PN calls on PL to take position on immigration in the EP

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 2nd 2009, 11:57

J Martinelli
'Posting a quota on the number of immigrants '
can you tell me why this is not a good idea
do you want malta to be flooded and taken over by african immigrants?
it is the only solution.
The least we can do is control the influx of immigrants.
I think this is the best answer by declaring that we can only sustain a certain quota...over that number will simply mean lack of adequate care for them so tha then they can't hold us responsible. I personally prefer this idea better than the veto which is very risky and should only be considered under dire conditions and as a last resort.
'THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION...please refrain from trying to associate me with any party...i vote who i think works in the interest of all maltese.

Joe Micallef

Oct 2nd 2009, 09:08

@ Mark Borg

Hi bright one......and what if, in line with the PES, after the election your dear "as bright" leader says that we should facilitate integration?

On the other hand now I understand why the PL is very, but very, dry on ideas and suggestions. IT IS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT THE PN TO COPY......Ah woooooow how intelligent!!!!!! Ehhh those naughty PN copycats......

Denis Catania

Oct 2nd 2009, 07:23

I commend the government for asking the opposition for help on Malta's biggest problem since WW2. The two parties along with the smaller parties need to come together to solve the illegal immigration problem in Malta.

J Martinelli

Oct 1st 2009, 22:10

@ JF Vassallo Ebejer

If my memory serves me right, the LP's stand against illegal immigration included:

Voting against the burden sharing agreement.
Using the Veto power to stall EU business.
Posting a quota on the number of immigrants without explaining how many and how that would work.

Such are the LP's solutions! Cockeyed, skewed and illogical.

Had we voted against the burden sharing agreement the six EU members (and more to follow) would not have come forward willing to help.
Had we used the Veto to bully the EU, surely the other 26 would have found a way of getting even!
And when the LP quota is reached, then what? Post a sign at the Grand Harbour instructing arrivals above quota to turn back to where they came from? Shoot at them at sea? Not rescue them if they found themselves in difficulty?

Why does not the LP, just for a change, come up with serious and workable solutions, if they have any, and if not, join with the government's efforts to make the best out of a difficult situation?

michael fenech

Oct 1st 2009, 22:05

@ JF Vasallo Ebejer,

Very well said, can't agree with you more.

Charles Zammit

Oct 1st 2009, 21:07

Was it not Gonzipn who bloated that their party forms part of the biggest parliamentary group in the EU. Isn't Dr. Busuttil the appointed rapporteur on Illegal immigration? Why then is the PN after support from the PL??

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 20:35

G . Mangion
let it be known that I speak for myself and no other. The 'your kap' jokes and shame becuase I conveyed my 'personal' opinion should put you to shame instead.
I speak for myself and not Joseph Muscat base on how I interpret things.
Thanks.!

Charles J. Buttigieg

Oct 1st 2009, 19:29

Good old Gonzipn they never change, when figures are positively high they boast of their achievements, they claim that they are the fathers and try to ridicule the opposition, when the ambience takes a negative turn the situation becomes an orphan, they term it a national issue and expect the opposition to join their fore to bring the ship to shore.

Ethelbert Schembri

Oct 1st 2009, 19:27

Question to the PN....
Do you want the PL to copy you in the 80s??? To go out and do as you did??

So do not talk about putting pressure on the socialists, you do your part here because you are in GOV and also do the pressure necessary as a GOV on other GOVs around the EU as you promised.

JF Vassallo Ebejer

Oct 1st 2009, 19:25

To the anti-Labour brigade

Perhaps your memory is not serving you well – PL made its stand on immigration very public, at least on two occasions, but especially during the “negotiations” when the Maltese “government” accepted, against PL’s advice, the burden sharing agreement.

At that time, you and your political puppet-masters embarked on an aggressive campaign against PL’s suggestions and advice.

It is obvious that your “government” is out of its depth, and its only solution is to try and focus the attention on PL, when in fact it should be facing the problem head on.

Enjoy it, you voted these incompetents in……..

G . Mangion

Oct 1st 2009, 18:39

@ mark borg
SHAME ON YOUR COMMENTS,
YOU ARE EXPOSING, YOUR .... THE ' LE POLICY OF THE MLP IN THE OPPOSTION !
Do you think your Kap is happy at these low comments ? it is You and your likes that are
dameging your party !!! Take My adviice and apply for an advisor to the Kap ! L.O.L.

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 18:22

@ Raphael E Vassallo
yes we know that gonzi in so uninterested in the immigration problem that to german media he said...it is like 1,600 in germany per year...instead of 160,000 immigrants per year in germany. can you imagine that. the prime minister making such a blunder live on tv...i can give you the youtube video if you dont believe me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z44NPwFKFEE
Gonzi just doesn't have the will or backbone to act..Dr.Muscat has said ..maltese national interest comes first. He is even ready to veto all EU issues until they take us seriously.

m azzopardi

Oct 1st 2009, 18:20

i call both parties including the government to take a stand about illegal immigration, send them back and forget about the stupid burden sharing!!!

Joseph Calleja

Oct 1st 2009, 18:14

From the comments below, it is obvious that neither party is doing anything to help solve the illegal immigration problem. As usual pointing fingers at one or the other party. Wouldn't it be smarter and more beneficial if Mr Gonzi and Mr Muscat put their heads together and both parties try to find a solution to rid Malta of this immigration invasion. Set politics aside for a change and think of Malta as a whole instead of finding blame. No matter who the leader is, this is a Malta problem, not a party problem. There are a lot more areas to argue about, but the illegal immigration problem should take presidence, because it effects all of Malta and every Maltese citizen. As you can see the EU is letting Malta fend for itself.

Joe Fenech

Oct 1st 2009, 17:58

Stop asking the EU for help. Illegal immigrants is Malta's problem and it's for her to solve it! A good strong government is all one needs and no one will ever set foot here in an illegal manner!

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 17:54

has gonzi finally realized that the burden sharing 'joke' is just a dream. if gonzi has given up and exhausted all his ideas and pretends others to solve the problem then he should resign and make way for others who have the courage and backbone to confront EU on this matter. we have been fooled and patted on the back far enough now by europe. All we hear is yes malta is right we should sahre the burden..but no-one wants to actually share it do they...its like im driving a car and i ask the passenger to stop the car when i see a wall instead of pressing the breaks. Gonzi is the prime minister ..he is in charge, then show us you are in charge Gonzi and get the political will to stand firm and act in the interest of maltese first and foremost.

Raphael E Vassallo

Oct 1st 2009, 17:46

@ Mark Borg
'PL will take a stand on immigration...once it is in power ...why give you ideas so that you can take credit'.
That's exactly what Joseh Muscat must do..............tell us how he plans to solve the many problems facing this country of ours, that is, if he really seriously wants to win the next elections. We know what the PN stands for, so we need to know how he plans to tackle the issues before us.

T.gauci

Oct 1st 2009, 17:20

Nowadays PN is socialist and left wing party. True nationalists shall repatriate all immigrants to Libya. how can you call yourself "Nationalists" and "conservative" when you are in favor of illegal immigration. that's absurd

Muscat Pat

Oct 1st 2009, 17:12

And why can.t Gonzi ask Barroso- his friend from same ideological group-to help Malta? Up to now Barroso and his political group let Malta face the music of illegal immigrants ....on its own! Gonzi could ask Berlusconi-our Italian friend, and again, member of the same political group to help Malta! Instead, so far Gonzi has only managed to allienate the Italians, who are very famous for showing arrogance with the weak, and "coraggio fuggiamo" with the strong???

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 16:28

here we go again playing the racism card. you wanted a solution I gave you two...the problem is gonzi doesn't have the backbone to say that our national interest and homogenic survival comes first...and he's a nationalist...ironic.

r pace bonello

Oct 1st 2009, 16:21

@M Borg

Your comments are simply brilliant and will surely impress Dr Muscat! Stand by the phone and wait for his call to join his band of advisors.

malcolm seychell

Oct 1st 2009, 16:19

Razzisti. Playing the immigration issue :)

Dear PN, first you better get rid of the people within your party who are all out in favour of illegal immigrants and who can fit perfectly within the socilaist group in Europe and not with a nationalist party.

First you have to find again your identity.

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 16:19

@ all those who addressed me.
don't you remember verhaugen giving us suppost (in words)
do you remeber frattini barros and all the EU leaders giving us support. (in words)
action speaks louder than words.
The time for asking and bickering is over. Gonzi needs to make a stand himself..all of Malta is behind him why doesn't he simply say that due to overcrowding Malta is unable to take further immigrants and our ports are not safe anymore...then the EU will stop playing us fools and really take notice of us..not just words, a defunct burden sharing and a pat on the back.

M Tabone

Oct 1st 2009, 16:07

@Mark Borg
What are you going on about? Do you know what you are saying? Please tell me you think this is 1st April and you're trying to fool us all....
@G Sinagra
You have no idea what you are saying.... if Ms. de Reyser is part of the Socialist group and she is proposing such measures obviously the Socialists are in a better position to deal with her.... have you bothered to read what she said after all?

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 16:07

we've been talking for 10 years...many EU delegates have said europe should help Malta...but talk is cheap...action speak louder than words...J.Muscat has already said that you can use the veto to threaten europe into action...why doesn't Gonzi have the backbone to do it? fejn huma l par idejn sodi...hlief neqirdu u neqirdu u nibatu l xmun tal burden sharing mamilnix s'issa...it is gonzi who should take a stand and not muscat.

A.Borg

Oct 1st 2009, 16:04

@Mark Borg

If your reasoning is correct...which is not, then why did you labourites went to vote for the MEPs. And why did you say you 'won' if you cannot use that for the good of the country?
In other words, the Maltese people voted for four labour MEPs so that they will go & fight for Malta's rights, and not wait until their party is in government. Otherwise, labour MEPs are simply a burden.

Joanne Micallef

Oct 1st 2009, 16:03

The PN who is the party in goverment can stop pointing it's fingers at the opposition since we're in this mess thanks to our than Prime Minister Dr EFA who was only too happy to bend over backwards in order to accommodate the EU, even when this meant going against what was best for our Nation. To add insult to injury, we now have Dr Gonzi another Nationalist prime minister who seems to be following in his predecessor’s footsteps.

g.sinagra

Oct 1st 2009, 15:55

It seems that belonging to "ma l'ikbar grupp (PPE)' count for nowt.

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 15:52

Yes I am serious ..becuase Gonzi wants to lure Muscat in a trap...let me explain...He wants him to stand against european socialists so that then gonzi can criticize him that his party which is socialist went against its own fundimentals to discredit him and against european socialists to alienate him from europe. Dr.Muscat is not so stupid as to get in this trap. If Gonzi is in goverment why does he pretend that Dr.Muscat solves the problem for him. At least first he should admit that his burden sharing was a failure...once gonzi admits that his goverment was a total failure on the immigration issue than muscat would likely help him in the interest of all Maltese. but not in this way for sure this is just another gonzi propoganda trap.

M. Tabone

Oct 1st 2009, 15:51

@Mark Borg
your comment simply highlights the huge limitations yourself and your party have with respect to the functions of the European Union and the function of MEPs in the European Parliament.... instead of countering ALL proposals the Government makes why don't you take some interest and actually read what Ms. Veronique de Keyser had to say today about Europe's dealings with illegal immigrants from Libya.... thats if you're at all interested to know what she actually said!

B Zammit

Oct 1st 2009, 15:40

@ mark borg
are you serious?? or is this the aftermath of the earthquake within the PL....immigration is today's problem not tomorrow..if there will be a tomorrow for PL

Sandro Agius

Oct 1st 2009, 15:39

@ Mark Borg if for disgrace PL will reason so, it would be again a party against a party....you are one who want Malta to go back to the 80's political moves....This is a case were National Unity is needed....I'm sure Dr. Joseph Muscat will act for the good, more of his country than of his party. Serious people and polticians do so...and thanks God Dr.Muscat is one of them....hope that this Mr.Borg don't think to enter politics

J Farrugia

Oct 1st 2009, 15:37

lejber will never help malta on the immigration issue. The party is divided over this issue and will never help Malta to releave itself of this national scourge. The government will have to go it alone. Lejber never worked in the national interest. always an obstacle to progress. That's why the people of malta (the majority) never had any faith in the Lejber leaderships. partit tal-LE even in the national interest.

Mark Cushcieri

Oct 1st 2009, 15:31

dear gonzi ..PL will take a stand on immigration...once it is in power ...why give you ideas so that you can take credit.
there are many solutions to the immigration problem.
let's just say burden sharing is not one of them.