BirdLife asks police to investigate FKNK official's comments

Joe Grima

Sep 27th 2009, 09:42

When I see or hear incidents like these I look to see what the Government intends to do or not do. We have to remember that the laws are there for everyone to uphold. If Government seeks to gain a political advantage by not applying the laws of the land, fairly; then that government is no longer mine.

J S Borg

Sep 26th 2009, 19:10

When i read statements like that the maltese hunters are shaming us allover europe I really feel sorry for for such contributors. I have just came from Germany and I always like to spend my holidays in the forest. While walking around one will come across quite a few illegal hunters hides. Mind you I am all out against game keeping. Some individuals who are against game keeping are as mad as the game keeprs.
Maybe one day one of the in the campain against hunting will organise another zealous campain for religious freedom in the near/middle east.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Sep 26th 2009, 17:15

Going through the comments below it is evident that the bombastic attitude being used by BLM and CABS is firing back at them! It is heartening to note that certain individuals who are known to have commented against hunting in the past are now showing their disapproval at BLM and CABS. Obviously there are the extremists whose blinkers will not allow them to see clearly!

Anyone with an iota of intelligence will realise the tactics being used by BLM, CABS and Co following the ECJ ruling! This decision has indeed been a blow for BLM and CABS. After reading such statements as: "We must not relent in our activity until Malta is a bird hunting-free zone", the recent ECJ ruling proved to be a great setback for them!!!

Jason Borg

Sep 26th 2009, 13:14

@ Andrew Gatt - u mela xi tridhom ikunu jekk mhux kaccaturi? Tghid ma jkollhomx xi POINTER maghhom biex zgur ma jaharbilhom xejn?

saviour attard

Sep 26th 2009, 11:28

There is only one reason why our politicians are impotent about this issue. They are being blackmailed by the hunters' votes.

Joe Xuereb

Sep 26th 2009, 11:05

Of course we have been here before (the depression, etc. with even the dog affected having been deprived of its outings with its master).
I can well imagine the adrenalin rush one gets seeing a bird fly within shooting range, aiming, shooting, shooting again, and again. And ordering the dog to do what it has been trained to do. Go fetch! And there is no appeasement. One kill begets another. And another. It is called blood-lust. Especially if there's money to be gained. And a macho image. And like with anglers, 'I caught one this big', stretching out one's arms. Unfortunately, nobody witnessed the landing of the catch.. Yes, the adrenalin rush, as I was saying. So character-forming, so identity-strengthening, so prestigious. Quite a lot in common with any addiction in fact. Take away the fix and one disintegrates. One becomes depressed. One does not treat cocaine cold-turkey with more cocaine. One gives methadone, a substitute. One can take up bowling instead, or bird-watching. If it rains, one can decide to play or watch in spite of the rain.If not, wait until the sun shines again. And one will not disintegrate. No need for a shrink. Don't be dramatic.

Francis X Grima

Sep 26th 2009, 09:34

Hunting should be abolished once and for all. Hunters are making Malta the laughing stock of Europe and the world. There are a lot of more important national and international issues about which to discuss, argue and agree.
Is there the possibility of a referendum to ban hunting, trapping and conservation (?) of these lovely creatures?
God created them for humans to enjoy not to hunt and kill them.

Alex Casha

Sep 26th 2009, 06:38

Illegal hunting is still the everyday order. Protected birds are not safe, as poachers still target them. The FKNK should start a BIG educational campaign towards the hunters at least not to shoot down protected birds. The authorities have to step up enforcement, and set up the long awaited environmental police unit.

Andrew Agius

Sep 26th 2009, 00:45

Let them kill as much as they like.......apparently our government and our opposition, especially the minister responsible for the environment, are living in another world! And i do not agree that they have other important issues....because this cruelty should be one of the top agendas especially for the minister responsible for the environment.
but on the other hand good luck hunter....continue with this act because it's a free world and in malta you can do what ever you feel to do.....but of course not for the poor birdie......

Anthony Borg

Sep 26th 2009, 00:07

@jimmy Vella & J Spiteri
If Maltese hunters are going to vote Labour do you think that the rest of Maltese people are going to vote for the birds (PN)? Good joke.
@adrian agius
QUOTING 'every morning between 7.30 and 9 and hear the shooting that takes place obviously from Msida roof tops!!'. Obviously you're a BLM member..TARA KBIR.

Andrew Gatt

Sep 25th 2009, 22:25

Disgusting filth. I detest these scum as much as I detest the extremist glee, arrogant interference, barrage of propaganda, slurs on my country, blanket accusations, outrageous lies and blatant misinformation of the antis.

And no, Martin, they are NOT hunters.

J.Calleja

Sep 25th 2009, 21:49

I can't believe to my eyes....six shoots to a bird .... ridiculous..
STOP THIS ILLEGAL HUNTING ONCE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

J.Calleja

Sep 25th 2009, 21:46

I can't believe to my eyes....six shots to a bird .... ridiculous..
STOP THIS ILLEGAL HUNTING ONCE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Francis Buhagiar

Sep 25th 2009, 20:58

Do you know how many people take anti depressant pills ordered by their personal GP. or their psychiatrist? Most of them drive a car, shall we inhibit them from driving too. Is it a crime when one feel sick.
When the labour government extended Luqa airport, in Kirkop and the surrounding villages, several old people who in the morning used to grab a sack and a hoe put it over their shoulder and make their way to ta Lisqof where today there is the airport terminal. They do some work in their field fill the sack with weed for their rabbits and by ten o’clock they will be back home tired but content. That same year that the bulldozers entered into their fields to start the project a vast majority of these so called old farmers have died. The others who were not that much old has gone mad, but this is not an argument which I should deal with because it is not Christian to open closed wounds. I am sure that most of these so called hunters are the same as those old farmers.
Frans Buhaagiar
Safi

Martin Grima

Sep 25th 2009, 19:14

I am sitting back waiting to see what the usual apologists will come up with this time round... this footage is disgusting, shocking and shameful.

These hunters, and yes they are HUNTERs, since anyone out with a gun should be so classified, are making me sick! And before you ask, yes i own my own land which i work, and yes i lnow the difference between a raptor and a sparrow.

And yes i do report law breaking o the police, but they rarely turn up...

Anthony Borg

Sep 25th 2009, 18:54

So, with these two shot birds x 5000 imaginary shot birds..they will make 10,000 shot birds in yesterday's and today's BLM & CABS dossier..PLus a cowboy story from Attard..
WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!!!

R. Bezzina

Sep 25th 2009, 18:11

Disgusting. Hunters are Malta's real disgrace. The vast majority of the Maltese population cannot stand this situation any longer and are ashamed of them.

Anthony Borg

Sep 25th 2009, 18:03

hope that you filmed also the number plates of the poachers or their faces to give them to the local police to catch these criminals.
If I'm not going wrong,hunting season in banned in the afternoons, so all poachers that you'll talking about were all illegally out. I hope the you BLM and CABS took photos of those poachers too to get caught..
Quoting
' Another woman who was crying on the phone reported shooting of "big birds" in residential area in Attard. BirdLife even received calls of poachers shooting from the roofs of residences'.
1) First of all, i was working on the roof of my newly build house in Attard in the afternoon and i didn't heard any shots.Maybe the poacher /s was with a silencer..
2) If poachers were shooting from the roofs of residences did you phone the police and caught these animals?
I am totally against illegal hunting, and in my opinion poachers that are caught must have minimum of 10 years in prison, but when i listen or read what you BLM and CABS say, i don't believe you a word from ten..you are also exaggerating.

C. Farrugia

Sep 25th 2009, 17:51

We have a government and an oppostion who should be ashamed of themselves. They should hide their faces in shame at allowing this massacre continuing. This because of votes. It is only when people who love nature are strong enough to form a lobby that boycotts both anti-environment parties we have in Malta that they might decide to move.

D. A . Agius

Sep 25th 2009, 17:29

Judging by this article it's as if we're living in a state of war!

Honestly, does Birdlife believe the Police Force has 20 officers ready in the car waiting for Birdlife to call them out???? It probably doesn't even have that amount during a 24 hour shift to attend to riots, hold ups and other major crimes! Bird protection should not be even their job!

Birdlife should not only criticise, but state that, as per this case, its officials went to location A , confirm that they videod the incident, including perpetrators if seen, and since they saw them moving out from the location, they should have taken down the car NUMBERS and then distribute via internet all the footage without censorship. At the same time they should also file a police report and push police/courts to keep the general public informed of what happens.

On the other hand, from the Police side, the persons responsible for strategy or planning or environment should have long since come with some ideas to curb the illegal hunting efficiently and this is being dealt with. We rarely ifever hear from that side of the fence so please stand up and be seen!

jimmy Vella

Sep 25th 2009, 17:23

When is the prime minister going to stand up and say enough is enough it`s not about votes any more as all hunters will be voting to Muscat our new environment decimation opposition leader .

cdelia

Sep 25th 2009, 16:58

why was there nobody watching out for these scoundrels in the Adolorata cemetry. last evening shots were fired in a frenzy at :(kuccard) and many were hit as i could see them diving downwards. while all the attention was on Mizieb the hunters in the south were having a field day . a total ban is the next step
if some of them are suffering psychiatricly all the more why they should not be entrusted with guns
or maybe we should offer them therapy by allowing them to shoot all the year round
this is no hunt its a massacre

Jason Borg

Sep 25th 2009, 16:49

Wake up, Gonzi. About time you do something about this anarchy.

A.Sacco

Sep 25th 2009, 16:42

Hunters have always been, and will ever remain, the untouchables of Malta. Have gun, will rule. Government and Opposition have always put up a pusillanimous front in their regard. I don't hold out much hope that things will change for the better locally with regard to the preservation of endangered bird species. It's an innate trait in local hunters, at least in many of them,they have to shoot at anything that flies, irrespective whether it's protected or not. They just have to. Otherwise, you see, quoting from one of the hunters' association's spokesmen, if you touch their hobby, they go berserk.

Matthew Bonnici

Sep 25th 2009, 16:29

to Birdlife:

i find it rather comforting that probably police were busy doing other things rather than attending to bird matters.... i pay taxes to live better and not for birds to live better....

with all due respect this country should focus on more important things rather than birds being shot.

Priorities!!!!

J Spiteri

Sep 25th 2009, 16:23

When is the government going to realise that we have had enough of hunting and the killing of these beautiful birds! Dr Gonzi if you feel threatened by the hunters' votes rest assured that the vast majority of us are against hunting and we will back you - just make sure you put a stop to this now. FNKK stop being so pathetic - should I now start taking depressants or commit suicide just because I had an accident and cannot practice my hobby any more!

Jeremy J Camilleri

Sep 25th 2009, 16:21

Whilst I have never seen eye to eye with FKNK, and have been a paid member of Birdlife, and its Predecessor MOS in the past, it does seem that this issue is becoming a war of attrition.
This is now becoming ridiculous.

David Attard

Sep 25th 2009, 16:20

Birdlife should be asking the MEP's these questions......WAKE UP Birdlife!

Enya Stewart

Sep 25th 2009, 16:18

WIed Ghomor, right under a nearby Hotel,
less then the 200m stipulated,

Booom, Boooom BOOOM all the way...

Sights, sounds and bits of birds about - product Malta!!

j cutajar

Sep 25th 2009, 16:10

birdlife are at it again.....shooting birds to blame hunters.
I used to employ 4 builders (all hunters) & strangely enough they all used to get sick at the same time.

David Attard

Sep 25th 2009, 16:10

This is getting funnier by the day.
I agree with Birdlife but this is a joke really

Chris Galea

Sep 25th 2009, 16:02

" Another woman who was crying on the phone reported shooting of "big birds" in residential area in Attard. " - I think she too needs anti depressants or kalmanti !!!!!

adrian agius

Sep 25th 2009, 15:56

I invite all ministers and Parliamentary secretaries going to work in their nice jaguars and BMWs to stop near the university roundabout every morning between 7.30 and 9 and hear the shooting that takes place obviously from Msida roof tops!!!

MARIO CAMILLERI

Sep 25th 2009, 15:53

GOOD COMMENT FKNK. POLICE COMMISSIONER ACT URGENTLY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

P. Camilleri

Sep 25th 2009, 15:48

What a shame!!! Something should be done to stop this illegal hunting. Breaking the law has no consequences for these hunters. Shame on all those politicians that defend these hunters for the sake of a vote.