Vatican deplores indifference to migrants

Alexander Morana

Aug 23rd 2009, 20:11

I am not surprised to hear this coming from the Vatican. Finally the Vatican has chosen to take sides. I wonder which one the European one? I think not. Oh my dear God how Christian Europe has been forsaken.

A. Mifsud

Aug 23rd 2009, 14:15

'Judge not lest be te judged' ......'He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone'

We're all awaiting the Vatican to set the example and open the doors to illegal immigration.

P.Scicluna

Aug 23rd 2009, 13:49

Where is our bishop ?

a abela

Aug 23rd 2009, 13:23

Remove Malta's Vatican Diplomatic Mission following the incident.

Mark Bonello

Aug 23rd 2009, 11:59

It is true that indifference towards these migrants is not an ideal situation, but, it is also true that the Vatican could open its doors and accomodate any unwanted migrants from Malta and Italy until they settle down and get on with their lives.
After all the Vatican is another nation, with its own flag, leader, bank, radio, I am sure these poor souls can find a fairly paid job in one of the many operations and interests of the Vatican.
If maybe this is not to be sustainable, together with all the moneys collected from all around the whole globe through churches, then, I am sure some of the Vatican's treasures can be auctioned off to be able to finance the well being of these poor souls.
After all the Vatican is the seat of the Mother of all souls, mostly as we know it through our life long doctrine. Especially the poor souls.
Oh before I forget, there is a great reward in heaven for looking after the poor souls on this earth.
I do not wish to be taken for an athiest or of being anti religion, far from it.
But hypocracy is pathetic !

gaffarena joseph

Aug 23rd 2009, 11:20

The Vatican,can settle this issue if he wants,he can start taking them,and not just imposing what the state should do about them
Charity begins at home

joseph zammit

Aug 23rd 2009, 10:00

According to Corriere della Sera: http://www.corriere.it/cronache/09_agosto_22/strage_clandestini_canale_sicilia_ipotesi_omicidio_colposo_0eb597ec-8f02-11de-b751-00144f02aabc.shtml
the immigrants are giving a different version of the story putting the blame on Malta.
As regards the vatican, it is easy for the vatican authorities to bla bla as they know well how to do but in reality they do nothing. If they need money for the missions, they organise a monthly special collection in churches--this all means that it is the common man and woman who gives out money while the vatican basks in its wealth.

C.ZARB

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:53

Some may also ask why for example the Vatican bank does not sign treaties for better accountability in the banking sector. Its the only bank in the Western world not to sign these treaties.

There again, Christianity seems moving on a one lane. The church to its people

http://vodpod.com/watch/1980650-vaticano-s-p-a-

Joe Fenech

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:49

Malta needs to grow up and stop expecting the EU or the USA to sort problems which belong to HER and no one else!!!

Malta's facing an irriversable disaster only because of a weak government. Prosit Gonz...!

lgalea

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:23

This is just like the eu issue. The Vatican hypocrats encourage other countries to join the eu but the Vatican itself does not want to do what it preaches to others. It did not and does not want to join the eu because it wants to dictate not being dictated to.

lgalea

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:23

Doreen Mizzi
Take your head out of the sand and start seeing the reality which the rest if us are seeing, that is great strife between Maltese citizens who are the only rightful owners and residents pf Malta and the illegal immigrants. Why don't you go and help the illegal immigrants on their own countries Doreen?

malcolm seychell

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:21

As someone suggested, the Vatican should sell all its property and assets and give them to the poor.

Rocco Cauchi

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:14

International Law has often been dubbed as the law of the jungle.
There are no fixed rules and criteria to go by and it has, in its public aspect, been more concentrated on war and its ravages than the prevention of equally perilous difficult situations.
The situation is that Malta finds it difficult to control its FIR, Libya its Sahara and Med shoreline, and Italy its southernmost islands which, without Malta, are a bane to it.
There is a point in the Mediterranean where Malta and Libya's FIR meet. There is another more extensive area which could not be considered as either Maltese, Libyan or Italian territorial waters, and so somewhat of a no man's international sea area.
It is here where the UN (through UNCHR) and the Vatican (a not so rowdy but effective "salt seeder" at the UN) enter.
Vatican and UNCHR, and certainly not the EU, could start working on a serious plan to have ships based in these strategic positions with full and effective control on immigration problems arising in the region. Representatives of the three interested countries would also be present on board.
Such project would involve minimal expenses but plenty of good will.

joseph zammit

Aug 23rd 2009, 09:12

All this noise against the vatican! Someone said we maltese gave the vatican 13 million euros--is this true? If yes, then, shame on us!

j.azzopardi

Aug 23rd 2009, 08:03

please would the person in charge in vatican state allow just any one to become a citizen of the vatican state or a person applying for citizen ship there has to go under a scrutiny and then may be he is told of his faith or do they allow any one to go to their office and claim a status of residence and no question asked?

Doreen Mizzi

Aug 23rd 2009, 07:51

..and the Church in Malta,takes a populist stance ,and, by it's almost silence, approves the racism which has reared it's ugly head on these Islands. Yes there are voices within the Church which preach against hate, but they are few, and marginalised...

Ernest Vella

Aug 23rd 2009, 07:47

Why no pressure is made on Libya? I also deplore indifference....but the indifference who let them go from his shores....I deplore who altough having the resources is not helping them....maybe some youtube videos maybe true....there other reasons why they are letting them go....and were are the UNHCR....they just blame Malta or Italy and don't blame the perpetrators of the crime....maybe someone forgot one of the pillars of his faith....lets remind what alms giving means....its not just giving money...charity is much more than that!!!

Anthony Borg

Aug 23rd 2009, 07:30

The Vatican, like Malta, is a small State.
I wonder how many (illegal) immigrants are living there at the moment!

Louis Gialanze

Aug 23rd 2009, 07:05

How come the Vatican state doesn't take in say 100,000 illegal immigrants so as to lead by example. Why let it's richly ornated palaces empty!

P Debono

Aug 23rd 2009, 07:05

How about the Vatican takes up the illegals in their own vast palaces if they are so "concerned" about them? I've seen beggars and cripples outside the Vatican walls, but none of their do-gooders ever bat an eyelid on such people. The pope is still living the good life with his golden tunic and his five-star accommodation.

Joseph Sammut

Aug 23rd 2009, 05:41

How many illegals could be accepted by the Vatican State? Can it help out? I guest, if it ever does help out at all, when it reaches it's limits it would react the same way we are doing.

p agius

Aug 23rd 2009, 05:29

When pope john paul the FIRST tried to make out of the church "THE CHURCH OF THE POOR" the Vatican was compelled to change its pope........What was the issue? Very cimple .....Pope John Paul THE FIRST tried to practice what he preached but he was betrayed......

kenneth bonnici

Aug 23rd 2009, 04:59

i am sure there is a lot of empty rooms in vatican city.... and i am also sure they have good transprot facilities ....... so what are you waiting for?

A.E.Abela

Aug 23rd 2009, 04:27

What is the number of migrants currenty residing at Vatican city?

Denis Catania

Aug 23rd 2009, 04:00

As a Catholic I would like to put forward a motion and give the Vatican approval to sell all their assets including properties, gold, stocks, antiques and Vatican bank, and give it to poor in Africa. Anyone from the Vatican second this motion.

Raymond Cachia

Aug 23rd 2009, 02:24

Then as an independent State, the Vatican should put its money where its mouth is and offer them assylum and refugee status in Vatican City.

The Church should act by example if it wants to be taken seriously.

Or is it a case of multiculturalism is good for everyone, except of course for the Elite and the very rich.

I live in a country that practically invented 'multiculturalism' and made it the offiial policy of the State.

However, a couple of weeks ago, a black postman was delivering letters in the city's most affluent neighbourhood where the houses start at $5 million and upwards and he was stopped by the Police, and despite the postman's uniform, they did not believe him and were going to arrest him until his postal supervisor came down to identify him.

In other words, 'muliticulturalism' is good for everyone else, but for the Rich White Elite, who live only with their own kind in their heavily policed compounds that the lower castes cannot penetrate. And this is in a country that is touted as the bastion of 'Multiculturalism". What a big lie the Establishment is hoisting upon us.

Trevor Lorenzo Mizzi

Aug 23rd 2009, 02:06

"but selfishness and refusal to share what one has with others"

When the Vatican starts to sell off its massive wealth to help the less fortunate, will be the day that I will believe in their empty statements.

malcolm seychell

Aug 23rd 2009, 01:31

The Vatican should be ashamed of itself.

How many illegal immigrants do they host?

The perfect reply to this arrogant institution can be found in a reply from the Italian government.

http://www.rainews24.it/it/news.php?newsid=129196

No wonder many young people do not want to be part of the church.

L ipokrizija qed tirrenja.

Michael Andrews

Aug 23rd 2009, 01:24

"Our so-called civilised societies have in reality developed an attitude of rejection of foreigners, resulting not only from ignorance but selfishness and refusal to share what one has with others," Archbishop Antonio Maria Veglio told Radio Vatican

One can only share so much considering this island is very small so i suggest that if Archbishop Antonio Maria Veglio is really so concerned about the plight of these people...... when malta is full to the brim and can not cope any longer(which will not take too long) we send the remaining refugees that arrive here to the vatican where they can look after them themselves.
I never hear about them taking in refugees where they feed and house them as well as afford them their basic human rights and more like we do here in Malta.
Practice what you preach Archbishop Antonio Maria Veglio and i am sure others will follow.

lgalea

Aug 23rd 2009, 01:11

The Vatican should preach to the illegal immigrants tio stay in their own countries and if it does not it should start doing what it preaches and take all the illegal immigrants to the Vatican and keep them at its own expense.

Oliver Cini

Aug 23rd 2009, 00:45

If the Vatican feels that we should help more those lost souls then they should relief us from giving money to the Vatican every year. A year ago the Maltese gave 13mil to the Vatican they should leave the money here and maybe then we have some surplus of money to help some of this lost souls.

We Maltese never exploited other countries , No it's time for this rich wealthy Fat countries to pay back what they have done in the past years. But it's not our problem to solve we have bigger issues which are of national interests for us.

Eric rizzo

Aug 23rd 2009, 00:38

Is that what the Vatican have to offer? Helping some nations financially towards the ILLEGAL Immigrants' Hospitality makes more sense eh.

Keith D'Amato

Aug 23rd 2009, 00:27

"resulting not only from ignorance but selfishness and refusal to share what one has with others"

ignorance? These ILLEGAL immigrants are a threat to our society, Is it a crime to defend our own and country's interest??!!!

selfishness and refusal to share what one has with others - WHY dont you keep them in your mansions then ??

C.ZARB

Aug 23rd 2009, 00:26

One must not forget that the Vatican is one of the few places in the western world where illegal immigration is punishable with a prison sentence. Not even Lega Nord had ever proposed such drastic actions. In fact the controversial 'pachetto sicurezza' demands that illegal immigrants are fined and not sent into prison.

No wonder why the Vatican is one of the very few nations in Europe with no illegal immigration problems.

http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/politica/articoli/articolo458222.shtml

http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/SoleOnLine4/Italia/2009/07/maroni-reato-clandestinita-vaticano.shtml?uuid=9b240628-786e-11de-853c-ca5864ba1e3c&DocRulesView=Libero

Kenneth Galea

Aug 22nd 2009, 23:53

First of all the Vatican should set an example on us all and start hosting illegal immigrants at their luxurious convents and churches. We can only follow in the Vatican's footsteps once they take the lead. Also according to the AFM the tragedy of the so called Eritrean immigrants was another fairy tale. The Vatican is heavily influenced by the UNHCR which is the root of the problem. Once the UNHCR starts assuming responsibility of these illegals then there is a glimmer of hope. But the UNHCR is on a mission to destroy the national interest and traditional values of the recipient countries.

Joe Fenech

Aug 22nd 2009, 23:51

As Bossi told the Church:

"Why doesn't the Vatican take them?" I

t is a state in its own right? Or don't they like to mix with Africans?

http://www.corriere.it/cronache/09_agosto_22/strage_clandestini_canale_sicilia_ipotesi_omicidio_colposo_0eb597ec-8f02-11de-b751-00144f02aabc.shtml