned. As for you teaching in a Catholic environment you should know not to divide the word of God. Yes the Bible was written by men (PROPHETS) who were inspired by the Holy Spirit, and yes the most importamnt message is LOVE not of hate. And no it's not a threat of Eternal Punishment...not threats but the TRUTH. God hates the act of homosexuality but He loves the gays. He does not like their actions. You are not judged by me...I am not superior to you...but GOD is superior toi you and me. You are dividing the Word of God and understand it the way you wnat it to be not what it actually is.

Joseph Aquilina, Ontario, CANADA

Joseph Aquilina

Oct 15th 2009, 21:16

@m.e.schembri

You are right in part. Yes, God loves us all including the gays, but He does not like some of our actions. We are made in God's image, but to maintain that image do what He instructed us to do and what not to do. If you are are implying that God approves of the homosexual act, you are mistaken. God is Holy, and in heaven there is no place for sin. Lucifer was quickly booted out of heaven for his pride don't let it happen to you. Even if you agree with the sinner, you will be just as guilty. "Who knowing the judgement of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death (hell), not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them". (Romans 1:32).
I'm sure your mother loved you now and when you were in her care, but I'm sure you were punished when you did something wrong. God is the same, He loves us all, but He also punishes those who go against His principles.

Joseph Aquilina, Ontario, CANADA

E Borg

Oct 15th 2009, 20:49

@Joseph Aquilina
My question was not whether you were an animal; I merely responded to your “Justification” that homosexuality is not natural. You are avoiding the question whether you CHOSE to be heterosexual or not. My logic is that if you DID choose, then THAT is unnatural. Any confident heterosexual does NOT need to choose, they simply ARE.

Of course, some would do anything to justify their HATE, even the Bible. As far as I know, the word of God was written by MAN, and it has to be seen as a whole, not by taking a few verses out of context and interpreting them according to one’s wishes. Moreover, from all the years of teaching in a Catholic environment, I can safely say that the most important message written in the Bible is one of LOVE, not of hate or of threats of Eternal Punishment.

I am happy to form part of a community which may not always agree with me, but I, for one will not TOLERATE being judged by someone who deems themselves superior. After all, in the Bible it says “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone“(John8v7).

m.e.schembri

Oct 15th 2009, 20:00

young people are the future of the world. i am a happily married woman (thank god) and i believe that all people are entitled to find and live this happiness. i see nothing wrong with gay marriages as they give gay people those rights that our predecessors fought so hard to get for all of us...visit your partner in hospital, bereavement leave, fair inheritance laws in case there is a sudden death and no will was made...all these things together with recognition should be given to every couple, whatever their sexual orientation may be. i suggest to those who oppose to look up shylock's speech in shakespeare's merchant of venice or else try the bible...you know, where it says that we are all god's children and that god loves us all no matter what...i guess he meant even if you are gay. i personally can't see much difference between a gay person and myself...same physical and mental attributes really...we are all made in god's image, we all have a soul and he loves us all in the same way. and remember: judge not or ye may be judged!

Steve Pace

Oct 15th 2009, 17:21

"The University Chaplaincy's survey did not ask about gay marriage, but found that only 44 per cent of students were against divorce. Three quarters of students said there was nothing wrong with pre-marital sex and that cohabitation should be approved." Amen ! and finally some breath of fresh air !

Marisa Parnis

Oct 15th 2009, 14:15

The majority has spoken.

Do you really think your old views matter anymore conservatives? They're in university, and they've made up their minds about life.

So sit there and shut your mouth like we've done for the past 18-25 years, and let us take over.

If you don't like the way we've become, you only have yourselves to blame for how you brought us up.

Joe Xuereb

Oct 15th 2009, 11:54

Michael Neville Cassar. It is obvious you have never heard of people who are naturally bisexual. It is obvious that you are unaware of the legions of men, married with children, who are homosexual.
About the 'tree bearing fruit' and the its 'condemnation' if it does not. The implication here is that such a tree would be chopped down. Charming use of words Charles Neville, you are now famous for your choice of words. Well, the bearing of fruit of a tree is only the start of a lifelong struggle for the tree and its fruit. But one thing I am sure of. I would not want to be an apple on your tree, Charles Neville. I would rather be in bondage any day.
I AM SORRY BUT I REALLY COULD NOT HAVE PUT THIS IN SIMPLER LANGUAGE.

Joseph Aquilina

Oct 15th 2009, 02:11

@E Borg
I m not a penguin, swan, lion, giraffe, dolphin insect etc., so I cannot answer you on that. I am a human being. If you wish to be gay that is up to you. God gave you a free choice to do what you want, but you should look at the consequences by doing so. God created Adam, and Eve to be his partner and not Adam and Steve. God knew what He was doing.

Joseph Aquilina, Ontario, CANADA

Joseph Aquilina

Oct 15th 2009, 02:09

@J.Xuereb
Proud not to say "catholic Malta" anymore!! Do you think that the subject of opposing homosexuality was invented by the Catholic church? God was against it and will ever be. See what the Word of God says: "WhereforeGod also gave them up to uncleanliness through the lasts of of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves" (Rom.v24)
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature" (v26)
" And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another: men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (v27).
No, I am not a Catholic neither am I protestant. I just follow the Word of God.
You seem to forget Mr. Xuereb, that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for that reason, and finally the whole world in the floods. it is not hard for God to destroy Malta by sinking such a small (but beautiful island). Don't let it happen through democracy and than after that blame God for it's destruction.

E Borg

Oct 14th 2009, 20:06

@Joseph Aquilina
Interesting, being gay is not natural according to you. So how come homosexuality is something that occurs in the animal kingdom, such as with penguins, swans, lions, giraffes, dolphins, insects etc…? And why are scientists reporting that the more boys a woman has, the higher the likelihood that they will be gay? See:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1209914,00.html

Perhaps it is a choice to live a gay lifestyle or stay in the closet, but I sincerely do not believe that one can choose to be homosexual the same way one cannot choose to be heterosexual. May I ask, since you know so much about the subject, was it a choice that you made yourself?

@Tania Walters
You seem to be very intent on going by the definition of marriage: But was marriage always defined in the same way as it is today? Is marriage not something that has been redefined repeatedly through the ages? After all, we do not have to go that far back to see marriages that were not even linked with romantic love, but were being simply arranged by the parents. Is that what you want marriage to be then?

E Borg

Oct 14th 2009, 13:35

I for one am glad to hear about this survey as it confirmed my thoughts, that in fact University students are more liberal and open-minded. Of course, it is also to be expected that the conservative groups within our society will be the first to try to “justify” their way of thought, their bigotry rather. However, in reality, these people do not need a survey; they just want things to stay the way they are. They are comfortable with the way things are and have been for ever since they remember and are AFRAID of whatever is different.

I for one would like to thank the new student organisation Move and hope that we will be hearing a lot more from them soon. If there is one big problem that is staring us in the face, it is not the survey methodology, but the underlying XENOPHOBIA and INTOLERANCE that is rotting our society!

Oh and one more thing… the word bondage already has a use in the English language, and it definitely is not synonymous with marriage or civil partnership.

Charles Grixti

Oct 14th 2009, 11:17

Why do people confuse marriage with reproduction? The two are mutually exclusive.

The idea that it cannot be a marriage if there are no babies or children involved is preposterous. By that reasoning then, infertile couples are not really married and if anyone over a certain age (after menopause for women for example) cannot get married.

What does it matter what it is called, Marriage or Civil Union, take your pick. If two people set up house together and share in the upkeep and maintenance of a household, they should be granted the same privileges at law, including pensions and inheritance rights as married couples.

In fact, this issue has been widened to include siblings who have always been together and are each others 'partners' for all intents and purposes in every way but sex. There is a case right now in Canada where two elderly ladies, twins, are fighting for legal recognition of such couples. They have lived together for 50 years, yet their union is not recognized and so they are deprived of the benefits that would otherwise be afforded any married couple in terms of pensions, social benefits etc.

Let us think outside the box.

Martha Degaetano

Oct 14th 2009, 10:39

Thank god for liberal offspring, at least my conservative classmates were good for something!


50 year old liberal

Colette Farrugia Bennett

Oct 14th 2009, 10:25

@ Michael Neville Cassar

Bondage....please do learn the meaning of that word because it utterly offensive to you that word for the love between two persons of the same sex.

Marriage is nothing more than a union, and nothing in the term union implies procreation, in fact the fertilization of an ovum does not need to have the marriage prerequisite for it to take place. Open your eyes and look at the world.

The university students are not the whole reflection of future generations, because it is a rather limited sample, however the random sampling method is in itself an approved method of carrying out research, and thus credit should be given to Move for taking the initiative to conduct this study and presenting the results. Hopefully among those respondents who are for same-sex marriage, some of them are Malta's future leaders who would be willing to legislate for equality between different-sex couples and same-sex couples. The love shared is equal after all.

Christian Sciberras

Oct 14th 2009, 10:12

And we were debating whether Vodafone's move and the condom machine were appropriate...

Angie Conti

Oct 14th 2009, 08:55

@Sandro Agius - What have crosses to do with it??? Guess we must've read a different article.
Democracy, freedom of choice, and so on....we can't claim to have these unless EVERYBODY is included!! If a person is unable to choose who he/she can marry, it surely defeats the issue of 'choice'.

Martin Spiteri

Oct 14th 2009, 08:43

why all the surprise? Does any one have the inclination to stop such a thing? Gays are humans, and have all the love and rights to form a marriage with a loved one. Since when have we become judges? How dare anyone try to impose and block it? A legal framework should exist to enhance these citizens to form their own love relationships. IF one is not gay , it doesnt mean that the other might not be gay! I for one do not drink alcohol, I have no right to ban alcohol just because I do not like it. If university students agree on gay marriage good for all. Never forget that a university is a place where there is unity in diversity and students believe in it. If there is part of you lot commenting here that have a problem with this issue I ask you all to go and have your brain checked. Everyone has a right to ones opinion. If this right is removed then even your right to comment here will be removed. I encourage a more sensible and human approach towards human sexuality and partnerships .

Mark Seychell

Oct 14th 2009, 08:41

Completely agree Mr Littlejohn. If there is anything I learned from my Geography A level, it is that when making surveys, one must use the right methodology and sampling.

Mark Seychell

Oct 14th 2009, 08:39

Half of the University students? How many were asked exactly? They most certainly did not ask me or anyone I know!

Peter Korsten

Oct 14th 2009, 08:36

I'm very happily married to my wife, not because I think it's "the right thing to do", let alone because other people expected it from me, but because I wanted to make that commitment to her, that I intend to stay with her for the rest of my life.

I fail to see why this opportunity, to make that commitment, should be denied to anybody. Apparently, most of the young and well-educated seem to agree with that. Unfortunately, the young and well-educated are a minority.

A. Saliba

Oct 14th 2009, 07:39

Only half?

H. Schembri

Oct 14th 2009, 07:25

To whom it may concern, hereunder.

May I ask, why are you attacking this survey? Is it due to being unprofessional and done with a hurry because it was 'being handed out between lectures or during recess - times when students are really not up to filling out forms' (V.Micallef)

Or because, you are truly against the subject topic of this survey? Hope it's the first, and not second.

@ marthese mussett - why do you hope this is not true? are you ashamed of gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual people in your country?

Jo Portelli

Oct 14th 2009, 07:17

Why is there so much obsession about Gays. Why does one have to say anything , for or against - tahts the real freedon. Why ask students, do they make the law now ? do they reflect what the country think?

The church / gays / student? sound like a jewish muslim story to me. Even the pope opens up teh church to all - why do we need the students openion - I dont trust the pupose of such questions called survey - this is no survey, this is perverse . Let students live their life with committing themselvs to survey questions and let teh citizens of the counrt decide what the Law should be.

If you ask children, should the school provide sweets, then you willget the answer you want but their parents and dentists would not alway this - what sillyinness - they could ahve asked about Carreers, Jobs, where they plan to be based after Graduating - just related and relevant questions that student only can answer - that would be usefull. Ask the children of a divorced parents about divorce not uni students who are planning trapping their mates partner evry nite at that age.

MGrech

Oct 14th 2009, 07:15

Who needs a DEBATE on sexual education? Since when do we DEBATE sexual education?! It is so 80s! Is MOVE really progressive, or is it some attention seeking bunch?

K.Saliba

Oct 14th 2009, 05:07

Just face it new generations aren't so narrow minded anymore with regards to what you old generations used to call as taboo's subjects and matters.

Tania Walters

Oct 14th 2009, 02:00

Wow, university students and never opened an Oxford dictionary to see the meaning of the word 'marriage'? Or they have the authority to change the meaning of the word 'marriage'? If these students strongly believe in recognised gay unions, then they should lobby for that, legalised recognised gay union. Just in case none of you students are aware, a marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Keep trying to destroy the family and the only progress you make would be to destroy your beautiful country. How pathetic.

J.Xuereb

Oct 14th 2009, 01:58

To all those who can't believe the survey: well dears whether you like it or not this is reality. You have voted for Malta to be part of the EU, so you have to accept that Malta is now part of the changing world. Yes it is great to see this survey result because at last we are proud not to say "catholic Malta" anymore!! It is very bad and anti-democratic to assume that the whole nation has to be Catholic and to believe in the catholic church. Democracy means diversity and acceptance of diversity. It is an egoistic act to accommodate yourselves in a "catholic" society and point your finger at others, like Gay people that they are living in sin!! Now the time has come for everyone to have a decent place in this society!!!

Stephen Borg Cardona

Oct 14th 2009, 01:15

Its good to know that we Maltese are growing more civilized,liberal and tolerant of others who are different.

Ian Abela

Oct 14th 2009, 00:15

@ V. Micallef
"I recall these questionnaires being handed out between lectures or during recess - times when students are really not up to filling out forms."
Funny how you can "recall" this, since it is absurdely untrue. During freshers' week there are no lectures for those students just starting. There is also no recess at all at the University, so I have no idea what you are on about.

Mentally deficient? Oh that's rich!

Peter Bonnici

Oct 14th 2009, 00:12

The word Progressive is being used rather liberally of late.

S Micallef

Oct 14th 2009, 00:12

Why is it that a survey where the majority of participants go against the beliefs of the church is deemed as being irrelevant or insignificant? No matter when, where or how this survey was conducted the outcome was what it was, and it's about time maltese people stopped being so close-minded. Why doesn't anyone think that it's possible that the students can have their own valid opinion about gay marriage, or anything for that matter?

R. Gauci

Oct 14th 2009, 00:06

If kids aren't involved I agree with gay marriage. Being gay isn't a crime so why should we deny them of living legally with a partner like we do? Obviously since to make children two different sexes have to be involved adoption is out of question, but marriage, why not?

Andrew Camilleri

Oct 14th 2009, 00:04

The sample is hardly representative, even though it was allegedly 'random'. One has to look at the type of person more likely to be at Quad, the age, the motivations to answer, the questions asked, the fact that people volunteered to answer rather then were chosen etc. etc. etc. These are all things which introduce bias and skew the result using a tool which is already not scientifically rigorous at all. The '50%' is probably very wide of the true value, and a completely different result would be obtained if a completely different (random) set of people answered - this is not the aim of a survey or study after all, which aims to extrapolate results to the entire population. A survey is not a study, so it is not representative. A survey is frankly as idiotic and unscientific as a vox-pop. Now these results may be reproduced in a proper study, but one should only comment on the results if they were carried out in a proper scientifically rigorous manner.

d cardona

Oct 13th 2009, 23:56

Half of the maltese students are sick

Christopher Higgans

Oct 13th 2009, 23:54

I refuse to believe that the methodology of the survey used was correct, but if this is so we should keep in mind that university students are our future generation who will be on top positions. What a shame!

Tiziana Pace

Oct 13th 2009, 23:46

@ V. Micallef - so students who have a resit are not worthy of opinion?!! So why don't we throw away their right to vote since apparently they have not enough brain cells to form an opinion and take a decision. Then again, take the vote of all the student body because they don't have enough experience to take any decisions...

Antoine Grima

Oct 13th 2009, 23:34

Live together yes.Marriage????NO WAY.I think that the result of this survey is frightening.I am not a religious fanatic,far from it,but please,this is insane

c.caruana

Oct 13th 2009, 23:32

welcome to the new generation!! i love this result!!

J.Azzopardi

Oct 13th 2009, 23:30

"Half of University students agree with gay marriage - survey" - So What !

"they paint a picture of a surprisingly liberal student body"

OK we get it :
Move = Liberal = Progressive
for whatever "progressive" might mean !

Jon Agius

Oct 13th 2009, 23:18

I am a University student and I have never heard of this progressive group. What is the point of gay marriages? To try to say that they are treated equally? Education and behaviour towards homosexuals should be introduced and not marriages. It's useless. And then what? Then after gay marriage it would be separation, divorce, annulment and say 10-50 more years and it would be children adoption because 2 homosexuals are a normal couple just like a heterosexual couple. Come on. Let's not be a joke. Who are we kidding? Can't homosexuals just live together. This whole thing is political and not about principles. A politician raises this thing to gain votes and not because he care at all. The group has raised this thing because they are new and want to gain popularity.

Joe Xuereb

Oct 13th 2009, 23:15

This is interesting. It rather turns on its head the argument, voiced by (too) many, that Vodafone was out of order in giving out free condoms, etc. The survey shows that young people have their head screwed on the right way. And it looks like some do not like this. They feel threatened.
V. Micallef. You sound like you have young children and you would like them to inherit a 'golden age' that never existed. That is not a realistic expection now, never mind in twenty years' time.
It also sounds like these students have a view of marriage sufficiently different to that of their parents and feel threatened by the prospect of gay marriages not at all. Power to the young. They deserve more respect as they have a credibility beyond their young years. And this because values formed on the streets are worth infinitely more than those that thunder down from some mythical heaven.

sandro spiteri

Oct 13th 2009, 23:14

First of all I would like to ask how many gay students were involved in this survery, and secondly how many known or declared as gay (students) are there at the university?

Dr Ing Patrick Attard

Oct 13th 2009, 23:03

Gay marriage isn't something diabolical which gays do just to defy the Church.

It is about the rights to visit your sick partner in hospital a take the bereavement leave in case of his death. It is about being more human to people whose only fault is being different.

Watch President Obama addressing a HRC conference: http://patrickattard.blogspot.com/2009/10/hrc-president-obama-obama-addresses-gay.html

Graham Crocker

Oct 13th 2009, 22:54

Sandro Agius, why does it matter? You believe Jesus died for your sins, but other people see it for what it is, a statue of a beaten and tortured man dying on a killing device.
Don't you see the irony? God said, "5. Thou shalt not kill", yet it is through men braking God's laws that our souls were saved from eternal damnation.

The reality is its a symbol of oppression. A symbol of the church's power that has permeated through all areas of society. It doesn't belong in a university lecture hall, where science and art is taught. It belongs in a chapel, where people give easy answers for all the hard questions in life. If University was like that, we would still think that the Sun revolves around the Earth or that Earth was flat or believe in Genesis etc etc

V.Micallef,K.Pullicino , I don't know what Dr.Wotsit tried to portray when he said that he is "progressive" (which he ain't) , because progressive means a liberal attitude towards social policy i.e. more personal freedom i.e. in favor of divorce,abortion,same-sex-marriage ,gay-adoption, cultural pluralism, stem-cell research,etc).

Joseph Aquilina

Oct 13th 2009, 22:47

I suppose those students who believe gay marriage should be introduced in Malta are gays. Gays were not created that way...they chose to chose that life style. What is happening to the Island of ST. Paul? Is Malta going nuts same as some other countries? It's time the so called university students realise the difference between the natural and the unnatural, perhaps they did not learn that yet. What a stupid world we are living in. God help us.

Joseph Aquilina, Ontario, CANADA

L.Mizzi

Oct 13th 2009, 22:43

I sincerely hope this is not true ....

L.Bugeja

Oct 13th 2009, 22:41

Being a university student i am happy that finally maltese youngsters are going 'against' the church rules and are not afraid to show their thoughts and their beliefs! sincerely i wasn't part of this survey but i would have with no doubt answered YES! we always say we are all equal... therefore it is time to start implementing equaitywithout being influenced by no one and no authorithies!! after all if you want to put it inn that way we are al created by god with no differences!!!

Paula Cassar

Oct 13th 2009, 22:40

I love the way all Muscat's "independent" projects are branded as "progressive". I mean, if they wanted to sell his agenda better or sound independent for that matter, they could have stuck to "liberal" or "open-minded".

Clint Bajada

Oct 13th 2009, 22:33

Newsworthy indeed. It is refreshing to note that the up and coming generations are agreeing on gay marriages, the use of artificial contraception, abortion and so forth. Sooner or later we will harmonise our laws with the rest of EU

Maria Pace

Oct 13th 2009, 22:24

@ K.Little John

If you have an idea on research methods, you would know that random sampling is 'methodology'...in fact, it is often very vital,necessary and inevitable.

The truth is that yes, most students do not agree with the church's teachings. Period.

Michael Neville Cassar

Oct 13th 2009, 22:13

The word marriage can only be used between opposite sex the only word that can be used for gay is bondage yes gays can be bondaged together but never marred they can never conceive a human embryo as they are of the same sex. For all intense and purpose right or wrong they are all condemned to be a tree that bears no fruit.

Andrew Paris

Oct 13th 2009, 22:09

Who cares about the survey.
As long as 2 people are in love, marriage or not, that bond is the most important.
As for the hetro marriage, it seems to be in shamble around the world and the majority of people except it.

Byron Camilleri

Oct 13th 2009, 21:57

MOVE invites everyone to attend the launch of the survey tomorrow on campus @ 12.00hrs. The survey was conducted and examined by a professional statistician.

Also, there will be a debate called SEX FOR L(a)UNCH where students are invited to debate sexual health issues, and whether condom machines should be installed on campus to promote a healthy sexual life among University students.

Patrick Vella

Oct 13th 2009, 21:56

Reading some the comments below, it seems that Malta still has to emerge from the middle ages. Thumbs up.

marthese mussett

Oct 13th 2009, 21:53

I hope there this is not true

Sandro Agius

Oct 13th 2009, 21:38

whatsoever result a survey have....what is wrong can never become right....seems strange on the other hand that crosses were removed from University Lecture Rooms and not sure about this but seems also from the Junior College the cross was removed....what's wrong with a cross I ask....and lets not point fingers on non-christians....who took them off had no pressure to do so.

V. Micallef

Oct 13th 2009, 21:35

'Progressive' students - what is the average age of the students who took part in the survey? I recall these questionnaires being handed out between lectures or during recess - times when students are really not up to filling out forms. Therefore the importance of data collection is lost on the rushed, careless or mentally deficient. Only a small percentage may actually be worthy of giving an opinion. Plus it is ridiculous that students are the ones to comment on an institution of which their only knowledge is that of observation - parents. They may hear their parents arguing or complaining about something or other, time and time again, and suddenly have an all-important opinion about life without actually having lived it. Liberal student body? Face it - we were all liberal and ready to change the face of our island - until we grew up and matured nicely. And in that maturity, we continue to form our lives, our families, our country. And to pass that on to our children as they grow. Survey? BIN IT.

K.Littlejohn

Oct 13th 2009, 21:32

ok Mr. Farrugia. Give me the methodological method used in this survey. As far as i am concerned, the questions were asked during fresher's week with no sampling whatsoever!

Mike Orland

Oct 13th 2009, 21:30

@ K. Littlejohn - Random is a methodology. You have 1 population University students and a method of choice which is indiscriminate. That's a good way of doing a survey. Of course it cannot be generalised to the whole Maltese population, but it surely is a survey that can be generalised amongst the university population with some margin of error of course.

Can't understand your comment.

K. Pullicino

Oct 13th 2009, 21:26

Define progressive.

Martin Farrugia

Oct 13th 2009, 21:26

That was silly Mr. Littlejohn. Everyone knows that the random selection of respondents is a key prerequisite of obtaining a sample representative of the whole (student) population. It is precisely the 'randomness' in the selection of respondents that renders this research fully in line with the accepted scientific methodology of the social ciences.

Rather than attacking the research, you may find that a rational, critical yet unprejudiced appraisal of the results is more fruitful to your cause, whatever that may be.

M Theuma

Oct 13th 2009, 21:25

Simply pathetic!

K.Littlejohn

Oct 13th 2009, 21:15

Oh what a Survey! If i am not mistaken students were asked randomly, with no Methodology applied to this ' Survey'!